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- 0:00Speaker 1: In tonight's episode, We're going to take a look inside
- 0:03of the plane and read an article from The New
- 0:06York Post. The headline Inside Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express Jet
- 0:13and Where it is Now, author Ben Furhard. It hosted
- 0:21a list celebrities, tycoons of industry and world leaders alike.
- 0:25But now Jeffrey Epstein's private jet, dubbed the Lolita Express
- 0:30because he allegedly used it as a flying underage sex palace,
- 0:34is collecting dust at a Georgia airport. The Post is learned.
- 0:38So this jet that was once used to transport the
- 0:43movers and the shakers of the world from one spot
- 0:46to the next while they were with Jeffrey Epstein, this
- 0:50plane that was used as a location to abuse, molested
- 0:55and rape trafficked girls, is now sitting in a Georgia
- 1:00airport collecting dust. Well, I would hope that it's in
- 1:04good enough condition that it can also be sold off
- 1:07with the rest of Jeffrey Epstein's shit so that money
- 1:10can all go into the compensation fund. The Boeing seven
- 1:15twenty seven is parked in a long term storage area
- 1:18at Brunswick Golden Isles Airport in southeastern Georgia, about seventy
- 1:23miles north of Jacksonville, Florida, according to an aviation expert
- 1:27who was recently allowed aboard the infamous aircraft. So this
- 1:32guy was able to hop onto the old Jeffrey Epstein's
- 1:35Flying House of Cars and was able to snap some pictures,
- 1:39get some shots, and you know, now he's telling the
- 1:43Post about what he experienced when he got to take
- 1:48a walk around in the now defunct aircraft. James McCloskey,
- 1:54a fifty three year old aviation consultant, told the Post
- 1:57he was given a tour of the jet in March
- 1:59twenty twenty while doing work for Scrogin's Aviation, a Las
- 2:03Vegas based company that buys planes and plane part and
- 2:07plane parts for the film industry. Well that's interesting because
- 2:12that would mean that perhaps this company, Scrogin's Aviation, which
- 2:16is based here in Las Vegas, is looking to purchase
- 2:19this plane. And I think that's the sooner it gets purchased,
- 2:23and the sooner that the money gets put into the fund,
- 2:26the better in my opinion. Right, I want all of
- 2:29his worldly possessions, all of his toys, his jets, his boats,
- 2:33whatever it may be. I want them all sold off,
- 2:35and I want all of that money going to the survivors.
- 2:40McCloskey snapped more than two dozen photos of the plane's interior,
- 2:44revealing the vip jets, velor upholstered reclining chairs, love seats,
- 2:49and even the pedophiles, the notorious on board bed where
- 2:53he and his guests allegedly had group sex with the girls.
- 2:58And we know that this plane wasn't like a regular plane, right, certainly,
- 3:03nothing like a plane that you would get on or
- 3:05I would get on commercially. This plane was outfitted and
- 3:09it was set up exactly how Jeffrey Epstein wanted it
- 3:14so it would facilitate his behavior as he was moving
- 3:18from one destination to the next. Because remember, we know,
- 3:22according to the survivors, that this man's proclivities were beyond
- 3:27the pale of disgusting, and his appetite to abuse these
- 3:32girls was also very large. So on one of these
- 3:37long flights, say from Florida across the Atlantic, you don't
- 3:43think Jeffrey Epstein was doing whatever it is that he
- 3:46was doing on the planes with these girls and the
- 3:50people that came with him on these planes, who went
- 3:53with him on these trips, I mean, really, you're going
- 3:56to get into a plane that looks like what this
- 3:58plane looked liked on the inside, and you're not gonna
- 4:00have any questions, especially when it goes along with all
- 4:03of the other shit we know about Epstein, the wacky artwork,
- 4:07all the young girls around him, and these people are
- 4:11going to try and pitch us the nonsense that they
- 4:14had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was. I don't know
- 4:18about you, folks, but I am not buying it. He said.
- 4:25The plane felt like a playground. When you get inside
- 4:28the aircraft, it's a playground. Everything lays out to be
- 4:31a bed. That was kind of creepy, McCloskey said. And
- 4:35there are a bunch of pictures of this inside of
- 4:37this article. Like usual, I will post the link to
- 4:40this article in the description box, and I suggest you
- 4:44guys go and check it out, because he's right, it's
- 4:46like something out of a movie, almost right. This isn't
- 4:50the kind of plan that you would think ex presidents
- 4:52would be on business moguls. You're thinking, you know, a nice,
- 4:56sleek corporate jet where you have a little bit of privacy,
- 5:01perhaps in some sort of cubicle seating area where You
- 5:04can do your work, trade stocks, whatever it may be.
- 5:08But this is nothing like that. This is as if
- 5:11Snoop Dog and you know a red Man and method
- 5:15Man were launching the new version of Soul plane for
- 5:19a party as they fly. I mean, it's that kind
- 5:22of plane. It's not a business plane by any means.
- 5:28He added that the interior design looked like something from
- 5:31the disco era. And that's another thing about Epstein, Right,
- 5:33this guy had piss poor judgment when it comes to
- 5:37interior decorating and style. Look, I most certainly am not
- 5:41some sort of like style officionado, right, But if I
- 5:44had the money that this dude had, I would at
- 5:47least have the good sense to have somebody come in
- 5:50and deck out my pad and make it look dope.
- 5:52But this guy. Everything in this dude's pad looks ridiculous.
- 5:57His plane looked ridiculous. This disco era stuff nonsense. But
- 6:01it doesn't shock me. I could see Epstein totally still
- 6:04with you know, the shirt on button showing some of
- 6:06that gross little chest hair, thinking he's still living in
- 6:08the seventies. Guy was just an absolute disgusting weirdo. You
- 6:14get on Epstein's airplane and it's decorated from the seventies.
- 6:18I mean, you would almost think that Elvis flew on
- 6:20this thing because it's like velor and bright and red colors,
- 6:24he said. And again, this guy had zero sense of
- 6:28taste when it came to style or decorations. The house
- 6:32in New Mexico atrocious from the pictures that we have seen.
- 6:37The way it was designed on the inside. I mean,
- 6:40are you kidding me right now? You have more money
- 6:43than God himself, and that's how you design your house. Huh.
- 6:46You spend all of that money on that big ass ranch,
- 6:49that beautiful property, and then that's what you do to
- 6:53the inside of it. At the same time, McCloskey said
- 6:58he was struck because he knew some of the most
- 7:00influential people in the world, including former President Bill Clinton
- 7:05and other celebrities, had flown on the jet. Initially, I
- 7:10took the presence of I'm standing on an aircraft that
- 7:13held royalty, presidents, heads of state, he said. The plane
- 7:17has been at the Georgia Airport for about five years,
- 7:20McCloskey said, and currently has no engines attached. A record
- 7:24of its last flight shows the plane took off from
- 7:27West Palm Beach, then zigzag above Florida before touching down
- 7:31at the Georgia Airport more than four years ago. So
- 7:36he gets on this plane, right, he's looking around, taking
- 7:40a peak working for Scroggins Pictures. Whatever it may be,
- 7:43probably sounds like a preliminary look to see if they
- 7:45wanted to purchase this for their use for spare parts
- 7:49and whatnot. So he's on there, he's getting some flicks,
- 7:52taking some pictures, and it hits them. This is the
- 7:56kind of plane that heads of state would be on
- 7:58business mogul, all of these powerful people with no real seats.
- 8:03Everything folds down into a bed. I don't know how
- 8:07convenient that would be to get work done. But again,
- 8:12we're not talking about this being business related, are we, folks.
- 8:16We're not talking about this just being a quick jaunt.
- 8:19Oh yeah, hop a ride with me, man, We'll take
- 8:21a ride up to Florida. Down to Florida, and you know,
- 8:23you don't have to worry about the nonsense. Let's roll.
