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Chuck & Buck 3-10 Hour 3: It's our Tamperfest Specialty show with with Mike Sando! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning to you. Happy Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you Chucking Buck
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Speaker 2: in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
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Speaker 2: We roll into our third hour here on a Tuesday,
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Speaker 2: the second day of tampering and the National Football League, Yes,
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Speaker 2: Tampafest twenty twenty six going down. In my goodness, was
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Speaker 2: there a record setting amount of tampering yesterday. All sorts
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Speaker 2: of signings and so much to have to discuss to
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Speaker 2: deal with. We had to bring in reinforcements outside help,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of a hitman of NFL acquisitions, and
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Speaker 2: we will. It is our NFL insider from the athletic
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Speaker 2: We've got him for the next two hours on our
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Speaker 2: first ever specialty tampering show, Mike Sando.
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Speaker 1: And studio with us. How are you man? Oh, great
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Speaker 1: to be here, Great to see you guys in person.
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Speaker 1: Then and it's we did it recently at the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl too. Yeah, so this is great. Yeah, thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, we'll be uh, you know, invited
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Speaker 2: up to Bucky's house for barbecue and fishing sounds good.
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Speaker 1: And wood chopping yeah, yeah, you got to chop some wood.
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Speaker 3: But then I'll repay you with meat, meat of your
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Speaker 3: choice and whiskey.
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Speaker 1: That sounds great, that sounds yeah. Sorry I didn't. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how many meat grilling searing devices I have
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Speaker 1: on my deck, but I think it's one, at least three,
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Speaker 1: at least three there, so big meat seer are Oh yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: lots of stuff going on there. Okay, well maybe we
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Speaker 1: go to your patios.
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Speaker 4: God.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have just fire and blackstone. I
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Speaker 3: do have a smoker.
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Speaker 1: I got the blackstone, yeah, and then the trigger smoker
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Speaker 1: and then the you know, the the the charcoal grill.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, what's every time we talk food, you always
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Speaker 2: bring up how missus Sando makes this amazing dish in
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Speaker 2: the blank.
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Speaker 1: So I was driving in today, You're like, yeah, I said,
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Speaker 1: I wish we could have some bagels brought, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, geese. Just recently my wife made bagels. They're great.
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Speaker 1: Just the bagel, mate, They're really good. Yeah, you can
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Speaker 1: have you know, you can get some cheese ones. I
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Speaker 1: actually sprinkled the cheese on there. You know, that's your contribution,
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Speaker 1: that's my contribution. She made the actual bagels and you
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Speaker 1: sprinkled the cheese. Well, this is this is going to
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Speaker 1: be into your theme with you guys talking about a hole.
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Speaker 1: I actually made the holes on the bagels too. Oh
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Speaker 1: so you got to put your you put your fingers
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Speaker 1: down in the middle of spinning around like you're spinning
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Speaker 1: a frisbee around on your finger. I'm not very good.
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Speaker 1: I had some misshaping ones. But the holes were garbage.
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Speaker 1: Holes were garbage, definitely holes garbage. Yeah, yeah, save the
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Speaker 1: But I actually found that if I, you know, if
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Speaker 1: you if you ran your finger into the cold water
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Speaker 1: in the in the sink, then I could each one
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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't stick on there. And I actually made
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Speaker 1: good strategy. Good holes in the bagels, good holemaker, good
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Speaker 1: hole maker, improved hole maker, homemaker, hole makers, coachable, coachable.
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Speaker 1: But those vegels, we give a bunch of them away
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Speaker 1: because to eat them, I mean, you know, it would
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Speaker 1: be a lot. It's it's a lot. It's probably not
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Speaker 1: good for you to eat a ton of bagels. But
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Speaker 1: just eat the holes. Yeah, those are really yeah, those
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Speaker 1: are really nutricious. Friend, tell me what you're looking for
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Speaker 1: to bring in, and I'll see what kind of strings
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Speaker 1: I can pull.
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Speaker 2: Last thing, and I'll just ask this of the group
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Speaker 2: and then we'll get into some football. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if my mom was the only person in the world
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Speaker 2: to do this, but she used to make like these
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Speaker 2: like ghetto donuts. She would get like those, you know,
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Speaker 2: Pillsbury biscuit things, and then she would pop a hole
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Speaker 2: in them, and then she would fry them, and she
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Speaker 2: do the holes, and then she would do the actual
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Speaker 2: donuts and then she would fry them, and then she
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Speaker 2: would roll them in like cinnamon and sugar, and they
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Speaker 2: were outstandus great standing. But I don't know if she
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Speaker 2: might have been the only mom in the world.
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Speaker 1: That did that. Have you ever read fried bread? Fried
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Speaker 1: bread's good. I not with the cinnamon and the sugar
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Speaker 1: in it, but fried bread is a thing really really
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Speaker 1: good and you dip it in honey.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just uh, I did, just toast and butter
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Speaker 3: and then sprink of sugar and cinnamon on it.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah that as a kid, yeah yeah, watching mom
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Speaker 1: wasn't watching the I don't remember really having cinnamon around.
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Speaker 1: But the sugar you put so much better on that thing.
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Speaker 1: And you'd be looking around and you just be pouring
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Speaker 1: spoonfuls so it'd be like a thing of sugar. It
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Speaker 1: was so good as Mom was wondering why I was
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Speaker 1: bouncing off the walls for the next hour. Yeah, really good.
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Speaker 1: I'll make the hold I'll make the holds, all right.
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Speaker 2: Well, uh, let's talk some NFL football. Actually, because Mike
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Speaker 2: Sander was not our Donut insider, he is our NFL
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Speaker 2: insider from the athletic So let's get it and let's
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Speaker 2: talk about the Seahawks here. As far as you can tell,
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Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of people little bit
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Speaker 2: worried about the donut hole created by the loss of
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Speaker 2: ken Walker. Yeah, your reaction to him leaving him signing
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Speaker 2: with Kansas City, give me your ken Walker break down here.
