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LNC Catches a Man Cold · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the largen or Drunk Collider podcast.
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  Speaker 1: The podcast SAIDs all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us, and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm aerial cast and with me as always.
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  Speaker 1: Is he ever delightful? Jonathan Strickland, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't remember one end of the microphone. He talks in too.
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  Speaker 1: I know you had a nice, good long break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that part with me that that break started
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  Speaker 2: at the end of August beginning of September and then
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  Speaker 2: lasted through almost the entire month of September. But that
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  Speaker 2: was not our plan. That was due to h I
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  Speaker 2: got sick after by my vacation. It was one of
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  Speaker 2: those things where I was around too many people in
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  Speaker 2: an enclosed space, first a cruise ship and then an airplane,
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  Speaker 2: and I just got a really nasty cold that laid
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  Speaker 2: me low. I wasn't it wasn't covid, It wasn't anything serious,
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  Speaker 2: but it was one of those where I was like
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  Speaker 2: snotty and coughing and just felt like achy, and so
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't. It wasn't flu or covid, but it was
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  Speaker 2: enough to I had a man cold, y'all. If you
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  Speaker 2: know the if you know the man cold story, you
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  Speaker 2: know that if a man gets a cold, he's laid
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  Speaker 2: low for like a week.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I also went through it
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  Speaker 1: because before Dragon Con. Thankfully, it ran through me quickly,
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  Speaker 1: because my husband caught a man cold and then I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, I have shows. So he slept in
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  Speaker 1: the basement like a champ, and I asked whenever we were
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  Speaker 1: around me, like we still hung out because like we
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  Speaker 1: share a house, we both work from home, right, and
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to go into the office when he's sick.
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  Speaker 1: So like when we did watch TV or have dinner together,
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  Speaker 1: I would mask and he would mask, so I thought
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  Speaker 1: I was clear. And then when he was feeling better,
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  Speaker 1: I took my mask off and I got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of his man called I think it's just like
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  Speaker 1: it's like social social muscles. You build these muscles that
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  Speaker 1: we all lost during the pandemic, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I also lost my sickness muscles, like it's just a cold.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine. Now, I'm like, oh my god, it's a cold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I was. I got to I got
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  Speaker 2: to the stage where I was coughing hard enough that
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  Speaker 2: it was making me feel nauseated, like I wasn't sick
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  Speaker 2: to my stomach otherwise, it was just from the coughing
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  Speaker 2: that that was causing it.
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  Speaker 1: Like activates your gag reflegs or something that.
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  Speaker 2: Was no fun. That was the worst, but that was
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  Speaker 2: that was like literally the last night of it being bad, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's the worst it got. And the next day
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I kind of feel like how
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  Speaker 2: I felt two days ago, like I'm not feeling great,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm feeling better, and then gradually it improved. I
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  Speaker 2: still am a little raspy, and I might hit mute
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  Speaker 2: couple of times in order to clear my throat because
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  Speaker 2: talking gets me that way.
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  Speaker 1: I've already done it twice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'll happen. But we are glad to be back.
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  Speaker 2: We're so sorry that we left all of y'all without
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  Speaker 2: our dulcet tones for so long.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like legitimately I missed doing this. And part
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  Speaker 1: of it is because you know, I love you, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: but part of it is because I love our listeners. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are so cool. You're just so cool. Every
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  Speaker 1: time that we get to chat or you said us something,
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  Speaker 1: You're just awesome.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you know, at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, we are geeks and we love to geek out.
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  Speaker 2: And it's true, like the more people you have around
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  Speaker 2: you who are geeking out about stuff, the more fun
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  Speaker 2: it is. Like that's why like everything from rocky horror
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  Speaker 2: screenings to going to a midnight premiere of like a
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  Speaker 2: geek movie. That's what makes those events so much fun
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  Speaker 2: is that you just got this communal group of people
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  Speaker 2: celebrating in something that they love. And so we're both
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  Speaker 2: very glad that we're back now.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and there. So our episode this week is
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  Speaker 1: like a hodgepodge of the last few weeks of cool
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  Speaker 1: geeky stories that have come out, because there's been a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually we both had to go through and cut
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  Speaker 2: a ton of stuff out of the lineup because we
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  Speaker 2: just had so much from the past few weeks where yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of important things, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: we had a bit where we acknowledge the passing of
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  Speaker 2: Robert Redford, for example, who has appeared in numerous projects,
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  Speaker 2: some of which fall into the geek sphere. But again,
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  Speaker 2: like it's been so it's been enough time since his
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  Speaker 2: passing that that is like I think everyone's aware of it, right,
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  Speaker 2: So while we do acknowledge it and send our love
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  Speaker 2: and thoughts to his friends and family, we're not spending
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  Speaker 2: more time on it simply because I think everybody's processed
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  Speaker 2: that by now. So we've got a lot of those elements.
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  Speaker 2: There's still some stuff on the lineup where we're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we know we've talked about this before, but it's too
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  Speaker 2: fun to skip, so we're gonna do it again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But before we get into all
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  Speaker 1: of the fun stuff that we didn't want to skip,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about the fun stuff that we did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. But before that, Oh, I have to ask you a.
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  Speaker 1: Question you too, shade my toochee. Look, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: remembering the format of our show. I need to add
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  Speaker 1: question to the top of art outline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I almost forgot, except when I started to
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  Speaker 2: make up my notes, I was like, wait, something usually
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  Speaker 2: goes right here. So the question for you, I believe
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  Speaker 2: this is another one that I've asked you before. But again,
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  Speaker 2: are our tastes in this case literally can change over time?
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  Speaker 2: And the question is, since we're now firmly headed into
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  Speaker 2: spooky season, what, in your opinion is the best candy
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  Speaker 2: to receive while you are trick or treating during Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: So normally my answer has been like a Reese's peanut
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  Speaker 1: butter cup followed by a butterfinger.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, those are my answers too. I would flip
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  Speaker 2: the order.
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  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, not recent pieces because as we talked about
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  Speaker 1: on our old episode of Business on the Brink, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have the same burnt peanut flavor as a res
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  Speaker 1: peanut butter cup. That's what makes recent peanut butter cum
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  Speaker 1: so successful. If you've never listened to that episode, it's
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  Speaker 1: actually really cool. You don't even have to listen to us.
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  Speaker 1: You could just go google it, but it's a really interesting story. However,
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  Speaker 1: my new favorite addiction, which I think is like half
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  Speaker 1: of the universe's new favorite addiction, is freakin freeze driede candy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who would give it out as
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  Speaker 1: like a Halloween treat because it's pretty pricey still because
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  Speaker 1: you're paying or the candy, plus you're paying for the
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  Speaker 1: freeze dried process. And it's usually small batch because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't only do so much at a time. But
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  Speaker 1: like a freeze dride high chew or a freeze dried
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  Speaker 1: gummy bear are amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I have not tried this. I've got to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's like some of the candies. You have to be
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  Speaker 1: careful because some of the candies ay freeze dried and
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  Speaker 1: they just become a little bit hard because it's really
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  Speaker 1: that crunchy texture. But you've tried honeycomb candy before, correct, Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I have. It kind of turns like a high chew
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  Speaker 1: into a honeycomb candy.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, So you get that nice condensed fruit flavor. But
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  Speaker 1: they're really amazing, like crumbly airy nice.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if I were to add to mine,
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  Speaker 2: it would be sour gummies. So when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: I loved sweet tarts and I'm sure I still would.
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  Speaker 2: If I got a roll of sweet tarts, I'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm set, y'all, go on leave. I'm here for however
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  Speaker 2: long it's going to take me to go through these.
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  Speaker 1: This neck away for girl, can't judge you.
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  Speaker 2: So I just love, I love I loved heart as
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  Speaker 2: a as a flavor. I love I love that kind
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  Speaker 2: of sour. The sweet heart is like one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite tastes.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And recently we've been getting these vegan gummies, because I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure a lot of people know this already, but gummies
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  Speaker 2: typically have gelatin in them, and that's an animal byproduct,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't eat mammals in my house, so we
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  Speaker 2: look for vegan alternatives that use other materials in order
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  Speaker 2: to get that gummy texture. And some of them are
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  Speaker 2: really good. Like occasionally get one where you're just like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: this is just gonna cement my teeth together. But other
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  Speaker 2: times you'll find ones where you're like, oh, this is great.
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  Speaker 2: It's got just enough chew to it without it being hard.
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  Speaker 2: And then I wish I could tell you what the
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  Speaker 2: brand is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any just about to ask.
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  Speaker 2: I'll definitely text you and maybe we can add it
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  Speaker 2: to like show notes or something. But I'll text you
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  Speaker 2: when I get a chance to run upstairs. Because they're
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  Speaker 2: really good. They like they have a nice flavor, and
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  Speaker 2: I love the sour ones. My partner prefers the regular kind,
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  Speaker 2: but those would be my new favorite if they had
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  Speaker 2: them in like individual little packs. I've only seen them
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  Speaker 2: in like the big bags. And I ain't made a
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  Speaker 2: money y'all. I'm not gonna sit there and buy one
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  Speaker 2: hundred you know, bags of these things. Plus we never
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  Speaker 2: get tricker treaters anyway, so it would just be me
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  Speaker 2: eating them and crying.
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  Speaker 1: Per per usual, I will buy my one pack of
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  Speaker 1: full sizers for any kids that come by, and then
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  Speaker 1: like some handouts of like the smaller like chewy or like,
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  Speaker 1: because not every kid can have chocolate, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: them have like Yeah, So we also usually buy like
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  Speaker 1: like a Skittles red Vine kind of a safer mix
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  Speaker 1: as well, and a couple of toys for kids who
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  Speaker 1: like candy. But we you know, we we usually get
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  Speaker 1: one or two trigger treaters a year, so then we
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  Speaker 1: have to find recipients for the rest of it.
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  Speaker 2: We've done We've done the same thing where we would
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  Speaker 2: get a collection of toys and allergy safe candies and
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  Speaker 2: we would have we would put out a teal pumpkin
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  Speaker 2: out front to signal that hey, we have allergy friendly.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't know any of this. My partner did
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  Speaker 2: all the research and put it all together. She's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we we've done that in the past.
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  Speaker 2: It's just that over the last few years, like literally
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  Speaker 2: not a single person has come by, so I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that we're even really doing Halloween this year. I'll
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  Speaker 2: probably put the pumpkins out. Maybe I'll do that this
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  Speaker 2: weekend because my partner created a bunch of took a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of like craft pumpkins, you know, not real pumpkins,
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  Speaker 2: but ones made of like foam and plastic and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and did one that's like a steam pumpkin. Oh nice,
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  Speaker 2: So it's got like a little little gear, monocle and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's really cute. And then a Day of the Dead pumpkin.
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  Speaker 2: So We've got a couple of different ones that I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna put out. But that's as close as we ever
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  Speaker 2: get because we live in a little complex that that
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  Speaker 2: kids don't go to, mostly because like the neighborhood further
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  Speaker 2: back from us is incredible, so they never get beyond
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  Speaker 2: that because all they have to do is wander the
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  Speaker 2: streets and they just it's like the mother load.
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  Speaker 1: It's similar here. So we have one or two neighbors
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  Speaker 1: who have stopped by every year, and we've had more
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  Speaker 1: that as they've moved in and out. One of those
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  Speaker 1: neighbors did move away, so I doubt we will get
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  Speaker 1: to get them as a tricker treater this year, but
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  Speaker 1: they always stop by because they know we have something.
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  Speaker 1: But like, we do have more kids in our neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's just one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: like if they don't know you're doing it, then they're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna waste the time walking up and down all
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  Speaker 1: of our hills. They're going to go somewhere else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And also I feel like I don't know there are
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  Speaker 1: some neighborhoods where you still do like the door to door.
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  Speaker 1: I know that our mutual friend Crispy used to do
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  Speaker 1: a really huge thing, like a huge yard set up
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  Speaker 1: with a candy delivery for trigger treaters. But some people
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  Speaker 1: just do the tables out front. And I would do
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  Speaker 1: a table out front if we had enough kids to
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  Speaker 1: do it. But I used to love as a kid
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  Speaker 1: knocking on the doors because sometimes I had like neighbors
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  Speaker 1: who would try to scare me and it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we've got a street near us. It's right
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  Speaker 2: across from a not to docks myself, but I live
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  Speaker 2: not too far from Candler Park in Atlanta, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a street that borders Candler Park. And the only reason
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  Speaker 2: I know this is because Tibbalt, my dog, took me
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  Speaker 2: there on Halloween one time, he just decided that's where
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to go, and he had the best time
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  Speaker 2: because there were so many children and the same sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing. There were people who had set up tables
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  Speaker 2: out front and were giving away candy, and it was
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  Speaker 2: like a it was like a block party that was there.
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  Speaker 2: It was incredible and it made me miss the same
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  Speaker 2: thing you were talking about, both the experience of trick
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  Speaker 2: or treating or giving candy out the trick or treaters.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully we can we can figure that out
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  Speaker 2: and get like more participation and stuff or maybe even
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'll even see if we can piggyback on to
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  Speaker 2: the neighborhood down the street and be part of that,
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  Speaker 2: because even though it would require me to schlep stuff
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  Speaker 2: a couple of blocks away, it would be fun to
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  Speaker 2: participate in that. Again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and like just for the joy of I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's a joy for everyone. It's not you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's it's really nice to make kids smile
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  Speaker 1: and give them some fun.
