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The Kenny Report | 3 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from the sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Good on your ass work and the Kenny Reports to
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  Speaker 1: price with you. Another day, another poll, this time our
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  Speaker 1: Sky News poll Pulse, also showing One Nation leading Labor
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  Speaker 1: and the Coalition. Pauline Hanson on those numbers coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Also tonight, Victoria's Shadow Attorney General James Newberry on the
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  Speaker 1: gas lighting of the Victorian public overclaims new powers will
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  Speaker 1: allow the corruption watchdog I back to chase down fifteen
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars of public funds that have disappeared. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: have my say on this mess that is Labour's new
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  Speaker 1: housing policy and get the view of National's leader Matt Canavan.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be up in a moment. And Tom Switzer a
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  Speaker 1: regular course on Chris's show, his view on We're now
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  Speaker 1: with the US around war as a run today, fires
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  Speaker 1: on bach Rain and Kuwait and the President seems bogged
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  Speaker 1: down and unable to pull off any long term peace deal.
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  Speaker 1: First though, tonight, the mess that the government seems to
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  Speaker 1: have gotten itself into over housing and the affordability for
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  Speaker 1: younger Australians, especially in most of our capital cities, wanting
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  Speaker 1: to buy a house or an apartment. Labour's Housing Minister
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  Speaker 1: is Clara O'Neill, who joined Labor the Labor Party at
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  Speaker 1: the age of sixteen. Was educated at one of Melbourne's
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  Speaker 1: most expensive girls' schools, Loretto Mandeville Hall in Tuac, and
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  Speaker 1: describes former Labor leader Simon Crean as one of her
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  Speaker 1: political heroes. Well, she didn't get herself in a verbal
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  Speaker 1: mess this morning, did she? On Channel seven Sunrise program
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  Speaker 1: when the host Natalie Barr wanted to know if the minister,
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  Speaker 1: who has an arts degree in a law degree, couldn't
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  Speaker 1: or wouldn't say whether she wanted house prices the minister
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  Speaker 1: to go up, well, go down?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want house prices to go up or down?
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  Speaker 3: I want to see sustainable growth in house products up. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we want to see four hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: increases in house prices over the last twenty years, because
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  Speaker 3: that's been key or that's been key us M.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to answer your question. I'm trying to answer
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  Speaker 2: your question.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we want to see a four hundred
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  Speaker 3: percent growth over twenty years, which is what we've seen,
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  Speaker 3: which has locked out probably millions of people around the
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  Speaker 3: country from getting the housing opportunities that they deserve. But
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  Speaker 3: I do want to see property prices grow. I want
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  Speaker 3: to see them grow sustainably for the country. Okay, although
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  Speaker 3: they're going down.
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  Speaker 1: What a train wreck, how Michaulia cash Helder straight face,
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  Speaker 1: I've got no idea that was And for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in my life, I think we actually have a
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  Speaker 1: government in camera and a housing minister that wants your
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  Speaker 1: biggest asset that you will ever own to be worth
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  Speaker 1: less this time next year than it's worth now. Let
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  Speaker 1: me repeat that, the Housing Minister in the Albanzi government
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  Speaker 1: supported I presume by the Prime Minister wants your property
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  Speaker 1: that you own or you're paying a mortgage on, to
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  Speaker 1: be worth less next year than it is now. I mean, ge,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great policy to take to an election. Can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine the Prime Minute promising all Australians who are
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  Speaker 1: either paying off a house or an apartment, our ambition
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  Speaker 1: is to make your house worth less. I mean seriously.
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  Speaker 1: A central theme of life in Australia as long as
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  Speaker 1: I've been on the planet is that you save, you
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  Speaker 1: have a deposit, you buy a home, hopefully within your
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  Speaker 1: financial ability to make mortgage payments, and at some time
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  Speaker 1: in the future, you upgrade to something bigger or in
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  Speaker 1: a better area, you make a profit. Now, how can
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  Speaker 1: we have a housing minister on national television not even
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  Speaker 1: be able to say whether she wants real estate prices
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  Speaker 1: to go up or down. And if you want to
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  Speaker 1: see what an incompetent government can do to property prices,
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  Speaker 1: I suggest you look no further than Victoria vicious land
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  Speaker 1: tax changes that saw the land tax threshold slashed from
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  Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars when you would pay land tax
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  Speaker 1: if you had a property worth more than three hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand A broke state government dropped that to fifty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: There would be no property in Vicvictoria worth under fifty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They did that in one cruel grab for cash.
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  Speaker 1: So any property worth more than fifty thousand dollars that
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  Speaker 1: is not your principal place of residence attracts land tax.
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  Speaker 1: So that's everybody then not happy with that. The Victorian
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  Speaker 1: Labor government introduced listen to this, a vacant residential land
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  Speaker 1: tax as well. On top of that land tax. Now
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  Speaker 1: if the place is vacant holiday house site for more
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  Speaker 1: than six months, and this also applies to laughably vacant
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  Speaker 1: blocks of land. You have to pay land tax. So
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  Speaker 1: be very afraid that the Victorian based National Housing Minister
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  Speaker 1: longingly looks at her home state and how to force
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  Speaker 1: down down housing prices. Coastal and near regional real estate
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  Speaker 1: prices in Victoria have already collapsed. O'Neill worse in Parliament yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: couldn't even explain that if you build a new granny
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  Speaker 1: flat on your existing block of land, whether that constitutes
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  Speaker 1: a new build and would be able to be negatively geared.
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  Speaker 4: Have a look, if someone builds a new second dwelling
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  Speaker 4: on an existing title, is the whole title now considered
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  Speaker 4: a new dwelling.
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  Speaker 3: A new dwelling is one that genuinely adds new to
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  Speaker 3: housing supply.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, a budget tax exfination states clearly a granny
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  Speaker 1: flat built adjacent to an established property is ineligible for
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  Speaker 1: negative gearing. In fact, you can't even knock down an
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  Speaker 1: existing house rebuild with a brand new one limited for
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  Speaker 1: twelve months, that is also ineligible. I mean, perhaps some
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  Speaker 1: ministers should read her own government's budget. Here she was
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  Speaker 1: repeating all of this, making housing cheaper stuff, delivering for
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  Speaker 1: more people, more people affordable housing. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: If you think everything's going perfectly in Australia right now,
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  Speaker 3: that probably wasn't the budget for you.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not what I see.
