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Hour 1: Why you should get a dog · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Oh, what a day it was here yesterday on the
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  Speaker 1: floor of iHeartRadio, not just here at 710WR, your number
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  Speaker 1: one talk station in the nation, but also all of
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  Speaker 1: our FM brothers and sisters in solidarity because, Larry, the
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  Speaker 1: North Shore Animal League of America brought puppies in that
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  Speaker 1: they had rescued in South Carolina where they didn't do
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  Speaker 1: any neutering and spading, and boy, these poor puppies would
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  Speaker 1: have been... killed, but they do such a good job
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  Speaker 1: rescuing unwanted dogs all over the country and then finding
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  Speaker 1: a home of their own. And I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: you can actually see it posted. I was over at
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  Speaker 1: Classic Rock Q104. 3, normally with Jim Kerr in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: but Maria Malito, and she has her own podcast about
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  Speaker 1: animal welfare. She loves animals and you'll see She's holding
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  Speaker 1: one of these rescued puppies. I'm there. Oh, man, it
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  Speaker 1: was like Puppy Love, that song. What is that, Puppy Love? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Osmonds, I think that is.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a picture of Natalie with a puppy, and
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  Speaker 2: it looks like she's going to adopt a puppy. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure if her family knows this yet, but it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like that puppy's going home with you.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I was really taken by those puppies.
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  Speaker 4: They are having an event this weekend on Saturday in
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  Speaker 4: Port Washington called you might find me there.
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I've been there many times
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  Speaker 1: and there's no smell. The animals are happy. Like some
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  Speaker 1: shelters I've seen around the country, they're drugged up. So
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  Speaker 1: they're like sedated, not there. And boy, people get a
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  Speaker 1: choice of whether it's dogs, cats, or other animals. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm suggesting if you're, if you're looking for a new friend,
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  Speaker 1: furry friend, a furry friend, Just go to the North
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  Speaker 1: Shore Animal League. It's a great place to go to.
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  Speaker 1: And this is in league with a conversation we had
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  Speaker 1: with you yesterday. Let me say one last thing about
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  Speaker 1: that because I think this is important. Even if you
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  Speaker 1: are thinking about getting a dog, even if you say
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, well, I don't like dogs, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to go see the puppies. I will tell you, I
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  Speaker 1: learned something from Natalie. Natalie's never had a dog in
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  Speaker 1: her life. She held one of these puppies and now
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  Speaker 1: she's actually thinking about getting a dog. And so don't
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  Speaker 1: think to yourself, I'm not a dog person, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to go to this thing. Just if you're nearby,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead over there. You might find some love. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Natalie. You can handle it. Look, it's getting
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  Speaker 1: a puppy to train properly is a little difficult. Might
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  Speaker 1: keep you up the few hours that you get some
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  Speaker 1: sleep if they're yelping. But you can handle it, Natalie.
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  Speaker 1: You and your family. I think we can.
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  Speaker 4: We've always talked about maybe when we retire, where we
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  Speaker 4: could spend a lot of time with puppies.
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  Speaker 1: The dog.
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  Speaker 2: You only need to spend a whole lot of time
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  Speaker 2: when they're a puppy, I think. I think they're self-sufficient
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  Speaker 2: after they're a puppy.
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  Speaker 1: They get lonely.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody knows this, but dogs get depressed too.
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  Speaker 2: If you leave them alone for too long. But let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you a question.
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  Speaker 1: Retire? You ain't retiring. No, I'm not. You've been here
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  Speaker 1: with all three of the gamblers, the legacy. You've been
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  Speaker 1: with every talk show here on WOR, Joan Hamburg, Barry Gray,
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  Speaker 1: all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think she said she was. She said
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  Speaker 2: when I retire. That's what she said. Someday she's going
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  Speaker 2: to retire.
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  Speaker 1: Do it now.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he liked you. Oh, I do. But you
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  Speaker 1: should have seen it yesterday. She fell in love with
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  Speaker 1: this puppy. Come on. You don't want to break that
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  Speaker 1: puppy's heart. Natalie, that puppy looked at you like, please
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  Speaker 1: take me home. Please take me home. You should get one.