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Speaker 1: So like, to me, he doesn't just solve what the
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Speaker 1: chiefs issue is, which is more than just a player
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Speaker 1: running back. To me, it's it's valuing the run game.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully for them, this is going to make them
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Speaker 1: be under centered a little bit more and actually be
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Speaker 1: committed to a real run game. I think for the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks they're going to be that anyway, and so they
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Speaker 1: can find that a people to do that, I think
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Speaker 1: that they lose some explosiveness. That's the number one thing
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Speaker 1: I think that could be. You know, one reason you're
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Speaker 1: willing to go a little bit higher on Rashid Shaheed
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Speaker 1: is because you do need explosive plays in this league
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Speaker 1: to win, and especially win the way they want to play,
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Speaker 1: which is, you know, playing great defense, being really good
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Speaker 1: on special teams, and having an offense that conflects when
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Speaker 1: it needs to, but is going to run the ball
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Speaker 1: a lot, and you have to hit explosives. So I
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna miss him what he became the second
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Speaker 1: half of the year. But the valuation is the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: That value for really a second half of the season.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was just consistently the guy every year,
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Speaker 1: right or even during this last year, even during this
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Speaker 1: last year, And I think that, you know, it would
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Speaker 1: be a bit of a luxury with what the other
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Speaker 1: things they have to do on this team. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: like they're gonna pay js N, they're gonna pay Winterspoon,
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Speaker 1: and those guys are gonna probably get to the top
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Speaker 1: of the market, you know, certainly JSN is so yeah,
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Speaker 1: So I don't think you're really going, you know, that
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Speaker 1: high with you know, with the Kenneth Walker, just the
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Speaker 1: consistency that he didn't bring over the course of his
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Speaker 1: career here and so it would have been a luxury.
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Speaker 1: I think it's disciplined to let him go, even though
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Speaker 1: you don't you know who's on deck. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think they have an issue now. They need to find somebody,
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Speaker 1: and they probably will, so.
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Speaker 3: You think they'll try to go out and tackle this
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Speaker 3: problem with from multiple facets. I mean, try to go
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Speaker 3: get somebody to a three million dollar proven like some
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Speaker 3: sort of veteran or the draft, or yeah, a combination.
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Speaker 1: Of both of those things. I think that you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily you could see them in some cases,
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Speaker 1: maybe a trade. I know you guys talked about the
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Speaker 1: Miami back a little bit when I was driving in.
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Speaker 1: But you don't have a lot of picks, so maybe
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Speaker 1: you can manufacture picks and do something like that. I
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Speaker 1: would love that type of a move. You know, get
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Speaker 1: somebody who's a home run thread in there and maybe
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Speaker 1: just as good as Kenneth Walker, right, even if he's
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Speaker 1: not quite as young, or you maybe ideally rad or
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Speaker 1: have Kenneth Walker and keep it going. But I think
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Speaker 1: that type of a move would be really nice, and
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Speaker 1: it is something they can probably do. I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: the guys that have come off the board already.
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Speaker 2: Walker obviously, Bettien, Dobbins, gain Well, Dowdell Algier. I mean,
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Speaker 2: those guys have already come off the board. There's not
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Speaker 2: a lot left, like running back wise in free agency.
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Speaker 2: Are we at a stage in the National Football leagu
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Speaker 2: where we just teams just don't.
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Speaker 1: Worry about that that much.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to turn it into a running backs
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Speaker 2: or a dime a dozen conversation. But there doesn't seem
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Speaker 2: to be any panic over there in renting over Ken
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Speaker 2: Walker not being a Seahawk right now. No.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they knew they were gonna have
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Speaker 1: to make choices this off season, and that price was
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Speaker 1: going to be a little bit high, especially after the
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Speaker 1: way he finished and then it was the MVP of
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and all that. So I think if
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Speaker 1: they had signed him to what he got with the Chiefs,
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Speaker 1: we'd be saying, wow, you know that seems you're happy
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Speaker 1: to have him. But yeah, I don't know if that
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Speaker 1: would have been, you know, the best use of that
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Speaker 1: money when they've got these other things to do. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, when I look at what's available,
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Speaker 1: you know, you're not like Super excited.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, called Brian Robinson, I mean being a Niner
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Speaker 3: new offensive coordinators from there. I mean he's not an
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Speaker 3: outstanding but he's filled in Abrahmley. He's one of those
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Speaker 3: guys that a lot of people go, well, Kyle Shanahan
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Speaker 3: is just so great because even if if you have
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Speaker 3: an injury to McCaffrey, look at what he does with
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Speaker 3: you know, Brian Robinson.
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Speaker 1: And that's another reason why you don't probably pay for
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Speaker 1: that position in this offense. Right, there's a history of
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Speaker 1: being able to get good production, and so yeah, maybe
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Speaker 1: there's somebody they get who has, you know, some history
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Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, has a history with him
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Speaker 1: that could make sense. But whatever they do is probably
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Speaker 1: not going to be Wow, I think it's going to
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Speaker 1: be easier to find the Charbonnet fill in, Yeah, that
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Speaker 1: type of running back than it is, as you said,
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Speaker 1: the explosive abilities of Ken Walker, that's not easy to find.
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Speaker 1: Plus a guy with that kind of power, and that's
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Speaker 1: probably going to have to be found through the draft. Right.
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Speaker 1: I guess the Sharbonney's injury is the one made an
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Speaker 1: interesting factor here. You know that if they would have
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Speaker 1: done and paid, if they would have paid Kenneth Walker,
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Speaker 1: you'd be saying, well, it's because of that, right, they
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Speaker 1: needed to have something. That number just wasn't where they
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Speaker 1: were willing to go, and they obviously prioritized Rashi sha
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Speaker 1: Heat you know who they'd given up a couple of
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Speaker 1: picks for as well. That could come into your thinking, Well.