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  Speaker 3: I see a broken housing system, a budget that's grappling
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  Speaker 3: with an aging population and NDIS which isn't working as
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  Speaker 3: it was intended an additional defense need.
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  Speaker 1: A breaking housing system that in ten years has gone
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  Speaker 1: up by four hundred percent and made a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Australian's money that they have earned and they would realize
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  Speaker 1: when they sold their property. I'm going to excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: Does she not realize she's in government and has been
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  Speaker 1: for four years. It's about time O'Neil and others in
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  Speaker 1: her government stop blaming everyone else. Okay, let's go straight
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  Speaker 1: to National's leader, Matt Canavan. Matt watching the train wreck
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  Speaker 1: that is Claire O'Neil, Do you think she's got any
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  Speaker 1: understanding at all of her own housing policy?
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  Speaker 6: Or someone just needs to ask what the cavalgan's treatment
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  Speaker 6: tax treatment is on birthday cakes? I think as well.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a total and areta mess. And
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  Speaker 6: if Labour's own ministers are confused, how the hell can
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  Speaker 6: Australian investors, small businesses, farmers, startup companies themselves understand it.
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  Speaker 6: We've seen from the National accounts to day how difficult
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  Speaker 6: economic circumstances are for Australians, and much of that is
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  Speaker 6: not even before we end up with the fallout from
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  Speaker 6: the Iran conflict. The question this government has to answer
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  Speaker 6: is why, in a period of great anxiety for Australian businesses,
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  Speaker 6: massive political and economic turmoil around the world, why have
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  Speaker 6: they added so much to their confusion, to their anxiousness
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  Speaker 6: by imposing these massive new taxes that they didn't even take.
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  Speaker 7: To the trained people.
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  Speaker 6: Now, these small businesses that are struggling and just holding
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  Speaker 6: on having to spend time with accountants, with lawyers, going
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  Speaker 6: all to all through types of a mystery of burdens,
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  Speaker 6: trying to find out what this law is actually about,
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  Speaker 6: and the government can't even provide them.
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  Speaker 1: Answers for what it's about.
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  Speaker 6: What needs to happen now is the government should pull
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  Speaker 6: its legislation that it doesn't understand and cannot explain and
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  Speaker 6: go back to the drawing board. They should go to
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  Speaker 6: an election first before they're trying to any of it.
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  Speaker 6: But it's clearly not ready to pass through the nation's
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  Speaker 6: Parliament and should be pulled.
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  Speaker 1: Albaneze seems determined to ram it through. It'll go obviously
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  Speaker 1: through the Lower House by the numbers, but it'll end
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  Speaker 1: up in the Senate. What are you hearing about the
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  Speaker 1: attitudes of independent senators? We know what the Liberal National
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  Speaker 1: Party's attitude to this is, what are those independents thinking
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  Speaker 1: of it? And what do you think the Greens are
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  Speaker 1: going to do?
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  Speaker 6: Look, unfortunately for us, Steve the set it's been a
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  Speaker 6: bit of a robber stamp lately. It's basically down down
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  Speaker 6: to the Greens. The independence are irrelevant. Even if the
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  Speaker 6: government got all of the independences and non Greens crossbenches,
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  Speaker 6: they wouldn't.
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  Speaker 7: Have the numbers.
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  Speaker 6: So it really comes down to the Greens. So when
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  Speaker 6: you're pine of pinning your hopes on a radical Greens party,
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  Speaker 6: you're in a bit of a tough pint in my experience,
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  Speaker 6: because these guys have never met a tax increase that
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  Speaker 6: they haven't liked. They just there only complained as it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't go far enough. So look, I don't know I'd
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  Speaker 6: expect the Greens to roll over here. Look, hopefully were
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  Speaker 6: the one hope perhaps is that the Greens see some
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  Speaker 6: sense in a proper inquiry into these laws. The government
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  Speaker 6: is treating people with contempt by only scheduling two hearing days.
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  Speaker 6: I've already heard that as of this morning. As of
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  Speaker 6: this morning, four thousand submissions have been received. Individual submissions,
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  Speaker 6: not clickbait, not robot emails. Four thousand individual submissions have
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  Speaker 6: been received. That is massive. We're usually lucky to get
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  Speaker 6: a couple one hundred to a Senate inquiry, and that's
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  Speaker 6: just after a couple of days of them being opened.
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  Speaker 6: So clearly there's a massive, massive sentiment about these changes,
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  Speaker 6: and there should be many more than just two days hearings.
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  Speaker 6: The Senate Committee should travel around the country, go to where.
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  Speaker 1: These businesses are.
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  Speaker 6: Why would we make these businesses struggling have to come
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  Speaker 6: all the way to Canberra for these two rush days.
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  Speaker 6: There's no rush in these laws. Taxes don't even come
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  Speaker 6: into effect July next year.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we should run an ordered on those Greens and
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  Speaker 1: find out how many of them have benefited from the
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  Speaker 1: four hundred percent rise in property prices over the last
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  Speaker 1: ten years. Some late breaking news today. I know you've
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  Speaker 1: been busy in Parliament. I don't know if you're quite
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  Speaker 1: across it, and it is a little complicated, but the
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  Speaker 1: US matt has on sixty countries, including Australia, laid on
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  Speaker 1: a new twelve and a half percent import tariff as
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  Speaker 1: punishment for importing goods from nations using forced labor. This
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  Speaker 1: will replace those ten percent tariffs that were ruled unlawful
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  Speaker 1: by the US Supreme Court. I checked with my mate
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  Speaker 1: Ross Greenwood. So this is a new lot of tariffs.
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  Speaker 1: What's that going to do to people that you support greatly,
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  Speaker 1: particularly those people exporting things like beef to the US.
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  Speaker 6: Look, it's another impost and barrier to them. It's particularly
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  Speaker 6: going to hurt industries like wine. I spent a lot
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  Speaker 6: of time with the wine industry in Farah recently, and
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  Speaker 6: some of the wine producers there are quite exposed to
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  Speaker 6: the US market. So these tariffs have been quite damaging.