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  Speaker 2: And you get to see some of the some of
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  Speaker 2: the most creative and fun costumes, like sometimes like seeing
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  Speaker 2: a little kid dressed up as like as like as
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  Speaker 2: like leather Face from Texas Chateslawbassacre will never not make
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  Speaker 2: me laugh?
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  Speaker 1: Fair fair a. Going back to the candy, I do
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  Speaker 1: have a question for you. Yeah, because you said you
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  Speaker 1: like sweetheart and you like sour Do you like the
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  Speaker 1: ultrasour things like the warheads and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: I can take or leave those, They're okay like it
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  Speaker 2: to me. That falls into the same category as hot
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  Speaker 2: sauces that are just blazingly hot without any thought to
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  Speaker 2: how they taste. And I like a good hot sauce,
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  Speaker 2: like I like a good kick, but I want the
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  Speaker 2: flavor to be there. Right. I'm never give me the bomb,
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  Speaker 2: there's no point. It's just as battery acid that burns you.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you give me some of that last dab.
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  Speaker 2: I like that it tastes good. Same with the sour candies,
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  Speaker 2: right like I feel like the warheads and stuff. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of scratching that same itch of you're not really
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  Speaker 2: tough unless you can tough out this experience, which is
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  Speaker 2: designed to be unpleasant at first and then improve over time. Eh.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather just have something that's tasty from the get go.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. I used to love warheads, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: growing up going out to like the outdoor concerts because
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  Speaker 1: the city that I lived in and currently live in,
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  Speaker 1: I moved away and moved back the town I guess
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  Speaker 1: will have like just a summer series concert in like
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  Speaker 1: the Square, and I would get a pack of like
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  Speaker 1: blue raspberry warheads and I would eat the entire pack
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  Speaker 1: during the concert one time, so much that I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if like I burnt my tongue or if it
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  Speaker 1: just built up, but I developed a second skin on
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  Speaker 1: my tongue and it was really weird, and say, that's gross.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've heard about people who have burnt the lining
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  Speaker 2: of their mouth from those things. Like it's just so
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  Speaker 2: strong that it'll actually eat away part of the lining
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  Speaker 2: of their mouth, and it sounds awful.
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  Speaker 1: Like it didn't hurt. It might have just been that
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  Speaker 1: I built up, like I an entire large pack of
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  Speaker 1: them and sitting, so it could have I could have
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  Speaker 1: just built up the sugar on my tongue, but like,
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  Speaker 1: it was really weird. I guess you should limit how
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  Speaker 1: much sour can. I think now if I ate that
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  Speaker 1: much sour, like super sour candy, I would have a
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  Speaker 1: very upset stomach.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think y'all can also tell that it's
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  Speaker 2: been a while since Ariel and I got a chance
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  Speaker 2: to talk to each other. Yeah, because that's that's just
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  Speaker 2: what we're doing now.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm not That wasn't the complaint, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like I was like, this is really nice.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to business. I know, we should do
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  Speaker 1: this more often. Yeah, just talk to each other, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, okay, but back to back to the matter
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  Speaker 2: at hand. Unless y'all all write it and say, hey,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: we love it when you two are just chatting, in
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  Speaker 2: which case, maybe we'll do a sister podcast that has
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  Speaker 2: no no like topic whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that might get real sad, though sometimes you were.
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  Speaker 2: I that's true.
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  Speaker 1: It all depends some real rough anxiety type.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you are not wrong. All right, Well, let's
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: let us talk about the things that we have seen. Obviously,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a whole month has gone by, so there's been a lot,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and we're just probably gonna give you a smattering of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the stuff we've we've watched since the last time we
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: were together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I watched the first episode of Alien Earth,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and I also watched the first episode of Peacemaker season two,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the first episode of Alien Earth. I really liked the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: main character. I didn't expect to from the trailers. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: feel like they buried the lead on how cool she was.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I really liked the concept. It very much does play
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: heavily into Peter Pan, and I'm looking forward to seeing
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: some more of the corporate intrigue the alien stuff. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: don't know, like I'm still I did. They didn't set
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: up fully in the first episode how exactly the episodes
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: would go, so I don't know. I thought I was
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: prepared for the amount of nudity in Peacemaker season two, episode.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: One, after I warned you about it, after you wore me.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I was not.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: For me way too much. No.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: When I watched it, I was like, oh, Ariel is
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not going to be able to get through this very easily.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: No, No, I had to look away until it was safe,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: which was really hard to tell.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Well, get ready for episode two because not that there's more,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: but there's like surprise nudity on occasion.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: A little bit of surprise nudity I can do. But
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that was that was trying to show gratuitous that it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: got the definition of its word wrong. The meat the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: definition it's.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Name wrong, oddly enough because the spoiler alert for mine.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: But I've I've watched Peacemaker. I'm not quite up to date.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I did not see the episode that published yesterday. We're
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: recording this on a Friday. It comes out on Thursdays.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I've not seen episode six yet. I've seen the first five,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: and I can tell you that after I think after
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the first two episodes, I don't remember there being any
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: nudity in episodes three, four or five.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like in the first season
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it definitely started with the shock value, and there was
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: definitely shock value all throughout the series, but it got
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that it got more narrative as time went on. Other
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: things that I watched real quick, I am. I've been
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: work walking my way backwards through all of Task Masters,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: so I just started season seven, started at nineteen. I've
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: done that super fast because that's pretty much most of
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: what I watch every night. But I'm also watching season twenty,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: which is coming out once a week right now. The
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: latest episode came out yesterday and Great British breakof I'm watching,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: but they're only releasing one episode a week for that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: as well. Drop Out just released Crowd Control, which is
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the stand up comedy show that I did in Game Changer,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So that's fun. That's how I learned about Josh Johnson,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: surprisingly not from the Stephen Colbert Show, but I'm going
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to go see him this weekend, and that's really cool.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And then the actual play that I'm doing has started
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: dropping videos of like all of our characters one on
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: one sessions this week and up to leading up to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: our first episode on October seventh, and so I've been
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: watching those and it's really amazing to watch everybody else
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in their characters and their interviews and get to learn
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about them because I know some
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of the other players well, and I know some of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the other players kind of, and I don't know some
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of the players, but everybody seems so cool. I'm so excited,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm also like, it's hard because I know I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: gonna have to watch mine too so I can remember
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: what happened, and I don't like watching myself.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Remind everyone what that series is called.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a Shadow City Mysteries. It's a clockwork
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: noir fantasy where the color has been sucked out of
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the world and a bunch of unless you've got like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a steampunk clockwork kind of turnstone appliance or magic, which
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is super rare and kind of the mystery but behind
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: what caused that and like intrigue of all these different
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: factions trying to run the city. It's it's really cool.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: It's really cool, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And I play kind of a a spy character, so
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: she's she's like a musician by day and then like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a get her.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: A gopher at night, So she's who you go to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: when you need something.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because there there are two infiltrators
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in game, mine and someone else, and the other one
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: has a lot more of like thought behind hers, whereas
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: like my character is a lot more. You have a job,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I need some money, I can get you the information.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I don't really care about it, you know, like so
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: h it is. It is really interesting seeing how those
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: two characters are different and how we're going to interact
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: with each other. Because we actually wrote like a it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in my character history. It hasn't come up in our
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: in either of our one on ones because her one
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on one dropped yesterday yesterday. But we we've met each
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: other in the past, so I'm very much looking forward
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to it. It's a lot of fun. It's a really
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: amazing group of people and it'll be I think the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: fun thing is also seeing how we grow as a table,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: because there are always some hiccups when you start with
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: people you've never gamed with before, as you feel out
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: each other's styles and and get a flow going. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: so like we are starting level one in this world,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: so learning how the world works. It's got like a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: really cool crafting system and a really cool influence system,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: which is is unique to this game as opposed to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a normal five E game, which is what we're based on.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's it's just been a lot of
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun to explore the world
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: so far. But all so, when I watch my stuff
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I do because I'm an actor, I always like I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: always have to stop myself from nitpicking and going, oh
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I should have done this, Oh I could have done that,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: because it's improv and you can't.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You can't mean. This is the same reason why I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: don't do live improv shows, because I get too critical
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: about what I chose versus what I didn't choose, And
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that's just antithetical to the spirit of improv, right, Like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the spirit of improv is you go with your first
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: choice and you commit to it, and you know you
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: trust your fellow performers to support your choices and to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: add new choices that will be interesting, and you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: when it works, it's great, and when it doesn't work,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: no one remembers except for the people who did it, right, Yeah, and.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You got to tell yourself, no one else cares. It's fine.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It just isn't going to be a memorable moment. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's so hard because I think especially for you and I,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: because we're both a little bit of a perfect we've
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: got perfection.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's why I prefer sketch comedy to improv. For me,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I love watching improv, doing improv. I just love doing
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: workshops because then you're just having fun with your friends.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: But when you're performing, you're like, oh, now I have
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to actually entertain people who paid to see me.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like, there's this balance when you do improv.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we need to get to what you're watching,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: but there's this balance where you know a lot of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: times they're like, when you act, ignore the audience, right, Like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: unless it's they're laughing, and you need to wait for
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: them to stop to say your next line. When you're
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: doing improv, there is a little bit of like, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I struggled this with this back when we did improv,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Like you have to listen to the audience because every
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: audience is different in what amuses them, and you want
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to try to pick up on what they're laughing at
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and meet that audience where they're at for each show.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: That's it's a part of the gig. But then you
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: listen and then you you can get into and too
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: did they laugh at that? Oh no, they didn't laugh.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: What am I doing? Hah?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But like, the best improvisers I've seen also will
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like if there's a like, let's say the audience is
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: rowdy or whatever, the best ones I've seen have been
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: able to incorporate that in a way that doesn't encourage
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the rowdiness, but is able to acknowledge it and build
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: on that. So, for example, I've seen improv shows where
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: maybe someone makes a really bad pun and someone in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the audience yells out boo, and they're like, Oh, that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: dang ghost is back or whatever, and then they'll like
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: mime shutting a window to say, I'm acknowledging that you
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: did that, but now I'm also signaling to you to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: not do it again.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I like that in like actual
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: place too that I've watched whenever they go to like
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a live audience. Abria, I guard did this when she
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was doing like the Battle the Waterer Skate three actual
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: place with the cast, and she's like, oh, we're talking,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: are we Like? We'll acknowledge it and joke with it
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and then be like, okay.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Let's settle settle down, children, let us continue our lesson. Yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: all right, should I should I talk a little bit
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: about what I watched since the last time, please.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I have abliviated on one.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: So early in September, I went on a Disney cruise
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: with my partner and some friends of ours. We've already
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: planned our next one. I am plotting to kidnap Ariel
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and bring her on it. So we'll see if that works.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That is, she knows, so this is not a surprise
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to her.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't know if that's going to work
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: out or not. But we're aiming for There might be
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: another stretch next September where we we have we have
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: a long quiet stretch because we'll be on the high
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: seas anyway. Because it was a Disney cruise, obviously they
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: had a lot of Disney entertainment there, and I took
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the opportunity on a couple of of you know times
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: where it was downtime to watch a couple of Disney
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: films I had not seen. They're not new, but I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: had not seen them. So one of them was Strange World,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: which was the film that kind of came and went
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: without it much fanfare, and it was one of those
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that led to that discussion of you know, original material
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: versus another adaptation of pre existing IP and that you
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: know audiences don't want original stories. Well, I watched Strange World,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: let me tell you. I liked the first half of it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and then the second half kind of fell flat for me.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I felt like they were doing too much, like there
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: were too many little stories slash messages that they were
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: trying to convey, and that it would have been better
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: had it been more simplified. I thought it was interesting,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but yeah, the longer that movie went on, the less
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I like the first half a lot, though,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and then I also watched El e O, which was
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the Pixar film about the young boy who wants to
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: be abducted by aliens. It's now available on Disney Plus,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: so anyone with Disney Plus can watch it. Yeah. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: thought that was fine. I put it in the middle
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of Pixar films like it's not it's not bad, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it is entertaining. But it also it didn't impact me
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the way a lot of other Pixar movies do. You know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: for a while, I thought Pixar just had a direct
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: line to the part of my brain that makes me cry.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: They did not engage that in this movie. It was
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: but it was okay, Like I was entertained. I also,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: like I said, I've watched Peacemaker up to the most
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: recent episode, which I still need to watch and probably
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: will once we're done recording, and I got into I
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: got into a binging session with the the sitcom Superstore,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: which came and went. It's I think it had six
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: seasons and it's done. I really was largely unaware of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: this show because I don't watch broadcast television very much,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: but it was starting like little clips of it were
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: getting served up to me on YouTube recommendations, and it
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: was enough for me to go, well, that's Mark McKinney
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: from Kids in the Hall and I like him, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: he's playing a really weird character with like a muppet
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like voice. And there's America Ferrara and I like her
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: and she's great, and I decided to check it out.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So I started watching it and I'm now up through.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm into season three, and these are American seasons, right,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: so it's like twenty plus episodes per season. So I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: only just started like last week, so I've been blasting
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: through those. They are only half an hour, but it's
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I won't say it's the greatest thing ever, but I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: will say that when it hits, it hits hard and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I laugh really hard.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Is that sorry? Go ahead?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: No? Please? Please?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Oh? You go ahead? You go ahead, I'll ask after Okay.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: All I was going to say is that one of
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: my favorite things about the show is that in between
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: scenes where characters are progressing the plot, and usually there's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: like at least two plots going on, right, there's kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of an A story in a B story. Sometimes there's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: more than just A and B. But in between those scenes,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: they'll just do little shots of inside the store where
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: either customers or staff or both are being weird, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it's the kind of stuff you could imagine seeing if
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you went to say a Walmart in the suburbs of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a major city. So like there might be just a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: shot of a child sitting on the floor eating open
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: containers of yogurt, like, and it's just like a little
