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#139 - Elon Musk and Trump Meltdown Goes Nuclear · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  So, MAGA meltdown has happened.
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  Donald Trump and Elon Musk are officially divorced.
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  All right, I had to talk about this today because it was nonstop.
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  I actually caught probably when it really got heated up, I saw about an hour
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  into it where everything just went off the rails with Elon and Donald Trump.
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  I think it was kind of everybody was playing nice, and it was until Donald Trump
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  kind of put it out there that Elon went crazy.
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  And then everything just went off.
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  There was no recovery. We're going to take a couple of look at different things.
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  We're going to look at both of their social media pages because that's where it's been happening.
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  And I mean, is it a joke? Is it all just like, is it really not actually happening?
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  Are they pulling one on us? Are they fooling us? I sure hope so,
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  but I don't think that is what is happening. Okay.
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  All right. So what happened?
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  What happened? Elon, Elon, Elon, Elon.
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  So I don't know if a lot of things had just been bubbling up and then just hit a boiling point or what.
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  Whenever the last day that Trump, excuse me, Elon was out the White House and
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  was being kind of dismissed, his time of service was over.
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  It looked like things didn't look that pretty.
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  Elon had that black eye. It was said to be messed around playing with his son.
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  That's neither here nor there, but then it just... I know people made a bigger
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  deal than that, like what was actually behind that, and then now it's like,
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  Now, Elon and Trump are just, for everyone to see what was happening behind
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  closed doors is in front of everyone, you know?
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  And like I said, could they be in two separate rooms just tweeting at each other
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  and really nothing is happening? Or is this the real deal?
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  I did not see this coming. I mean, I, I, their whole coming together happened
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  last year in about August.
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  It seemed like when they had their first kind of sit down and their talk and getting on together.
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  And it seemed like we were, we were seeing a relationship form and I did not see it all this coming.
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  And I know people out there were hoping for it, wanting it to happen,
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  but let's see where it started derailing today.
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  Because Elon started this. Elon started this because it was more,
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  he doesn't want massive overspending, but I think there was something that,
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  that was probably just more of an excuse.
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  That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking is more of an excuse.
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  This is why it's like, it's tough. You're kind of, we're like the kids in the middle of a divorce.
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  Which parent are we going to go with? You know, do we got to pick one?
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  You know, when it's like, I really like both of them, you know?
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  And but it's like do we have to pick a side and i i don't
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  think we do i think we'd right now it's just whatever you say
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  it's going to turn out you're going to made us you're going
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  to say something you regret you know in the heat of the moment all right so
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  he's sweet i mean he's been going on i mean elon he tweets all the time anyways
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  it's his platform but it started today i think it really tailed off when this
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  was the thing that set it off when elon this is when and everything was too far gone to recover.
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  When Elon brought in the Epstein files and said that Trump is actually hiding
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  the files because he is on those files. Elon tweets.
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  Time to drop the really big bomb at real to Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
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  That is the real reason they have not been made public.
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  Have a nice day, DJT. When I saw this, I saw this probably an hour after it
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  had went out and I was just, what the hell just happened?
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  You know, people, I know people are like giddy and it's, it's fun.
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  It's, it's hilarious, but it's like, did this, what actually happened?
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  Happened behind scenes.
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  Is it because Elon wanted him to be taken care of with Tesla?
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  He wanted him with his businesses to be taken care of and to have some money
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  coming in and just, and that's why he was reaching for what Donald Trump knew
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  is way too much of an overreach.
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  Is that what's going on? Because that's what people are saying and people are
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  making it seem like, and it's for good reason.
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  It's for good reason. Cause let's actually jump over to see what Donald Trump tweeted today.
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  It didn't really tweet. It posted. So it's like they both got their platforms.
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  Trump's putting it on his, his, his platform.
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  Elon's tweeting on his, this is what kind of set it all off.
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  Eight hours ago, Elon Trump tweeted, Elon was wearing thin.
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  I asked him to leave. I took away his EV mandate that forced everyone to buy
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  electric cars that nobody else wanted that he knew for months I was going to do.
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  And he just went crazy. So let's dissect this. I asked him to leave. I asked him to leave.
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  What? It was his time to leave. It was, he wasn't, he knew he was his,
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  he wasn't going to be there for, he had 120 days.
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  He was going to be there to get Doge up and around. And it's like,
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  Doge is just like, what's the point of it now?
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  Like he had all this pie in the sky. We're going to get everything under control.
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  I'm just, I'm just completely blown away that this is actually happening.
