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Ep 198 - "Scores to Settle" Saints vs Bears Week 7 Preview · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag no music, no intro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saint's block party, podcast, coming off an amazing, amazing time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spent with friends, community in New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam, join by my guy, Wolf aka Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already got the cut wire open as I was waiting for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my, my, my, my liver is like, damn, it's like, I, I, I drink, I drink, I drink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as much as I've drunk since the last meetup we had last year.
0:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not saying, but saying, but these, the meetups popping and you and New Orleans and it is what it is.
0:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We did want to apologize a little bit in regards to the recap pod that we did in New Orleans.
1:00
[SPEAKER_00]: After the Patriots game, I think we cut out about 10 to 13 minutes of the pod.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just for the technical difficulties I don't it was I don't know if it was an internet issue would have you but that's what it is when you're literally live and you know recording a hotel with a whole community so I just want to again before we dive into this revenge game Saints in Chicago this is a coin weekend going against the bears just
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, just say how truly amazing it was, you know, I got back in, we, me and Jacob, back in last, last evening, a lot of people got in back in for their home on Monday, but it truly is special what we've been able to to build over these five plus years in the community that we have.
1:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And every time, every time it's over, it's like, oh man, like, oh, I don't know man, like, damn I miss my dogs, man.
1:59
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just cool, bro, it's crazy, like, you know, it's like, unlike it, man, like, I don't know, like, I can't really compare.
2:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really anything, maybe I could compare to college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit in college, like I just a big crew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we just used to do it up, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there remind me of that a little bit, but it's just really nothing like the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pushing for a bra.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm shaming people like I want like 80.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I hate people coming to a bra.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want like I want to do a big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pushing for a bra.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I, if we, you push an 80, can I just get, can I get my dude Rick and Luke out of
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean so many brown so many we need Nick like Nick Nick there's been you know Nicholas Nicholas you know we've been following on Twitter for a long time I'm I'm shame in people nation because like I know why they come and I know they feel like keeping people on the internet
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell you man, not like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how people meet meeting their spouses and Hello, it's like that's all it took you to meet me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's true that is true
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to be a part of this community, again, simple as patreon.com slash length spot party or YouTube member for an any nine a month with YouTube member.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Low is a dollar a month with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Patreon literally just a small world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a new Patreon scooter joined the night of the meet-up party Come to find out he lives like 30 40 minutes away from me like in Los Angeles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it Oh, man, and he just set up the school to make it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just it broke a vibe to him So yeah good vibe fit right in absolutely absolutely did um, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: All that aside, we're presented by our guy, precious works, L.O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, what's week seven, bro?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is crazy, it's week seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is week seven, and the same state at one in five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be remissed a flea before the preview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just so tired, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: so tired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to stick with the facts on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for whatever it is, after two strong games and just his plate overall, this discourse about Spencer Rattler,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, what he is or what he isn't, I'm fed up with it, Wolf, I'm fed up with it, we're not, I'm fed up with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like as Saints fans, as Saints fans, they cast in on a lottery ticket and got a quarterback in the fifth round.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe at minimum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as shown to at least give you top 20 quarterback play in a second year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At minimum, just just that minimum is national starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, no starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the game that he turned in to get to the Patriots last game, we were there, I said it, one of his, if not his best game as the same, like complete, complete game, complete control in the offense and had a couple of plays went differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His numbers would have looked drastically different, that really wasn't on his, on his, on his fall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have so many people after these last two games in a national media,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that just want to make sure that not just it's not just us like, and I know I feel like some of it is blowback from the whole hashtag of the agenda from last year and since then all this season we have been trying to cover it as just very, very impartial down the fucking spirit down the middle print.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, how many you had mean of this week, she's going to say something on it tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greg Rotten thought multiple people saying that they were like man, this point man, the same for them to let's start building around him whether that's true or not Brett Cole home in whatever game like people that have like no No like bias for the science no Not that fact opposite probably like they thought you know, they thought the same to be triaged this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but I mean still it's like People that have no bias no reason to be like biased
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[SPEAKER_00]: like that, like seconds found something, and this may have been a little high hyperbole, even Stephen, where he's of the ringer, he did a 2024 read draft of the quarterback from last year's draft, and his article, he had that the Vikings should have, should draft Mr. Rattler, over JJ McCarthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had it going like 10th of a row, like, hit the ball, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it looks crazy, but I mean, you plug, it's a rail on it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, better than JT, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better than JT, look, I look JT only.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Play like a game and I have whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just saying it, I'm just saying it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you, you, blouse, and that's all we're saying, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, nobody's saying, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd like to say, like Spencer is cute beer in the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's air-parent, the jubries is going to take the same as to the promised land for the next 10 to 15 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I don't want you to sit for the first time as a Saintsman, like the development of a young quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never gotten seated as a Saintsman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because of the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jack DeLone went to the Panthers, and had a very great ass career of the Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they go to the Super Bowl with technology, though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get up versus the Patriots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Panthers...