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: establishing shot showing a weird moment in the store. It
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the story, just there to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: be kind of a buffer between scenes. Those buffers are
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: quickly becoming some of my favorite moments in the show
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because some of them are just so weird. There's one
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that was a direct reference to the Shining that I loved.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I love that. That is so cool. Superstore
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: is one of the ones that I also have seen
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: clips for and have been meaning to try to watch,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: so I might now that you have recommended it. My
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: question was if there was a UK equivalent, because I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: do find a lot of the shows that I end
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: up liking started in the UK first. But I answered
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: my own question, and there's it didn't start there first.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were watching this, you could totally imagine it,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: except that it I mean, it does have the very
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: American big box store thing, right, because Superstore is essentially
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: like Walmart. It's really a Walmart stand in and or
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: a Target something like that, and that's very much more
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of an American thing than a European or British thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And they even address stuff like its impact on the community,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: because you find out that the manager of the store
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that his family owned a hardware store, like a family
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: owned and operated hardware store that was totally put out
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a business by this conglomerate. But now he's like the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: manager of the store, and and he's the type of
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: character who doesn't think critically at all, so he doesn't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: even he doesn't even realize that this store essentially ruined
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: his family. Wow, it's it's it's a fun series. Like
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: there are characters who become a bit much, but that's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: kind of the nature of comedy.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, for sure, that is really cool. Thank
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you for sharing about that, Like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: gonna watch Superstore now, please it's fun. Yeah, we are
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: now thirty minutes into our episode.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah we should we should start tightening things up by
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: talking about stuff for less time.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about it for more time.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: We just might need to break the episode into two pieces.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: If we do that, I ain't doing that. It's just
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be a long episode.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, So we'll go on to thirty seconds
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and less or and less or less, which you know
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: is funny because originally when we started it, Jonathan was like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you have to go thirty seconds because we were putting
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: music in there.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I still do put music in there.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you no longer yell if I go under
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: No, because like I like, I'll just have the music
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: continue and then like it'll continue into the next segment,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: and then I'll just PLoP the same music track in
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: again as soon as the first one is over. So yeah,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: like if it just becomes if we ever get to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: one segment where the music literally never stops, it means
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that each time we both managed to stay under thirty
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: seconds for every single jury, it has not yet happened.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I just I thought it was funny that we say
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds or last, and I used to get yelled
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: at for the or less part. Ye yelled AT's a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: strong term, that's all. So the first one, doo, dude,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: is that we are hitting Star Treks sixtieth Anniverse three
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and so there's a whole bunch
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of stuff that is happening for that. It's going to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: be a year long celebration, including a parade, a cruise.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: They're dropping the new Star Trek or sorry, Starfleet Academy show,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: The Strange New World Season four, which is the final season,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: will probably come out. They've they're dropping a Star Trek
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: con podcast, which might already be out. There's a new
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: preschool animated series called Star Trek Scouts coming out, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: like so much more so and then merches on sale.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: But you can find out all about this year long
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: celebration at star Trek dot com slash sixty.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: So Ariel stole mine because I am talking about the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: YouTube series Star Trek Scouts that this out. Oh no,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: it's totally okay. It came out September eighth. I watched
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a four minute episode. Personally, I think the series is
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: highly irresponsible because who would put children in charge of
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: planetary defense? And one of those kids is a Vulcan cyborg?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And how does a Romulan rubber ducky deflect an incoming asteroid?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: This isn't logical, but it is cute.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Does that really happen.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, that all happens in the first episode.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: That's for preschoolers. Wow. Okay.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: The incoming asteroid, by the way, is a bar of soap.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay. So it's very like Muppet Babies.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's very it's very imaginative and silly and colorful.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Okay. Cute. In other not Star Trek related news, unless
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it's very tangential, Sean Aston has been elected the president
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of sag After for the next two years. You know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: he seems like a nice guy, so I hope and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I hope that he has the interests of uh, the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: union best interests at heart. Fun thing I learned because
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of this his mom was also a sag After president.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. His mom was Piggy Lee No,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Patty Duke m I didn't know that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And his adopted father is John Aston from from the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Adams Family. He was Gomez in the Adams Family TV.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Series Gotcha Very cool?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Very cool? Yeah, nice guy by the way, met him once.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Nice guy. Uh. Spaceball's two production is moving and we
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: recently got a look at a cast photo during a
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: table read. And the cast includes original Spaceball actors like
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Bill Pullman, Rick Moranis, Daffy's Niga, George Weiner, and Mel Brooks,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: as well as newcome like Josh Gadd, Kiki Palmer, Lewis Pullman,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: and Anthony Kerrigan. So here's hoping the crew creates a
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: film that's even funnier than the original.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: In less funny news, open AI is being used in
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a full length animated film, The Chad Nelson, the creative
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: specialists behind open AI, wanted to started designing characters three
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: years ago with the Dolly Image generation tool. Wants to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: show that AI can make films much less expensive and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: much quicker, but again, it takes the art out of it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I have a problem with AI where it's it's rare
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to it's rare to get an AI image that isn't
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: pulling from somebody else's art work or you know, property style. Yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: although Dolly in theory is correcting that, they're putting in
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: tools in the newest version where you can't request art
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: in the style of a certain artist, or if an
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: art to see their art being used, they can request
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that it is removed and not used.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how well that'll work. I just you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I understand that you can use AI as a tool
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and still be creative. I just I don't think that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: making an entire movie out of AI is that I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: don't like it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, something else we don't like is that Tom
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Holland got injured. He got a concussion while he was
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: filming a stunt for the next Spider Man film. There's
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: conflicting information on what actually happened and how bad it was.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: One supposed source told Rob Shooter that the accident was
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: quote unquote worse than what the studio would admit. Meanwhile,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: The Daily Beast cited an unnamed source who said it
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: actually wasn't very bad at all. So either this incident
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: has put the entire film in jeopardy or everything is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: fine and it's staying on schedule. Either way, I think
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the important message is get well soon.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Tom, Yeah, and also get well soon Henry Cavill. Honestly,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he might be, because this is from September eleventh. He
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: got injured doing sword fighting training in preparation for the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: upcoming Highlander movie. Unfortunately, the big news from this is
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that they were meant to start filming in September in Scotland,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and now filming has been pushed back to early next year. Now.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's because of the breadth of the injury Henry Cavill sustained,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: or if that is just because of scheduling everybody around
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the changes.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Good news for fans who are waiting for Spider Man
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Beyond the Spider Verse. The third entry in this franchise
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: has been moved up one full week. I mean that's earlier,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So that's cool. The new release date for the film
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: is listed as June eighteenth, twenty twenty seven. It originally
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was June twenty fifth. Considering that the second film ended
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: on a cliffhanger, or so I'm told, I haven't actually
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: seen it yet, any news of the film coming out
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: just the a little earlier should be greeted with cheers.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, the second film was very good. I do recommend it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We're getting a new comic book series based off of
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a very old comic book character, The Phantom. Phantom twenty
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: twenty four A New Shadow is coming out soon. It's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: written by Alex Sigira of Star Wars and Michael Morricai
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of Dick Tracy. Because it's a noir. If y'all didn't know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: with a really not there was like a nineties early
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: two thousands movie of it that was just dumb thought.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But it's a fun take in the art looks.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Good, So yeah, I actually liked the movie. But all right, well, yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: if you've listened to us for a while, like over
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the last two minutes, you should know we're not big
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fans of generative AI, and I am not super thrilled
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: about this next story. In fact, I'm actually kind of
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: miffed about it. So, according to the Hollywood Reporter, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: a I holographic likeness of stan Lee will appear at
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Comic Con and will be available to
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: hold short conversations with attendees if they cough up the
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: fee that will be charged for the privilege of chatting
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: with or even taking a photo with this AI version
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: of stan Lee. I think this is gross, But the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: event happens this weekend, so I guess we'll learn more
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: about it for the next episode.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't like that either.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, can you imagine? Okay, I know
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: it's three seconds.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Or less, and I know we're at the end, so
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: we can go on as long as you want.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go off, King, But like we go to conventions, Ariel,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: you and I we've gone to lots of science fiction conventions.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine walking through the Hall of Fame and
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: having Ai Howard holographic versions of actors, whether those actors
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: have passed on or not. So that let let's say
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Christopher Lee, so that you can have a little conversation
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: with Christopher Lee about J. R. R. Tolkien and Lord
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: of the Rings, because you know, Lee was a fanatic
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: about those books, but even before he played Sadrumann in
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: the in the Peter Jackson films, like that just feels
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: wrong to me.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, you know I've I've worked Dragon con
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: at least, and I know that actors oftentimes do conventions
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: as a part of their income. So one, I hate
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that they're doing that because no, like, get the real
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: actor and if they can't make it, oh well don't. Also, like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: if it's AI, then they aren't just asking the actor
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: questions that will be put in, so it's not even
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the actors full full or the person's full, truthful opinion
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: about whatever you're asking them.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I hate it, Yeah, right, because like I have heard
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: AI versions of I've heard AI versions of people I know,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: like personally know, I've heard the AI version of their
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: voice and knowing the capacity for AI to go let's say,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: quote unquote offscript, you know, where they the AI will
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: say something that the actual person never would have said
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in real life. That's a major concern for me because
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I mean I did I did an episode of tech
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Stuff back before obviously before I retired from it, where
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I had chat GPT create a technology podcast and one
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: of the things it did was it invented experts and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: had them give quotes. So like, if it can invent
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: experts that are that don't exist and put words into
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: these fictional people's mouths, it could do the same for
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: a real person and give this person opinions or points
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of view that do not reflect their actual thoughts at all,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And that to me is irresponsible and just not human.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I actually would have
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: issue with it if they were doing it for something
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: that was fictional, like Turtle Talk with Crush at Disney World,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: for instance, because that is an actor. You sit in
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the audience and you interact with the cartoon character of Crush,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the turtle from Finding Nemo, but behind it is an
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: actor who is listening to the audience and responding and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: puppeteering and that is an art.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, As the brother of a professional puppeteer,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I certainly feel very strongly about that as well. Also, Ariel,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: remind me when the show is over, I'll send you
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a link and you can hear me speak in fluent Spanish.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: But it's not it's my voice, but it's not me.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like like that either, But
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: learn another language, not now, I'm kidding.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, you wait around long enough. They'll
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: also be versions in Portuguese, and yeah, I'll send I'll
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: send you a link because it is I'm in charge
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: of working with these files. And to hear myself speaking
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: a language I do not understand gave me an out
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: of body experience.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, my goodness, that is so weird. Like
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. You can't always I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: am grout your way through a foreign language.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, certainly not. I all right, let's talk
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit. We only have a couple of things
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: in our stuff that doesn't fit category, partly because I deleted,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: like I think, originally we had close to twelve in here,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and I deleted almost all of them and I moved
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I moved one to our regular lineup because I was like, no,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: this does fit. Yeah. Yeah, but we have a couple
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: that we wanted to mention that we feel are interesting.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: So the first up is a documentary about a comedic
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: actor out of Canada who passed away far too young.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And why don't you tell us about that, Ariel?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's called John Candy. I like me, and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it is about John Candy, which you know is kind
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of geeky. He's done, he did in his lifetime a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of fun projects, including Spaceballs. He
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: played barf.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Correct yep, yep, and he was also in Splash yep.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: A really nice guy, it seems. I didn't mean. I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: never got the opportunity to meet him, but everybody in
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the documentary seems to think that he was a really
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: nice guy who battled with depression and honestly the people pleasing,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: which struck home to me because that is something that
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I struggle with. And in the trailer for the documentary,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: they say, in the entertainment world, you cannot be a
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: people pleaser. It will destroy you.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you'll just give and give and give until
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: there's nothing left.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that seems to be what happened with John Candy.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: But watching the documentary was both in not the documentary,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: the trailer for it, I haven't watched it was both
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: incredibly heartwarming and like made me tear up.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The actual documentary comes out on Amazon Prime Video
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: on October tenth. The title is a reference to a
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: line John Candy has in Planes, Trains and Automobiles where
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: he says, I like me, my wife likes me. It's
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: actually one of the most emotional moments in that comedy.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Like that's a very silly comedy, but it's a silly
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: comedy that you can actually go to YouTube and watch
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: reaction videos of people watching it. It makes people tear up.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. Here's the thing though, Like he
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: plays goofy characters, but there's always like this this heart
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in it, Like even in at least in the ones
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: that I've seen. I'm gonna admit, like I wasn't like
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a John Candy a file, Like I didn't go to
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: watch everything that he ever did, but I like the
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: stuff I saw him, and like even in Home Alone,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Like he's a goofy character, but there's just like this
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: really nice, like heartfelt miss to him.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say that in Splash, there's not so
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: much because he's kind of a sleeze ball in that movie.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: But he's a very entertaining sleeze ball.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. Like I said, I was never
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like a huge, oh my gosh, John Candy fan, but
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate his work and I will be watching
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: this documentary.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have a trailer for a series, an
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: eight episode series that will debut on October twelfth on HBO.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: It is titled The Chair Company was created by Tim Robinson,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: who also stars in it, and Zach kanaan Uh And
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: it's really kind of mysterious. Like if you read the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: log line for this thing, it essentially talks about how
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the character that Tim Robinson plays comes across a massive
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: conspiracy after a quote an embarrassing workplace incident in the quote,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and like that's the log line you find everywhere anywhere
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: you look this up. That's what it says. Like it
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's Deadline or Hollywood Reporter or Wikipedia,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And none of it explains what the incident is.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: The trailer doesn't explain what the incident is.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Or what the conspiracy is either yeah, like, but it
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: does look it does look intriguing. So like when I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: read the log line, because here's the thing, I put
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: this one in our lineup. I don't know if Jonathan
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was going to as well, but like the video, the
