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Nashville Covenant School Shooting Update, Are Women More Depressed Than Men? | HBR News 406 · Honey Badger Radio

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  This is HBr News number four oh six, Nashville Convenants school shooting update,
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  Are women more Depressed than Men? Where we discussed the news of the week
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  and give it the Badger treatment. Hello, everybody, Welcome on Honey Badger
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  Radio. My name is Brian. I am joined by as always, my
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  austere patriarchs and our handmaiden that is Hannah, Mike Jay, and doctor Randmercamp.
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  Today on the HBr News Show, we're gonna be discussing more hoes Man
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  of the week or host sad of the week because we're talking about depression.
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  We're gonna be talking about the new sort of like the most recent news regarding
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  the trans Nashville shooter. Some updates regarding the cash app founder Bob Lee who
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  was murdered. We covered that a couple of weeks ago. Depression rates apparently
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  are spiking amongst women and more so, please stick around because it's gonna be
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  a good time. If we have time. I have a bonus story that
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  I learned about. It's not anything big, but if we if we have
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  what does it even mean for GTA to go woke? So you real brief
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  you guys might know rock Star They have a very successful franchise of video games
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  called Grand Theft Auto, and they're working on the sixth installment, and we
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  don't know much about it. At least I don't know much about it except
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  that the protagonist is a woman this time, which has not been done in
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  previous GTA games. Not entirely true, right if you count me online?
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  No, But I mean, unless there's something else I don't know about.
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  They're there are two intact are there are two protagonists in the new game you
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  switch off. They're like a Bonnie and Clyde duel woman. Okay, well,
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  okay, that that makes sense. But so they're one of the protagonists's
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  female and like a spicy Latina character. And I guess, and again I
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  don't know much about GTA six, um, but I guess people are are
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  complaining or something right that it might be going the way of Saints Row.
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  And we'll we'll see what the gamer dot com has to say about it.
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  They seem to be generally um against people having opinions on these on whatever's happening
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  with GTA. But I would actually make the argument, and we can do
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  this in the after show when we talk about this story that Rockstar has been
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  like into some degree kind of woke from the beginning, since all of their
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  games are satirizing America. And I think that um Red Dead Redemption two is
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  especially so in that way. But it depends on I guess, you know,
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  how you would define it. Not that that bothers me. I frankly
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  don't care, you know, UM, I have my own other issues with
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  the GTA franchise that are that that it's just kind of repetitive and hasn't really,
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  in my opinion, grown that much over over time. So on Brian,
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  wasn't the seventh the rerelease of GTA five the universally agreed to be the
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  best. See, I mean I never played five, Like, maybe this
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  is unfair, but the only GTA game I got into that I bought was
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  four, And I know a lot of people say it was like the most
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  rounded, very polarizing. Yeah it was because it wasn't as like over the
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  and I did you know? Four was fine? But again like um uh
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  log back into work. Have a good show. Well, thank you,
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  Meredith, really appreciate it. Okay, So now that all of that's out
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  of the way, let's get into today's stories. And we're gonna start with
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  the Nashville shooting. So I think, Mike J you did that one right,
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  I indeed did, Yes, you did. So lawyers are representing the
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  families of children attending Nashville's Covenant School want to block the release of the manifesto
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  of the shooter who attacked them last March. The attorney Eric Osborne argues that
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  quote writings like this tend to inspire additional school shootings. Joining the parents are
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  representatives for the Covenant School and church who also wish to block the release of
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  the manifesto, claiming it could further endanger the students and faculty. On the
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  other side of the case, attorney Rob Harvey, who is representing a local
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  media outlet, calls the blocking of the manifesto unprecedented, stating what happened that
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  day, it's a tragedy, but it doesn't mean that everyone at the school
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  is a victim. To expand on that a little more, what he's trying
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  to say is the parents of the children who were there aren't, as set,
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  aren't necessarily victims, and as again, according to the law, weren't
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  victims and therefore don't have any real grounds to try to attempt to block this.
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  Well, it sort of depends on what the manifesto says and who the
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  murderer was attempting to victimize on a collective basis, But I guess we'll never
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  know. Another attorney on the same side, Doug Pierce, who's representing the
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  National Police Association, agrees with Harvey and states that the parents need to know
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  what is in the manifesto if they wish to block it. Court Judge Latia
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  Miles will be given her decision by Wednesday, so that's tomorrow on whether she
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  believes the parents in Church's motion to intervene can go forward. I know,
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  I know, I'm probably among the last people to this out in the last
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  couple of months of news cycles. But yeah, as and when there is
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  the slightest hint of a mass murderer having any recorded inclinations, even fabricated inclinations
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  towards being a white supremacist or an in cell or anything vaguely right wing,
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  this information somehow makes its way past the courts, past any of the wishes
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  or preferences of the families of the victims, and it's plastered across the mainstream
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  media before the bodies are even cold, especially the very same mainstream media outlets
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  who would ostensibly claim that the last thing in the world they want to do
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  is encourage right wing violence, but by the logic outlined there, it's exactly
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  what they're doing. It's especially given that the world is already as overrun with
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  white supremacists in cells as they say it is, but it obviously isn't.
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  They're lying, and they know they're lying about that, but they need to
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  take every hand rubbing, mouthwatering opportunity they can to demonize everything to the right
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  of Stalin, because that's the only way to normalize where they are. I
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  eat somewhere so far to the left of Stalin, then it's off the fucking
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  chart. So this is bullshit. It's not about avoiding copycat killers or avoiding
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  any potential in endangering of the students or faculty. What they don't want to
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  endanger is the ideology in question, the activist movement that drove this person to
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  these murders, as outlined in their manifesto, as we can pretty much take
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  us red at this point. So by burying this manifesto, the only people
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  they're protecting are the copycat killers themselves, who most definitely do exist because they
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  know, of course, they know as much as everyone else knows. If
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  the motives of the murderer were pro white or pro male, or pro Christian
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  or pro cisgendered we would all have heard about them by now. We've heard
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  about them eight weeks ago. So not only are they protecting the copycat killers,
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  they are actively encouraging them in exactly the way they claim not to be
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  so. Any other broken, brainwashed suicidal cultists who fancy contributing to a cisgendered
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  genocide could go ahead and do so while committing suicide by cop just to kill
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  two birds with one stone, along with several children, and they can put
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  the crippling fear of God into everyone who believes in him, while their precious
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  woke community will never be blamed for it. As a matter of fact,
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  they will only be protected and celebrated for it, as they were in Tennessee
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  within a few days, even though everyone knows it is the fault of this
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  woke community for want of a much better word, So every time it gets
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  worse, the response is to make it even worse. It's not just accelerationism,
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  it's it's accelerated accelerationism exponentialism, Like at what fucking speed? If we
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  actually want to discourage violence, the message should be accelerationism doesn't work. Yeah,
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  but the message we're getting from the woke media and the acophobic legal system
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  is leftist. Accelerationism absolutely does work because we will do everything in our power
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  to make it work. And I don't know how much wrong we they can
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  get away with it, possibly forever. It depends to tell everyone's dead.
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  It's a murder suicide cult that won't stop until everyone is in a threaded pile
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  of bodies on the floor with a belly full of poison. Cool a save
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  yourselves, folks, get some guns, get some chickens, get off the
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  grid. I'll see you in Heaven's skates. Whichever comes. It really depends.
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  I guess on UM how the how the the families approached this, and
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  how the UM defense in this case if there is a if there's a legal
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  battle, UM, I guess there would have to be some media outlet that
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  wants the the manifesto going up against those parents. If they're just seeking to
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  block this and the only entity that would be defending it is the local department
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  or the local government, there may not even be a fight. So then
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  in that case, then yeah, they'll they'll block it from UM being released
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  because they'll they'll collaborate unless they want something about the school to be released.
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  And I kind of respect. That's part of the problem. There's probably something
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  you know, that has gone on at that school, either some some degree
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  of dysfunction, like there's been allegations of the school failing to deal with some
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  problems that the student had. Um, I've seen a couple of different allegations
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  of bullying. I've seen a few different allegations of sexual misconduct, and so
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  there's there's that they may be trying to protect the school against public allegations of
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  sexual misconduct. But in the meantime, if there are media outlets that are
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  trying to get this manifesto and there is actually a legal battle, they're going
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  to have to prove that it's not a First Amendment violation to keep you know,
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  the media from having that information and disseminating that information. UM, that
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  it's it's not an attack on the press. That seems like something that would
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  be kind of hinky. They would have to they'd have to prove that they
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  were not denying the press information that is in the public interest, and they'd
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  have to prove that it's not in the public interest to know why this attack
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  happened. And I don't I don't think anybody can prove that that it's not
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  in the public interest. So that's going to be a difficult one. The
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  other thing is how far it goes, you know, like if there is
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  a legal battle and not just rubber stamping, and whoever wants to publish that
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  manifesto or report on the manifesto is willing to they can take it because they
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  can sue as a First Amendment freedom of the press issue, they could take
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  that all the way to Supreme Court. So we may see a result on
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  this very quickly, or we may see this may take a couple of years
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  to lay out, and um, the ruling may may determine whether or not
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  the government has allowed local or federal to withhold information about the causes behind a
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  major event that you know, might be in the public interest to know and
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  and withhold that from the media. Um. So that's this could be a
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  big story. This could be something where it's we're hearing about it like it's
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  a legal battle, but actually it's already said and done. Possibly. I
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  was thinking that, like from what I heard from some accounts is that their
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  their their concern is for you know, personal information, um, related to
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  the families and you know, of the of the victims because some of the
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  victims were miners. And I was thinking, well, I mean, and
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  they could block just release, redact personal information and can redact. Yeah,
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  they could. But at the same time, that's from saying like the it's
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  it's not the families that are against it, it's the lawyers, so um
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  that I don't like their Their claim is that if they put it out there,
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  it's gonna inspire more school shootings. And I think that's not that's not
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  a an issue that should be used to silence any kind of media. Like
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  if if somebody's behaving behaving badly, somebody else behaving badly is a reason to
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  take away your rights, Ye, well we could just say good bye to
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  all of our rights. Like there's people are going to behave badly all the
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  time. No, I get it, I get it. I guess what
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  I'm saying is is that, like I don't know that what they're trying to
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  do is cover their ass from some kind of like malfeasance or misbehavior. I
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  think this is about, uh, you know, preventing this happening in the
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  future. But but but here's the thing, doesn't it suggest just by the
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  desire to block the release that there is something damning in it that like sort
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  of like um that it sort of like confirms or at least like makes it
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  look like this shooting was not random. It wasn't just some emotional outburst.
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  It was you know, premeditated. It was directed at a specific group of
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  people for a specific reason, and likely because they're Christians. Like but likely
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  that's what it is, and that's what I'm guessing one of the reasons.
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  I don't know if this has been Like I read this article that was it
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  was like a piece that was written by the husband of one of the victims,
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  one of the women that was killed in the shooting, and he said
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  that, So there's the school, and connected to the school is a cathedral,
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  and supposedly the shooter shot out at seven times this stain glass window that
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  had Adam from Adam and Eve on it. So she shoots, she blew
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  out a stain glass window that pictures the first man, and that was the
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  thing that got my attention before she went in to shoot at the students.
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  So there is something symbolic that appears to have happened. Again, I can't
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  confirm it, because maybe the manifesto would tell us more but I don't think
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  that you would do that, like as an accident, especially the same window
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  seven times according to husband of the woman who was killed. You know,
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  I would I want to know. I want to know more about the student's
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  record at the school herself, because she was a student. She obviously was
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  an adult at the time of the shooting, but she had been a student
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  at that school yeah years ago though, like she was like twenty or something.
