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Chuck & Buck 1-6 Hour 3: Gene Steratore, Everett Fitzhugh and can't we give Sam a rest! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: I ninety near the stadiums now with Gene Sterotor. Here's
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Speaker 1: Checking Buck.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: He's the greatest NFL official that's ever lived, and now
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Speaker 3: he entertains this all week and long at CBS Sports
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Speaker 3: as their rules analyst, and he is our friend. Jeene
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Speaker 3: Sterotur is with us. Happy New Year, sir.
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Speaker 2: Oh, happy near you're Tucking Buck. It's great to hear.
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Speaker 2: Provy fellows.
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Speaker 3: Did you ring in the New year at any Did
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Speaker 3: you do anything special?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 2: We did.
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Speaker 5: We taught him my lovely wife and I did travel
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Speaker 5: to Kansas City to visit one of the children.
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Speaker 2: And that's right. I really.
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Speaker 5: Even more importly, we built a bunch of you know,
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Speaker 5: blankets over the chair forts with the little grandkids, and
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Speaker 5: I spent forty eight hours on the floor. You know,
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Speaker 5: my back is letting me know that I did it.
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Speaker 5: But it was, uh, it was worth every second of it.
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Speaker 3: Do kids just naturally pick up on the fort building
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Speaker 3: aspect or did you have to teach them that you
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Speaker 3: can build a fort out of couch cushions?
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, in this day and age, because
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Speaker 5: everything is like so prepped, you know, and they get
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Speaker 5: on Amazon you can buy this like be configured fort.
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Speaker 2: I think when you go old school with them, the uh.
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Speaker 5: The light bulb kind of goes off, like, man, I
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Speaker 5: didn't realize all this stuff that's been around me every
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Speaker 5: day we actually can do something with, you know. So
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Speaker 5: one thing I could say for my son and my
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Speaker 5: daughter in law, they're very creative and they do go
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Speaker 5: old school a bunch. And and the kids were the
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Speaker 5: fort was amazing. We like the three or four room fort.
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Speaker 5: We were you know, we were just killing it this week,
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Speaker 5: you know, and it was you know, I was the
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Speaker 5: monster for thirty seconds and then it was half tears
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Speaker 5: and then papped, Hope be the monster and then back
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Speaker 5: to the monster.
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Speaker 3: Was Well, I love that there's not couch fort building
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Speaker 3: the video game, or that you know, your your children
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Speaker 3: have a robot building the forts for their children. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's great. Some old school things staying alive. All right, Well,
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Speaker 3: let's dive into a few things. Seahawks played a pretty
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Speaker 3: big game against the San Francisco forty nine ers on
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Speaker 3: Saturday night. I don't know if you heard, but we
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Speaker 3: won and so, but there are a lot of things
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Speaker 3: in there that that can be discussed. I'll go ahead
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Speaker 3: and start with this play. Juwan Jennings seemed to be
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Speaker 3: very frustrated from the San Francisco forty nine ers all
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Speaker 3: night long. I mean, obviously they weren't having much success,
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Speaker 3: but he seemed frustrated and on the verge of wanting
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Speaker 3: to fight on several different plays. And he actually did
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Speaker 3: start one out of bounds with Devin Witherspoon, one of
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Speaker 3: the seahawks best defenders, and they were officials standing right
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Speaker 3: there looking at it. Why would there be no flag
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Speaker 3: with that much activity taking place that far out of bounds?
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Speaker 2: Gene, Yeah, you know that would chuck.
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Speaker 5: I thought at the end of the play, you kind
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Speaker 5: of got to throw a flag on the play, right,
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Speaker 5: I know. It was on the opposite side of the
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Speaker 5: field where the end of the play happened.
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Speaker 2: Two players are.
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Speaker 5: Kind of engaged and kind of going at each other
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Speaker 5: away from the play, and the actual contact is on
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Speaker 5: the field of play as they start riding each other,
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Speaker 5: you know, out of bounds. By rule though that's fine
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Speaker 5: up until a point, but once we get into white
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Speaker 5: and we're out of bounds, now you've got to kind
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Speaker 5: of disengage, right. Our mantra was always once there are
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Speaker 5: four seat in the white, meaning both players that are
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Speaker 5: engaged are now out of bounds, the activity needs to
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Speaker 5: stop at that point, and as you said, at the
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Speaker 5: genders kind of took that in a little bit further
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Speaker 5: and wanted to finish whe us right out of bounds.
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Speaker 5: So at that point, I think that's when you go
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Speaker 5: from trying to manage a game or a situation to hey, listen,
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Speaker 5: I've been here blowing my whistle.
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Speaker 2: You guys knew I was next to you, but.
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Speaker 5: You just couldn't resist right like, you had to finish it.
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Speaker 5: So for that reason, you know, we're going to fill fifteen.
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Speaker 5: And I think in that case that's kind of where
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Speaker 5: my thought was on it, and I thought that's really
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Speaker 5: how they should have handled it.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 6: Usually when it happens, though, Gene, usually what because I
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Speaker 6: mean at the end, Devin Witherspoon gets up.
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Speaker 7: And I think that Jennings was still down on the ground.
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Speaker 6: He was in the process of getting up and then
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Speaker 6: he puts his hands up like, hey, I wasn't the one.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't me, even though there was a little bit
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Speaker 7: of bolt.
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Speaker 6: So is that really one where more often than not
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Speaker 6: you end up throwing the flag and then you go
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Speaker 6: offsetting penalties or an sportsmanker, unnecessary roughness whatever on both teams.
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Speaker 7: Shame on you don't do it again, nothing happens.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, Bucky. I mean, that's a great
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Speaker 5: point in part of the NFL philocity. See, and I know,
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Speaker 5: at least the years I was there, we always really
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Speaker 5: stress to try to get the first one right because
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Speaker 5: if we're just offsetting this thing, then.
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Speaker 2: Really, what are we gaining.
