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Episode 22: The Death of Charlie Kirk · The Social Evolution Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everyone, welcome to the social-evolution podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Patrick Barney, one of your hosts with me is Curtis Frazier, the other host.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, since it's topical, we're going to talk about the death of conservative commentator, Charlie Kirk, who was killed, assassinated on September 10th, yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're getting, you know, we're recording this September 11th, and which is another anniversary of people dying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to discuss this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have my, I'm pretty conflicted about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you have any thoughts, Curtis, just right off the bat?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, personally, I don't take much time to note every one who is on the opposite side of, you know, my ideology.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My only understanding of Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a good friend of, you know, like Trump's son.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like, my dude fascist piece of shit, so I don't really mourn his death anymore than I would mourn the death of, like, say, Mussolini or Hitler, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, like, I, at no point do I think, oh, well, we have to, you know, take the higher ground and let these assholes spew their toxicity and take over the country, because what else are we going to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think I think of blowing their fucking brains out as is a pretty good step to getting those assholes right off of You know, our media You know, out of our influence, you know, if everybody that had that mindset had their fucking brains blown out We wouldn't have people with that mindset anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, I guess my thoughts are you know I don't know the guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know anything about him other than, you know, he's a fascist piece of shit So fucking my blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on my rock anymore
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you if you disagree with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, first, I learned of the, um, of his death, uh, yesterday evening, and I saw a video of, like, a really close-up video of, um, him getting killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was disturbing to say the least, you know, like, I mean, I was at work 11 1.5 hours yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that he was killed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, who is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what my wife said too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my god, he was killed and she's like, yeah, I'm like Charlie Kirk and she didn't know who he was, you know, then then she then I told him to told her about him and she looked more into it But it was super disturbing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like seeing the image of my head is definitely disturbing and A side from that though like Charlie Kirk was not a good dude
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[SPEAKER_00]: that despite what like Trump's public declaration about how he's a great person and other people he said FST was a great person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so honestly if Trump says you're a great person you're probably the most horrible human being we can imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and besides you know besides like Trump saying
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just generally right-leaning people saying that he was a person of God and all this stuff, dude was not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for example, when Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked, he smilingly said, well, I hope somebody in San Francisco has the money to bail out this guy who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: shitty rhetoric where, where, you know, like he made light of someone being assaulted with a hammer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, regardless of what you think of Nancy Pelosi,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the whole right wing had that attitude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, we should have killed her, no, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right, we're all right,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck him, fuck his fucking family and fuck anybody who liked him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, if you fucking die too, your piece of shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, I mean, he was not a good dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's publicly said multiple false statements meant to criticize Democrats and left-leaning individuals and bolster right-leaning individuals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something that he's done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has supported
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[SPEAKER_00]: the cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, which is basically just a new anti-Jewish anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's funny when I work to have
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe God had a hand in his death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, God doesn't make mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if your fascist brains got blown out of your fucking, I don't know how he died.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he get shot in the house?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shot in the throat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because shot in the throat, it was horrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but that was a really pleasant death to have that he really fucking deserved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they never catch the guy who did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I hope the CIA killed him the way we're all told that they killed Kennedy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope that, you know, like these government agencies that we've all had the conspiracy theories that they killed people that do this and they maybe they decided that, you know, we're going to quit supporting the wealthy ruling class and take the side of the people and they did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the person will never be caught just like the person who killed Kennedy will never really be caught
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[SPEAKER_01]: Marilyn Monroe never be caught and a person who of course there was an expiles episode where that was all the same guy Well, Marilyn, Marilyn, Marilyn, when we're just dying of a overdone, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know where that episode of the expiles?