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  Yeah, I think that would be relevant, you know, yeah,
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  maybe if they don't release her manifesto, maybe the media should start digging into,
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  you know, what was what what was her experience as a student at
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  that school, like, because that's something that they should they should be wondering
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  about. Like if I was a reporter covering this story, if I was
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  a local reporter covering this story, I would be asking questions about that,
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  especially after the community was publishing allegations, you know, the community UM I'll
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  say the rainbow called UM as opposed to the LGBT community because they're not the
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  same. But the rainbow called posting allegations. And I think if a reporter
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  is honestly covering this story, they would have to investigate those allegations. You'd
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  want to be able to report whether that was absolute bullshit or whether there was
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  something to that. And uh, you know, like with students, we
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  know, for instance, that it can really fuck up a boy if a
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  teacher does something like that. Um, so yeah, it's reasonable to assume
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  it would also fuck up a girl. And with the current political situation and
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  the politics the politicization of trans issues and gender identity issues and stuff, it's
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  very possible that you know, some somebody did fuck up this girl as a
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  kid, and um, that is why she ended up like this. Yeah,
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  so I like it's it's I don't want to put all the eggs in
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  the idea that the Manifesto is gonna be specifically condemning of one group of people.
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  Um, not that I haven't got my suspicions, I do. You
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  know, it's quite likely that it is. But there may be more going
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  on to this than just one thing, and there may be more being protected
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  than just one thing. Maybe, And it's it's what go ahead. It's
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  worth going back to first principles to some degree, they're kind of right in
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  principle. This is what people have been warning us about ever since Columbine,
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  ever since before Columbine. Like, whenever a mass shooting or any sort of
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  massively heinous crime like this happens, the best advice you can give the media
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  is don't make these people famous because then you because because then you you're showing
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  everyone else. Here is a perfect avenue to become famous even after death the
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  people. You know, a lot of people really really like the idea of
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  being famous even after the death. That's why those massive pyramids exist. And
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  so yeah, that's this is a generally good principle. But people aren't holding
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  to it. Yeah, well, and I mean not everybody who's who wants
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  to be famous goes out and shoots up a school. You have to have
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  other factors in place too. This is not the route to becoming famous.
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  It is a disturbed person's consideration of a route to become famous. Like they
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  they they're going to assume they'll become famous this way and they don't mind dying
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  for it, and it might not even beat the goal most of the time,
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  you know. Um, So like I don't. I don't believe in
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  the idea of just um withholding information to avoid copycats because I think it protects
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  the people who really should have something like this coming, or really should have
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  done better for that kid before before they grew up to do something like this
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  against criticism for failing to properly mentor the kid. And in this day and
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  age, it's it's pretty difficult to keep that cat in the bag. Now,
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  in the age of social media where even you know, the closest friends
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  of of whoever the killer was, know who that person was. They have
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  social media. All their friends had social media, all their enemies had social
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  media, and there were some conversations posted online shortly afterwards. I'm not sure
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  how reliable they were, but um, she posts. He posted something on
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  the lines of I'm going to die tonight, I'm probably going to be on
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  the news tomorrow. Again. I don't know if it was real, but
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  you know, whoever they whoever they are, they certainly must have had a
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  social media. It would be unusual if they didn't, because almost everyone has
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  social media these days, and even without social media, like you look at,
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  um, the histories of school shooters and mass shooters, a lot of
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  times, you can look back at their interactions with people there their lack of
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  socialization, you know, things like that where they had disturbing behaviors before they
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  got to the point of mass violence. Yeah, so like some somewhere along
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  line, somebody failed to identify that, hey, this this person is demonstrating
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  tendencies toward violence. They're demonstrating tendencies toward maybe inappropriate anger or something like that,
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  and didn't do anything about it. And and that's a big problem in
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  schools to begin with, Like they they kind of shuffle kids off to you
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  know, pass it on to another teacher, passed them on to the next
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  class, put them in and detention, expel them, but they don't they
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  don't do anything about the behavior. And when it comes to like a demonstration
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  of a mental health condition or demonstration of a way of thinking and a way
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  of engaging with other people that implies a tendency to word violence, like they
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  don't. There doesn't seem to be a sufficient response to that. And I
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  think parents a lot of times don't want to believe there's anything wrong with their
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  kid, so they don't get meant, they don't get the mental health help
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  they need. And like, we don't know exactly what happened in this case,
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  but like I said, I think there's probably a lot more nuance to
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  this than just parents not wanting the manifesto released because you know, Rainbow Cult.
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  I think they're I think there's probably some people who failed this person when
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  she was a kid that don't want it to come out that they failed to
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  do what the adults in her life should have done for her. Go ahead,
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  Mike, I've got some interesting thoughts here. Um, the most charitable
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  take I have on the on them trying to get the whole thing redacted.
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  Maybe it's a big ask and they'll settle for Okay, we don't want the
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  entire thing block. We just want to be able to, you know,
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  apply some zebra pain, if you know what I mean, and remove some
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  things so that that that that's what they're gonna settle for. But that's what
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  they wanted in the beginning, possibly now bumping it out a little bit to
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  the macro. I still find it very funny that we still don't have access
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  to this manifesto and it keeps balancing between I guess, depending on what you're
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  talking to, either this is just the ramblings of a mad person or possibly
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  the most dangerous document we've we've seen since, uh since mind Camp, which
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  I guess is also technically the ramblings of a mad person depending on who you
• 28:17
  ask. Yeah, I mean, like the Mexican Nazis manifesto came out right
• 28:23
  away, right, let's see that that. That's the other thing I wanted
• 28:26
  to like kind of circle back to a point that Mike made earlier, which
• 28:30
  was, yeah, when it's when it's in one direction. We seem to
• 28:33
  have all of the information overnight. Yeah, you know, we we have.
• 28:38
  We know exactly their ideology. We we've tracked down every social media post
• 28:44
  they made to this very obscure Russian blog with zero views. But on these
• 28:52
  ones, you know, it's just I don't know, I don't know.
• 28:53
  It's all yeah, who knows? Uh? And and if in case you
• 28:57
  haven't heard apparently where we're all so getting a bunch of information. I don't
• 29:00
  know if you guys heard about this last night. They're saying that someone rented
• 29:06
  a U haul and crashed it into the White House gates. Yeah yeah,
• 29:11
  yeah, yeah, and oh he had a he had a he had a
• 29:15
  Nazi flag in there too. Because you know, when I like to go
• 29:18
  commit my hate crimes, you know, I make sure to carry all of
• 29:21
  my hate crime paraphernalia with me, just so the arresting officers know exactly what
• 29:25
  I was doing and why, and yeah, fucking Si Varshath Kandula, I
• 29:32
  promise I'm not casting a spell. That was the guy's name, very white
• 29:34
  supremacists, very airying sounding name. Yeah, very And I'm sure we're going
• 29:40
  to have all of the information by by by twenty four hours from now on
• 29:45
  this guy. But we're still not going to have any idea what was in
• 29:48
  that manifesto. Yeah, we're still not going to have any fucking motivation for
• 29:53
  the Vegas shooter. Yep, we still don't. And that's the thing,
• 29:57
  Like, look, I get it, like people are worried about poppycats.
• 30:03
  I'm personally not. But what I am annoyed by is this selective approach to
• 30:07
  what we release in what we don't. Um. I don't think that there's
• 30:12
  anything in that person's manifesto for the for this Tennessee shooting that could possibly justify
• 30:22
  what she did. There's there's nothing in there, so we may as well
• 30:26
  know what, you know, like what her reasoning was. I mean,
• 30:30
  I don't care if she was bullied in school ten years ago or whatever it
• 30:33
  was, or five years ago, like that doesn't justify this so UM,
• 30:38
  clearly she had problems probably before school, Like I would you know, I
• 30:45
  think that journalists should look into what her home life was like if they could.
• 30:49
  Maybe it's in the manifesto maybe, you know, like who knows so
• 30:56
  well, not every detail counts as a justification either, yea about the reasons
• 31:00
  why something happened. It's this is one of the things that pisces me off
• 31:04
  about feminists. You talk about, UM, how crime happens, and like,
• 31:08
  one of the things that we've had to talk about is with rape perpetration.
• 31:15
  For instance, the UM data shows that there is a high rate of
• 31:21
  victimization as kids in the histories of perpetrators of sexual misconduct, sexual assault,
• 31:30
  UM, sexual imposition and uh, you know, sexual harassment, stalking,
• 31:34
  stuff like that. There's a there's a high rate of having been victims as
• 31:40
  as kids, and there's a high rate of female perpetration in that history against
• 31:48
  those kids. So feminists immediately get all up in arms and are like,
• 31:52
  here, you're blaming women for for getting rape. No, nobody said the
• 31:56
  victim was the perpetrator of that. What we're saying is, obviously, when
• 32:02
  this happens to a kid, you have to take into consideration that there's been
• 32:08
  some psychological damage that needs to be treated, and one of the many ways
• 32:15
  it can go is for the kid to stop recognizing other people's boundaries. You
• 32:22
  know, you also have people that become poly victims, and there's a there's
• 32:28
  a tendency among childhood victims that that don't become perpetrators and don't necessarily get the
• 32:36
  best treatment after having been victimized to become poly victims, where they don't learn
• 32:43
  to to communicate and enforce their own boundaries. And so these are things that
• 32:47
  you talk about where you're not saying, all right, well, that means
• 32:51
  that the person is at fault for their own victimization. I mean like that,
• 32:58
  that doesn't mean that. It means that when we know something bad like
• 33:01
  that has happened to a child, that as adults, if we want to
• 33:07
  prevent either of those two terrible outcomes from happening, our best chance at doing
• 33:13
  that is to take every major we can to help the child rebuild what the
• 33:20
  perpetrator tore down in the process of grooming or physically assaulting. And that's tough.
• 33:29
  It's tough to have those conversations. And it's the same thing with this
• 33:31
  shooter. If you have somebody that was bullied, or if you have somebody
• 33:37
  that was sexually exploited by an educator or an administrator or somebody else in authority
• 33:45
  when when she was a student, if either of those allegations were true,
• 33:50
  and we don't know if they were or not, you know, like if
• 33:52
  that's true and adults knew about it and there were complaints and there must have
• 33:59
  been because otherwise is like the their rainbow cult would not know about it.
• 34:05
  Um, then there should have been an effort to help, you know,
• 34:10
  redevelop the student's mental health and you know, the the tools that normally you
• 34:19
  use for socialization that get broken down when it doesn't go well when somebody m
• 34:28
  does something awful to you, or when you don't connect with your fellow students
• 34:31
  and you get bullied. Like that's it's the responsibility of the adults in the
• 34:36
  situation to help that young person through that situation and help them develop the social
• 34:44
  tools that they're going to need to process that and move on and to you
• 34:51
  know, socialize as an adult and not become violent or a serial victim.
• 35:00
  Yeah, there is another challenge here too. Um. Let's say that in
• 35:06
  the manifesto, she goes into detail of like you know, or she expresses
• 35:13
  that she was bullied, assaulted or even like molested and raped. There is
• 35:19
  there is a problem with that. First of all, we'd have to prove
• 35:22
  it, but but more than that, we'd also have to consider, like
• 35:24
  what do people of her generation consider to be violence and an assault and all
• 35:31
  that. Is it just discomfort? Is it people disagreeing with her? Is
• 35:36
  it being dead named? Is it using the wrong pronouns? Because that's the
• 35:39
  stuff that really upsets people of that generation that are a part of that like
• 35:45
  tumbler cult, And so I to them, or at least they'll say that,
• 35:52
  you know, you're basically killing me by not using my by dead naming
• 35:54
  me or not using my preferred pronouns, and so this is justification for what
• 35:59
  I'm doing. And the problem is is that it might not be worded in
• 36:01
  a way that allows us to really be able to parse that, and so
• 36:07
  it might just get reported as, oh, yeah, she was assaulted,
• 36:09
  this school was totally like awful to her and that's why she did that.
• 36:13
  And now and so we have to like understand that they're the language of the
• 36:21
  progressive okay, is completely different from ours, and so like they use words
• 36:27
  that that mean that to us means something very extreme, and they use it
• 36:30
  every day. And this person, because young people are very prone to this
• 36:37
  um, could have just swallowed all of it. So like the manifesto might
• 36:39
  even might not even be very useful to understand, like what like how they
• 36:45
  got to this point? Well, actually that would be useful in one way.