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Speaker 2: Let's transition to that, because certainly when the season ended,
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Speaker 2: the fall was well, we didn't just rent this guy, right,
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Speaker 2: we like him, We're going to keep him. And then
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden the figures started coming out about
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Speaker 2: what his value might be be and it was between
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Speaker 2: fourteen and eighteen million dollars. And I think we, certainly
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Speaker 2: on this show, including all of our insiders, were like,
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Speaker 2: no way, not for a punt returner who wasn't all
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Speaker 2: that active in the passing game. And yet they end
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Speaker 2: up paying him seventeen million dollars. Do you think he's
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Speaker 2: worth that or do you think that is a reaction
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Speaker 2: to losing Walker. We can't lose them both. We can't
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Speaker 2: lose that much explosion from our offense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, as whether he's worth it or not, I
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Speaker 1: think we are coming to grips. There's like a lag
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Speaker 1: in our minds over what these numbers are because the
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Speaker 1: cap just keeps going up so much, and so I
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Speaker 1: can remember not that long ago, you know, the top
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Speaker 1: receiver could be sixteen million a year, right, and so
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Speaker 1: it is a sixteen million dollar receiver, now what the
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Speaker 1: eight million dollar receiver was, because you're gonna be forty
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Speaker 1: at the top of the market, so you're getting somebody
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Speaker 1: at less and half the top of the market. I
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Speaker 1: think we need to think of it a little bit
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Speaker 1: that way with these guys, and I'm going to do
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Speaker 1: that as we as the dust settles on this. I
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Speaker 1: think we just need to, you know, take a look
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Speaker 1: at the whole picture in terms of, hey, just as
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Speaker 1: simple as this, what's the average salary divided by the
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Speaker 1: cap limit for the teams? Right? That is a that
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Speaker 1: is sort of a way to look at these deals
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Speaker 1: to see that maybe seventeen million is what we used
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Speaker 1: to think twelve million was or ten million was, that
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Speaker 1: really could be where we're at. And I think also,
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Speaker 1: you know, special traits. I think when you're going to
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Speaker 1: pay a little bit more, you want to have special traits.
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Speaker 1: And you know Kenneth Walker has some, but is it
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Speaker 1: a running back position that probably you know, that's not
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Speaker 1: where you're going to generally philosophically want to do it
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Speaker 1: unless he's just an amazing three downlock back game changer.
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey right, that's a different type of a player, and
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker's not that. But but what Shaheed brings to
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Speaker 1: two phases of your team I think goes beyond his statistics,
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Speaker 1: especially on offense. Obviously they're going to use him more now,
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Speaker 1: but there's a value to that. There's a value to that,
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Speaker 1: and I think they were still kind of figuring out
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Speaker 1: this last year how it all fit together.
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Speaker 3: How often do you when you see somebody join a
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Speaker 3: team mid season. I mean, he had impact more so
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Speaker 3: probably on special teams with some of his special traits
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Speaker 3: that you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: He had a couple of big plays.
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Speaker 3: There was a big reverse in that comeback win that
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Speaker 3: he had as well. So, but I mean, was what
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Speaker 3: you saw out of him offensively just kind of par
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Speaker 3: for the course, considering he just joined the team at
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Speaker 3: the deadline, And so you too are thinking there's the
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Speaker 3: ceiling as much higher.
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Speaker 1: What he could be as a receiver. I'm not convinced
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Speaker 1: that the ceilings can be much higher in terms of
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Speaker 1: a ton of production. I don't necessarily feel that. I
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Speaker 1: think he's a presence out there, and he could have
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Speaker 1: more production than he had last year, but I still
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Speaker 1: need to see it to believe it that there's a
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Speaker 1: lot more there in terms of his consistency play to
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Speaker 1: play as a wide receiver. I do think he brings
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Speaker 1: a threat though, just being out there. You just got
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Speaker 1: to use him enough, right, You got to throw it
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Speaker 1: to him enough to keep the defenses honest.
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Speaker 2: Mike Sander is with us, our NFL Insider. He's here
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Speaker 2: in studio with us for two hours. This is our
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Speaker 2: first segment with him. So you've joined our radio program
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Speaker 2: at a really good time if you were wanting to
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Speaker 2: get your Mike Sando fill today, because we're just getting
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Speaker 2: started with him here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings,
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Speaker 2: and we're kind of locked in in this first segment.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to some things around the league later on
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Speaker 2: in the show, but kind of locked in on this
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Speaker 2: first segment with how the Seahawks were impacted by day
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Speaker 2: number one of the tampering period. They also lost Kobe
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Speaker 2: Bryant and he got paid top of the market safety money.
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Speaker 2: I think you heard my analysis from a little bit
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Speaker 2: earlier in the show. I really thought they liked Kobe
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Speaker 2: Bryant more than any other team was going to like
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Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant.
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Speaker 1: But when we play this.
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Speaker 2: Game of finance, yep, I'm not sure we should be
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Speaker 2: surprised that Mike McDonald and John schneiderre considering how good
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Speaker 2: they seem to be at finding the defensive backs and
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Speaker 2: then McDonald coaching up defensive backs, that they're not going
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Speaker 2: to pay top market for anybody out there.
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Speaker 1: Well, they're going to pay top dollar for the weather.
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Speaker 1: Those types of guys the really different difference makers talent wise.
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Speaker 1: But I think you're right and Worri when the time comes.
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Speaker 1: I just was so impressed with their ability to develop
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Speaker 1: players last year. I think that is a huge part
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Speaker 1: of this decision making process with a player like that
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Speaker 1: who's a good player but not a great player, and
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Speaker 1: so almost all of the players that they've had in
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Speaker 1: their system have gotten better. And you mentioned Tyakotta. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he looked like he was in over his head when
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Speaker 1: he first got there, and then by the end of
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Speaker 1: the year he's they change the defense when he's out there.
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Speaker 1: He can't do some of the things that that utters
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Speaker 1: could do, but they can still win and they can
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Speaker 1: still be good. So I think we're going to see
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Speaker 1: more of that, just the meshing between the front office
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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff to get the most out of
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Speaker 1: the guys they have there and see who the next
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Speaker 1: Kobe Ryan is.
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Speaker 3: So Nick even wore even though he drives often as
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Speaker 3: a safety, he didn't. He played more like the linebacker,
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Speaker 3: So you wouldn't think he would be one that would
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Speaker 3: be thrust into that opening at safety. It's going to
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Speaker 3: be more Ocata at this point.
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Speaker 1: I would think. So I think he's I think em
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Speaker 1: and Worry's probably at his best, you know, near the
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and he can just do so many
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Speaker 1: different things. But he's playing the position of Emon Worri
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Speaker 1: this upcoming year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly starting at and
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Speaker 1: I can't think exactly what it is. I can't. You know,
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Speaker 1: we forget that he missed it. You know. It's a
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Speaker 1: rookie last year, and he missed some of the start
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Speaker 1: of the season, but he was by far the guy
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Speaker 1: they were most excited about of the kind of unknown
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Speaker 1: players coming into camp, and you couldn't go to practice
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Speaker 1: without see him standing next to Jeff Howard there, you know,
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Speaker 1: coaching position and uh just being a huge part of it.