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: trailer for it just kept popping up. I couldn't escape it.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fine, I will, I will watch it. I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: read the log line first, save myself some time, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and then I watch it. I'm like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: at first I thought it was like, Okay, he works
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: at a chair company and these chairs have a fault
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: about them that will injure people, and he's found it
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: out and he's going to like bo yeah, yeah, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that is not it at all.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this it looks Yeah, it's wild. I don't
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I gotta admit it has me intrigued. And I have
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: not watched a lot. I'm familiar, or at least I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: aware of Tim Robinson's work, but I haven't watched much
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: of his stuff. I know that he is kind of
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: an avant garde comedian, almost on the level of like
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: an Andy Kaufman kind of thing, and that people who
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: who dig his stuff really dig it. I just haven't
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: watched any of it. I also don't know if I have.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm the type of person who
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: could watch it without cringing myself into non existence, but
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely curious about this one. Yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Also I don't think he is, But shouldn't Tim
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Robinson be the son of Tim Robbins.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: He's well, he's clearly not, but the name would at
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: least make sense.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's it and our stuff that doesn't fit
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: two things that I am very interested in watching, in watching,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: probably the two things I was most interested in watching
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that were on the list of twenty things that I
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: exploded our lineup with.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: That's okay, Like we still have other areas that are exploded.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I Now I am going to move over into the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Jonathan's Horror Hutch segment, which I typically try to keep
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to three intrigues. This time it's four because we were
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: gone for so long before I jump into this aerial.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Did you watch the trailers for any of these movies?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I put three of them on the lineup,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: so yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if you had watched them or not,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: or if you just grabbed the link and threw it
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: So I today, So I have watched them all. The
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Carpenter's son in the Astronaut I fully watched before I
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: stuck on here the Ed Gain story, I had to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: stop and then no, that's not for you. It's not
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: for you. That's yeah, I can tell you right now.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: That's out of all of them, that's the one you
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: definitely should not watch. Yeah. So I did today flip
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: back through it to remind myself, but I didn't watch
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: it fully through. I just tried to catch some points
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: in it so that i'd have Okay.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll cover these really quickly and if you have
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: anything to add, certainly please chime in. So the first
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: trailer is for a Netflix original called Monster The Ed
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Gaen Story. So this true story. Ed Gain was arrested
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: on multiple terrible, disgusting charges that ranged from grave robbing
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: to cannibalism to murder. His story is one that has
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: influenced numerous other stories. They're those who argue that Psycho
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: was influenced by ed Geen's story, although the author of
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: that novel says that wasn't the case. Texas Chainsaw Massacres
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: another one, Silence of the Lambs. Buffalo Bill is very
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: clearly modeled after ed Geen. So this is a dramatization,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: which is even that it's putting it to generously. This
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: is a glorification of ed Geen's story, and I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: it looks. This is my opinion. I think it looks
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: salacious and awful, and the filmmakers should be ashamed of themselves.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It is celebrating someone who genuinely hurt and killed people
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: and cause misery, and while that might be fascinating, to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: turn it into entertainment, to me turns my stomach. I'm
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: not a prudish person. I love horror stories. I love
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: some of the horror stories that were inspired by this
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: real life person. But I think that a movie that's
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: supposedly depicting this real life person's experience elevated to like
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: a Hollywood kind of depiction is gross. That's my I
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: have a line, and this film appears to cross it
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: based upon the trailer.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: So I have a question based on that. Do do
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you have issues with other movies based on serial killers?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I often do, because I feel like it glorifies the
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: killer and like romanticizes things, like even the ones that
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: are trying to honor the victims. I feel like they
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: often don't do that well enough, and it ends up
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: being more of a spectacle about look how broken this
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: human was, and not let's consider the life of this
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: person that was cut short because of this broken individual. Right. So,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I do have issue with a lot unless it's like
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: a documentary where it's trying to take more of a historic,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know, and exploratory point of view. But this doesn't
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: feel like that to me. This feels more like turning
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: it into entertainment, which is fundamentally disturbing to me.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I I can't say that anything I watched in the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: trailer was entertaining. It's gotten amazing cast is what I
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: will say. But but I can I can understand that
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: because I was like, this is a horrible person who
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: did horrible, horrible things that make my stomach like turn.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I I don't, I don't. I feel like a bad
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: person for saying like, I don't need to know that
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: this person had any sympathetic characteristics to them. I'm sure
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that they did. I'm sure there was something in their
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: brain that made them think that they weren't all horrible,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: But I yeah, I don't. I don't like excusing that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: behavior on any front.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Well, and there's there's depictions of like dreamlike sequences in
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: that trailer that either they're like you know, hallucinations or
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: dreams or psychosis or whatever it may be, and they're
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: so highly produced, right, Like, to me, that's that's the thing.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: It's the production, like it's the it's the lighting and
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the camera angles and the music and the pacing that
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: you see in the trailer that all to me seems
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to be presenting it as this is meant to shock
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and entertain you. And I just can't get behind that
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: because real life people died because of this person.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's not It is a story that
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: should be a lesson on how not how to help
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: people so stuff like that doesn't happen again, and not
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: something you watch for entertainment. I fully agree.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Now, I also will say, this is my opinion, I
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: don't judge anyone who wants to watch this. It's I'm
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: not being judgmental. If if you're someone who's like, I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: really want to see this, like it's spooky season, I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: want to see this please by all means it comes
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: out on Netflix on October third, I will not be
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: one of those people watching it, and not just because
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I often forget that I have Netflix.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, I do want to say, because I feel gross
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: for saying it, I understand that a lot of people
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: who do horrible things are dealing with a lot of
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: stuff and maybe didn't have the help they needed to
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: avoid it. So I don't want to say that people
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: who do horrible things can't be sympathetic and that you
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: can't try to understand them. I just it goes back
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: to like that you don't need to make a bad
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: guy good guy thing.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel like that's the case based on
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: this trailer. I don't feel like this movie is trying
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: to understand anyone. But that's that's again my interpretation, and
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: it's based upon a very limited exposure to this movie.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: So I just I just had to clarify totally.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to something much more lighthearted. Let's
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: talk about a biblical horror movie that's based off of
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: based off an apocryphal book of the Bible. So I
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: am not a I'm not a religious person. I'm going
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: to get that out here. I do have a knowledge
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: of apocryphal books of the Bible because I am a medievalist,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: and that's when a lot of this stuff was getting
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: hashed out was which books do you include in the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Bible and which books get rejected? Because that that was
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a whole thing for those who don't know, there was
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: a whole process of consideration of different gospels and books
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: of the Bible and which ones does the church acknowledge
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: as being real versus ones that aren't. And so this
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: particular book of the Bible is an apocryphal book. It
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: was never accepted into the Bible. It is called the
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Infancy Gospel of Thomas, and it covers a span of
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Jesus's life that otherwise does not get covered in the Bible,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that is his childhood, and this gospel does not put
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Jesus in the best light. It kinda is like the
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: description you will often hear is it's the story of
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: a young boy discovering that essentially he's got superpowers and
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: he uses them for selfish ends, including ones that end
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: up leading to harm and death for other people. So
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: it's dark. This movie The Carpenter's Son is based off
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: that apocryphal book of the Bible and stars Nicholas Frickin'
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: cage as Joseph, although I think he's only referred to
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: as Father in the movie, and that Jesus is referenced
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: as the Boy. And it's a very short teaser that's available,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: but it does show Nicholas Cage having a dickens of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a time keeping a handle on his son. I was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: not offended by this, but I know that there are
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of Christians, maybe not a lot, there are
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: some Christians who are concerned and offended by this, and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell them that they're wrong in that.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that. I think there are other
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: things to be offended by that are real and affecting
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: real people in the world that you need to really
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: focus on.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I fully agree as a person of faith, I this
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: movie is not trying to necessarily say this is true.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: It's a scary movie based off of a source material.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a horror movie. It's a horror movie.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: It's biblical in nature. Yeah, it's like if you did
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: a horror movie based off of any other religion or
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: even mythology, Like you're taking you're taking source material as
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: your inspiration, but it's not meant to be Hey, this
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: is this is what your faith really is? Like I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: don't think that's what the movie is saying the movie
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: gets released on November fourteenth, I would not be surprised
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: if we see like protests and stuff at least from
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: small some groups related to this. But honestly, I don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: think it's worth doing. To me, this looks like one
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of those Nicholas Cage movies that that it's fun to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: know about, but there's no need to go see it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I put it in the line up because
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: it was I was like, Nicholas Cage is doing a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: religious whrror, which when I say it out loud, doesn't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: sound surprising, but for some reason when I watched it,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: it was surprising to me. But yeah, I'm like, if
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a story isn't for you, don't watch it. That is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: That is my entire opinion on all of entertainment. Yeah,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: like some stuff, some stuff, I'm like, this is unnecessary.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like it.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: But it makes me think that if this were in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: that episode of Community where Abed is at the class
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: about is Nicholas Cage and good actor or not? This
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: would have been This would have been one of the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: ones falling in the not category. Yeah, but yeah, I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'll watch it if it comes to streaming.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I don't have any plans on catching this unless it's
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: just like if it ends up becoming like a cult
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: classic kind of movie, you know, a Llah The Room
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: or something maybe then or like even the Nicholas Cage
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: remake of The Wicker Man, which is almost unwatchable.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I've never seen that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Oh it's so that's the one, not the Bees.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very aware of the bees from it.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: It got very very much memed to Heaven and back.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, Nicholas Cage does a lot of movies,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: not all of them become cult classics. I would say,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I think the last one that I watched of his
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: that fell into that, that I actually watched that fell
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: into that category was The Color Out of Space. I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: watched Renfield, which I want to watch that one.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: It's okay. I wanted to like it more because, like,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I like Nicholas Holt a lot, and and I even
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: like I thought I thought Nicholas Cage was fun. I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: thought he was terribly miscast, but I also thought he
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: was tons of fun. Like I didn't buy him in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: the role of Dracula, but I loved him in the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: role of Dracula.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: A vampire before that's true.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: That is true. All right, I got two more to
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: get through real quick, unless you have anything else you
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: wanted to add about about the carpenter's son. No, okay.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Next up, we've got a movie titled Vicious. Vicious reminds
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: me of some YouTube horror shorts that I've seen in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the past, not that I think this was based off one,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: but uh, I think there's one. I think it's called
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: The Box, and it kind of reminded me of that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: because it is one where there's a box that has
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: a sinister element to it, although there's not a wet
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: naked guy trying to crawl out of it, unlike in
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the short YouTube short in the Box. Vicious is a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: film in which a young woman is living alone, I guess,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: and an old lady who seems to be disoriented shows
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: up at her door, so she invites the woman into
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: her house, and then the old woman says that the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: young woman is essentially cursed and gives her this box
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: and says she has to put in something that she needs,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: something that she loves, and something that she hates in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the box before time runs out or the young woman
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: is going to die. And I think it's an interesting
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: concept for a supernatural horror movie. However, the trailer just
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything for me. Like, I like the concept.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: If you gave me the concept, I'd be like, ha,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: that's intriguing. But as I was watching, I was like, Oh,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: for some reason, none of this is working on me.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: And that might just be me, I don't know, but
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't find it disturbing or scary. Maybe because when
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the woman does put something in the box and she's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: trying to she's hoping that it fulfills the criteria. She
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: gets her phone just gets massive huge text on it
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: saying wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong in read letters, and I'm like, well,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: that's not scary, that's just dumb. But again, that's just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: my opinion. The movie comes out October tenth, it's video
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: on demand when it comes out, maybe the whole film
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: comes across better, but yeah, this trailer, Like, I love
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: horror movies, but this just did not feel like it
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: was that it wasn't hitting my buttons.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: So the reason that I didn't watch his trailers because
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I started to and I got bored and distracted.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I feel that reaction. Super Like, that reaction
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I think is warranted. It didn't work for me. And
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: your threshold for horror is much lower than mine, right,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: and you were bored?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the worst The worst part is at some
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: point in the trailer the girl spits out a key
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and I was eating yogurt and I was like, well,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: this is not a good combination.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she regurgitates a key, which just made me think
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: of I watch a lot of like commentary stuff online.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: It made me think of a line from a Red
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Letter Media video where it's like, oh, I had a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: night last night. But yeah, other other than that, it
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: really just didn't do much for me. And part of
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: it is also that it feels like it's trading in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of tropes that have just been done to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: death in horror, and that's part of the problem. And finally,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: the last big thing in Jonathan's horror hutch is The Astronaut,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: which is kind of a science fiction slash horror movie.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: It stars Kate Mara who plays an astronaut who comes
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: back to Earth but like it's kind of like almost
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: like a crash landing and her her suit has been
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: damaged and like it's just a miracle that she even
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: survived the return trip and NASA sets her up in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: a secluded house so that she can recover and be observed.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Worst thing to do.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, secluded house away from everybody, including her family.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: She has a husband and a child, and like they
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: explain that very casually in some exposition dump that she's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: going to potentially experience certain symptoms like having a fever, hallucinations,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So there's like definitely an element
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: of unreliable narrator built into this, where you know, I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: think we're meant to question whether or not what she
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: experiences is really happening versus in her mind. She becomes
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: increasingly convinced that there that something came back with her,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: something in space came back with her, and that she's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: now being stalked by this thing. And again, it feels
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: to me like it's trading in well worn cliches and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: tropes without adding anything particularly interesting. It Honestly, it feels
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: like a very slick version of a movie that you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: might expect to have seen in nineteen fifty like in
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties B movie sci fi film, or maybe a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Twilight Zone episode.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so here's the thing, Like, I'm not
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: does it grip me? No? Like I'm not like, oh
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: my god, this is so cool, I have to see it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: But I do enjoy those kind of stories. So if