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  Speaker 2: Even for security alone. I will tell you, I did
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  Speaker 2: two stories called the burglars poll. where we went to
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  Speaker 2: prisons and we talked to people that were in prisons
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  Speaker 2: for burglary. And I did it in Chicago and I
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  Speaker 2: did it in Philadelphia. And the number one deterrent is
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  Speaker 2: a dog. More than security alarms, more than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Nosy neighbors are number two, by the way. But number
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  Speaker 2: one is a dog. So just think, you want to
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  Speaker 2: get a security alarm. You can have a dog. A
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  Speaker 2: dog is always going to bark and the burglars say,
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  Speaker 2: we just go. As soon as you hear a dog,
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  Speaker 2: we leave. Now, that sounds like a real dog guy.
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  Speaker 2: You've been a dog guy your whole life, right?
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  Speaker 1: I have been, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No cats. Take
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  Speaker 1: us through the transitions of the different dogs you've had.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we bought my grandmother lived in West Philly and
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  Speaker 2: the neighborhood started to turn. So we got her a
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  Speaker 2: dog that was vicious named Bing. And then she came
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  Speaker 2: to live with us. So Bing came to our house.
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  Speaker 2: The vicious dog was in our house for a while.
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  Speaker 2: But for some reason, the dog, I could tame the
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  Speaker 2: vicious dog because I was like three. And the dog
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  Speaker 2: would come up and growl at me, and I'd be
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  Speaker 2: ready for it, and I'd have toothpaste, and I'd rub
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  Speaker 2: it in his mouth. And he'd start sneezing and go away.
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  Speaker 2: So that was the first dog. Then we had another Bing.
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  Speaker 2: And then since then, I've had dogs, geez, everywhere I went,
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  Speaker 2: everywhere I went.
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  Speaker 1: I love having a dog.
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  Speaker 2: I love having a dog for a lot of reasons,
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  Speaker 2: not just companionship, but it's smart to have one. especially
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to be away from your apartment or
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  Speaker 2: your home because it is the best security system you
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  Speaker 2: can get.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure it was good as deer radar, keeping
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  Speaker 1: the deer away, right? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for saying that. I forgot all about that. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're definitely going to get a dog. I can promise
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  Speaker 2: you we will get a dog because I forgot all
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  Speaker 2: about that. When I tell Dawn, if we get a dog,
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  Speaker 2: there'll be no more deer in our yard.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get one tomorrow. But that was a result of
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  Speaker 1: having lost and continuing to mourn the last dog you had,
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  Speaker 1: which was Buddy. You've had a series of dogs called Buddy, right?
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  Speaker 1: Buddy 1, Buddy 2. What was this, based on the
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  Speaker 1: coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, Buddy Ryan?
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  Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan, no, no, no. The shame of it is
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  Speaker 2: I call my kids Buddy as a nickname, too. So
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  Speaker 2: nobody knows who I'm talking to all the time. But, no,
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  Speaker 2: we've had three German Shepherds. We had a purebred white
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  Speaker 2: German Shepherd. Then we had a police dog. That lasted
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  Speaker 2: like a week because he ran away. And then we
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  Speaker 2: had another one that was a mix between a white
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  Speaker 2: lab and a white German shepherd. Unbelievable dogs. Loved every
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  Speaker 2: one of those dogs. But when the last one died,
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  Speaker 2: Dawn said, I don't know if I could take another
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  Speaker 2: one dying.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. It hit her really hard. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are like that. You know, when they lose a
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  Speaker 1: cherished member of their family, because that's what Buddy was
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  Speaker 1: to you. They find it. They know, well, we could
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  Speaker 1: get another dog, but nobody's going to replace Buddy. And
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  Speaker 1: it would remind you of Buddy. But now, deer radar.