• 36:49
  It would it would prove that the language of the woke and the manner
• 36:55
  of thinking of the woke, the victimy thinking of the woke are causes of
• 37:00
  violence and need to be restrained and reformed. Yeah, well, I mean,
• 37:06
  yeah, you can. You can see that. Well, that's what
• 37:07
  I'm saying. Though. The problem is is that how are we going to
• 37:09
  know? That's why even if she had said or made a bunch of claims,
• 37:15
  they would have Oh, I guess the school is terrible. You know,
• 37:21
  there's two ways to describe a thing of One of them is to just
• 37:23
  use buzzwords, and the other one is to actually go in depth and describing
• 37:29
  what happened. Ye, and if the if I was really going off the
• 37:36
  deep end and was gonna you know, write a write a suicide note,
• 37:38
  because that's what it would be if I wouldn't go and hurt other people under
• 37:44
  any circumstance. But when I was suicidal, UM, you know I was.
• 37:47
  I was not I would have been uh not using bud buzzwords. I
• 37:53
  was. I was describing um in in my journal exactly detail by detail the
• 38:04
  things that I felt had affected my mind and even I mean, this is
• 38:09
  the other thing, all right. When you've been through an experience of sexual
• 38:15
  victimization as a kid, you know that you have been screwed up. You
• 38:22
  don't understand it, you don't have a way of articulating it exactly, but
• 38:28
  you know that you've been you've been stirred up wrong. I guess would it
• 38:34
  be a you've been scrambled like scrambled eggs in ways in your head and you
• 38:38
  know it and you don't have you don't have buzzwords for that. You have
• 38:45
  you know, I'm I'm all mixed up because I always thought this, and
• 38:50
  then I was convinced of this, and then this happened and and so on,
• 38:53
  and you can give a whole whole lass description of being groomed. So
• 38:59
  they don't I don't expect that, um, it would be that difficult to
• 39:06
  to tell. Like if you just see a bunch of buzzwords, then you
• 39:09
  know that what she's she's talking about, what she's been dealing with, is
• 39:15
  having the way that she thinks changed by this woke ideology. But if you
• 39:20
  have a description of actions, physical actions that were taken against her, that's
• 39:25
  not woke ideology. That's abuse. Maybe. I mean, if she was
• 39:31
  a kid, yeah, it's it's like there's no there's no justification for that
• 39:37
  either. No, of course not. But go ahead, one last thing.
• 39:42
  I just I think it was this shooting. I'm pretty darn sure it
• 39:47
  was this shooting. They did kind of let one thing slip from either the
• 39:53
  planning or the manifesto or whatever very early, and I think that kind of
• 39:59
  gets read of the Oh it was something to do with the school narrative that
• 40:05
  they made a point to say that this individual really did a lot of research
• 40:10
  trying to find the perfect place to hit and actually canceled I don't know if
• 40:19
  it was an attempt or at the planning stages at that point, but actually
• 40:23
  canceled one of the shootings because they said, oh, they saw armed security
• 40:29
  at a place, and so this school wasn't even a first choice. It
• 40:35
  was possibly a second or third because again that what they said was they wanted
• 40:40
  to go after a place where they knew no one was going to fight back,
• 40:45
  where they knew they weren't going to face any resistance, and that they
• 40:49
  can get in and out easily, and that they were familiar with. Well,
• 40:52
  that is one reason why they would target nine year olds. Exactly what
• 40:55
  we were talking about the other the other week. Like a signing an area
• 41:01
  of a parking lot for women only is like holding up a sign saying come
• 41:06
  on in rapists, like a sign outside fight bank zone, a gun free
• 41:13
  zone outside of school, as I say, come on in math shooters.
• 41:19
  That's true, and of course that would be a church, right, Um,
• 41:24
  thanks for that. I didn't know that. I guess we'll see tomorrow
• 41:29
  when the judge makes a ruling on whether or not they're going to release the
• 41:31
  manifesto and in what condition, like how much of it it will be redacted
• 41:37
  or what have you. So we have to say, I'll end this on
• 41:39
  a semi humorous note. If this is in the interests of the parents.
• 41:44
  I have to say, if you let the manifesto go public and it reveals
• 41:47
  all the incriminating things that the work media doesn't want the public to know about.
• 41:52
  Then go ahead and do it, and wait for the pundits at CNN
• 41:55
  and MSNBC like Rachel Maadow and Anderson Cooper to start screeching about how none of
• 42:01
  this is true. It's all a collusion and you parents are all a bunch
• 42:06
  of crisis actors working for your own interest. Do you have any idea how
• 42:10
  much you can sue them for? According to precedent, and unlike Alex Jones,
• 42:16
  these counts and the companies they work for can actually afford several billion dollars,
• 42:22
  and then when George Soros shoots them another ten billion dollars, you can
• 42:25
  rinse him for all his money as well. You could do so much good
• 42:30
  for the world, especially for the very American Christians theoretically would like to protect.
• 42:36
  How much money are they paying you to bury this information, because in
• 42:40
  theory you could get so much more for unearthing it. That is, of
• 42:45
  course, assuming that the Rachel Meadows and Anderson Coopers of the world face the
• 42:50
  same legal consequences as the Alex Joneses of the world. You may say I'm
• 42:53
  a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. Maybe I am. All
• 43:00
  right, let's move on to the next story. Let us know when you
• 43:00
  guys think about this one in the comments, and I look forward to seeing
• 43:06
  your thoughts because it is an interesting story and we and we shouldn't forget it
• 43:09
  because the media would like us to. All right, Well, anyway,
• 43:14
  speaking of the media, I'm gonna mention this thing about January sixth, So
• 43:20
  the US Department of Justice says that they have arrested over one thousand Trump supporters.
• 43:24
  That's how that's how CNBC dot com is framing it. For the January
• 43:30
  six Capital protest. As cited by CNBC, about one third of Capital riot
• 43:35
  defendants have been charged with assault, resisting arrest, impeding police, or something
• 43:39
  like that during the attack, and about four hundred and twenty defendants have already
• 43:44
  been adjudicated and sentenced for their criminal activity, including like some people who are
• 43:50
  very old, like like old old women, for example. The Department of
• 43:54
  Justice is resolved to hold accountable those who committed crimes on January six, twenty
• 43:59
  one, has not and will not wane. The DJ updates dead. FBI
• 44:04
  officials were concerned that footage from inside the US Capital on January six, twenty
• 44:07
  twenty one, would show undercover agents and confidential informants, a whistleblower said in
• 44:13
  testimony revealed on May eighteenth. He said Boston officials questioned why they couldn't get
• 44:19
  access to the tranch of some eleven thousand hours of footage because they have cameras
• 44:24
  everywhere, because it's the goddamn capital, from inside the capital, because there
• 44:30
  may be maybe UCS, which is undercover officers or confidential human sources on those
• 44:37
  videos whose identity we need to protect, according to Washington based officials. And
• 44:44
  I bring this up because well, first of all, we should not forget
• 44:47
  that there are people who are essentially just guilty of misdemeanors like trespassing that are
• 44:52
  being held for years, okay like years, and they're not no one he's
• 45:00
  hearing anything about it. Some of them are in solitary confinement. Um.
• 45:04
  And and you know it's it's not being reported, it's not being discussed.
• 45:08
  People are being punished disproportionately. And I, um, you know, you
• 45:14
  guys remember ash Ashcow the journalists, Yeah, that she used to write about
• 45:19
  college rape cases as false allegations mostly right, And since those days and she
• 45:24
  was also involved with Gamergate. Um and since those days, Ash has you
• 45:30
  know, gotten married, had kids, and she's moved to North Carolina.
• 45:35
  And I spoke to her on Facebook because she and I are still friends,
• 45:37
  and I chat with her sometimes because I like to, you know, see
• 45:40
  what's going on. And she currently writes for the Washington Examiner, the Daily
• 45:45
  Wire, and probably some other stuff. And I asked her about this and
• 45:49
  she told me that, um uh in from what she knows, like none
• 45:54
  of this stuff that's happening. She thinks it's absolutely absurd that people are being
• 46:00
  treated this way for trespassing and they're being called or labeled as enemies of the
• 46:04
  state. And so I think that, um, I just wanted to mention
• 46:08
  this story briefly. I know the photograph that I have here displayed is kind
• 46:15
  of um well, how do I put it. It's intended to make bias
• 46:21
  your view on this. But remember there were FEDS there and there was only
• 46:25
  one death, and the person who was killed was one of the protesters that
• 46:30
  was unfortunately climbing in through a window that like apps I think broke. Uh
• 46:36
  So, everybody, what's what you know, like the scale of this there
• 46:40
  was only one death that was actually at the site. Yeah, it was
• 46:44
  actually in the periphery. Yeah, there was only one murder, Shelby said,
• 46:49
  Yeah, there was one killed by another person. Yeah, and there
• 46:53
  was only one. There was only one death that was caused by the event.
• 47:00
  Yeah. Everything that they labeled caused by the event. Um, like
• 47:06
  they claimed the protesters killed people that was disproved. Well, yeah, right,
• 47:15
  they might be able to say, yeah, they might be able to
• 47:17
  say that suicides were caused by the event. But but I wouldn't say that
• 47:22
  on the protesters, Yeah, because those were officers that might feel guilty about
• 47:27
  how they handled the situation. Yeah. And the cop that killed Ashley bad
• 47:30
  Bit was not charged, was not prosecuted. He wasn't a cop. He
• 47:34
  was he was he was super service Yeah whoever the guy, and he was
• 47:38
  also he was also a tremendous fuck up. Yeah, he had to be
• 47:43
  disciplined I think more than once for leaving his service weapon in a public bathroom.
• 47:53
  So anyway, on this, but I just wanted to, like,
• 47:57
  you know, remind him, I mean about this. If you want people
• 48:01
  to really take you seriously, if you really want to bolster your credibility with
• 48:09
  the public, that the most important thing for you to do is too heavy
• 48:15
  handedly, and I mean like absolutely heavy handedly punish anybody that doesn't believe you,
• 48:22
  because that just totally makes people trust you. Know they've obviously if they're
• 48:30
  going to get severely punished for demonstrating a lack of trust in you and communicating
• 48:39
  their their dissatisfaction with your handling of their questions about your actions and how how
• 48:52
  a particular event was run that affects their lives, the most important way to
• 49:00
  communicate to them that you are an upstanding and trustworthy and believable, credible person
• 49:07
  or entity is to severely punish anybody that questions you in any way, shape
• 49:13
  or form, even just by coming to visit to ask more questions. That
• 49:20
  just is the best trust building exercise. You don't want to show transparency,
• 49:25
  you don't want to open up for more questions, you don't want to meet
• 49:31
  with people and discuss the situation with them, and you certainly don't want to
• 49:36
  open an investigation into what they're questioning. Nope, just punish the shit out
• 49:40
  of them, and then everybody that is affected by your decision making will trust
• 49:46
  you from there on out. They'll know that you're absolutely being honest and forthright
• 49:53
  with them. Joly, I'm sensing a little bit of sensing a little bit
• 49:59
  of sarcasm in your voice. I don't know if it might be the case.
• 50:04
  Maybe so for everyone across the media and across the internet who on the
• 50:10
  afternoon of January the sixth was watching all of this and rapidly calling for the
• 50:15
  mass punishment of those protesters to the full extent of the law. Yeah,
• 50:21
  the question is are you satisfied? Is that enough to satiate your appetite for
• 50:28
  retribution those thousand or so people? Is that enough? Let's leave aside how
• 50:34
  that global cult of racial Marxists took siege on our cities all over the world,
• 50:39
  just in America, all over the world, just months before. Let's
• 50:44
  forget for now. How to you, it was just inconceivable authoritarianism for anyone
• 50:49
  to even suggest that those rioters should have been punished if they weren't. By
• 50:54
  the way, for the most part, even those who were taken into custody
• 50:58
  were posted bail from some mysterious source or other, as there's always been the
• 51:02
  case every time Antifert and BLM do this, an option that has not been
• 51:07
  even extended to these Trump supporters. I realize that to you, folks,
• 51:12
  the satisfactory number of communist terrorists getting detained would be exactly zero. But it's
• 51:17
  worth asking, what is the satisfactory number of protesters against your kaphobic regime to
• 51:24
  be detained for two and a half years and counting? Is a thousand or
• 51:30
  so? Enough? Can you now put down the pitchfork and dismount from your
• 51:36
  high horse and say, yes, that's enough. That's just about the goldilocks
• 51:42
  amount of blood for which I was lusting. I am sufficiently satisfied. You
• 51:46
  may now put down the machine, get and get back to arresting the violent
• 51:51
  criminals who are planning on doing masculines, you know, the ones already known
• 51:54
  to the FBI. I guess not weird, and yeah, no, something
• 52:00
  tells me it's still not enough. A thousand Trump supporters is nothing. It
• 52:05
  still leaves seventy something million fascist heathen infidels that you still want off the streets
• 52:13
  and punished forever for their heresy, And even that will not be enough.