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Speaker 5: There's no harm, no situation here, So there is there
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Speaker 5: a deterrent now to offset, so you want to get
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Speaker 5: the instigator. Many times you miss that, and I think
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Speaker 5: in this case, you know, maybe if because it's a
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Speaker 5: physicality thing and not a taunt. See with a taunt
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Okay, look, we can slight both of
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Speaker 5: you for tawning, and we put you both on alert
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Speaker 5: because now you both have one tawning file against you,
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Speaker 5: meaning that if you have another one today it's going
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Speaker 5: to lead to your dismissal from the game. Now you
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Speaker 5: have a deter element in there that, yeah, let's flag
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Speaker 5: everybody involved and put them all on blast because now
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Speaker 5: they're one step away. And now it becomes I think
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Speaker 5: more productive type of a file. But with physical plays,
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Speaker 5: they don't really put that extra level in, right, So
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Speaker 5: that's something I think competition Committee to talk about, where
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Speaker 5: you know, even though it's a physical situation and unnecessary
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Speaker 5: roughness as opposed to what sportsmanlike in certain situations, let's
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Speaker 5: go ahead and apply this unnecessary roughness file and add
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Speaker 5: to it that in the event that there's an unsportsmanlike
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Speaker 5: or another unnecessary rough dis play that falls in this category,
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Speaker 5: we can eject you. Then I think filing, you know,
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Speaker 5: flagging everyone is a better you know, kind of a
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Speaker 5: better practice.
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Speaker 3: Well, I kind of like the idea as I'm listening
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Speaker 3: to the two of you talk, all right, so you
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Speaker 3: you know, we can't expect you to see how it
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Speaker 3: all starts, even though that's the person that should get
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Speaker 3: the fifteen yard penalty, but you can see like the
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Speaker 3: guy that reacts the worst afterwards, like you could give
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Speaker 3: offsetting fifteen yard personal foul penalties, but then fifteen yards
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Speaker 3: unsportsmanlike for whining against Juwan Jennings or playing the victim,
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Speaker 3: and then you still get to hit him with the
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Speaker 3: fifteen yards in the aftermath following me there.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.
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Speaker 5: You know, I think there's someone with the last name
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Speaker 5: hockey Lely somewhere that really is excited about that, because
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Speaker 5: imagine that announcement too, right, I mean this is a
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Speaker 5: long one, so you know, everybody kind of sit back, relax,
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Speaker 5: and then let me get.
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Speaker 2: Through this whole thing. You know, Yeah, I like it.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 3: Jean's territorres with Us a segment every week, brought to
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Speaker 3: you by BMW Seattle. There was also a play rock
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Speaker 3: party steps out of bounds. It looked like he was
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Speaker 3: two yard shy. They marked him one yard shy. Then
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Speaker 3: I still to this day don't know what happened. Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald was his challenge flag comes out of his pocket.
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Speaker 3: I guess he didn't throw it, and then he ends
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Speaker 3: up having to call him time out. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if he wasn't granted. I don't know if he's not
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Speaker 3: allowed to be granted, But it just seemed like a
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Speaker 3: really strange sequence. Do you have any way of explaining
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Speaker 3: what went down there?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: This is good take, ye know, a little bit confusing, reactionary.
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Speaker 2: I think by the coach that's it.
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Speaker 5: I would say that dropping the flag or anadvertent after review,
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Speaker 5: I might have to say, you know, that might be overturned.
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Speaker 5: I think he threw the flag, you know, I mean
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Speaker 5: he but I think his reaction was he felt like
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Speaker 5: the spot of the play was egregiously missed. As you said, right,
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Speaker 5: it's not fourth and one instead of fourth and two,
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Speaker 5: which is a huge difference, especially in the Tush push era.
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Speaker 5: I think the extra yard means something. By rule, you
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Speaker 5: can't challenge just where you think that they missed the spot.
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Speaker 5: You have to challenge a play in relation to the
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Speaker 5: line the game, or to a touchdown or something to
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Speaker 5: that effect. You just can't throw a challenge flag and say,
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Speaker 5: I think you guys missed the spot by two yards
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Speaker 5: if it doesn't have a first down involved or something
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Speaker 5: like that. In this case, Seattle is still right. San
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Speaker 5: Francisco's still short of the line the game. Now, if
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Speaker 5: he plays a little word solid and kind of plays
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Speaker 5: lou pole, he throws the flag and says, I want
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Speaker 5: to challenge the ruling as it relates to a first down,
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Speaker 5: and then they go look at the review and go,
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Speaker 5: you know what, what do you think that he get
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Speaker 5: the first down? I mean, why a you're challenging it
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Speaker 5: because you marked the short be unique to see a
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Speaker 5: defensive coach challenge a play saying, hey, I think it's
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Speaker 5: the first down. But once they get into review, and
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Speaker 5: if they can legally get in right by the rules,
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Speaker 5: now they can adjust the spot of the football. So
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Speaker 5: I think, what we you know, so there's a kind
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Speaker 5: of just loopage, right, I mean, as it relates to
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Speaker 5: the procedure, And then we can all ask this too
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Speaker 5: in situations like that with this new toy we have
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Speaker 5: and use more frequently than we ever have before with
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Speaker 5: replay assists, you see an egregiously or ronossly misspot on
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Speaker 5: a play with a pending fourth down, which is in
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Speaker 5: a huge situation, why does it replay assist just come
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Speaker 5: down and move the football backyard because it was a
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Speaker 5: pretty clean you know, we saw the foot You gotta
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Speaker 5: just all you have to do now a stitch whereas
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Speaker 5: the football and the footage the white and put the
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Speaker 5: football there and fix this. Uh, But then when you
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Speaker 5: have that flag that is thrown and now which calls
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Speaker 5: time out, it's kind of a double whammy because really,
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Speaker 5: if you think that he really intentionally throws the flag
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Speaker 5: and then has a reaction following that flag, which he
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Speaker 5: can't grow there, and then he calls the time out
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Speaker 5: by rule, the truth of it is, you charge him.
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Speaker 5: What's the time out he called? He now has thrown
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Speaker 5: a flag that is on a play that isn't challengeable,
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Speaker 5: which he stopped the game by if you say it
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Speaker 5: that way and you charge him.
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Speaker 2: Another time out, you know.
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Speaker 5: So there was a lot of levels there and officials
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Speaker 5: like to not get to that place so saying that
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Speaker 5: the flag fell out of his hand, saying that he
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Speaker 5: kind of misinterpreted what we could what could be challenged.
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Speaker 5: And I went over there and corrected it real quick,
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Speaker 5: and let's just put it away and I can give
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Speaker 5: you a kind of a do over there.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 5: You try to stay away from that, right, And I
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Speaker 5: think that's kind of where we probably ended at the
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Speaker 5: end of the day with it.