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  Speaker 2: Well, aside from that, that's going to make certain. Seal
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  Speaker 2: the deal. That's going to close the deal, yeah. Because
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  Speaker 2: she came to me about a week ago and said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think I'm ready to get another dog.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds like that's going to make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Wait till I tell her that. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: This will be good. Anyway, if you have any talkbacks
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  Speaker 1: on this subject, especially in light of the North Shore
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  Speaker 1: Animal League having the giveaway of puppies, especially that they've
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  Speaker 1: just rescued all over the country this weekend, how can
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  Speaker 2: You know, my mother, Francesca, no longer with us, was
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  Speaker 2: terrified of dogs. And I was delivering the New York
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  Speaker 1: So it took me a while. And I saw this
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  Speaker 1: huge dog running around. Somebody had just dumped him. You
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  Speaker 1: could tell that in the streets of Canarsie. He was
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  Speaker 1: part Great Dane, part German Shepherd. I just showed you
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  Speaker 1: a picture of it, Larry, with my grandfather, Fidelio Bianchino,
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  Speaker 1: who loved dogs. And my mom did not want a dog.
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  Speaker 1: So when I brought the dog home, she said that
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  Speaker 1: no dog is going to be in my house. You
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  Speaker 1: and your grandfather are going to have to build him
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  Speaker 1: a dog house out in the yard. And so he
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  Speaker 1: stayed in the doghouse. And obviously, nobody's coming in beyond
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  Speaker 1: that fence. So my uncle comes in, my Uncle Vincenzo,
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  Speaker 1: who's having an argument with my mother over something. I
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  Speaker 1: forget what it was. And he's arguing and arguing in
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  Speaker 1: the house. His voice is getting raised up. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. What am I going to do? I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a little kid. And he goes to leave. And
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  Speaker 1: the dog puts his paw right in front of his
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  Speaker 1: leg and puts his mouth right on his ankle. My
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  Speaker 1: cousin Vincenzo was so scared. He's saying to me, get
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  Speaker 1: that dog off of me. Get that dog off of me.
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  Speaker 1: And then he just ran out. Didn't come back to
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  Speaker 1: bother my mom after that. And you know what my
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  Speaker 1: mom said? The dog gets to stay in the house.
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  Speaker 1: The dog gets to stay in the house. Oh, and
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  Speaker 1: as you can see, you know what you should do, Natalie,
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  Speaker 1: at some point this week? Yes, what? Because we want
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  Speaker 1: to promote people going out and adopting unwanted dogs. You
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  Speaker 1: should post a picture that I just showed Larry so
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  Speaker 1: people can see. I was originally a dog guy growing up.
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  Speaker 1: And then, Larry, if you have any pictures of you
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  Speaker 1: and your dog, you should definitely post that. Just as
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  Speaker 1: an encouragement to others, because there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: unwanted dogs out there who are just looking for a home.
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  Speaker 1: of their own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll wait until we get another dog,
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  Speaker 2: which I think now is going to happen soon. You
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  Speaker 2: don't realize how important... I can't believe I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: of that before. I cannot believe I didn't think of that.
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  Speaker 2: Because you told me when they.
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  Speaker 1: When we first consummated this relationship, you know, after Tom
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  Speaker 1: Cuddy did the shit in March, you told me that
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  Speaker 1: your wife Dawn hates the deer coming into your yard.
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  Speaker 1: And we've tried everything. And eat all the flowers, eat everything.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't even want to plant anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We've tried coyote urine, which smells horrible, but we had
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  Speaker 2: it all over our yard. First rain, it's gone. We
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  Speaker 2: tried everything. I will promise you, we will have a
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  Speaker 2: dog within two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Because the dog is going to frolic in the yard,
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  Speaker 1: and the deer are going to stay away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even if it's a puppy, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: run after the deer like it wants.
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  Speaker 1: To play, and it's still going to scare them off.
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  Speaker 1: You see, I did a good thing. Larry, Dawn, if
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  Speaker 1: you're listening, Natalie, I did a good thing. I was
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  Speaker 1: able to put the key in the door and turn it.
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  Speaker 1: To give rationale to Dawn to get over her mourning
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  Speaker 1: period for your previous beloved dog, Buddy. And this now
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  Speaker 1: has a rational reason why you got to do that. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: and she hates the deer. She hates the deer. Probably
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  Speaker 1: treats deer like Agent Orange in hooves. Because people say
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  Speaker 1: when the deer come on like your property, Natalie, they
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  Speaker 1: just eat everything in sight.