• 52:16
  From then on, you'll focus your crosshairs on anyone who attends the two minutes
• 52:22
  of hate and doesn't scream quite loud enough at the ghost of Emmanuel Goldstein.
• 52:27
  Yeah, I realize. I realized none, none of the people I'm talking
• 52:30
  to are even listening to me or to Honey Badger Radio. Ever, we're
• 52:35
  we're quite high up on your list of enemies of the state. I guess
• 52:37
  all I'm doing is expressing my own particular two minutes. But you'll notice I'm
• 52:43
  directing it at the ruling regime, and I always will til my dying breath,
• 52:47
  as soon or as late as that might idea. I just want to
• 52:52
  say one last thing about this. And I've said this before, but I
• 52:58
  was almost there, like like the day of I know, I know,
• 53:05
  and my wife did too. She begged me not to go, and I
• 53:07
  was like, so I was, I'm only three hours away from DC.
• 53:12
  I was gonna go because all I wanted to do was interview people and like
• 53:15
  get their opinions on things and maybe like plug the channel right like hopefully,
• 53:21
  because I've noticed that the same kind of people that our Trump supporters tend to
• 53:25
  also be sympathetic to men's issues. So I was like, well, this
• 53:29
  could be an opportunity and I would put out some video and all that.
• 53:32
  And I didn't end up going because you know, could ranner Cam and other
• 53:37
  people and Lindsay. Lindsay especially she was like, please don't go because if
• 53:40
  something happens to you, you know, she'd be screwed. Basically, the
• 53:47
  thing is that even if this is this is what I want to point out,
• 53:50
  Okay, even the people who didn't go inside got arrested, even people
• 53:54
  who had who were who were on the periphery, who were just watching,
• 53:59
  or maybe they were some people that like I think Tim Poole like got a
• 54:02
  phone. He wasn't even there. Okay, So it doesn't like people will
• 54:08
  say, well so and you know, some people are breaking a law or
• 54:12
  whatever. Yeah, misdemeanors at best, like misdemeanors at best. And the
• 54:17
  people who were doing stuff like Epps, for example, who is a FED.
• 54:22
  Let's just face it, like, you know, he was a FED.
• 54:24
  He's obviously not going to serve like anything, like, nothing's going to
• 54:28
  happen. So if I had gone, there's a pretty good chance that I
• 54:31
  would not be hosting this show even now, even though it's been a couple
• 54:36
  of years. So yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess I
• 54:39
  count my blessings. But that's one of the reasons why I'm watching this story
• 54:44
  because I'm looking at what almost happened to me. There's some other things that
• 54:49
  people should be aware of with regard to that as well, Like, not
• 54:52
  only would you not have to have engaged in any crime to be accused and
• 54:57
  convicted of a crime. In this instance, they have that they've already been
• 55:01
  caught lying in in people's cases, they've already been caught um where where it's
• 55:10
  Uh, it's been alleged that the individual did a bunch of things on their
• 55:15
  own, and then it comes out that actually it was a FED basically directed
• 55:21
  them. And this is not a one off either. There have over the
• 55:29
  last ten years been several news articles come out where you know, this this
• 55:36
  person or that person gets arrested for and convicted of planning a terrorist act,
• 55:43
  and then you find out, well, actually this person was along for the
• 55:46
  ride while the FEDS were planning them for them to commit a terrorist act and
• 55:52
  providing all the materials. Uh, And like even um, I can't remember
• 56:00
  what all mental health conditions the kid had, but one of them was autism
• 56:05
  if I remember right, I think schizophrenia. They basically contacted the least capable
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  person they could find a vetting information that was that was coming into him because
• 56:16
  he was discontented about some things that they didn't want him to be discontinued,
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  you know, people to be discontented over, and talked him into radicalized him,
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  you know, for to use their language, talked him into committing violence
• 56:34
  provided a vehicle, provided the ability to go get the materials and everything.
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  And his parents had to come out and say, you know, he never
• 56:40
  would have been capable of doing this, like much less come up with the
• 56:45
  idea. He physically and mentally could not have achieved any of this if it
• 56:52
  hadn't been for FBI informants contacting him, planning it, for him buying the
• 56:59
  equipment, or him transporting him, and and then then you know, the
• 57:05
  state was going to hold him responsible for all of that. Now, if
• 57:09
  that had involved drugs or prostitution and a local precinct had done all of that
• 57:17
  to somebody and then arrested them for drug dealing or engaging in one side or
• 57:24
  the other of prostitution, that would be labeled entrapment. They would they would
• 57:32
  not have a case against that person and they would be disciplined for it.
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  But since it's the FEDS. Since it is the federal police, the FBI,
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  that's that's a different story, you know. And for me, this
• 57:47
  is a particularly sad thing because, you know, my great grandfather was a
• 57:54
  Secret Service officer, you know, back back when the Secret Service was about
• 58:00
  preventing the president from getting murdered and the CIA was about murdering the president.
• 58:06
  Um. And and it's it's just sad. It's sad to see, uh,
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  what should have been our country's immune system against crime and against um infiltration
• 58:22
  by foreign interests trying to interfere with our political system become the vehicle for for
• 58:32
  protecting our our our country's system against vigilance. Yeah, you know, against
• 58:45
  you know, not not necessarily vigilantism, but transparency, against vetting of the
• 58:54
  character of the people involved, against vetting the process itself. Like it's you
• 59:00
  know, every from the from the top down, every agency that we are
• 59:07
  told that we should trust to protect the citizens against having our country taken over
• 59:19
  by nut jobs and malevolent interests are protecting the nut jobs and malevolent interests at
• 59:27
  the expense of the civil rights of the people. Yep, completely upside down.
• 59:34
  We might as well not have a law enforcement for us, we might
• 59:37
  as well not have, you know, a national security organization because it is
• 59:43
  doing exactly the opposite of what we are told it should be doing. We
• 59:47
  should start calling it national insecurity. Yeah, it's it's got a change,
• 59:52
  um, but we got to move on. I find myself asking if which
• 1:00:00
  is it with with the FBI. Are they perpetrating these things? Is it
• 1:00:07
  merely just as banal as they need to justify their their salaries and the money
• 1:00:19
  they get paid by the government and that's where it stops. Or do they
• 1:00:27
  do these things not only for that reason, but to start, you know,
• 1:00:32
  sewing certain seeds that they want to sew, like uh, yeah,
• 1:00:36
  you know, you got to be really scared about those A white supremacist,
• 1:00:39
  I mean, haven't you heard they're the biggest threat to national security? But
• 1:00:43
  that all these things we've perpetrated. Yeah, and white supremacists are very diverse
• 1:00:49
  these days. They come in as well, don't you know the only rule
• 1:00:52
  of racism club is just be racist, the only Yeah. Yeah. The
• 1:01:00
  other the other thing too is that And this is the thing I've I've really,
• 1:01:06
  really really found that a lot of people don't know about January to sixth
• 1:01:13
  is that there were two protests that the White House isn't this small place,
• 1:01:21
  It's very very big. Yeah it is. It is. And you had
• 1:01:30
  two protests. The one where they simply walked through, maybe participated in some
• 1:01:37
  light tomfoolery that I would go as far as to call vandalism, and then
• 1:01:43
  there was the one where it was considerably more raucous, where there were people
• 1:01:50
  injured, there were cops injured, and yeah, I think a few of
• 1:01:53
  those arrests are definitely justified. Although had this happened in New York, they
• 1:01:59
  would have called up a slow day. Yeah, I would have been fiery,
• 1:02:01
  but mostly peaceful, or like the other time that BLM attacked the capital
• 1:02:06
  of Prior, and it was far more. Something over two hundred Secret Service
• 1:02:12
  agents were injured yea, and no arrests of note were made. And that
• 1:02:16
  really exposes what I'm trying to get at, which is this two tiered justice
• 1:02:22
  system. Yep, exactly. We've had another great example of that recently,
• 1:02:27
  without getting too much into it, I don't know if you guys recall the
• 1:02:30
  story we did several months ago of the teenager Trump supporter who got into an
• 1:02:39
  argument with a grown ass man who was drunk, who then proceeded to leave
• 1:02:45
  the area, get into his truck, stalk the kid, and then run
• 1:02:52
  him dead in the street like a dog. I remember that story. And
• 1:02:59
  they've us now just now got the plea down to manslaughter. Yeah, even
• 1:03:06
  though there was a clear, demonstratable previous interaction which makes this premeditated. Even
• 1:03:15
  though the guy was on the phone with his mother saying Mom, can you
• 1:03:20
  come pick me up? I think I'm being followed by someone. Yeah?
• 1:03:24
  Ye, And then the guy's defense, Oh my god, the most disgraceful
• 1:03:29
  part. The guy's defense when he immediately came in was like, I can't
• 1:03:32
  really go to jail. I've got a business to run, you know.
• 1:03:37
  I'm I'm I'm I'm a really busy important guy. Can we just get on
• 1:03:43
  with this? And yeah, like I said, just we're just gonna bump
• 1:03:46
  that down to manslaughter. Yeah. So it's gonna be really interesting to see,
• 1:03:52
  if you know, I don't want to jinx anything, but if if
• 1:03:57
  we get someone with common sense in the White House next, it's going to
• 1:04:00
  be interesting to see if we're going to have a repeat of twenty seventeen and
• 1:04:09
  and and we're going to see how quick that gets swept under the carpet,
• 1:04:14
  how how that gets just memory hold. Yeah, because exactly, I guess
• 1:04:19
  it's going to depend on who gets in. Whether it's somebody who was you
• 1:04:26
  know, at least in government at that time and had to deal with that
• 1:04:29
  stuff, or whether you know, you get you get somebody that's basically a
• 1:04:32
  nube that could forget that kind of thing. I imagine. I hope at
• 1:04:39
  least that if he were to get elected, Trump wouldn't make the same mistake
• 1:04:43
  twice UM. And I hope because he was governor through UM, through protests
• 1:04:53
  and other misconduct, and has has dealt with some of the craziness from the
• 1:05:00
  woke left, that if ron de Sandis gets elected, that he would not
• 1:05:05
  forget that stuff and that he would not make the same mistakes that Trump made
• 1:05:10
  during that time. Like you obviously you can't. If you're gonna be big
• 1:05:16
  government about some things, you have to be big government about that. And
• 1:05:20
  if you're gonna be small government, you gotta not lock people down and and
• 1:05:28
  you know, suddenly become big government. Because there's a ninety five percent survivable
• 1:05:33
  deadly virus out there that you know, Yeah, like that's the that's the
• 1:05:38
  other thing. Like January six, I watched all of this stuff happen from
• 1:05:45
  the bedroom my son had just moved out of UM a year earlier, where
• 1:05:51
  I was quarantine because you know, I was, I was, I was
• 1:05:55
  dying. Um, I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't even like I
• 1:06:00
  was infected, but I wasn't sick, if that makes sense, Like I
• 1:06:02
  had the minimum quarantine because they don't. They don't make you quarantine longer if
• 1:06:09
  you don't have symptoms, right, But but yeah, it's just if somebody
• 1:06:15
  started selling I Survived COVID T shirts, um, I think most of the
• 1:06:20
  country would have them. And that's of course what was going on at the
• 1:06:26
  time, and all of the majors that were taken and all of the craziness
• 1:06:30
  that happened during twenty twenty. Like how soon are people going to forget that?
• 1:06:34
  Right? Well, hopefully they never do, but it all depends on
• 1:06:40
  how thoroughly they've been propagandized. It was a great article that came out that
• 1:06:45
  said, we are going to forget most of what happened during the pandemic,
• 1:06:49
  and that's a good thing. Yeah, of course, of course, of
• 1:06:54
  course, it's these things it allows it to happen again, right, They
• 1:06:57
  desperately don't want people to remember. They pertly don't want to be held accountable,
• 1:07:01
  of course. But okay, look, I gotta move on. We
• 1:07:04
  got two more stories, maybe three if we can like get to it quickly
• 1:07:10
  enough, which I don't see that happening, but um, please send us
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• 1:07:33
  to where you can send us super chows or donating to our fundraiser or both.