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Speaker 1: So I think that we're going to see him hit
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Speaker 1: the ground running in it, even in probably another dimension
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Speaker 1: to to how good he is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to clarify, I do think they will
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Speaker 2: spend top of the money on Witherspoon and when the
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Speaker 2: day comes, em and worry. But yeah, spending great money
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Speaker 2: on great players, that's one thing. Spending great money on
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Speaker 2: good players, that's where I think people get in trouble,
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Speaker 2: including the quarterback position. I think Miami's facing that, I
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Speaker 2: think Arizona's facing that you paid great money to maybe
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Speaker 2: not even good quarterbacks and look where you are right now.
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Speaker 1: And you know what happens is the ones you mentioned
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Speaker 1: were all paid by the teams that drafted a number
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Speaker 1: one or number five or whatever high in the draft,
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Speaker 1: and they it's like they just have to justify their
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Speaker 1: decision a second time, and so they give them the
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Speaker 1: top of the market. Look at the guys who changed teams.
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold or whatever. Sam Donald's better than Tua. You've
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Speaker 1: better have Sam Donald than Tua. Or Baker Mayfield's better,
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Speaker 1: right than some of these guys, but Sam and Baker
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Speaker 1: aren't at the top of the market even though they're
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Speaker 1: better players, because they weren't drafted by the hometown team
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Speaker 1: that they're on. And so that's just a huge mistake
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Speaker 1: that I think Trevor Lawrence, maybe they get away with it,
16:57
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe not.
16:59
Speaker 2: Let me slip in before we're done with our first segment.
17:01
Speaker 2: Just to close out the Seahawks day yesterday, he goes
17:04
Speaker 2: to the Cincinnati Bengals. I see the talent there, but
17:09
Speaker 2: does it not strike you as strange that the Bengals
17:11
Speaker 2: fought Trey Hendrickson for every single dollar a more proven
17:14
Speaker 2: pass rusher and then kind of just handed boy Mafe
17:18
Speaker 2: twenty million a year.
17:19
Speaker 1: Yes it does. But I'll tell you this, Trey Hendrickson
17:22
Speaker 1: wears out the teams that he's on in terms of
17:24
Speaker 1: always wanting more money. He's never had this contract. That
17:26
Speaker 1: was the reputation of New Orleans, reputation obviously with the Bengals,
17:30
Speaker 1: and he's going to win that battle with the Bengals
17:31
Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion because the Bengals have
17:33
Speaker 1: their own reputation in terms of spending. But I think
17:37
Speaker 1: that that's a factor with Trey Hendrickson, and that was
17:41
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that he didn't stay in New
17:43
Speaker 1: Orleans as well. So for whatever reason, he's known as
17:46
Speaker 1: we know, whatever his deal is not being super happy
17:49
Speaker 1: with it, and so I think they were probably happy
17:51
Speaker 1: to move on from that conversation, just never having him
17:55
Speaker 1: be happy, you know. And he's also getting up there,
17:58
Speaker 1: yeah a little bits well match money.
18:00
Speaker 2: As much as the activity there was yesterday, and he's
18:03
Speaker 2: still unsigned. Guy can't get signed for the money he
18:05
Speaker 2: thinks he's worth, That's right, Yeah, And I think everybody
18:08
Speaker 2: knows too. You know that even after you signed him,
18:10
Speaker 2: he may want more after that. So we'll see what
18:14
Speaker 2: happens with him. But the MAFE money is, it's a
18:17
Speaker 2: lot of money, but.
18:17
Speaker 1: Good for him. It kind of this is sort of
18:21
Speaker 1: I look at his signing is more from the player's
18:24
Speaker 1: standpoint of, Hey, you got your super Bowl ring and
18:27
Speaker 1: now go take care of what hit the top dollar you.
18:29
Speaker 1: I don't blame him, I'd all blame him at all.
18:31
Speaker 1: I think it's a great move for him, and you know,
18:34
Speaker 1: as far as the angles, I don't know if it
18:37
Speaker 1: says I if it's as great of a move, but
18:39
Speaker 1: you got to spend your money on somebody, and I'm
18:41
Speaker 1: sure they had a slot there for Hendrickson in that position.
18:44
Speaker 1: They may have more left over.
18:45
Speaker 2: Even Mike Sando is with us, our NFL insider. He's
18:48
Speaker 2: going to be with us for two hours, going to
18:50
Speaker 2: have all sorts of ways to break down what we've
18:52
Speaker 2: seen so far in the tampering period. We'll preview a
18:55
Speaker 2: little bit of what's left out there. But coming up next,
18:58
Speaker 2: I do want to get to Mike's the uh and
19:01
Speaker 2: all of our thoughts really on what happened with the
19:03
Speaker 2: NFC West yesterday. Did the Rams and forty nine ers
19:08
Speaker 2: get better while the Seahawks were just fighting to keep
19:11
Speaker 2: their own We'll discuss at Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 2: three kha RFM.
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Speaker 1: Alright, Chuck a Buck and Ashley with you. It is
19:29
Speaker 1: Chuck a Buck in the morning.
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Speaker 2: So we are doing a specialty tampering show here today,
19:33
Speaker 2: just feeding into the NFL free agency frenzy.
19:37
Speaker 1: On the radio programs.
19:38
Speaker 2: We brought in our NFL insider, Mike Sando. We're gonna
19:41
Speaker 2: have them on for a couple of hours. You know
19:42
Speaker 2: where Mike Sander would love to go to Lalabersort casino.
19:46
Speaker 2: Bet he'd love to go.
19:47
Speaker 4: I'd love to have him. Yeah, I guarantee that. Yeah,
19:49
Speaker 4: that big wad of money's got yeah exactly. But then
19:53
Speaker 4: he'd he'd take their money because he knows so much
19:55
Speaker 4: about the NFL. He'd make some great bets. We've got
19:58
Speaker 4: a lot of money. It's like forty.