- 8:25It wasn't that the people that were on this plane,
- 8:28when these young girls were on this plane, all have
- 8:31a lot of explaining to do. If you were ever
- 8:33on this plane with an underage girl and that gets
- 8:38verified and these girls corroborate all of that. You, my friend,
- 8:43have a lot of explaining to do, because that would
- 8:48mean that you were present when girls were being trafficked
- 8:54and crimes were being committed. That is why I am
- 8:59so adamant that this needs to be a RICO case,
- 9:02because once this turns RICO, then all of those people,
- 9:05all of those co conspirators, can be dragged right in
- 9:09kicking and screaming. The jet which has a tail number
- 9:15and nine zero eight JAYE, how cute? Huh je at
- 9:20the end of the tail the tail number for good
- 9:23old Uncle Jeffy's name. The guy was such a narcissist,
- 9:27such a disgusting example of what not to be. That
- 9:35was formerly registered to a Delaware company called je Ge Incorporated,
- 9:40but has been a deregistered aircraft since October twenty nineteen,
- 9:45two months after Epstein killed himself allegedly in a Manhattan
- 9:49jail cell, according to online records, So before he killed himself,
- 9:54the jet was still up and running, ready to go,
- 9:57because in Epstein's mind, he truly believed he was getting
- 10:00off again right. He didn't think he was going to
- 10:01do real jail time, and that's why another reason why
- 10:05I don't think he killed himself. We've heard from several
- 10:08different people that talked to him right before he died,
- 10:11and none of them said he was suicidal. So I
- 10:14don't believe he killed himself. And I think that he
- 10:17thought he was going to get out, and when he
- 10:19got out, things would go right back to normal. He'd
- 10:21get back on his jet and he'd continue molesting, abusing,
- 10:27and raping girls at will with nobody there to stop him. Thankfully,
- 10:34that was not the case. For years, the plane has
- 10:39been at the center of sexual abuse allegations against Epstein,
- 10:43and that's why I'm reading this article tonight, because the
- 10:46plane has been a central figure in this case since
- 10:49the jump. It was one of the first pieces of
- 10:51evidence that everybody saw and was talking about, right Bill Clinton,
- 10:55this one that one. He was on it, he was
- 10:57on it, she was on it, et cetera, et cetera.
- 10:59So it's been a big piece of evidence and a
- 11:02big piece of conversation when it comes to this story,
- 11:06and the fact that it's sitting in this Georgia airport
- 11:10amongst the mothballs brings joy to my heart. This plane
- 11:14should be sold and it should be pieced off. I mean,
- 11:17I don't know who would ever buy this plane and
- 11:20fly in it. I most certainly could never do that.
- 11:24Talk about a disgusting taste in your mouth every time
- 11:27you look at this plane. So hopefully Scroggins is going
- 11:30to do with what they're talking about, and maybe they're
- 11:32gonna buy it, or someone else is gonna buy it
- 11:34and piece it off. But I'll tell you what, all
- 11:38of these people on this plane, all of the places
- 11:42this plane went, and the logs that tell the story
- 11:48are really going to come back and haunt a lot
- 11:51of these people in my opinion. The company that owned
- 11:57the jet, Jege Incorporated, is named in several lawsuits by
- 12:02anonymous Epstein accusers who claim the plane facilitated their sex
- 12:06trafficking by the multi millionaire pedophile. And that's one hundred
- 12:10percent right. He was using this plane to transport them,
- 12:15at the very least across state lines, and we know
- 12:18across international lines as well, so the international crimes. Don't
- 12:22you think inner Poles should get involved in that? I mean,
- 12:26I know France is dragging their feet, and obviously they
- 12:28don't give a hell about what happened to these girls
- 12:31in France or to their own citizens for that matter.
- 12:34But shouldn't Interpole get involved in this and perhaps maybe
- 12:37bring their own charges and have a case against Maxwell
- 12:40as well. I mean, you would think every single country,
- 12:44every single organization that's in charge of some sort of
- 12:48law enforcement that got the okie doke pulled on them,
- 12:52that got finessed by Epstein and Maxwell would be looking
- 12:55to make it right. But still we hear nothing from Interpol,
- 13:00and the authorities in France might as well not even
- 13:03exist at this point. Photos previously obtained by the Post
- 13:09Shoe Clinton, along with accused per of Kevin Spacey and
- 13:12comedian Chris Tucker wrote on the jet during a trip
- 13:15to Africa in two thousand and two. Now, this trip
- 13:19to Africa, nobody is ever alleged that anything gross took
- 13:24place on this trip, right now, does that mean that
- 13:28nothing did take place? No, we weren't there. I don't know, right,
- 13:32none of us know. But as far as the witnesses
- 13:36are concerned as in this trip, nothing crazy took place
- 13:40on that plane. So it wasn't like old smoke Dog
- 13:44was on the plane doing crazy stuff. And for that matter,
- 13:48Kevin Spacey's nasty ass wasn't either. Now, when the plane
- 13:51landed and they all went to their hotel rooms, God
- 13:54only knows what these sick bastards do or did. But
- 13:58the thing that sticks out to me is this. What
- 14:00it does is it adds more context, right, more meat
- 14:04to the bone, more smoke to the fire. Bill Clinton
- 14:08was on this plane so many times it's not even funny.
- 14:12And all of these other rich and famous and powerful
- 14:16people who deny the fact that they were on the plane,
- 14:19that they were close to Epstein, they better get out
- 14:22in front of this stuff because the truth is definitely coming.
- 14:26And when it comes and it smashes into these people
- 14:29who are who have been evasive, and they get absolutely
- 14:33piled on by the general public and by the media
- 14:36that they're gonna have nobody to blame but themselves. Now
- 14:39is the time to get out in front of this shit.
- 14:41If you were on this plane, you were on this
- 14:43flight log, and you have something to share, now is
- 14:47the time. Virginia Roberts, who claims she was one of
- 14:54Epstein's sex slaves, was aboard the plane at the same
- 14:56time as the United Kingdom Prince Andrew. According to a
- 15:00court deposition, unsealed soon after Epstein's death, and again the
- 15:05Joe exotic of the Windsor family attempting to demean Virginia
- 15:09and act like she's the liar here is one of
- 15:11the most laughable things I have ever come across in
- 15:14my life. There is so much evidence putting Virginia next
- 15:18to Prince Andrew, and Andrew won't even concede the fact
- 15:23that he has ever met her. So if this man
- 15:26was telling the truth, don't you think he would be
- 15:29truthful about things? Kilaane Maxwell, who was awaiting trial on
- 15:36charges she procured underage girls for Epstein to abuse, allegedly
- 15:40took part in sexual romps abord his planes, according to
- 15:44a newly unsealed deposition by Roberts. And we know that's
- 15:48the case. We've heard those rumors, and we've heard direct
- 15:51accounts from people who were on those planes and who
- 15:54were around these people that this shit occurred. This isn't
- 15:58just some made up story. This isn't some oh, well,
- 16:02let's make pretend this happens type of deal. These disgusting
- 16:08monsters were using this plane to abuse these girls on
- 16:13their way to whatever destination it was that they were going.
- 16:16And then once they got there, they continued this abuse.
- 16:22In the testimony, Roberts detailed constant Orgy's at Epstein's private
- 16:26Caribbean island. She added that she had sex with Maxwell
- 16:29all over the globe and in the air. If we're
- 16:34going to talk about other countries, we've got to talk
- 16:36about international international travel space, or plane space, or whatever
- 16:41you want to call it, Roberts told an attorney in
- 16:43twenty sixteen when asked where she had sex with Maxwell.
- 16:47It happened all the time on the plane, she said,
- 16:51So she was in international airspace and this was occurring
- 16:54in international airspace. Right. So again, going to some foreign
- 17:01country with trafficked girls, how is that not cause for
- 17:07Interpol to get involved? How is that not cause for
- 17:11Interpol to step in and investigate what the deal is here?
- 17:19But again we have not seen any of that. Thankfully, finally,
- 17:23after decades of sitting around with their thumb up their ass,
- 17:26the American authorities have stepped up, made the arrest of
- 17:30Gilane Maxwell and have said they're going after the rest
- 17:32of these co conspirators. I hope that's exactly what they're doing.
- 17:40I would think that is what they're doing. But as
- 17:43always I remain skeptical until it's in the palm of
- 17:48my hand and I can squeeze it. I do not
- 17:52truly have it. And that's the same way I feel
- 17:55in this case. Until these other co conspirators are rounded up,
- 18:00arrested and all charged with RICO, Me, my beard, and
- 18:06my fat yapp will be here on the podcast with you,
- 18:10demanding justice. If you'd like to contact me, you can
- 18:14do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's
- 18:17Bo Bby c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 18:22You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore
- 18:27cap u Cci. The link that goes with this article
- 18:32is in the description box, And you did. This article
- 18:35was authored by Kayla Brantley. Headline Never before seen photos
- 18:41show pedophile Jeffrey Epstein cuddling a sleeping I don't know
- 18:45if she's sleeping. She looks passed out to me, young
- 18:48girl on his lap on board his private jet after
- 18:51spending a day at disney World with unsuspecting families. I mean, yikes.
- 18:59So so how about this for a scenario. You're at
- 19:02disney World with your family, you're in the area, you're
- 19:06having a turkey leg or whatever the hell you guys
- 19:08are having. You take a couple of pictures of the
- 19:11family as they're hanging out, as they're eating, and then
- 19:15later on you go through those pictures and the creeper
- 19:18of Coney Island happens to be photobombing you. I mean, yikes,
- 19:25talk about having a wolf amongst you. Jeffrey Epstein is
- 19:33seen cuddling a sleeping young girl on his lap well
- 19:37on board is private jet after a VIP visit to
- 19:40Walt Disney World, in disturbing photos obtained by dailymail dot Com.
