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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Wrapping Up Crash Crucible! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  It's all over people.
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  Crash is done.
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  We've got some insights.
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  Can't wait for you to see them.
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  Here we go next.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  It's a victory Sunday for the fourth week
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  in a row for my Chicago Bears.
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  Can you believe it?
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  And now we're here for Sunday, Sunday,
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  Sunday night CrossFit talk.
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  It's so good to be a winner.
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  I don't know.
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  I haven't felt four in a row since
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  two thousand eighteen.
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  Is that how long?
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  my Blue Jays are just trying to hang
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  on tonight,
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  and that game's just starting soon.
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  Can I say, one, I love Vlad Guerrero.
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  Love Vlad Guerrero.
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  Two,
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  when the coach tried to take Max
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  Scherzinger out of the game the other
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  night, and he told him, no,
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  get away from me,
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  and then pluck out the next batter,
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  that was awesome.
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  Yeah, that makes sense.
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  I love playoff baseball.
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  I really do.
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  I do too.
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  I wish it wasn't so late into the
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  season and so much in the middle of
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  football.
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  But I love playoff baseball.
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  And I love that the American League are
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  new teams.
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  We haven't seen Toronto, what,
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  since the nineties?
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  And Seattle, maybe even longer than that.
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  So...
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  CrossFit,
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  I heard that Springer is going to try
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  to go tonight.
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  You have it up, Carolyn.
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  He looked like he was trying to go
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  last game, which is crazy.
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  Then he got booed to leave the game.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Toronto fans have done booing as well.
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  Every fan base has had their fair share
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  of being not the best fans.
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  So it's been a minute since we've seen
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  Carolyn and Jamie.
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  How are things going?
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  You guys have anything going on in your
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  lives?
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  Lucas and I are going to go to
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  the Lions Monday night football tomorrow
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  night.
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  It's like fall break for college.
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  So he's got tomorrow off.
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  So are you done with college football
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  forever?
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  Join the club.
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  Come on.
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  No.
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  Come on.
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  I'm done with college football right now
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  with my Wisconsin Badgers getting shut out
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  by freaking Ohio State this weekend.
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  My Bears win four in a row.
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  My Penn State Nittany Lions lose four in
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  a row.
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  I mean, yeah,
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  we're not going to have a great,
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  it's not going to be a great weekend
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  next weekend either against Michigan,
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  but it is what it is.
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  Carolyn's getting smoked in the chat.
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  Carolyn only likes playoff baseball if the
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  Jays are there.
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  Perhaps.
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  It does help to love the playoff baseball.
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  And then Lex asks, Jamie, how's your hip?
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  I don't know.
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  It is what it is.
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  Like, slow?
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  It's a long process.
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  Yeah, I mean, I probably won't have...
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  update for you guys for like four months
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  I won't even be able to I mean
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  I have my doctor's appointment eleven six
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  so like Thursday November six couple weeks
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  and like from there I might get assuming
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  everything looks okay and he thinks it's
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  moving okay and I have decent range of
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  motion maybe I'll get some freedom but he
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  was very specific to like back off and
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  like not do stuff.
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  Like just like I have,
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  I just have to not do things and
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  trust the process and let it heal.
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  And it's hard, but you know,
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  if I try to do too much and
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  test it out,
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  that's probably where the problem is going
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  to be.
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  Yeah.
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  That's, that really sucks.
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  The patients I know is the least,
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  the least earned quality that Jamie has.
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  yeah and you're like you're someone who
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  enjoys moving a lot and and doing things
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  see me like if you tell me to
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  rest I'm like all right let me rest
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  like I'm lazy it was okay for like
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  a week sure like I got I read
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  I read and watched some Netflix series but
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  like after a while and I don't I
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  mean I
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  I would do that stuff even when I'm
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  working out hard.
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  Like I'll take a Sunday and rest and
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  like lay on the couch all day.
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  Like I can have my lazy days.
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  Don't get me wrong.
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  But it's also like a mental thing for
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  me.
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  Like I have to like sweat and get,
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  like I said,
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  my metrics are all way off and it's
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  stressing me out.
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  Like I just go like walk for ten
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  minutes and my heart rate's like at one
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  seventeen and I'm like,
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  I don't know what's happening.
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  Like my body does not feel right.
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  That's goofy.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, Kenneth,
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  the lab asked what's wrong with college
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  football.
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  It's a mess.
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  Like it's so wild built is in the
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  top.
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  Like what is going on?
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  Every coach is getting canned.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, ours is on the chopping block.
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  It is.
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  I'm like, just deal with it.
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  We don't even have any decent games lined
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  up.
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  We're probably going to lose all the rest
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  of them anyway.
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  Just get through the season.
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  We don't need to pay thirty three million.
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  Hey, we paid fifty.
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  I know.
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  Which is just insanity to me.
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  We should have just a trade Z plus
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  like the thirteen mil.
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  He was on game day.
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  James Franklin was on game day.
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  I really liked the person and what he
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  did at Penn State after the Sandusky thing
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  and to bring them back from the sanctions
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  and to make them a good program again.
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  I appreciate all that so much.
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  It was sad to see him there as
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  a fired coach.
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  And I'm a fan.
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  I want to win, but it just is...
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  It's just sad.
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  I don't know any other way to put
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  it.
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  If any other college hires him,
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  they're getting a great human being.
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  Right.
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  First and foremost.
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  Now,
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  whether he can beat Ohio State and
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  Michigan, probably not.
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  But he's going to be a winning program,
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  and he's going to make good human beings
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  out of the players.
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  But there we are.
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  So with that,
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  let's go ahead and hit crash.
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  I know that you guys were already on
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  fire when I got into the studio tonight.
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  So let's talk about it.
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  Let's talk about our kind of alley,
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  and that is the Masters field.
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  my friend,
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  my personal friend that lives just down
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  the street, Rudy Berger,
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  won the men's division.
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  I've done so many documentaries on the
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  dude.
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  They're all over our channel.
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  If you want to know more about him,
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  go check those out.
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  He is such a badass.
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  When you watch him live,
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  he just is such a good mover.
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  And to be forty three years old in
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  some in a division that starts at thirty
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  five and to basically dominate the weekend
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  was pretty damn impressive.
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  I was very impressed with his scores.
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  And then on the women's side,
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  we had utter domination again.
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  Like every time I tuned in,
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  she was done and everybody else was still
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  going.
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  And because they started late,
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  you hardly ever got to see her go
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  because she was already done with the
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  workout.
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  Correct.
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  And that was Caroline Klutz.
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  Crushed it.
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  Caroline Klutz.
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  Caroline.
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  Yeah.
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  I tripped over my tongue on the,
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  on the way to that one.
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  Yeah.
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  To me,
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  she was the most impressive this weekend
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  overall.
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  We can talk about the fact that I
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  did the math.
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  She would have been second overall in the
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  elite individuals.
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  The first workout,
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  she would have gone fifth place,
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  tenth place in the second workout,
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  third place in the third,
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  third place in the fourth,
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  third place in the fifth workout,
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  and a twelfth place in the sixth workout.
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  And she did this coming from a first
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  heat in the Masters without any... I mean,
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  Kenzie pushed her on the last one and
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  crushed that one.
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  So shout out to Kenzie on that last
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  one.
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  Really did well.
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  But she did this from the first heat,
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  not racing against any of those other
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  competitors.
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  And in some of these scores,
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  she's like one or two seconds,
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  three seconds behind them.
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  And it's just crazy that the whole
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  weekend...
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  they weren't talking about it.
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  And it's too bad that they couldn't have,
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  because they're doing the same workout,
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  just put them all together,
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  have her have a chance to race against
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  the elites and a chance for the podium
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  for her for prize money, recognition,
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  all of that.
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  And then at the end,
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  you do a separate leaderboard for just the
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  masters against each other.
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  They're doing the same workouts anyways,
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  same weight, same everything.
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  So to me, it was just like,
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  I feel bad because she missed out on
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  money.
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  Yeah.
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  That's my biggest thing with crashing.
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  I get it.
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  Like I get the seven crew not being
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  live for.
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  Fourteen straight hours and not doing the
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  first two heats.
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  Like they can only talk for so long.
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  We've talked about maybe leaving a static
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  camera up with that.
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  Would that work?
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  I don't know.
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  But I don't understand when you're doing
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  the exact same workout, why it just isn't.
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  here's everyone competing.
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  Here's their placement.
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  Like that,
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  let them be where they're going to be.
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  It would be like the WFP.
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  If they had,
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  if the challenger division had the exact
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  same workouts, right.
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  It's like, just let them all just,
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  just go.
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  Yeah.
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  But like,
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  they can't do that in the WFP because
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  they actually changed the workouts for
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  the, for the challengers to make it.
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  So it's like, no,
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  you need to earn your spot in the
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  pro division,
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  but these were the exact same workouts.
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  Yeah.
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  And she crushed it.
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  And like,
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  like even the first day when I mentioned
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  it on,
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  I want to address this real quick.
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  Larry, um, you got, he says,
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  you guys only know this is the only
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  form that cares about the masters,
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  but what we,
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  what you should care about is Caroline
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  klutz scored as well as all,
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  but one of the individual athletes
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  overall.
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  That's what we're talking about here.
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  She would have finished second overall in
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  the competition with Peace Corps.
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  And that's her giving a time for people.
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  They see it.
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  They know it can be done.
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  They go do it.
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  Yeah, she's the guinea pig.
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  Imagine if she had been next to Paige
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  and Liz and all those heaths.
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  who knows if she couldn't have beat paige
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  outright and not be losing by those two
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  three seconds and getting some of those
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  points like you're yeah you're the guinea
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  pig that is a completely different race
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  like if you're if you're an individual
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  athlete and you're not watching her go in
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  the masters division to see the score that
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  she's putting up and seeing anything that
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  you can pick up from her like like
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  that's a mistake if you're a coach or
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  an athlete that's like like you have to
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  go and watch her because she's literally
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  putting up a top score
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  she was not allowed to do.
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  I mean,
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  I feel like that's been a thing.
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  I,
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  I feel like she's asked for and Jr
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  makes her do the masters.
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  It is.
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  Was there a prize money for the masters?
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  Yes.
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  And what was the prize money for second?
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  the elites i couldn't see the podium i
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  didn't i don't know i know it was
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  ten for first but i don't know what
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  it was i do know the one year
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  it was it she would have still like
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  podiumed but it did behoove her to win
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  masters and win the money that she won
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  i feel like but that year it was
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  like five thousand individual winner maybe
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  like twenty two thousand and one thousand
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  or something
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  now that it's i'm betting it's a bigger
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  price first right because it's ten it
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  probably is like ten maybe maybe like
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  three at least three or two or two
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  or three at least probably and then that's
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  probably what she got and so he probably
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  knows she's gonna she's gonna get decent
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  money either way and he's guaranteed her
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  her getting money my issue is yeah i
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  don't want to answer this directly though
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  i don't think she had the option to
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  do elite no masters is done by invite
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  only yes
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  the rest have qualifiers and I,
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  and I believe that she was just given
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  the invite to masters,
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  not to the elite competition.
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  Yeah.
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  But I think at that point,
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  like you invite the masters,
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  they begin in heat one.
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  And then if they make their way up
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  and they're racing against the elites
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  doing the same workouts, you just,
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  they are where they are in the race.
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  And then you just have their separate like
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  podium.
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  Agreed.
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  It wouldn't change anything like because
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  you would think the Masters would just be
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  in the first heat anyways.
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  But in this case,
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  like she's clearly a high semifinal
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  athlete,
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  games level caliber individual athlete,
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  like in that like.
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  you know,
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  group of athletes that were competing in
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  the elites.
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  Like she's never done the individual
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  CrossFit games, but she's, you know,
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  done the teams multiple time.
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  And now she's done the individual masters
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  twice.
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  And clearly she's right up there with all
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  of those games,
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  athletes that have been there and high
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  semi high semifinal athletes.
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  Yeah.
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  It was just a miss because her scores
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  were really good.
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  Regardless of like,
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  J.R.
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  's thought process there,
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  like if he's trying to get good
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  competition to show up for the Masters so
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  that he needs someone like her to
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  represent that division and draw in other
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  names, like who knows what it is.