20:01
Speaker 1: Dollars a couple for making it rain in here, Ashley jealous,
20:06
Speaker 1: just like that. They're all take care of it. They
20:09
Speaker 1: want your money. Wad to like have a thud too,
20:13
Speaker 1: that I actually forgot this was I forgot I had that. Wow,
20:18
Speaker 1: it really wasn't that kind of cake. You just forget.
20:21
Speaker 1: You got to get the money in your pocket. That's
20:23
Speaker 1: what rich people say, Oh my god, I forgot I
20:25
Speaker 1: had this much money in my pocket. You roll it up.
20:28
Speaker 1: It's a running joke in the family because when I've
20:32
Speaker 1: been buried a long time, but when my wife and
20:34
Speaker 1: I were first together, of course I have, you know,
20:37
Speaker 1: abandoned her to go on some road trip or something.
20:39
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to go through his laundry, you know,
20:41
Speaker 1: because needed a lot of help. You know, she found
20:44
Speaker 1: like the same denomination of change, and like all of
20:47
Speaker 1: my pants, like seven dollars in some sense of change
20:50
Speaker 1: the same amount, and it was it was like one
20:51
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, uh, you know, in all of these pants
20:55
Speaker 1: and you know whatever. She didn't think too much of it,
20:58
Speaker 1: crazy until she went through the Wendy's Drive with me
21:01
Speaker 1: and realized that that was the exact amount of change
21:04
Speaker 1: I got when I just twenty from a twenty I
21:06
Speaker 1: got because I got like the two Chicken Club sandwiches,
21:09
Speaker 1: I got the baked potato and the small frosty, and
21:13
Speaker 1: it came out to this exact amount of change left
21:15
Speaker 1: in my pockets. Uh, And that she still stayed with me.
21:20
Speaker 1: That was basically I had no food in my fridge,
21:23
Speaker 1: nothing that I had like two towels, one of them
21:25
Speaker 1: I used to change the oil with on my car.
21:27
Speaker 1: I used to change the oil in the car. You know,
21:29
Speaker 1: at least you did that, did that? Yeah, but uh yeah,
21:32
Speaker 1: that's what I just hit that Windy's drive through there
21:34
Speaker 1: and uh in Kirkland when I was covering the seaux
21:37
Speaker 1: up there there you go.
21:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, A man of simple tastes like you
21:41
Speaker 2: got three Wendy's mets right there.
21:45
Speaker 1: A long time. But that was the line.
21:46
Speaker 2: You don't have to now that you get homemade bagels,
21:48
Speaker 2: all right, exactly. And I don't know, I don't know
21:50
Speaker 2: if we send you up to Tilelup. I don't know
21:52
Speaker 2: if they have a Wendy's on campus. And I don't
21:55
Speaker 2: think you can make your own bagels there. So just
21:58
Speaker 2: go ahead and eat at the fine restaurant, I said,
22:00
Speaker 2: Taleila Brazort Casino.
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Speaker 1: And let's call it a day. Yeah, Mike Sando is
22:04
Speaker 1: with us, our NFL insider.
22:05
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the NFC West, familiar ground for you,
22:09
Speaker 2: the NFC West and what they've done here thus far
22:13
Speaker 2: in the off season, because I think that there are
22:15
Speaker 2: some people that want the champion to fall. I mean,
22:17
Speaker 2: there's always you win a championship in the whole country,
22:20
Speaker 2: then wants to tear you apart.
22:21
Speaker 1: Oh look, Oh the Seahawks are losing free agents? Is
22:25
Speaker 1: he the mighty have to fall?
22:27
Speaker 2: And so it looks like on paper, because the forty
22:30
Speaker 2: nine ers sign of Mike Evans, and because the Rams
22:33
Speaker 2: make two significant moves a trade for McDuffie and the
22:37
Speaker 2: signing of Jalen Watson, it kind of looks like they
22:40
Speaker 2: got better and the Seahawks have only lost. Yeah, here
22:42
Speaker 2: so far in the free agency. Let's start with the Rams.
22:45
Speaker 2: Your evaluation of what they've.
22:47
Speaker 1: Done thus far. It's true, though, I mean that they're
22:49
Speaker 1: the hunted team, and I think this year the biggest
22:53
Speaker 1: theme of this freegency is teams like the Rams, the
22:55
Speaker 1: teams that felt like they should have won the Super
22:58
Speaker 1: Bowl right last year, in particular with the chief not
23:00
Speaker 1: being you know in it. You look what the Ravens did, right,
23:03
Speaker 1: Look what these teams did. Buffalo even you know, made
23:06
Speaker 1: a kind of an unusual move in the Rams. This
23:08
Speaker 1: is part for the course for them. I think they're
23:10
Speaker 1: always pushing, but you know, you could say it's an
23:14
Speaker 1: overreaction that they've kind of been overreacting to everything. Right,
23:18
Speaker 1: the two point play they're still talking about against Seattle,
23:21
Speaker 1: and they almost feel like they probably should have won,
23:24
Speaker 1: you know, to at least two, maybe all three of
23:26
Speaker 1: the games last year, you know, against Seattle. But they're better, so,
23:32
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're clearly feeling like they've got
23:35
Speaker 1: another year probably with Matt Stafford. Let's just put all
23:38
Speaker 1: the chips on the table. They've been a nimble team
23:41
Speaker 1: that way. Sometimes they're cheap and don't pay anybody, and
23:43
Speaker 1: the other times they go all in, so I think
23:45
Speaker 1: it's clear what they're doing. They had a huge problem
23:48
Speaker 1: in the secondary, a huge problem. They still will have
23:51
Speaker 1: issues on special teams that was that's been a problem
23:53
Speaker 1: and still will be. But their their secondary was the
23:56
Speaker 1: number one offense or defense issue they had and it's
23:59
Speaker 1: been address. I think they're better. They're better than they were,
24:03
Speaker 1: or better than the Seahawks. Right, well, they may be
24:07
Speaker 1: better than the Seahawks. I mean, they were close last year,
24:09
Speaker 1: but you still got to win the games, and you
24:12
Speaker 1: know they didn't win two of them last year, and
24:14
Speaker 1: that Seattle could easily win him again this next year.