• 1:07:38
  So with that said, we're gonna move on to the next story.
• 1:07:41
  Just a quick little follow up on the founder of cash app, right,
• 1:07:45
  Bob Lee. So, UM, I just think this was kind of a
• 1:07:49
  weird, you know, thing that we learned because we covered this story when
• 1:07:54
  it broke. Originally we didn't know much about what had happened, but we
• 1:07:58
  have a little bit more infos. Oh, mike Ja take it away.
• 1:08:01
  So the tech world was rocked nearly two months ago when a software engineer,
• 1:08:08
  businessman, and cash app founder Bob Lee was stabbed to death in his home
• 1:08:15
  city of San Francisco. Many were quick to blame the city's rising rate of
• 1:08:20
  random violent crime, but Lee's stabbing appears to be targeted. Just word of
• 1:08:27
  warning, we're going to be using the word allegedly a lot, so get
• 1:08:31
  prepared for that because the case is still developing. The prime suspect in the
• 1:08:38
  killing of Lee is a fellow, a tech worker by the name of Nima
• 1:08:42
  Momeni of I believe the guy was Pakistani. I want to say Iranian.
• 1:08:48
  Iranian all right, always makes those two up. According to CCTV footage and
• 1:08:55
  eye witnesses, it's likely that Momeni was the last person to who have inter
• 1:09:00
  rected with Lee brior to his death. The two allegedly had an argument about
• 1:09:05
  Momeni's sister, who was reportedly in a casual relationship with Lee, but then
• 1:09:11
  he was interested to learn if Lee was doing anything inappropriate with her. I
• 1:09:15
  don't have any more context for what that means. I don't know whether it
• 1:09:19
  means drugs or sex or what. And apparently Lee was quite fond of both
• 1:09:28
  even at the time of death. They noted that he was on a pharmacy's
• 1:09:31
  worth of chemicals. So they allegedly had this argument, and it's unclear how
• 1:09:41
  it ended, but it couldn't have been that bad because Lee entered Momeni's car
• 1:09:45
  and the two drove off around two am into a dark alley near the three
• 1:09:49
  hundred block of Main Street in the Rinkin Hill neighborhood of San Francisco. And
• 1:09:55
  again what happens next isn't super clear because there were no witnesses and there was
• 1:10:00
  no CCTV footage of exactly what was happening in there. But one moment later,
• 1:10:05
  Momeni appears and quickly drives off, and then the next Lee emerges from
• 1:10:13
  the alley, stumbling and bleeding, and by the time onlookers were able to
• 1:10:17
  call nine one one, Lee was already unconscious by the time the cops got
• 1:10:23
  there, and by the time they got him to the hospital he was pronounced
• 1:10:28
  dead after succumbing to stab wounds to his lungs and heart. So someone got
• 1:10:34
  him good. Do you know? Do you know how long it was before
• 1:10:39
  the cops, like between when they called and when the cops showed up how
• 1:10:42
  much time, I do not know. I was curious because this California,
• 1:10:46
  they probably defunded the police. So well, there is one thing stab wounds
• 1:10:51
  can kill really fast, especially in the lungs and heart. Yeah, a
• 1:10:57
  lot of blood vessels and essentially drowning. Yeah, and you if, if
• 1:11:02
  you don't end up with cardiac arrest. Okay, wait, wait till you
• 1:11:09
  hear the excuse. This is brilliant. I used that word quite wrongly,
• 1:11:13
  But go on, So as I said, Lee would be pronounced dead after
• 1:11:18
  succumbing to the stab wounds to his lungs and heart. The motive for Momenti's
• 1:11:24
  alleged stabbing is of Lee's unclear. Aside from Lee allegedly dating Momenty's sister,
• 1:11:30
  he also dated Momeni's ex girlfriend three years ago. Days later, Momenti was
• 1:11:35
  arrested and charged with murder for Lee's killing. Is officially entered a plea of
• 1:11:41
  not guilty, with his lawyer somewhat interestingly arguing the stabbing was a combination of
• 1:11:49
  accident and self defense. A combination of accident and self defense. You didn't
• 1:11:59
  mean to stand your ground, Yeah, you tripped and fell and accidentally defended
• 1:12:04
  yourself in a man's lungs and heart. I mean, it sounds like the
• 1:12:09
  daftest thing anyone's ever said, but really it's just a concise distillation of the
• 1:12:14
  argument along the lines of it didn't happen, but if it did, it
• 1:12:17
  was a good thing, and that certainly wouldn't be the first time we've heard
• 1:12:21
  that particular logical fallacy. We've heard it so many times that it deserves its
• 1:12:27
  own Latin name non st eat seat st bonhom s for anyone who's wondering,
• 1:12:33
  it's something out. So what are we going to do about this dire situation?
• 1:12:38
  Ah, well, it's time to ban knives America. That's the only
• 1:12:43
  Way's the only way we could have possibly prevented this. Normally we would band
• 1:12:46
  guns first, and then band knives, and then band potato peelers and cheese
• 1:12:50
  graters and so on. But we can make a special case for the good
• 1:12:55
  old us of a you have yourselves that second Amendment, But as we know,
• 1:12:59
  that was only ever a muskets and what have you. After all,
• 1:13:02
  for a militia to be well armed doesn't mean standing around with daggers and hunting
• 1:13:06
  knives, does it. So we'll go ahead and confiscate your knives, and
• 1:13:11
  you can find a way of using guns to spread your peanut butter and jelly
• 1:13:14
  sandwiches. Sounds like fun if nothing else. You know, I could see
• 1:13:21
  if you were in a fight with somebody and you were both high or drunk
• 1:13:27
  and stumbling around a single stab wound being an accident, where you know,
• 1:13:34
  somebody falls onto the knife or you fall into the other person. But a
• 1:13:40
  targeted set of stab wounds being an accident is a lot harder to explain.
• 1:13:47
  And it's not that easy to stab someone in the heart. Your body has
• 1:13:54
  a natural armor in front of your heart, it's called your sternum, and
• 1:13:57
  you you have to pierce that on purpose or get in between the ribs,
• 1:14:02
  and that's that's pretty hard to predict, you know. So getting somebody in
• 1:14:09
  the heart and the lungs, like, you almost have to have a specific
• 1:14:14
  effort going toward that, yeah, Or you have to be on the ground
• 1:14:19
  defending yourself against somebody that's attacking you from above, so that you're stabbing up
• 1:14:25
  into them. And again, I can see one stab wound being an accident
• 1:14:32
  in that circumstance, if they fall on you but it's awfully hard to argue
• 1:14:38
  that a second stab wound was an accident. So unless there was only one
• 1:14:44
  wound that went through both the lung and the heart, it's a little skeptical
• 1:14:51
  there was they said, the corner said there were exactly three stab wounds.
• 1:14:57
  Say if there was three stab wounds, I I'm really skeptical of calling that
• 1:15:01
  an accident. Yeah, that's self defense. It's is a distinct possibility.
• 1:15:09
  And and they're like, my my jury is going to be out until there's
• 1:15:13
  more information on that. But I'm really skeptical of the accident. Yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Um, so this guy Bobbly, so he he was banging this dude's sister
• 1:15:25
  and his ex girlfriend three years earlier, right, I thought that he and
• 1:15:30
  and he's like, you know, he basically was in the scene, as
• 1:15:33
  it were. For some reason. I thought he was like part of or
• 1:15:36
  he would attend some kind of like sex parties. Bobbly, this guy was
• 1:15:43
  definitely known to be in the sort of underground clubbing, rave drugging swinging scene.
• 1:15:49
  Yeah though, and and like engage in violence because of it. Why
• 1:15:57
  would you wait three years? Well, I don't know. Maybe, um,
• 1:16:04
  maybe he wasn't bothered by it, and then like, well, here's
• 1:16:06
  the thing. I don't know that it has anything to do with like this
• 1:16:10
  guy's relations you know, it might it might be something else. Originally I
• 1:16:15
  thought maybe it's a business thing, because they kind of thing, but there's
• 1:16:20
  no corroboration. I found that they that they that they knew each other previously
• 1:16:27
  to this. Yeah, only link is this you know, ex girlfriend several
• 1:16:30
  years ago, and the sister and and the sister and like I said,
• 1:16:35
  it was they appeared to have some sort of conversation. Some phrase it as
• 1:16:41
  an argument concerning the guy's sister. And maybe maybe he had knowledge that this
• 1:16:46
  guy was into a bunch of weird sex stuff and drug use and partying and
• 1:16:51
  didn't want that for his sister. But that's all speculation at this point.
• 1:16:56
  We don't. Yeah, like their motive in relationship is just yeah, completely
• 1:17:01
  unknown. Well I guess what what I think that might be a takeaway is
• 1:17:06
  that, like, you know, his lifestyle seemed to me to be pretty
• 1:17:13
  like high risk, not not just because of the stabbing, but just just
• 1:17:16
  like you know, the sex parties, the drugs, the the orgies,
• 1:17:20
  the dating whoever. Like, and I thought maybe maybe I'm wrong, but
• 1:17:24
  I thought he had children or something. But the the the guy that was
• 1:17:29
  stabbed Bobbly had children with his ex wife. I believe they separated at least
• 1:17:34
  a year ago, and I forget who got custody. I think she did
• 1:17:40
  yea, and they were married when he was when he was dating. Um,
• 1:17:44
  this could be the sister. It's unknown. It's unknown. Yeah,
• 1:17:48
  we don't know. But I mean, like if it was just a year
• 1:17:54
  versus three years, you know, unless his marriage was really short lived,
• 1:17:59
  which is a possibility that happens. But geez, I guess one takeaway from
• 1:18:06
  this is, uh, you know, the issue of proxy violences is pretty
• 1:18:12
  serious. And if this was a conflict over the sister or the X or
• 1:18:18
  both, and it wasn't self defense and it wasn't an accident, it wouldn't
• 1:18:26
  have happened without that conflict, right And if it, if it was self
• 1:18:31
  defense, then you have the question of did did a brother can you know,
• 1:18:38
  confront his sister's X over something inappropriate, something you know, awful or
• 1:18:45
  whatever, and the X was such a messed up guy that he attacked instead
• 1:18:51
  of just ending the conversation and walking away and and fought so hard that the
• 1:18:59
  brother felt obligated or so scared that he had to defend himself and with deadly
• 1:19:08
  force, in which case, what was she doing with that kind of guy
• 1:19:13
  to begin with? You know, um, when when? And it's it's
• 1:19:16
  difficult to really speculate on this because we don't know enough details. But if
• 1:19:24
  a situation, the situation was something like that, you know, it goes
• 1:19:27
  right back to if women are going to expect and demand proxy violence from men,
• 1:19:33
  and women do that as in mass like every time somebody, oh where
• 1:19:40
  were all the men when some woman has been in distress? Right? Um,
• 1:19:44
  If they're going to do that, then it's on women to be very
• 1:19:48
  careful stewards of of that proxy violence and to not put themselves in situations where
• 1:19:56
  they're borrowing trouble on his time. And you know, frankly, I don't
• 1:20:03
  think men, oh women that proxy violence. I think that is a form
• 1:20:09
  of slavery. Um. I don't think I could have made it any clearer
• 1:20:14
  than I did in the video I made in response to that country song that
• 1:20:17
  I hate so much. Um, But this is just uh, you know,
• 1:20:25
  if this is what it looks like just from the scant information that we
• 1:20:30
  have um, if it's what it looks like it could be, it didn't,
• 1:20:35
  you couldn't take a lesson from it. Don't. Yeah, you know,
• 1:20:40
  don't feel obligated, you know, don't feel obligated to confront, especially
• 1:20:45
  like from a three year old breakup. I'm sorry, but if you guys
• 1:20:49
  have been separated for three years, you know, don't go at ladies.