- 19:47Now again these photos, when do you say disturbing. It's
- 19:56not disturbing as in, oh my gosh, it's something you
- 19:59would find on you know, some crude website or something
- 20:03like that. Disturbing as in within context of the story
- 20:07and the case. Because I don't even know if this
- 20:12kid was sleeping in his lap. It looks like she's
- 20:14passed out to me. I mean, I guess you could
- 20:18be that tired after being at Disney World all day
- 20:20or whatever. I guess, But why in Jeffrey Epstein's lap?
- 20:24I mean, none of that jives with me. What sort
- 20:29of parents like, okay, go and fall asleep in so
- 20:32and So's lap, Uncle Jeffy's lap, unless, of course, this
- 20:38was the Dubens, then well, you understand because we know
- 20:43that they're sick people and they had zero problems letting
- 20:46their kids around Jeffrey Epstein. So who the hell knows? Now,
- 20:49I'm not saying it is the Dubens by any means,
- 20:52I have no idea who these people are in this picture.
- 20:54Their faces are blurred out. Nobody's come out and said
- 20:57it's them or their children or anything like that. But
- 21:01my point is, in general, why would you let anyone
- 21:07have your kid in their lap? And I'm not talking
- 21:09about a small like little two year old kid or
- 21:11something like that. I could understand that, you know you're
- 21:13putting a baby to sleep, Okay, I get it. This
- 21:15kid looks, I don't know, twelve thirteen years old. I'm
- 21:19eleven twelve or something like that. Very young, okay, but
- 21:23not young enough that she needs to be sung alula
- 21:25by in some grown man's lap. There is no suggestion
- 21:35that the unidentified girl in the photograph was a victim
- 21:38of Epstein, and her identity has remained anonymous. One look,
- 21:44I'm certainly not saying that. Well, who nobody. I don't.
- 21:48There's no proof of any of that that this is
- 21:50someone he abused, right, So for me, it's the context
- 21:55of the photo. It elicits a anger that burns as
- 22:01hot as a thousand suns seeing this dude with this
- 22:07young girl on his lap like this, and I just look,
- 22:12I'm not a parent, right, so I don't really try
- 22:15and get too deep into the weeds about the what
- 22:17ifs or what I would do if I was a parent.
- 22:19But I can tell you without a shadow of a
- 22:23doubt right now, my child will not be sleeping on
- 22:27anybody's lap, certainly not at that age. Other shocking images
- 22:35show the disgraced financier pedophile enjoying himself at the resort
- 22:40and eating lunch surrounded by unsuspecting families at the Crystal
- 22:44Palace buffet restaurant in the Magic Kingdom. So all of
- 22:48these unsuspecting families that are in these pictures, they probably
- 22:52took pictures of their own, you would think, right, So
- 22:55how many of them might have this sick, creepy f
- 22:58bag in the pictures and their family pictures. It's pretty
- 23:08scary to think how many monsters move amongst us folks.
- 23:12You could be anywhere in the line, at the supermarket,
- 23:16at the drive through, at your doctor's office, and you
- 23:20have no idea what kind of sick, demented bastards creeping
- 23:24around near you. In one picture, Epstein is seen talking
- 23:36to the same little girl, while in another photo, Disney
- 23:40character Piglet posing with the group. So you had Piglet,
- 23:46who is supposedly a you know, obviously a pig character,
- 23:50posing with the biggest pig of all Epstein. Sure that
- 23:56made for a great photograph. I mean, it's just chilling
- 24:01to think that this guy lived his life in such
- 24:05a normal manner, running around going to Disney World and
- 24:09all of this jazz, acting like everything's just a okay,
- 24:13and at the same time abusing children, trafficking women, laundering money,
- 24:21trafficking children, and all of these people that were around
- 24:27him are gonna try and act like they had no idea. Huh,
- 24:30you didn't think it was weird if you were on
- 24:33this plane and you saw this girl sleeping on his lap.
- 24:36If you didn't think it was weird, that's because it's
- 24:39normalized to you, and you're probably a fellow traveler. That's right,
- 24:45I said it. If this shit is not goofy to you.
- 24:49If this shit isn't way out of your lane and
- 24:53you're just like shrugging your shoulders and you're like, oh, okay, eh, well,
- 24:57then you're probably part of the problem. So all of
- 25:01these people that ran around and acted like they had
- 25:03no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was about, they had no
- 25:06idea what he was doing, They had no idea he
- 25:09was a pervert or any of this other shit. Well,
- 25:13why in the hell would he have this little girl
- 25:16passed out on his lap? And do you think it
- 25:18was the first time or was that one of the
- 25:20prerequisites of flying on his plane if you were one
- 25:23of these families he was taking to Disney World. So
- 25:26when mom and pop are a little drunk in the back,
- 25:30their daughters curled up on Jeffrey Epstein's lap, And this
- 25:34sick bastard is God. You know, I don't even want
- 25:37to begin to think about the thoughts running through this
- 25:40monster's head. And if you think he was above something
- 25:47like that, or I wouldn't engage in something like that,
- 25:52sh I got another thing to tell you, because this
- 25:55dude right here was that kind of devious. Oh yeah,
- 26:00we'll set it up. We'll bring these people to Disney World.
- 26:02We'll bring the kid and you know, the parents, and
- 26:04we'll make sure they have a great time. But you know,
- 26:07I have to have access to this kid. You know,
- 26:10you have to make sure that the girl is accessible
- 26:13to me on the plane. I want to sit by her.
- 26:15I want her to talk to me. All of that
- 26:17stuff that was all part of it for Epstein, all
- 26:21part of his sick, disgusting proclivities. And on this trip,
- 26:25as we're going to hear in a few minutes, well,
- 26:29Sarah Kellen Vickers was with them, and so was Nadia Marsonkova.
- 26:35You don't think the Core four played a huge role
- 26:38in all of this, facilitating it and setting it up
- 26:40and making sure it all happened. They knew what Jeffrey
- 26:43Epstein was. They saw this girl on his lap, and
- 26:47they participated. Other images show how families were oblivious to
- 26:55the rich and powerful businessman pedophile who was dining in
- 26:59their mids as costume character Tigger also greeted guests. A
- 27:04source who was on the trip to Disneyworld tells dailymail
- 27:07dot Com of their horror at discovering the tucked away
- 27:10images of Epstein at the theme park. Around two thousand
- 27:15and four, the tucked away images. Huh, how many more
- 27:19of those tucked away images does the source have? And
- 27:23if you were on this plane for this flight to
- 27:27Disney World with Jeffrey Epstein, how long do you think
- 27:30you're gonna remain an unnamed source. Pretty sure the FBI
- 27:35would would like to talk to you. I'm pretty sure
- 27:37they'd like to see these pictures. I wonder how long
- 27:39it'll be before a couple of knuckleheads come running around
- 27:42all these pictures are faked. Tell because you know that
- 27:46those kind of people are floating around. But I'm pretty
- 27:51sure that the authorities will want to get a nice
- 27:53look at these pictures and speak to whoever took them.
- 28:00It wasn't until two thousand and eight that Epstein pleaded
- 28:03guilty to soliciting a miner for prostitution. No such thing.
- 28:07You can't be a minor and be engaged in prostitution.
- 28:10The law didn't even make sense, just like just about
- 28:13every other thing that happened in Florida, and served just
- 28:18thirteen months in jail. No, not in jail, in a
- 28:21stockade where he was allowed to leave six days a
- 28:23week for up to thirteen hours a day. Okay, that's
- 28:25not jail. And then in July twenty nineteen, he was
- 28:30arrested on sex trafficking charges, but killed himself allegedly in
- 28:35prison a month later while awaiting trial. There is no
- 28:39doubt that picture is absolutely chilling based upon what everyone
- 28:43now knows about Epstein. They said, one hundred percent in hindsight,
- 28:48that picture is one of the most chilling that we
- 28:51have seen in this whole entire case, And in fact,
- 28:54it might be the most chilling. The actual sick, prick
- 28:57bag animal with his disgusting hands all over a child.
- 29:03It's almost too much to compute, right. I feel like
- 29:08pouring bleach in my eyes just looking at that picture.
- 29:12I don't know how these people that hung around with
- 29:15him all the time were able to abide by this, unless,
- 29:20of course, again it was normalized. It had been a
- 29:28long day, and the girl just fell asleep in his arms.
- 29:31The picture is terrifyingly terrifying based upon what we know now,
- 29:35but it was entirely innocent. Oh okay, how many of
- 29:39you out there with children had your daughter just fall
- 29:43asleep in some guy's arms because they were tired, because
- 29:46it was a long day. I'm gonna go out on
- 29:48a limb here and guess none of you all right?