24:16
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a I think it's close. Yeah,
24:19
Speaker 1: I think it's I think the teams are close. Yeah.
24:21
Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them can have an
24:23
Speaker 3: offseason that's going to make it to where it's not
24:25
Speaker 3: close coming into the year. I mean, San Fran goes
24:28
Speaker 3: out and gets Mike Evans' first season had a twelve
24:31
Speaker 3: that he didn't go over a thousand yards because of
24:33
Speaker 3: all the injuries. I mean, is there a lot left
24:36
Speaker 3: in the tank for the Niner fans to be super
24:38
Speaker 3: pumped about what he's going to do you know, I.
24:39
Speaker 1: Don't love the age thirty three receiver signing coming off
24:43
Speaker 1: a three hundred and sixty eight yard year on a
24:48
Speaker 1: team that's got a bunch of guys that you're worried
24:50
Speaker 1: about staying healthy. So you got Christian McCaffrey, who led
24:53
Speaker 1: the league in touches last year for the third time
24:56
Speaker 1: in his career. The last two times he led the
24:58
Speaker 1: league in touches, he got hurt the next year. So
25:00
Speaker 1: are we really thinking that they're going to get seventeen
25:02
Speaker 1: games of him this next year? I don't feel that
25:06
Speaker 1: is going to happen. Trent Williams very near the end
25:09
Speaker 1: left tackle, a huge part of their offensive plane. Still good.
25:12
Speaker 1: But to me, yes, on paper, Mike Evans, you love
25:17
Speaker 1: to have him on your team. I think he's a
25:19
Speaker 1: great guy. I think he's going to help them. But
25:23
Speaker 1: I mean the Bucks are probably the ones moving on from.
25:26
Speaker 2: At the right time, even if it's a year early.
25:29
Speaker 2: Grant Cone does some stuff follows the forty nine ers.
25:33
Speaker 2: He said yesterday on Softy and Dick that there is
25:37
Speaker 2: a chasm of difference between the Seahawks and the forty
25:41
Speaker 2: nine ers right now and certainly when they played their
25:44
Speaker 2: last two games. That was a chasmic difference. So, I mean,
25:50
Speaker 2: Mike Evans I like. I like him as a player,
25:53
Speaker 2: I like his career. But I was hearing some stuff
25:56
Speaker 2: last night from Kevin Clark of ESPN sickly saying that
26:00
Speaker 2: that was the best free agent signing of the entire
26:03
Speaker 2: day and that they're going to set records with how
26:06
Speaker 2: they're going to use him in the red zone. I'm like, well,
26:09
Speaker 2: kind of sounds to me like you're saying he's going
26:11
Speaker 2: to be DeVante Adams at the forty nine ers and
26:13
Speaker 2: he's going to catch a lot of one yard touchdown passes.
26:16
Speaker 1: But is he really going to impact the entire game? Though?
26:19
Speaker 1: I think they want to really change that wide receiver
26:22
Speaker 1: group that they've had. I mean, it's that Brandon Ayuch stuff.
26:25
Speaker 1: They just had a bad taste in their mouth to
26:26
Speaker 1: think at that position. So Mike Evans comes in as
26:28
Speaker 1: a great troop rod. He may be there, you know,
26:31
Speaker 1: think of Seattle signing Cooper Cup. When Seattle signed Cooper Cup,
26:33
Speaker 1: I was like, eh, and it's I think the Rams
26:37
Speaker 1: have been kind kind of trying to offload him, you know,
26:40
Speaker 1: definitely on the back nine of his career but ended
26:44
Speaker 1: up being a really great uh. I think presence on
26:47
Speaker 1: their team, even though I don't think they needed him
26:49
Speaker 1: as much as the forty nine ers need a Mike
26:51
Speaker 1: Evans because I think Jays sends a great pro you know,
26:54
Speaker 1: I think Seattle's receivers were going to be okay. Uh,
26:57
Speaker 1: But so to me, Mike Evans has more left than
27:01
Speaker 1: Cooper cup did, helps them more and serves a better
27:04
Speaker 1: purpose for their just to me, the professionalism of that group.
27:09
Speaker 1: So I think it's a good I think it is
27:10
Speaker 1: a good signing it for them if they feel like, hey,
27:15
Speaker 1: we're gonna give this one more go, right, And I
27:17
Speaker 1: think we've been kind of waiting for them to say, well,
27:18
Speaker 1: we've got to reset a little bit here. But you know,
27:21
Speaker 1: they're coming off of a really good year by Christian McCaffrey,
27:24
Speaker 1: even though his efficiency wasn't great because he was having
27:27
Speaker 1: to carry everything. But I think they're just feeling like
27:29
Speaker 1: they've got another year to try this and let's be
27:31
Speaker 1: a little bit healthier and here we go. But you're
27:34
Speaker 1: signing a guy who missed nine games last year too
27:36
Speaker 1: and is going to be thirty three. I am wondering,
27:40
Speaker 1: though your perspective on it.
27:41
Speaker 3: I mean, how the difference between the two teams, especially
27:44
Speaker 3: the last two times they played the Seahawks and Niners
27:46
Speaker 3: was was very noticeable. But I mean how much of
27:49
Speaker 3: that was because of health? I mean it's age two.
27:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, it's just the trajectories of the team.
27:54
Speaker 1: I think Seattle is on the upswing with a mostly
27:57
Speaker 1: younger group that's hungry and ready to go, ready to play. Well,
28:04
Speaker 1: they'd play Monday, Wednesday and Friday, you know, and b game.
28:07
Speaker 1: I feel like the forty Niners are kind of like,
28:09
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we could use an extra buy. You know,
28:13
Speaker 1: we're banged up and old, and we're on the we're
28:16
Speaker 1: on the back end of this with a lot of
28:17
Speaker 1: our best players. How long is it going to last?
28:21
Speaker 1: And to me, those are two different places to be.
28:24
Speaker 1: So fort nine ers may, you know, squeezing at a
28:26
Speaker 1: year out of this group, but I don't know that.