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Speaker 2: But there were a lot of layers there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Gene, I'm gonna ask one more just on kind
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Speaker 6: of the spotty because to me, I don't get all
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Speaker 6: that frustrated with calls. I feel like there's you know,
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Speaker 6: it's not an easy thing to do with you guys,
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Speaker 6: referees even baseball umpires do and yet it's twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 6: To me, it feels like there should be some sort
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Speaker 6: of way of having micro chips on the tips of
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Speaker 6: the ball and around the center of it, some do
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Speaker 6: where you actually can use technology to know exactly where
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Speaker 6: the ball was, like where the forward progress stopped, and
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Speaker 6: then you'd have to sync that up to okay, well
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Speaker 6: when was the knee down? And that to me seems
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Speaker 6: like you could use technology to do it because there's
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Speaker 6: so many times where you see the two linesmen coming
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Speaker 6: in and one is a foot off of where the
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Speaker 6: other one is or a yard off of where the
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Speaker 6: other one is, and that can be the difference between
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Speaker 6: winning and losing a game. Would you be in for
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Speaker 6: instituting technology in the ball to kind of help you
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Speaker 6: guys or help the spots of the ball.
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think one hundred, Bucky, and I think
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Speaker 5: you hit it. I mean where it becomes really difficult
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Speaker 5: is and we've seen these many times too, right, and
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Speaker 5: that is when is the body part down with the
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Speaker 5: player down by contact by rule, and then let's look
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Speaker 5: to see where the ball is at that moment as well. Right,
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Speaker 5: So the chip in the ball is great if a
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Speaker 5: player is airborne and diving for the goal line, and
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Speaker 5: we could have a freeze frame there because the breaking
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Speaker 5: of the plane and the chip could put a sensor off.
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Speaker 5: When we have these plays in these massive bodies and
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Speaker 5: now we just see like the right shin once the
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Speaker 5: ankle rolls does go down. Okay, where's that football at
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Speaker 5: that point?
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Speaker 2: You know? How do we get that indicator? Like, how
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Speaker 2: does you know? Unless we just censored up.
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Speaker 5: Maybe we just put little mini sensors on every part
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Speaker 5: of every player's body that would put him down by
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Speaker 5: contact and the moment that that body part hits it
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Speaker 5: triggers the ball, you know, or something like that, which
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Speaker 5: would be a lot of sensors. I think it'd be
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Speaker 5: a lot of little little dots on your body. But
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Speaker 5: I think that's where they're running into that piece of
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Speaker 5: this where they can't just do exactly what he said,
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Speaker 5: because we do know and again, as you said, Bunky,
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Speaker 5: like two feet in this game would be the difference
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Speaker 5: of a possession which we all know or just so important, right,
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Speaker 5: so we want to get that thing right. And I
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Speaker 5: know when I worked at the line of scrimmage officials
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Speaker 5: in the NFL in the old days when we didn't
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Speaker 5: have even replay assists, they wore their ability to spot
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Speaker 5: footballs and be able to know when that body part
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Speaker 5: went down and where that ball was. That was like
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Speaker 5: their badge of arnor right. Like they really were detailed
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Speaker 5: personally with it. They were also challenged to have to
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Speaker 5: get them right without anybody helping either.
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Speaker 2: So I think their level of.
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Speaker 5: Awareness on really focusing there and knowing there's no safety
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Speaker 5: that might be or have been at a higher level
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Speaker 5: than maybe we are today when he replay can fix it,
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Speaker 5: you know, so just get in the neighborhood and then
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Speaker 5: replay can fix it. So but it is something you'd
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Speaker 5: love to see technology fix because we want to get
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Speaker 5: those right by the interest.
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Speaker 3: So you couldn't do like they do in long jump
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Speaker 3: and just have like a thin layer of sand over
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Speaker 3: the field and you see where the intention of the
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Speaker 3: ball is and then you just then you just rake
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Speaker 3: over it every between every play.
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Speaker 2: What do you think it's great? Something else that just
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Speaker 2: starts to float with the game.
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Speaker 5: Hold on a minute, there's a lot of you managed
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Speaker 5: to slid across the sand. There'd be like nine guys
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Speaker 5: out there in a bunker trying to get it all level.
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Speaker 2: You know, because we had a good push. You imagine
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Speaker 2: the divo that would create. That would be.
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Speaker 3: Great Geans territories with us. One last one from the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks game, there was a false start against our tight
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Speaker 3: end Aj Barner near the end of the first quarter
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Speaker 3: and people are still asking me about it on social
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Speaker 3: media and wanting me to ask you about it. Uh,
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Speaker 3: it just looked like a normal shift. We got flagged
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Speaker 3: with a false start.
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Speaker 5: Why head scratcher, look like a normal shift to meet?
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Speaker 2: Now? When they do, you know, when they do move
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Speaker 2: like that.
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Speaker 5: If a player, even though there are just shifting, what
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Speaker 5: happened to shift in a little more rough fashion.
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Speaker 2: Than what you would think would be normal, then.
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Speaker 5: You can always go on the box that they simulated
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Speaker 5: a snap or there was a simulation in there that
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Speaker 5: felt normal to me. You know, I kind of replayed
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Speaker 5: it four or times in real speed just to get
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Speaker 5: the essence of it so that I could at least
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Speaker 5: speak as honestly as I can. Just looks like a
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Speaker 5: normal step back, step off to my on and my
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Speaker 5: off and let's play football in a reaction by the
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Speaker 5: largest scrimmage official that I think they may want to
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Speaker 5: have back after looking at it.
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Speaker 3: Geene stertur with us right here on, Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 3: There was a driving rainstorm Saturday in the Buccaneers Panthers game,
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Speaker 3: and I think the only thing that was falling on
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Speaker 3: the ground harder were booze from Panthers fans about the officiating.
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Speaker 3: They won the award for most complaints about the officiating
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Speaker 3: over the weekend Panthers fans. There were several plays that
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Speaker 3: were brought into question. I think the one that bothered
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Speaker 3: Panther fans the most was an offensive pass interference against
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Speaker 3: tedaroa McMillan star wide receiver, where he did certainly make
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Speaker 3: contact with the defensive back, but I think a lot
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Speaker 3: of people thought that was just a wide receiver move.
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Speaker 3: So what was your take on that play and any
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Speaker 3: others that you would want to weigh in on?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as quick as I could do it for you, Chuck.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think some of that feverish stitch may have been,
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Speaker 5: you know, kind of initiated by the by the comments
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Speaker 5: from the from the color analysts. Quite honestly, to me,
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Speaker 5: that's OPI. That's just a file.
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Speaker 2: Sorry. Listen for offensive pass and appearance once.