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a theory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The musings of the cigarette and the musings of a cigarette smoking man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Season 4, the backstory of the cigarettes smoking man chose him killing Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr. A few other people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember first seen, and I was like, shit, this is a great episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty much all great episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all mean there are so many good episodes of the Axe Falls, like they have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's like the original run there was like 200 episodes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then with the two extra seasons that were later on, there's like, you know, 215, 2120 episodes, something like that, 2115, and so many of them are great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many of them are fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many of them are so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As I was saying, though, Charlie Kirk promoted the idea of cultural Marxism, and I actually had a friend, like, I had heard about, I had heard about the concept of cultural Marxism from Jordan Peterson, and another great guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sidecastle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't, I hadn't really, I knew Jordan Peterson was a, was a, was a D-bag, so I didn't really look into it, but my,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the this guy I worked with when I was a teacher at Cincinnati State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a Jewish guy, a fellow teacher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and he was telling me that cultural Marxism is like an anti-Semitic dog whistle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hi, I didn't know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it all about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically, cultural Marxism, as he said, is a masked term for basically a global conspiracy led by Jewish socialists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it doesn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a real thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we're on a socialism is bad until Trump starts to own government companies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, money off of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then it's pure, pure capitalists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Socialism is horrible when, you know, when it's universal healthcare or universal free schools,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but when it's the wealthy ruling class or the government of the business, which is what brought all those air quotes Socialist communist countries down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's just more the American dream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good business man That's why he's turned a presidency into a profit game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Fucking it's pretty ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish my IQ was 55 then I believe all that dumb shit
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Charlie Kirk, you know, he was anti-Semitic, he spread COVID misinformation, he spread the election fraud claims which there has been no evidence ever that any form of widespread fraud was committed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a Christian nationalist and Christian nationalism is just
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just fascism, except the specifically Christian, like, you know, basically very Christian centric, right, fascism, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we only hate who Jesus said it was okay to hate, right, right, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In our interpretation of Jesus, and he's, you know, he's a Christian, he was a Christian nationality believed that the United States should be legally a Christian nation, no separation
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, he specifically said, and this is something that has been pretty funny back in 2023 during a live talk or debate, he said that he thinks that gun deaths, so for example, like school shootings like Sandy Hook, things like that, are probably just a price we
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[SPEAKER_00]: for second amendment rights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, the more I learn about this guy, the happier I am that he's fucking dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, wow, you know, that's appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, honestly, with that kind of stance, I don't think if they even catch the person who killed him, they shouldn't prosecute him because he, he may not agree, but he will defend to the death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His right to carry that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and you got his stupid ass shot right to throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what his last thoughts were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should have more gun roles, or maybe everybody should have a gun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After, you know, as a leftist, not a Democrat, as a leftist, I have mixed feelings about guns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On the one hand, severe gun control is, you know, a form of repression by the state, but on the other hand, you know, there is little need for
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[SPEAKER_00]: people to have a song rifles that enable you to kill like dozens and dozens of people within a few seconds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that that's not you mean we don't need 90 round magazines right right right with an automatic rifle right why not I'm a well I think we should all get a belt fed machine gun sarcasm you know so I've guns just for the record
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[SPEAKER_01]: but I'm not trying to shoot somebody because I'd rather beat you to death with my bare hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I called George Floyd a scumbag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he called George Floyd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, everything I learned about this guy, I just found out he was dead today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he called George Floyd a scumbag.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, he wanted to make it seem like it's okay to murder someone when you're a cop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's like, yeah, George Floyd's just come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You counter, he was counterfeiting money or whatever, because you know, the sentence for counterfeiting money is, it's not yet death.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No trial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always has been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, then, you know, he believed in the great replacement theory, which is basically that white people are being replaced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: through various means, like laws and whatnot by non-white people, you know, immigration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not, we're not all people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's white people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's non-white people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, he's like, he, you know, he was, so he's a, he's a, he's a massive racist, you know, he's a racist, anti-Semitic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy was a toxic piece of shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like I think we're a better nation now that he's dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly maybe we shouldn't say his name because I don't want to murderize this dipshit in any way but if everybody like him and we'll just get shot and throw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So another another really horrible thing that he advocated was banning transgender affirming care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I want to be clear about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Transgender affirming