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  Speaker 6: Thankfully for industries like beef, our product is in such
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  Speaker 6: high demand and of such high quality that they can
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  Speaker 6: withstand these sort of extent of tariffs.
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  Speaker 1: But look, it is early.
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  Speaker 6: I've only just I have flicked through the report this
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  Speaker 6: s afternoon. It seems to me a bit of a
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  Speaker 6: fig leaf of a justification for a tariff regievement struck
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  Speaker 6: down by the US Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 7: The report indicates.
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  Speaker 6: That the US administration consulted with the Australian government, so
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  Speaker 6: I'll be asking on Friday. It's sent an Estimates some
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  Speaker 6: questions about that consultation. But I would hope that the
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  Speaker 6: Australian government fights this and forcefully pushes back on a
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  Speaker 6: Trump administration that is not certainly not acting within the
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  Speaker 6: spirit of the free trade agreement we signed with the
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  Speaker 6: United States. They've been a great ally of ours, they're
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  Speaker 6: a great friend, but we've honored that agreement. To me,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like we're getting reciprocal conduct.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of the US and agreements, UCAS, we're seeing now
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  Speaker 1: tearing itself apart over nuclear submarines. They've even wheeled out
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  Speaker 1: at one point Peter Garrett, who used to run the
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  Speaker 1: Nuclear Disarmament Party. They seem to some on the back bench,
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  Speaker 1: some within the government are even trying to suggest that
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  Speaker 1: this is a bad deal for US, and you know
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  Speaker 1: we're now only going to get three secondhand submarines. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a defense this morning Incentive Estimates saying, well, they're
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  Speaker 1: still outstanding pieces of equipment. What do you make of
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  Speaker 1: all of this.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I just don't think the government has really been
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  Speaker 6: committed to this from the get go. They've had to
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  Speaker 6: pay lip service to the Orchis agreement because I think
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  Speaker 6: they felt politically they could do nothing else. But it's
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  Speaker 6: always been the case. There's been lots of loud critics
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  Speaker 6: from within the labor movement of this deal, and that's
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  Speaker 6: why I do think a lot of people question whether
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  Speaker 6: the labor government is the best position for our country
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  Speaker 6: to be difficult geopolitical circumstances. We've seen a charade in
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  Speaker 6: recent weeks of the government seeking to prop up their
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  Speaker 6: defense spending figures with all kinds of spending that have
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  Speaker 6: nothing related to our defense capabilities, like payments to veterans,
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  Speaker 6: pensions to veterans and the like. That just doesn't stack
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  Speaker 6: up and meet the pub test. And we need to
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  Speaker 6: need to think much more further than just August. It's
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  Speaker 6: not just about what military equipment we buy. It's about
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  Speaker 6: our industrial base. It's about ability to feed ourselves, to
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  Speaker 6: fuel ourselves. That's all coming to stark relief over the
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  Speaker 6: past year, and this government is not doing enough to
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  Speaker 6: rebuild our industry. We need to scrap net zero and
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  Speaker 6: focus on our own country again.
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  Speaker 1: Great to catch up Mat Canavan. Thank you very much,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Canavan there in Canberra. Look. I mentioned on the
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  Speaker 1: show yesterday the gas lighting of Victorian voters by the
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  Speaker 1: Premiere just cinder Allen around corruption on these big build
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  Speaker 1: projects alleged to be worth as much as fifteen billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars in taxpayers money just fritted away. Here was the
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  Speaker 1: Premier trying to colm people in the lead up to
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  Speaker 1: the November election. This was her yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: These changes are the most far reaching since IBACK was
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  Speaker 4: first established in twenty and twelve. It will see IBACK
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  Speaker 4: as a fit for purpose agency as part of an
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  Speaker 4: integrity system here in Victoria that further insures a corruption
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  Speaker 4: has no place in this state.
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  Speaker 1: Im in our shadow Attorney General James Newbury, She's kidding, surely,
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  Speaker 1: isn't she trying to tell us that she's going to
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  Speaker 1: get some stacked committee, put it together and tell it
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  Speaker 1: to report back in a year's time. What's that about.
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you what it's about.
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  Speaker 8: It's about gas lighting Victorians to try and win an election.
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  Speaker 8: And we all saw, I know Australians all saw the
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  Speaker 8: fib that the former Premier told about the comm games
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  Speaker 8: before the last election.
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  Speaker 7: You know those games we never had.
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  Speaker 8: Just Cindra Allen's doing the same when it comes to
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  Speaker 8: cleaning up corruption, promising one thing before the election.
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  Speaker 7: We know if she was ever.
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  Speaker 8: Elected, she'd continue to cover up the worst corruption probably
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  Speaker 8: this country's ever seen. You can't believe her, and you're right,
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  Speaker 8: she's kicking it into the long grass, saying we might
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  Speaker 8: do something in two years. Well, the coalition will clean
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  Speaker 8: up corruption in Victoria if we're elected.
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  Speaker 7: And that's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: The Victorian Police Task Force, which is investigating this corruption,
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  Speaker 1: they made an arrest this morning of notorious Victorian figure
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  Speaker 1: Mick Gatto and his wife at their home. They took
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  Speaker 1: them into custody. They've since been released and Gaddo's returned home.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I mean, and clearly
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. I don't believe there's any charges that
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  Speaker 1: have been laid yet, and Gaddo insists that he's done
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Look, I don't want to reflect on the specifics of
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  Speaker 8: the case, but I can tell you the first thing
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  Speaker 8: I started getting a lot of text messages after the arrest,
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  Speaker 8: and all they said to me was, oh, well, how
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  Speaker 8: long is he going to get till he's out on bail?
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  Speaker 8: Because it's Victoria. I mean, that's the state we're in here.
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  Speaker 8: When someone is arrested, we're counting down the minutes before
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  Speaker 8: they're back at home. I mean, it just goes to
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  Speaker 8: the question you asked me earlier. We have very very
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  Speaker 8: serious problems in this state and just center's gas lighting Victorians.
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  Speaker 8: She's trying to con Victorians. She's not going to clean
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  Speaker 8: it up.
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  Speaker 1: James, let's talking about trickery. What about these changes to
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  Speaker 1: political funding? Here was the Premier again today trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell us that this was a great policy.