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  Speaker 2: We tried everything. My son was out with a BB
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  Speaker 2: gun shooting them. And I said, what if he hit
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  Speaker 2: one in the eye? And that stopped that. Then after that,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, up next, what a great– golly, gee, golly, holly, yoski, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees just killed the Red Sox last night at
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  Speaker 2: Well, going into their first playoff game against the Red Sox,
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  Speaker 2: you heard a lot of people upset.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, we don't have Aaron Judge. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 2: My question is, who needs Aaron Judge when you have
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  Speaker 2: Ben Rice?
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  Speaker 1: He hammers this ball right center field. It is a slam!
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  Speaker 1: And that wasn't all for him the night he had.
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  Speaker 1: What a night for Ben Rice. Six RBIs, four hits tonight,
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  Speaker 1: two homers, a single and a double. And he just
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  Speaker 1: put this game out of reach.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't even the best Yankee player on the field.
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  Speaker 2: That would be Cam Schlittler, who retired the first 13
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  Speaker 2: batters in a row. And they were chanting not just
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  Speaker 2: Cy Young. They were chanting MVP at that point. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what, Curtis, you've got to be happy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy because both these boys you mentioned are
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  Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. Grew up in Red Sox land. So this
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  Speaker 1: is like a double whammy to the Red Sox who
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  Speaker 1: I hate, I loathe, I despise. And tonight, game two,
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  Speaker 1: the Yanks could wipe them out. It's just a three-game set.
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  Speaker 1: Max Fried, who would be Warner Wolfe's favorite pitcher, Jewish
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  Speaker 1: kid from Santa Monica, California for the Yankees. Sonny Gray
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  Speaker 1: was a great pitcher, except when he was with the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: He was horrible. So the Yankees are in his head.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's a pretty good prediction if you
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  Speaker 1: went to Polymark. that the Yankees are going to take
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  Speaker 1: this in two. And it's what I said yesterday. Remember
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  Speaker 1: when Aaron Judge was ruled out because he can't even
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  Speaker 1: run because of the calf injury? Go with the guys
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  Speaker 1: who got you there. There's this young energy. Forget Aaron Judge.
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  Speaker 1: Forget Stanton. Listen to him now. You didn't say that
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  Speaker 1: a couple days ago. I said he's horrible in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: He really is. He doesn't deliver in the playoffs. You
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  Speaker 1: were worried, though. A little worried. Not really. Not really.
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  Speaker 1: They got the young guns. And the other good thing
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  Speaker 1: that Aaron Boone did, he looked at Chisholm at second base.
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  Speaker 1: who's got attitude. He's like Reggie Jackson who can't deliver.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Reggie Jackson had attitude, but he was Mr. October. Chisholm, attitude,
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  Speaker 1: can't deliver. He spreads disharmony in the clubhouse. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I want to play, coach. He said, no, we're playing
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  Speaker 1: Volpe at second. And man, the energy was so good
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  Speaker 1: going into this playoff against the hated Red Sox. And
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  Speaker 1: it was that home run, and I know, Larry, you're
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: licking your wounds because first game against the Atlanta Braves,
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  Speaker 1: Philly in the later innings, and boom, the Atlanta Braves
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  Speaker 1: hit one out of there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not holding out much hope for the Phillies, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Yankees fan. No, no, we don't want you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you do. Oh, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be a fair-weather fan.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be loyal to your team.
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  Speaker 2: Can I tell you, I've worked in so many cities,
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  Speaker 2: and I've covered them so much that I now– I
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  Speaker 2: like the Cubs. I like the Yankees and the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, I was good luck.
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  Speaker 2: When I was here at Eyewitness News, the Mets won
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  Speaker 2: the World Series and the Giants won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: So you want me on your team. No. You need
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  Speaker 1: me on that wall. No, I'm sorry. You're a Phillies fan.
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  Speaker 1: Stay a Phillies fan. One thing that Aaron Boone, the manager,
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  Speaker 1: he's missed to analytics. So Cam Schlittler threw 117 pitches. Now, normally,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Boone, it's like you're at 87, 90 pitches. He
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  Speaker 1: pulls you. He let him throw 117 pitches before he
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  Speaker 1: pulled them out, which is not customary for Aaron. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go by the analytics boon who our own Warner Wolf
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  Speaker 1: is always attacking.