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just reap the benefits of the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're drafting the loan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't work out what the Saints get straighted or free agent with the Panthers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And develops into, and this is, and this is where the whole debate comes in is this term franchise quarter-panel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where it's all getting people all up and arms about, and if you want to talk about,
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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, franchise quarterback, to me means the quarterback is not a position you have to worry about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is to me is what franchise quarterback means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference between a franchise quarterback that is when because of and a franchise quarterback that is when with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Burrow, and then the two that you can debate is like Herbert and Dac.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are those are debatable, but wherever you want to put them, those six are considered potentially when because of quarterbacks and franchise quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, for love, Jalen Hertz, while very good, while very good at
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I think he might be, he might go in the first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the first one, it's the first one, it's the first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the first one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those are quarterbacks that are still franchise quarterbacks, but you tend to make the argument that they're win with quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But both are fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I feel like this is where the whole thing is getting mixed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Safe fans, can y'all just enjoy the ride?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can y'all just enjoy the ride?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go to the ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruh!
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just keep saying like, realize where we are as a franchise right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just step back and realize it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's not the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know, but right now you're getting solid quarterback play on a completely rebuilt team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just seeing where it goes, where it leaves you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you could do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no quick answer right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have Jane Day was walking through the building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying, Drake, me walking through the building right now is just like those answers just aren't readily available right now right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have his spits around in Tyler's shop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the options available right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got a quarterback draft class coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very questionable, nothing, nothing you could guarantee coming up in that class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are the answers that you have right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, just enjoy the ride, see where it takes you, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is, that's, I'm enjoying the ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm just enjoying just every week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just, they like to see Spencer rather just, like, doing these film studies every week, getting to see like the incremental progress he's making.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and improvements he's making in so many different areas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are very key areas and still have questions, like there's still questions that need to be answered about them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Levels like he's still like having to hit these benchmarks as people move forward through the season in order to know if he is the future at night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But everybody's just itching for that answer right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know, is he the truth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he true?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he shook?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go, see, like, we, we will fired up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we don't know right now, man, but he's reaching those little bitch benchmark slowly but surely, but they're still like, from the goal before we really know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, and it's just the, in the Tyler Shug thing, what we talked about it in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Tyler Shug would have won that quarterback competition, he'd be starting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would be starting and at this point like again, it's it's it's obviously like it's the it's the whole season But the last special last two games like this notion to start shook like do you know how much the locker room would turn Oncoming if you would put the truck out there And like and I had to tweet it like this is not this is not a negative or anything about Talish We have no idea what he could be at quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be asked
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he didn't win the quarterback competition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kept trying to tell people, it was not close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You only had pre-season to go up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you knew how those practices went, it wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So some practices, not even the media, so, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it just wasn't close, man, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much you need to see when Kelli Moore, the guy who paying pick Tyler shook, is telling you what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He selected Tyler shook, so it's like, it's really, it's all been fan and media driven, like this whole notion like, you know, this week to week like, oh, I'm being a happy to game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think, we're having a bad enough, you know, when we'll suck coming, we will suck committee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's two games left to say, three games left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's completely driven by us, like fans, and media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The culture staff isn't thinking like that right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying that Chuck might not come in at some point in the season, we'll see, but they're thinking like, OK, we got solid quarterback play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep building on that and keep trying to improve this team to get to the point to win some games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where they go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, in the meantime, where we are with the young roster,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's been out there a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for what you sort of put star over it out there, putting young safety's out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It started to tweak a little bit to get young players on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'd be listening to trade offers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, they're doing kind of what the same's on supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a rebuild, in a rebuild, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: CJ and the chat said, wait, I never heard that it wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was close all the way through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you knew listening to CJ, but if you've been listening to this podcast, you would know that that quarterback competition was not close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can go back and listen to the episode that we did when Rattler was named QB1 wasn't close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Louisiana kind of this gets in getting into the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had to rank Chicago's defense is based on the difficulty that we face this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do y'all rank them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're two, I think they're the third from the bottom with the last two being the Patriots and the Bills in that order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coaching wise, I would have them at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because of who they're different to coordinator is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, they they lose daily in jail in Johnson, they're starting, you know, starting corner for the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've been kind of rabbits with injuries, but even listening to Kevin's processor didn't even realize that their defense has the like the most takeaways in NFL or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be an interesting chess match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our guy, Justin Cash, is this Pete Warner get traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also thought some of the same straight rumors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good little segue, because I want to talk about straight rumors and things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say it again on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The trade deadline is November 2nd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much every veteran on the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and keep work better and is on the team is available to trade for the right offer for the right offer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That includes, Chris, a lot of it, that includes, for she's she heed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there are some people that you can maybe argue that, oh, maybe if we could get brand it, it cooks out of here, we can get tomorrow, David's out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that they're actively looking to trade those players, but in terms of just some rebuild, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: team won't trade, and I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but the team won't move those players because of a weird, I don't know, but I like the sweared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The brand of cookman is interesting, because I know like perfect, the giants are interested in, and I've tweeted this all three of the same, it's right receivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but they may hold on to cooks and I was told like it might be because of loyalty and I'm like, y'all realize y'all brought him back, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has not been a thing from start to finish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, why not just get off that 7.7 million?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks a good locker room guy, don't you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what, and that's what I see in the background, I don't feel an in zone when they do sports touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I think it cooks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It cooks out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That went down there, and I've got a growth, growth, growth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About people on her, I haven't heard this, but I know that he's, I know he's available for trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that teams are interested in him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, when I was at the game, just game, when we got the game on Sunday, and I saw Stutsman get out there for a series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hmm, and then Stahlberg was in there too a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it wouldn't, I guess I had to do like a list of players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think are most likely to get traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we talked about this on the recap part, but just to do it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, sorry, I almost said spent because I looked at the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Pete wanted to top of the list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do get a sense that she feed might be a little higher on the list than people think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan, I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the expectation is the things to be selling at the trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They might, they might trade for a player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know the sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've already what that, I mean, it trades at the mid 20 for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, it's ready for play on I. Oh, I'm on RL, so no, yeah, like, 100% like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I was thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, who would, who would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to trade for a player right now, just because we're likely to be picking top five in the draft, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want all of our picks, but I was thinking, like, who would I actually like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Jill, Jill, you know, the past was out of Miami, Jill Phillips.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's available.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 100% available.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I still got a little draft Chris, a little room in some of my draft press.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We both in there, I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So where's the just past roaster, Dramaine Johnson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dramaine Johnson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's muddled in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know, something about giving up picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you need to treat them picks like go right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to be getting picks, not giving away picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at least right now, maybe, maybe, you know, come to all season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe you, you know, you look at everything, you look at the draft class and all that, maybe you could better assess what type of moves you could make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really interested to see if a player gets moved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a player will get moved off the stage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Pete Warren just feels like, man, he was playing hard to have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know it just stood out to be like, when you got to take your own field, it came back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just hit next to a hole up, right?
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was filling the type of weed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was filling the type of weed about that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said it from the very beginning, other horrible extension, probably like, what the hell?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one can ever, no one can ever tell me.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: like the logic behind that extension.
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I got to watch Kate and Ellis and the Falcons leading one of the best defenses in NFL right now, for a get me out of your world.
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, well, oh, so, okay, so my list, this is my list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of saints, most likely they are traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, I'm gonna go at Pete Warner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, I'm gonna go at Carl Grinnison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three, I'm gonna go at Shee Shee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only team, and that could be things can change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, the team that makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's two teams that make a lot of sense for Granderson, and it's the Niners and it's the Cowboys.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are two teams that make a lot of a lot of sense for Granderson if you were to get traded.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like with Granderson,
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if they would move him just for a third.
23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if, like, for him, like, past Russia and a good starting defensive in, you know, I think if they were to get offered a second, and I know that the Niners are interested in trade hinders in, but maybe that, that negotiation gets too pricey for them, so maybe they, they come back to the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And,
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, and we got to talk about like the crystal-loving thing, I do think he could get moved, like, you know, and things are absolutely calling.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But everything I've been told like the things, unless they get an legit offer that they can't turn down, I really just don't see, I don't see them getting moved, I don't.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the surprise of me, man, you know?
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, what's the surprise?
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's still you, he's your number one
24:24
[SPEAKER_01]: on his team like whether you consider a number one worthy of a number one designation is different but he's like he's he's the lead target on the team right now you know I'm saying so getting rid of him it would take a course and look I'm sure there's some teams that are look at him and be like man I could do something with that like I could I could make some shake but
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Will it be worth it, you know, third right foot rompick, you know, I see us, I'm All right, you know, it might really get something out of that from a third right pick, you could maybe talk me to
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: a third opinion on a team, but most likely it would be like a content or time team, so it would be a late third, it's like, I'm good.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like to me, it needs to me to me to move off for Crystal Lobby, it needs to be a second.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that you should do business like this, but like I put in the discord, you think about the Saints last second round picks, Tyler
25:36
[UNKNOWN]: Woohoo!