- 29:51So why was she asleep in Jeffrey Epstein's arms and
- 29:55his lap, curled up with him leering at her like
- 29:58she was something to be he traded or sold at
- 30:02some sort of open air market. That's the way he's
- 30:05leering at her. And the question is why why is
- 30:08she even on his lap? Why is that acceptable? Why
- 30:10would her parents be acceptable of that? My guess is
- 30:16it was all part of Epstein's plan. Like I was
- 30:19just saying, sure, we'll bring him to Disney World, will
- 30:21wine and dine them, but I have to have access,
- 30:25and then that's where the Core four would come in.
- 30:26I'm guessing. The Insider told how Epstein spared no expense
- 30:32for the trip and flew a group of ten people
- 30:35for the trip to Disney World in Orlando, Florida on
- 30:38his dime. Well, if any of you listening to this
- 30:41podcast were part of that trip, part of that group
- 30:44and would like to speak to me, I would love
- 30:46to talk to you about what you saw on that adventure,
- 30:50and I'm sure everybody would love to hear it. So
- 30:54if you were on that trip and you happen to
- 30:56be listening to this podcast. It's time to come fullard
- 31:00and bring forward all the receipts that you have, pictures, conversations,
- 31:05whatever it may be, because it's only a matter of
- 31:08time before the little cracks in the dam completely and
- 31:14utterly shatter and all of this comes to light. I
- 31:17truly believe folks that eventually all of this is going
- 31:20to come to light. You see it happening in Trickles now,
- 31:24and that the steam has picked up as the story
- 31:28has picked up, as more people have been interested in
- 31:30the story. So I feel like we're going to see more,
- 31:33a lot more of that as we move forward. Other
- 31:38guests included Gilaine Maxwell, Serpentino herself, his personal assistant, lieutenant
- 31:44and co conspirator Sarah Kellen, and Slovakian model co conspirator
- 31:49member of the Core four Nadia marson Cova. The source said,
- 31:53and like I was just saying a second ago, their
- 31:55job would be to get it all into order, all
- 31:58of the logistics locked in, make sure everything's on the
- 32:01up and up, make sure the parents are well taken
- 32:03care of so they're not even worried about what Uncle
- 32:06Jeffy's doing. Maybe that's the cynic in me. But it
- 32:11certainly seems like the sort of plot this disgusting, creepy
- 32:16creepertin from Coney Island would hatch. We all boarded the
- 32:22jet after leaving his home in Palm Beach, and then
- 32:24we took the short plane ride to Orlando, where we
- 32:27were picked up and taken to Disney World. The Insider
- 32:30revealed we were given a VIP tour of the park
- 32:33and someone was escorting us around from Ryde to ride.
- 32:36They said the group never had to be in line
- 32:38for a ride. We went to the front of the
- 32:41line each time. Yeah, of course that's how they roll, right.
- 32:44They don't wait in line, they don't pay their taxes,
- 32:46they don't follow the law, they don't show up for subpoenas.
- 32:49They don't do shit except rob and steal from us
- 32:55and well engage in human trafficking operations. Obviously as well,
- 33:04Jeffrey wouldn't go on any though he didn't seem to
- 33:07like them. Perhaps it was something to do with not
- 33:09being in control, something which he liked to be all
- 33:13the time. So this source, whoever it is that the
- 33:16Daily Mail is talking to, obviously knows him very well.
- 33:20They know him enough to know he doesn't go on rides.
- 33:22They know him enough to know that he likes to
- 33:24be in control all the time. They know him enough
- 33:27to know that Jeffrey Epstein most certainly has to be
- 33:33in control. It was a fun day. We ate in
- 33:38a restaurant with two of Jeffrey's friends who he met there. Jeffrey, however,
- 33:42did not eat lunch. I hardly ever saw him eat
- 33:45at a restaurant. Food always had to be prepared by
- 33:48a personal chef, And that goes to what I was
- 33:51just saying as well, I hardly ever saw him eat
- 33:54at a restaurant, So obviously this source is someone that
- 33:57was around him all the time. How many other pictures
- 33:59you have? What else are you holding out on? Let's
- 34:01see it. Food always have to be prepared by a
- 34:05personal chef. Again, this goes to the vein of this
- 34:10person being very close to Epstein, intimate with Epstein, someone
- 34:13who really knows him. So what else does this person
- 34:17know about Epstein's behavior? That could be due to his
- 34:22obsession with cleanliness or maybe a health thing. The day
- 34:27was actually very enjoyable, and we stayed until late in
- 34:29the evening when we watched the parade, a water show,
- 34:33and fireworks. After a long day, we boarded the plane
- 34:37in Orlando and went back to Palm Beach. That was
- 34:40when the little girl fell asleep on his knee. The
- 34:44little girl, what does that even mean? If this person
- 34:48so close to Epstein, who is this little girl? Was
- 34:52she someone's kid? And if so, why would that person
- 34:55let this little girl fall asleep on Epstein's lap or
- 34:58anyone else's. You know, I'm trying to rack my brain
- 35:03to come up with scenarios that make sense here, and
- 35:06none of them do. All that makes sense to me
- 35:09is that obviously Epstein wanted access to this girl in
- 35:13the same fashion that Jimmy Seville did when he had
- 35:16all of the you know, the different child hospitals and whatnot,
- 35:19so he would have access to those girls. Epstein, taking
- 35:22a page out of that playbook. Flying them to Disney
- 35:25World had given everybody a great day. Mom and dad
- 35:28probably a little tipsy. Now the little girl, she's tired, Epstein,
- 35:32Come lay with Uncle Jeffy and tell me about your day,
- 35:38and thus the grooming process begins. Who knows if that's
- 35:41what happened later on here, but it is certainly a
- 35:45scenario that has to be explored when dealing with this sick,
- 35:48disgusting degenerate. It is so sinister to see him there
- 35:55nursing the youngster when the world now knows his terrible
- 35:58secrets and crimes. Whoever this source is, really you didn't
- 36:02know his secrets and crimes? Huh it didn't strike you
- 36:04as disgusting that this little girl was passed out on
- 36:07his lap. Huh okay, mister source or missus source. Meanwhile,
- 36:13Epstein's alleged co conspirator has griped about her prison conditions
- 36:18once again in a new court filing, demanding she'd be
- 36:21granted access to her laptop because the computers inside the
- 36:25jail are very slow. Maxwell's brain must be working slow
- 36:29to think that that is going to be a reason
- 36:34for the court to grant her requests. Zero chance, Elaine Okay.
- 36:40National Serpent's Day was yesterday. The suspected child sex trafficker
- 36:48and former girlfriend uh wrong underboss, co conspirator, fellow child abuser,
- 36:55and bipedal serpent of Epstein is currently being held without
- 37:00bell at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, New York,
- 37:04as she awaits trial. In a letter to the federal
- 37:07court obtained by dailymail dot com Tuesday, Attorney Bobby Sternheim
- 37:12pushed back against the decision to block Maxwell from accessing
- 37:16her computer outside of the working week. The filing also
- 37:21claimed prison guards have psychologically and physically abused Maxwell, and
- 37:26that her complaints had been met with reprisals. We discussed
- 37:30all of that on the Daily Drop just a little
- 37:34bit ago. The episode just dropped at four o'clock, so
- 37:37an hour and forty two minutes ago, So all of
- 37:42that was discussed this afternoon. So I'm not gonna go
- 37:48back into that and dive back into that right here.
- 37:50But obviously, as you can possibly tell, I think it's
- 37:55ridiculous that Gilaane Maxwell would even try the nonsense she's trying.
- 38:01So here's where we're at, folks. These pictures highly disturbing.
- 38:07Make sure you check out the link. Make sure you
- 38:09look at these pictures yourself so you see what I'm
- 38:11talking about, and buckle up, because I think that the
- 38:17ride from here on out is about to be filled
- 38:22with a few curves, all right, everybody, If you'd like
- 38:27to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi
- 38:29at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O B b y
- 38:33c A P you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You
- 38:38can also find me on Twitter at bo bb y
- 38:42underscore c A p U C c I. All of
- 38:46the links that go with this episode can be found
- 38:49in the description box. All right, folks, So I mean
- 38:52this first article is from Fox News and the headline
- 38:56is Epstein accuser says she took She once took Bill
- 38:58Clinton's seat on private jet, saw bedroom floor made of
- 39:01mattress foam. A woman who came forward with accusations of
- 39:05child sex abuse against Jeffrey Epstein on Monday described a
- 39:08disturbing encounter with the now deceased sex offender said she
- 39:12took the former president Bill Clinton's seat on the Lolita
- 39:15Express and noted bizarre bedroom floors made of mattress foam
- 39:19and being encouraged to cry after sex with the disgraced moneyman.