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  I don't disagree with having that
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  division.
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  I do think they're doing the same thing
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  they should get to.
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  I think the bigger miss is coverage on
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  her and people seeing someone like her
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  and getting her name out there like she
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  should have been in the final heat racing
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  against those ladies and people should
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  have seen her move i'll take your
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  beyond like competing with the elites,
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  what she is accomplishing is newsworthy
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  and should be talked about.
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  That's all we're saying here.
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  She is a master's athlete putting up
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  scores that compete with everybody else
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  there.
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  I believe that that is newsworthy and
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  should be at least talked about.
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  And that's why we're doing it here.
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  We want to let it be known that
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  she is a phenomenal athlete and should be
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  recognized as such.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Lex, I almost positive.
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  All you had to do is tell JR
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  you were interested in going and you would
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  have gotten an invite.
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  He's trying to build the master's
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  division.
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  And I don't think he knows enough names.
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  And so he reaches out to who he
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  knows.
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  He would have.
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  I mean,
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  if you would have said you wanted to
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  go,
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  he would have absolutely let you go
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  compete.
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  I am betting that he believes Caroline.
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  Caroline is just an elite athlete.
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  She was at the games as an elite
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  athlete.
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  He may have not put two and two
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  together that she has flipped to a
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  master's athlete.
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  I don't know.
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  No,
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  because he talked about her a bit in
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  the master's game.
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  So I remember him bringing her name up
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  on some of the shows.
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  I just, I don't know.
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  I think you just needed to say something.
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  I said something on this show, Carolyn.
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  You didn't like,
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  you didn't speak up and say, cause I,
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  I said, I didn't even, I just said,
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  I think it's dumb that the qualifiers were
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  right now because it was like, yeah,
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  I remember I was talking about it and
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  then I was like, yeah,
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  I couldn't do the qualifier.
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  Cause like, yeah.
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  And he like reached out to me like
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  that week.
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  It was like, Hey, I mean,
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  if you were interested, um,
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  And I had told them I was having
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  surgery, so it didn't matter.
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  But I think, I think I just,
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  because I like mentioned,
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  I thought it was done that the qualifier
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  was right there and then we couldn't even
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  do it.
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  And so, um, I don't know.
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  Yeah.
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  No,
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  I just think that you invite her as,
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  as a master athlete and then you see
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  what happens.
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  And then like, it's one leaderboard,
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  they start off in heat one and then
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  wherever you go after that,
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  but you still have the master's overall
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  leaderboard.
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  You keep it, you keep it.
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  But if a master's is outperforming the
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  other athletes, let them.
• 17:37
  I think that they let them.
• 17:39
  Yeah.
• 17:40
  And I think that you're,
• 17:41
  you're going to get some probably better
• 17:44
  masters athletes that want that
• 17:47
  opportunity to like,
• 17:49
  to show off against some individuals.
• 17:52
  So like,
• 17:52
  if they know that there's that possibility
• 17:54
  that they're going to get coverage or earn
• 17:57
  a way into like one of the better
• 17:58
  heats,
• 17:58
  like I think some more people might be
• 18:01
  wanting to try for this comp.
• 18:03
  I don't know.
• 18:05
  I mean, there was only five,
• 18:05
  there was what, five masters women?
• 18:08
  Yeah, there wasn't many.
• 18:09
  There was like double the men than the
• 18:11
  women.
• 18:13
  And I don't even think all the men
• 18:15
  were there.
• 18:16
  Like of the two men we thought would
• 18:19
  do well, Scott,
• 18:20
  the two men we said didn't even show
• 18:21
  up.
• 18:25
  I don't remember who it was now.
• 18:26
  I think we said Hudson Fricke and like
• 18:30
  maybe Mark Hutchinson.
• 18:31
  And I think both of them did not.
• 18:33
  So I was like, well,
• 18:34
  our two picks weren't even there.
• 18:35
  So, I mean,
• 18:36
  luckily we said we thought Rudy and Zach
• 18:38
  would do decent.
• 18:44
  Terry,
• 18:44
  I love the idea that elites can lose
• 18:46
  their placement to a master.
• 18:47
  It's kind of weird.
• 18:48
  It's kind of like the soccer thing in
• 18:51
  Europe that you can be demoted to another
• 18:54
  league or promoted.
• 18:57
  And while you guys were saying this,
• 18:59
  I'm thinking in my head,
• 19:00
  how many elite athletes would be resistant
• 19:04
  to this idea because they don't want to
• 19:06
  be shown up by a master's athlete?
• 19:08
  The problem is the P-score.
• 19:10
  Because if you put everyone together and
• 19:14
  let's say some of the masters are
• 19:15
  significantly slower,
• 19:17
  you're pulling some of that median score a
• 19:21
  little bit lower than it would normally be
• 19:23
  in a pure elite field.
• 19:26
  But if in the masters division,
• 19:28
  you only rank the masters athletes against
• 19:31
  each other after who cares?
• 19:34
  Exactly.
• 19:35
  That's how it's done.
• 19:37
  I think that's the only reason why they
• 19:38
  don't do it is because of that P
• 19:40
  score issue,
• 19:41
  pulling the median in the other direction.
• 19:43
  Because it would.
• 19:44
  I mean, for the most part,
• 19:46
  the Masters athletes should be lower,
• 19:49
  but it's not always the case.
• 19:50
  Like you have Kenzie that would have done
• 19:52
  really well this weekend as well.
• 19:53
  Not as well as Caroline,
• 19:56
  but was also putting up some competitive
• 20:00
  times and scores.
• 20:02
  It probably would have saved someone like
• 20:05
  Who was it there at the end?
• 20:08
  Liz?
• 20:09
  No.
• 20:10
  The one – not Haas.
• 20:14
  She did good.
• 20:15
  I can't remember which girl.
• 20:15
  Didn't even get a single handstand pushup.
• 20:18
  Rachel Noel?
• 20:19
  Yes.
• 20:21
  Yep.
• 20:21
  So that would save someone like her if
• 20:23
  some of the masters only got one round
• 20:25
  or whatever and it made that a little
• 20:27
  bit bigger.
• 20:28
  Yeah.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:32
  But I also think that is why they
• 20:36
  do tweaked programming for the Masters so
• 20:38
  they don't have to answer this question.
• 20:39
  But they did not do that this weekend.
• 20:41
  Yeah.
• 20:41
  It was the exact same programming.
• 20:44
  Same workouts, same weights,
• 20:45
  same transition,
• 20:46
  same judges that were on the floor.
• 20:49
  Right.
• 20:50
  Literally the exact same experience for
• 20:52
  the Masters.
• 20:53
  Yeah.
• 20:57
  Jody, I know it's his event.
• 20:59
  He can do what he wants to do,
• 21:00
  but we're here to talk about stuff.
• 21:02
  We have to like, yeah, it's just,
• 21:04
  no one talked about the fact that klutz
• 21:06
  would have been in second place overall.
• 21:08
  And we're just highlighting that,
• 21:10
  like how impressive that was coming from
• 21:13
  literally a first heat the entire weekend,
• 21:15
  being a Guinea pig for these workouts.
• 21:18
  How many people watching crash this
• 21:21
  weekend heard Carolyn's name?
• 21:22
  Probably twice.
• 21:24
  That's that's unfortunate.
• 21:28
  Yeah.
• 21:28
  And at one point I think the,
• 21:29
  the broadcast team were like, Oh,
• 21:31
  but like she's doing great in the masters,
• 21:33
  but she'd be like in the second heat
• 21:36
  in the, in the field.
• 21:37
  And I'm like,
• 21:37
  are you guys not looking at her scores?
• 21:38
  Like she's in the final heat from the
• 21:42
  day one events.
• 21:44
  So Kat,
• 21:45
  we are not complaining about masters
• 21:46
  coverage.
• 21:47
  We are complaining that a person did
• 21:49
  something really freaking cool this
• 21:50
  weekend and it wasn't covered.
• 21:53
  Stop going to the nobody cares about
• 21:56
  masters.
• 21:56
  We don't want masters covered.
• 21:58
  We're talking about a woman who did
• 22:01
  something really cool,
• 22:02
  posted times that were as good,
• 22:04
  if not better than the elite athletes.
• 22:07
  And we just want that recognized.
• 22:09
  That is it.
• 22:12
  Yeah,
• 22:12
  and it's not just like she would have
• 22:13
  been in the middle of the field.
• 22:15
  She would have gone second place ahead of
• 22:20
  multiple people that have been to the
• 22:21
  games individually and high,
• 22:24
  high-level semifinal athletes.
• 22:27
  It was very impressive.
• 22:30
  So shout-out to Caroline Klutz.
• 22:31
  Yeah, exactly.
• 22:33
  And shout-out to Rudy.
• 22:34
  Rudy, yeah.
• 22:36
  yeah great champions um i've been talking
• 22:40
  to caroline she actually just moved right
• 22:43
  before crash we were i was trying to
• 22:45
  have her on right before crash she's
• 22:48
  supposed to have some time this week to
• 22:50
  come on so hopefully we'll have caroline
• 22:52
  on this week to talk about um to
• 22:56
  talk about all that with that john says
• 23:01
  they did say she was third overall
• 23:07
  Who said that?
• 23:10
  John.
• 23:10
  John Young.
• 23:10
  We said she was third in overall multiple
• 23:12
  times today before they began.
• 23:17
  Second.
• 23:17
  After.
• 23:19
  Yeah.
• 23:20
  So, I mean,
• 23:21
  is Tyler going to put out a spreadsheet
• 23:24
  with that?
• 23:25
  Like with that overall so we can see
• 23:26
  where her points would have lined up?
• 23:30
  That would be.
• 23:34
  Okay.
• 23:37
  Um, let's talk about the elite winners.
• 23:40
  I'm going, I have them, uh,
• 23:42
  Holly made a nice thing that I'm going
• 23:45
  to pull up so we can just go
• 23:49
  through them really quick with the top
• 23:51
  tens.
• 23:54
  Share my screen.
• 24:00
  And yes,
• 24:01
  I would put every master on the full
• 24:03
  leaderboard cross fat.
• 24:04
  That's what I would do.
• 24:08
  So on the men's side, no surprise,
• 24:10
  Colton gets the victory.
• 24:12
  Quinn Robinson is in second.
• 24:15
  Sam Demeester is in third.
• 24:17
  I picked Jacob Marlowe to podium,
• 24:19
  and I got to feel I'm pretty proud
• 24:21
  of the fifth place finish he pulled off.
• 24:25
  And we had Chris Ibarra, Jacob Marlowe,
• 24:27
  Nate Ackerman, Max Krieg, Matthias Porter,
• 24:31
  Drake Lewis, and Jace Brooks.
• 24:33
  That's your top ten men.
• 24:36
  On the women's side, we had Paige,
• 24:40
  actually Paige Rogers,
• 24:42
  formerly Paige Powers, Maddie Fouts,
• 24:45
  Reese Littlewood, Samantha Pugh,
• 24:47
  Liz Wishart, Trista Smith, Miley Wade,
• 24:50
  Caitlin Sanders, Caitlin Bernadine,
• 24:53
  and Kyra Milligan.
• 24:57
  You guys actually noticed something about
• 24:59
  the top tens on both sides.
• 25:03
  You want to share that with the crew?
• 25:05
  Sure.
• 25:06
  Well, Carolyn got this morning, I noticed.
• 25:08
  Team athletes did really well this
• 25:09
  weekend.
• 25:11
  You know,
• 25:11
  you're looking at on the men's side,
• 25:14
  second and third place finishers were team
• 25:17
  athletes outdoing the individual athletes
• 25:20
  that have been, you know, training there.
• 25:21
  And then someone like Klutz who comes from
• 25:24
  the team also at the games,
• 25:25
  she got third on a team at the
• 25:27
  games.
• 25:28
  um she also did really well this weekend
• 25:30
  sam pew i think is a team athlete
• 25:32
  from this year's crossfit games and then
• 25:35
  obviously you have some other athletes too
• 25:38
  that have done well but just we often
• 25:40
  say that like team athletes are like a
• 25:42
  tier below the individuals but here we
• 25:45
  have you know a weekend where they're
• 25:49
  competing individually and got the shine
• 25:51
  in a different way that they normally do
• 25:53
  so i think
• 25:54
  Shout out to those athletes that competed
• 25:56
  individually this weekend and crushed it.