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  Speaker 4: I have been determined to bring to the parliament legislation
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  Speaker 4: that deals with the High Court decision and restores integrity
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  Speaker 4: and transparency to Victoria's political donation system. Anyone who wants
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  Speaker 4: to challenge that for them purposes of undermining democracy and
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  Speaker 4: elections in this state, that's a question for them to answer.
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  Speaker 4: Victorians deserve to know who's donating.
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  Speaker 1: What a transparency I mean, seriously, labor takes all of
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  Speaker 1: its funding from big unions. Is this policy that is
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  Speaker 1: going to be kicked down the road as well? Is
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  Speaker 1: that going to fix up any of that issues with
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  Speaker 1: funding to labor from the unions.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I reckon, people need to be really worried about
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  Speaker 8: what just Center Allan's proposing with these donation laws.
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  Speaker 7: You know, what she's trying to do rig the system.
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  Speaker 8: Now, what these laws do is ban all big money
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  Speaker 8: except from the unions. I mean, could you get a
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  Speaker 8: more cooked set of laws than what just Center Allen's proposing.
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  Speaker 8: And we know why this government is end of days.
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  Speaker 8: You know, the premium is outdoor knocking in her seat
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  Speaker 8: because the tidal wave is about to wash her out
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  Speaker 8: and on the way out, she's trying to rig the
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  Speaker 8: system by banning all money except from the unions. It
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  Speaker 8: is seriously wrong. It's actually damaging for our democracy. And
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  Speaker 8: as I read reports this afternoon, it's already being challenged.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, how's that the bill hasn't passed the parliament
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  Speaker 8: and people are already saying they're challenging it. Well, I
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  Speaker 8: understand why. In my view the laws are unconstitutional. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: how's this government what their first set of laws get
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  Speaker 8: knocked out for being unconstitutional and the second set they propose,
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  Speaker 8: which are rigged by the way, are being challenged before
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: they've gone through the Parliament. It just says everything about
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: the Labor Party. They are dodgy and these laws are seriously,
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: seriously trying to rig the system.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: James, I reckon, if you go back to the last election,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Victorians probably shrug their shoulders
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, that's the way the Labor Party
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: runs things. I think in the subsequent period since that election,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: when Andrew's won again, that the public are really now
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: woken up to what's happening in their state. They've woken
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: up to the corruption, They've woken up to the sneakiness,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: They've woken up to the fact that this premiere that's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: running the state in Victoria, she was in charge of
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: all of these things that are wasting money, like the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: big build, like the suburban railroad, like those projects that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: are all corrupt. People have now had enough of it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Do you agree totally?
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: And you know what, everyone has a chance in November
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: to do something about it. And you're right, Daniel Andrews
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: was a really good liar. But I think Victorians know
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: just Cindra Allen is simply a liar, and they know
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: she is. So Victorians have a really really simple chance,
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: do they want to clean up the state.
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: Do they want to stop the corruption?
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: Do they want to stop the home invasions, the carjackings,
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: the fire bombings, the crime on our streets that are rampant. Well,
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: you can vote Liberal and National and we'll clean up
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: the state.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Thank you very much, James. I'll talk
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to you soon, James Newberry there now, after the break,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I want to cross live to Esther Krakhu in the UK.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: There was protests that erupted following that horrific murder of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a man by the name of Henry now Nowak, with
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: accusations of two tier policing in that country. Esther will
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: join us after the break. Let's catch up with Chris
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Kenny regular Tom Switzer, who, in an excellent column in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Australian last weekend prosecuted the argument that our ABC, yours
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of my ABC, we pay for it the taxpayers, has
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: been captured by the left. I mean, Tom, very hard
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to argue and can you believe it? You wrote that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: before the ABC decided it was a good idea to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: hire former Australian of the Year Grace Tame. Explain that
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to me, Well, it's just true to form.
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: I mean for many years, you and I, among others,
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: have argued that a left liberal bias or group think
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: has clouded ABC datorial judgment. And this fits the pattern.
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: But it's not just Graham Grace Tam. It's their obsession
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: with Malcolm Turnbull. He's on there almost every second day bagging.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: The Liberal Party.
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: They were never for that luxury to a conservative former
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: Liberal leader. But also energy policy, mass immigration, a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: of cultural issues, the Voice referendum in twenty twenty three,
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: on virtually every public policy and political controversy. You can
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: bet the ABC lean's left now they're defenders, would say
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: so white if News Corp that is Sky News and
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: The Australian can lean right. If you're like, why can't
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: we at the ABC lean left? But remember they're subsidized
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: by tax payers and the legislative quid pro quo for
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: public funding is a commitment to impartiality.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Well I've got they've actually got a legislated desire that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that actually has to happen. I mean it's not a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: matter of you know, can we be balanced, it's actually
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in there charter that they need to be balanced, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: clearly they're not. I mean, what does Kim Williams and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Hugh Marx think when they wake up and Grace Tame
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: who stood up before you know, thousands of protesters in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Sydney talking about globalizing the INTERPARTA, I mean, does no
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: one run the joint well.
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: I think the problem is that they're creatures are the
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: same culture. I think that Williams, when he became the chair,
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: was genuine and trying to bring about some degree of
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: intellectual diversity. But when he says that there's no evidence
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: that the ABC staffers primarily vote in a left direction,
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: that is for the Labor Party or the Grands or
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: the Teals, he's either denial, is either in denial or
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: he is just lying. Because the broad cross section of
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: ABC journalists, certainly in Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne Doodlean left
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: some very left. It's probably true that in the regional
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: areas it's probably hard to pigeonhole ABC journalist. There may
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: well be some National Party voters, but I doubt very
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: much that any ABC journalist would vote for one nation.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about something more serious. Matt Canavan and I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: talked about what looks like a real split inside Labor
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: around Todd the Orcus submarine deal. I mean, that's a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: major worry for Prime Minister Albineasy, isn't it? It is indeed,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and I think that what this shows is as a
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: splinter group within the Labor Party who don't support Aucust.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: Now there is a broad consensus in Canberra. I think
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: that the main geopolitical threat to American primacy and stability
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: and peace in our region is the People's Republic of China.