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  Are these guys just acting impulsively and just saying stuff and not really thinking it through?
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  It seems right now that Trump is
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  the more reasonable person because he was sitting back taking a lot of it.
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  And then now an Elon just blew the lid off when he brings up the Epstein.
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  He's just like, seems like he's just writing something on the bathroom wall
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  and just trying to smear Trump for some reason.
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  Trump always he always nobody gets along
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  with him because he has to be
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  right he it seems like he he whatever he
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  says goes I mean he's the president now so yes whatever he
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  says goes but it's like everybody it seems like that works with him ends up
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  having a falling out always it's it never lasts it never lasts and I guess it's
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  like because I don't really see as see Elon as alpha male alpha dog like Trump
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  and it's in their relationship it was more.
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  Trump was the alpha dude in the room and Elon was cool with that but what had
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  been bubbling up for these first like three months they couldn't even if they can't last together and.
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  If they can't keep a respectful relationship, I don't know who can.
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  I don't know who can with Trump. It's like, I mean, you always,
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  people would characterize Trump and make him a character of like,
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  he, he's just a hothead. He's an ego, egomaniac.
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  And then, oh, it does seem like nobody ever lasts in, in working with him.
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  And that's why he's, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired.
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  And I get, as a businessman, I get that is cause he, and that's why business
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  overall can sometimes just like take you off because it just, it's just a blemish.
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  It's a black mark on our human race, you know, in a sense, because it's just,
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  you, you treat people like cogs and like parts, you know, if you don't work,
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  I'm going to throw you out.
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  If you don't work, I'm going to, you're, you're done. And it's like,
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  that's what's made him. I guess that's what you have to do to be a businessman.
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  I'm, I don't go, I'm torn in this whole situation that is happening.
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  It's just insane to me that is actually happening.
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  And I don't even, I don't know if it's, if it's beyond recovery,
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  it would, it would seem like it is.
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  I don't see these guys coming back.
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  Every relationship. I, I seems like I say it over and over.
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  I Trump, he, nobody lasts with him.
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  Nobody lasts with him. Everybody always ends up walking out or getting thrown out.
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  And Elon was leaving on good terms. He'd done his job.
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  Doge was put in place, implemented. Oh, it was definitely overpromised, underdelivered.
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  But I mean, still hundreds of billions of dollars saved. That's still, that's not pennies.
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  And this is not just he wanted, oh, because there was a bloated bill that Trump
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  and his administration is trying to push through. That, to me,
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  it seems like that is just an excuse by Elon.
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  It seems like that's an excuse. It was an excuse to like blow up.
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  Elon, I feel like he had to be the one that completely instigated and pushed
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  this over way over the edge.
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  I mean, I know I did a video this morning about this and I knew it was bad.
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  I did not think it was this bad. I did not think it was going to go this way.
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  But that's pretty much all Trump's. He tweeted that and then they really got into it.
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  Elon had been poking him all day long and even before this leading up to this
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  pushing against this whole bloated bill. But that had to have been just an excuse.
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  It's just crazy. It's just insane to me. And then it was just back and forth all day long.
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  The easiest way to save money in our budgets is Trump tweeting,
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  billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies
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  and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it.
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  A little bit later, Trump tweeting or truthing on his platform.
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  I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago.
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  This is one of the greatest bills ever presented to Congress.
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  It's a record cut in expenses, $1.6 trillion, and it's the biggest tax cut ever given.
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  If this bill doesn't pass, there will be a 68% tax increase and things far worse than that.
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  I didn't create this mess. I'm here to fix it.
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  This puts our country on a path of greatness. Make America great again.
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  Trump is just, he's got to push this through.
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  He's, there's no going back. He's got to get this done. He knows he's got,
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  it's, it's the, he's just taking his, the, the pill that he knows he has to
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  swallow and forcing it down.
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  And because there's no going back, if they don't get this done,
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  he knows it would go terrible.
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  And then Elon went back and forth today just dissing on Trump on everything, holding nothing back.
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  Just tearing on the Trump tariffs, you know, I mean, the tariffs are whatever,
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  you know, I kind of agree with the overall vision of Trump, you know,
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  to make America great again.
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  You know, I, I agree with that, but it's, and then you get into tactics and
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  policy and how you go about doing it.
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  There's been a few times that I've really kind of doubted the president, you know,
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  one was immediately after J6 and leading up to J6, whenever that happened,
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  I knew he was, he was a hothead in everything that was building up,
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  you know, and everything that happened.