• 26:00
  Yeah, on the men's side,
• 26:01
  I think it's even more.
• 26:01
  Quinn, Sam, Drake Lewis, for sure.
• 26:10
  Matthias, is he a team athlete or no?
• 26:13
  Well, I feel like he's gone team, but...
• 26:18
  I mean, I feel like he's worked,
• 26:19
  but I think that's kind of the issue
• 26:21
  with some of these people is like they're
• 26:22
  working their way into an individual side.
• 26:24
  And maybe that's what's maybe that's
• 26:27
  what's propelling them up is maybe they
• 26:29
  want to transition to individual and
• 26:30
  they're shoring some things up.
• 26:31
  I don't know.
• 26:35
  Yeah, maybe.
• 26:38
  So with that, I thought.
• 26:43
  I got something in Factor Fiction that I
• 26:44
  don't want to spoil yet.
• 26:46
  So I don't want to talk about that
• 26:47
  quite yet.
• 26:48
  And there's some comments about that in
• 26:50
  the chat.
• 26:54
  The broadcast.
• 26:56
  I've got to say,
• 26:57
  the investment they have put in their
• 26:58
  equipment really paid off.
• 27:00
  It was as crystal clear as a professional
• 27:04
  broadcast.
• 27:06
  Agreed.
• 27:07
  So well done.
• 27:08
  I've said this before.
• 27:09
  I love when John Young is color
• 27:11
  commentating.
• 27:12
  I think he brings something different to
• 27:14
  the table that nobody else does.
• 27:16
  It's refreshing.
• 27:18
  It's a breath of fresh air.
• 27:20
  I love when he's like going,
• 27:22
  you got to pick it up.
• 27:23
  You got to pick it up.
• 27:25
  Because it adds the excitement to the race
• 27:29
  as a viewer.
• 27:31
  And I really,
• 27:31
  really enjoy him doing color commentating.
• 27:35
  But I think on the flip side of
• 27:36
  that,
• 27:36
  you got to say Bill Grundler did an
• 27:38
  amazing job reigning all of that in.
• 27:44
  And the double screens that they had were
• 27:46
  really cool.
• 27:47
  And then sometimes they would have in the
• 27:49
  bottom, you know, something.
• 27:51
  And then the main,
• 27:52
  you could still see the overall color.
• 27:55
  field field of play.
• 27:58
  I really like those features of the
• 28:01
  broadcast,
• 28:01
  which I hadn't seen much before.
• 28:04
  And I thought they did a really good
• 28:05
  job with that part.
• 28:06
  Oh man.
• 28:08
  My buttons are getting pushed so hard.
• 28:10
  I know.
• 28:11
  I don't,
• 28:13
  I don't even know what you come to
• 28:14
  the, like,
• 28:15
  what do you want us to do?
• 28:16
  Sit here and say that everything was
• 28:18
  perfect.
• 28:18
  Loved it.
• 28:20
  Move on.
• 28:20
  I don't know what you come on here
• 28:21
  to watch.
• 28:22
  And I,
• 28:24
  I'm not saying they aren't perfect.
• 28:25
  But like,
• 28:26
  we got to come up with something to
• 28:27
  say.
• 28:30
  What's Ken Walters talking about?
• 28:32
  I don't know.
• 28:33
  Our criticism of Crash.
• 28:38
  Which was nothing.
• 28:39
  We just said that Caroline Klutz freaking
• 28:42
  smashed it and would have got second
• 28:43
  place.
• 28:45
  I don't think that criticized the program.
• 28:48
  About the crew around that event that we
• 28:53
  can't say anything without people getting
• 28:55
  defensive.
• 28:56
  It's freaking ridiculous.
• 28:58
  We have been giving nothing but flowers to
• 29:00
  them and their broadcast.
• 29:03
  All we were doing was highlighting a woman
• 29:04
  who had an amazing weekend.
• 29:07
  It had nothing to do with anybody else.
• 29:09
  Right.
• 29:09
  And honestly,
• 29:11
  we weren't even complaining about the
• 29:13
  like,
• 29:14
  I get like some people in here are
• 29:15
  saying like it's J.R.'
• 29:16
  's event.
• 29:17
  This is more of a criticism to J.R.
• 29:20
  than the Sevan and broadcast crew.
• 29:21
  Like we just think how she should be
• 29:24
  integrated into the field.
• 29:25
  Doesn't not again,
• 29:27
  not even like shitting on the broadcast
• 29:29
  crew.
• 29:30
  I again feel like they just take
• 29:31
  everything out of context and it's going
• 29:33
  to be like, yep,
• 29:35
  we could do it so much better.
• 29:36
  No, we're just trying to give like.
• 29:39
  multiple viewpoints literally no like they
• 29:41
  just didn't talk that much about it the
• 29:43
  whole weekend and even after the fact like
• 29:46
  there was no analysis of how well she
• 29:48
  actually did the whole weekend so we're
• 29:50
  just bringing it up because i felt there
• 29:52
  was a huge story that was missed during
• 29:55
  the weekend yeah right and and
• 30:00
  They self, they have self-admitted.
• 30:02
  They're not going to cover the masters.
• 30:04
  They can't be there for fourteen hours.
• 30:06
  Then we understood that we even said that
• 30:08
  when this all started.
• 30:09
  Yes, totally.
• 30:11
  I totally agree.
• 30:13
  I understand what.
• 30:13
  Yeah.
• 30:14
  Like the first two heats of the
• 30:15
  individual, like I get why they are on.
• 30:17
  That's totally fine.
• 30:19
  Totally agree.
• 30:27
  I think it's fair to say,
• 30:28
  and should be said more about klutz.
• 30:30
  I'm just saying we did say that a
• 30:32
  few times and then focused on other
• 30:33
  athletes.
• 30:34
  Again, this was no criticism on you, John.
• 30:36
  It was just,
• 30:38
  we were highlighting what she had pulled
• 30:40
  off.
• 30:40
  That was it.
• 30:42
  Right.
• 30:43
  I'll criticize John.
• 30:44
  I thought you guys,
• 30:46
  I don't think you talked about it enough.
• 30:49
  It's hard though.
• 30:50
  It's probably like she would still have a
• 30:51
  top time and they'd be like still waiting
• 30:53
  until the final heat.
• 30:54
  Like it could like, I don't know,
• 30:56
  just something there, but yeah.
• 30:57
  I'll take,
• 30:59
  I learned in this whole process of like
• 31:01
  criticizing broadcasts and stuff,
• 31:04
  they are doing it for free and I
• 31:06
  want to watch stuff.
• 31:08
  Right.
• 31:08
  So I want them to succeed.
• 31:11
  If I have something constructive,
• 31:13
  I will say it and I will give
• 31:14
  an idea.
• 31:15
  But this weekend,
• 31:16
  I don't really think there was anything I
• 31:18
  could give them.
• 31:19
  The pictures were great.
• 31:22
  The subscreens were amazing.
• 31:24
  The fact that they're doing that with the
• 31:26
  little bit of equipment they have,
• 31:28
  putting different people in the corners
• 31:31
  and a main screen and split screens and
• 31:34
  all of that stuff was off the charts
• 31:36
  good for a free broadcast.
• 31:38
  I just think, like, at first,
• 31:40
  let's say you don't cover the Masters or
• 31:41
  whatever,
• 31:42
  but when a story starts arising in a
• 31:45
  weekend, does that make sense?
• 31:47
  Like,
• 31:47
  when a story starts happening over the
• 31:49
  weekend, then you're, like, you know,
• 31:51
  when we talk about, like, you know,
• 31:52
  a behind-the-scenes,
• 31:53
  something that's starting to happen,
• 31:55
  you start seeing klutz just would be in,
• 31:58
  like, you know,
• 31:58
  in sixth place after day one,
• 32:00
  would have been in third place after day
• 32:01
  two, and you're like...
• 32:03
  you just, I don't know.
• 32:04
  I think,
• 32:05
  I think you kind of talk about that
• 32:06
  maybe a little bit more on day three,
• 32:08
  knowing that that's kind of a story of
• 32:09
  the weekend that we didn't expect.
• 32:11
  So you just put it up there.
• 32:12
  Yeah.
• 32:13
  That's all.
• 32:15
  My only criticism during the event had
• 32:18
  nothing to do with the broadcast or Jr.
• 32:20
  It had to do with a third party
• 32:22
  media person who was not part of the
• 32:24
  broadcast where page had to go around them
• 32:27
  because they were standing in the middle
• 32:28
  of her lane.
• 32:29
  Yeah.
• 32:30
  That pissed me off.
• 32:31
  What event was that?
• 32:33
  The final event, the flip, this fled.
• 32:36
  Yeah.
• 32:36
  Also, I think flip the flip side.
• 32:39
  I think it also happened when she came
• 32:41
  off the rope to go leave to run.
• 32:42
  I think they were in her lane.
• 32:45
  That's I didn't notice that gets,
• 32:47
  gets on my nerves.
• 32:48
  You should not be in a lane where
• 32:50
  an athlete is going to run.
• 32:58
  I I would name names if I knew
• 33:00
  who it was I could not tell by
• 33:02
  the picture who it was uh how cool
• 33:09
  was it to see Colton's row monitor I
• 33:10
  had no idea they went that high on
• 33:12
  the pools
• 33:13
  Yeah.
• 33:15
  He hit his, uh,
• 33:16
  roll monitor and like his bike,
• 33:17
  like he's gone so much better on the
• 33:19
  machines and it's not just as his ability
• 33:22
  to suffer and just put his head down
• 33:24
  and do work is just so impressive.
• 33:27
  Um,
• 33:27
  what I like the most is just like
• 33:28
  the interviews as the athletes are still
• 33:31
  finishing the workout,
• 33:32
  like people that are just finished the,
• 33:35
  the, the whole, you know,
• 33:37
  the one they're heat and they're just
• 33:38
  doing an interview while you see other
• 33:39
  people are still dying for minutes after I
• 33:41
  think is hilarious.
• 33:44
  i'm like oh my gosh these like and
• 33:47
  they're like perfectly fine talking and uh
• 33:49
  yeah but i don't think it was hillary
• 33:53
  it was not you hillary unless you have
• 33:55
  a guilty conscience maybe it happened when
• 33:56
  i didn't see it yeah um did you
• 34:00
  see tyler yeah tyler yeah after rescoring
• 34:05
  and throwing her in and now other masters
• 34:07
  athletes she would have gotten second
• 34:08
  that's awesome coming from the math
• 34:10
  teacher i knew i did my math right
• 34:12
  And I don't think it matters if you
• 34:14
  don't put in the other Masters.
• 34:17
  Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 34:18
  It's not even close.
• 34:19
  It's like thirty-something points,
• 34:21
  I think.
• 34:22
  She's still one more money getting first
• 34:24
  in Masters.
• 34:25
  That's why, in a way,
• 34:27
  I think JR is pushing her in the
• 34:29
  correct direction.
• 34:31
  It was more money there than a
• 34:32
  second-place elite?
• 34:33
  Yes.
• 34:35
  But the first...
• 34:36
  place in both categories was fairly high
• 34:38
  and then like second and third is a
• 34:39
  lot lower and so he's he's doing the
• 34:41
  right thing again my only thing is why
• 34:43
  not just let them compete the weekend
• 34:46
  anywhere on the floor and still have their
• 34:48
  own leaderboard off to the side that's my
• 34:51
  only thing i would really like to see
• 34:54
  her make a push on the individual side
• 34:58
  i know uh carolyn just got mad she
• 35:02
  didn't go yeah i just was like
• 35:06
  It could have been the rematch of the
• 35:07
  games.
• 35:08
  You and Caroline head to head.
• 35:10
  Yeah.
• 35:10
  I did like those day two workouts.
• 35:11
  And day one.
• 35:12
  Day one and day two.
• 35:18
  Yeah.
• 35:19
  There's some of those I would have liked.
• 35:23
  I just wanted you to mess me up
• 35:25
  if you weren't naming names for some
• 35:26
  reason.
• 35:27
  No, it wasn't you.
• 35:28
  It truly wasn't.