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I'm looking to spend a couple of hours in some entertainment,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: it's not the worst option. I will say, like there
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: is one, and like it's kind of believable because if
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you're there's radiation in out of space, so certainly if
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: you crash land and your suit is damaged, you might
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: have some of those side effects.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: There is one moment where I'm like, well, this is
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: just completely a hallucination because she's just thinking of Jurassic Park.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I know exactly what you because it's
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: it's the velociraptor mode in the kitchen with the two kids,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: right I had I had exactly the same reaction. I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: was like, well, someone watched Jurassic Park just before they
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: decided to shoot this scene.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Or before they decided to go into outer space, or
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: while they were in outer space, and then they crash
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: landed and now they're having hallucinations. Yeah, that might be
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: a part of the story.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Thank gonness, she didn't watch Home alone or else. When
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: NASA went to check on her, they would hit by
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: all these traps and stuff.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: And you know, as we as we've learned, those are
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: actually much more dangerous than the movie.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Let's on, she's just living on cheese pizza because she
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: also watched Home Alone too.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Lost in New York cheese pizza.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: So why Ariel? I want cheese pizza so bad? Okay,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: So The Astronaut comes out October seventeenth, And I know
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I kind of poo pooed over all of these to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: some extent, and I wish I hadn't. I wish there
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: were ones I could say I loved. But I feel like,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: if you need to see a horror movie that's really good,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: go see Weapons It's so good. Or Sinners, God's on streaming.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Sinners is so good. There are you can.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: You can rent weapons now if you can't get to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the theater, you can't. It's it's gonna movie ticket.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: The movie, not the not the actual thing.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Please don't rent actual weapons unless you're trained to use
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: them and you're using them to make a movie. Yeah,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and even then, get prop weapons because that's much safer
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: as someone who has had to get stitches because a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: weapon was not made safe.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: For five you got whacked on the hand.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, you can rent the movie weapons on
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I think Amazon and Apple Now it's about twenty bucks,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: which is the cost of a ticket at the theater.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you can't take it sounds together to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: although it is the kind of movie that benefits from
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: really paying attention, Like I would not want to be
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: in a group of people chatting away while trying to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: watch this movie, because I think the movie is better
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: than that and that it deserves it is slow moving, though,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I will say that, but there there. I said this
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: when I saw it. I remember telling you this, Ariel,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: there's a sound cue in that movie that was more
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: effective than most scary visuals that you get in most
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: horror movies these days. Just that sound cuet. It literally
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: got the audience I was in to all go ah.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: That is amazing. I wish I had been able to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: get to the theater to see it sooner, because I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: think I would have appreciated it in a theater with
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: a group of people, kind of like when I watched
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I know this is not scary to anybody else, But
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: when I watched M Night Shyamalan signs at the movie
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: theater with my best friend's brother and we were in
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the front row and I stood up and screamed when
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: the alien ran across the TV screen at the Trophan's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: birthday party whatever it was. But uh, like yeah, I
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: actually plan on either if it's still in the theaters,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: going to see weapons at the theater, or watching it
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: at home this weekend.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: It's I want to hear what you think about it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: I hope I haven't talked it up too much, but
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I thought it was one of the best, like best
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: horror films since, like Sinners or if you go back further,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Although its horrors, but like the Menu, it's not really
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: horror movie. I guess it's kind of more like a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: thriller slash dark comedy. But those are the films that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: and I saw. I was lucky to see all three
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: of those in the theater. Those are the films that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: I still think about. Whereas most of the things we
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: talk about with the like the genre stuff, it feels
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: like the kind of stuff that's on Shutter. It's not
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: to say that they're bad, but they're not memorable. They
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: don't stick with you the way these other movies have
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: sticked with me. Are stuck.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I should say that is what I've heard
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: about weapons across the board from from of all different
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you you have friends who have different tastes,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: and everybody has a different review on a movie. Right
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: across the board. The people I know who have seen
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: weapons have really enjoyed it. When I got to read
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the bit of the script that I got to read
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: when I auditioned for it, I really enjoyed it. There
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: there are only I like auditioning for horror movies. I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: like doing horror movies. I think it's the LARPer in me.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's fun, It's it's fun to play in that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: world a little bit. It's harder when I'm watching it
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: because my suspension of disbelief watching a thing makes me
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: always feel like there's something behind me, or I will
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: have or I will have sleep paralysis, and then my
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: brain will use that and that is that is what's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: really frightening to me. Sure it's the thing in the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: dark that I can't see and I can't protect myself
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: from because I can't move. That is that is the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: very basis of my my my fear of horror movie,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: if I really dig down deep. But there have been
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: a few that I have been very fortunate to audition
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: for that. I've just like, yes, I have to see
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: this when it comes out. Weapons was it, I have to,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: but Weapons was like, I think I really want to.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: And so the fact that it's getting such amazing reviews
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: and that you recommend it so much, I I think,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I think I will be terrified, but I will enjoy it.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just just prepare yourself for the fact that it's
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: a slow build like.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: For that.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the first half of that movie, maybe the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: first two thirds is like it's all putting building blocks
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: in place, and then the last third goes Craig Gray. Uh,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I mean in the best way. Yeah.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I love suspense, so and it was just weird as
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: a person who has to spoil movies for anxiety.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: But yes, right, well, beyond suspense, it's also a lot
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: of character buildings so that you understand who these people
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: are and what motivates them. Yeah. So, like that's also
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: an issue with horror movies often is that you don't
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: really get time to learn because that's not what the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: movie's purpose is. Like a lot of the straight up
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: horror movies, characters only exist to be killed off in
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: inventive ways, right, So you don't need to know any
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: In fact, you probably don't want to know more about
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: them because the visceral thrill is seeing what inventive way
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: this person's going to be killed off, as like whether
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: that's a slasher film or something like the Final Destination movies.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: That's all Final Destination is. But Weapons is different because
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: it's more like this is a character study note of
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: a single character, but multiple characters and arguably about an
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: entire town. And that to me is really fascinating too.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's I would I would
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: not go so far as to call it a masterpiece,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: but it's a really good film.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Nice and it's not It's definitely not one that Shae
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: could watch.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Correct, Shae could watch it? Oh yeah, Shae could watch it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Uh did I see that with Shae?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I might have, because I know originally you were like,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think she'd want to see this.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Well, because it's because h.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Shay, I'm sorry, we're talking about you on our podcast.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Friend of the Show. Shaye Lee is her no no
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: like Ariel's Big No No is cannibalism or things that
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: involve animal cruelty. Those two things are like on her
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: no No list for Shay. Her no no list is
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: things that involve child endangerment or death. Like that's like automatically,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: like that's just traumatizing to her. And while I will say,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give anything away, but ultimately Weapons
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: is okay for Shaye to watch. She did see it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: with me, because I remember we at least I think
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: she saw it with me. My memory is so bad.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: But we ran into Crispy or the friend you mentioned earlier,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: as he was coming back from having seen it, and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: he was talking about how it would be okay for
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: her to see. And that ended up being a spoiler
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: for me because because she asked him outright and I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to know, and I walked
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: away so that I wouldn't hear because I wanted to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: go in blind. And when I turned around, she was smiling.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, crap, now I know.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I mean. To be fair, I also reached out to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Crispy and asked for and I asked you too, because
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I know you guys have you both have slightly different
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: viewpoints on cinema and you know me very well, and
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: so I've asked for spoilers from both of you.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, let's let's finally segue into what the
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: show is all about. Now that we're an hour and
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: almost an hour and twenty minutes and we can talk
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: about what's on our lineup, and it's a lot, so
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: this will be an epic episode, but to be fair,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: we were gone a long time.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a full month episode. So if
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you need to pause it and come.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Back, yeah, take a buy break, make a snack, you know,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: talk to your family, touch some grass.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying any of you need to, but it
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: is a delightful.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Thing to do. You can also listen to this as
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: you take a walk, so I'm just yeah.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. All right. So the first trailer we
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: have in our actual show notes, which I guess we
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: should stop calling actual show notes at this point, is
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: the Mandalorian and Grogu trailer.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, finally dropped. Yeah, this film's coming out May twenty
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: second next year, twenty twenty six. So I just wanted
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: to get that out of the way. It's the only
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: note I wrote down because I was getting to a
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: point where I was like, I just need to write
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: down the release date and then we'll just talk about
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: what we thought. So Ariel, what was your reaction to
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: watching this trailer? I know what mine was, but I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: don't want to color your perception.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: So I had a mixed reaction because I do like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: The Mandalorian. It's one of the Star Wars properties that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed in recent days. I also enjoyed
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Rogue one, but I'm not a huge fan of and Or.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: But uh.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I, I do feel like with all all three seasons
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: of The Mandalorian that we got, m HM, like it
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: would be like two good episodes, one episode, two good episodes,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: one Met episode. This this feels like the trailer feels
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: like a Met episode with some good episodes mixed in.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you have the same reaction I had, which
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: is that it looks to me like what I suspect
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: it really is, which is a very big budget episode
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: of The Mandalorian. Like it doesn't look like. As I
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: was watching it, I asked myself if this were paired
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: back a bit and it appeared as an episode of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: The Mandalorian, would I think that it fits or do
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: would I sit there and watch it and think, oh,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: this should have been a movie. And I don't know
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: that I would have felt it should have been a movie.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now there are things that I I'm gonna start
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: with the things that I didn't like in the trailer.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: One is I feel like the alien monsters, like the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: creatures that they show, feel a lot more fake. Mm hmm,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, they almost hit me worse than
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: the very obvious CGI creatures in the prequels. There was
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: just something about them that felt disingenuous in.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: The world, like almost cartoonish.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like it didn't fit within the which if
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: it were a Mandalorian and Grogu cartoon probably would have
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: fit fine. But I feel like even in the television
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: show the monsters that they showed creatures that they showed
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: fit better. They felt more believable. Also, I don't know
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: why I didn't like. I didn't like ripped Hut, Ripped
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to the Hut.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking in English, apparently it was.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Just weird to me. Yeah, but like that's I'm sure
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: that they could be muscular in workout, so I shouldn't
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: react that way. But I don't know, it just was weird. However,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I love the moments with Sigourney Weaver they show in
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: the trailer, like just her her level of mom noh
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: was pretty brilliant, and like, there are some things I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: do think work. Some cg I think worked really well
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: in the trailer, like the ataighties. Watching the one fall
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: off the cliff just sparked this like nostalgia happy in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: me for some reason.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: It definitely I like that more than the ad ads
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: that we'll talk about for our next item. But but
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: that's that's coming up. So yeah, I feel pretty much
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: the way you do it. I felt to me like, oh,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: this could have been just an episode of The Mandalorian.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: There's no reason it needs to be a movie. Also,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: like it's falling into that same category as some Marvel
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: films in that sense that if you haven't watched The Mandalorian,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: you would be totally lost watching this movie. You know.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I almost wish that instead they were just creating all
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: news stories in Star Wars where you don't need to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: have had experience watching other properties in order to understand
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: who people are and what's going on. I will say
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: I was reminded how much I love the music of
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: The Mandalorian as I was watching the trailer. That music's great.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know this one comes to.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Theaters right, yeah, May twenty second next time.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: That's what you said. I just I couldn't remember if
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: it was theaters or straight to streaming because my brain
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: decided that part wasn't important to me for some reason,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: even though it is. I don't know if I'll go
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: to the theater for this one, but I will probably
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: catch it on streaming.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a long time since I've watched
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: any Star Wars content. I did not watch the third
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: season of The Mandalorian. I have not watched Obi Wan.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: I've not watched and or or Ahsoka. I haven't watched
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: any of those, so I think they'll In fact, I
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: never watched episode nine. Like I got to episode eight
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, I think I'm
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: done with Star Wars. Except I did watch The Mandalorian
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: and the Book of Bobahet. I watched the first two
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: seasons of Mandalorian and the Book of Bobaheat. I wish
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: I hadn't watched the Book of Boba Fet.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that one was a whiff for me.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wanted to like it so much because I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: like a lot of the actors who were in it,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: but it just was so dull.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I am however, kind of excited about Starfighter with Sean
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Levy and Ryan Gosling are doing well.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll need to see I'll need to see stuff.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: This did not win me over, and I feel badly
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: about saying it because I love Pedro Pascal and like
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I said, I enjoyed the first two seasons of The Mandalorian.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I just never watched the third one. So but this,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: this is also coming from a gen xer. We have,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: we have very strong opinions about Star Wars. It's one
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: of our mini flaws, and so I don't want to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: to shape anyone else's opinion. Like I'm sure there are
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: people out there who are they can't wait to get
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: in line to see this movie. And for you, that's awesome.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Celebrate your love, enjoy it. Don't let some jaded, grousy
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: old man change your perception.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I'm taking it by your previous comment
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: that you aren't very excited for Star Wars Visions Volume three.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Then it's not that I'm not excited, it's that there
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: was one shot in this where and maybe it was
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: just the maybe I looked away. Maybe I've got a
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: misinterpretation of what I thought I saw but I could
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: have sworn there was a moment where two at eight's
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: or ad ats leapt out of the ice and uh,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: you know we're facing down the protagonist to that particular story,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, ad ads can't do that.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: There are these massive machines on legs. They can't leap,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: they don't jump. That wouldn't make any sense, you would,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: You would give everyone inside that transport concussions. Atsts no,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: these were four legged, these were not atsts. But even
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: atsds can't really jump like again, that would Can you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: imagine being in a car that just just suddenly jumps
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: up vertically, like not up a ramp, but goes vertically
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: up like twenty feet? It would you would die? Yeah, anyway,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: it's a cartoon. What am I arguing about? So yeah,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Visions is a series. There's been two other
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: volumes obviously. This is volume three that's coming out October