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Speaker 5: You get beyond one yard in the NFL, uh and
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Speaker 5: before the ball is even thrown or anything of that nature.
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Speaker 5: Displacing a defensive back like you see him do there,
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Speaker 5: that's not hands fighting. He's displacing the defensive back and
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Speaker 5: taking him a step away from a play.
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Speaker 2: That's that's just a big file to me.
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Speaker 5: Now those that say, yeah, but why did the official
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Speaker 5: weight to throw the flag?
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Speaker 2: The flight comes too late.
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Speaker 5: I mean it looks like he thought about it and
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Speaker 5: then decided to stick it up Caroline, as you know
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Speaker 5: or whatever.
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Speaker 2: You can't throw.
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Speaker 5: Offensive passive deference until there's a pass. So when you
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Speaker 5: see that action happen and that receiver throws that player
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Speaker 5: not a hold just to throw away, kind of block
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Speaker 5: him away or discard him.
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Speaker 2: You're watching now.
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Speaker 5: And when that football leaves the quarterbacks fan, provided it's
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Speaker 5: a forward pass and not a backward pass the moment
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Speaker 5: it leaves his hand, then the flag goes down for
17:22
Speaker 5: offensive passive appearence because the offensive restriction occurs when the
17:26
Speaker 5: player's one yard beyond the line of scrimmage.
17:28
Speaker 2: I thought that was a layup to me.
17:31
Speaker 5: Then they were a little upset, if I remember correctly.
17:34
Speaker 2: On a they said it was.
17:35
Speaker 5: Fat entanglement and didn't think it was defensive passive afference
17:39
Speaker 5: because they thought their feet were tagled. Yes, their feet
17:41
Speaker 5: were tangled, but the defensive back was severely out of
17:44
Speaker 5: position and trying to close on a receiver who beat
17:47
Speaker 5: him egregiously. He never turns his head around to say,
17:50
Speaker 5: I'm playing the football and now our feet get tangled
17:53
Speaker 5: because we're both trying to adjust to the ball. He's
17:55
Speaker 5: just chasing someone because he got beat. When you're chasing
17:59
Speaker 5: someone like that, your feet get tied when it's a
18:01
Speaker 5: foul because you're just trying to close the gap and
18:04
Speaker 5: now you flipped me without adjusting to a football because
18:07
Speaker 5: you don't know what the ball is. Foul there as well.
18:10
Speaker 5: The one I think Carolina has a gripe with when
18:13
Speaker 5: a player is holding someone else's helmet at the end
18:16
Speaker 5: of the play and it doesn't match.
18:18
Speaker 2: The rest of your uniform. That usually is one that
18:21
Speaker 2: pana you know get you you.
18:23
Speaker 5: Know, going a little bit I remember my older brother
18:26
Speaker 5: Tony was on my crew and in the late Sarah
18:28
Speaker 5: Gusa Baltimore had that situation occurr and my brother was
18:32
Speaker 5: maybe in his fourth or fifth year, and he throws
18:35
Speaker 5: the flag and Sarah Gusa turns around and starts yelling
18:37
Speaker 5: at him, and you know, what are you doing? And
18:39
Speaker 5: he goes, take a look at your right hand, and
18:42
Speaker 5: Sarah goose To looked down. It was a Cleveland brown helmet.
18:44
Speaker 5: He goes, it's not matching your uniform, but.
18:47
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're in trouble here, and.
18:49
Speaker 5: And Goots, being the great guy that he was, he
18:52
Speaker 5: kind of tried to drop the helmet real quick, but
18:54
Speaker 5: he realized it was a foul, So that one I
18:57
Speaker 5: got to give to to the Carolina fans. The other two,
19:00
Speaker 5: quite honestly, I just thought those were appreciated plays. And
19:03
Speaker 5: I think sometimes when we as analysts go into that
19:07
Speaker 5: rabbit hole and start to say a little more than
19:09
Speaker 5: maybe the situation, you know, dictates, you can create a
19:13
Speaker 5: more feverish fitch. And I think that may have been
19:15
Speaker 5: the case of these two.
19:16
Speaker 3: Fair fair Maybe everybody was just tired of being soggy
19:18
Speaker 3: that day, all right, last one I gotta ask you
19:21
Speaker 3: about the end of the old Miss Georgia game. And look,
19:26
Speaker 3: I realized, letter of the law, there was still a
19:28
Speaker 3: second on the clock in that crazy situation where there
19:32
Speaker 3: was a safety. But would you have just said, hey,
19:36
Speaker 3: let's just expire this thing, or would you have been
19:39
Speaker 3: the official that allows the halftime stage to be brought
19:44
Speaker 3: out in the middle of the field twice twice gem
19:48
Speaker 3: and then had it cleared off along with all the
19:51
Speaker 3: fans and confetti and there was ice on the field.
19:54
Speaker 3: Would you have just gathered with everybody and said, I
19:56
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but my watch says the game
19:59
Speaker 3: is over. What would you have done in that situation?
20:02
Speaker 8: Man?
20:02
Speaker 5: That's again, this is this whole replay fraction of a
20:05
Speaker 5: secondence of a second thing that the box were in.
20:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have done exactly what you said.
20:11
Speaker 5: And by rule, even though the receiving team doesn't touch
20:14
Speaker 5: that onside kick and the kicking team recovers their own
20:17
Speaker 5: onside kick, legally, by rule, an entire second doesn't have
20:22
Speaker 5: to expire.
20:22
Speaker 2: It could be a fraction. Right now. In the old days, before.
20:27
Speaker 5: We got into this micro managing, our kind of rule
20:30
Speaker 5: on the field was look at one second's going to
20:32
Speaker 5: come off the clock. We've got to see it change
20:34
Speaker 5: because we did have something occur here and even though
20:37
Speaker 5: the kicking team can advance it and yes, it's dead immediately,
20:41
Speaker 5: well we have to start the play to stop the play.
20:43
Speaker 2: So we used to be able to say, you know, it's.
20:45
Speaker 5: A one now in this day of hence, you kind
20:49
Speaker 5: of get in that moment and then, as you said,
20:53
Speaker 5: an awful lot.
20:54
Speaker 2: Of hard work for the ground crew. Man.
20:55
Speaker 5: You want to talk about people like raking the sand
20:58
Speaker 5: on the field, imagine that grounds through looking at everybody going,
21:02
Speaker 5: wait about what? You can't bring the confetti back into
21:05
Speaker 5: the ceiling here?
21:06
Speaker 2: You know, it was kind of a.