• 35:28
  I believe it was someone that they had
• 35:30
  hired to do work for Crash specifically.
• 35:34
  But I don't know for sure because I
• 35:37
  know it's nobody on the Savon crew that
• 35:39
  I saw in her lane.
• 35:41
  And she literally had to run around him
• 35:44
  to get down the lane.
• 35:47
  She was impressive in that last event.
• 35:49
  She smashed that.
• 35:51
  Like she's what,
• 35:52
  eight and a half months postpartum?
• 35:57
  I'm excited to see what she'll do at
• 35:58
  Rogue.
• 36:00
  Did she win the Rogue qualifier?
• 36:03
  She won WFP Challenger Division.
• 36:05
  She won the qualifier for Rogue.
• 36:08
  Comes back here.
• 36:10
  She's going to be, I think,
• 36:13
  good at Rogue.
• 36:15
  She's starting to find her stride again.
• 36:19
  We have a factor fiction about that.
• 36:20
  Yeah.
• 36:21
  And the first couple are actually,
• 36:23
  I haven't read.
• 36:25
  So let's do the first couple because they
• 36:28
  are crash based.
• 36:29
  Okay.
• 36:31
  And she's only twenty two.
• 36:32
  I know.
• 36:32
  That's crazy.
• 36:40
  I was stressed watching her GHD at Mayhem,
• 36:43
  but not here.
• 36:45
  Yeah, she looked she looked great.
• 36:48
  Just great.
• 36:49
  All right.
• 36:49
  So here we go.
• 36:51
  First factor fiction.
• 36:54
  Do we put too much stock in these
• 36:56
  off season competitions?
• 36:57
  Oh, you're doing that one first.
• 37:01
  Yeah.
• 37:01
  I moved them around a little bit.
• 37:02
  So they would be right after this.
• 37:05
  Okay.
• 37:06
  I'm going to say fact.
• 37:09
  I'm going to say fiction.
• 37:11
  Like I think for one,
• 37:16
  There's become a lot more of these
• 37:18
  off-season competitions to the point where
• 37:23
  there's the depth.
• 37:24
  The athlete pool is so different at every
• 37:27
  comp.
• 37:28
  The programming is so different.
• 37:31
  So I think you can't hone in on
• 37:33
  these specific comps and be like,
• 37:36
  this is the tell for the rest of
• 37:37
  the season.
• 37:39
  You just can't.
• 37:42
  But I think you can analyze a lot
• 37:44
  of things in this type of field.
• 37:46
  You have a bunch of athletes here that
• 37:48
  are very high-level athletes.
• 37:51
  You're getting,
• 37:52
  especially in a weekend like Crash with
• 37:54
  this programming,
• 37:57
  I think you're getting to see what
• 37:59
  athletes can do on these type of workouts.
• 38:01
  And sometimes you get holes exposed at
• 38:04
  this event,
• 38:04
  but you don't get them at another event.
• 38:07
  And it's just like, I don't know,
• 38:08
  I still think that they're –
• 38:10
  um,
• 38:11
  reliable data points that you can look at
• 38:15
  and start looking at what people's
• 38:17
  strengths and weaknesses are.
• 38:18
  Cause I mean,
• 38:19
  CrossFit is just very hard to predict
• 38:21
  sometimes because it's all different
• 38:22
  combinations and it takes the one movement
• 38:24
  sometimes that you think, you know,
• 38:26
  someone has really good kipping handstand
• 38:27
  pushups, good strict handstand pushups,
• 38:30
  and all of a sudden it's strict deficit
• 38:31
  and they don't have them.
• 38:33
  Like, it's like, we're all
• 38:35
  not all,
• 38:35
  but like very movement dependent program
• 38:37
  dependent.
• 38:38
  So I don't know.
• 38:40
  I feel like all of the athletes that
• 38:41
  were there this weekend,
• 38:42
  like they showed up ready for this to
• 38:45
  see where they're at right now.
• 38:46
  And some of them may use that as
• 38:48
  an excuse and be like, Oh,
• 38:49
  I'm in off season and not ready because
• 38:51
  they don't perform well.
• 38:52
  That's my other thing with it.
• 38:53
  Because you don't perform well.
• 38:54
  If you all of a sudden you perform
• 38:55
  well.
• 38:56
  you've been working all this off season
• 38:58
  for this event to show your stuff you
• 39:01
  don't perform well and here comes the
• 39:03
  other side of things so the reason this
• 39:05
  came to my head was i look at
• 39:07
  chris ibarra he does the first event looks
• 39:09
  like he's gonna keel over and he's like
• 39:12
  he was a last minute ad
• 39:15
  was he not as prepared as other athletes
• 39:17
  because he was a late addition to the
• 39:19
  field?
• 39:20
  Do we put stock in that?
• 39:21
  And then I think back to like James
• 39:23
  last year with water Palooza and all the
• 39:26
  off season stuff,
• 39:27
  it did tell a story to us what
• 39:30
  was going on with him.
• 39:31
  And he, so I think it's like,
• 39:33
  I think someone made a good point.
• 39:35
  Did we learn anything about Colton?
• 39:36
  Probably not.
• 39:39
  Colton did well at the things he does
• 39:40
  well at.
• 39:42
  He's super fit.
• 39:44
  He's going to do well in a lot
• 39:45
  of events.
• 39:46
  I'm not sure we learned a lot about
• 39:47
  him,
• 39:47
  but I think we learned a hell of
• 39:49
  a lot about Paige.
• 39:51
  Yes.
• 39:52
  Well, I mean, of course,
• 39:52
  we haven't seen her compete in over a
• 39:55
  year.
• 39:57
  I think we learned a lot about Reese
• 39:59
  Littlewood.
• 40:00
  Maddie Fouts.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  There's a lot of athletes that we,
• 40:03
  you know,
• 40:03
  Caitlin has gone better at a lot of
• 40:06
  like a lot of other things,
• 40:07
  but still has some,
• 40:09
  some holes in some of the higher skill
• 40:10
  gymnastics.
• 40:11
  And like,
• 40:11
  who knows if it wasn't strict deficit,
• 40:14
  how like it would have affected her
• 40:15
  weekend.
• 40:15
  If it wasn't as pulling intensive on the
• 40:19
  other,
• 40:19
  like sometimes you can hide holes in
• 40:21
  certain events.
• 40:22
  Yeah.
• 40:23
  But I mean,
• 40:24
  I think you learned a lot about a
• 40:25
  lot of athletes this weekend.
• 40:28
  Yeah.
• 40:28
  I mean,
• 40:29
  I think we expected a lot more out
• 40:31
  of Cairo and Carol and Stanley and didn't
• 40:35
  get what we expected.
• 40:39
  But again, do people say it's off season?
• 40:40
  So then you're like, Oh, is it really,
• 40:42
  are they just not peaked for this?
• 40:43
  Like, I don't know.
• 40:44
  That kind of stuff is,
• 40:47
  Coffee pods mods.
• 40:48
  You're only as good as your last event
• 40:49
  without off season events mattering.
• 40:52
  We have nothing to talk about.
• 40:53
  I agree.
• 40:55
  I just,
• 40:56
  I just want to know as an analyst,
• 40:57
  how much stock we put into the
• 40:58
  performance.
• 40:59
  But I think this is an event that's
• 41:01
  a way higher class than a lot of
• 41:02
  the other off season.
• 41:03
  So I think an event like crash,
• 41:05
  it does matter.
• 41:07
  An event like a local competition that has
• 41:09
  two athletes that are top level.
• 41:11
  No,
• 41:11
  I'm not putting a lot of weight on
• 41:12
  that.
• 41:13
  but this one,
• 41:14
  like people are training for this and
• 41:16
  they, they have prepared for,
• 41:18
  for this event and the events were out
• 41:20
  and they,
• 41:20
  they practiced them and they had other
• 41:22
  people practice them for that.
• 41:23
  Like it's, it's a,
• 41:26
  it's a higher level competition.
• 41:28
  It's a,
• 41:30
  do you think Jr will invite Colton or
• 41:32
  page next year?
• 41:33
  Are they too late for the,
• 41:35
  this competition?
• 41:36
  I think he invites them.
• 41:37
  Colton wants to do it all the time.
• 41:39
  He doesn't care.
• 41:40
  Yeah.
• 41:40
  I don't think he's going to not let
• 41:41
  them come.
• 41:43
  How many eyes do those two athletes bring?
• 41:45
  So many.
• 41:46
  As an event organizer,
• 41:47
  you need to factor in all of that
• 41:49
  stuff, right?
• 41:50
  Who's going to make people watch Colton
• 41:53
  page.
• 41:54
  People are going to watch because of those
• 41:55
  two people.
• 41:56
  So yeah.
• 42:00
  Yeah.
• 42:00
  Wow.
• 42:01
  The comments are flying in.
• 42:04
  All right.
• 42:04
  So next, next factor fiction.
• 42:08
  Page Rogers slash powers will be a top
• 42:10
  ten athlete this season.
• 42:16
  I put pen.
• 42:18
  Oh, yeah.
• 42:22
  Sharpie.
• 42:22
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  I different game.
• 42:25
  That's next week.
• 42:28
  Wait, what was it?
• 42:28
  It was pencil, pen and Sharpie.
• 42:30
  Yeah, Sharpie.
• 42:32
  Yeah, I think um,
• 42:36
  Yeah, I'd be very close to Sharpie.
• 42:38
  I think she's clearly coming back in the
• 42:40
  right ways.
• 42:42
  And if the only thing she's really
• 42:43
  concerned about is strength,
• 42:46
  she's going to have that locked in by
• 42:48
  August.
• 42:49
  She'll have it locked in enough for semis.
• 42:54
  She was a good athlete before she had
• 42:56
  the...
• 42:57
  base gymnastic skills um if she if she
• 43:02
  just hearing her talk and like she even
• 43:04
  said like she thinks she might come back
• 43:06
  better and that's scary to hear someone
• 43:09
  like that say that all right uh tens
• 43:13
  high can't trust one-year-olds terry says
• 43:15
  fact craig fact uh
• 43:20
  Kenneth Pencil,
• 43:21
  women's top ten is stacked already.
• 43:24
  John Young,
• 43:25
  Paige gets fifteenth at the twenty twenty
• 43:26
  six CrossFit Games already forming his
• 43:29
  mountain.
• 43:29
  OK.
• 43:33
  Especially when Magala and Horvath return.
• 43:35
  We already talked about Horvath's return
• 43:37
  last week in Pencil Sharpie.
• 43:39
  Yeah.
• 43:43
  Is her environment around her set up to
• 43:44
  continue her trajectory of financially
• 43:47
  speaking?
• 43:50
  I don't know either.
• 43:51
  It's been spoken.
• 43:58
  I agree with John.
• 44:07
  I said it and then threw up in
• 44:08
  my mouth.
• 44:09
  Yeah, I've had that happen before too.
• 44:13
  Okay.
• 44:14
  I think...
• 44:15
  I do think she's a possible top-ten
• 44:17
  athlete, but it is vicious, the top-ten.
• 44:21
  And there's a couple young and
• 44:23
  up-and-comers that are really special,
• 44:26
  and we don't know where they're going to
• 44:28
  be.
• 44:28
  Emma Lawson's going to be back in the
• 44:30
  field next year.
• 44:32
  There's a lot.
• 44:33
  But then we don't know who we're losing
• 44:34
  either.
• 44:34
  Right.
• 44:37
  Everything's so fluid at this point.
• 44:43
  Lydia Fish has got to get stronger.
• 44:47
  Yeah.
• 44:48
  Someone like Miriam is going to continue
• 44:49
  to get better.
• 44:50
  She's still very new to the sport and
• 44:52
  she had a great year.
• 44:55
  There are a lot of really good,
• 44:57
  you know,
• 44:58
  female athletes coming that are young and
• 45:00
  hungry.
• 45:01
  That's for sure.
• 45:02
  What Reese Littlewood proved to me this
• 45:04
  weekend is she can handle a little bit
• 45:05
  heavier than I thought she could.
• 45:08
  And that has really ticked her up on
• 45:11
  my mind.
• 45:13
  Now, John,
• 45:14
  so you can't say I'm a late bloomer.
• 45:16
  I think Reese Littlewood is special.