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying you should like operate like that, but god damn!
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we could pull off a player for a player, and a player for a player in peaks, or something like that, that'll be interesting.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you think Mickey, you feel like that, bro?
25:51
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
25:52
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.
25:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: um someone asked this uh that thought was a good question uh Matt Andrews is the target distribution disparity between shaheed and a lot of a purely scheme base or is it that is that more due to route running inability in your opinion?
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: oh okay so I can't there's some things like I won't say just because of things that I know
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: What's been interesting to me, if you look at the snap count throughout the season, typically is Rashishid gets at least two night, been on the game 10 to 15 to 17 less naps than a lot of it.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's been consistent since week one.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, is that like, and here's the thing that's been on my radar.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It kinda more is like his snap distribution.
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Bayley is a perfect example.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: She he getting less net like getting a lot of less snaps throughout the game is an example.
27:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a part of is that he's just in the game less than a lot of it is.
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's a lot of his like Matt Harmon talked about it recently.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It is article like a lot of his actually getting used how people wanted him to be used like he's getting moved around in motion used in a flat used coming on those those ghost motion type plays and stuff like that over the middle he's getting used like that instead of just being outside all the time when deep breaths.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're using them more like a possession of our receiver and stuff like that now so that's why like he is he is like they go to our receiver for this often so it is mostly scheme based and like crystal library see what you want about it my no sense friends or like done with him I was
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You listen to the last podcast, I was just done to, but he still wins most of his rounds.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just a great rock runner man.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great rock runner and he's open a lot.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: What he does after the catch does he catch the ball, dropping balls, you know, all that stuff?
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I hate you.
28:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's open a lot with
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Rashida, he, as great as he is, he's like, come a long way as like a rock runner.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing a lot of it in the BDS stuff.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Real well, he ran like a nasty brother.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called Davis, just passed week.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he has come on long way as a rock runner.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's still not there yet.
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's running like, just that, man, just go, run routes against corners and win.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not that do yet, you know.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But like when it comes to speed, like, not many on the field like him.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that you were at it very, very well.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: CJ asked, yeah, I don't know if you guys spoke on the ringer article yet.
28:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talked about it.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if we like our thoughts, it's like, you can, like, I know some people will be like, no, that's hyperbole, like, there's no way, like,
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever man like I don't I don't know like it's not it's not us saying it's just someone who is not a saint's fan opinion of I said it I said it we have to the game this past week where I was like like if you just knew nothing you just watched the same versus New England
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You would just feel like, man, these were two good quarterbacks going at it.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't think about no, no, draft position and nothing, you just like, man, these are just like, good quarterback battle.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Drake made a look outstanding, Mr. Rattler looked outstanding, like, I wasn't film set up, but it was probably like two or three negative random plays.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the work he's doing in a pocket, who would all understand how much he's helping off into line?
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's doing what I'm not in that comparison to Breeze obviously, I'm saying he's doing what your Breeze used to do as well as like making the offensive line look better than it is.
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Just by navigate and manage in the pocket and depression.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a trick, you know how many people wish to take quarterbacks with do this with Sam Donald started struggling with early in his career still does at times.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Caleb Williams struggle with last year got better with this year, but still is a work in progress like those of things like some of the top Rated quarterbacks to come into the league struggle with as young players and spits around himself wasn't great at it last year He was always tough in the pocket, but as far as like managing the pocket He needed a lot of work on specialist mechanics man is night date night date But the main thing for Spencer
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: to approve on.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He has to be as he has to become a score bro.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's it.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, first couple of weeks, like a kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He had to three, you know, a big, big game against the UF 49ers, but it's been, I mean, he's what six touchdowns on the season.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I don't own quarterbacks that played all six games, he's like right behind Cam Ward.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like everybody was getting more touchdowns to them.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and you could argue it's on him.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of plays that has been on him that he missed, and some has been drops.
31:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Joined Johnson and Chris Alavi, some of his schemes, wears for lay, all kinds of reasons.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: John Scott, got a score for like, I don't care, like you're quarterback, you got to put a point.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has to him, the coach of staff, killing, they got to figure that out.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's going to
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: leave less doubts about should he be a daughter.
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something he has to do, especially coming up this week against the bears.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect segue.
31:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to actually talk about that game preview that game right after this break.
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33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Renee had there have been any rumors about what the move is with Chuck, what are we?