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  That was just a, the fog of war that was happening.
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  He was probably not thinking straight in a lot of ways.
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  I don't think he did all the things that everybody made him out to be,
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  but what hurt me the most or what like kind of disappointed me the most was
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  it felt like he kind of left his.
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  Following out to dry, you know, but there's probably so much behind the scenes
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  that are more nuanced and he is stood with them, but it just at that time,
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  but then it's just overall this, it just seems like he is, he never is able to keep,
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  he's not able to keep everybody happy because I think overall he wants to ram
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  through what he wants to get done.
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  And if you don't get on board, you're, you know, you're, you can't,
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  you can't stay on the plane kind of thing.
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  You He will throw everyone out. I mean, there is such turnover.
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  And I mean, this is the same deal with, these are just massive business minds.
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  They think in a business mindset, they are thinking how to most efficiently run the ship.
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  And the same with Elon. I remember when he was back at, like when he was at
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  Tesla, you know, this is before he took on X, before he made it X.
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  And the email to his employees, you know, and just pushing them to just work them to the bone.
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  And I guess that's what business people do. They work people to the bone.
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  They want to efficient, make things so efficiently possible that they remove
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  the human person in the whole structure of it.
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  They want to automate everything to get people out so that they can make more
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  money and have a better product, a better service, you know?
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  But it seems like overall, these guys, they, maybe I had rose colored glasses
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  and thinking that they could keep it together.
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  I really did not see this coming. I really did not see this coming at all.
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  And then a lot of people just tweeting back at Elon and him just kind of yesing, yesing exactly. Ha ha.
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  You know, and when he dropped the whole Epstein thing, I mean,
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  there might be some there, there, I don't know.
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  There's pictures with Trump and Epstein, but I mean,
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  That whole thing, I mean, whenever everybody brought up about did Epstein kill
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  himself, it was all, Trump was asked that, and he just assumed,
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  yeah, he did. Yeah, he did.
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  Well, I mean, everybody wants to just, if you're good, you're good.
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  If you're not, if you weren't at all in contact with him, you don't have anything to hide.
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  People, then they're going to be screaming for blood, you know?
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  But everybody's got their skeletons.
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  Everybody's got their skeletons, you know? everybody's got their things.
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  And it's just, if you want to look at somebody else and say,
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  Oh, they got the problems. They're the issue, man, you got them as well. We all do.
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  You can try to like hide it and make everybody else think everybody else is
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  terrible and you're all good.
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  But like, so Elon, Elon saying that, bring it up the whole, you know,
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  this is people tweeting like, like right here in 1992, Trump partied with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Just going to leave this here. Elon Musk replies with the emoji,
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  the raised eyebrow, the raised eyebrow. And that's kind of where he is just heading with.
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  He's going towards, there's no real substance.
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  I wanted to believe where people were saying, giving those tweets out there
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  that, oh, they're just in two separate rooms and they're really just playing a goof on all of us.
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  I think I wanted that to be true, but I don't think that is even in the vicinity of a possibility now.
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  These guys are at each other's throats. They're going for blood.
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  And you think Pence going against Trump was bad?
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  You think anybody else, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, any other name that's out there
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  going against Trump was bad?
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  This is going to be that, like, so intensified, so on steroids.
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  I think it was just, it was the shock factor of, I can't believe Elon and Trump
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  are even getting along in the first place.
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  I think that was just like, wow, we were living in an alternate universe.
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  I think now we're coming back to a little bit of reality.
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  This is reality for us. A little dose, a little taste of reality.
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  Elon, so about that, what he said about let's terminate Elon's government subsidies.
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  Is he going to be going at SpaceX?
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  Elon fired back in light of the president's statements about cancellation of
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  my government contracts at SpaceX.
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  At SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately.
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  And then the guy said, this is a shame. This is back and forth.
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  You are both better than this.
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  Who will often take a step back for a couple of days? And then Elon said,
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  okay, or he said, good advice.
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  Okay. We won't decommission Dragon. Huh?
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  Gosh. Elon's making it seem, Elon is going to be the one that's going to have to acquiesce.
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  Trump is always wants to be friends with everybody. He wants everyone to like
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  and he's good if you like him. He's good if you say good things about him.
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  And Elon had been in more of that submissive role. Yes, Mr. President.
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  And even like him giving that massive diss today, he said, have a good day, Mr.
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  DRD. You know, he tried to even keep it respectful there, you know,
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  and Elon's got the hot head right now, but Elon's got the more, the bigger reach.