• 1:20:54
  Don't go asking a guy to go track down that asshole for you. If
• 1:20:58
  there's a problem three years later, because you're being stopped to go to the
• 1:21:00
  police, not your brother or your best buddy or any of that shit,
• 1:21:06
  because you're gonna get somebody killed and somebody jailed, right and if and the
• 1:21:13
  cops are paid to be your proxy violence. But if there's not a problem,
• 1:21:17
  then leave him the fuck alone and move on, because you're going to
• 1:21:21
  get somebody killed and somebody jailed. Like I have some common sense, and
• 1:21:27
  guys, don't put up with that shit. It's not your job. You
• 1:21:30
  don't have to do that. No, of course not. So we're gonna
• 1:21:34
  move on. Thing. One thing I'd like to mention real quick. You
• 1:21:39
  know, I just want to move away from Bob Lee, the founder of
• 1:21:42
  cash app. For one moment, and I want to talk about something completely
• 1:21:45
  random. The fed now service is going to be launching next month, and
• 1:21:50
  that's going to be instant payments through the Federal Reserve from person to person,
• 1:21:57
  and that's that's that's gonna be something that's going to be happening soon. And
• 1:22:00
  it's great that, like, you know, maybe one of their biggest competitors
• 1:22:03
  is not doing so hot because they just yeah, well, I mean many
• 1:22:08
  people say that this is going to be a building block towards the central baked
• 1:22:12
  digital currency. Yay, but you know, that's just completely rammed. I'm
• 1:22:15
  sorry I brought it up. I don't want to distract anybody from it.
• 1:22:18
  Let's let's get back to it. Brian. Sorry, very interesting news.
• 1:22:23
  Yeah, it is all right. Uh, we gotta move on. Let
• 1:22:26
  us know what you guys think about this in the comments. We're gonna move
• 1:22:29
  on to the last story. There could be one more, depending on you
• 1:22:32
  know, how we do. But we're gonna get into the last wee.
• 1:22:34
  We're gonna talk about women's depression. So a new Gallop survey reveals depression rates
• 1:22:43
  have skyrocketed for American adults. Of course, the article frames it as especially
• 1:22:47
  women Almost thirty percent of adults report being diagnosed with depression at some point in
• 1:22:53
  their lifetime, nearly ten percentage points higher than it was in twenty fifteen.
• 1:22:58
  The rates of depression are right fastest in women. Over one third of women
• 1:23:02
  are now reporting being are now report of being diagnosed with depression. Depression rates
• 1:23:08
  are also climbing amongst black and Hispanic adults, according to Gallop, now surpassing
• 1:23:13
  white respondents. While clinical depression was slowly rising in the US, it seems
• 1:23:17
  to have jumped, notably in the aftermath of guess what, the coup and
• 1:23:23
  the lockdowns. What I'm expressing, I'm expressing. You can't see it,
• 1:23:32
  Yeah, no, but I can feel it. Currently, seventeen percent of
• 1:23:36
  US adults report experiencing significant loneliness yesterday, projecting to an estimated forty four million
• 1:23:44
  people. According to Gallop quote, women have historically reported substantially higher levels of
• 1:23:49
  depression than men end quote, and that COVID impacted women worse, women,
• 1:23:55
  women worse guys? Did you know the coup affects women more? They claim.
• 1:24:00
  Women were disproportionately likely to lose their jobs or to exit the workforce altogether,
• 1:24:03
  due in part to the pandemic driving children home from school or daycare,
• 1:24:09
  and that because women make up seventy eight percent of workers in healthcare, they
• 1:24:13
  were exposed to enhanced emotional and psychological risk. While the Gallup survey focuses on
• 1:24:18
  the fastest growing rates of self reported depression diagnosis, the rate of suicide is
• 1:24:24
  still highest in middle aged white men. In twenty twenty, men died by
• 1:24:27
  suicide three point eight eight times more than women, and white men accounted for
• 1:24:32
  sixty nine point sixty eight percent of suicide death. And I can't see it.
• 1:24:39
  I can't see it. Yeah, no, I don't buy this idea
• 1:24:43
  that women sufferpression modern men, and no one, no should anyone else.
• 1:24:46
  The tricky thing about depressions as a term or as a concept is connected to
• 1:24:55
  such a term. It's similar to the tricky thing about gender dysphoria. It
• 1:25:00
  does exist as a clinical condition. Problem is, it's very easy to misdiagnose
• 1:25:08
  in others. It is very easy to misdiagnose in oneself. And it's very
• 1:25:12
  easy to simply fame or just straight up fake, you know, for attention,
• 1:25:18
  as an excuse for just not dealing with your ship, or just because
• 1:25:23
  it's the trendy fake disease to have in this day and age. A compounding
• 1:25:30
  problem with the term depression is it's ambiguous. It's it's it is something listed
• 1:25:34
  in the DSM as a medical condition brought on by, among other things,
• 1:25:40
  a chemical imbalance, but exactly the same term refers to an ordinary human condition
• 1:25:49
  a lot of other things that narcissism has similar ambiguities. Some people are pathologically
• 1:25:57
  narcissistic, like they they can't help doing it no matter what happens. But
• 1:26:01
  some people can be called narcissists sort of colloquially, but all they are is
• 1:26:06
  self centered cunts who will snap out of it as soon as they get a
• 1:26:12
  harsh reality check. But depression is even more ambiguous than that. It doesn't
• 1:26:18
  just refer to an ordinary human condition. It refers to an ordinary human emotion,
• 1:26:25
  as an ordinary reaction to one's current circumstances. Getting depressed in twenty twenty,
• 1:26:34
  particularly in the late stages of twenty twenty, is, I put it
• 1:26:39
  to you, not necessarily a medical condition. It's a perfectly normal reaction to
• 1:26:45
  a world that's gone completely insane and has locked you in your home, locked
• 1:26:50
  you out of your job, locked your own small business out of reality,
• 1:26:57
  all for extremely spure us reasons, and then held your life hostage over a
• 1:27:03
  medical procedure that evidently does nothing to fix anything. If you ask me,
• 1:27:10
  if anything, it's neurologically abnormal not to get at least a little bit depressed
• 1:27:16
  over a situation like that. There's that quote that's so often worth repeating.
• 1:27:25
  Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you
• 1:27:30
  are not, in fact simply surrounded by assholes. How can anyone have looked
• 1:27:34
  around themselves in the last three years and not concluded or at least considered that
• 1:27:41
  they are surrounded by assholes just the very least like on a global scale.
• 1:27:49
  Yeah, I mean at the same time, Yes, it stands to a
• 1:27:51
  reason that anyone who was perhaps on the brink of actual clinical depression was highly
• 1:28:00
  likely to have been pushed over the edge by the events of the last three
• 1:28:04
  years, which is to say nothing of the physical health conditions they've been mysteriously
• 1:28:11
  facing since the last two years. Obviously, those people need help, and
• 1:28:16
  that help needs to come from the petty tyrants who tormented them with this ruthless
• 1:28:24
  big brother future. I'm just saying it's quite probable that the condition most of
• 1:28:30
  these people are suffering is not a condition that should be diagnosed by a doctor
• 1:28:35
  or even a psychologist. It's a condition that anyone in their right mind would
• 1:28:40
  experience. No doctor should be diagnosing anyone with acute fear or chronic guilt,
• 1:28:49
  because these are not medical conditions that normal emotions, and you should be primarily
• 1:28:59
  looking to yourself for solace in such a situation. You should be looking to
• 1:29:03
  your friends and family and loved ones for solace in such a condition. You
• 1:29:08
  shouldn't. You certainly shouldn't be letting getting pop psychological advice from the very same
• 1:29:14
  quacks who pumped you full of experimental poison for no good reason. And yet
• 1:29:19
  to some degree, my recommendation is the same or similar as you know some
• 1:29:26
  randomer on the Internet who's user name is doctor. If you found yourself racked
• 1:29:32
  with acute fear in twenty twenty and you need someone else to blame, then
• 1:29:40
  your compensation should also come from the petty, lying tyrants who tormented you.
• 1:29:46
  Because they did, they tormented all of us. And if any of those
• 1:29:51
  lying tyrants in question ever truly realize what they've done and they find themselves experiencing
• 1:29:59
  chronic guilt. Well, you deserve it, you do. You deserve to
• 1:30:05
  suffer that ordinary human emotion for the rest of your lives. It's the least
• 1:30:11
  you can suffer, given that millions of paw counts with shite for blood are
• 1:30:15
  suffering, genuinely, biologically suffering for the rest of their lives because of you.
• 1:30:21
  And if that makes you depressed, fuck you, you deserve that too.
• 1:30:29
  My skepticism in regard to them, the difference in depression between men and
• 1:30:33
  women, it comes from some personal experience and healthcare and some personal experience as
• 1:30:42
  a as a patient, and there's a there's a phenomenon, and it's women
• 1:30:47
  are natural hypochondriacs. And if you aren't a natural hypochondriac as as a woman,
• 1:30:56
  it's okay. Your friends and female family members will just extend their hypochondria
• 1:31:04
  to you. Women have a tendency to pathologize everything. Everything's a mental illness,
• 1:31:10
  everything's a cold, everything's a injury, everything's, you know, a
• 1:31:14
  thousand times bigger than it really is. So I got diagnosed with depression when
• 1:31:18
  I was in high school, and I had situational depression, had symptoms of
• 1:31:25
  situational depression. But it was really more a situation that I hadn't talked about
• 1:31:31
  enough for anybody to treat it and anybody to help me through it. But
• 1:31:38
  I get diagnosed with clinical chemical imbalance based depression and drugged, and of course
• 1:31:44
  that that fucked me up, and they threw more drugs at me, and
• 1:31:46
  they never consider the possibility that maybe the patient isn't presenting symptoms accurately in mental
• 1:31:59
  health care, they just keep throwing more drugs at you. And the thing
• 1:32:02
  that women will do is, oh, okay, you give me another drug.
• 1:32:06
  I'll take that. You give me another drug, I'll take that.
• 1:32:10
  And it took getting to the point of like being the old lady that swallowed
• 1:32:14
  the fly of medicine for me and having a laundry list of side effects and
• 1:32:20
  damage from drug interactions, some of which led to permanent physical changes before before
• 1:32:29
  I was like, no, wait a minute, Like they're just they're just
• 1:32:31
  throwing darts at a dartboard here. I'm not actually getting medical treatment. Women
• 1:32:36
  will do that, right. Men will suffer in silence, Men will not
• 1:32:43
  trust because they see this shit happening, And why would you trust a system
• 1:32:48
  that does that? Yeah, why would they trust them. Women's functional and
• 1:32:58
  and honestly, like most of the dysfunction that the system is treating with women
• 1:33:02
  is put on. It's not that women don't have mental health conditions, it's
• 1:33:06
  it's that quite frequently, like women go in there with an idea of well
• 1:33:13
  it's this or it's that, and they get the diagnosis they want and boom,
• 1:33:16
  they're you know, they're getting drugs and and it's supposed to all be
• 1:33:20
  fixed, and then they get mad when it's not fixed. So there are
• 1:33:26
  men who are going through situational or chemical imbalance based depression that are not getting
• 1:33:32
  treated. This is why suicide among men is so much higher. When they
• 1:33:39
  do go in for treatment, they're not getting treated as men. They're they're
• 1:33:44
  getting treated as women, and they're not being taken seriously or they're being told
• 1:33:50
  that their problem has a different cause than it really has. You know,
• 1:33:54
  you can't you're not allowed to be depressed about being separated from your children and
• 1:33:58
  being left by your wife. That's that's boundary issues. That's toxic masculinity.
• 1:34:02
  You can't have that right. Um, that doesn't make you know, suicidal.