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  Speaker 2: But of course he did, because not one batter reached
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  Speaker 2: second base. He walked one, he gave up a couple hits,
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  Speaker 2: but nobody even got to second base under him. In
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  Speaker 2: the old days, they would have let him throw a
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  Speaker 2: complete game. But let's get to some talkbacks. Anyway, congratulations, Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think this is over.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I'd like to say about adopting dogs. We rescued Moose,
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  Speaker 5: a massive mix, two years ago. Great dog. People really
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  Speaker 5: should look at the larger breed dogs. They get left
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  Speaker 5: behind because they're so big. But they are just big mushes,
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  Speaker 5: and they should really be considered. It's going to take
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  Speaker 5: two to three years for you to get to know
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: your dog.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great talk back. I've always had
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: a bigger dog, and I love them.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: For your family, they are big mushes. For everybody else, well,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the neighbor said to me one time, you know how
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you think Buddy's so cute? Nobody else in the neighborhood
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: thinks that. Here's another talk back.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: Hey, you got to watch out getting a dog to
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: keep deer away, man. My aunt had a puppy that
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: befriended local deer. And all the time, that dog would
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: be out prancing around with the deer in the backyard.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: That was the last buddy who was a big disappointment.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: They became friends?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: No, buddy.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I told you this story before. Buddy used to sit
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: there with the deer. They knew each other's names.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: That would be my problem.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: Hey.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: Wait, wait.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Natalie, don't vacillate. Don't get weak. You had that little
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: puppy from South Carolina from the animal... North Shore Animal
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: League in your hands and you fell in love with
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that little puppy. Don't extricate yourself. That puppy is expecting
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to go home with you to New Jersey. You know that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: That bond was made yesterday here at iHeart. You were
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: hugging it and kissing it. It was kissing you back.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It was adorable.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: Darian, do you want a dog?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I do, actually. I want a dog, but I have
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: three now.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: My husband says if I bring one more home It's
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: going to be him or the dog, and I tell them,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: don't tempt me.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Here's Derry Albinger now with the 630 News.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Sunny and warmer today. Clouds rolling in this afternoon. We'll
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: have a high of 75 degrees. You can call it
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: whatever you want, but if you work for the federal government...
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: The term is now officially superintelligence after President Trump signed
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: an executive order.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: The order, signed Tuesday, states that going forward, all federal websites, documents,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: and press releases will no longer mention AI, but only superintelligence.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Trump signed the order after a luncheon at the White
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: House with tech CEOs, including Elon Musk, and said super
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: is the best word of all, and it's the simplest,
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: so we're going to be naming it S.I., superintelligence. He added, quote,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: we don't want to hear artificial intelligence because it's not artificial.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I'm Tammy Trujillo.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: The NYPD is looking into officers' use of flock safety
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: data as it creates department rules for using vendors like
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: it which the city currently doesn't have a contract with.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: That news from the department Tuesday, one day after advocacy
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: groups reported that two dozen NYPD officers had used Flock's
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: database more than 1,700 times. There will now be set
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: rules and guidelines for turning to any outside data company.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: Those officers did not violate department rules since there were none.