• 45:17
  I think she's going to do some amazing
• 45:19
  things.
• 45:20
  Even Miley.
• 45:22
  I was worried about some of those weights
• 45:23
  for Miley and she shocked me.
• 45:26
  Didn't Miley clean and jerk like two forty
• 45:28
  at the games?
• 45:29
  Like something like that?
• 45:30
  Like she's not weak.
• 45:31
  Yeah, she's not.
• 45:33
  Why are we talking like she's like weak?
• 45:35
  She's not weak.
• 45:36
  So little.
• 45:38
  But she's still strong in the Olympic
• 45:39
  lifts.
• 45:39
  It's just probably just like the brute
• 45:41
  strength stuff or like the odd object
• 45:43
  where you need a little bit more weight
• 45:44
  on the sleds.
• 45:45
  She moved the sled better than some of
• 45:48
  the bigger girls.
• 45:48
  That's what I'm saying.
• 45:49
  I was just really impressed with her
• 45:52
  strength.
• 45:53
  I didn't expect to see it.
• 45:56
  You know who moved the sled?
• 45:57
  I've known Amy Hosking for a long time
• 45:59
  through the semifinal series as we've
• 46:01
  done.
• 46:01
  She's not a large athlete.
• 46:03
  And the way she flipped that sled at
• 46:05
  the end was awesome.
• 46:06
  I was so glad that she got that
• 46:07
  win at the end of the weekend.
• 46:11
  She's just a good person.
• 46:23
  Uh,
• 46:23
  Reese is also an excellent interviewee.
• 46:25
  She is, she's really good.
• 46:28
  All right.
• 46:29
  Next one.
• 46:29
  Oh, the, the,
• 46:32
  not we're done with the crash stuff.
• 46:34
  Okay.
• 46:35
  Can I give one shout out to someone
• 46:36
  from crash?
• 46:37
  You can Liz.
• 46:39
  She had a great day two or day
• 46:41
  three.
• 46:41
  I talked to her on the phone,
• 46:42
  like after me and Lex were calling her
• 46:44
  after, um,
• 46:46
  Like each night we chatted about the
• 46:47
  following day and like her goal was to
• 46:50
  get on the podium and she was so
• 46:52
  close.
• 46:53
  Um,
• 46:53
  she had a great day three today and
• 46:56
  shout out to Liz.
• 46:57
  Cause yeah, she was awesome this weekend.
• 46:59
  I agree.
• 47:02
  A big Wishart fan.
• 47:04
  Yeah.
• 47:04
  She's great.
• 47:06
  I do agree with CrossFit on this.
• 47:08
  The interviews during the final athletes
• 47:10
  was fun.
• 47:11
  I like that.
• 47:11
  Not just turning out while last place
• 47:15
  finishes.
• 47:15
  Yeah.
• 47:16
  Or tuning out while last place finishes.
• 47:18
  I loved the interviews right off the
• 47:21
  floor.
• 47:23
  Allowing them to sit down and have that
• 47:25
  conversation and not like trying to catch
• 47:27
  them as they're walking, breathing heavy.
• 47:30
  Let them sit down,
• 47:31
  get a good conversation with them for a
• 47:33
  couple minutes.
• 47:34
  Really well done on that too.
• 47:38
  I honestly,
• 47:38
  the one year I was at Syndicate,
• 47:42
  we had a table and chair back there
• 47:44
  where if people wanted to sit down,
• 47:45
  they could.
• 47:46
  And it really did make a difference in
• 47:48
  getting a good quality interview.
• 47:54
  Oh, man.
• 47:54
  A sweaty chair, though.
• 47:55
  Yeah, just don't get the padded chair.
• 47:58
  Get just the smooth metal chair so it
• 47:59
  just runs off.
• 48:01
  You can wipe it down with a Lysol
• 48:02
  wipe.
• 48:05
  Seven did not smell the chair.
• 48:07
  Tell me that's a joke.
• 48:08
  Like I can totally see him doing that,
• 48:11
  but I miss that if that happened.
• 48:16
  Honest question.
• 48:16
  How many elite athletes are overrated
• 48:18
  compared to their actual performances on
• 48:20
  competition?
• 48:22
  See,
• 48:22
  I don't know if it's overrated or if
• 48:25
  it's just exposed with certain programming
• 48:28
  that we're dependent on.
• 48:29
  Like if you get the right combination of
• 48:32
  things, certain athletes will excel.
• 48:33
  And if they don't get the right ones,
• 48:35
  then they don't do well.
• 48:37
  And is it overrated or is it just
• 48:39
  program dependent?
• 48:41
  But I think there's also an element that
• 48:43
  certain athletes just crash a little bit
• 48:46
  more mentally in an event.
• 48:48
  Like if it's things aren't going well for
• 48:50
  you,
• 48:51
  Mentally,
• 48:51
  it's a little bit harder to struggle.
• 48:53
  It's a little bit harder to run to
• 48:54
  the next transition.
• 48:56
  So there's a huge mental aspect in
• 48:58
  competing that definitely is there.
• 49:01
  But I think it's very program dependent as
• 49:04
  well.
• 49:05
  I don't know if it's overrated, but...
• 49:07
  I think a better way to put it
• 49:08
  in the CrossFit space is there are
• 49:10
  athletes that are overexposed,
• 49:12
  meaning that we see them all the time.
• 49:15
  They have a big following.
• 49:16
  You hear about them all the time.
• 49:18
  They have things done about them.
• 49:20
  And so they're always out there.
• 49:22
  And maybe it's like the Anna Kournikova
• 49:25
  saga of tennis from the nineteen nineties.
• 49:30
  Always being interviewed,
• 49:31
  always in the spotlight,
• 49:32
  but the performance on the court never
• 49:34
  kind of matches up with that.
• 49:38
  And I do think we have some people
• 49:39
  that have not proven themselves on the
• 49:41
  floor yet.
• 49:42
  Yeah.
• 49:45
  And then also when you're competing
• 49:47
  against a different field,
• 49:48
  you have different people affecting you
• 49:50
  and, and results in the events.
• 49:53
  So that's, you know,
• 49:54
  if you're always competing,
• 49:54
  it's the same field all year round,
• 49:57
  it's different, but you're,
• 49:58
  you're going to get outliers in every
• 49:59
  field that you have that just have these
• 50:01
  strengths or that can kind of make you
• 50:04
  look bad sometimes.
• 50:05
  Yeah.
• 50:06
  CrossFat, I think this is unfair to Sarah.
• 50:10
  Erica Folo has not even made it to
• 50:12
  the game.
• 50:13
  Sarah,
• 50:13
  two third-place finishes behind Katrin
• 50:16
  David's daughter and Tia Claire Toomey.
• 50:19
  Back-to-back years.
• 50:21
  When Erica Folo does that,
• 50:23
  then we can make a comparison.
• 50:24
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 50:31
  I mean, it's... Sometimes you... Like,
• 50:33
  yeah, Hiller makes a video about somebody.
• 50:35
  You...
• 50:36
  want to root for them you want you
• 50:39
  want them to do well so yeah sometimes
• 50:42
  the reality isn't quite there with what
• 50:45
  we're hoping for follow i just think that
• 50:47
  she didn't adapt to some of the new
• 50:49
  elements and that's one of the reasons she
• 50:51
  wanted to go to crash is to kind
• 50:52
  of face you know these different like not
• 50:55
  materials um equipment pieces that she
• 50:58
  doesn't necessarily train with
• 51:01
  she has some very, very good strengths.
• 51:05
  Obviously we saw an event one,
• 51:07
  how good she is at a squatter and
• 51:09
  speed,
• 51:09
  but she still has to get better at
• 51:11
  adapting to new things.
• 51:14
  Like the sled was,
• 51:15
  was a challenge for her and the P
• 51:17
  bars this weekend.
• 51:17
  And then once things aren't going your
• 51:19
  way, like I said,
• 51:20
  I think mentally she just kind of lost
• 51:23
  confidence.
• 51:24
  I think over the weekend.
• 51:26
  So hopefully she can get that back in
• 51:29
  the next few months and continue on.
• 51:33
  Kenneth DeLapp,
• 51:33
  surprised this Canada-based bias show
• 51:36
  isn't more on the follow train.
• 51:39
  I like her.
• 51:39
  She has to prove herself on the floor
• 51:42
  first.
• 51:44
  She has some stuff that she's really,
• 51:46
  really good at.
• 51:47
  And I think there's some areas this
• 51:50
  weekend that she could have been better.
• 51:52
  And I don't know if it's just because
• 51:53
  things weren't going right that
• 51:55
  Maybe mentally she wasn't as in it after.
• 51:59
  Confidence plays a big role in competing
• 52:02
  in a lot of sports.
• 52:04
  So I want to ask you a question.
• 52:07
  When I interviewed Colton at his first
• 52:09
  CrossFit Games and he didn't make the
• 52:12
  first cut,
• 52:13
  He said to me during that conversation
• 52:15
  that he had to spend so much time
• 52:17
  getting better at the stuff that got him
• 52:19
  to the games that he didn't have time
• 52:22
  to work on the stuff to be better
• 52:24
  at, at the games.
• 52:27
  Someone like Erica Folo,
• 52:28
  I would look at and say,
• 52:30
  you're going to crash.
• 52:30
  You should do odd objects.
• 52:32
  You know,
• 52:32
  it's going to be crazy stuff you've never
• 52:34
  seen before,
• 52:35
  but maybe she's not good enough on the
• 52:37
  basics and her coaches can't get her to
• 52:39
  that point yet until they fix the basic
• 52:42
  stuff.
• 52:45
  See,
• 52:45
  I think she's really good in the gym
• 52:47
  stuff.
• 52:47
  Like she traditionally does well in like
• 52:50
  the open, in the online quarterfinals,
• 52:52
  stuff like that.
• 52:53
  So she does do well when she's in
• 52:56
  that traditional CrossFit workout.
• 53:00
  Where did she fall on the rope climb
• 53:03
  on today?
• 53:05
  But we don't see a lot of like
• 53:06
  legless pegboard stuff online.
• 53:13
  I mean,
• 53:14
  I just feel like you're either good at
• 53:16
  legless or not.
• 53:17
  Yeah.
• 53:18
  And I feel like I feel like her
• 53:20
  pulling.
• 53:21
  I think she was last place.
• 53:22
  I feel like her pulling capacity is not
• 53:24
  there.
• 53:25
  Like that stuff that.
• 53:28
  OK, it's not basic, but.
• 53:32
  You should be doing legless rope climbs.
• 53:34
  as somebody who wants to make it yeah
• 53:36
  so she was she was in last place
• 53:37
  on the on the pull workout from today
• 53:40
  that's an upper body strength issue like
• 53:43
  she's got to do more pulling yeah uh
• 53:49
  tristan believes in me yeah i i totally
• 53:53
  agree with you i think that that might
• 53:55
  be a better starting point for them like
• 54:02
  let's just
• 54:03
  continue to get better at the basics like
• 54:05
  all right okay so we've spent almost an
• 54:11
  hour on crash okay um we're gonna hit
• 54:14
  some other topics i'm sure crash will come
• 54:16
  out some more as we move along but
• 54:18
  we have a couple more just fun um
• 54:23
  fun factor fictions
• 54:25
  And I did this because of a
• 54:27
  behind-the-scenes that was done by one of
• 54:31
  the Savon people.
• 54:33
  It was as many clips as possible and
• 54:35
  whatever minutes.
• 54:36
  And he was asking people,
• 54:37
  who's your rival?
• 54:39
  So I said, fact or fiction,
• 54:41
  everyone has a rival in the gym.
• 54:45
  Whether you're an elite athlete or not,
• 54:47
  you go to the gym and you're there
• 54:49
  for the
• 54:52
  Fact.
• 54:53
  Yeah, a hundred percent fact.
• 54:54
  You're racing someone.
• 54:56
  Even if they have a different version of
• 54:57
  the workout than you,
• 54:59
  you're racing a score.
• 55:02
  You're racing something.
• 55:05
  When I first went into CrossFit,
• 55:07
  there was a guy there named Todd Hare.
• 55:10
  He was good at all the stuff I
• 55:11
  wasn't,
• 55:11
  and he was bad at the stuff I
• 55:12
  was good at.