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we gonna should do with him as an acid or frowler keeps playing well?
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the things look at it like that right now.
34:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the things look at it as that they have two young quarterbacks that they're okay riding with.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's some flaws.
34:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're looking at something.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at those trade asset.
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've said this numerous times on this podcast.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: This season even before the season is that.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Before the seat before the full NFL season, and before a cost full ball season is that the saints.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Before a conch football game was played was potentially thinking about punting on this quarterback class unless unless Arsch Manning played ridiculously well and he declared and they had a shot to get him that was like So I'm not here to say that they're a hundred percent not gonna draft a quarterback
34:49
[SPEAKER_00]: For 2026 draft, but I just, as right now, I just don't feel like that, that's their plan.
34:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they're like, they have so many holes around the team.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted quarterback 40th overall last year.
35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a quarterback who would be going into his third year, who maybe playing well enough that the 40th overall pick doesn't even start.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know.
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe the fourth, you know, maybe Tyler shook has the lightbub go off and he just starts balling out who knows, but they feel like that might be a better
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: option than maybe drafting the guy that they don't, they're not in love with.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, like, I think it's different if this quarterback class, especially of upcoming draft came out and was just like gangbusters, bro, like Drew, like Drew, like Drew Aller, Kate, every quarterback that we talked about in the past, if they came out like they're the guy, then that's a very different conversation.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That hasn't been the case.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, thinking about,
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando Mendoza and Dante Moore top fives.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bit to them, but like, didn't I, you know, making you like, oh, man, we gotta take, I gotta lose games to get this guy.
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I gotta get it.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, it's gonna feel like that, you know?
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyhow, let's talk about this game and this appears on Sunday, revenge.
36:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there it is, good little for this one.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You got former saints going against Dennis Allen again, and maybe their relationship wasn't well.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You got,
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Spencer Rattler going against Caleb Williams who came in and took the rings from him from Oklahoma that led him to transfer in the South Carolina I need Spencer the I need Spence to step up and said not on my watch You if you I'm always into the pressure that he thought that he had today
36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You, it's, it's steel in his crawl, bro.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell what it is.
36:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in his crawl of hell, all that went down.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that worries me the most about this game is not necessarily like, things often going against the bears defense, like the bears defense is good, they're opportunistic.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm just scared that it could be a replay of the Patriots game where you have Ben Johnson,
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: set up to go against Brandon Staley and a defense that that worked that to me that's going to be the story of the game that question me and Ben Johnson who you know the Saints would have loved it even get a chance at me he's sorry we know I don't even
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Kelly Boyle, like you got the boy, you got the, you got the, you got a fill of sort of type of weird man, you know what I'm saying, like go up in there, go up in there and take it.
38:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you right, bro, like the same's defense, you know, probably the weakest unit, but like, I mean, just the best offense and all that, I mean, it just hasn't been all that, man, for whatever reason.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So far, I think they're, uh,
38:16
[SPEAKER_01]: but it's six neat and EPA per plate.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think the same, like it is a little bit better in the sense in that area.
38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, don't say he's gonna have a game.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's gonna, he's gonna give Kool-Aid that work.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just,
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: is what it is.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: DJ Moore is right now, right home.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's on a planet.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
38:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a do not practice or do not participate.
38:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, today on the on the entry report.
38:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're on for the Saints.
38:48
[SPEAKER_00]: AK was a DMP as well as Yodham.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone else was like limited or full.
38:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Ken was saying to defense stand up early to game.
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking up the same.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints had, you have like, the worst EPA allowed in the first quarter in the morning.
39:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, there is a stat that Bobby A bear said.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to find it.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in like the first quarter of games, hold on, this is terrible video podcast.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And sorry, y'all.
39:26
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're like, in the first quarter, they're like 68 to 16 outscored.
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's some ridiculous.
39:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's some ridiculous.
39:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why there's why they're there.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They're worse defensively in the first quarter when a EPA per play.
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just a day just get washed.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen it.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it week to week teams put out 14 points before you could even sit down with your beard.
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: with the being right and you're not so it's like, hey, what the heck is 14 nothing look put the hell in that and one thing like watching the bears I haven't like studied closely all you but watch them like
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson even though the offense is in humming like he wants his early scripts are beautiful like he Yes, okay.
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm killed Williams is cooking in the early script.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He's deciding with the ball getting the ball out quick They always have some kind of little trickery some type of little nice design play going on So I already have in my mind like they're gonna score seven at least and they're opening and they're opening up
40:30
[SPEAKER_01]: several, whatever.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just asking the same thing if it's like, can't y'all tighten it up?
40:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the same thing was so bad, but then if you go looking to the third quarter stats, it's much better, much better.
40:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have been able to adjust through our games and tighten it up.
40:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when you look at how badly they've been in the first quarter, it's amazing.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been giving up a ton of points.
40:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say I like this Seattle game.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, even the bills game, but those points came real late in the game when the game kind of just got away.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, they've been able to tighten it up against offenses throughout the game.
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't we do that a little earlier.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I schematically, I don't know what it is that they're doing.
41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is it so bad in early in games, man?
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's really bad.
41:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a bitch and catch.
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: like they're playing on their heels and they're not it's like they're not playing aggressive like it's it's a weird I can't explain it but it it just feels very like the defense of first couple of drives always feels timid like it's it's not dictating the game at all like the offense is always dictating to them
41:42
[SPEAKER_00]: against the commanders, Oman and I football, you saw the Andre Swift had a very big game.
41:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's been an issue for Chicago offensively.
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And the things run defense has been
41:58
[SPEAKER_00]: better this season for sure.
42:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Over all the whole, but it's gonna need to stand tall again.
42:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But like it's honestly, it hasn't really been the run place.
42:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all been like really just, can be with past plays, you have past clusters who are wide open on plays.
42:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you give it up long, second and long, start and long.
42:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first and long difference in the lead.
42:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Easy.
42:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And last game you had the coverage bus and again, that's going to happen when you're on your players.
42:28
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, it's, it feels like the offense already feels like, all right, guys, we know we don't be seven in the whole.
42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We know we don't be 14 in the whole.
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, oh, we don't live, bro, all the offense, the offense is struggling in the reason right now, struggling.
42:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's all we'll live, but at least can't we make it a game early, make it a little tight, give the offense a chance to get up early on a team and play complimentary football.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, please, I've yet to see a full, and this is our calendar more too, I've got full complimentary game, so I don't look a bit with the giants, but even then, the special teams, you know, I want to see,
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, maybe this is going to be I'm going to be all year when special teams are just disappointing, but and not even just groupy, but just the coverage and everything, just had been good, man, so I just want to see like a good complimentary football game with a defense plan, well, special teams plan, well, all fans stepping it up, that's what they're going to need.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, like the
43:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the bears often think about kill a I can't like hold on to that ball a little bit Does you could get you know, you could you could you could make life rough on cuz Like I Think can the things pass for us like I don't want to hear a single thing about Pressure rates can y'all can y'all affect a can y'all affect the passer
44:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like people have the nerve to come at me on Twitter when I tweet it like last Sunday that Jason was active, but you wouldn't even known.
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, it was just another repeat that we was last year, it was just that rough.
44:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, when you go look back at the tip, you know, you're getting out there, you know, you're really good at the best.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet the game, I bet the game, I've got to go squid and all 22.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: to see what my pressure was doing.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, while I'm near it, while I'm watching KGPO, while I'm near it.
44:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it, get it, get it, get it for a thumb up, can you, something, something, can you, at least, and this is not always on the past stretch of a can you, at least, when so, so blatantly that the offense is alarming, got hold you in like the rest of the blood, like something, something, I'm tired of the rest of the rate bullshit.
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: show me results and he's gonna be going against
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Theo, I think it's a theo been a debt who's like a second year player that they drafted last year And so he had his first start I guess the commanders so you're going to guess a young player at Leftacle like show me something bro Show me something this bears off in the line has been reworked retooled Dr. Arneel right had a really good game against the car earned in front of the commanders
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm running out for ball.
45:37
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45:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you come back to us, bro?
45:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, man.
45:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, I don't know what's going on with him.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, like, constant lovelin'.
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they hadn't really got him going yet.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all, man.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like nine targets on the season.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So far, though, he was banked up.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of weeks ago came back last week.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, caught one pass last week.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: feel like he always plays well against the Saints for some reason.
46:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He does have a good game with the Saints every time.
46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, DJ Moore, we don't know.
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, Roman doesn't say he's going to a staying swift.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's going to a staying.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, if you can just keep, keep killing chaplainers feet holding on to the ball, making him try to play a little hero ball.
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You might have a chance, you might have a chance, man, because they're all fins are still trying to find their way.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like the saying's all fins is, too.
46:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about the other end of the ball.
46:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone asked us Louisiana said, hey, Ivan Ryan, do you think a lot of me and she heat match up, match up, well it gives the bear a second dairy.
46:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're not going to have Jalen Johnson, um, they have, they have, they have call our collar guard and who's an excellent slot corner, excellent slot corner.
47:04
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the, one of the best in the league, but you're going to, they're going to be going against Tyreech Stevenson on the outside and then like nation right on the outside too.