28:29
Speaker 1: To me, they're betting on a lot of guys that
28:33
Speaker 1: get up slowly after they get hit. And that's Kittle too,
28:36
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and he's coming off of a
28:38
Speaker 1: major injury. So I'm look, that may be another reason
28:44
Speaker 1: why they want somebody like Mike Evans, but you know
28:47
Speaker 1: he did miss nine games last year. A little Hail Mary,
28:49
Speaker 1: a little bit, little bit more age to an old,
28:53
Speaker 1: broken down team at this stage, I mean, still put
28:56
Speaker 1: up a lot of wins last year. Your thoughts on
28:58
Speaker 1: Arizona talking about a mess, they just seem like a
29:00
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they even have an identity.
29:02
Speaker 1: I mean the two signings they made, two signings in
29:04
Speaker 1: a week, James Connor and Tyler Aljear. I looked up
29:07
Speaker 1: their birth certificates, same person. They're the exact same person.
29:12
Speaker 1: Just been going by different names here the last couple
29:14
Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, they're in like the fifth year of
29:17
Speaker 1: a first year rebuild. It feels like, are they better
29:19
Speaker 1: than I don't know, are they better than they were
29:23
Speaker 1: when the general manager who's there now took over?
29:26
Speaker 2: You know, I.
29:28
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not. I mean, you're finding out.
29:31
Speaker 2: Falling off the wall, don't have a quarterback, don't have
29:35
Speaker 2: an identity, I don't know what the And for a
29:38
Speaker 2: while there looked like they were moving in the right direction.
29:41
Speaker 2: But man, there's just two steps back each of the last.
29:44
Speaker 1: Three years, and even last year when they finally said okay,
29:47
Speaker 1: we're not going to play a kind of murday, then
29:48
Speaker 1: they still couln't win a game. So yeah, they're gonna
29:52
Speaker 1: have to really, you know, I think one thing about
29:55
Speaker 1: them last year was they were super injured. They ran
29:57
Speaker 1: out of players. I think they had you know, you
29:59
Speaker 1: don't even people don't even really realize this, but like
30:02
Speaker 1: during the season, there's a ninety man roster limit during
30:04
Speaker 1: the season, which counts to your practice squad and your
30:09
Speaker 1: fifty three and your injuries. And I think they ran
30:11
Speaker 1: out of guys. They ran out of spots because they
30:13
Speaker 1: had so many guys hurt, so many guys hurt. So
30:17
Speaker 1: you know they're going to be healthier and better and
30:18
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a tougher out probably, but
30:20
Speaker 1: the direction, like what are they doing, where are they
30:22
Speaker 1: going to me is not clear? And it's the frenzy.
30:27
Speaker 2: It was fanatic yesterday. There was so much activity yesterday
30:31
Speaker 2: that it seems to have cooled down a little bit
30:33
Speaker 2: here overnight and into this morning. And yet we'll check
30:38
Speaker 2: for the latest and then of course we got a
30:40
Speaker 2: lot more things to discuss with Mike Sando Seahawks related
30:43
Speaker 2: league wide related will continue the conversation next on Sports
30:47
Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Mike Sando, it's with
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Speaker 2: us today. It's our special Tampering show. Never done one
31:04
Speaker 2: of these before. Mike's joined us for two hours here
31:07
Speaker 2: from eight to ten o'clock, our NFL in insider from
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Speaker 2: the Athletic right here in studio, talking.
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Speaker 1: All things NFL today.
31:15
Speaker 2: After that monstrous day of signings on day number one
31:18
Speaker 2: of the tampering period, we've started day number two. Not
31:22
Speaker 2: much activity out there to this point, but certainly a
31:26
Speaker 2: lot of free agents left on the market and a
31:28
Speaker 2: lot of work to do by a lot of NFL teams.
31:31
Speaker 2: But if there was one team that made the most
31:34
Speaker 2: moves yesterday, it was the Las Vegas Raiders.
31:37
Speaker 1: They set a.
31:38
Speaker 2: Record Mike Tyler Lindebaum highest contract ever for a center,
31:43
Speaker 2: Nikobe Dean linebacker, Kway Walker, linebacker, Malcolm Koontz, defensive end
31:50
Speaker 2: Quitty Pay former first round pick defensive end Eric Stokes,
31:54
Speaker 2: a cornerback, Jalen Naylor, a wide receiver, Matt Gay a kicker.
31:58
Speaker 2: Plus in the last week, they've traded Max Crosby and
32:01
Speaker 2: released Geno Smith as their quarterback. I don't think it's
32:06
Speaker 2: the way to go about winning in the National Football League.
32:08
Speaker 2: To be this active in a week, I don't think
32:11
Speaker 2: things turn around that magically. But the Patriots were a
32:15
Speaker 2: four win team a year ago. They spent the most
32:18
Speaker 2: money in free agency and ended up in the Super Bowl.
32:21
Speaker 1: So how much better or worse did the Raiders make themselves?
32:24
Speaker 2: Not?
32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the way. It's a component to improve
32:26
Speaker 1: your team. But you say this a little bit with
32:29
Speaker 1: Tennessee too, when you're just really bad. You need players
32:32
Speaker 1: when you're really really bad. And so they're obviously in
32:34
Speaker 1: a reset. They traded Max Crosby, who's a you know,
32:37
Speaker 1: a great worker and was ticked off when they were
32:41
Speaker 1: trying to kind of tank at the end of last
32:43
Speaker 1: year to set him down, and so he got out
32:45
Speaker 1: of there. And to me, the Linderbaum signing is most
32:49
Speaker 1: interesting because they're expected to probably take a quarterback. Maybe
32:53
Speaker 1: it's windows at the top of the draft. You get
32:55
Speaker 1: a center to settle things down up front. I think
32:58
Speaker 1: that's been their number one issues. So the fifty percent
33:02
Speaker 1: premium on the ap y, yikes, you know, you don't
33:05
Speaker 1: never like to see that. But to me, getting a
33:09
Speaker 1: really good center and someone you might plug in for
33:11
Speaker 1: the years to come is a solid move for them
33:15
Speaker 1: and just settling down the line, and I think it'd
33:17
Speaker 1: be very helpful for a quarterback, especially a young quarterback,
33:19
Speaker 1: to have a veteran at that position who can just
33:22
Speaker 1: handle a lot of different things. So that move probably
33:25
Speaker 1: is somebody who should be there for a while and
33:27
Speaker 1: could be a building block for them. I think a
33:30
Speaker 1: lot of the other ones are just trying trying to
33:33
Speaker 1: fill in some depth and just trying to fill in
33:36
Speaker 1: some players on a roster that's super barren and get
33:39
Speaker 1: some guys that you know are going to have loyalties
33:41
Speaker 1: to the new staff. I mean, as somebody that does
33:45
Speaker 1: not like the Raiders. It seems very aggressive. But then
33:49
Speaker 1: you combine that with I think they have like eleven
33:51
Speaker 1: picks in this year's draft. I mean there's a chance
33:55
Speaker 1: that they could, maybe not this season, but in a
33:58
Speaker 1: couple of years span turned this thing from worse to
34:01
Speaker 1: competitive again. Wouldn't you think, yes, you could. Now they
34:05
Speaker 1: haven't been able to overcome the owner, And I think
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Speaker 1: that is a big his hair issue pick because of
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Speaker 1: his hair, Mark Davis that hair can never win A
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Speaker 1: loser hair loser hair. I mean, what would you do
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Speaker 1: to make it worse, like, is there anything can do?