• 55:14
  And he was my rival,
• 55:17
  and he was my...
• 55:19
  And I wanted to beat him so bad.
• 55:21
  And I knew every time we went out
• 55:23
  for a run,
• 55:24
  I was going to lose ground.
• 55:25
  But I better cycle that barbell as fast
• 55:27
  as I possibly could.
• 55:30
  And he made me so much better because
• 55:32
  of that.
• 55:34
  Absolutely.
• 55:35
  Because I pushed every time more than I
• 55:37
  needed to.
• 55:39
  I mean, I would say that is the...
• 55:42
  That is the reason CrossFit became
• 55:45
  successful is the class structure breeds
• 55:50
  the intensity that you just can't get
• 55:52
  anywhere else.
• 55:52
  And the people come from other sports
• 55:54
  backgrounds and come and they're like,
• 55:55
  that's what they're missing when they get
• 55:57
  out of sports and they find it in
• 55:59
  CrossFit.
• 55:59
  Yes,
• 56:00
  they definitely have a rival in the gym.
• 56:02
  There is somebody you're chasing.
• 56:04
  nicole sherman fact even if they're in a
• 56:07
  different class always checking the
• 56:08
  leaderboards she does pull up pull up uh
• 56:11
  the cracks or cross that one i think
• 56:12
  i think it was cross that i don't
• 56:17
  have rival rivals all the guys beating me
• 56:20
  are cheating yes uh kenneth's lap i've
• 56:25
  never spoken to my rival but they damn
• 56:27
  sure are my rivals yep
• 56:32
  Lots of facts on this one.
• 56:33
  Larry Young, everyone is his rival.
• 56:34
  And I took that personally.
• 56:42
  And I took that personally,
• 56:43
  Michael Jordan meme.
• 56:48
  Fact,
• 56:49
  feels good when you beat that certain
• 56:50
  someone in your gym.
• 56:51
  It does.
• 56:54
  It does.
• 56:56
  Yeah.
• 56:57
  Next one.
• 57:02
  fact or fiction the sourdough bread craze
• 57:05
  is completely makes sense i'm gonna say
• 57:09
  fact like the making of it or like
• 57:14
  eating eating like why is it such this
• 57:17
  big thing like everybody's making it
• 57:20
  everybody's eating it i have seen that
• 57:22
  there's a couple people that are making it
• 57:24
  but i don't i mean i like it
• 57:25
  but i don't care for it so i'm
• 57:27
  gonna say fiction
• 57:31
  I don't like the taste of it.
• 57:33
  But then someone explained to me that if
• 57:35
  you're going to eat bread,
• 57:37
  it's the best bread to eat because of
• 57:40
  the live enzymes in it.
• 57:42
  We talked about this earlier in the week,
• 57:44
  and I've had feedback about it.
• 57:48
  I just can't do it.
• 57:50
  The sourness in the bread is awful to
• 57:52
  me.
• 57:53
  You got to get like the flavored,
• 57:54
  like you can do other things with the
• 57:56
  sourdough.
• 57:57
  Like you can make like a pumpkin
• 57:59
  sourdough.
• 57:59
  I mean, yes,
• 58:00
  it's all going to be kind of sour,
• 58:02
  but I think because there's so much you
• 58:05
  can do with it.
• 58:06
  And I think it's a nice project for
• 58:10
  some people to work on.
• 58:11
  Like the time and energy,
• 58:13
  the love you have to put into that.
• 58:14
  I think it totally makes sense.
• 58:16
  I think it's a good hobby for people
• 58:18
  to get behind and to make your own
• 58:20
  bread and
• 58:22
  like that the health benefits of that as
• 58:24
  opposed to going and buying it yeah i
• 58:26
  think i think it's it makes someone this
• 58:28
  week said it was the kombucha of bread
• 58:31
  yes i saw your clip yeah uh the
• 58:39
  seamy spikes your glucose the same as
• 58:41
  white bread for most interesting
• 58:46
  exactly scott the only bread that's good
• 58:48
  for me is the only bread i don't
• 58:49
  want god is so cruel yep i'm with
• 58:52
  you i don't i really don't even like
• 58:55
  i'm not even a bread guy except for
• 58:58
  when i want a sandwich and and that's
• 59:00
  not like all the time just but when
• 59:02
  i want a sandwich i want like really
• 59:03
  good bread um okay
• 59:13
  it's fine,
• 59:14
  but it's a female equivalent of brewing
• 59:15
  your own beer.
• 59:16
  I agree with that.
• 59:19
  A slightly better hobby, I might say.
• 59:23
  I used to brew my own beer.
• 59:24
  It was really tasty.
• 59:27
  All right, last one.
• 59:29
  Factor fiction.
• 59:30
  CrossFit's new Forging Elite Fitness will
• 59:33
  make more impact than F the Fix CrossFit's
• 59:36
  The Cure.
• 59:41
  So I wrote back, unfortunately,
• 59:44
  unfortunately for me,
• 59:45
  I think this is a fact.
• 59:48
  I think,
• 59:50
  I think part of the issue is like
• 59:55
  the sport side.
• 59:56
  I still think is what draws some people
• 1:00:00
  to the,
• 1:00:02
  to the sport and into the gym.
• 1:00:04
  And that's,
• 1:00:05
  so I think that that going back to
• 1:00:07
  that fortune elite fitness will be a
• 1:00:10
  bigger media campaign.
• 1:00:12
  I don't know why we can't seem to
• 1:00:14
  like make headway health wise.
• 1:00:17
  And I mean,
• 1:00:18
  probably just because big pharma media is
• 1:00:20
  so big that like,
• 1:00:21
  we'll never get to those people.
• 1:00:23
  Like the people that need to see,
• 1:00:26
  you know, the, the quick fix,
• 1:00:29
  like they're not going to see it.
• 1:00:31
  We,
• 1:00:31
  I don't know how to get through to
• 1:00:32
  them.
• 1:00:32
  Like that should be the message that's out
• 1:00:34
  there and it should get through to people,
• 1:00:36
  but I just don't think it's going to.
• 1:00:40
  I want the best fitness I can possibly
• 1:00:42
  get.
• 1:00:43
  So I want elite fitness.
• 1:00:45
  I think in our brains it's turned into
• 1:00:47
  like high-end athlete.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  And that's really not what it is.
• 1:00:52
  I want the best fitness I can possibly
• 1:00:55
  get.
• 1:00:56
  And that would be the elite of the
• 1:00:58
  fitness possibilities.
• 1:01:00
  But if you have to explain it this
• 1:01:02
  much,
• 1:01:02
  I don't know how effective it is as
• 1:01:04
  a marketing brand.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  I do personally, I like the F the,
• 1:01:10
  the fix, the quick fix,
• 1:01:12
  but I think that might've been too harsh.
• 1:01:15
  Maybe.
• 1:01:17
  Right.
• 1:01:18
  So like, where do, where do we land?
• 1:01:20
  I personally don't like the F word there.
• 1:01:22
  I'm,
• 1:01:23
  but I'm coming from the F with the
• 1:01:27
  asterisks.
• 1:01:28
  I know, but I just,
• 1:01:28
  it's a teacher in me.
• 1:01:31
  Like just crosses or, you know, uh, um,
• 1:01:38
  Yeah,
• 1:01:38
  it's hard because like the people that
• 1:01:40
  people see on Instagram are the big
• 1:01:42
  followers,
• 1:01:43
  athletes and the things that we put out,
• 1:01:46
  you know, we're walking on our hands,
• 1:01:49
  we're doing ring muscle ups,
• 1:01:50
  we're doing these things that people think
• 1:01:52
  is so not achievable and attainable to
• 1:01:55
  their lives that they they see CrossFit
• 1:01:57
  and they think I need to get in
• 1:01:59
  shape or I'm never going to do that.
• 1:02:01
  I can't do that.
• 1:02:01
  I'm not going to do CrossFit.
• 1:02:03
  So it's just hard because
• 1:02:06
  Yeah, like the health part.
• 1:02:07
  And then the NSCA study from years ago
• 1:02:13
  is still affecting a lot of our brand
• 1:02:17
  in CrossFit with the injury rates that
• 1:02:20
  they would say that we had that was
• 1:02:24
  falsely made up.
• 1:02:25
  So yeah,
• 1:02:28
  the CrossFit is the cure while the idea
• 1:02:33
  is...
• 1:02:35
  important it's just hard to for a lot
• 1:02:37
  of people to get behind crossfit like it
• 1:02:39
  still has a bad rep like yeah like
• 1:02:41
  you still almost have to like sell what
• 1:02:44
  you do and like like basically like train
• 1:02:47
  people and don't tell them it's crossfit
• 1:02:49
  and then when they're like oh i like
• 1:02:50
  that and i'm like that's crossfit that's
• 1:02:51
  how i train you know but i don't
• 1:02:54
  lead with that
• 1:02:55
  It's like, it's, it's weird because like,
• 1:02:57
  I know it works, but you,
• 1:03:00
  when you lead with CrossFit,
• 1:03:02
  there's this like,
• 1:03:03
  people are scared that because there's all
• 1:03:07
  these images that like, they'll get hurt.
• 1:03:09
  And I don't know why.
• 1:03:13
  It's still like a taboo word almost.
• 1:03:19
  I mean,
• 1:03:21
  what it comes down to is it truly
• 1:03:24
  is hard work.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  People are lazy and people do not want
• 1:03:28
  to put in that hard of work.
• 1:03:31
  And they don't want to hear the quick
• 1:03:33
  fix.
• 1:03:34
  They want the quick fix.
• 1:03:35
  No one wants to work that hard.
• 1:03:38
  You have hard work with at forty five
• 1:03:41
  orange theory,
• 1:03:42
  which are which are knockoffs of of
• 1:03:44
  CrossFit.
• 1:03:48
  It needs to be more than that,
• 1:03:49
  like what what makes.
• 1:03:52
  like it's the coaching also that needs,
• 1:03:54
  cause like those at fourty fives,
• 1:03:55
  like you're not getting the coaching
• 1:03:56
  heavy.
• 1:03:56
  Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  Well,
• 1:03:58
  it's not as heavy and it's a shorter
• 1:04:00
  class.
• 1:04:00
  Like I don't think they're ever going to
• 1:04:04
  like, whatever, whatever works for them.
• 1:04:06
  Great.
• 1:04:07
  If you're going to show up,
• 1:04:08
  go do it.
• 1:04:08
  Like if at fourty five is it go
• 1:04:10
  do it.
• 1:04:11
  I,
• 1:04:11
  but CrossFit does include heavy lifting.
• 1:04:15
  I personally, that's how I got, like,
• 1:04:17
  that's how I found my best self is
• 1:04:20
  putting on muscle.
• 1:04:21
  Like,
• 1:04:22
  I, my, like my, I don't,
• 1:04:24
  I can't even,
• 1:04:25
  I want other people to experience that.
• 1:04:27
  It just see what your body can do.
• 1:04:30
  You'll burn so much more calories through
• 1:04:31
  the day when you have muscle on your
• 1:04:33
  body.
• 1:04:33
  But I mean, I like,
• 1:04:35
  I've said this before.
• 1:04:36
  I've had people come into my gym and
• 1:04:37
  they're like,
• 1:04:37
  I don't want to look like you.
• 1:04:39
  And that's a reality.
• 1:04:40
  There are women who do not want to
• 1:04:42
  put on muscle like that.
• 1:04:43
  And I don't,
• 1:04:44
  I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:04:45
  I get my students that will say that,
• 1:04:46
  but I want to, you know, tone.
• 1:04:51
  I don't want to have big muscles.
• 1:04:52
  I'm like, don't worry.
• 1:04:53
  You're not going to, you know,
• 1:04:54
  you're not going to magically just get
• 1:04:57
  big.
• 1:04:58
  Um,
• 1:05:01
  Extra sloppy.
• 1:05:02
  I know like a thousand people that watched
• 1:05:03
  me change my life with CrossFit and
• 1:05:05
  practically no one who will even remotely
• 1:05:08
  entertain the idea of trying it for
• 1:05:10
  themselves.
• 1:05:12
  That's what, that's so crazy.
• 1:05:13
  It is.