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: It's not Russia, it's not Iran, It's China. My concern
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: with this splinter group is that I'm not sure that
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: they even recognize that reality.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Now, there may be.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: Good reasons to criticize August. It seems to be unaffordable
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: and probably won't. The deadlines won't be reached on time,
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: a bit like net zero. It's a grand vision that's
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: not plausible, that's possible. But what's the alternative to Augus?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: What is peace?
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: To Garrett and this ginger group in the Labor Party,
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: what do they see is the best way of containing
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: and deterring a rise in China?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Well that's a very very good point. I mean, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Peter Garrett, imagine that dragging Peter Garrett back out to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: prosecute the case. I mean, that's really going to put
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a bomb under all this. And we had heard ed
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Husick on Sky yesterday. I mean he's also one that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: questioning it. I mean you can go back, can't you,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to the old days of the Nuclear Disarmament Party, Tom,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: which Garrett used to run. There's an in built fear
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: among some in labor that we might be headed down
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the nuclear road.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: I think that's a good point, But I also think
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: people are Peter Garrett are intellectually dishonest because he was
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: in the Julia Gillard government in twenty eleven when Camber
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: had enhanced military cooperation with the Americans, remember the rotational
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: Marines through Darwin. The fact of the matter is Cambra
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: and Washington are joining c relationships like many other countries
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: in our region, because we're worried about China. Yes, it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: important for our trade and our prosperity, but to the
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: extent that China keeps rising the way it is, it
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: is going to be a major threat to our region
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: and we need the appropriate policies in place to deter
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: that rising threat, otherwise we'll face a war.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely good on your Tom, thank you for that now
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: coming up. Pauline Hanson joins me as One Nation becomes
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the most popular political party in the country according to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the latest Sky News poll. And I'll find out if
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Pauline's fit to b PM. Welcome back to sleep Price
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: with you. I'll get to our panel shortly. But the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: rising popularity for One Nation and its leader Pauline Hanson, well,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it's dominated the sitting week in Canberra. We took to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: One Nation's most high profile recruit, Barnaby Joyce on this
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: program on The Kenny Show last night, and I asked
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: him to respond to comments that were made on Sky
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: News yesterday by veteran political commentator Paul Kelly. Here is
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what Kelly told my colleague Laura Jays yesterday.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Pauline Hanson is not fit to be Prime Minister of Australia.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: She's not equipped to do the job. She can't do
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: the job. Now I understand her the job coming from
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: people she couldn't be worse than Albow.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm here to tell you she could be a lot.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Worse than Albo. She could be a lot worse than Albow.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: And at some point, at some point, Austrodian common sense
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: and resilience and capacity to assess politics has got to
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: come into play with some sensible assessments of the limitations
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: of Pauline Hanson.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Now Barnaby's been in Parliament about as long as Pauline Hanson,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure has had thousands of words written about
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: him by Kelly was diplomatic in his response, lauding the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Australian's columnist and his longevity. Now I wonder if Barnaby
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: feels the same way. After Kelly wrote in The Australian Today,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm quoting here, Pauline Hanson would threaten every aspect
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of this country, from its prosperity to its cohesion, leading
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a party that has built nothing and shows no capacity
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to exercise executive power. He finished his column by urging
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: opinion making organs whatever that means, to investigate Pauline's dubious
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: his words not mine ties with Gina Reinhart typical establishment paranoia,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I would say, and an attitude like that is exactly
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: what's driving people into the arms of one nation. Pauline
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Hanson joins me from camera. Good to see you. Do
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you care what people like Kelly write about you?
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: Not all?
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: I tell you what it's really getting to him, isn't it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: This elitist attitude is exactly right, you know, says I
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: don't have the ability. When I first got in Steve
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: in nineteen ninety six and I got the support, especially
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: when I led the party in after my maiden speech
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: and all this happened. You know, I actually John Howard
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: had to listen to to my policies and things because
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: he knew that he was losing support and turned back
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: the boats that actually came from me. So even this
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: time around, and I haven't been in for thirty years,
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: I was out of Parliament for eighteen years. So it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: happened since I've come back in, I've really built the
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: party from nothing, all right. So I've got members now
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: elected across the country and the state who are doing
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: a fantastic job representing the Australian people. So say I
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: don't have the ability, Well, here we have a Prime
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: Minister who always says he grew up in a house
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: and commission house. What is the difference that I've come
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: out a small business of running my own fish and
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: chip shop. That's what's so great about this country that
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: anyone can aspire to the position of being Prime Minister
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: of this nation. And don't forget Ben Chiffley who was
• 28:44
  Speaker 11: in the forties our Prime minister, who was a train driver.
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: So it just tells me I think Paul Kelly is
• 28:51
  Speaker 11: card carrying a Liberal Party member and as will ever
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: and a day always attack me or one nation because
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: he doesn't like it's happening at the moment.
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: But they've got to be.
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: Responsible for the way the country is in a mess
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: and people are screaming out for change.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You got them rattled, haven't you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: It appears that way, but it's not me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: I've given the people an alternative to vote for other
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: than the two major political parties. They are the ones
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: that have put this country in the situation we are now,
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: not Pauling Hansen.
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: They need to look in the mirror.
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: Mass migrations created housing shortage, people living destitute, people who
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: can't afford to put a roof over there. People seven
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: million straands can only afford one meal a day in
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: a country as prosperous as what we used to be.
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: You can see the division that's happened under this government.
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: They also brought in a divisive voice to Parliament that
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: people rejected that climate change. How well has that been
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: going for US escalating power prices, fifty thousand small businesses
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: in over fourteen hundred industries, and manufacturing gone one hundred
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: and forty seven thousand million. There's left the country because
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: there's no incentivizing anyone to invest in Australia anymore.
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: I want change.
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: I've put my policies out there, and my party and
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: my team around me, i'd say, have been driving their agenda.
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: Why do you think they're picking up a lot of
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: my policies. So, Paul Kelly, if you don't think I've
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: got answers, you're a fool.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Well I think I think he really does represent the elites.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I mean you and I caught up in that seat
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in the pan in Victoria. I mean that is a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: wealthy part of the state of Victoria. I know for
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: a fact there are women and children victims of domestic violence,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Pauline sleeping in their cars in car parks, next to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: caravan parks, using the facilities in caravan parks. That's twenty
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: twenty six in Australia.
