Latest / Scouting the League / A forgotten Pathway - The Junior College Route - w/ guest Kyle Morgan
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- Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: What do Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Alvin Camara, Steve Smith Jr., and Levante David all have in common? Well, if you didn't guess correctly based on today's video title, yes, it's that they all made stops at a JUCO on their way to their NFL career. Junior College is an often forgotten about path when it comes to the collegiate landscape, but perhaps one that needs more consideration. So today, Kyle Morgan, author and founder of JUCO Insider Report, joins me to talk JUCO landscape, where the value is, and so much more. Really fascinating conversation, agents, programs, colleges, definitely a lot in here to hear. So make sure you stick around. Before we jump in, though, make sure you head over, like, subscribe, and share this podcast wherever you are listening and hopefully watching as well. If it is on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or that video portion on YouTube, hit those buttons. Subscribing and commenting is where you can really help us out. 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Today's guest, now Kyle Morgan, the founder of JUCO Insider Report, does work all over the football landscape and is a guy that if you don't know him, you need to get to know him. Follow him over at JUCOINSIREP on Twitter. His personal is Kyle Morgan underscore FB. So let's get into it today with Kyle. Well, I'm excited to get into it today with a guy in the football world that I've gotten to know the last couple years. Now it was a handshake at the recruiting and personnel symposium not so long ago. A guy that I can now call a friend. He is Kyle Morgan. He is the creator, one of the head honchos over at JUCO Insider Report. Kyle, you've been a longtime listener, always commenting, you know, helping us out, doing whatever we can. It's fun. It's exciting to finally get you on the podcast. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, thanks for having me on and appreciate what you do and you know, I was gonna say, longtime listener, first time caller. So thanks again for having me on. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, yeah. No, it's and and and it's funny the way again the football world evolves, the way the way everything goes. Again, there is so much where hey we're you're texting with somebody, sources, scouts, you know, the number of agents I've never met in person, and yet, you know, you you bring guys in, you negotiate deals. Again, it was kind of that where again, man, this Kyle guy seems to like the podcast, you know, comment. And again, next thing you know, we're both in Nashville shaking hands and The relationship is grown. Again, that is a lesson for anybody out there that you never know where it's going to start. Again, good people communicating that love football, that are trying to find a spot in the industry as as we are on the outside. Again, love the scouting world, love to be in it. There's nothing like being in a team, but again, we've we've developed our own team. on the outside, which keeps us in it. And again, providing value, doing our thing. So again, we're going to get into all that today. we're going to focus on JUCOs. Kyle, you you've got the JUCO insider report, JUCOIInsider Report dot com. If you want to check it out as you're listening today, make sure you check it out for agents and for college programs. No matter what level, make sure you're checking it out. We're going to talk about that today. But before we get into just the specific product, we're going to talk about JUCOs because this is one where Again, there is a stigma. There is there is an idea of what a JUCO is. There are certain questions NFL scouts are absolutely going to be asking if there is a JUCO transfer on your profile. But JUCO is there's been a lot of really good players over there. There's good contributing players now on some of these good at college football teams. There's big time NFL guys that were JUCO players. So we're gonna talk about JUCO kind of Big picture here. you're tied in as anybody, obviously running your JUCO insider report. From your landscape, you're talking about it. What's maybe the biggest misconception about JUCO? JUKO's in general, JUKOs in today's landscape of college football that people just have wrong. Kyle Morgan: think the evolution of the JUCO space has evolved over time, at least front through the lens of these college coaches. Whereas, you know, before it may have been you know, they're looking for immediate help, immediate depth, that sort of thing. and now, you know, and and the flip side of that is you had the coaches who didn't want to turn over rosters so quickly. Well then through COVID and post COVID, you had a lot of these roster limitations imposed, through, you know, sixth and seventh year players, and that pushed a lot of the high school talent down to lower levels, JUCO being one of them. There just wasn't roster availabilities for these players. And so you had really good players being pushed down just through the political nature that that came of that. And so you know, as far as