• 1:05:15
  I mean, my jump into CrossFit,
• 1:05:17
  I lost two hundred and fifty plus pounds
• 1:05:21
  and everybody's like, what have you done?
• 1:05:22
  What have you done?
• 1:05:23
  And I'm like, well,
• 1:05:24
  I work out and I eat right.
• 1:05:26
  And they're like, well, it's not a pill.
• 1:05:29
  No, it's not.
• 1:05:34
  But it's the best hour of your day.
• 1:05:35
  And there's still plenty of ways that you
• 1:05:37
  can do CrossFit without doing, you know,
• 1:05:40
  the inverted movements or the pistols or
• 1:05:42
  the GHDs or the butterfly pull-ups, right?
• 1:05:46
  Like...
• 1:05:47
  it's,
• 1:05:47
  I feel like we need to focus maybe
• 1:05:49
  on that is like that you're still doing
• 1:05:51
  CrossFit with these other movements in
• 1:05:53
  classes and you can do other versions of
• 1:05:56
  pulling yourself.
• 1:05:56
  That doesn't include butterfly in terms of
• 1:05:59
  if you don't have the,
• 1:06:01
  the baseline strength for it and the
• 1:06:02
  mobility,
• 1:06:03
  like you shouldn't be attempting that
• 1:06:04
  anyways,
• 1:06:05
  but that falls back on the coaches and
• 1:06:06
  that ultimately falls back on the ego of
• 1:06:08
  the athlete, which is a huge issue.
• 1:06:11
  Yes.
• 1:06:13
  Um,
• 1:06:15
  OMG, so true.
• 1:06:16
  Stop worrying, girls.
• 1:06:17
  It takes so much to get pipes like
• 1:06:19
  Carolyn.
• 1:06:22
  Listen.
• 1:06:23
  It's so frustrating because I'm like,
• 1:06:24
  so you think I don't look good?
• 1:06:26
  What are you saying right now?
• 1:06:30
  You don't want to have muscles like I
• 1:06:31
  have muscles?
• 1:06:32
  Because I think it looks good.
• 1:06:36
  Carolyn's an F. You guys.
• 1:06:42
  I won't even get into it, but yeah.
• 1:06:47
  This is the thing.
• 1:06:49
  If someone said that to me,
• 1:06:50
  and I was one of you two,
• 1:06:52
  I'd be like, trust me,
• 1:06:53
  you are not going to work hard enough
• 1:06:55
  to look like this.
• 1:06:56
  I have said that.
• 1:06:57
  I'm like, trust me, you won't.
• 1:07:01
  I've been working out since I was three
• 1:07:02
  years old, basically, doing sports.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  People have this idea that it's easy to
• 1:07:08
  put on muscle.
• 1:07:09
  And like,
• 1:07:10
  there's a lot of males that struggle
• 1:07:12
  putting on muscles, not just females.
• 1:07:13
  It's like there's males that are training
• 1:07:15
  years and they still have trouble.
• 1:07:17
  So this perception that you're going to
• 1:07:18
  work out and do, you know,
• 1:07:22
  ten pound weights and all of a sudden
• 1:07:24
  you're scared of it.
• 1:07:24
  Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah,
• 1:07:30
  everybody's kind of echoing the same
• 1:07:31
  stuff.
• 1:07:33
  It just is.
• 1:07:34
  But we don't know the full campaign.
• 1:07:36
  They kind of previewed it today.
• 1:07:37
  It's supposed to be released tomorrow.
• 1:07:39
  So look out on Instagram.
• 1:07:40
  CrossFit Games will be releasing the next
• 1:07:43
  market,
• 1:07:43
  or I guess CrossFit will be releasing the
• 1:07:45
  next marketing campaign tomorrow for sure.
• 1:07:51
  So with that,
• 1:07:54
  I want to talk about trademarks because it
• 1:07:56
  was kind of in this vein.
• 1:07:58
  And I was looking it up,
• 1:08:01
  and thank you to Vicki, Vicki Duncan,
• 1:08:04
  who's in the chat right now.
• 1:08:07
  She pushed me to look at this stuff.
• 1:08:12
  And so I went out and found all
• 1:08:15
  of the trademarks that CrossFit has.
• 1:08:19
  And this actually stemmed from,
• 1:08:20
  and we're going to talk about in a
• 1:08:21
  second,
• 1:08:22
  the new CrossFit Games podcast called the
• 1:08:25
  Sport of Fitness.
• 1:08:27
  And Sport of Fitness is actually
• 1:08:28
  trademarked by CrossFit and has been for
• 1:08:31
  some time.
• 1:08:33
  But they have, I think it's three,
• 1:08:35
  one hundred and thirty three,
• 1:08:37
  one hundred twenty three trademarks
• 1:08:40
  CrossFit has.
• 1:08:41
  Now, they sometimes repeat,
• 1:08:43
  like CrossFit is a bunch of times.
• 1:08:45
  One of them is for retail clothing.
• 1:08:47
  One of them is for healthcare and
• 1:08:50
  different applications, things like that.
• 1:08:53
  But F the Quick Fix is trademarked.
• 1:08:58
  Forging Elite Athletes is trademarked,
• 1:09:02
  not fitness.
• 1:09:03
  Forging Elite Athletes.
• 1:09:05
  Okay.
• 1:09:09
  And it's just interesting if you go
• 1:09:10
  through and see all the stuff they grabbed
• 1:09:13
  early on in their venture Murph fight gone
• 1:09:16
  bad.
• 1:09:16
  I just saw.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, fight gone bad.
• 1:09:20
  CrossFit affiliate programming.
• 1:09:23
  Three, two, one go.
• 1:09:27
  Fittest on Earth.
• 1:09:29
  Forging elite fitness is trademarked,
• 1:09:30
  but they also have forging elite athletes.
• 1:09:32
  Okay.
• 1:09:36
  So there's some others.
• 1:09:41
  Some are pending.
• 1:09:42
  A Better Beautiful is pending.
• 1:09:47
  And that was placed on September,
• 1:09:49
  twenty twenty five.
• 1:09:52
  Wow.
• 1:09:52
  And some they've let expire.
• 1:09:55
  So like the old the CrossFit Games that
• 1:09:59
  had Reebok with the shield,
• 1:10:01
  they've let that expire.
• 1:10:03
  That logo.
• 1:10:05
  They have let expire the
• 1:10:11
  rosa health happiness whatever that health
• 1:10:15
  happiness phrase was they've let that
• 1:10:18
  trademark trademark expire so is there
• 1:10:23
  really a hundred and twenty three
• 1:10:25
  trademarks it is however some of them are
• 1:10:28
  just logos or like the way it's written
• 1:10:30
  and like all that
• 1:10:32
  So I'm trying to go through.
• 1:10:33
  So there's the logos for the CrossFit
• 1:10:35
  Games.
• 1:10:35
  By looking at some of the ones that
• 1:10:37
  are pending,
• 1:10:37
  you can also make prediction maybe on some
• 1:10:39
  upcoming marketing stuff that they have
• 1:10:44
  coming up.
• 1:10:45
  Like the beautiful thing maybe is
• 1:10:46
  something that's coming up.
• 1:10:48
  Here is for anyone but not for everyone.
• 1:10:50
  Here's F the Quick Fix.
• 1:10:52
  Those are in here.
• 1:10:55
  The cure for the world's most vexing
• 1:10:57
  problem.
• 1:11:03
  Well, this one now says live.
• 1:11:07
  Earlier today, this says abandoned.
• 1:11:12
  Oh,
• 1:11:12
  maybe someone caught it and got back in.
• 1:11:17
  So, yeah.
• 1:11:19
  I always liked that one.
• 1:11:23
  That logo?
• 1:11:23
  Yeah, that shield is one of my favorites.
• 1:11:25
  The Reebok one?
• 1:11:26
  Pukie is trademarked.
• 1:11:29
  The actual clown is trademarked.
• 1:11:36
  I find it.
• 1:11:36
  If there really is one hundred and twenty
• 1:11:38
  three, I find that crazy.
• 1:11:40
  Like they do they keep it at one
• 1:11:42
  hundred twenty three?
• 1:11:43
  Do they drop some?
• 1:11:46
  Dead, canceled.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah.
• 1:11:51
  So this one,
• 1:11:52
  the world's leading platform for health,
• 1:11:53
  happiness and performance.
• 1:11:55
  That was the Rosa one that he brought
• 1:11:58
  up.
• 1:11:59
  And now that's dead and abandoned.
• 1:12:01
  So anyway, I just I
• 1:12:05
  I found it interesting because, one,
• 1:12:08
  we were talking about it this week with
• 1:12:09
  the new podcast and its name,
• 1:12:16
  and it is trademarked,
• 1:12:18
  and it was interesting to see that.
• 1:12:21
  But also with these campaigns,
• 1:12:23
  because they have Forging Elite Fitness,
• 1:12:25
  Forging Elite Athletes,
• 1:12:27
  it's something they have trademarked and
• 1:12:28
  can use and can market with no one
• 1:12:31
  else being able to touch it.
• 1:12:35
  Kenneth Tlapec thinks that one hundred
• 1:12:38
  twenty three is low.
• 1:12:41
  It does seem low,
• 1:12:43
  and it seems like a chosen number,
• 1:12:46
  like they've let them go to get to
• 1:12:48
  one hundred twenty three.
• 1:12:49
  It's weird.
• 1:12:55
  Heather Campbell says,
• 1:12:56
  I don't think fight gone bad is theirs.
• 1:12:58
  It's it is listed as an active trademark
• 1:13:01
  for CrossFit.
• 1:13:04
  But someone said they lost Filthy Fifty.
• 1:13:07
  I did not see that on the list.
• 1:13:08
  That's definitely CrossFit.
• 1:13:16
  It can be slogans, campaigns, logos,
• 1:13:18
  even fonts.
• 1:13:22
  Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  So anyway.
• 1:13:26
  And the reason we brought this up is
• 1:13:30
  with the new podcast coming out called The
• 1:13:32
  Sport of Fitness...
• 1:13:34
  Having that as their trademark means that
• 1:13:38
  any competitor cannot use CrossFit,
• 1:13:41
  cannot use sport of fitness.
• 1:13:45
  They are really in a pickle on what
• 1:13:49
  do they call what they're doing.
• 1:13:51
  And so everybody is like, to WFP,
• 1:13:54
  you're doing CrossFit,
• 1:13:55
  just say you're doing CrossFit.
• 1:13:56
  Well,
• 1:13:56
  they're not allowed to say they're doing
• 1:13:58
  CrossFit.
• 1:13:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:13:59
  They can't even say they're doing the
• 1:14:00
  sport of fitness.
• 1:14:01
  Right.
• 1:14:02
  That's why they're saying, like,
• 1:14:04
  we're a functional fitness competition or
• 1:14:06
  a – because they have to skirt around
• 1:14:09
  all these trademarks.
• 1:14:11
  CrossFit has already hit them on a cease
• 1:14:13
  and desist on a video they put out
• 1:14:16
  where they used footage from the CrossFit
• 1:14:17
  Games.
• 1:14:18
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:14:21
  So I think it's, um,
• 1:14:23
  it's good to understand this when you see
• 1:14:26
  competitors not saying, Hey,
• 1:14:28
  we're doing CrossFit.
• 1:14:29
  They can't, they're not allowed.
• 1:14:33
  That's why they come up with new names,
• 1:14:34
  like the alpha class and all that.
• 1:14:38
  Right.
• 1:14:40
  F-forty-five all that stuff.
• 1:14:43
  You have to make up your own thing
• 1:14:45
  for it because you cannot use the
• 1:14:46
  trademarks that are already out there and
• 1:14:48
  being used.
• 1:14:55
  hq used to f with people over any
• 1:14:58
  of it x fit etc yeah there's there's
• 1:15:02
  explanation when you're you say crossfit
• 1:15:04
  it has to be capital c r o
• 1:15:06
  s s capital f i t any variation
• 1:15:10
  from that is a break of the trademark
• 1:15:15
  and i think that's what like x fit
• 1:15:16
  would fall into
• 1:15:27
  Um, clock cutter, forging elite athletes,
• 1:15:30
  USD one universities,
• 1:15:32
  but seem to have a claim to that.
• 1:15:33
  I'm just telling you what's on, on paper.