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: Deve, you know, I just did a four day two
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: throughout Queen's Lane. I did full speaking engagements one day.
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: I started at eight o'clock in the morning, seven o'clock
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: in the morning actually, and by the time I climb
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: to bed eleven o'clock that night, talking to ordinary Australians
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: out there from all different cultural backgrounds, all different professions,
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: you know, from the youth to the aged Australians and farmers,
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: you name it, small business, everyone like that. And you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: I was anxious to get home, but I got a
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: call through my office saying, Pauline, can you stop and
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: see this woman.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: She's living in a caravan and she's destitute now.
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: She's been told because she's behind in rent because she
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: had to pay for a husband's funeral. She's destitute now
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: that she's going to be thrown out of her caravan,
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: she doesn't know where to go, who to turn to.
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: She's been to the departments. So still two hours from
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: home and a four hour drive.
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: I called in to see her and it just disgusted
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: me to see the way this woman is living, the
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: conditions in this caravan, no caravan parkner thing, paying three
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: hundred and.
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: Sixty dollars a week. How these people have been ripped.
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: Off, how they've been treated, and there's nowhere to go.
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: I understand the situation, Steve, and a lot of these
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: elitists in your own little back you know, your little
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: bubbles and all the rest of it, you're protected. They
• 32:16
  Speaker 11: haven't got a clue what is happening out there.
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: And if I can make an.
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: Iota of difference to these people to give them hope,
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: that's why they're looking for hope. Someone who really cares
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: about this country, who's patriotic, loves the Australian flag, who
• 32:30
  Speaker 11: wants to see our farming secutives survive and the industry
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: is manufacturing, and to give hope for their children to
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: one day own their own home. Well, I'm going to
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: keep pushing forward and hopefully I can turn around the
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: mindset of some of these politicians in here who have
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: no idea.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Let's hope you can. I mean, just briefly, another pole
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: out today the sky News Pulse poll. It's got Labor
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: at twenty nine. It's also got you in front of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Labour at twenty nine up for Labor's have fallen three
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: down on twenty six. But what was really interesting in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that poll forty four percent of Coalition voters opened to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: you teaming up with government. But what I really wanted
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to show you was the Pulse poll has working class
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Australians surging into support for you. Now that doesn't surprise you,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: but it's going to send a shiver through the Labor Party.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: And so it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: Should steve you know, the Labor Party have to take
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: responsibility for the mass migration with had come into the country.
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: So this has just made.
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: People homeless, poor, you know, And it doesn't matter we're
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: ago in the country now. Just the congestion on our roads.
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: You know, people are having to be away from home
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: a lot longer just to travel to their jobs. All
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: this is and the escalating power prices. As I said before,
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: this all adds to the cost living. The poverty that's happening.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: It's disgraceful. And now this done to understand. You know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: these rusted on and down at Nepeon.
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: When I went there, this ninety six year old fellow
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: came up to me and he said, you know what,
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: I've been a Labor voter all my life.
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: He said, no more.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: He said, I'm voting one nation and that is common
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: to me now. So it's just not the coalition, But
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: these Labor voters are looking for change and they're not
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: the Labor Party hasn't been loyal to them, they haven't
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: supported them. They've made their life harder that you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: the working conditions and everything. It's harder for them. Their
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: lifestyles are owning their own home and the lies.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: They've fed up, the lies.
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: You keep telling that you're going to do this and
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: it doesn't happen. So these politicians are out there protecting
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: their own positions, their own jobs, and they're not delivering
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: for the people. Our job is to ensure that we
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: give people out there a quality of life, a standard
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: of living, and to look after their best interests.
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: Our governments have failed.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: The people to catch up. Thank you very much for
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: joining us.
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: Thanks Dave.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the UK now, and UK student
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Harry Henry Novak repeatedly apparently told police officer and this
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: is disturbing Vision that quote I can't breathe while he
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: was handcuffed and dying after being stabbed. Now, as I said,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this is pretty distressing content. Take a look Hub put
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the hand in the cuff, mate, dreadful stuff. Joining me
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: live is rather a broadcaster and Kenny regular, mister Krakhu.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: The Vision talks for itself stabbed and then handcuffed by police.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, this must be sending shockwaves through the UK.
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: It is, I mean, people are calling it Britain's George
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: Floyd movement, except in reverse. Because Henry Norvak happened to
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: be a white boy who was walking home after a
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: night out, who was stabbed by a man who then
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: called the police and said that he had been racially attacked.
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: So the police swarmed in and decided that this person
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: who lay bleeding, who was saying that he can't breathe
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: and he had been stabbed, was actually the real threat.
• 36:16
  Speaker 12: And you know, in the audio from the video that
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: we've just watched part of it, the police officer, one
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: of the police officers actually sarcastically dismisses him and when
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: he says I've been stabbed, the police officers i says,
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: I don't think so, mate, which just shows the degree
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: of concern that they actually had for this man potentially
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: being stabbed to death. Now, I just want to contextualize
• 36:39
  Speaker 12: it because Hampshire Constabulary, which is you know, the constabulary
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: responsible for these police officers that were at the scene,
• 36:44
  Speaker 12: spent almost a million pounds on race and equality training.
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: In the aftermath of George Floyd and simone kind of
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: internal issues that they had with police officers and their
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: language and there and how they behaved. And this is
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: what we're seeing for for that money that that was
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: spent on all that training, for someone to be lying
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: on the ground, humiliated, handcuffed while he was bleeding out
• 37:07
  Speaker 12: to death. It doesn't look like, you know, the million
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: pounds in training went very far, because these police officers
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: clearly had no regard for this person's life. And it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: the repeated institutional failure that we're seeing of our public
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: institutions more paralyzed by the idea of being accused of
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: racism than actually valuing people's lives. And I think the
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: most egregious examples is obviously the Grooming Gang's scandal because
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: of the racial element, because there were mainly white working
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: class girls being abused by mainly Pakistani origin men, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: police across the country were so scared of being accused
• 37:38
  Speaker 12: of racism that they just let these girls be abused.