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why it's a 100% good is because people who experience gender dysphoria, it has been shown that rates of self-harm are greatly reduced when they receive gender-affirming care, meaning so things like puberty blockers, things like therapy for feelings of gender dysphoria, all sorts of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if you ban transgender affirming care, is that you want more people to commit suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, they don't accept themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you, you know, when you ban transgender affirming care, you're saying, oh, okay, these people are evil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like them, so it's okay that they commit suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and or are murdered by other people who hate them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can replace transgender people with fascist, and I'm really on board with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let's ban fascist affirming care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I grew that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like if everyone who had the mindset that, you know, there's superior to others, and should be allowed to rule everything and resources, and yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet another position that he held that is is totally terrible is that, you know, Israel is good for starving Palestinians, and it's like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Israel's been in control of the area known as Palestine or Israel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you want to call it for at least 60 years,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or earlier, depending on, you know, what exactly you want to define as control, you know, they first kind of took power in 1948 in the area, and then there's wars and conflicts, and then, you know, solidifying control in 1966 and with the final war with Jordan I believe, not that they're having been other wars, but the point is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Israelis have been in control of that land for 60 years and have set up an apartheid state where Palestinians are treated like shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have full rights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have to go through checkpoints to their lives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're dispensable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally an apartheid state meaning that they are
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[SPEAKER_00]: is really to go on, oppressing these people, starving them to death, bombing them, murdering them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that any act of self-defense by Palestinians is actually an act of aggression, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it really, like you really have to get convoluted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to say that that Palestinians are the ones who are who are in the wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You really have to get convoluted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like Charlie Kirk was a fucking horrible dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and he's on Russia's side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kramer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know everything I learn about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I learn one thing that makes me think maybe his life was worthwhile at all?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything about this guy that would make me think maybe
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know what there is so so the dude so the dude advocated for violent racist
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[SPEAKER_00]: hateful, oppressive views against a bunch of different people and the only group that he really felt like deserve for rights were white, Christian people, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the dude's advocating violent positions, he's committing millions of doubt that the dude's a millionaire was a millionaire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's giving millions of dollars to people like Trump, who are doing things like, uh, I don't know, sending out his Gestapo ice police across the fucking nation to cities that he doesn't like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: by claiming that they're the violent ones when they're like number eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one also thinks it's cool to beat your wife.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trump thinks that shouldn't count as a crime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't she?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He defends women.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's no one no one is better to women than Donald Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically what I'm saying is that some people are saying that no matter what political violence is bad, no matter what we should we should take the moral high ground, we shouldn't be harming people, we shouldn't be using violence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we never should have fought in World War 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We never should have gone against England.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we never, like when England came back and for the War of 1812, we never should have fought back as it would have learned our lesson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We never should have tried to, never should have had the Civil War ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should just let them have their slaves, it's not our business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, a good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a fucking retard, those are very valid points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And times you just have to understand that they're going to kill you if you don't fucking kill them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm, and I think that's absolutely true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, I agree with this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Charlie Kirk said and did and committed himself to horrible things, to terrible, terrible things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was not a good person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He despite what he said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was not a Christian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was not a man of God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was not a holy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there is a hell, he's rotting in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's not rotting yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's only been a dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on his way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what I don't know that would be like you know his religion is a real thing I wonder what it was like to find out the note note note down mass you're actually on the wrong side Did you do you understand what these words mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you really honest to God think that our message you sit you really honest to me think that the message was
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like to be a hateful toxic piece of shit drag everybody else down so you could live on top like dumbass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kirk was not a good person and to everybody who is saying like regardless of of what he said he shouldn't have been assassinated I would say you're you're wrong like if you are a hateful person who is in the public eye spewing hateful shit and you are actively supporting with millions of dollars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hateful initiatives that lead to mass suffering, you are a violent person who needs to be stopped, is absolutely self-defense to kill Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm gonna say about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if you don't think it is a form of self-defense to kill a person in the public eye who is helping to create mass suffering,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know how to help you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to get you to see reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You stop thinking with your feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Start letting your feelings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, dictate what you think and things like, you know, politeness and, you know, what are we doing in a civil society?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have, we're not in a civil society.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Trump society has been a band.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for this toxic, masculine, horseshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A civil society would have put Trump