- 39:24The accuser, who went by the name Jane Doe fifteen,
- 39:27enlisted high powered attorney Gloria Allred. Why why would anyone
- 39:32use Gloria Allred? I just don't understand. Who held a
- 39:35news conference Monday in Los Angeles. The accuser was fifteen
- 39:39when Epstein prayed upon her, and she was seeking compensentory
- 39:43and punitive impunitive damages as a result. Alred said her
- 39:47lawsuit alleges battery, assault, and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
- 39:52Alred said. Jane Doe fifteen said Epstein began grooming her
- 39:56when she was in New York for a school trip
- 39:58and eventually found herself on the low lie to Express
- 40:00his private jet. When I chose a seat on the jet,
- 40:04Jeffrey told me that is where his good friend Bill
- 40:07Clinton always chose to sit. Jane Doe fifteen said. Jane
- 40:10Do fifteen, who is now thirty one years old, detailed
- 40:13her first sexual encounter with Epstein. I was invited to
- 40:16his home. There, his assistant took a photo of me
- 40:18and later reached out inviting me to Epstein's ranch. I
- 40:22only knew Jeffrey Epstein for five days. During a trip
- 40:25to the Zoro Ranch, his massive compound surrounded by government
- 40:28lands in the New Mexico Desert, Epstein took my sexual
- 40:31innocence in front of a wall of framed photographs of
- 40:33him shaking hands with and smiling with celebrities and political leaders.
- 40:38Jane Doe fifteen said, I was only fifteen years old,
- 40:41after he wanted to talk to me about what had
- 40:43just been my first sexual experience and directed me to
- 40:45take time to myself that night to cry. Jane Doe,
- 40:49fifteen said Epstein offered her money for college almost immediately
- 40:52after the sexual encounter. This is his typical pattern, right.
- 40:56I'm always skeptical when Gloria Already is involved, but when
- 40:59it comes to this case and as prolific of a
- 41:02sexual predator as Jeffrey Epstein was, when these girls come forward,
- 41:06they've been ridiculed for so long and so often by
- 41:09so many people, I'm not going to do the same
- 41:11thing just because they're with Gloria Alred. So I'm willing
- 41:14to definitely listen to what they have to say. And
- 41:18you know, as long as these allegations are credible and
- 41:21they all match up basically right when you vet them
- 41:25and you go through the allegations from these girls, they're
- 41:28all the same sort of thing. He had the same
- 41:31mo with all of these girls, and it's the same
- 41:33exact players involved. Jane do fifteen said she declined other
- 41:40in invitations from Epstein. I left Zora Ranch with a
- 41:43deep sense of shame, she said. Epstein was found dead
- 41:47dead this passed August in his Manhattan prison cell while
- 41:49awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. Prosecutors alleged that
- 41:53the convicted sex offender paid girls as young as fourteen
- 41:57hundreds of dollars for massages before you molested them in
- 41:59his homes in New York and Palm Beach, Florida, between
- 42:02two thousand and two and two thousand and five. Well,
- 42:05don't you have to add the Zoro Ranch and the
- 42:08island to that as well? And England. I mean, in
- 42:11this article itself, it talks about the Zoro Ranch. And
- 42:15this is what I mean about shoddy reporting. It's like
- 42:19it's almost like they don't even like proofread some of
- 42:21these articles. They just fire them off anyway. So that
- 42:25was the first article from Fox, and it just goes
- 42:29just adds another layer to the pile of evidence that
- 42:32we have against Jeffrey Epstein. And like I said, we
- 42:36have to hear from all of these people who said
- 42:38that they were abused by him. And unfortunately, in our society,
- 42:42there's a lot of people that will come forward that
- 42:44really had nothing to do with this, and they cause
- 42:46great harm to those who actually were abused. So it's
- 42:49important that we make sure we separate the wheat from
- 42:52you know, the chaff, you know, make sure we got
- 42:57the good stuff rising to the top and the bad
- 42:59stuff laying at the bottom, because that's how they try
- 43:01and get the lead. I say they what I mean
- 43:04is the intelligence agency types. That's the sort of different
- 43:08disinformation they like to use. Right, Oh, well, this one's
- 43:11a liar, So that one must be a liar. We
- 43:13saw it in the original case. That was basically their
- 43:15whole defense. The whole the whole defense built by Dershowitz
- 43:19was built on their the girl's MySpace pages and stuff.
- 43:22So we have to be very careful what we accept
- 43:25for fact and what we what is just you know,
- 43:29tickling our confirmation bias. We don't want to get caught
- 43:34up in all of that. We just want to follow
- 43:35the facts wherever they lead. Like I saw, I saw
- 43:38somebody today talking about the situation with how Donald Trump
- 43:43was allegedly caught up with Jeffrey Epstein and a thirteen
- 43:46year old girl and how there was suits filed. And look,
- 43:51I've read all of those those charges. I've read all
- 43:54of those allegations. None of those girls have spoken up
- 43:58in court. If now's not the time to speak up
- 44:00in court about powerful people, when is the man's being
- 44:04impeached right now by the Congress. If somebody came forward
- 44:08and they have allegations that he was involved in Epstein's
- 44:11sex ring, now would certainly be the time to come forward.
- 44:14Right You would never find more support than now. So
- 44:17if somebody out there actually has the receipts and the
- 44:20evidence for that, then bring it forward. If not, all
- 44:23you're doing is adding more disinformation to the game. All
- 44:26you're doing is doing their work for them. All you're
- 44:29doing is making the actual job of finding out who
- 44:32was really involved that much harder, all because you want
- 44:35to play politics, all because you want to be involved
- 44:37in tribalism. Take a good hard look in the mirror
- 44:41if that's you, and ask yourself, is that what you want?
- 44:44Is that what you want to be involved in? Or
- 44:46do you want to be involved in chasing down the
- 44:48truth no matter what, even if it shatters your confirmation bias.
- 44:53That's really what you have to ask yourself in this case,
- 44:55because that's where I'm at. I could care less if
- 44:57every single member of Congress and every Senator was purp
- 45:00walked in handcuffs. If they were all involved in this,
- 45:03I have no skin in the game. Those aren't, you know,
- 45:06those are just people that are elected to go to Washington.
- 45:09I don't have any sort of emotional tie to any politician.
- 45:13They come and they go. It's the shitty policy that
- 45:16they leave behind that's really the problem. All Right, This
- 45:20next article is from The Atlantic, and this is a
- 45:23pretty good headline right here, so I figured we'll dive in.
- 45:27I'm usually pretty skeptical of the Atlantic them in New
- 45:30York mag the nation, they're very They carry a lot
- 45:35of water for the intelligence agencies. And you know, at
- 45:38another time and another time in another place. I'll go
- 45:40into some of the evidence for that. But if you
- 45:44really pay attention, you see the same exact journalists quote
- 45:49unquote posting the same exact stories over and over and over.
- 45:52That's because they're being fed and they'll say, oh, from
- 45:55sources close to the case or sources blah blah blah.
- 45:58And that's when you have to really be a bit cautious,
- 46:02because you really don't who are the sources cost close
- 46:05to the case. Are they people that are actually working
- 46:07the case? Is that the janitor? You never know right,
- 46:10And that's exactly how they conduct their business now, and
- 46:12it's so that there's no accountability for them. If they say, oh,
- 46:16an unnamed source, well nobody could track that source down,
- 46:18and nobody can verify their report. They can report whatever
- 46:21they want. And if you refute their report, well, here
- 46:24they come. You're fake news. You're gonna get the deplatformed,
- 46:27you're gonna you're gonna have your ability to earn money
- 46:30as an independent journalist. They basically destroyed. And that's what
- 46:34these people do. Look what they're doing to the whistleblower,
- 46:36what they're attempting to do to the whistleblower, what they
- 46:38did to Ashley Bianco. Just just the way they conduct themselves,
- 46:43as they scream from their ivory towers, how we should
- 46:45conduct ourselves. It's just so hypocritical and so mind numbingly annoying.
- 46:52All right, So the headline is what Jeffrey Epstein offered
- 46:55Prince Andrew. An oblivious interview exposes the two tiered world
- 46:59in which jeff Jefrey Epstein flourished. Hey, look, we always
- 47:02talked about the two tier justice system here. There is
- 47:05definitely a set of rules for them, and a set
- 47:06of rules for me and you, there's no doubt about that.