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: While the department does not work with Flock, it does
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: work with a similar firm and runs its own network
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: of license plate readers. Andrew Whitman, WOR News.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: There was supposed to be an initial public offering today
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: on Wall Street by smart ringmaker Ura, but it's going
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: to delay it for the time being. The company had
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: been looking to raise more than $ 2 billion and start
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: trading on the NASDAQ today, but now Ura says it's
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: going to put that IPO on hold because of uncertainty
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: in the market, despite what it says is strong demand
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: for the product. Yankees win game 1 of their AL
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: wildcard series against Boston. Game 2 is tonight at the stadium.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: The Liberty upsets top-ranked Minnesota and moves ahead in the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: WNBA playoffs. And the Rangers open their season with a
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: loss to Boston. The Islanders are in Toronto tonight. Next news,
• 20:02
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• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Sean Puff, Teddy Combs. It was a scene out of Goodfellas. Man,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: prison is as good to him as life was on
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the outside as he was looking in. We'll get into
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that up next. Meantime, oh, we've just completed our 2026
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Music Festival that was presented by Capital One. You
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: can relieve all the biggest moments. Streaming on Disney Plus
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and Hulu beginning tomorrow. You know, the other morning, Larry
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and Natalie, when we talked about the winners of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Video Music Awards, you notice the one thing that was missing?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: They looked forward to Sean Puff, Daddy Combs after party.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Because once that clock struck 12. If you remain behind
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for that after party, guess what? Hookers galore. Females, males,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: baby body oil, pink cocaine, which doesn't have any cocaine
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: in it, the drug of your choice. And it was Caligula,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes for 24 straight hours. So that's what all these trendoids, freakasoids,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: and jet setters look forward to. Even if P. Diddy
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: didn't win any awards, didn't matter. P. Diddy was going
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to throw the after party. And if you stayed after 12,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you knew exactly what was taking place. Don't act like
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you didn't know. Well, guess what? That lifestyle has not changed.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: We would have thought, oh, my God, he's found guilty
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of basically being a pimp, of promoting prostitution. He's got
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: 50 months, another two years to go on a sentence.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And they sent him nearby Fort Dix, which used to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: be the federal fort. But they turned it into a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: federal prison, mostly if you committed political crimes, white collar
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: crimes or other crimes not considered a hardcore prison. Well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's the Sean Puff Daddy Combs prison because whatever he wants,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he gets the VIP life behind bars. He gets Chinese massages.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He gets alcohol and shares it with his Maytag prisoners,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the guys that he pays for to provide him services.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: He gets the baby oil. He gets nude photos on
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a cell phone that he uses 24-7 from an old
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: girlfriend who still has an Instagram account that he taps into.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So it's sex, sex, sex, sex, sex. They cater to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: every one of his predilections. And you know what is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: unsaid here is he's having sex with some of these inmates,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: probably the transgenders, because this guy, his libido is out
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of control. He has men, inmates who will cook and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: clean for him. They call Maytags in jail. They'll make
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: his bed. They do his laundry. They clean the shower
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: before he goes in and they clean his turlet. I mean,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and you know this is going on with federal correctional officers,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: all who appear to be on the take, and if
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: they're not on the take, they know what's going on,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but they do nothing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the interesting part. So you think to yourself, well,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: how does he pay these inmates? How is that possibly happening?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And they'd be caught if he was paying the guards.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That's easy to check and easy to find out. What's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: happening is that some people outside of the prison in–
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: The P. Diddy world are putting money into the commissary
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: accounts of the inmates that now serve him. So all
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of these commissary accounts are all of a sudden getting
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: thousands of dollars, as is P. Diddy. P. Diddy's account
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: is well-funded. So all of the money is coming from
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: outside sources. So I'm not certain— I don't doubt it, though—
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not certain that any of these guards are on
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the take, but certainly the inmates are all getting well-paid,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and they're going to have money when they come out.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's like that famous scene in Goodfellas. Remember when Henry
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Hill is going to do his time with all of
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: his boys from the Lucchese crime family in Brooklyn, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: there's Paul Sorvino saying, hey, don't worry about it, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: then he's cutting the onions. They got the chicken. They
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: got the sausage. They got steak. They're living the life.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He has cooked curry chicken, pizza, empanadas that are made
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: for him by his Maytags, these inmates, in a makeshift
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: heating element submerged in water. Whatever he wants, he gets. Now,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: now that this is public, now that the media has it,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: all the media has it, it's gone viral. If you're
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: running the Department of Corrections for the feds, You got
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to immediately transfer him to a rough prison like Atlanta.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's the oldest in the system. It's really bad. Or Marion,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: where John Gotti Sr. was until he died. Or Terre Haute.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: These are old, old-star prisons. Or the Supermax in Florence, Colorado.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: For the worst of the worst, you never see the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: light of day. It's all underground. You cannot allow him