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  Elon's got the bigger reach. Trump has got the power being the president,
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  you know, but the president presidency does not last forever so gosh this is just insane.
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  He's just tweeting all day you know just i don't even i haven't
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  been seeing elon's tweets lately you know i don't i
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  don't look at really anybody that i follow it seems
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  like i stay on my for you page when i'm going through stuff and
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  i don't even touch truth that much i got an account but
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  i mean i really i post stuff on there but it's really hit or miss you know i
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  go pretty much for news which is sad with X you know it'll all I think it's
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  going to overall turn out for the better but this is just hopefully they will
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  like I said today they need to go on Rogan and do a podcast and
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  next week and just hash this out, just actually talk it.
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  I mean, that might seem like a joke coming from somebody, but I mean,
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  in all seriousness, do that.
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  You're already, it's in the public arena now.
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  It's not behind closed doors. You know, the Democrats, the left is going to just go for blood.
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  They're going to bring everything out of it. They're going to make this,
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  it's going to be the news cycle until something breaks.
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  It's going to be, that's all they are going to talk about, you know,
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  and they're going to just try to put a deeper and bigger wedge between them.
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  So it's like, go on to Rogan and talk this out.
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  You know, this might seem like, oh, this is petty. No, this is a big deal.
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  This is actually a legitimate big deal that these guys are doing this.
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  You know, this is this, it might seem like a silliness and a joke,
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  but like if, I mean, it makes for entertainment. It makes for entertainment.
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  And I mean, I'm cool with that but like the overall good
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  of the country and the good of like of the
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  the next four years working and things getting
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  done i mean policies are going to be put through it
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  just seems like there's just like i said i feel like i always have i have rose
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  rosy colored glasses that i'm wearing sometimes especially when i i think just
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  living in this world and just the unthinkable happened that trump elon and they
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  all they come together and now it's like dissolving before your very eyes.
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  You know, it's just, it's insane. But it's like, where do we go from here?
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  Overall, I think it's the only way we can do this is not to have soundbites.
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  One person say one thing, one person say another, and it'd be thrown on CNN and MSNBC and Fox news.
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  And just like, because people are going to bleed this dry. You know,
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  they're going to, they're going to suck. They're like vampires.
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  They're going to suck everything out of it possible. I guess it was getting a little bit too boring.
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  Even for Trump standards, it was getting a little bit too boring.
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  He does not allow things to be boring for some reason. He will always catch
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  you off guard, but it's like Trump didn't even start this. He did not even start this.
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  He was probably just telling Elon no.
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  I think Elon was just, his brand, his Tesla image had just gotten whacked in
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  a huge way by people coming at him.
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  And I think he wanted to solidify some probably government grants or something,
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  you know, where they use Tesla or EV vehicles for governmental purposes. I don't know.
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  And something was said no in a firm note to Elon.
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  He was not happy going out the door. They made it seem all nice. They played nice.
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  He leaves. And now Elon just let everything Hank come out everything gosh says
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  retard finder says you have to admit it this is a effing retarded this is effing
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  retarded and then it's talking about Steve Bannon on Bannon show.
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  Bannon is peak retard. Gosh. Because I think what Steve Bannon was actually
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  saying today, he was saying something about, he was really going after Elon,
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  really going after Elon and gosh, it's just vicious.
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  Overall, Elon has a pin tweet now and I replied to it, but I refused to vote
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  in it. I refused to vote in it.
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  It says, is it time to create a new political party in America that actually
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  represents the 80% in the middle. I like that attitude, but I would say no.
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  I said dissolve the parties. The parties need to be completely thrown out.
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  We do not need to have, I've said this over and over, it's the stupidest thing
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  that we have Republican and Democrat.
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  If you want to call everybody independent, even now, how about we just call
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  us America and people just Just vote on issues, vote on belief structures,
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  and just that, as opposed to having teams set up. It doesn't work this way.
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  It doesn't work this way because half the country, we're always against each other.
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  You know, nobody, and then the rational people that are in the middle are just
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  in the middle sitting there, you know, and nothing actually gets done.
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  Nothing actually, but I mean, it is the great American experiment that we have
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  that the founders set up that we actually have this thing going that it has
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  lasted this long, you know,
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  and, but really we are still like in infancy compared to other,
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  you know, world powers and.
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  Nations that have lasted a lot longer.
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  So maybe there is something to be said about it, but overall it just, it's kind of stupid.
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  I hope they, I hope they make amends. I hope they come together, but we shall see.
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  We'll end it at that. All right. Peace everyone.