• 1:34:09
  So I I with this being self reported and everything. I think a
• 1:34:14
  lot of men are less likely to tell a survey that they deserve a diagnosis
• 1:34:19
  or have a diagnosis because they haven't reported it to a doctor, or they
• 1:34:26
  don't believe in it, or they don't trust the diagnosis, whereas a lot
• 1:34:30
  of women are are going to be like, oh, yes, I'm so
• 1:34:33
  stressed. I have to, you know, lose my favorite coffee shop and
• 1:34:39
  I had to drive an extra ten minutes to get to another one to get
• 1:34:42
  my my my What is a pumpkin spice double latte with with fat free coconut
• 1:34:49
  milk or whatever whatever you know? Oh yeah, and that's the same level
• 1:34:57
  of um. Women will treat that like it's the same level of pain and
• 1:35:00
  suffering as the guy that is separated from his children and has been left by
• 1:35:05
  his wife. And their doctor will as well, and they'll report it to
• 1:35:10
  this survey. So I just have a lot of skepticism in regard to the
• 1:35:16
  actual rates of depression and everything. And I also want to say something about
• 1:35:19
  the healthcare thing. Notice you got to pay attention to this the wording,
• 1:35:25
  all right, and the women make up seventy eight percent of workers in in
• 1:35:30
  healthcare. Well, guys, I'm in healthcare. I got three weeks of
• 1:35:36
  training for my job. That's it. There's no college education, there's no
• 1:35:41
  degree. My certification takes three weeks of education. I have to re up
• 1:35:45
  my CPR training and my medpast certification annually. That's an eight hour class for
• 1:35:51
  each of those things. Right, that's at sixteen hours of training a year,
• 1:35:56
  and I qualify to do my job, all right. Not a doctor,
• 1:36:01
  right, not a nurse even, not even a licensed practical nurse.
• 1:36:05
  That's eighteen months of university training. Okay. My exposure was to people who
• 1:36:13
  were not allowed in Ohio. People with intellectual disabilities were pretty much put in
• 1:36:19
  lockdown. They weren't allowed to go anywhere. Their day programs were shut down,
• 1:36:24
  right, they weren't allowed to go to any gatherings. Rules that didn't
• 1:36:28
  apply to everybody else applied to them, and it was it was mandated that
• 1:36:34
  they would be vaccinated. Right. So that was that was actually a ruling
• 1:36:40
  that was made by all right, not a ruling, but um executive order
• 1:36:46
  from our governor's office. So there was if they're going to claim that there
• 1:36:55
  was any emotional and psychological risk there, because they didn't say they were exposed
• 1:37:00
  to infectious disease risk. Right, emotional and psychological risk. Yeah, because
• 1:37:10
  the overwhelming majority of women in healthcare are nurses, aids, and direct support
• 1:37:16
  professionals. Right, then there are licensed practical nurses and nurses. And the
• 1:37:24
  higher you climb on the ladder of healthcare, the more you get to where
• 1:37:30
  men go when they go into healthcare. When men go into healthcare, they
• 1:37:32
  go into the most proactive elements they can, or the most lucrative elements they
• 1:37:38
  can, or both. Right, infectious disease specialists were more likely to be
• 1:37:44
  men. You known, men do the dirty jobs. Even in medical care.
• 1:37:48
  A gastroenterologist is almost exclusively likely to be a man. Yeah right,
• 1:37:56
  that's a it's a it's a shitty job. Just just saying, but yeah,
• 1:38:04
  that's the guy that sticks the camera up your ass if they think you
• 1:38:08
  might have colon cancer, Just so you know, but yeah, I like
• 1:38:12
  So it's again claiming that women are more likely to be depressed, claiming that
• 1:38:18
  women are in a more stressful position. It's all bullshit. You watch watch
• 1:38:24
  the language that is being used to describe this. It's buzzwords, not specificity.
• 1:38:30
  And and remember that this is self reported and women are more likely to
• 1:38:34
  be to feel comfortable complaining, and they are more likely to be taken seriously
• 1:38:42
  when they complain, and then they're also more likely to receive a diagnosis and
• 1:38:46
  treatment as a result of that. It doesn't mean women are more likely to
• 1:38:53
  be depressed, and the difference in suicide rate demonstrates that very clearly. Yes,
• 1:39:00
  Okay, does anyone else have any thoughts on this about depression? Okay,
• 1:39:04
  then I'm gonna go ahead and make this sauce as a little extra long
• 1:39:09
  because I do want to. I want to mention the last thing that I
• 1:39:12
  found. So, um, let's move on to the next story. Uh,
• 1:39:18
  guess who's back from back again? Zoe's back. Tell a friend so
• 1:39:26
  IDW, which is a comic publisher. They used to be well, they
• 1:39:31
  used to print the Image comics and I think now IDW a image and they've
• 1:39:35
  split off and done other things. They have hired Zoe Quinn to write a
• 1:39:41
  Wednesday Adams comic. Who whoa this is gonna be bad? Zoe literally?
• 1:39:48
  Who? Oh yeah? Yeah? Literally who? Literally? Literally? Um
• 1:39:54
  she is writing so you guys might have seen it, might not. There
• 1:39:59
  was a couple I think there were two but I could be wrong. Of
• 1:40:02
  Adam's Family like animated films that came out recently, they were like three D
• 1:40:08
  animated and made to look more like the original strip that they were based on.
• 1:40:13
  And they're right. She is writing a story about Wednesday specifically because of
• 1:40:17
  course. And they have a sort of a synopsis of the first issue called
• 1:40:25
  well It's Adams Family Body's Issue number one And I just want to give you
• 1:40:30
  guys the synopsis of this, and this is Zoe Quinn's idea. Say so,
• 1:40:36
  Wednesday Adams doesn't feel like she fits in anywhere, not even at home.
• 1:40:41
  After she discovers a beauty magazine in her uncle Fester's room that tells her
• 1:40:45
  all about how she should look an act. It doesn't keep her down for
• 1:40:49
  long, however, as she quickly realizes that rather than change herself, it
• 1:40:54
  would be more fun to make over her family and force them to accept the
• 1:40:58
  societal norms they all normally reject. The IDW one shot, this spinoff from
• 1:41:03
  the animated The Adams Family movie, features all your favorite characters, including Gomez,
• 1:41:09
  Mortisham, Pugsley, Lurched, the Thing or Thing not the Thing,
• 1:41:12
  and of course Wednesday, featuring a New maccab cover by China China, Cloaks
• 1:41:16
  and Flores. This cooks off a whole new run of comics featuring the creepy
• 1:41:19
  Kookie altogether spooky Adams Family. So yeah, go ahead. It's funny how
• 1:41:26
  they accuse us of wanting to live in the fifties. You'll recall the Adams
• 1:41:30
  Family was first devised. I don't know if it's the fifties or the sixties,
• 1:41:33
  but the original Adams Family show was devised in the fifties, back in
• 1:41:39
  the days when goths weren't a thing. Yeah, when when there wasn't a
• 1:41:45
  clique in every high school of goths, but you could easily belong to if
• 1:41:50
  if you feel like being a goth, Like you can't in this day and
• 1:41:55
  age, say oh I'm a goth. There's there's no one I can befriend.
• 1:42:00
  There's there's there's no small community of like minded people who dress exactly the
• 1:42:04
  fucking same as me and think exactly the same as me in every high school
• 1:42:10
  in every community in the western world. Yeah, like, and no,
• 1:42:16
  you're living in the fifties where way, where you have no one to talk
• 1:42:20
  to when you clearly do not not the Zoe Quinn's even a fucking goth.
• 1:42:27
  She's a blue head, fucking narcissist, and she she hasked a considerable community
• 1:42:32
  of people to talk to. I mean, are any goth's going to complain
• 1:42:35
  about cultural appropriation here? No, that's that's that's not what a real goths
• 1:42:43
  do. And I will I will say, if you are under thirty,
• 1:42:49
  maybe even hundred forty and your parents aren't goth, you aren't either. M
• 1:42:58
  there is no such thing as a goth. There are young emos, but
• 1:43:03
  there are no young goths. You don't have the conditions to be goth.
• 1:43:10
  Well, none of us have sucked rome in the fifth century, but eighties
• 1:43:15
  goth that was a totally different thing. Have to be visibly go asio if
• 1:43:21
  you will, you goose. Those conditions haven't existed. Those those conditions,
• 1:43:30
  the conditions under which people got labeled goths for wearing dark clothes and listening to
• 1:43:35
  increasingly depressing death metal and uh, you know, smoking pot and talking about
• 1:43:44
  how dark the world was getting by the way being right. Um, yeah,
• 1:43:53
  those those those conditions are gone and they're never coming back, So get
• 1:44:00
  over it, move on, start your own damn clique, you know,
• 1:44:04
  start start your own counterculture. Right. There are also no hippies, like
• 1:44:13
  under the age of sixty. If you're under sixty years old and you call
• 1:44:15
  yourself a hippie, you are full of shit. Well, I think the
• 1:44:21
  thing is is that Zoe's not trying to sell herself off as a goth.
• 1:44:27
  I think that this is like what feminists always do. They take something established,
• 1:44:31
  they co opt it, and they turn it into something completely different,
• 1:44:35
  Like she's wearing the skin of Wednesdays. And the thing is too, that's
• 1:44:42
  feminists are skinwalkers. Yeah, they are. And the thing is this is
• 1:44:45
  this is really important at least to me as a person who is interested in
• 1:44:49
  the arts and creativity. Nothing in that synopsis reflects Wednesday Adams or the Adams
• 1:44:56
  family, like have you if you have act read the strip? So there.
• 1:45:01
  It originally was a comic strip, okay, that had these you know
• 1:45:04
  what, three four panels to tell a quick little joke and that was the
• 1:45:09
  end of it. So there was no plot. It did not develop,
• 1:45:13
  The characters didn't change, they didn't get older, nothing like that. It
• 1:45:15
  was supposed to be gags and that's it, right. It was based in
• 1:45:19
  something kind of macab but it always like walked that mine of you know,
• 1:45:25
  like there was always implied things, but never like outright you know, uh
• 1:45:30
  stated things. And then the movies did they carried the same spirit, and
• 1:45:33
  the television show from the sixties carried the same spirit into it. And what
• 1:45:40
  Zoe's doing is she's taking a character Wednesday, which by the way, before
• 1:45:45
  Christina Ricci played her, really didn't do much like if you she was like
• 1:45:49
  the least important character in the family originally, but whatever, you know,
• 1:45:57
  Christina Ricci gave the character life. That's that's like she's a favorite basically one
• 1:46:00
  of minds too. But the whole thing was just gangs. We're talking about
• 1:46:03
  a family that lives its life backwards that essentially, compared to regular society,
• 1:46:09
  they don't fit in, right um, And she is claiming in this this
• 1:46:15
  idea is that Wednesday doesn't feel like she fits in, which again makes no
• 1:46:20
  sense because the whole point is that the whole family doesn't fit in. They're
• 1:46:25
  different from everybody else. So like that, yeahs anyone seen that, Yeah
• 1:46:33
  I didn't. She actually goes to a school of people who don't fit in.
• 1:46:41
  Like yeah, it's like somebody thought, well, if we just capitalize
• 1:46:45
  on the popularity of the Harry Potter stuff. We could, you know,
• 1:46:51
  we take the Adams family and sort of mingle it together with the Harry Potter
• 1:46:55
  stuff. We could make something that everybody would like and the character was kind
• 1:47:00
  of cool that there were there were some things in it that were kind of
• 1:47:02
  cool and and everything, but it sort of went down that path of of
• 1:47:09
  um. There's a thing that's been happening for quite a while right that,
• 1:47:16
  you know, woke idealogues have been sort of capitalizing on like of of um
• 1:47:24
  fanfic writers thinking that that being decent or good at fanfic makes them real writers.
• 1:47:35
  It doesn't. It doesn't make you a real writer. It makes you
• 1:47:39
  very good at expanding on somebody else's work in a way that people might enjoy.
• 1:47:45
  And as long as you admit that's what you're doing, that's okay,
• 1:47:50
  Like there's not something wrong with that. It's you know, that's your creativity
• 1:47:57
  at work. But what you're doing is an original. You are expanding on
• 1:48:02
  someone else's work and it's not a whole new invention, and you're not the
• 1:48:10
  same as somebody who created a character and setting and a storyline and built other
• 1:48:18
  characters around that that main character and you know and whatever had had a thing
• 1:48:25
  that we're going to communicate with this and so on, and didn't borrow somebody
• 1:48:30
  else's already created format to use to tell it. And unfortunately, because our
• 1:48:36
  society has kind of accepted over the last maybe twenty years or so, this
• 1:48:43
  idea that professional fan fiction is as good as new things, or at least
• 1:48:50
  as good as creativity, real creativity, we've now got a situation where we
• 1:48:57
  have to accept when it's bad, like when it's poorly done, absolute shit,
• 1:49:04
  and when politics are inserted into it and a complete bastardization of the thing
• 1:49:12
  that the person would have been expanding on if they were a good fan fick
• 1:49:15
  writer. But they're not no expanding on anybody's anything. They're just taking the
• 1:49:23
  name and one popular detail about it and completely twisting it into something else that
• 1:49:30
  it never was and never should have been. Well that's I think that's where
• 1:49:33
  that's what we're seeing here, Yeah, trying to make Wednesday into a feminist
• 1:49:38
  icon like they they've already they've already done this with you know, there was
• 1:49:43
  a YouTube channel, I don't know if it still exists called adult Wednesday Adams,
• 1:49:45
  and that girl that plays her in those sketches is totally a feminist because
• 1:49:51
  she every episode is about some kind of feminist talking point, like you know,
• 1:49:56
  like a sexual harassment or the way that men know are entitled to women's
• 1:50:00
  bodies and shit like that. And I'm like, this doesn't make sense.