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to stay there. at Fort Dix and continue to do
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: his time till 2028. He has made a joke of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the federal correctional system.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be really fascinating to see what
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the politics of this.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It's because you're right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: This all burst on the front pages across the country
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: at the exact same time. You go do a search,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: go do a Google search. You'll see all of these
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: stories about it over and over and over again. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: so the politics of it is going to be fascinating
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: because everything's political now. during a midterm. So now Mikey
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Sherrill probably hears about this story. Governor Mikey Sherrill hears
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: about the story and says, oh, thank God it's a federal.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank God it's federal. And now she's going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: have a news conference or she's going to put out
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a statement saying, I can't believe this is happening. Why
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is the Trump administration allowing this to happen? How come
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: people like Tom Kane Jr. aren't out in front in
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: this demanding that something be done?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Well, what I would do is I would switch it
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and say, look at Delaney, where they house the illegals.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: They can barely have an air sandwich. They have no amenities.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And here's Sean Puff Daddy Combs at federal taxpayers' expense. Now,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: she would be right about that if she used the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: correlation and say, look how he's being treated like the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Prince of Bel-Air. It's it's unfathomable. Now, if you're the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: head of correct or the DOJ member, DOJ is responsible
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: for this. The attorney general is going to have to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: make some kind of statement. Remember Barr, the attorney general,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: when Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide? Yeah, yeah, sure he did.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Remember Barr took control of the whole. We got to
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: see the attorney general on this saying, no, no, no.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: There are consequences for the actions. for any of the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: correctional officers involved, inmates involved, and most specifically with transferring P.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Diddy out for the rest of his sentence to a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: tough jail where none of that nonsense is permitted.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We will see how much Donald Trump thinks about this
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: case and if he wants to get involved because you're
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: saying it's the Attorney General. You know Trump's going to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: be asked about it. There's no question Trump's going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be asked about it. But if he really doesn't want
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to answer anything about it, He'll put Todd Blanch out.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Todd Blanch will be out first making a statement. He's
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: got a tablet in his jail cell. Guess what he
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: watches over and over on his computer that's been provided
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to him? Porn?
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: The Netflix documentary series done by 50 Cent about him,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs, The Reckoning. Apparently, according to the inmates, he
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: watches it over and over and over, binge-watching, binge-watching, While
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's getting excited when he goes
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: onto his cell phone, to that Instagram account with his
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: old girlfriend. And he's getting all sexed up. Where's the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: baby oil? Hey, you make it. Come over here. It's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: time to service me. This is getting bad now. Please.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You know that's what's going on. It's 6.46 in the morning.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Castration is his cure. It's the only way.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It's the only way. When we come back.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Well, when Benjamin Netanyahu was here last week, he ripped.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Zoran Mamdani about how he treats Jews in this city,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and it resonated. Resonated so much that Zoran Mamdani came
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: out yesterday and said he's going to do something about it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Never mentioned Netanyahu, just mentioned a plan. We'll tell you
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: what it is next. Benjamin Netanyahu was just here last
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: week at the UN and gave a speech that was tremendous.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the polls in Israel now
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: at the Knesset especially, showed that he may have enough
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: votes to stay on. And it definitely is after that speech.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the speech, at least a third
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: of it, was attacking New York Mayor Zorin Mamdani. And
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: apparently those punches hit.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: Mamdani, since you were elected mayor of this city, many
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Jews no longer feel safe in New York.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: They talk to me. They tell me.
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: This isn't the city we remember. It changed so quickly. Now,
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: it's no wonder. You praise criminals convicted of supporting Hamas.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: You count as friends people like Hassan Piker, who said
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: America deserved 9-11. America deserved 9-11.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: 9-11.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: Some friends you have.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's vicious. It was a vicious speech against Mamdani. It
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: resonated in the Jewish community. Zoran Mamdani couldn't just sit
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: on his hands. So yesterday he released a 35-page report
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to fight antisemitism and hate crimes in New York City.
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: Antisemitism is real and it is growing. Here in New
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: York City, while our Jewish neighbors make up only 12%
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: of the population, NYPD statistics show that antisemitic hate crimes
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: account for more than half of all confirmed hate crimes.
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: This is not only unacceptable, it's something we all have
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: an obligation to change.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's talked about this $ 10 million that now is
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: going towards hate crimes. It was already there. The $ 10
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: million was already there. But he also talked about now
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: supporting programs to celebrate Jewish traditions.