21:08
Speaker 5: Premature, you know what I mean? My goodness, Graces, the
21:11
Speaker 5: party's over, you know, let's all have a cigar.
21:14
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would have liked to see that done.
21:16
Speaker 2: Old school.
21:18
Speaker 3: That was a mess. All right, Jane, where are you
21:20
Speaker 3: going to be this weekend?
21:23
Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Florida.
21:24
Speaker 5: We've got the Buffalo Bills at the Jacks excited now
21:28
Speaker 5: because you all know and listen the way we're playing
21:30
Speaker 5: the Seattle. What a great situation to be in. You
21:35
Speaker 5: talk about the advantages of home field what crowds can do,
21:39
Speaker 5: what fans can do. It's a huge That's what made
21:42
Speaker 5: the game us We really so huge, and Kyle Shanahan
21:44
Speaker 5: knew that instead of Seattle.
21:46
Speaker 2: So just kudos to.
21:48
Speaker 5: The fan base, to the team, and now from an
21:51
Speaker 5: officiating window and everybody else.
21:53
Speaker 2: This is when it gets really fun, guys, you know.
21:55
Speaker 5: I mean, this is when this thing cranks up another
21:58
Speaker 5: notch and it's just exciting times. And for me personally,
22:02
Speaker 5: I get the luxury to be with Kim and Tony
22:05
Speaker 5: and Tracy on location for the next three weeks, so
22:08
Speaker 5: I get to feel that stadium vibe again right in
22:11
Speaker 5: the tailgates and the colisseums are loaded with angry people
22:16
Speaker 5: and excited people, and it's all about to happen. It's
22:21
Speaker 5: a great month, a great time in an unbelievable week.
22:24
Speaker 5: This week for football lovers, what from Thursday until sometime
22:28
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22:31
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Speaker 2: So doesn't get better than this, guys.
22:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for what it's worth, I think you've got
22:41
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22:44
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22:47
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23:07
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23:10
Speaker 3: the games for a red hot hockey team all of
23:13
Speaker 3: a sudden. And you know what they said at the
23:16
Speaker 3: end of Unbreakable. It was the kids. They called me
23:20
Speaker 3: miss the glass. What's the key to the turnaround? It's
23:23
Speaker 3: the kids. Everett fits you. It is Winterton and Myers
23:28
Speaker 3: and Melanson. Where did this spark come from? We got
23:32
Speaker 3: a hot hockey team all of a sudden.
23:34
Speaker 8: Listen you you've got a fourth line and you've got.
23:38
Speaker 4: A bunch of kids who.
23:41
Speaker 8: I mean it sounds very cliche, but they play the
23:44
Speaker 8: game the right way, and it's almost as if they
23:47
Speaker 8: each have something to.
23:49
Speaker 4: Prove the way that they're playing.
23:51
Speaker 8: They're playing like they could be taken out of the
23:54
Speaker 8: lineup at any given time, and it's it's been real
23:57
Speaker 8: refreshing seat. I've been watching and reading a lot of
24:00
Speaker 8: stuff from the national experts, if you will, about Jacob
24:05
Speaker 8: Allanson and how he's really helped set the tone for
24:09
Speaker 8: this team. He had four hits the other night. He's
24:11
Speaker 8: what eleven games, ten games in to the season, and
24:16
Speaker 8: he already has fifty some odd hits. I mean, that
24:19
Speaker 8: is absolutely bonkers. And he gets his first goal last night.
24:23
Speaker 8: He has a couple of really strong chances as well.
24:26
Speaker 8: I mean, he probably could have four or five goals
24:30
Speaker 8: by now. Remember he scored fifty at the junior level,
24:33
Speaker 8: not five years ago. So Jacob Malanson is a player
24:38
Speaker 8: that when you're looking for an identity, he is the
24:42
Speaker 8: type of player that you want other guys to model
24:46
Speaker 8: their game after, especially a team like this.
24:49
Speaker 6: Okay, well, I mean, just real quick on kind of
24:51
Speaker 6: a subtle note, then, I mean, is that a guy
24:52
Speaker 6: maybe I should pick up for my fantasy hockey team
24:55
Speaker 6: that I got Jacob Molons.
24:58
Speaker 4: Depending on what that's you keep.
25:01
Speaker 8: I mean, if it's Stator League. Okay, offensively again, you know,
25:11
Speaker 8: I mean, he's not going to be throwing up Matt
25:12
Speaker 8: Evanier's numbers. Maybe I don't know, but I mean, if
25:15
Speaker 8: you're if you're looking, if you've got more of a
25:17
Speaker 8: a physical league.
25:19
Speaker 4: If you have more of a underlying.
25:22
Speaker 8: Metrics league than I would, I would pick up Jacob
25:25
Speaker 8: Allotson for sure.
25:26
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you what though, Speaking of passes and
25:29
Speaker 3: assists and the kids, that pass from Myers to right
25:32
Speaker 3: last night was one of the best passes I can
25:35
Speaker 3: remember watching hockey.
25:37
Speaker 4: That was I mean, that was this pure skill play.
25:41
Speaker 8: And and when you when you talk about a guy
25:45
Speaker 8: like Shane Wright or Matty Benier's or Berkeley Catton, you know,
25:49
Speaker 8: the young centers on this team, the guys that you're
25:53
Speaker 8: hopefully in the next two to three years going to
25:57
Speaker 8: fully turn the keys to the car over to I mean,
26:00
Speaker 8: those are the type of plays that you want to
26:02
Speaker 8: see when when you're looking at other teams in the
26:04
Speaker 8: league who are in first place, perennial playoff teams, we
26:08
Speaker 8: talk about how the Kraken those are the superstar They
26:10
Speaker 8: don't have this, they don't have that. That's a superstar play, right.
26:14
Speaker 8: Those are the plays that McKinnon and McDavid and Tobrinkett
26:21
Speaker 8: and Kit Chuck and Robertson. Those are the plays that
26:25
Speaker 8: we're talking about that you make in tight. These are
26:28
Speaker 8: the guys that SKay late after practice every single day.
26:32
Speaker 8: They're working with Jess Campbell on extra skill work as well.
26:36
Speaker 8: I mean, it really just goes to show you the
26:38
Speaker 8: commitment that the younger players on this team, the Coachella
26:43
Speaker 8: Valley kids and the guys who who are our Prize
26:47
Speaker 8: are primed.
26:48
Speaker 4: Employees for a long career in this league.
26:50
Speaker 8: That's the work they're putting in so they can do
26:53
Speaker 8: stuff like that in real time.