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: And unfortunately, I feel like this has similar undercurrents of
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: that they showed no regard for his health or his
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: or his care, and it's just sickening to watch.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Just briefly as to the riots that followed, that shouldn't
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: surprise anybody. People are pretty angry.
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, and I think they're more angry with the likes
• 37:59
  Speaker 12: of Kistarmer and Shabanna mcmoved, the Home Secretary. I mean,
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: I mean, I'm surprised that Kis Starmer hasn't come out
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: with a speech calling them far right thugs, which he
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: did in the wake of the Southport killings. If you
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: remember those three young girls that were brutally stabbed to
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: death at a Taylor Swift themed dance class in Southport
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: and the riots that followed, Kis Starmer decided to call
• 38:20
  Speaker 12: the anger of the locals and branded as far right thuggery,
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: which went down as well as the lead balloon. But
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: it's mainly people in Parliament in government that made such
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: a row over George Floyd, who wasn't even British, who
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: wasn't even on British soil, who had nothing to do
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: with the British policing system. And yet you had Angela
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: Reina and Kis Starmer going down on one knee doing
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: this whole song and dance and yet having very little
• 38:44
  Speaker 12: care it seemed for British people and British problems and
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: in this case a British Man dying at the hands
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: of a careless, negligent British police and that's where the
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: anger comes from. Why can't you show the same theater
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: for your own people dying as opposed to someone else
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: dying in another country, in a police force and in
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: the police system that has nothing to do with the.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: UK, Well said Esther, Thank you very much. I'll catch
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: up with you shortly. Let's bring in our Wednesday Night
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Well Christmas Wednesday Night panel Scott and his host Anika
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to Georgio and Herald Sun columnist and broadcaster Justin Smith.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to you both. Look, I think it's taken a year,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Danika since that thumping Labor election victory in May last year,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: but right down today's date, down in your diary because
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the hubris of the Prime Minister, it's finally been seen publicly.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this performance question time today. We
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: have team who Abbot over here.
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: And those in the Liberal one National coalition of the
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: three parties speak about speak about battler's from time to time,
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: but give a batler a wage increase and they hate it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It's got his feathers up, Danika.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Huborus is a wonderful thing, isn't it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: You know, he was elected to this government with a
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: record number of seats thinking oh look, I can do
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: absolutely whatever I want. I can run this country however
• 40:08
  Speaker 14: I may please. And it has been an absolute disaster
• 40:11
  Speaker 14: for him. So yeah, today he's gotten a bit of
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: a reality check. But it was a long time coming.
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: I mean, all he has to do is look at
• 40:16
  Speaker 14: the latest polling a couple of days ago. One Nation
• 40:19
  Speaker 14: now the most popular party in this country, ahead of Labor.
• 40:23
  Speaker 14: He's losing ground as preferred Prime minister. And let's be honest,
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: his CV has been an absolute disaster.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Ossie's a fed up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 14: They've just put out this terrible budget that's having an
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: impact on everybody that they were hopefully that we're desperate
• 40:35
  Speaker 14: to please. This intergenerational equity nonsense. Our bills haven't gone
• 40:39
  Speaker 14: down by two hundred and seventy five dollars, Rents have
• 40:42
  Speaker 14: gone up.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It's hard to run a business out there. Small businesses
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: are crying out for help. The list goes on. You
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: can't get a house.
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: Migrants have been welcomed in with opened arms, and if
• 40:52
  Speaker 14: you look at the budget papers. The migration numbers won't
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: come down for another two years. So he's standing there going, gee,
• 40:58
  Speaker 14: we might have a bit of a problem here. Yeah, well,
• 41:00
  Speaker 14: Anthony Alberesi, it's a problem of your own making. So
• 41:03
  Speaker 14: here Brews is a wonderful thing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 14: Mark this down in your diary, everybody. This could be
• 41:08
  Speaker 14: the day of reckoning for Labor.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Well, justin I think he's feeling pretty comfortable in our note.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: And the One Nation Party in Pauline must be existing
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in Anthony Albanese's head, because you note that little jibe
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: there where he said the Liberal one National Party. That's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the other thing you can write down in your diary
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: if you like, courtesy of me. You're going to hear
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: that over and over and over again. Does that not
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: show that Labor and the PM do have concerns about
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the rising popularity of Pauline hands.
• 41:41
  Speaker 15: Oh, they certainly do, and they absolutely should have, because
• 41:46
  Speaker 15: they watched the Liberal Party in the National Party get
• 41:49
  Speaker 15: absolutely belted at the last election. And if they weren't
• 41:53
  Speaker 15: looking at that and saying, gee, we might just be
• 41:57
  Speaker 15: next here, we might be next in line forgetting a
• 42:00
  Speaker 15: if they weren't doing that then they're in a lot
• 42:03
  Speaker 15: of trouble because I think it's not just about one
• 42:06
  Speaker 15: nation either. It's about the rise of the independence as well.
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: People are really they're getting a bit tired of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: old system and some of those jibes the PM was making.
• 42:16
  Speaker 15: We see that on the other side of the house.
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: I mean it plays well to the crew behind him,
• 42:22
  Speaker 15: but but what I mean it doesn't get through to
• 42:27
  Speaker 15: anybody else. You're only playing to the faithful. I'll tell
• 42:30
  Speaker 15: you something that has come up in the last couple
• 42:32
  Speaker 15: of weeks, although it's been going on for decades, is
• 42:34
  Speaker 15: the travel rout scandal that's happening on both sides of Parliament.
• 42:38
  Speaker 15: People look at that and they say, hang on a sec.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: They're right into this, right up to their neck here.
• 42:44
  Speaker 15: This is why people are getting a little bit tired
• 42:46
  Speaker 15: of those major parties because in a lot of ways
• 42:51
  Speaker 15: it's a little bit of a protection racket. So you know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 15: they want to start, you know, having a really good
• 42:56
  Speaker 15: hard look at how they're going to you know, just
• 42:59
  Speaker 15: win peace, pull back and not with garbage.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: E that Jnika. Let's talk about the ABC. If there
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: is a more tone deaf organization in the country. I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: don't know what it would be. They've gone out and
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: hired a former Australian the year Grace Tame to co
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: present some podcast on the ABC. And this comes, of
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: course after her performance on the steps of the town
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Hall in Sydney talking about globalizing the INTERFATA. I mean,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: who in their right mind would hire Grace Tame on
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the ABC knowing unless that's what they want that the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: world's going to come crashing down at their door for
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: doing it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 14: Well, Steve, the question has to be asked, what on
• 43:39
  Speaker 14: earth is the point of the ABC anymore? Is this
• 43:41
  Speaker 14: where dying careers go, Oh, you know your career is
• 43:43
  Speaker 14: not doing well, don't worry, you get a gig at
• 43:45
  Speaker 14: the ABC.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what you say, does it?