• 1:50:03
  This character is not like this like that, you know, this is she
• 1:50:08
  They're weird on purpose. They're macabre on a different level. And it's got
• 1:50:12
  nothing to do with rights. It's got nothing to do with politics. And
• 1:50:15
  so like was upset about something, Yeah, just take and put them in
• 1:50:23
  a girly magazine in Uncle Fester's room. Why the fuck would he have that?
• 1:50:28
  Like like it already assumes that even the men in the family are bad
• 1:50:32
  men. All that's that's a way of making Uncle Fester creepy. Yeah,
• 1:50:40
  but not in like the sort of charming fun he was. It's like that's
• 1:50:45
  another thing, right this And I'm going to take this back to the previous
• 1:50:48
  story about depression very briefly. I will bet you the people did that interview
• 1:50:54
  didn't seek out any in cells, just saying probably not, but they would
• 1:50:59
  compare them go faster to end cells. Of course, although he did have
• 1:51:03
  a he didn't have a woman in uh one at least one. Yeah,
• 1:51:08
  and she was she was, she was a black widow, no less.
• 1:51:14
  Yeah, but I think that was actually based off of m episodes from the
• 1:51:17
  show where her uncle Fuster was looking for a girlfriend or a wife or something.
• 1:51:21
  It's been a long time since I've watched the original show. It was
• 1:51:24
  a little kid, remember that. Anyone want to explore Pugsley as it gets
• 1:51:29
  older, what goes on with him? Because he was he was just a
• 1:51:32
  normal kid who I guess in does a masochism with his sister, Like he
• 1:51:42
  was the one who received the pain. Well, she was the one who
• 1:51:45
  delivered the pain, I guess, I guess, and won't give a shit
• 1:51:47
  about Pugsley, which would make him something of a countercultural icon if anyone give
• 1:51:51
  a shit. Yeah, yeah, they don't really do anything with him.
• 1:51:57
  But but yeah, here's that. That's kind of like my My point is
• 1:52:00
  is that, uh, you know, Quinn is going to well she is
• 1:52:04
  in the process of trying to co opt this character without understanding anything about it.
• 1:52:11
  Because really, the best thing you can do with the Adams family is
• 1:52:14
  tell more of these short quippy, you know, stories that sort of like
• 1:52:18
  point at the absurdity of this family. That's what makes it funny. Like
• 1:52:23
  watch the old watch the Role Julia movie with Christina Ricci, and tell me
• 1:52:28
  if the plot even matters. I know there is one because it's still a
• 1:52:30
  movie, but tell me if it even matters, Like when everything is resolved,
• 1:52:34
  you know, uh, like literally nothing changes because you're not supposed to
• 1:52:39
  care about that. You're supposed to laugh at the gags so exactly, which
• 1:52:44
  they do very well. One of the things that um that I've noticed whenever
• 1:52:49
  these these people get in and they and they take an existing IP and they
• 1:52:56
  they they don't want they're not in rested in the IP. No, they're
• 1:53:01
  not interested in in continuing the story. Unbelievable pattern. They want to talk
• 1:53:06
  about themselves through something, yes, and they want to take someone has a
• 1:53:12
  lot of popularity to do it. Yes, And then that's exactly they as
• 1:53:16
  Sargon has said, they donned the progressive skin suit of this thing that has
• 1:53:21
  an appeal, that has a baked in audience and goes, why don't you
• 1:53:26
  love this thing? It looks just like the thing you love, you know,
• 1:53:30
  even though it's it's merely acting. Is my therapy session? Yeah,
• 1:53:34
  I foisting upon everyone. They ever wonder what happened to the monsters. The
• 1:53:40
  monsters was obviously, I mean, there was a rip off of the Adams
• 1:53:45
  family. Let's face it, Oh the monsters. See the problem? What
• 1:53:47
  the monsters was that they were a family that loved each other that just happened
• 1:53:54
  to be weird looking. Well, they were all weird except except they're highly
• 1:54:00
  deformed. The girl was the normal one. How weird is it that that
• 1:54:08
  hasn't taken off, because, you know, because then they'd have to go
• 1:54:11
  like because then they'd have to work on on the premise that the that the
• 1:54:15
  girl is the normal one. And feminists can't handle that because feminists want to
• 1:54:20
  believe that women are the exception, the most exceptional exception, the one that
• 1:54:27
  doesn't feel like she belongs, even in a family that doesn't belong. And
• 1:54:30
  that's why the Monsters never took off, even it's even especially in the age
• 1:54:36
  of feminism, because because feminists have to believe that women are the exception of
• 1:54:44
  the diamond in the rough. As I do know, there was a twenty
• 1:54:48
  twenty two Munsters movie, right that was a rob zombie thing. Yeah,
• 1:54:54
  it was one of the worst movies that Yeah, it was. Yeah,
• 1:55:00
  well it was it was Rob Zombie. Yeah. Well the thing is what
• 1:55:04
  the Munsters the only this is the way it has to work is and Rob
• 1:55:09
  Zombie is not capable of doing this because the only thing he knows how to
• 1:55:11
  do is dysfunction. Um. The Munster's family was the tightest knit nuclear family,
• 1:55:18
  like like it was based on you know, like the most like the
• 1:55:23
  I'm sorry, the least the most functional or least dysfunctional family. It just
• 1:55:28
  so happened that they were monsters, but they loved each other. It wasn't
• 1:55:30
  like the Adams Is where they were you know, you got this sense that
• 1:55:34
  like they're always plotting to like kill each other or torture each other, and
• 1:55:38
  they got and they enjoyed it like they were they got into it. No,
• 1:55:42
  the Munsters were not like that. They were like like the Brady Bunch
• 1:55:45
  or some other loving family. They just happened to be monsters. So the
• 1:55:48
  only way you could do it is you would have to you'd have to present
• 1:55:53
  them as a functional family where there's no you know, there's no abuse,
• 1:55:57
  there's no dysfunction, there's nothing weird going on, but they also are you
• 1:56:01
  know, Universal Studios monsters, And I don't think that Hollywood can do that
• 1:56:06
  because you have to give us a family that loves each other, you know,
• 1:56:12
  um and uh that yeah, that's the only way that work. Anyway,
• 1:56:15
  You wouldn't be able to find anybody to replace most of those actors like
• 1:56:18
  Fred gwyn and the guy who played Grandpa. Um, good luck with that.
• 1:56:24
  Maybe de Vito that might work possible. What one of the things.
• 1:56:29
  I think it's really sad that I think the Adams family really could make a
• 1:56:32
  comeback in current year because they're they're they're they're transgressive now, but for all
• 1:56:41
  the opposite reasons, Like you look at them when they came out, you
• 1:56:44
  know, in the nineties, is gonna get this I'm gonna get this name
• 1:56:47
  wrong in the or I'm gonna get this date wrong. In the fifties and
• 1:56:50
  sixties, the people of the sixties are like, Wow, what a what
• 1:56:57
  a weird what a strange family they they have, you know, strange pets,
• 1:57:01
  and they all dressed in black, and they're so mccabb and the and
• 1:57:05
  violence and oh man, this is nuts. And then current year would be
• 1:57:09
  the same area, well, a similar reaction. People would look and go,
• 1:57:12
  Wow, what a strange family, what a crazy family. They love
• 1:57:15
  each other there, the mother and father are still together. They have two
• 1:57:20
  children that that both seem to love and admire them. How crazy is that
• 1:57:25
  No one does that? Yeah, you're right, that would be weird.
• 1:57:30
  And by the ways, props to Jenny Ortega, by the way, who
• 1:57:34
  played Wednesday and Wednesday. Yeah, because apparently she pushed back. She got
• 1:57:41
  a lot of shit for it from not just from writers, not just from
• 1:57:45
  writers and the people she worked with from like literal like fucking podcasters that do
• 1:57:48
  reviews and shows. Like they were basically calling her toxic because she wanted to
• 1:57:54
  be as true to the character as possible yea, even though they wanted to
• 1:57:57
  give her a lesbian love interest. And her response to that was simply,
• 1:58:00
  Wednesday doesn't do love interests. She doesn't do love right. This is definitely
• 1:58:06
  uh like, obviously she's a true professional um And and this is where like
• 1:58:14
  when you hear um a woman getting called toxic by these people, by the
• 1:58:19
  Wolke mob, it's almost always for being accountable or well, in this instance,
• 1:58:30
  I mean that that's accountable, like she is when you are an entertainer
• 1:58:33
  who portrays an existing character, you are a steward of um, the trueness
• 1:58:42
  of the character. Right, you can actually either warp that character in response
• 1:58:47
  to request or demands, or you can you can gate keep that character and
• 1:58:54
  say, wait a minute, no, this this, this character would never
• 1:58:57
  do this. And it takes a true professional to care enough about what they're
• 1:59:03
  doing to to fight back against demands to to make those more changes in everything.
• 1:59:11
  Yeah, that's why. And we need we need more Andry cavils.
• 1:59:19
  Yeah, we need more. We need more gena ortegas, and we need
• 1:59:24
  more Henry Cavils. And I have to wonder how often because when they say
• 1:59:29
  toxic when it's a woman, and when it's a man, they treat him
• 1:59:31
  like he's aggressive and frightening, yeah, harassing and stuff like that. And
• 1:59:39
  I have to wonder how often, um, you know, like either woke's
• 1:59:43
  or women in general, like feminist in particular, treat a man as though
• 1:59:48
  he's aggressive and threatening when he's actually just being accountable. YEA, well,
• 1:59:58
  I just want that. I gotta share this one thing. A lot of
• 2:00:02
  people don't know. I learned this a couple of weeks ago and it's it's
• 2:00:05
  really great. Um So. In the ninety one Adams Family movie The Angel,
• 2:00:12
  Jelica Houston Rawl Juliet Christopher Lloyd One Pugsley is played by an actor named
• 2:00:18
  Jimmy Workman. I don't expect anyone to know that name. But he's a
• 2:00:24
  guy. You know, even though you might not know him. If you've
• 2:00:28
  ever seen the stereotypical Podora Neckbeard Pitcher, oh no, that's the same guy.
• 2:00:35
  Oh shit, dude, I put it in live show. I put
• 2:00:39
  it in ye. I gotta share this and it's funny. He didn't even
• 2:00:45
  know he was a meme and then he he learned from he learned of it,
• 2:00:48
  and he's like, this is great. I love this. I love
• 2:00:51
  that I'm I'm famous again. And apparently the um the story of this comes
• 2:00:56
  from. Uh. He was doing some head shots because he was a child
• 2:01:00
  actor initially, and you know, he was an actor later in life as
• 2:01:05
  well, and he was taking some heads He was doing some head shots because
• 2:01:09
  of course, you know, you're your noble in Hollywood unless you have some
• 2:01:11
  head shots to pass around. Get your name out there, get your face
• 2:01:15
  out there. Yeah, and he did it with with a friend and the
• 2:01:18
  friends like a, well, we got a couple of pictures on the role
• 2:01:20
  left and he's like, let's just do some funny ones. Oh god,
• 2:01:24
  and this was one of the funny ones. That's amazing, that's funny.
• 2:01:28
  That's the same dude. Guys. Yes, he is the Fedora guy,
• 2:01:32
  Hugsy the Reddit uh, the Reddit guy. All right, um, thanks,
• 2:01:41
  that was a nice bit of trivia I did not know about. He's
• 2:01:44
  he's going to be remembered long after Christian Richie is dead and buried. Yes,
• 2:01:49
  he's immortal. He's immortalized now. So we're gonna go into the after
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