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: Jewish New Yorkers should feel cherished and celebrated in the
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: most Jewish city in America. That's why we are investing
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: millions in Jewish cultural centers and nonprofits.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Curtis, you know the city better than I do, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you certainly know the Jewish community very well. Is that
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: going to be enough after the takedown of Netanyahu?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: No, they both sides love it because it gets to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: distract from the real issues that we need to have
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: being dealt with in New York City. Jews complain yet. 30%
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of them voted for Zoran Mandami, right? So it's back
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and forth. Zoran loves this because he's become an international figure.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: So he spent $ 6 million as part of this combat
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: anti-Semitism program to beef up security around synagogues and shuls. Good.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Expand educational efforts by having field trips to the Museum
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: of Jewish Heritage. Will the schools actually do it? Remember,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: principals make that decision. Principals are independent and autonomous. They
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: hire teachers. They set the program. So are they actually
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: going to take advantage of paid-for field trips to the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Museum of Jewish Heritage? We'll find out. But it wasn't
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: good enough. The Anti-Defamation League said, no, but you, you're
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: attacking Zionism. Man, it's like if you say to a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Jewish person now, they've redefined what being an anti-Semite is.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: If you happen to be Jewish, Larry, and I said,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you know, are you more supportive of Israel or the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: United States? You know, what's first, America first or Israel first?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And if you say, well, you know, my heart is
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: in Israel, my religious convictions are in Israel. And I say, well,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that's wrong. It should be America first. Do you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: according to the Anti-Defamation League, I'm an anti-Semite. I know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: but Zorah Mamdani's got a problem. He does have a problem.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure those 30% are going to be
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: with him anymore, but he knows he has a problem.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's why he's doing this. But this $ 10 million, that's fregazi,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: as you would say, because money's already been allocated. That
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: money's already been allocated. So it was already in the budget.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: He's making it sound like it's brand new. And how
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: is that going to fight anti-Semitism that he's now going
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: to celebrate... cultural events in the Jewish community. He's not
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: doing anything to fight anti-Semitism. And regardless, forget about Israel,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: forget about all of the talk around that and who's
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: an anti-Semite and who's pro-Israel. There is a problem in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: New York City with hate crimes against Jews. We've reported
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: on it every single week. Something has to be done,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and it can't be just giving more money for Hanukkah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: It has to be police officers. It has to be
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a crackdown. Well, Julie Menon, last time I looked, she's Jewish, right?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Man, you want to blame... How about Zul and Mamdani?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: He's the mayor. Weren't they supposed to hire 500 more cops?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: You will distract everything. Did Julie Menon do a pivot
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and shift on that?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: He is the mayor of New York City.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Blame him. She was supposed to hire 500 more cops.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He can do that. She took it out of the budget.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: He said that too. He did the same thing. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: by the way. Zora and Mamdadi, stay on the topic.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: If you don't think Bibi is the problem, why don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you look at Bono? You may love this guy. Bono
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: did such a great song in the aftermath of October 7th,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the anniversary coming up three years since. He is now
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: attacking B.B. He's saying, what are you doing? We're going
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to go to Bono now. Anything but not attack. Who else?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You are so disconnected with what's going on out there. Oh,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I must be. Because you listen to a few people
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: in the Anti-Defamation League.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: No, I don't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You know what they're urging? I didn't listen to them
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: at all. In the West Bank, B.B. and his staff
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: are urging that all Palestinians go to Ireland. That they
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: leave the West Bank.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And if I.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Say that's wrong, I'm an anti-Semite.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: No, I would like to hear you say that this guy...
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: is a great salesman but an awful mayor.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Well, you better tell 30% of the Jews who voted
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: for him in the primary and in the general election.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: They ain't going to do it anymore. And he's more
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: popular in America amongst Jews than Bibi Netanyahu. And you've
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: seen those polls.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: So what?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: What do you mean, so what? There's anti-semitism. There's hate
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: crimes in the city. You want to talk about anything else?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Up next, we got to talk about what's going on
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: in Cornell, right?