- 47:10Prince Andrew has clearly made many poor decisions in his life,
- 47:14traveling to royal engagements in Britain and a helicopter rather
- 47:17than taking the train, criticizing the government's attempts to combat
- 47:21corruption over lunch, and with British businessmen in Kyrgyzstan, captaining
- 47:26a team in a medieval themed game show broadcast on
- 47:29national television. Yet his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, which continued
- 47:33after the latter's conviction for solicitation of prostitution involving a minor,
- 47:38is disturbing. On another level, the Prince's decision this weekend
- 47:42to give an interview to the BBC about that friendship,
- 47:44which entirely lacked empathy or remorse, compound the offense. Yes
- 47:49it does. And I said that right after the interview.
- 47:53That's one of the things that stood out to me
- 47:55right away. He had zero empathy for the victims he
- 47:59was on there, and all he cared about he was
- 48:00on a collision course course with attempting to refurbish his image.
- 48:05And I got news for you. You you know, you
- 48:07could slap a little bit of paint on that old car.
- 48:09But it's still going to be that old car. It's
- 48:11all dented up and the insides are all ripped up.
- 48:14And that's basically what we got going on here with
- 48:17U with the uh prints, because it's pretty much party
- 48:22over for him in the public eye. There's no way
- 48:24he could fix his image at this point. I don't
- 48:26think from the start, it was apparent that the Queen
- 48:31second son dwells not on Earth but on planet aristocracy.
- 48:35It is a land governed by rules and codes that
- 48:37are unfathomable to the rest of us. Wow. Yes, one
- 48:41hundred percent, this is spot on. How long have I
- 48:46been talking about that on this podcast since the beginning? Right?
- 48:49These people have they live in a separate reality from
- 48:52us where you and I. You know, if we when
- 48:54when we want to go blow off some steam, we
- 48:56want to go get off. We want to have a
- 48:57good time. You know, we might go to the casino,
- 48:59blow couple one hundred bucks, go on vacation, whatever it
- 49:02may be, whatever it may be, whatever your your vices
- 49:05that you you know, you go to let off steam,
- 49:07You do something to let off steam. That's what we do.
- 49:09When you have this kind of money. What what do
- 49:11you do. What gets you off? Well, you play with
- 49:14people's lives, I'm guessing. I mean that's what it looks like.
- 49:16That's what all of these people do. They manipulate everybody's
- 49:18lives so that they have so I don't know what
- 49:21enjoyment is It a game to them? Everybody's life a
- 49:24game to them. When the BBC's Emily Maitliss asked whether
- 49:29he had invited Epstein to a party, Andrew quickly corrected
- 49:32her it was a shooting weekend, a straightforward shooting weekend.
- 49:36The distinction between an evening event and staying with friends
- 49:39to fire guns and muddy fields is meaningless to anyone
- 49:42who grew up outside the English upper classes. Right, So
- 49:47these guys are out, Oh it's a shooting weekend, but
- 49:49you know, that's it. We just we just shot some guns.
- 49:51We didn't really talk or anything. We were just, you know,
- 49:53blew off a few rounds and hung out, No big deal. Throughout,
- 49:59he seemed to adhere to an honor code where ghosting
- 50:02a friend is unconscionably discourteous, but exploiting underage girls is
- 50:06merely a manner unbecoming. It is essentially a two tier
- 50:10view of the world where people are divided into equals
- 50:13and human chaff. In twenty eleven, the scandal surrounding Epstein,
- 50:17a former hedge fund manager, cost a former hedge fund
- 50:21manager and pedophile, cost Andrew his job as Britain's trade envoy,
- 50:25a role that involved indiscriminate schmoozing of dictators, oligarchs, and
- 50:29business leaders. Questions about their friendship have dogged him ever since.
- 50:33He presumably thought the interview would help refute the persistent
- 50:36allegation that he had sex with a minor, Virginia Roberts,
- 50:40then aged seventeen, in two thousand and one. In a
- 50:43court filing, Roberts said she was essentially trafficked by Epstein
- 50:46and forced to have sex with his friends, including Andrew.
- 50:49A secondary motive might have been to show remorse for
- 50:52the friendship, which continued long after it was clear exactly
- 50:56what kind of person Epstein was. And there is the
- 51:00real rub. Anybody who continued their relationship after this man's
- 51:04arrest really doesn't have a leg to stand on. There's
- 51:07certainly you certainly don't have any sort of moral ground
- 51:09to stand on. It's all dried up. You're alone on
- 51:14the island In fact, it's like Jeff Prope just said
- 51:17to you, Look, I got nothing for you to meet
- 51:18you back at camp, because that's basically what's going on here.
- 51:27On the surface, the millionaire's lifestyle was glittering donations to
- 51:30tech research, dinners with public intellectuals, but it's darkness ought
- 51:34to have been obvious to anyone who saw it up close.
- 51:37Epstein attended Andrew's daughter Beatrice's eighteenth birthday party at Windsor
- 51:41Castle in two thousand and six, two months after an
- 51:44arrest warrant was issued for his sexual assault of a minor.
- 51:49So you guys aren't great friends, right, No, it's lady
- 51:52g who was your real friend. But you're good enough
- 51:55friends that two months after this dude is indicted, you're
- 51:59in him to your daughter's birthday party at winder Castle.
- 52:05What does that say about you? Hansy Andy, Randy Andy
- 52:11modern version, Jeoffrey, You're a sick dude. Look, I'm going
- 52:15on record, folks, I'm on record, right, this guy's a
- 52:18sick dude. No matter what. This dude he doesn't pass
- 52:22the smell test, and he definitely doesn't pass the evidence
- 52:26test at this point either. So all signs lead to
- 52:30big trouble. He was given a plea bargain allowing him
- 52:35to serve just thirteen months in prison, as well as
- 52:37immunity from future prosecutions, not just for him, but for
- 52:41any potential, any potential co conspirators. So think about that
- 52:45for a minute, folks, you and your friends commit a crime.
- 52:49Do you really think there's any scenario, any ploysible universe
- 52:56where any of you get this sort of deal where
- 53:00you guys, every you who committed the crime and anyone
- 53:02who might have been involved potential co conspirators, not even
- 53:06named co conspirators, just potential. What sort of vague and
- 53:11blanket is that? What sort of protection blanket is that
- 53:15you would never be afforded that you and your friends
- 53:18would all get buried underneath the prison. When protesting his
- 53:23own innocence in the BBC interview, the Prince floundered. He
- 53:26sounded queasy and evasive. He could not have slept with
- 53:29Roberts on the days he alleged, he said, because he
- 53:32was at a pizza restaurant in a town near London.
- 53:35Why did he remember that so specifically? Because going to
- 53:38Pizza Express and woking is an unusual thing for me
- 53:40to do. Never mind that Woking is only thirty miles
- 53:43from London, putting it at about an hour's drive from
- 53:47Tramp nightclub where he's alleged to have met Roberts that evening.
- 53:51So okay, you brought your daughter there in the afternoon,
- 53:53but that evening thirty miles away. Not that long of
- 53:56a drive. Not that long of a drive, mister prince.
- 54:00And did you take a helicopter? Who knows what you do?
- 54:02You are the Prince of England, right, you can do
- 54:04whatever you want. Her memory of him as sweating also
- 54:09through the story into doubt. He believed I didn't sweat
- 54:12at the time because I had suffered what I would
- 54:15describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War
- 54:18when I was shot at Look, I get it. There
- 54:20is this can that there is a condition that can
- 54:24occur where you stop sweating. I was doing some research
- 54:27on that and reading up on that a little bit,
- 54:29and there's definitely that can occur. But it is very
- 54:34very very rare, very rare, less rare than a hyoid
- 54:38bone breaking in a soft suicide, folks, that's for sure. See,
- 54:42that's what they want us to do. They want us
- 54:44to believe the little pieces they want us to believe,
- 54:46but they don't want us to believe the other stuff. Right,
- 54:49it's just what they say. They're narrative. Remember what Jake
- 54:51Tapper told us on CNN. You don't have to read
- 54:55those WikiLeaks emails. We'll tell you what's in them. In fact,
- 54:58if you read them, that's illegal, mister Tapper. Come on,
- 55:04find a new line of work, all right. I hear
- 55:06the Iraqi Disinformation Bureaus looking for some help. Why don't
- 55:10you head on over and take your good buddy Don
- 55:12Lemon with you. On the second count, expressing remorse, the
- 55:17Prince also failed. May List asked Andrew straight out whether
- 55:20he regretted the friendship. Still not, he said, the people
- 55:23that I met in the opportunities that I was given
- 55:25to learn, either by him or because of him, were
- 55:27actually very useful. How could that even be possible? Epstein
- 55:32didn't even have a college degree. What was he providing
- 55:38you that was so essential? Oh? I know that people
- 55:42listening to this podc podcasts know that answer. It's kind
- 55:45of rhetorical. At this point. We know what he was
- 55:48providing you. We know what you like, Prince, we know
- 55:51what you're into, we know what your proclivities are, we
- 55:55know all right, it's time to come forward, do the
- 55:58right thing, have some honor, do the right thing. No
- 56:05room in the picture for another set of people Epstein's victims.