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Perhaps?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Does it really represent our values?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: No?
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: Is it in our code of ethics? Probably not, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: doesn't matter. Welcome Grace Tame. God To's point out the
• 43:55
  Speaker 14: fact as well, and this hasn't been mentioned. Who on
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: earth approved the name of that podcast Artistic af as
• 44:01
  Speaker 14: in as F What sort of a name is that
• 44:05
  Speaker 14: for a company that's meant to be representing this country.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I just find that disgraceful. But no, look You're right
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: about Grace Tame.
• 44:11
  Speaker 14: This is a woman who was chanting from Gadigul to
• 44:13
  Speaker 14: Gaza only a couple of weeks ago. She also was
• 44:16
  Speaker 14: completely a wol during the rape of Israeli women. Yet
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: she seems to pride herself on being this women's advocate,
• 44:24
  Speaker 14: and she also said it was all propaganda.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Then she blamed the media for her own demise.
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: It was her own fault, but she had a crack
• 44:32
  Speaker 14: at the media for it, and somehow she ends up
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: at the ABC. But I guess we shouldn't really be surprised, Steve,
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: should we because she fits in with the ABC, that
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: this is the type of person that the ABC would
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: employ to go along with the rest of their hosts,
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: who are equally as biased when it comes to topics.
• 44:48
  Speaker 14: We've seen terrible anti Israel bias we've got across the
• 44:51
  Speaker 14: ABC since October seventh.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Isn't the blood sitting next to me and talking to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you also working at the.
• 45:00
  Speaker 15: A v C. Yeah, don't you justin Yeah, I did
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: some work for the ABS. I would say this though. Look,
• 45:07
  Speaker 15: I found what Grace, what Grace Tam said I thought
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: was appalling, absolutely appalling, and I couldn't I couldn't disagree
• 45:17
  Speaker 15: with it more. But also, are we are we all
• 45:20
  Speaker 15: about canceling people here? I mean, what does she just
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: never we never hear from people again when they say that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: We have had people say, We've had people say appalling things.
• 45:29
  Speaker 15: I'm not I'm not making any any you know, should
• 45:33
  Speaker 15: she be on there? But to me, it depends on
• 45:36
  Speaker 15: what the show is?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: No?
• 45:37
  Speaker 15: Yes, no, hang on, I'm not I'm not dancing.
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: The ortune of yes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: No.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I think should she be on the av It's.
• 45:43
  Speaker 15: Going to depend, But I'm not. I'm just saying, what
• 45:46
  Speaker 15: are we just about canceling people here?
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: It depends on what the show is.
• 45:50
  Speaker 15: And look, I've got no idea about what that that
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: program is. Maybe she's a specialist in that area. Maybe
• 45:55
  Speaker 15: she would be terrific on that show. That doesn't mean
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: I agree with the things that she had said. I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: do you is that what we do?
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 46:04
  Speaker 15: Do we just cancel everybody that has ever said.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Anything judgment about whether someone should be in a media
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: job after what they said following the massacre in BONDI.
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: Because we're paying for it's not hard justin we're also
• 46:18
  Speaker 14: paying for her right. We are paying for the public broadcast.
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: We're paying for her to host this podcast. So does
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: she represent every day Australians.
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: Yeah, look, and I've got no I've got absolutely don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 15: get me wrong on this. I've got absolutely no problem
• 46:31
  Speaker 15: at all with the two of you sitting here belding it.
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: It just you know, well you're criticizing it, okay, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 15: I'm criticizing her for what she said as well. But
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: I mean that's not do we just like I said,
• 46:42
  Speaker 15: do we just cancel everybody that has said anything reprehensible?
• 46:47
  Speaker 15: Or do we have a bit of an open debate here?
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: I think this just comes back to I'm sorry, but
• 46:52
  Speaker 15: this just comes back to.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: The ticking community in the Australia feel about having that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: woman on their ABC.
• 47:00
  Speaker 15: But yes, do we go back now to a kind
• 47:04
  Speaker 15: of this sort of we just go after enemies, suck
• 47:09
  Speaker 15: up to people that aren't criticizing us.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: You know, all the appropriateness is what we're talking about. Yeah,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that's fine and go for it. I talked to Pauline today.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You might have seen a bit of that interview there.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: She's obviously got the elite Pollyes in camera and the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: media support the cheer squad all worried. Here was Jim
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Chalmers on our ABC talking about Pauline's links with Gina Reinhart.
• 47:34
  Speaker 13: They always vote the way that Gina Reinhart tells them
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: to and not the way that working Australians need them
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: to in this parliament.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: What's he worried about Gena reinhartful, that's.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: A wonderful question. But what about the labor donors as well?
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: I mean, we've had successful business people like Anthony Pratt
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: donate to Labor and no one seems to have battered
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: an eyelid. Gina Reinhart is a woman who was a
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: successful person in her own right. She pays her own taxes,
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: She's involved in a number of philanthropic efforts, So why
• 48:05
  Speaker 14: is Labor going after her?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And let's be honest.
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: One Nation and Pauline Hanson have been very transparent and
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: open about the fact that, for example, they're playing.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: That that private jet was given to them by by
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Jda Reinhart.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: We need to ask Jim Chalmers what about the CFME
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: EU tipping money into the Labor Party? I mean, seriously,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: if we're going to have a proper debate in this
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: country about the funding of political parties, maybe we could
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: start with the money that the unions tip into the party.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Thank you very much, Janika, thank you
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: very much to Justin. I think that debate about Grace
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: tame in the ABC, I mean the chairman and the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: managing director, they really need to step in and if
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: they could let her keep doing the show, just explain
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to us why they made the decision to hire her.