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[SPEAKER_00]: and everyone else away for January 6th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I left them there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they would have left them there a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that, on January 6th, we came to realize that we're living in a lawless society.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're living in a society where there are laws for the poor and other people who don't have money to get away with their crimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there are laws for minorities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are laws for minorities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are laws for poor people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's laws for the good on his white people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That are destroying, never for everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I urge you, basically, I urge you to rethink your position about Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is if you're on the left or the right or the center, you say, oh, political violence is bad, nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need political violence to maintain our freedom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we, if this country is ever going to be OK again, if it's ever going to contain more freedom than it does now, if it's ever going to increase freedom,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and take care of its citizens through initiatives like single payer health care, universal college tuition, free lunches, if we're ever going to get there, we have to stop the whack jobs like Carl Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From running things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have to quit tolerating their bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they insist on pushing their bullshit to the point that you have to Shoot them in the neck and watch them die, then that's that was their choice Because they very easily cut us away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe all people are people and you know, we should treat them right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe but that didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he got what he deserved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And from what I can tell if you listen to his words
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[SPEAKER_01]: And his stance on things, if someone else, if someone on the left talking about universal health care and free lunches and that sort of thing, we're shot in the neck, then well, he would be happy that they're dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would take the exact stance that I have, which is get that dumbass off my rock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she was a state senator, something like that, she was assassinated, she was murdered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Melissa Hortman, I think her name was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Melissa Hortman lawyer and former Minnesota state representative, she was assassinated on June 14th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were shot and killed at their home by a man impersonating a player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: police officer and basically, you know, jute for being a democratic senator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guarantee you, even if she was not a great person, often, you know, elected officials aren't that great of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was a way better person than Charlie Kirkwood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the right, you know, they laughed and thought it was great, you know, people on the right, like people on Fox news, you know, we're thinking and thinking it was, it was fucking great that she was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's fine when the other side's killed, but they're killing people like, yeah, I guess that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're a horrible person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no cognitive dissonance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to fuck yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody on like there there are people on the left like me and Curtis who's think that political violence is it's disturbing and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's disturbing the unfortunate, but ultimately an active self-defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the way I look at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you have time and time again being shown what is morally correct and what is not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've chosen the side of being a toxic asshole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Time is again because you think that that somehow makes you tough guy or the strong person or whatever the fuck it is inside your mind.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm happy, I was on first, I was really upset, but now I'm starting to get to the point where it's like I understand that this Trumpian dystopic America that he's creating is necessary to wake people up enough to realize that we can't just let them keep doing that or they're gonna ruin it for everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And unless you want, unless you want it fucking ruined, you're gonna have to take some form of action.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I'm glad he's dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope everybody else gets fucking shot too.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or incinerated or drowned or you know, or you know, playing falls on on why you know, pretty much anything that, you know, forces their existence into a state of not on being.
26:06
[SPEAKER_00]: If you basically, if you are a toxic piece of shit who believes, for example, in cultural Marxism, or is happy when trans people come into a side.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Just want to say fuck you, and I hope you go to hell along with Charlie Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and you know, if you can't stop yourself, you know, you could do us all the favor, and just save us the time and the bullets, and blow your own fucking brains out there, or hang yourself with a rope if you can't afford a gun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck and kill yourself.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We all know most of the people on your side are either a billionaire, or just too fucking poor to have a pot to piss in.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can sell the piss, because that's what that's what that's about, or for leather and.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, you could save your own soul right now, renounce all the evil you've ever believed in, and socially evolved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be our preferred option.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we're happy to have you aboard as long as you just say, yeah, I believe in some terrible shit when I was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, like, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to join the fight for freedom now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If God wouldn't save Charlie Kirk, why the fuck would he save me?