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: twenty ninth on Disney Plus, where it's an anthology of
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: various stories done in different anime styles. And I will
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: say the art looks amazing, Like the trailer. I was
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: so impressed by all the art that I saw in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: these trailers. I don't know who anyone is. I don't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: know what the heck is happening. I know there's some
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Jedi because there's lightsabers all over the darn place. But
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the art styles are phenomenal.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you most of what happened. I enjoyed
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the first season of it, Okay, I didn't watch the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: second season of it. However, the season has you walks,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It just tells me that someday we're gonna have
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: have a watch party where we watched the two Ewok
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: movies back to back.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Do you like Ewoks? I thought you did not.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I do not, and those movies are terrible.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I love them, But I've I've found out recently. I don't.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: This is not entirely true, but I have found that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: there's somewhat a similar effect to the Ewok effect with
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: the character Q from Star Trek.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: How do you mean by the ewalk effect?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: So like, if you were a kid when you encountered
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: the Ewoks, you love them? Ah, and if you were
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit older, because like I watched the Ewok
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: movies when I was very young, I.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Mean I was, I was a kid when Return of
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the Jedi came out. I saw that movie in the
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: theater as a child, and I guess as a child,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: I did like the Ewoks because they were super cute.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: But and I don't hate the Ewoks. I just don't
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: have As I've gotten older, I don't have nostalgia for them.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean like the Ewok movies specifically, I have
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: nostalgia for because I watched when I was a little
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: kid and I didn't know what good cinema was.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: I think I think I might have been I don't
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: know when they came out. I might have been twelve
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: or something. But I didn't like them then, and I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: like them less as I'm older.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four, so.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I was nineteen eighty four, I.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Was not twelve three I was.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I was not yet twelve. I was young, and I
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: didn't like them.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I okay, so the Ewok effect doesn't count for you.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I did watch them when I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: was very little. I maybe didn't watch them when they
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: came out. I too might have been too young for that.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I remember watching it when it came out because it
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: was that was a made for TV film series like
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: two movies, and I remember watching them on television, so
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I remember. I remember that distinctly. It's one of one
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: of the few memories I have from that time.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting because it's got oh, You're gonna hate
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: me for this. It's got such a similar vibe to Willow.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Oh Oh that hurt oh because I actually like Willow, I.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Know, which is why I said, You're gonna hate me
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: But there's but I also I'm also one of those
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: jerks who never watched the Willow series, so I'm one
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: of the reasons that thing didn't get come back.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: It was it was did you ever watch Ella Enchanted?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. The name sounds familiar, but I
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: don't think I watched it.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: It was it was like, uh, Cinderella. It was the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: story of Cinderella, but it was some extra magic and
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: modern songs that it was similar like Night's Tale, where
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: it tried to blend modern and fantasy medieval together. Didn't.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: There were things I really liked about it, but it
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: just overall didn't quite work for me, and I was
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: really sad about it.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Couldn't quite stick the landing. No, But so you feel
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: like the Willow series was kind of in that same.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Vein yeah, more more so than those other things I mentioned,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: because I don't feel like it committed to either fully
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: enough to make it work.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha? Well, moving away from Star Wars, let's talk
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: about Robin of Loxley, Robin.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Hood, Robin see the problems when we say Robin of Locksley.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Even though I know that's correct, my brain goes straight
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: to men and tits.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, mine goes to Prince of Thieves
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: because I remember seeing that in the theater too, the
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I don't remember very much of it. I don't think
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I watched it till I.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Was an adult. Oh no, I saw that one in
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: the theater as a kid, and it's one of those
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: movies that I'm constantly reminded of. Because the music for
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: Robin Hood Prince of Thieves is often used in other
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: like commercials and trailers. It's one of those that gets
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: borrowed all the time.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I watched it and forgotten another one.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: This is a huge tangent. I'm sorry, but I haven't
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: taught to Ariel in so long. Another piece of music
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: that gets used a lot, or at least specifically for
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: the Olympics, for a while was the theme song to
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Briscoe County Junior. The Adventures of Briscoe County Junior. They
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: were using that music for promotions for NBC's coverage of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: the Olympics many years ago now, and I thought I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: was going crazy every time it came on, because I
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: was like, is this Briscoe County Junior. And it was
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: at a time where you could not easily look that
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: up on the internet, but I thought it was going nuts. Anyway,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: let's talk about Robinhood that's coming to MGM plus. This
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: is a series that starts on November two, and I
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: have historical issues with this one because it's trying to
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: be kind of a natives versus invaders storyline because they're
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: pitting They're saying Robin Hood is part of the Saxon
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: people who lived in England when the Normans came over
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: and invaded, and the Sheriff of Nottingham and his crew
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: the ruling class. Those are the Normans. So one of
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: the stories that's happening here is that it's Normans oppressing
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: the Saxons. Here's why I have a problem with this,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Like not that that's not a thing, but the Norman
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: invasion happened in ten sixty six. The Robinhood story happens
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: in the late twelfth centuries, like the eleven nineties. So
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty years have passed since the Norman invasion.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: So the Norman versus sexon thing is not a thing
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: more than a century later. That's just not even remotely
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: in the picture. And it drives me nuts that they've
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: decided that this is the story they want to tell it.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, but why you have a story it's a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: wealthy versus the poor, that's your story. You don't need
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: to have it be natives versus colonizers.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. Maybe they're just like, well, the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: robin Hood story has been told so many times, which
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: is true.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: It is true.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they didn't They didn't necessarily need to change it.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: The robin Hood story is a good one, and it's
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: still a pertinent topic.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: And if they had said it a century earlier, right,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: if they had said it where it's not that long
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: after the Norman invasion, I can get behind it now,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: But I know it's not. Because Eleanor of Aquitaine is
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: listed as one of the characters in the series. That's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: the mother of Richard the Lionhearted and Prince John, like
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: that's their mother. So I mean it has to take
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: place in like the eleven nineties or thereabouts. So anyway,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: here's the really bad thing though, Take all of those
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: complaints out. Take the old man yelling at passing cloud
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: rant I just did out. I still think it doesn't
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: look very good.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. It should, by all intents and purposes,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: be something that appeals to me. I do like Robin
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Hood a lot. I like that story. I like many
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: of the iterations of it.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: It does look you look good and green.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe I am Robin Hood.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe you are Robin Hood.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: No I am not. Please don't come after me. I'm
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: not stealing from nobody.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. P TV shows also we have to say, like
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Sheriff of Nottingham is played by Sean Beans, we already
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: know he dies in like the second or third.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it almost feels like they're
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: trying to make Robin Hood and his gang lost boys,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: which might be true, but in my brain they aren't
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: a bunch of teenagers. I don't know why.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Friar Tuck looks like heith in kindergarten like like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: these these are young versions of these characters. The series
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: starts on November second on MGM plus, and I don't know,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: like like it just looks like a pretty milk toast
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: take on robin Hood, which I guess like, maybe I
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: shouldn't complain because that other Robinhood movie that came out
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: with Wat's his face from The Kingsman that looked awful
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: like it made robin Hood look like like it was
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: supposed to be like a medieval version of Diehard. It
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: was terrible looking, So maybe I shouldn't be upset that
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: this is more of a by the numbers apart from
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: the Norman versus Saxon storyline. But I don't know, it
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: just none of this worked for me.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: I also didn't watch the Russell Crow robin Hood, Oh.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: Neither of I That also did not look good to me.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't know. I like Gladiator the
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, uh okay, so that's enough for robin Hood.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Speaking of more of the same, mm hmm. We got
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: an official trailer for Welcome to Dairy which looks the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: same as the unofficial trailer, which looks the same. I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: just I just had to mention this. We don't even
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: have to spend a lot of time on it. Which
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: looks the same as the teaser trailer, which looks the
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: same as the previous teaser trailer, which looks the same
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: as the previous movies, which is the same as the book.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get a little bit of extra information here,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: like like we learned we learned that this this black
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: family is a military family that they had been living
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: on military basis and now they've moved to dairy because
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: they want to have a normal day to day life,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: right Like that's that's like in there. I think the
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: most interesting thing to me about this trailer was just
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: the Easter eggs, right like there was there's a out
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: to Shawshank, Like there's a prison busol and it has
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Shawshank Prison written on it and you're like, oh, I remember.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: And also like the Shawshank Redemption and this is a
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: reference to that thing I liked. So there's little moments
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, otherwise I feel exactly as you do, Ariel,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: like it's very much more of what we have already seen.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's really well made. I'll say, yeah, like.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we know how it ends. Yeah, if
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: you if you like watching the movies, you'll probably like
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: watching the show. Like it almost feels like they're a
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: little bit trying to bank off of the excitement for
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things season five a little bit too.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I would be more excited
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: about this if it was not connected to it at all,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: and that we were talking kind of like the I
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: never got into the Castle Rock series.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Season one was very good, but see.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: If it had been something more like that, where it's like, Okay,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: we're going to set this within the type of worlds
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: that Stephen King creates, where it's this small town where
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: there are all these dark secrets that people know but
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: no one acknowledges, like no one talks about it, but
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: it's this darkness that exists in these small towns. I
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: could really get behind that. But making it an extension
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: of it when we already know how that story ends,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: because those movies came out not long ago at all,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: that seems weird to me. It's the prequel problem that
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: you just run into all the time. But the series
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: comes out October twenty sixth, so maybe it'll surprise us.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe, And like, here's the thing I I would be
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: on board for this prequel, you know, taking a look
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: at racism in that era, but the book also does
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: kind of tread that, you.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Because so that's the thing, is like, if it if
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: they were trying to make it closer to a Lovecraft Country,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: which is a lot but a very well done television show,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I would before that exception of the fact that that
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: also has already been told. It's nice. I guess it's
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: nice to see it played out nice as maybe not
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the right word.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Important, but you know, the series also looks like a
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: lot of work went into it. The performances that I'm
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: seeing in the trailer all look good, like they look strong, like.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: It looks like a kid actors annoy me.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: No, no, it looks like it looks like it's incredibly
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: well made. So whether it's necessary or not, it may
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: just be a really well made piece of entertainment.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and I will say again, Season one of
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Castle Rock was great. Season two was also good, but
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: it mainly focused like season one was, where they were
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: pulling all the different stuff in right. Season two was
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: mainly the prequel for Annie Wilkes, so a little less
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: interesting because it was more of a linear plot line.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, Well, let's talk about something that's not linear. It's
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: all squiggly because it's a snake.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, we got the trailer for Anaconda finally, not the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: one from the nineties, but the one with Jack Black
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: and Paul Rudd. And it was not what I was expecting.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Same, So if you haven't seen the trailer, pause this
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: episode and go watch the trailer, because I agree, Ariel,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: it was not what I expected. So we are now
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: assuming you have seen the trailer. I did not think
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: this was going to be a movie in which characters
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: are in the film trying to reboot Anaconda.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it is. And then halfway through the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: movie it turns out to actual Anti Kon. Halfway through
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: the trailer it turns into actual Anaconda. Yes, because in
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: the trailer they have a big snake, and this part
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't care for. Of course, I actually like snakes.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: There was actually a snake, smuddy trail, actually a snake
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: in my front yard the other day. And by that
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I walked outside and I had a neighbor say,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: there's a dead snake, a large dead snake in your
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: front yard, and I want to go take a look,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't look very close because there a bunch
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: of flies around it, And I'm like, I like snakes,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: but I hate corpses. I'm leaving it.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: There A poor snake, poor snake.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: So I like snakes. I used to babysit a girl
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: who had two brothers who both they owned a big
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: oldbo constricter and a little don't know what it was,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: but a little like racer type snake that was super zippy.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: I loved playing with those snakes. I loved like holding them,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: and I like snakes. So at the beginning of the movie,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: they have a snake and the snake does not make it,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: and that made me a little sad because this poor
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: snake wasn't asking for anything.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Bad and it's done as a joke, and it's clearly
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: not a real snake, like it's not. But but I agree,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Like even if you see a CGI depiction of an
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: animal and the animal is getting hurt, that triggers something
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: in me too, like I'm not a monster. I do
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: get upset about that source of so I felt the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: same way. I was like, I hate that, that's a joke,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Like I don't mind it. I don't mind
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: seeing people say, getting suddenly dismembered or exploded and it
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: being a joke beat if it's handled properly, I don't
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: mind that so much. The animals never sits right when
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: they doesn't matter what the animal is.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's it's I understand that in nature, animals
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: attack animals, and animals get hurt and animals die. It's
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: the circle of life, right. I don't like it when
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: it's because of when a human has caused injury to
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: an animal that would have just minded its own business
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: like this poor boa constrictor. Regardless, regardless they get, they
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: get theirs for it.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they end up encountering a preternaturally ginormous ana Conda,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: a lah the nineteen nineties era action monster movie. And
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: obviously the big difference between this Anaconda and the original
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: Anaconda is the original Anaconda wasn't really intended to be
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: a comedy. It just kind of turned into one because
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: of how bad the CGI was and how dumb the
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: performances were. And in this one, they're intentionally making it
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: a comedy. It's it will still it remains to be
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: seen whether or not that'll be successful. I thought the
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: trailer was amusing, but it has not yet convinced me
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be a successful comedy.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to see the There was another dead
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: animal in the trailer at the end, and that one
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I was fine with because it genuinely made me laugh.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: It's been long enough for me to have seen the
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: trailer that I don't remember what you were.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: I can't see so so in the trailer, they think
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Jack Black's character has died. Oh yes, Simon's bait to
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: get off the island, and for some reason he's not
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: enough bait, so they put like a boar on him,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: a dead bar on.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: They essentially duct tape a dead boar to Jack Black's back.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: So then he's you see him running away from the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: snake with a and he's like screaming, what's on me?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: And the els?