the stigmas tied to that. You still have a lot of coaches that haven't gotten over what they thought JUCO used to be and versus what it currently is. And it's not filled with just, you know, a locker room full of character issues and and non qualifiers. it it's it's teams and programs built through players that maybe had a senior year injury. And maybe they're dropped. Maybe they're a really good football player and they got dropped from a a scholarship opportunity to a four-year program just because of the injury, something not in their control. good kid, good grades academically, they just need to rehab, put film out, and then try to, you know, move up from there. So you know that that's the biggest misconception that that I face is just kind of fighting that stigma. of the the character and and grade issues and not coachable athletes, that sort of stuff. If anything that I've seen, these these kids are more driven because, you know, they're they're trying to get out of the mud and and you know, continue their football career and they don't have somebody holding their hand like s some of these four year programs, you know, cater to to to some of these players. So if anything, you've got a more motivated player, you've got a somebody that's, you know, one or two years older, more developed, have put some weight on. you know, it it's an incredible space to mature physically, and then, you know, just kind of mature from a responsibility standpoint too. you don't always know what you're getting with high school kids when they go away to school. And so this gives them an opportunity to, you know, kinda continue that maturation process and and become an adult and and then that translates into a better, more reliable football player. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, yeah. Again, you you hit on it where in today's day and age where it's not about recruiting, developing, playing. See again, we we we talk about again some of these rosters, 60, 70 percent of a roster is churned over. So these guys that are going to JUKOs, you are absolutely seeing maybe it's one year. It's not, hey, my standard two years. It's hey, one go have a great year. Do those developmental things, do the right things. Again, the mindset has changed because NFL Scouts, it used to be, you assume one of two things. Either this kid was a non-qualifier, academics were not right. They either didn't take care of business because one, they just were not flat smart enough, and they didn't have the help, they didn't get the resources, they made some poor decisions as far as their transcripts go. Again, There were those guys where then that leads to a whole set of questions on all right, how smart is this player? Can this player actually learn? Again, maybe because everything in football has trickled down, I'd make the there's probably less guys if they know they have the ability, they're gonna do the things because now these guys are getting recruited in high school and signing with agents in high school. So that one, and then again, you get your really late developmental guys that are maybe outstanding track guys or Really skinny tight ends, big long again, but football was it for And again, that's where you said that that development, that maturity. I'm gonna go in there. For some of these players, JUCO is the better avenue than Division III, Division II offers, preferred walk ons, even it may be a low level G five, because I know I'm gonna go in play, be the guy. The so so because of those multiple factors. The maturity, like you said, of these players that are coming out of the JUKOs has certainly changed. Kyle Morgan: percent and I would even say any any level you could go think of these offers that these these kids get and it could be the best logo right a blue blood program are you gonna go there sit the bench play scout team you're not getting better right where they could go and and and put up some really good film and now they're now now they're a commodity And they're gonna end up making more money in the long run. So that would be my, you know, if I'm advising, and that's not a you know, a blanket advisement across the board, but but certainly there's some that you know wanna sign and commit to their their biggest offer and and that long term wise might not be the best fit for them. you know, so the worst thing to do is to be in the transfer portal without any film. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Hundred percent. Yep. Kyle Morgan: Or with just or with just practice film. And and you're seeing a lot of that happen and a lot of it can be avoided, especially with the five for five coming coming down the pike Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Mm-hmm. Kyle Morgan: here. I would venture to guess you're gonna see a lot more that maybe go the path of you know, instead of running down and covering kicks as a freshman, I can go to to JUCO, become all conference, all American. And then, I'm only on that campus for six months. Tops. Right? And Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Yeah. Kyle Morgan: then they're portaled out and they've got a much larger you know signing package waiting for them. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. That that that opportunity becomes again better for everybody. And again, it's one where is is is this landscape is changing. Again, we kind of talked about at the beginning. Agents who are oftentimes signing these players as high school athletes. Again, there's something to them. There are so many, again, they may not be NFLPA certified. There's certainly some still good NIL only agents out there that that have to think about this route. Again, Development at a P4 may be the right spot for some kids. Juco may be the spot for some of these other guys who again, you've just you've got to get on the field. You can't just be a punching bag and practice and you know be happy to wear the logo because again, it's about what's what's best for this individual player. you talked about the five for five. We're all assuming, again. Hopefully correctly that that five for five ruling that's g that's gonna become standard. That's what everybody's operating from a roster standpoint, which again goes into everything with PCSA. Everybody's assuming most of this PCSA protect College Sports Act, which we talked about a couple weeks ago on the podcast. Make sure you go check that one out if you haven't. We're all assuming a lot of this is gonna take place, which means that that single transfer from P4 schools from four year institutions is gonna be in place and that is gonna be one of the spots where JUKOs could end up with a with a unique advantage. Talk about how JUKOs are starting to think about fitting into this PCSX. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, and and really, what do we really know at this point? Probably not a whole lot. But, you know, a lot of assumptions. There will be lawyers involved at every step of the way, regardless of what what they rule. So, you know, I would venture to guess that you know, if a player goes to a junior college out of high school that they're not going to be docked for one transfer up to a four year program. I would also venture to guess that a four-year signee coming back to the junior college ranks you know for for grade issues, whatever. And then, you know, there's nowhere to go from there. So they're gonna have to award that player another opportunity, you know, to to graduate with the AA and then move it back to a four year. So I don't know that it's gonna hinder the tran number of transfers that that these players can do until they're at a four year. I know there's terminology in there that states, higher education institution, which is a gray area, right, that can be used. but at the I would guess that we're gonna see a a separation here where the junior college programs are still gonna operate, status quo, the four-year pro programs are gonna operate with this assumption, and then there's gonna be some middle ground that'll be determined at some point. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Gonna go completely off script here. Do you ever see a situation where, again, one of the better JUKO programs, Hutchison, becomes a triple A, a feeding ground for a specific school, or do you think JUCOs will remain again independent where hey, we're gonna take everybody and we're gonna send everybody? Kyle Morgan: That's interesting. I mean if if we're thinking that, that's gonna be the highest bidder, right? Type of scenario. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yep. Yeah. Kyle Morgan: I would hope not. You know, I I'd like to keep it as you know, let's let's field, you know, hundred people rosters and develop and grow and then get people out, you know, in in mass. there's only so many spots available to one program. So to have a whole institution like that, just a feeder program for one, doesn't make a lot of sense to me logistically, but you know let's be honest, the the Kansas JUCOs, Iowa, Mississippi, they're all kind of operating that way within their their recruiting landscapes anyways. You know, it's just another stop for those schools that are local. So whereas, you know, out out west if you wanna try to get a kid from Mississippi JUCO, it's probably not gonna happen. I'll I'll just be honest. So Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kyle Morgan: so it's probably already happening to a degree. I think there's some down low things that are happening where a school stash a kid and that that's the beauty about watching Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Certainly happens. Kyle Morgan: so much junior college football this fall was just seeing the line rotations come in, you know, whether it be series changes or mid series, you've got four new D linemen coming in and they they all look great and they can they can play, but for the most part it's kinda has a a Pop Warner vibe to it where, they wanna get everybody film. Yeah. You know Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Yeah. And again, the y you said it, it's film film is king. That's that's at every level. It is one of the hardest advisements when again a kid jumps in the portal and reaches out and is like, hey, I'm a I was a four star kid, but I haven't played in two years. It's like again, y so three two and a half years later we gotta recruit off your high school tape. Like that's that's a tough sell for where these guys want to go. They want to be G five plus They want to be P four and it's like, man, the the JUCO has to be the route. And again, it that doesn't change all the way to getting to the NFL. As soon as you get a year out, a twenty twenty-five guy that hasn't played UFL, CFL, it's like, man, you've got to find a way to get fresh film. JUCO is certainly part of that. Again, they're playing games, good games, compet competitive games. So again, the film absolutely matters. Kyle Morgan: Absolutely. Yeah. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Cool. as we sit here in the twenty twenty-six season, again, there are players that again were part of the process in twenty twenty-five. They were at a JUCO in twenty twenty-five, hit the portal, have now moved up. Who are some of these guys that maybe even some fans out there don't know? Hey, this guy was a JUCO player last year that made the big jump. Who are some guys that you have followed, were aware of, that you have, you know, talked about and know. That are performing here in twenty twenty six. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, I mean I'll start with Asad Chapman. He's at UTSA cornerback, six three, long, rangy kid. he's he's a key contributor there. And you know, with the way the coaching carousel's shaken out, I mean that's a hot very likely, right? And so Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Could he be a bear soon? Kyle Morgan: so now, you know, they've done a that UTSA program did a great job acquiring that that player and now they can they can see that through, wherever they end up. If they end up anywhere. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Wherever they end up. Yes. Kyle Morgan: Yeah. And then Derek Sally, speaking of you know, Kansas State, you know, having kind of a hotbed of JUCO in their backyard there. they got a kid named Derek Sally Jr. who's second or third leading receiver on their their squad this season, doing a nice job. And then when The beauty in JUCO to me is lies in the trenches, O line, D line. And and that developmental piece and and late bloomers and all that. And so what you're finding is you're getting a lot of really good talent that is coming into these programs, not necessarily to be the guy this year, because and I I'll use Arizona State for ex example. They've got two or three guys on their O line that are sitting in there too deep. But they're gonna be the starters next year, right? And and And so Jermaine Mitchell, Lenny La Puahu, which I scouted out of high school at Alta High School in in Utah, you know, so I've watched his career for a long time. And kinda, you know, he's one of those those prospects that just, you know, couldn't quite put it all together in the classroom and and but he got it together in in at Garden City and and he's he's gonna do great things at Arizona State. A little bit further down the highway is Leroy Paulu at Arizona. He plays nose tackle. This is his second year at Arizona now, but he's doing a great job with anchoring that 3 3 5 defense down there. Who are some other guys? Karan Gossett. He's a California JUCO running back. He's up at northern Arizona. Another staff to keep an eye on, you know, through the coaching carousel. But they again have done a great job identifying. Junior college talent that has made them ultimately a top where they top eight program now in the in FCS and and they're doing a great job. But that's a kid in high school, just ran hard, broke tackles. But you know what? He maybe didn't break eleven in the hundred. And you know, so many programs dock a kid for that. And and it's like, okay, what what's the context here? Does the kid actually want to run track? Is he forced to be there? Does he practice one day a week and then run the four by one? Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Kyle Morgan: is he involved in the the spring seven on seven circuit or baseball or something, right? There we gotta understand the reason. You know, if you train like a track athlete, he's gonna be he's gonna hit the metric that you want your kid, your Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Kyle Morgan: your team to be at. So But that's another he's he's done a a great job running the ball up in in Flagstaff and then another running back at USC. He got hurt late last year, but he was I think six games in, he was he was near six hundred yards rushing, Wayman Jordan. and so he's yeah, I think the second leading rusher at USC this season coming back from that injury. So Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Again, it's a i as you kind of pointed out with Arizona State, it becomes another one of those metrics when you're for for GMs, for good scouting staffs of building your roster because you can you can recruit like crazy. You're going to lose more players now than you used to because they want to be on the field. And grabbing that JUCO kid and telling them, like, hey, you're gonna have a small role here, but You're coming to the big time. You you served your time at the JUCO. You developed, you did your thing. This is the plan. Laying out the plan. Those JUCO guys, again, kind of going back to that maturity. They're like they they see the vision. It's one thing to sell that to a 19 year old senior. It's a different thing, maybe, to sell it to a 20 or 21 year old who's got some life experience and understands like, yeah, this is more of it. I don't have to play. 70% of the snaps next year. This is a great plan. This is going to get me to where I want to go. And using it to cut down on a little bit of that roster turnover is absolutely going to help some of these rosters that are thinking about it in that way. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, and they get another year in the system under great coaching and and now let's look at it through another lens of of that GM. Now you've got your Rev share a little more manageable now 'cause you don't have to go out and sign a a tackle this year. now you're replacing a depth piece, which is gonna cost you significantly less. So these Arizona State had a a Juco Kid get drafted last year, Max Yanich or with the Steelers, I believe. you know, and and so th they clearly have found a way to kind of keep that pipeline going and and find a way to compete you know, in in today's Revshare battle where they might not have the resources against the the the top in the country, but they can still compete. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, you've you've gone all in on this JUCO thing. You've got Kyle Morgan: Mm-hmm. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: the JUCO insider report and it is a spot that, if if an agent or a program is not already aware, you need to go check it out. This again couldn't be more beautiful than that. It's professionally done. It's all that tell us about the JUCO insider report. Tell us about the genesis of it. Tell us, how it came about and what it's doing now. Tell us tell us all about it. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, really it was just for me to be able to build a platform for these athletes to have a better opportunity at the next level. Nobody was really doing it well in terms of monitoring Ju Juco besides spreadsheets and and and tracking a few X accounts. And so I wanted to find a way to house all the information in one place. really give a a a good database of not just the top guys but guys that can that are maybe being missed they've got the size they've got intangibles they have a story first and foremost about why they ended up there and so what I've also built in here is a an opportunity where the player can record an interview and I've got 13 questions in there. They can hit record, share their story in their own words. Everybody has has their journey. And maybe they can explain a way a character laps in judgment. Maybe they were injured. I don't know. Maybe it's their first year playing football. I see a ton of that at the JUCO level where it's basketball or rugby players that are Playing football for the first time, and it's a great way, great area to learn the game and develop and and that. And so really it's just a an opportunity for those players to share their story. there's questions in there about what type of type of teammate they are, what would their coach say about them, who's the best player that they've gone against, who's the best player they've played with on their own team. So it's really also shining a light on other players. that can help be developed as well or at least identified. so that's that's really the a a key feature that we've got some really good feedback for from the the college staff because now they can see a kid articulate, put some words, you know, together and say like, okay, here's a talking point before we contact him, or yeah, I don't know if this would be a fit in our locker room. type thing. At least they know that. They can identify Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Yeah. Kyle Morgan: that early on. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Which again, it's it as we've talked about with so many agents and GMs, the portal process can be, super speed dating where you have so many questions, but it has to be done now, again, with an interview, with some of the background work, with some of the again, some of this ahead of time work that That can be done with profiles, with players, with information from JUCO inside a report. It's it's a lot more information that you can then go to again, your head coach who may be hesitant about a JUCO player or a position coach or somebody on your scouting staff for all those reasons we've talked about. Hey, forget where this player's at. Listen to this interview. Look at this profile. Let's put on this film. And then we'll get the full story on hopefully give good players that deserve that chance, second chance, whatever it chance it may be, the opportunity to take that right step and and and help help a team, you know, in that next year. Kyle Morgan: And here's the thing, there's there's bad takes at the high school level, there's bad takes at the portal level, where where players are coming down a level. You just don't know the whole picture, and don't hold that against a JUCO player just because of the the logo or the institution he currently is. You know, I I just want to see these players have an opportunity and and that's kind of the the emphasis of this database is just to really focus on these hundred and thirty plus schools, have feedback from the college from the JUCO coaches to give insights on these players, type, some character backgrounds, that sort of thing. and then really just try to give as much as a pi of a picture as we can to those decision makers so that, you know, they can decide if if they want to recruit or not. How I describe it is, and we've been asked, well what what D tackle should we take? I don't know your locker room, I don't know your your height weight limitations, I may not know your scheme. but what I can do is I can stock the shelves of the grocery store and you can determine what you're shopping for. And I think that's the best way I can ex explain JUCO insider report. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, no, that's outstanding. Are are you, your staff, your group of JUCO Insider Report Scouts, are you compiling these players and reaching out to them? Are you relying on players reaching out to you to submit this data? If a player is out there, you know, family member, agent, and a whatever, if they want a player listed on this JUCO Insider Report, what is the process for them? Kyle Morgan: Well, they're probably already on there to begin with. So but I'll turn over every rock. so if they wanna pass along a nugget or or hey, this player actually transferred or is going to transfer to another JUCO, which happens a lot, you know, certainly want that information, but Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: And all all that could be submitted to you right on. Again, I think there's a get in touch section there on Juco Insider Report dot com. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, and it's a it's a its own link. so it's JUCO insiderreport.com slash submit profile. And that that can give us any update. It could be reclassification. You know, I I thought I was on track to graduate December 2026. I didn't handle my business, looks like it's gonna be, you know, in the springtime, that sort of thing. we want all that. I've since included a NCAA ID. field as well and also an agent contact because more and more junior college athletes are being represented earlier and earlier now. And so I want that information to be included as well so that these schools know who to contact and who they're represented by because it could lead to other connections as well. Or maybe they already have a connection based on somebody on their team. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. And and the the two big audiences that are most often using, interacting, you know, using JUCO insider report, agents and college programs. I'm correct there. How are Kyle Morgan: Hundred percent. Yep. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: they going to use it differently? And what are they going to want to know again, other than getting on the website and getting that quote, getting that demo done? I'm I'm assuming you're probably jumping on with, you know, that happy face and giving it directly to them. What do agents and programs need to know? Kyle Morgan: Yeah, they're I think they're gonna view it differently. So agents are gonna wanna get on here and identify or at least have access to who's next so they can build out their portfolio. So and honestly, I never had that audience in mind when I built this. It was a hundred percent through the lens of what do college programs want. And so, you know, I built in proximity maps, so you can type in your your zip code and five hundred mile radius and see who's playing who's from there, but maybe playing out of state or who's from out of state playing nearby. you can filter that map however you'd like, but it was really just a way to pare down these recruiting landscapes and and and just make it accessible however they want to view this. and then the agents came up and we're at Nashville at the symposium. I had more and more and more agents coming up and I turned to my co founders and I said, I think we're onto something here in another market that we didn't think. And and so I've had a number of really good meetings here in the last two weeks, expanding that scope as well. And and so we should have some exciting partnerships coming down. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Good, good. And then again, from the team side, again, fairly straightforward. I need I should be using this as a supplemental database of guys I need to be recruiting, guys I need to be evaluating. Again, if it's a defensive tackle, I'm gonna hop on and again, I'm gonna see what you got in the pantry for me that I can seriously look at. You've done a lot of the work that interns and you know younger pla you know, younger. younger staffers are doing on this, you've got it already here and it's ready to go for right. Kyle Morgan: Yeah, we can filter height weight, hometown state, state they're playing in, eligibility, if they're available now. that was a hot button, you know, right right at launch. 'Cause we got NCAA approved in June, the symposium in August, right during camp was going on. And so the amount of schools that reach out and said, Hey, we had an injury first week in camp. We we need we need somebody on our ready list. And so we've got an available now button that you can click and it's again, we're taking their word for it. They tell us that they're a dis a qualifier. And because I'm not evaluating transcripts or determining that, you know, can't do the whole job for everyone. But Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Right. Kyle Morgan: at least try to try to help the best we can to at least give them an opportunity to you know succeed roster wise. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. And again, that's something that you and I, Kyle, have talked about all the time. If you're doing the right things to help other people, again, JUCO Insider Report, it's going to be successful. If you're also helping whoever, whatever P4, whatever G five, by proxy, you're helping these kids, you're helping these JUCOs. It helps the game of football be better. And the better decisions you make for a roster leads to Better on-field product leads to less turnover of coaching staff, less fire. it makes the game of football better, which again, I know all the conversations we've had, that's ultimately what we want. We want to help people make good decisions, right decisions, write roster decisions. We can take them as far as we can. We can give them a lot of information. JUCO Insider Report gives a ton of that. Now, at the end of the day, we can only do so much, but again, it sets a lot of that table and I I know, again, I'll let you say it for sure, but I know that is what we've talked about and what I want all the time. Kyle Morgan: yeah, and and this is always evolving. It's evolved from, you know, the vision I had in May to to where we are now. And then, you know, the the constant feedback from staffs of what what they're missing or what they want it to do also, okay, not a problem. You know, we can work that in and and hopefully make their workflow better. to your point, you talked about, you know roster turnover and that being such a an issue, stigma wise with with recruiting JUCO players in the past. Yet here we are signing 30 or 40 people out of a transfer portal for one year. You know, but God forbid we sign more than one or two junior college player. And and so I just the collective thought has to shift as this is another resource of of viable prospects that can help you win football games. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah, well again, it's it's one year, it's one class, it's one again, January class at a time. And again, tools, resources like JUCO Insider Report are going to help shift that to where again we we know the way it works. One class goes out and gets five or six guys from the JUCO that changes a roster, and it's like, hey, let's let's copy what they did over there. Again, it's it was It was James Madison, it's gonna be maybe UTSA, it's gonna be JUCO inside a report, changing the way it shifts real fast when that kind of thing happens. Kyle Morgan: And I will tell you it's from schools that you'd be shocked. those conversations have already happened. They've never dabbled really in the transfer portal space. And now they're saying, Hey, we need to we need to get involved here in this space, or or a program says, Hey, why aren't we recruiting junior college more? And it's like, wait a second, I've been working for you, coach, for X number of years now, and that's never been a discussion. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Yeah. Kyle Morgan: where do I go for this? And And those conversations have happened also. And so, yeah, we're we're happy to help any way we can, at least just be a a a piece of of the process that goes on within a football facility. and and we can be versatile too. You know, if you want more of a certain thing, you know, we we'll certainly, you know, do what we can to to provide Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yeah. Well, if for no other reason than to get Kyle on and call to demo the product so you can talk to him, you you need to go do it. Again, JUCOINsider Report dot com is the website. That's where you're going to check everything out. All the buttons are there. JUCO Insider REP, shortened report, obviously on Twitter, JUCO Insider Rep on Twitter. Make sure you give them a follow and then follow Kyle as well. Kyle Morgan underscore FB. Make sure you go give him a follow as well. Get in touch, reach out. Again, if you're a program and you're not using Juco Inside of Report like I'm you are behind. Like it, it is a tool, it is a piece of data, it's information out there that you've got to be using. Make sure you get signed up, do all the things, and again, you too can you know improve and upgrade your roster with the help of Kyle and his team. Kyle, Anything else before we go, you wanna point any anybody, any any exciting things you wanna tease coming up? Kyle Morgan: man, phase two has already been planned. we've got some exciting things, we've got some some board ideas as far as, you know, rankings and and that in the works. So again, we're always evolving and and those discussions and and developmental pieces are already in the works and we're just gonna keep putting out a good product. Rodrik David @RightStepAdv: Yep. Good products lead to good results. Well, Kyle, really appreciate it. JucoInsider Report dot com is where it's at. Really appreciate you being on with us. Kyle Morgan: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate everything you do.