26:54
Speaker 6: I mean, we're watching it feels like just last week
26:57
Speaker 6: when we were talking that this team was down here
27:00
Speaker 6: at the bottom of the standings.
27:01
Speaker 4: I think at one point it doesn't feel like last week.
27:04
Speaker 4: It was last weekend.
27:04
Speaker 6: Okay, then I'm yeah, I wasn't far off or I
27:07
Speaker 6: was right on with that, But now they're a point
27:09
Speaker 6: out of first place. I mean, is this a normal
27:12
Speaker 6: type of a turnaround or is this something that you're
27:14
Speaker 6: that you're witnessing that is even kind of maybe closer
27:17
Speaker 6: to of historic as far as the way in which
27:20
Speaker 6: the team's playing compared to where they were.
27:23
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't say it's normal. This season isn't normal.
27:27
Speaker 8: You're you're in a condensed schedule because of the Olympics.
27:31
Speaker 8: I mean, the Kraken tonight will wrap up their fourth
27:34
Speaker 8: consecutive set of.
27:36
Speaker 4: Back to back games.
27:37
Speaker 8: Each of their last after tonight, each of their previous
27:41
Speaker 8: eight games will have been in back to back situation,
27:44
Speaker 8: which I've never heard of. The crack and play every
27:47
Speaker 8: other day, literally every other day for the rest of
27:51
Speaker 8: the month. They don't have two more days off until
27:54
Speaker 8: I think it's January thirty first and February first, the
27:57
Speaker 8: first and the second, something like that. So this season
28:01
Speaker 8: isn't normal. And if you look at the Western Conference,
28:04
Speaker 8: it is so stacked up. Even the last place in
28:07
Speaker 8: the West is only five points back of the final
28:10
Speaker 8: playoff spot. You go out East, the Seattle Kraken would
28:13
Speaker 8: still be in a tie for second to last in
28:16
Speaker 8: the conference, five points back of a playoff spot out East.
28:19
Speaker 8: So I do think that what the Kraken have been
28:22
Speaker 8: able to do, given their situation, given the place that
28:26
Speaker 8: they're in, is definitely historic. You're now on your third,
28:30
Speaker 8: uh your third ever eight game point streaking franchise, So
28:34
Speaker 8: I mean they're they're they're finding ways to win games.
28:38
Speaker 8: If you look at the last eight games, they've scored
28:41
Speaker 8: three or four goals in seven of those eight games.
28:44
Speaker 8: They've allowed one or two goals in seven of those
28:48
Speaker 8: eight games. So it's the system they're finally finding out
28:52
Speaker 8: and figuring out how to to turn some of these
28:56
Speaker 8: bad losses into wins and and history or might be
29:00
Speaker 8: a little bit early, however, I do think that they're
29:04
Speaker 8: on that path of this is going to be a
29:07
Speaker 8: team that if they keep playing this way, which all
29:10
Speaker 8: sides point to them being able to, they're gonna go
29:13
Speaker 8: into the Olympic Break in a pretty good spot.
29:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, and back to back again tonight as they play
29:18
Speaker 3: trying right back around face the Bruins tonight. That's three
29:21
Speaker 3: in the last fifteen days. I mean, is I take
29:23
Speaker 3: it every one in the National Hockey League's playing a
29:26
Speaker 3: schedule like this?
29:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are.
29:28
Speaker 8: And again it all goes back to the Olympic break
29:31
Speaker 8: because the NHL wants to get all eighty two games
29:35
Speaker 8: in the same window. I mean, you're day one was
29:39
Speaker 8: October what fifteenth? And then right now, I think Game
29:43
Speaker 8: seven of the Cup Final projects to be around June
29:46
Speaker 8: twenty fifth around there. So they're still trying to fit
29:50
Speaker 8: all of these games into the same window because you've
29:53
Speaker 8: got three weeks off. So everyone's playing a schedule like this,
29:56
Speaker 8: everyone's injured, everyone's getting hurt. You're hoping the Olympics don't
30:00
Speaker 8: compound that at all. Luckily for Seattle, there's only three
30:04
Speaker 8: regulars going to the Olympics, with Grubauer for Germany, Tolvenen
30:08
Speaker 8: and Coppo Cocko for Finland. But so the Krakens should
30:12
Speaker 8: come out of that break in a relatively good spot.
30:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just yeah, that makes total mathematical sense.
30:19
Speaker 3: I was just speaking, are they just are they having
30:21
Speaker 3: as many of these back to back games as what
30:23
Speaker 3: I mean a year ago. If you had told me
30:24
Speaker 3: they were going to have to play three back to
30:26
Speaker 3: back games in fifteen days, I'm like, well, that's three wins, max,
30:31
Speaker 3: if that's going to happen. But it's been a little
30:33
Speaker 3: different this year. All right, So Bruins tonight, I mean,
30:37
Speaker 3: classic organization, classic uniform, and a similar record to Seattle
30:43
Speaker 3: right now, So what can we expect this evening? Give
30:46
Speaker 3: me a breakdown.
30:47
Speaker 8: I think a very similar game to the Kraken honestly.
30:52
Speaker 8: I mean they're they're a little bit more offensive than
30:55
Speaker 8: Seattle with David Pasherock and Morgan Geek, which.
30:57
Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, how did he turn into a star?
31:00
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness?
31:01
Speaker 8: He led the NHL in goals in the calendar year
31:05
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five.
31:06
Speaker 4: He had fifty goals in the year twenty twenty five.
31:09
Speaker 8: So and he doesn't show any signs of slowing down,
31:12
Speaker 8: although he only has got four goals in his last
31:15
Speaker 8: thirteen twelve thirteen games coming into tonight, so maybe he's cooled.
31:19
Speaker 4: Off a little bit. But you're gonna get a very
31:20
Speaker 4: hard working team.
31:22
Speaker 8: Markle Sturm, the coach over there, he is a coach
31:25
Speaker 8: who wants his teams to work hard, not unlike Layane Lambert.
31:28
Speaker 8: So tonight, with the Kraken coming off of the back
31:31
Speaker 8: to back, Joey decort is gonna have to be strong.