- 56:08She tried again later and got essentially the same answer.
- 56:11Remember that was one of my biggest things. I just
- 56:14it made me so mad that there was no empathy
- 56:17for those victims. I was talking to my dad as
- 56:19we were watching football yesterday, and I've never seen him
- 56:23so agitated about something either. My dad's always been very
- 56:26distrustful of the mainstream media in general, and ever since
- 56:31I was a kid, he would always you know, point
- 56:33things out to me and blah blah blah. But I've
- 56:35never seen him so agitated as he is right now
- 56:37with this whole entire situation and with the two tier
- 56:40justice system. And I think that he is a good
- 56:44indication of the silent majority and how the silent majority
- 56:47feels about all of this. So, like I said, let
- 56:52people can continue to laugh. Let people think that we're
- 56:54not going to get to where we're going in this case.
- 56:56But the dominoes are already starting to fall, right, folks.
- 57:00We have UK politicians calling for Andrew to go under
- 57:03oath UK politicians, and he does not have a diplomatic community.
- 57:08So if he subpoenaed, well, that's quite the conundrum, isn't it.
- 57:13As an interviewer, Maetlist was common forensic. The Prince said
- 57:17he and Epstein were not close friends. And yet Andrew
- 57:19had been on his private plane. Yes, had stayed on
- 57:22his private island. Yes, had stayed at his home in
- 57:25Palm Beach. Yes. After Epstein was released from prison where
- 57:28he was serving a sentence for procuring a minor for prostitution,
- 57:32Andrew stayed at Epstein's house in New York and was
- 57:34photographed walking through Central Park with him. I went there
- 57:38with the sole purpose of saying to him that because
- 57:40he had been convicted, it was inappropriate for us to
- 57:43be seen together. Maetlist was politely incredulous. You went to
- 57:47break up the relationship, and yet you stayed at the
- 57:50New York mansion several days. There's no answer for that.
- 57:56Prince Andrew should not have done this interview because he
- 57:59doesn't have legitimate answers to any of these questions. He
- 58:02sounds like a dullard. He sounds like a man who
- 58:05is guilty, folks, I don't know what you think. Show me.
- 58:07Shoot me those emails. Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com,
- 58:11b O B B Y c ap U C c
- 58:13I at proteon ProtonMail dot com. Send me, send me
- 58:17those emails. I want to know what you think. Do
- 58:19you think this man's guilty. I've been getting some great
- 58:22emails lately, I mean some really great in depth emails.
- 58:25And I'll tell you what seems to me. Everybody's on
- 58:28board with the same exact uh, the same exact idea here.
- 58:33It's it's the evidence. You follow the evidence right, and
- 58:35when the evidence leads you somewhere, you have to believe
- 58:37what you've what you've seen. And we've been doing this
- 58:41now for quite some time. And if you followed from
- 58:43the beginning, we've been on the scent this whole entire time.
- 58:47And you know all you have to do is go back.
- 58:49These are these are articles from the mainstream media, and
- 58:51the purpose of me reading these from the mainstream media
- 58:54is this to hang them with their own words. That way,
- 58:57nobody could go back and say, oh, you're using some
- 58:59conspiracy to confirm your piases. Don't you know that so
- 59:03and so wasn't involved. Well, look, go back check the evidence,
- 59:09and then get back to me and let me know
- 59:11what you think after that. Although the interview will be
- 59:16remembered for the weirdness of its details, the pizza and
- 59:18the sweat, its true value lies elsewhere. It provided, through
- 59:23an apparently unaware narrator, a portrait of the whole toxic
- 59:27brew that fed the Epstein scandal and others like it.
- 59:30When historians try to understand the interplay of celebrity and
- 59:34sexual predation in the early twenty first century, it will
- 59:37be as revealing a document as the recent books on
- 59:40Harvey Weinstein. Every abuser listen to this, Okay, listen to
- 59:44what she's saying here, and then think about what we've
- 59:46come to the conclusion of on this podcast. Every abuser
- 59:50requires enablers. Every abusers requires silence victims. Every abuser requires
- 59:57blind eyes. Check check check. Epstein had that all in spades.
- 1:00:02All these people around him, step Monopolis, the big wigs,
- 1:00:06all of them that were around him, especially after his arrest,
- 1:00:10were enablers at the very least. This is a Rico case,
- 1:00:13all right. I got an email from a mister B
- 1:00:15in Florida, say, who was dumbfounded? How this wasn't a
- 1:00:19Rico case. It meets all of the parameters. And if
- 1:00:23there's a lawyer listening out there, I'd love to have
- 1:00:25you chime in. I'd love to talk to you and
- 1:00:26maybe even have you come on the show and discuss
- 1:00:30Rico allegations, because let me tell you what, I'm from
- 1:00:32New York. I'm from New York, I'm Italian. I know
- 1:00:34all about Rico cases, all right. I've seen them up
- 1:00:38close and personal. And if anything has ever been a
- 1:00:40Rico case, this is it right here. I'm telling you, folks,
- 1:00:43this is a Rico case. And that's the way in,
- 1:00:46because once you slap them with Rico, everybody's in trouble.
- 1:00:49You could slap people. You can bring people in who
- 1:00:51have just associated via phone call with these people and
- 1:00:55just start putting the screws to them. But why aren't
- 1:00:59they doing that? Who's pulling the strings? Who's telling them? No?
- 1:01:05These forty five minutes of television laid out the whole story. Sorry,
- 1:01:08Dynamic take an aristocrat and offer him access to an
- 1:01:12exciting world of glittering people. Remember that he is used
- 1:01:15to from birth, the constant present, the presence of staff,
- 1:01:19so that he invisibly divides the world into his peers
- 1:01:22and those shadowy beings who fulfill his every whim. And
- 1:01:26that's what really, It's that sense of entitlement that these
- 1:01:30people have. They can have whatever they want. Their money
- 1:01:33says to them and their sick world that they can
- 1:01:35have whatever they want and do whatever they want with
- 1:01:37whoever they want. And if that happens to be your daughter,
- 1:01:40if that happens to be your sister, that happens to
- 1:01:42be your wife, your mother, your grandmother, your cousin, well,
- 1:01:46just so, what to hell with you? What are you
- 1:01:47gonna do about it? What are you gonna go to
- 1:01:49the cops? Big deal? Big deal? What happens if you
- 1:01:51go to the cops? What's god to precedent? Does this scent? Right?
- 1:01:54Set right? Go to the cops, and then what happens?
- 1:01:56You get into the jail cell, get to go out
- 1:01:58for twelve fourteen hours a day, still, get to go
- 1:02:01out and associate and and and rape girls or whatever
- 1:02:03it is you're doing. Come on, come on, it's not
- 1:02:07the real world. My bosses don't even get that kind
- 1:02:10of that kind of treatment. Rich drug lords in Mexico,
- 1:02:14where it's as corrupt as the day is long. Don't
- 1:02:16get that sort of treatment, folks. But here in the
- 1:02:19good old USA, with the great intelligence agencies seeping their
- 1:02:24sick paws into everything, this is what we deal with.
- 1:02:28Are you not entertained? Have you not had enough? Have
- 1:02:31you not had enough enough wine? Have you had not
- 1:02:34enough gladatorial games? People fed to the whims of the press,
- 1:02:38because that's basically what it is. They hope to keep
- 1:02:41us fat on entertainment and sloth so that they can
- 1:02:44continue to pillage and rape fit literally and end not
- 1:02:51it's it's who. It's maddening. It's to the point where
- 1:02:55I'd lose my train of thought and I can't even
- 1:02:58form the correct words without going on a curse filled
- 1:03:02tirade of just words that I shouldn't be using on
- 1:03:05this podcast. I don't wish to appear grand. But there
- 1:03:09were a lot of people who were walking around Jeffrey
- 1:03:11Epstein's house. He told Matelis, I interacted with them, if
- 1:03:14you will, to say good morning, good afternoon, but I
- 1:03:17didn't ask what are you doing here? Why are you here?