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: So that made me laugh despite myself.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: All right, well and this this movie comes out Christmas Day.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: So jolly. The next trailer is another trailer, like, I
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he should have been put with robin
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Hood because it has so many things in it that
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: I should like, and it left me feeling nothing. And
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: that is the trailer for The Bride. As in the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Bride of Frankenstein.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: I feel the same way like it's it's starting to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: it feels a little kitchen sink ish. Yeah. I watched
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: this trailer and didn't know what to think. So Maggie
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: Jillenhall directed this film and her brother is in it,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: Jake Jillenhall is in it. Although Christian Bale plays Frankenstein's monster,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Jesse Buckley plays the Bride. Peter Sarsgard is a detective
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: in it, and Annette Benning plays a scientist named doctor
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: Euphronius and she's the one who actually creates the Bride.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm guessing the story is supposed to be that
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Frankenstein's monster has been around since Frankenstein made him decades earlier,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: and it's just now that doctor Euphronius is like, you
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: need a companion and decides to create this bride character.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: It's This movie was hard for me to get a
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: grip on because there are elements of dark comedy, there
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: are elements of action, there's some elements are elements of
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: horror as well, and I couldn't really get a handle
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: on what tone they were shooting for.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: And I think This is why it fell flat for
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: me is just because it, much like Willow, it doesn't
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: feel like it's committing to any one concept. Yeah, like
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: it's a nineteen twenty gangsters movie, but it's an art piece.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: But it's a horror, but it's a dark comedy. It
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: just none of those pieces felt like they were committed
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: to and I it's like I do. I do think
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: it's interesting that, you know, they just, according to the trailer,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: if I'm understanding it right, they found a woman and
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: they killed her because Frankenstein liked her, and then they
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: reanimated her to be his bride because they say at
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the trailer it wasn't an accident. This
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: was all purposeful. I also don't get the artistic choice
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: of her having a black splatter across her face.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't understand what that is either, right, Like.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it doesn't look like a burnmark from electricity.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look like vomit that stained her, don't. I
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they'll explain it. It just goes out
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: of place with everything else.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I wanted to like this, I
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: really did, but it just didn't. It didn't quite work
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: for me. And also I feel like I feel like
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: this movie. I don't know what this movie's trying to say, right,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: so I should preface this, but I feel like in
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: a world where Poor Things has already been a movie,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: this film came out too late. Like if this film
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: had come out before Poor Things, maybe I would feel
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: more enthusiastic about it. But I feel like I feel
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: like Poor Things in captured that weird, quirky, unsettling and
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: yet humorous tone that at least parts of this trailer
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: seem like The Bride is going for. And again, maybe
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: that was just the trailer. Maybe I'm totally off about
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: what this movie's trying to be.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: But it could be like Dungeons and Dragons where the
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: trailer just doesn't capture it yeaeah, And I hope that's
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: the case.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I gotta say, if the Dungeons and Dragons trailer
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: had the bit where the Bard is deflating, then I
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: would have been like, well, I've seen the best part
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: of the movie and there'd be no reason to watch
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: the rest. And I would have been.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Right, you don't like the Paladin in that he was great?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: I think the Bard deflating I don't think I had
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: laughed that hard in such a long time at a
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: movie like would that Happen? I was having trouble breathing.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: It was incredibly funny. But the moment where the Paladin's like,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm done here and he just walks off
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: off straight and just and they just see him and
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: he just keeps walking, that made me laugh so hard
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: because it was metaphor me.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Well, the Bride comes out March sixth next year, and
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe another trailer will come out that will make
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: us reconsider our initial reactions. But yeah, so far this
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: is one of those where I was like, I wanted
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: to like this, it didn't get me there.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the next thing I didn't know was going to happen,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: But now that I've discovered it, I definitely want to
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: watch it. It's I believe a movie coming out on
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: Netflix called This Is Not a Murder Mystery.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually a series. It's a series not a series.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Well, now I'm even more interested about I Get tell
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: me if I've got this wrong. Murders keep happening at
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: a like basically a surrealist convention that Salvadar Dolly then
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: has to solve.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Well, Saladar Dolly is there. I don't think he's actually
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: the detective. So this is based off of very based
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: is too strong a word. This is inspired by something
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: that actually happened in that Magreet, the artist Magreet was
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: invited to England to attend an art exhibition gala kind
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: of thing that this very wealthy lord in England was throwing.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: But everything else is fictional, all right. But it is
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: a group of surrealist artists like Magree and Salvador Dali
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: getting together and as you say, there's a murder, and
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: then other people are turning up dead, and so some
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: detectives are called in from Scotland yard to try and
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: solve what happens. The film itself, or the series itself,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: I should say, incorporates elements of surrealism, although it's more
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: grounded than I anticipated, considering that it's about a bunch
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: of surrealist artists like Dalli. Does not come across nearly
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: as weird as Dolly actually was. Dolly comes across pretty normal,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: at least in the trailer. But it looks interesting. It
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: definitely feels like it is pulling inspiration from the Knives
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Out series.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: It does, it does but I like the Knives Out
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: series and I'm happy for more in that arena.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the series already came out in Belgium, but
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: I could not find a release date for when we
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: should expect it everywhere else, So that doesn't mean it
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: hasn't been announced. I was running out of time when
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: we went to record, so it may be that the
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: information's out there and I just didn't find it. It
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: looks it looks entertaining and weird, and I'm all for that.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: If I watch it and I think, oh well, this
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: is kind of derivative of the Knives Out series, there
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: are worse things to be.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the next movie is another one. I didn't
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: know what's happening, and I'm gonna be real honest. Even
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: though I was going to be a cast member of
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: the Edgar Allan Post Show, which is like a touring
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: high school show where I would have had to have
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: remembered word for word in a belly and the cask
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: of a manciato, and I was pretty close. I for
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: some reason thought the Oval Portrait in Dorian Gray were
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: the same, ding dang thing.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: They're very close. So the Oval Portrait is a two
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: page story. So you can, like, literally, when we're done
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: with this, if you want to read it, it'll take
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: you no time at all. It's two pages long, and
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, i'll spoil it for you so you don't
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: even need to read it. The story is that there's
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: a guy he's either ill or injured or possibly both,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: and he and he and his servant are taking shelter
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: in an abandoned a state and he's laying up in
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: a one of the rooms in this estate and is
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: looking over portraits that are in the room. He's got
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: like this little canalabra, it's lit up. He's looking at
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: the different portraits. There's a book that was by the bed,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: and the book actually has information about all the different
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: works of art in the room. And at one point
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: he shifts, and when he shifts, the light hits this
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: oval portrait in the corner, and at first he thinks
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: there's a person in the room with him because the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: portrait is so lifelike and it's of this young woman,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: and he shocked, but then realizes he's looking at a picture,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: and so then he uses the book and looks up
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: information about this portrait and learns that she was the
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: wife of the artist who painted it, and that she
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: was originally like very young and vivacious and loved life,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: and she wasn't as excited about her husband's art because
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: her husband was so obsessed with art that it took
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: him away from her, and so she kind of got
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: resentful of the art. But he asks her to sit
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: for him so he can draw her portrait, and the
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: basic element of the story is that as he's painting
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: the portrait, it's literally draining the life force from her
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: and imbuing it into the painting. Is the reason his
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: painting is so amazing is because it's pulling the life
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: not that he wants to do this, but that's just
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: what's happening. It's essentially a suggesting that the artist himself
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: is a madman. So it's kind of like the picture
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: of Dorian Gray, but in reverse. Yeah, because Dorian Gray,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: you've got a portrait that ages and that allows Dorian
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: Gray to remain young forever, and this one, you have
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: a portrait that captured the life force of the subject
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: of that portrait and she as a result spoiler alert,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: the last sentence is like she was dead and then
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: that's the end of the story.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: So we're getting a movie, like a little indie movie
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: inspired by this story.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: Inspired inspired is carrying so much weight.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: I guess kind of of what happens to this portrait
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: after that?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Guess because it's a two page story. There's no way
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: you could turn two pages into a feature length movie.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I was I was going to ask if this is
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: how you felt about Like, if you felt about this
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: the same way you felt about night whoa, I can
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: say a sentence the same way you felt about Night Swim.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Night Swim was a YouTube horror short that
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: worked fine for a short because it's it's just an idea, right,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: It's not a story. It's just an idea, and the
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: idea is creepy, and it works on that level. But
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: then you try and turn Night Swim into a feature
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: length movie and it just falls apart. That is how
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: I feel about this. Maybe it's an original story that is,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: like it feels very ghost story adjacent, and I do
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: love ghost stories. But to me, it's just ridiculous that
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: they call it Edgar Allen POE'SE the Oval Portrait, because like,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: how how do you turn two pages? You're not Peter Jackson.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, people can aspire to that whether they should.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: I love the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Peter Jackson
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: did wonderful with that.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: So just me taking every opportunity I can to crap
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: on the Hobbit films.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Okay, Well we'll move on because we're almost
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: at two hours and we still have five things left
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: to talk about. The next thing is the item that
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier you moved from doesn't fit to do fit?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: So did you move it because you are interested in it?