31:33
Speaker 8: Blayne Lambert has said multiple times this season, our goaltending
31:37
Speaker 8: has to be our best player. Joey's gonna have to
31:40
Speaker 8: be that here tonight. But I have a feeling this
31:43
Speaker 8: is gonna be another you know, I say classic. It's
31:46
Speaker 8: only been forty games in the season, but this is
31:48
Speaker 8: gonna be another I think classic kracking game, a nice
31:51
Speaker 8: tight two to one, three to one defensive game. But
31:55
Speaker 8: I mean, as long as you're putting up points, as
31:57
Speaker 8: long as you're still winning, I don't care if it's
31:58
Speaker 8: won nothing.
31:59
Speaker 4: You know that that's what's important.
32:01
Speaker 8: So if they can continue what's made them successful. They've
32:04
Speaker 8: won two of their last three game twos of back
32:07
Speaker 8: to backs. They've got points in three straight game twos
32:10
Speaker 8: of back to back, So I mean an opportunity for
32:13
Speaker 8: them to do something that they haven't done since year
32:15
Speaker 8: three of this organization.
32:16
Speaker 4: And that's when three games on a back.
32:18
Speaker 2: To back in a row.
32:19
Speaker 3: All right, well close with this. What is the broadcast schedule?
32:22
Speaker 3: Are you radio or TV? What's going on? What is
32:24
Speaker 3: happening tonight?
32:25
Speaker 4: I am telling I am radio tonight.
32:28
Speaker 8: I've got I do when John is on national duties,
32:31
Speaker 8: when we are on the road, I do the road game.
32:34
Speaker 8: So I've got Monday in New York. I've gotten next
32:38
Speaker 8: Wednesday in Jersey on television, and then i have February fourth,
32:43
Speaker 8: which is a Wednesday in LA and then I have
32:45
Speaker 8: April sixth, I believe, which is in Winnipeg. So as
32:49
Speaker 8: of now, I got four more TV games the rest
32:53
Speaker 8: of the year, so I will not I won't stray
32:55
Speaker 8: too far from home.
32:56
Speaker 4: I promise.
32:56
Speaker 3: All right, Thank you sir. We appreciate great to hear
32:59
Speaker 3: from your happy new year, and we'll be listening tonight.
33:02
Speaker 4: Fellas Ashley, Happy new year. Enjoyed the bye week?
33:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much and sorry sorry about them.
33:08
Speaker 3: You know what's happened up there in Detroit? You know
33:11
Speaker 3: we we love you up there in Detroit.
33:12
Speaker 4: What do you mean the Pistons are crushing it me?
33:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
33:15
Speaker 4: The number one team, greats are killing it.
33:20
Speaker 8: Why you're apologizing for the first place NBA team?
33:23
Speaker 4: Thank you very much for yes. I don't know.
33:26
Speaker 3: I get a freaking f for that comment.
33:28
Speaker 7: Red Wing Journey first.
33:30
Speaker 4: Red Wing Jerns first. Yea, Tigers are projecting to be
33:34
Speaker 4: well this year. That's all that. That's all that there is.
33:36
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, you're right.
33:38
Speaker 8: Michigan's got a new head coach, the football team, everything,
33:41
Speaker 8: Michigan basketball is number two.
33:43
Speaker 4: Why don't you apologizing? It's pretty good over in the
33:45
Speaker 4: Minton right now. Nothing nothing else is going on. Man.
33:52
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34:44
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Speaker 3: matter if he is the head coach of the Dallas Renegades.
34:52
Speaker 3: He's held firm to his commitment to us. Also, the
34:55
Speaker 3: old Judge will stop by at nine thirty this morning
34:58
Speaker 3: as well. Of course, we do have an extra week,
35:02
Speaker 3: you know, or in the buy and all of that
35:04
Speaker 3: with breaking down the Seahawks before we actually will even
35:08
Speaker 3: know an opponent. Can't even break down an opponent yet
35:10
Speaker 3: because we won the buy. I don't know if you.
35:11
Speaker 2: Heard, I did hear?
35:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't even play this weekend, so yeah, yeah,
35:16
Speaker 3: I mean maybe you'd get a jump start on breaking
35:18
Speaker 3: down your opponent. But you know, we got that buy
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Speaker 3: go buy and all that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, God of accomplished that, a breakdown all four of them.
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Speaker 2: That it could be possibly.
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Speaker 3: We got time to do that. I suppose we could
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Speaker 3: get into that. But you know when you got to buy,
35:33
Speaker 3: yeah you just chill. Yeah, you just got idle time.
35:36
Speaker 3: So but we will certainly be fixated on the Seahawks
35:41
Speaker 3: here for the next let's say month on the radio program.
35:45
Speaker 3: And and so is America all of a sudden, and
35:48
Speaker 3: they just can't let go of this Sam Darnold concern.
35:51
Speaker 3: I just saw another one prominent talking show talking head
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Speaker 3: shows some person under the most pressure in the playoffs,
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald, Sam Donald, Hey, Josh Allen, I mean, how
36:06
Speaker 3: about how about how about that Sam Darnald has played
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Speaker 3: one playoff game because he got off to a rough
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Speaker 3: start in his career. He was not good at the
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Speaker 3: beginning of his career, but in the last two years
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Speaker 3: he's won twenty eight regular season games, has one playoff game,
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Speaker 3: plays bad, and he has been labeled a postseason choker.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I for his sake, not even for mine,
36:30
Speaker 3: not even for the listener's sake, not even for Seattle's sake.
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Speaker 3: I owe for Sam Donald's sake. Man, he shuts some
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Speaker 3: fools up here in the next couple of weeks.
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Speaker 6: I don't know for sure if those that need to
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Speaker 6: be shut up will shut up unless he wins a
36:44
Speaker 6: Super Bowl, right, I mean, I think there's some people
36:46
Speaker 6: that are just gonna be stuck on it. I mean,
36:49
Speaker 6: I think there's there's plenty of really good quarterbacks that
36:52
Speaker 6: didn't win a Super Bowl. There's plenty of them. I mean,
36:55
Speaker 6: Peyton Manning, John Elway. There's a bunch of them that
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Speaker 6: were a Hall of famers that scuffled a little bit
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Speaker 6: in their first couple of times in the postseason.
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Speaker 3: Well what Matt Stafford, what did he thirty five when
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Speaker 3: he finally won?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Super Bowl?
37:09
Speaker 2: Yeah?
37:09
Speaker 7: And yet I mean it just seems odd.
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Speaker 6: I mean I get that you you only have one
37:14
Speaker 6: chance to make a first impression, and yet if you
37:16
Speaker 6: get drafted by the Jets, then good luck because you're
37:18
Speaker 6: gonna need a second chance. And and you know, it
37:21
Speaker 6: just is what it is. There's a there's a growth.