- 1:03:19What's going on? Then offer him the use of a house,
- 1:03:22a plane, an island, an implicit transaction of money for
- 1:03:25royal stardust. He is a trophy rare even then a
- 1:03:29stuffed lion to show off to friends. Well, I think
- 1:03:33she's right on that account, But I also think that
- 1:03:36Prince Andrew was trapped. He's not the brightest guy in
- 1:03:38the world. Obviously he was walked right into this black
- 1:03:41mail operation. And once he was walked in and he
- 1:03:43was caught up having sex with these young girls, well,
- 1:03:46heing no other choice but to be the trophy friend, right,
- 1:03:50He had no other choice to show up when Epstein wanted. Look,
- 1:03:53he flew across the pond to quote unquote break up
- 1:03:55with Epstein. What does that even mean? This is a
- 1:04:01world where houses are busy, as Andrew put it, like
- 1:04:04a railway station run by staff, of course, and are
- 1:04:08much more convenient than staying in a hotel. A whole
- 1:04:11class of humans just so much more scenery keeps the
- 1:04:14world turning. A stratified approach to humanity was evident throughout
- 1:04:18the interview. Repeatedly, Andrew missed opportunities to express sympathy for
- 1:04:22Epstein's victims. His pr advisor quit two weeks before the
- 1:04:26interview after advising against it. They didn't seem to exist
- 1:04:29as vividly as he and his friends. And we discussed that, right.
- 1:04:33Remember they hired the pr advisor Stein I believe his
- 1:04:38name was, and then he fired and there was no
- 1:04:40we didn't know why. Well, now it comes out this
- 1:04:43is why he not fired. Excuse me, he quit. This
- 1:04:45is why he quit, and it comes out now he
- 1:04:47quit because he didn't want Andrew to do this. This
- 1:04:50is a car crash of an interview. The guy obviously
- 1:04:52knows what he's doing, and he was trying to protect Andrew.
- 1:04:55But once again, the royals know better. And if his
- 1:04:59mother wasn't ninety t two years old or however old
- 1:05:01she was, I'm sure as as shit that the Queen
- 1:05:05mother would not have let this interview crack off. She
- 1:05:07knows who the dullard son is. If the Prince had
- 1:05:11not come across so unsympathetically, there might have been another
- 1:05:14lesson to be drawn from his words, the deforming effect
- 1:05:17of Britain's obsession with its royal family on members of
- 1:05:20that family. They are treated with extreme deference and extreme resentment,
- 1:05:25a divide that threatens to shear their psychees into two
- 1:05:28Kate Middleton is praised and reviled for the flat, dullness
- 1:05:31of her public image. For every cruel column accusing Megan
- 1:05:34and Harry of narcissism, there are huge numbers of supporters
- 1:05:37who adore them uncritically. For Prince Andrew, there is a
- 1:05:40sharp disconnect between the fawning millionaires with whom he surrounds
- 1:05:44himself and the relentlessly hostility and the relentless hostility of
- 1:05:47a press that sees him as a spendthrift playboy. Well,
- 1:05:52you know, if a leopard has spots, if I mean,
- 1:05:54if it has spots and it's a leopard, it's probably
- 1:05:56a leopard. Right. If it walks like a duck and
- 1:05:58quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Buried in
- 1:06:02Andrew's words were plenty of reasons to pity him. He
- 1:06:05grew up, he said in an institution, using the same
- 1:06:08word for the royal family that you might for a
- 1:06:10children's home or youth prison. He was careful of having
- 1:06:13photographs taken constantly on his guard, and he cannot tell
- 1:06:17if anything strange was happening around Epstein, because if you
- 1:06:20are somebody like me, then people behave in a subtly
- 1:06:23different way. It reminded me of the old joke that
- 1:06:25the Queen thinks everyone smells of fresh paint. His description
- 1:06:29of his inability to sweat after serving in the Navy
- 1:06:31sounded like a hint that he found the experience traumatic.
- 1:06:34Despite his apparent lack of remorse, I did feel there
- 1:06:38was something tragic about his story, a man born into
- 1:06:40a role he didn't ask for, given money and attention
- 1:06:43he didn't earn, living a gilded, hyper visible, fundamentally abnormal life,
- 1:06:49and yet the sympathy stretches only so far. Prince Andrew
- 1:06:52said Epstein had taken advantage of his tendency to be
- 1:06:55too honorable. It is more likely that Epstein took advantage
- 1:06:58of his entitlement and self regard. Correct, he took entitlement
- 1:07:02of his perversions. Really, because what they're not saying in
- 1:07:04this article is he was caught up in that black
- 1:07:07mal scheme. That's what they're not saying in the article.
- 1:07:09Once again, they're just scratching the surface, just giving you enough,
- 1:07:12and you have to put the pieces together yourself. There
- 1:07:18are only two ways for Andrew to explain the friendship.
- 1:07:21The first is that he knowingly associated with a convicted
- 1:07:24sex offender, because he did not regard that as disqualification.
- 1:07:28The second that he was too stupid or too incurious
- 1:07:31to comprehend the evil going on around him. I lean
- 1:07:34toward the latter explanation. Privileged obliviousness in the royal families
- 1:07:39the fault setting. Some have escaped it. Andrew's sister Anne
- 1:07:42refused royal titles for her children, as she was determined
- 1:07:45to bring them up outside the royal bubble. Andrew did not.
- 1:07:48His daughters are princesses. At her wedding last year, the
- 1:07:52younger one, Eugenie, chose a reading from The Great Gatsby,
- 1:07:55which she said reminded her of her future husband. He
- 1:07:58smiled understandingly, much more than understandingly, observes the novel's narrator,
- 1:08:02Nick Carraway, in the section of the novel read out
- 1:08:05by sister Beatrice. It was one of those rare smiles
- 1:08:08with a quality of eternal reassurance in it, that you
- 1:08:11may come across four or five times in life. How delightful,
- 1:08:15except that the man Caraway is describing as Jay Gatsby,
- 1:08:18a con man who wheasels his way into high society
- 1:08:20through flattery and charm. There were careless people, writes F.
- 1:08:24Scott Fitzgerald of two of The Great Gatsby's other characters,
- 1:08:27Tom and Daisy. They smashed up things and creatures and
- 1:08:30then retreated back into their money, or their vast carelessness,
- 1:08:33or whatever it was that kept them together and let
- 1:08:35other people clean up the mess that they had made.
- 1:08:38In his interview with the BBC, Prince Andrew revealed himself
- 1:08:41as a man of vast carelessness. He was friends with
- 1:08:44a man who smashed up young girls lives and used
- 1:08:46his money and influence to secure a plea deal that
- 1:08:49saw him treated with incredible lenience. At the very least,
- 1:08:52Prince Andrew tolerated and indulged that impulse in Epstein. Now,
- 1:08:55after twenty four hours of backlash over his disastrous interview,
- 1:08:59British News British newspapers are carrying quotes from the Prince
- 1:09:03telling friends of his regret at the friendship and great
- 1:09:06sympathy for the victims. Other people are now trying to
- 1:09:09clean up the mess he has made. Well, those people
- 1:09:12are just nothing more than more. They're there enablers as well.
- 1:09:15One thing we're not gonna do is pick up anybody's mess.
- 1:09:17Around here. We're gonna call them like we see him,
- 1:09:19and we are on record here saying that Prince Andrew
- 1:09:22needs to go under oath. He is not being truthful.
- 1:09:27In my opinion, he is showing no remorse towards these victims.
- 1:09:32At the very least he should have remorse, considering he
- 1:09:35enabled Epstein's behavior just by being around him. He enabled
- 1:09:39the behavior of Epstein. All right, anyway, folks, I just
- 1:09:45want to give a shout out to some people who
- 1:09:47have been real huge supporters of the show. Maddie, Hannah Leanne.
- 1:09:53You know, you guys have all been incredibly supportive, not
- 1:09:57only with donations, but with you know, the emails, uh
- 1:10:00shooting me different leads and different angles for stories, and
- 1:10:04it's incredibly appreciated. If you guys have any ideas for
- 1:10:08different stories for the listeners out there, different things you
- 1:10:10want to hear on the show, feel free to email me.
- 1:10:13The email is BO B B y C A p
- 1:10:17U C C I at ProtonMail dot com and I
- 1:10:20try and answer back in a very timely manner. So
- 1:10:23shoot me some ideas for different you know, different things
- 1:10:26you want to talk about on the show, or you
- 1:10:28want me to talk about different parts of the case
- 1:10:31that maybe we we missed, because remember we just started
- 1:10:34the Daily Drop beginning of October ish, so there was
- 1:10:37a ton of stuff that we we missed leading up
- 1:10:40to that. So maybe we could if some people out
- 1:10:43there are still a little confused about what's going on,
- 1:10:46maybe you guys want me to go and do like
- 1:10:48a clean up episode perhaps and kind of do a timeline,
- 1:10:51a new an updated timeline of what's occurred up until
- 1:10:54this point, and we can go back and start reading
- 1:10:57some older articles and see how things have changed, perhaps,
- 1:11:00or like I said, whatever you guys think. So I
- 1:11:03will be back tomorrow with another Daily Drop like usual,
- 1:11:07and like I said, I'm gonna talk about that other
- 1:11:10article where basically the guy is just bashing everybody who
- 1:11:16doesn't believe the narrative, the official narrative of the Epstein
- 1:11:19Store