47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I've I've seen it.
47:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen it.
47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I do not trusted Dennis Island defense.
47:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't trust it.
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, they have they have talent.
47:23
[SPEAKER_00]: They have Montez sweat.
47:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They got Edmunds at Lombacker.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Byer at Safety.
47:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like I need the offense and they played what the bears defense played the run well against commanders, but before then has been like a bottom three run defense.
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not some states.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They're 31st in Randy Finns against the against the win against the rush.
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, 5.7 yards carry bro.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: 5.7 years against the win, it's 29th in pressure percentage, whatever you want think about pressure, it's 29th, like saves have a better, saves defense has a better pressure percentage than the bears, they're giving up the 7th most touchdowns.
48:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, but I guess the one good thing they have like a really good pressure rate on third down Dennis, Dennis, that's not always been pretty good about Designing some nice little pressure packages on third down or whatever, but what are the packages?
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yeah, yes, but like the defense is not It's not great that defense is not great.
48:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not being coordinated great The same can do some things against it's take for defense, bro.
48:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a run the ball, can't you remember?
48:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on man, DA had you in the dog house left out for dead can dream of a revenge game revenge and it's gonna be a road game We're probably that means that the last one is well, I was thinking also more under center Which the Saints when they played like you then on a road.
48:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
49:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Ken's range of your time, baby.
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this, Ken's range.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: This is your time to get that 100 yard game, 100 plus yard game, and go step your name in the city, in the mud, like, Ken's capabilities here.
49:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then after the game, after the things when I want Ken's ready to do that to D.A.
49:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we won't go on, we won't go on, we won't go on, we won't go on.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to, I need to go on.
49:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, me, oh, I'm full and healthy.
49:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Just have you on our children.
49:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Need it.
49:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like, it's like, I know I talked about like the rather aspect that it's kind of Williams, but it's also like a Wrathler gets the eighth thing to just because like the whole how the whole quarterback three, you'd be free.
49:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Good, good, go sling it.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Go sling it on Sunday.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Just sling it, man.
49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm where I want to spit the rally to go out there.
49:55
[SPEAKER_01]: and slain that thing and show kill with you.
50:00
[SPEAKER_01]: He said in the press and I've been battling them all of them guys since I was in high school and I'm still here.
50:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Still still competing.
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and slain.
50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He's some test hours, bro.
50:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know what you got to do.
50:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you got to work out with the guy, work out with the guy after practice.
50:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you and the coaches and the guys need to sit down and like draw up some specific things, but you all need to get some points on the boy, bro.
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Need to.
50:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Need to.
50:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Hunter said, we just just signed Wenton to run victory formation for this game.
50:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be beautiful, bro.
50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I would give up, I would give up a seven to just for a breath.
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Just for a breath.
50:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Take it, take it, take it, Dianna.
50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say this is, bro, like, as bad as a game, Crystal Lovie had last week.
51:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when I went back and rewatched, you could tell they, like, they made a point to, like, let's cook, like me, or randomly in the lobby.
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It was cooking early, bro.
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They even did it.
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice connection.
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, Spencer Redder's ball placement was much better.
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Much better.
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were doing what they were cooking, but when it came like the plays that we really needed to have from a lobby, he didn't make it happen.
51:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and get another shot, bro.
51:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, go out there and not only prove us wrong, but prove to yourself, you know what I'm saying?
51:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the proof is monkey off your back, you know?
51:42
[SPEAKER_00]: the defensive coordinators out here lying to you in the media saying that you had ran the wrong route when you hadn't been with defending Derrick or like this is so there's love narratives on narratives probably got it oh man the levels of this revenge game I said it on the recap part for the Patriots if we had to lose our first meet-up game in in four years
52:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But to go back next to the final week to be Chicago Bears, which is coached by D.A.
52:11
[SPEAKER_00]: defensively in Chicago, a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for a soul for
52:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be really nice if we had to tie it in that one's worth some of them, because you know D.A.D.
52:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Francis can't stop tie it as to say they're fucking loud as a pro.
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't burn in which we just don't have it like in, I don't know, taste a meal, can we get Jake stole going in the past game?
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's the right game, that nigga, that nigga is terrible, terrible, and I'm just tired of you, man, I'm just
53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So tired of him, bro, I know he's not going away.
53:04
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not going anywhere.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's going straight for him.
53:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't got no.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I floated that idea, like, infregency, like, the things you really push are for, like, Kate Otten.
53:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I'm a teen, Kate Otten, bro.
53:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was told, like, the teen, like, I'll pay eight million a year for two tight ends.
53:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like,
53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're like this, but also like why did why did why did why did I get said why did I have to give to one that contract And that's where it's me like with a lot of Taylor like He just screams another one of those Okay, bro, they if they's then a lot of they brum.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing my shit Well, just one of those Confirmations like yeah, look how good we drafted.
54:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh
54:03
[SPEAKER_01]: 80 million.
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just screams.
54:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It screams when it all moves.
54:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I would lose my literal shit.
54:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, whoop.
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so bad it's so scouting man.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so bad it's so scouting.
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack said I like how Rattler is playing, but this is the game we just need to run the ball over and over until Dave blows up.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how they win.
54:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care how they fuck the one.
54:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, the ground turns to turn to turn to turn to I would like it to be like an offense explosion to so the defense is just looking putrid honestly just just just be just win get the dog Get the dog, but yeah, I do what I wouldn't like to see I would like to just continue to see growth from the offense period.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and as I was side of the win, I just want to see
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been paid like in the red zone.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't it's always like And it's not one thing.
55:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like all if they do this, it'll fix it.
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like if you just go watch only red zone steps It's just all kind of it's always like two players making a mistake You know play again beat on a black or Support run fit or You know Rattleston a neckerie ball Toine Johnson or Crystal Love each dropping ball
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: This is always something, every time it's like, can y'all just get it together in the red zone, man?
55:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will see it again.
55:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get fillet on the field?
55:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, seriously, what's the problem?
55:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That guy's not even funny anymore.
55:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just kind of like, oh, I was like, okay, what's really going on?
55:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this makes it no sense.
55:45
[SPEAKER_01]: We are, it's our total year of 15th.
55:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, we're on in the week seven.
55:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't flacko, start a game for the bangles on Sunday and was traded the week before.
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's kind of living.
55:59
[SPEAKER_01]: World does it, uh, tomorrow Chase was calling, please.
56:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on a field calling, it's calling the automobiles to see it.
56:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He quit his going on, he got the virus.
56:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, that's where I missed.
56:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So, someone don't play or jump though, that game was close.
56:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's that intelligence, chillin'.
56:21
[SPEAKER_00]: pro.
56:23
[SPEAKER_00]: As much as there's been some positive things we've seen with Kellon this season and Rattler's development, a lot of that's on spits, but you know, pair with Kellon I think that's a really good pairing.
56:34
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the little things that are on my radar about him as it had coach words like, bro, like y'all traded for him, but like during like in the preseason,
56:45
[SPEAKER_00]: because I'll need it this body tight for the office.
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get them, give up a fourth round pick for an older receiver with neat issues, chronic neat issues.
56:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, he missed the game, but like the crazy thing is like, when you all put him and use him, the way he should be used against the Niners, it worked when he was in the rest of the world.
57:06
[SPEAKER_00]: When he was in the red zone against the Patriots, Rattler, what they would have find him for a great fucking play.
57:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Got call back because of the penalty, but great play, bro.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that could be like the connection that the Saints have been missing and it's like y'all just throwing one of I can somebody ask by Find out what's going on You don't get it Don't get it force just throwing away just just throw them for the way At least we might get one back for for y'all them.
57:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I don't I don't know
57:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Alfred Assen also where the hell is Palmer he's on IR bro.
57:49
[SPEAKER_00]: No man.
57:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That nigga saw how the bucks was doing and he was just looking out the window sad and she said he's have come.
57:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just shutting this shit down shut the door shut it down.
58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: See y'all next season maybe.
58:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Saints are one and five, going against the bears on Sunday, in Chicago.
58:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what the weather's gonna be like.
58:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's look that up.
58:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But my question is, as I'm doing this terrible podcasting for audio listeners, so it's supposed to be in the like 57 on Sunday and rating.
58:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of if A.K.
58:46
[SPEAKER_00]: is able to go or not, he was a he was a do not participate today, but hopefully he can he can come back to because it's he he also can fuck a San Diego so it's so many areas that you said do the do the same swing on Sunday you got him when they're on Sunday calling the I called it late I call it right at the I call it early this week man, the same one in this game.
59:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I can feel it.
59:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He getting that job man, need it.
59:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know what the school going to be.
59:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We get into the
59:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going, yes, as well, bro.
59:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, gotta beat the bears.
59:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Need to beat them if I have some fives, I'm gonna be, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
59:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we need this win very badly.
59:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else about for this game?
59:55
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
59:57
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
59:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
59:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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1:00:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully the Saints pull out a win against their former head coach and we should see what it is.
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1:00:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Louisiana State, Kelly got to be more aggressive on 4th down too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm my radar on my radar.
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