37:23
Speaker 6: I mean, I get his fans were impatient. If your
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Speaker 6: team drafts you and expects you to come in and
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Speaker 6: be the next franchise quarterback and you struggle, then you're
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Speaker 6: going to be disappointed. That said, before Sam Darnold came here,
37:38
Speaker 6: he had obviously figured some things out. He had obviously
37:41
Speaker 6: rebounded from what was his first taste of the NFL.
37:46
Speaker 6: And even though yeah, he ended up having a bad
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Speaker 6: game in the playoffs last year and even a bad
37:52
Speaker 6: game in that that that final regular season game that
37:55
Speaker 6: that cost him the first round by or or a
37:58
Speaker 6: chance at that, they I think that it's just.
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Speaker 7: What he's done here this season. Yeah, he had a
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Speaker 7: bad game.
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Speaker 6: He had maybe a bad game and a half where
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Speaker 6: he turned the ball over too much and it costs
38:10
Speaker 6: you a w and puts you to some degree behind
38:13
Speaker 6: the eight ball.
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Speaker 7: But it's kind of like a oh.
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Speaker 6: Man cal Rowly, you know, he would zero for four
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Speaker 6: or three strikeouts and left eight guys on base. That
38:20
Speaker 6: guy is trash. Well, that's just dumb. It's one game
38:23
Speaker 6: out of one sixty two. One game out of seventeen
38:27
Speaker 6: games does not season make And obviously at the end
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Speaker 6: of it, you end up going fourteen and three. You
38:32
Speaker 6: win the toughest division of football. You're a legitimate pro bowler.
38:35
Speaker 6: I don't give Pro Bowl nods to everybody because if
38:38
Speaker 6: you're the alternate alternate that gets into it.
38:41
Speaker 7: You're not really a pro bowler.
38:42
Speaker 6: Right the Pro bowlers are in the post, they're in
38:44
Speaker 6: the playoffs, and you just got it because no one
38:47
Speaker 6: else wanted to go or could go. So but he's
38:50
Speaker 6: a legitimate number two. He's got the third best offense.
38:54
Speaker 6: He also, at times throughout the course of this win streak,
38:58
Speaker 6: they've been on to finish and win the number and
39:00
Speaker 6: seed has played the game based on how the game
39:04
Speaker 6: is going. Hence, if the defense isn't giving up a lot,
39:07
Speaker 6: then maybe you're not taking as many shots downfield so
39:09
Speaker 6: that you aren't turning the ball over.
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Speaker 2: Whatever it might be.
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Speaker 6: To me, it's just it's silly to not be able
39:14
Speaker 6: to just watch what the guy's doing. It not in
39:16
Speaker 6: just a microscope of one play and then hang on
39:19
Speaker 6: to that when there was fifty other plays that he
39:22
Speaker 6: made that game that were not bad, and some of
39:24
Speaker 6: them were great. I think it's just I think it's
39:26
Speaker 6: low hanging fruit and a lot of people can't wait
39:28
Speaker 6: to jump on it.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, how many guys have even won a
39:30
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? The quarterback that are in the National Football
39:33
Speaker 3: League right now? I mean Mahomes, Rogers, Stafford and Hurts. Yeah,
39:38
Speaker 3: I think that's it. So is everybody else in the
39:41
Speaker 3: league just a choker? I mean, he's played. Some people
39:44
Speaker 3: would say he started in one playoff game. That's the
39:47
Speaker 3: part that bothers me. And he played terrible. Yeah, nobody's
39:50
Speaker 3: getting around that. Nobody said he was. He's been a
39:52
Speaker 3: terrible court He was a terrible quarterback when he came
39:54
Speaker 3: in the league, but also he was in a terrible situation.
39:57
Speaker 3: Matt Stafford was outstanding. Matt staff It's been outstanding since
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Speaker 3: he came into the league. But he wasn't a champion
40:04
Speaker 3: until he got to the right circumstance and the right
40:07
Speaker 3: coaching staff around the right kind of talent. Maybe Sam
40:10
Speaker 3: Darnold's finally around the right coaching staff with the right
40:13
Speaker 3: kind of talent and has learned a few things and
40:16
Speaker 3: has grown a little bit, And maybe we shouldn't just
40:20
Speaker 3: judge him off of one bad postseason game. I would
40:25
Speaker 3: imagine if you look back through history, a lot of
40:27
Speaker 3: guys played poorly in their first postseason game. Yeah, and that,
40:31
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that bothers me is then everyone's saying, oh, well, look,
40:34
Speaker 3: I mean he chokes in the playoffs. You can't say
40:36
Speaker 3: that in one game. No, you just can't.
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Speaker 2: No.
40:39
Speaker 3: No, So anyway, I mean, yes, does he have proving
40:43
Speaker 3: to do. Yes, so does everybody else in this postseason,
40:47
Speaker 3: with the exception of maybe Hurts and Rogers, but even
40:51
Speaker 3: Rodgers has some proving to do based off to prove he.
40:54
Speaker 7: Still has it.
40:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, it Hurts has to prove that what you've seen
40:58
Speaker 6: out of that defending championship season this year is just
41:01
Speaker 6: a mirage that they will rebound and look like the
41:04
Speaker 6: championship caliber guys. That everybody has something to prove to
41:07
Speaker 6: every week that you go out there. And so it's
41:09
Speaker 6: not like you can't criticize him, It's just be realistic.
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Speaker 3: He's fourteen and three and he's not going to be
41:14
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by the moment. If there's anything about Sam that
41:17
Speaker 3: you've noticed that, and it's a positive and a negative,
41:20
Speaker 3: he comes back the very next play, doesn't matter if
41:23
Speaker 3: he fumbled her through and just wings it. Now, that
41:26
Speaker 3: might work to his detriment at times, but there's no
41:29
Speaker 3: way that he's succumbing to pressure. That's just not the
41:33
Speaker 3: way he's built. No, I mean, that is certainly one
41:35
Speaker 3: thing about him that has been quite evident. He can
41:38
Speaker 3: make a terrible play, just like all quarterbacks make a
41:42
Speaker 3: terrible play on an occasion, and he comes back the
41:44
Speaker 3: right next time and throws an even more risky put
41:47
Speaker 3: pass the next time because he's just not He's just
41:51
Speaker 3: not wired that way. So I'm glad we got him
41:54
Speaker 3: at quarterback. I'm not worried about it, and can't wait
41:58
Speaker 3: to get this thing going in a couple of weeks.
41:59
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