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: I am interested in it. It's called dust Bunny, and
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: it is It's got some if it follows some other
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: tropes that we have seen recently, that large one being.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: It centers around a child who's who perhaps whose fantasies
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: have come to life, or maybe it's the case that
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: she is able to perceive something that adults just haven't seen.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: In this case, it's monsters. She thinks there's a monster
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: under her bed, then her parents disappear, and then she
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: goes next door because her next door neighbor just happens
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: to be Mad's Michelson, who is a professional hitman, and
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: she hires him to kill the monsters. And I'm like,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: how is this not like solidly in the purview of
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: large and our drud Colleider.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: I mean it is so it feels like it it
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: feels like John Wick and Slumberland had a child and
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: then showed us that child in the art style of
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: Bullet Train.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks absolutely bonkers. I don't know that it
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: looks good, but it looks like I need to see it.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: I definitely want to see it. Yeah, you described it perfectly.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: I don't really have anything to add other than the
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: fact that I was like, I didn't think it was
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: going to be a kid's movie. I don't know if
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: it is a kid's movie, but it almost looks charming.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It also has Sigourney Weaver in it, as well
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: as David Desmaukian.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's great. He's so good. He was great as
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: the Polka Dot man in The Suicide Squad, he was
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: great in Late Night with the Devil, Like.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: He's brilliant as Garrathian and Murder.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: Bought so good. So this comes out December fifth, and
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: I'm on board, Like, what a weird concept that's again,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: this is one where it's a weird concept and the
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: execution looks like it's done in a way that's entertaining.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say good, like I
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call Bullet Train good, but I do think it's entertaining.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like this could be two, so
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful for that.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think about Mister K? Because when
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: the when the Mister K is the next trailer we're
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: going to talk about. When the thumbnail popped up in
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: my YouTube, I was like, this looks like Crispin Glover
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: being Crispin Glover and weird, and I don't know if
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: I'm in for it, But then I watched it and
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent on board for Crispin Glover to
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: be Crispin Glover. I don't want to live in a
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: world that doesn't have Crispin Glover being weird in it.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: So this movie technically came out in twenty twenty four,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: but it hasn't received distribution in the United States right
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: it did like the festival circuit, so it's finally getting
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: released on October eighth. And Crispin Glover plays a magician
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: who either checks into a hotel or like an apartment
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: building in order to stay there and then find it's
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: a hotel, and he finds himself trapped there, like he
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: can't leave. He can't there is no leaving, there's no
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: exit to find, like you're lost. It's like you're in
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: a labyrinth, and everybody else there is also kind of trapped,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: and they're all weird, like they're all everything is off
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: and unsettling and strange, and I kind of love how
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: weird it is, and I'm excited to learn more about it.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: I want well not learn more about it. I don't
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: want to see any more trailers. I would rather watch
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: this and hope that it's intriguing and entertaining and strange
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: and not just weird for weird sake, like if it's
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: one of those where you watch it and then you're like, Okay, yeah,
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: they made weird choices, but they weren't saying anything that's
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: not interesting to me. But I'm hopeful that it ends
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: up being entertaining and perhaps insightful. I don't know what
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: the message would be, but yeah, I'm definitely curious.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: I would say, don't do speaking of spooky seasoning season,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: spooky seasoning, spooky season, my video keeps like glitching my
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: face out on me and it's really weird. But I
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: will say don't read too much into the synopsis because
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: it will give some things away. I really love seeing
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: these more independent films that have done this, like the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: film circuit, like.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: The film festivals, film festival.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: Circuits get distribution like I love that, like both from
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: the aspect of like getting new stories and then also
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: from the aspect of promoting movies that maybe don't have
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: astronomical budgets but are still really good.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think that's I mean, this is
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: a discussion for another time because we're running so long.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: But I think that's a byproduct of post pandemic effects
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: on the box office, where the studios are becoming more
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: and more careful about diving into big budgets because it's
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: getting harder and harder to realize a profit on those
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: enormous investments, and so it's giving smaller, more independent features
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: a chance to get distribution that otherwise they might struggle for.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: Like it used to be that in Atlanta at least,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to see something that was on an
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: independent film circuit, you could go to the Terra or
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: the Plaza. Those are the two theaters that would run
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: like and they they're small theaters, like they only have
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: a few screens each. They're not like these megaplex theaters,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: but those would be the two places you could go
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: to see the more like independent, quirky stuff everything else,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: like like all the big theaters were taken up by
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: films from Marvels essentially anything Disney owns, Like, yeah, you
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: know so.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: And we do have a few more independent movie theaters.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: Now, but yes, and but we're also seeing some of
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: those independent movies either getting bigger representation, better distribution because produce,
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: you know, studios are realizing, hey, this is a smaller
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: investment but potentially a bigger payoff, or we're just seeing
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: more room in theaters for these kind of movies to
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: also get a space to be played. So I think
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. But our next one is the opposite
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: of that. It is a big, big budget movie.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is the second part of the Wicked movie,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: Wicked for Good, the part that Jonathan thinks he's going
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: to sleep through. I'm kidding.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: The trailer looks better than what The reason I keep
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: complaining about this is because I think the best songs
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: in Wicked are in the first half. And that not
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: to say that there are no good songs in the
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: second half, but I don't like them as much.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: I can get that, like, there are there're some good songs,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: but they aren't quite as catchy as the first half.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: You know this, this part of the movie is going
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: to be a lot more emotional. Yeah, I can't tell
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: if I can't tell if they're giving it a happier
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: ending or not. I know, I know the play the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: musical has a happier ending than the book.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, no, the play has. I would argue
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: the play ending is just outright happy for the most part.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, certain characters don't get transformed back, so
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a bummer for them.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but but but I guess, kind of spoiler
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: if you didn't know. Some characters got transformed in some way.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying who gets transformed into what. I'm just
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: saying some characters go undergo a transformation and it doesn't
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: appear to be reversed.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: They get transformed into audience members and they really wish
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: they could go back to Oz.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: Like for example, Alphabe's sister gets transformed into paste. That's
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: not a spoiler. That's at the beginning of Wizard of Oz.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: That's true. Oh, you're right, she gets.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: A house dumped on her, Like everyone knows that part. Uh,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: that's the that's the inciting incident for the Wicked Witch.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I like she does not. She does
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: not magically go from ketchup back to sister. So uh.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: I never saw the first one. I don't have any
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: interest in seeing this one, but I totally get the
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: excitement around it, and I think that's awesome. I think
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: people being excited about the story and the music and
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: and loving the world building, and like, it's clear that
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: an incredible amount of talent went into making these movies,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: from costumes to hair and makeup to to the performances themselves. Like,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: it's truly an incredible piece of entertainment. It's just not
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: appealing to me, which is the only reason why I
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: haven't watched it. But I recognize that it's legitimately really
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: good and for good I'm imagine will be even better.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the performances were phenomenal and yes, beautiful costumes, amazingly
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: cool sets like it. It's worth it just to watch
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: the Dancing Through Life number. If you haven't on YouTube.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: I would say, because the set in the choreography and
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: that is that is loathing and dancing through life. Both
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: the choreography and the sets, if for that, are really wonderful.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah worth just to check out those two things on
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: their own without sitting through the very, very long movie.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: I will see the second part. I saw the first part.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: I will say, I'm not like a huge fan of
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: the first part of the movie, or like, sorry, that's wrong,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of the story. I never
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: saw the musical, so I've just seen the movie and
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: I've read up about the book and the musical. There
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: were some editing choices that I felt like, based off
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: of hearing the soundtrack before, were a little bit weird
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: that I would have changed, and I felt like, even
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: though they were able to explore things more, some some
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: development still felt rushed. But overall I did enjoy it.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard some of the songs and like all
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: the bits where the arrangement gets a little more pop
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: music ish kind of rubbed me the wrong way, but
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: that's because I'm a musical theater like fanatic, right. I
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: just I love the style of musical theater, and I
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: thought I love pop music too, but I like those
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: to be separate, and it's why like certain musicals, I
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: also find I often find them trying because they're they're
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: incorporating so much pop music elements into their style that
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: it also doesn't really appeal to me. So stuff like
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: The Greatest Showmen. There's one song in The Greatest Showman
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: I like, and that's it. Well, maybe one and a half.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: I kind of like Million Dreams. It just goes on
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: way too long, but that's it. And the other one
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: that I really like is probably the most musical where
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: it's the where he's trying to make the deal, where
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 2: they're singing in the bar and the bartender has got
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: this incredible choreography, which turns out he was the choreographer,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: so it makes sense. But yeah, so when I heard
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: music from Wicked, I was like, every time there was
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: like an ariana grande embellishment, uh, that kind of thing,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: it just it kind of stuck in my ear a bit.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: But that's because that's because I'm a fuddy duddy. It's not.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: That's not saying that there was bad choices.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: I just didn't like them, so I didn't necessarily mind those.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: There was one moment, and I apologize to everybody that
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to hear some approximation of me
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: even trying this where alphabet does the the iconic.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: Whatever, yeah, the target.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to do it. I could do it
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: if I tried. I'm not familiarly. Okay, that was not
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: good what I just did and iopol where like the
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: moment between like there was I felt like some extra
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: action or exposition between the previous part of the song
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: and that song. So listening to her do it after
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: like a pause felt weird and out of place. Yeah,
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: I get you, so, like they show her flying and
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: she turns around and then she does it, but it
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: didn't by that point it just felt.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't feel natural totally. Well, the sequel comes
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: out November twenty first, and I know that it's going
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: to be a huge hit, Like there's no question to me,
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: Like it's going to be one of the biggest hits
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five from a box office perspective, I
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being like possibly
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: the top earner for twenty twenty five, especially going into
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: that like the Thanksgiving week that's going to be one
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: of those that a lot of people go to. So yeah,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: not to wait before that comes out. And then we've
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: got a couple more things to talk about. We've gotten
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: animated film I believe that's coming on Apple TV Plus
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: called Sister's Grim comes out October third. It's based off
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: a it's a series. It's a series. Okay, it's based
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: off a series of children's or young adult novels where
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: you have these two sisters who discover they are the
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: descendants of the brothers Grim and moreover that there is
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: a location where all the characters from fairy tales really
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: live and it gets a little bit of Once upon
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: a Time ish but for kids.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in fact, they called the different characters
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: once upon a timers, Prince Charming and Pan and all
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: And you see stuff you see Humpty Dumpty there in
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: one of them, and.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it. It looks darling, Yeah,
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: it looks.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's it looks like it's a pretty creative.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, if Once upon a Time didn't exist,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: I would think it would be really innovative. But I
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: look at this like, oh, it's an animated children's version
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: of Once Upon a Time, which honestly I could never
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: get into because it was just so much.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: I think Once was also geared more towards adults, or
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: at least young adults.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it felt to me like it was geared
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: towards adults without being sophisticated enough for me to take
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: it seriously. I found it. I was like, Okay, this
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: is American horror story, but for fairy tales instead of horror.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it had a little bit of a ya
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: feel to the plot lines.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that's a good way for it.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: Well, that about covers it for Sister Grim. We've got
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: one more story, and that is there is a kickstarter
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: for The Dragon King, which is based off of I
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: think The dragon Prints on Netflix already.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's an animated series, or at least it
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: would be an animated series, and creatives who are trying
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: to bring this to life include folks from The Dragon Prints, Avatar,
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: The Last Airbender, and Critical Role. Yeah. Liam O'Brien, Yeah,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: he's involved in it. I went and looked at the kickstarter.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: Their goal was to hit two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: At the time of our recording and it may even
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: be higher by the time we're doing this, but it
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: was close to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: More than funded in under five hours.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: So yeah, triple what they were looking for. And usually
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: when you see something like this where you're looking at like,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: they have a teaser, an animated teaser kind of giving
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: you a feel for the animation style and art style
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: and everything. But usually when you see a project like
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: this on a crowdfunding campaign, the goal is not to
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: raise all the money you need in order to fund
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: the project. It's to prove two investors that there is
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: an audience that is willing to put up their money
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: in order for this to happen, so that the investors
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: will then go and fund the rest of the project.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: So I would not be surprised if that's the case here,
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: because there's no way two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: would cover an animated series.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, but there. I think the teaser trailer for
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: it looks really good. I haven't even watched the dragon Prints,
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: but I am super into this. I might have to
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: go watch the dragon Prints. Now. There are still nineteen
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: days to this campaign, so it is successful. You could
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: also add your support to it to show your interest
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: as well, if you wanted to.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's it. If you want to support
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: art that you think exists should exist in the world,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: you can go and do that. And if if this
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: project appeals to you. Obviously, I'm not just saying go
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: out and support stuff just to so it'll exist, because
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 2: not all art is necessarily worth your time. Like that's
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: a very personal kind of decision you have to make,
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: but it's it's cool to see it happen.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And that is the end of our
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: epic return episode. Yay.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: We're almost as long as a Peter Jackson movie.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: But only as long as two episodes, so sorry, we
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: should have pushed for three hours.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: The nice thing is that there won't be that much editing.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: There was a bit where there was a booby trap
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the episode that I'll have to
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: edit out.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I really hope you don't hear
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: my new setup going Wonka Wonka, Wonka wonka wonk as
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: the table moves the entire time. Yeah, but if so,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: I'll fix it or I just won't touch my table. Jonathan.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: This has been a long episode. Do you want to
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: even tell people how to get in touch with you?
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: I actually already did. Yeah, I already in the episode,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: I left purposeful instructions on how to get in touch
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: with me. It's like in the middle of the episode.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: So if you didn't, if you didn't catch it, what
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do is delete this episode and
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: download it again and then and then listen, because I
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: mean there's a chance that I edited it out and
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: then only later on, like a few days from now,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: I will edit it back in republish it. And the
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: only way you'll know is if you delete and redownload
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: and listen all over again.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: So but it's there, Okay, I must have disassociated then.
• 2:15:46
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• 2:15:48
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• 2:16:13
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• 2:16:16
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