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of remember the movie Kingpin. Remember Quaid
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Speaker 1: had the he was the amish guy. Yeah, yeah, he
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Speaker 1: had that. He had that hair similar Mark Davis' hair.
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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, Randy Quaid's hair looks like Victoria Principles
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Speaker 2: compared to Mark Mark Davis's hair. He looks to me,
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Speaker 2: Mark Davis looks like the potato that's been left too
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Speaker 2: long in a microwave.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that doesn't even have to do with his hair.
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Speaker 1: With a bad hair, it's hard to have to have
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Speaker 1: that hairdo. And then they show you sitting next to
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Speaker 1: a model basically at the games, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's really hard to overcome that visual on
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Speaker 1: your team. But but here's something I do like about
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. I mean, we know that, we know that
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Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak is all about football, no nonsense, and so nobs.
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Speaker 1: I think he's a solid football guy. I do think
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Speaker 1: John Spytech, their GM, is a solid football guy. Everything
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Speaker 1: heard about him and with Tom Brady, the one thing
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Speaker 1: I say about him is I do think he is
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Speaker 1: someone who improves at what he does. So obviously that
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Speaker 1: was his story as a player, but as a broadcaster
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Speaker 1: he sucked, you know when he first came out and
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Speaker 1: everybody said it, and then by this last year he's
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Speaker 1: pretty good at it. So to me, he is somebody
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Speaker 1: who works at things, and I don't know if he
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Speaker 1: can be you know, good whatever he's doing with the
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of alongside his buddy spy Tech the GM,
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Speaker 1: But I do think that he has ability to get
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Speaker 1: better at it too. So they could have some better,
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Speaker 1: you know, better just football guys on the same page.
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Speaker 1: Then maybe they've had. Yeah, even I think last year
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Speaker 1: was really screwed up with Pete with the staff, I do.
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Speaker 1: I think that was a weird blend of him making
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Speaker 1: him have different guys that he wouldn't have had on
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Speaker 1: his staff and it just never fits. So maybe they
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Speaker 1: get a little bit of a reset here and it's
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Speaker 1: just a little bit more coherent as a organization.
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Speaker 2: But just have a long way to go along those lines.
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Speaker 2: I brought this up in Reckless at Breakfast a couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago. If Tom Brady's making this call at quarterback,
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Speaker 2: I mean there are a little bit of rumblings that
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Speaker 2: maybe they're not entirely sold on Mendoza. I mean, based
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Speaker 2: on what they've done recently, it kind of feels like
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Speaker 2: they're sold on Mendoza and that's a foregone conclusion. But
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Speaker 2: would it be surprising. I mean, here's Tom Brady who's
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Speaker 2: wore this chip on his shoulder his entire career because
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Speaker 2: he was overlooked, And would it be all that surprising
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Speaker 2: if he's making this call that he doesn't want a
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Speaker 2: first overall quarterback told he wants.
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Speaker 1: Somebody like himself.
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Speaker 2: No, we're going to find a sixth rounder who's scrawny
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Speaker 2: and that will someday be deadly handsome, you know, as
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Speaker 2: he go to try to replicate himself, because a lot
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Speaker 2: of former players do that when they get in that role.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you wait till the sixth round,
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Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be unfathomable all if they like Ty
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Speaker 1: Simpson better. There are people in the league that do so.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Mendoza is so amazing as a prospect
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Speaker 1: that everyone for sure would take him number one overall.
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Speaker 1: I think, and even talking to people in the league,
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Speaker 1: which I did at the Combine for a piece I
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Speaker 1: did where every year I project the top ten before
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Speaker 1: free agency and you know, people put Mendoza in that slot,
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Speaker 1: but just kind of felt like, well it's kind of
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Speaker 1: accepted more than you know, more than he's uh, they've
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Speaker 1: given any indication. Yeah, Yeah, it doesn't feel like you
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Speaker 1: have to take him. Yeah right, it's like he's so
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Speaker 1: amazing you have to take him. Hey, there's a big
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Speaker 1: need there for the Raiders, and you could justify doing it.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Jets still having signed a quarterback in this
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Speaker 2: process and they're sending it two and the word is
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Speaker 2: they want him, they like to move up. So maybe
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Speaker 2: that's not a foregone conclusion.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I would. I would consider moving out of there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even think it's a foregone conclusion
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Speaker 2: that Tom Brady puts all this talent together.
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Speaker 1: Is like, I'm the best guy for the job. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be That's right, I'll be the quarterback guy,
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Speaker 1: all time quarterback. I've added more chips on my shoulder.
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Speaker 3: Rafts himself first, overall, no trades back to two, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: to pick up more and then draft himself.
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Speaker 1: He's actually broadcasting the game as well, his y headset
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Speaker 1: going up to the booth, so he's talking to him.
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Speaker 1: He's got his broadcast partner. He's just he's the flagship
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Speaker 1: called the flagship flagship at all.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, we got another hour with Mike Sando,
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Speaker 2: including his second time that he will ever be in
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Speaker 2: front of the old Judge.
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Speaker 1: That's coming up at nine point thirty.
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Speaker 2: But we'll talk more about free agency tampering the Seahawks
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Speaker 2: in our next segment at Sports Radio ninety three point
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