• 1:15:39
  They better show it then they better show
• 1:15:42
  up and try to prove it.
• 1:15:45
  So the new,
• 1:15:46
  the new podcast called sport of fitness
• 1:15:49
  podcast,
• 1:15:49
  a chase is going to be the host.
• 1:15:52
  Dave will be a frequent guest.
• 1:15:55
  they have announced that this is where
• 1:15:56
  CrossFit will release its sport
• 1:15:58
  information.
• 1:16:00
  And Dave said that he wants to have
• 1:16:02
  a place where they release it instead of
• 1:16:05
  all of these other third-party media
• 1:16:06
  people releasing it.
• 1:16:09
  Take the narrative.
• 1:16:11
  One, do you think that's possible?
• 1:16:16
  Let's start with that one.
• 1:16:17
  Is this on CrossFit's YouTube channel?
• 1:16:20
  CrossFit Games' YouTube channel.
• 1:16:21
  Okay.
• 1:16:21
  Okay.
• 1:16:24
  So that's good because they're utilizing
• 1:16:26
  the millions of channel.
• 1:16:27
  Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Yeah, I think it's possible.
• 1:16:35
  I think it's good that things are going
• 1:16:36
  to get released from that channel and that
• 1:16:39
  they're utilizing the CrossFit Games
• 1:16:41
  channel because they already have all the
• 1:16:43
  followers there.
• 1:16:43
  Why start a newer platform?
• 1:16:47
  They'll need to promote it better.
• 1:16:48
  That's for sure.
• 1:16:50
  I'll watch often the one that James does,
• 1:16:54
  like the CrossFit one.
• 1:16:56
  on the CrossFit one.
• 1:16:57
  James Hobart.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  But I still don't think that they get
• 1:17:02
  that many views on it.
• 1:17:03
  So yeah, they'll have,
• 1:17:05
  they'll have to find ways to catch like
• 1:17:09
  people's attention and promote it.
• 1:17:10
  And maybe if they're releasing
• 1:17:12
  information,
• 1:17:12
  that's very valuable to the season,
• 1:17:14
  it'll start getting some traction.
• 1:17:18
  You just don't want it to be a
• 1:17:19
  repeated show of like the same stuff
• 1:17:22
  that's being talked about on other things.
• 1:17:26
  So with you guys,
• 1:17:26
  I was very critical when this was
• 1:17:27
  announced.
• 1:17:30
  I love Chase.
• 1:17:31
  I think Chase is good at what he
• 1:17:32
  does.
• 1:17:32
  But Chase has a platform already.
• 1:17:35
  And why bringing him on to do another
• 1:17:38
  show would I tune in for a voice
• 1:17:42
  I've already heard?
• 1:17:45
  Now, if I don't see him shutting down,
• 1:17:47
  talk or get with the programming or any
• 1:17:51
  of that stuff in addition to doing this.
• 1:17:54
  So I'm assuming we're still going to get
• 1:17:56
  multiple versions of chase throughout the,
• 1:17:59
  throughout the week.
• 1:18:01
  And I don't know,
• 1:18:02
  maybe he was told you're not,
• 1:18:03
  you can't go on these shows so that
• 1:18:06
  we're fresh and that people come see you
• 1:18:07
  here.
• 1:18:09
  I don't know.
• 1:18:11
  Um,
• 1:18:14
  I do like the fact that there's a
• 1:18:16
  one place to host all the news,
• 1:18:18
  but CrossFit has had a reputation of not
• 1:18:22
  stopping the leaks.
• 1:18:23
  Right.
• 1:18:25
  So I see the thing of like CrossFit
• 1:18:27
  saying that spin is punching the air.
• 1:18:30
  He still has his connections.
• 1:18:32
  He still has sources.
• 1:18:34
  Who's to say he doesn't?
• 1:18:35
  They're only going on air once a week,
• 1:18:37
  like every Wednesday, I think it is.
• 1:18:40
  on friday he hears word of something he's
• 1:18:43
  still going to beat him to the punch
• 1:18:48
  so i don't i understand the want to
• 1:18:50
  control the narrative and i do appreciate
• 1:18:51
  that they're trying to do that i just
• 1:18:53
  don't think they can anymore the genie's
• 1:18:57
  out of the bottle and now you're trying
• 1:18:59
  to get it back in but i think
• 1:19:02
  it's important still that it comes from
• 1:19:06
  like a main source of information like
• 1:19:08
  whether it was the website or a
• 1:19:10
  this platform versus like Dave's channel
• 1:19:15
  or like personal channel or like,
• 1:19:16
  or it's just everywhere.
• 1:19:17
  Like if it's going to be from here
• 1:19:19
  from now on,
• 1:19:20
  like it's going to be from there.
• 1:19:22
  Like, I think there's,
• 1:19:23
  it just needs to be consistent.
• 1:19:26
  Uh,
• 1:19:27
  NFL network doesn't beat ESPN or Barstool.
• 1:19:30
  Correct.
• 1:19:35
  Uh,
• 1:19:37
  Whatever they do,
• 1:19:38
  they need to stay consistent.
• 1:19:39
  It takes a while despite how many
• 1:19:41
  followers they have to get consistent
• 1:19:43
  views,
• 1:19:44
  especially when it's essentially been a
• 1:19:45
  dead channel outside of the games.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah.
• 1:19:49
  Amen, sister.
• 1:19:51
  Yep.
• 1:19:54
  You can't get it back in on a
• 1:19:57
  glorified Zoom call.
• 1:20:01
  Excellent point.
• 1:20:01
  Yeah.
• 1:20:02
  Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  But they said that they're going to have
• 1:20:08
  athlete interviews on it,
• 1:20:10
  that they're going to do promotions of,
• 1:20:14
  you know,
• 1:20:15
  especially the competition that have the
• 1:20:16
  CrossFit, what is it,
• 1:20:19
  like affiliated comps,
• 1:20:21
  like do better promotions of that.
• 1:20:25
  Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  I mean,
• 1:20:26
  the moment that you start doing long
• 1:20:29
  podcasts, like a lot of times,
• 1:20:30
  like it just doesn't generate as many
• 1:20:31
  views, right?
• 1:20:34
  It's like if they just were to clip,
• 1:20:36
  you know,
• 1:20:36
  like a five to ten minute video of
• 1:20:39
  some upcoming news and that's just
• 1:20:40
  watchable.
• 1:20:41
  I wonder if that would do better than
• 1:20:42
  like an actual podcast.
• 1:20:46
  Like the daily news or the weekly news.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  There's so many people doing it, though.
• 1:20:53
  So you're going to have to be original.
• 1:20:55
  You're going to have to have something
• 1:20:56
  that the others don't have.
• 1:21:01
  I think it's an uphill climb.
• 1:21:03
  I think it's going to have to be
• 1:21:07
  short.
• 1:21:09
  Like it can't be two hours.
• 1:21:10
  No.
• 1:21:14
  Like under thirty minutes,
• 1:21:15
  maybe even like fifteen.
• 1:21:18
  I think.
• 1:21:18
  Yeah.
• 1:21:19
  Clear, concise.
• 1:21:20
  Get us your information that like that'll
• 1:21:23
  get you.
• 1:21:24
  People aren't going to tune in for.
• 1:21:27
  There's just too many things to watch.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  I don't even know what new information
• 1:21:35
  they'd be bringing that would take that
• 1:21:38
  long to discuss.
• 1:21:42
  Strong body,
• 1:21:43
  strong mind is not a fan of Chase.
• 1:21:47
  I don't know.
• 1:21:48
  I like Chase's voice.
• 1:21:51
  But you're right.
• 1:21:51
  We get his opinion.
• 1:21:54
  I don't know that we need it again
• 1:21:57
  in another avenue.
• 1:22:01
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:22:02
  don't know who could do it i i
• 1:22:05
  would like you know like denise could it
• 1:22:07
  could have been denise it could have been
• 1:22:08
  hobart could have been any one of them
• 1:22:11
  that are kind of already doing their thing
• 1:22:13
  on that channel i really like the dynamic
• 1:22:16
  with the cole christiansen and dave when
• 1:22:18
  they were talking about the workout the
• 1:22:20
  one day that when the affiliate didn't
• 1:22:21
  show up i thought that was a podcast
• 1:22:25
  i would watch more often if they they
• 1:22:27
  went with that format um but again
• 1:22:32
  they need to think outside the box,
• 1:22:33
  just like Jenna's doing with the
• 1:22:34
  marketing,
• 1:22:35
  like think outside the box and bring
• 1:22:38
  something new to the table or nobody's
• 1:22:39
  going to tune in.
• 1:22:40
  Yeah.
• 1:22:43
  So, and, and I'll tune into episode one.
• 1:22:45
  We'll see what it looks like.
• 1:22:46
  Yeah.
• 1:22:46
  Yeah.
• 1:22:47
  I mean,
• 1:22:49
  we won't know until we see it.
• 1:22:51
  So I did want to get your, um,
• 1:22:53
  your take on media Hill,
• 1:22:56
  as you are a member of Clyde zoo
• 1:22:58
  media, we did make it onto the Hill,
• 1:23:00
  uh,
• 1:23:02
  We were in the runoff or whatever it
• 1:23:05
  was.
• 1:23:06
  Whatever that was.
• 1:23:11
  Your thoughts?
• 1:23:14
  I liked it.
• 1:23:15
  I think it was, yeah,
• 1:23:17
  John gave them a lot of flack for
• 1:23:20
  acting like it wasn't science.
• 1:23:22
  I don't even know what he wanted them
• 1:23:23
  to do.
• 1:23:24
  Like, it was awesome.
• 1:23:27
  It was a nice idea that they took
• 1:23:29
  his hill concept,
• 1:23:30
  his mountain concept and ran with it and
• 1:23:32
  brought some more eyes.
• 1:23:34
  It's not going to be perfect.
• 1:23:36
  Of course,
• 1:23:37
  it's always going to be a little bit
• 1:23:38
  opinion-based.
• 1:23:41
  I thought they did a good job.
• 1:23:43
  It was a good show.
• 1:23:45
  And make people talk and make people kind
• 1:23:48
  of fight for their channel,
• 1:23:50
  fight for other people like it.
• 1:23:52
  I thought it was good.
• 1:23:53
  I think that I re I've,
• 1:23:55
  I really liked that, um,
• 1:23:57
  that podcast that they have,
• 1:23:58
  like the boys interrupted.
• 1:24:00
  I think they do a good job of
• 1:24:01
  just, just talking as athletes, um,
• 1:24:05
  like high level athletes in the space.
• 1:24:07
  Like we haven't had that.
• 1:24:08
  And in general,
• 1:24:10
  just bringing something new to the table.
• 1:24:12
  And yeah, it just got us talking,
• 1:24:14
  got other people talking.
• 1:24:15
  I think it was good.
• 1:24:18
  Morning chocolate shocked me to be quite
• 1:24:20
  honest,
• 1:24:21
  but we are the drainage ditch of podcasts.
• 1:24:24
  There we go.
• 1:24:26
  I made it to the mudslide.
• 1:24:28
  That's great.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah.
• 1:24:33
  huge shout out to to dalen like clearly
• 1:24:36
  he i don't know if he tunes into
• 1:24:38
  your lunch shows daily or if he's catching
• 1:24:41
  some of these i don't know um i
• 1:24:43
  gotta say i was shocked that james i
• 1:24:50
  almost like almost like kind of knocked
• 1:24:53
  you like his dad is a freaking masters
• 1:24:57
  athlete like he should have been like
• 1:25:01
  I don't know.
• 1:25:01
  I feel like there could have been any
• 1:25:02
  other way to word that.
• 1:25:03
  And I just was, I don't know.
• 1:25:07
  He should want more attention on the James
• 1:25:09
  has been on the show.
• 1:25:11
  I know I was like, he started talking.
• 1:25:14
  I was like, Whoa, what?
• 1:25:15
  So, um, and I do,
• 1:25:22
  I do think there was some West coast
• 1:25:23
  bias.
• 1:25:24
  Um, Justin is
• 1:25:31
  He's up later.
• 1:25:32
  I don't know.
• 1:25:32
  It doesn't matter.
• 1:25:34
  I had it in my head.
• 1:25:34
  Now it's gone.
• 1:25:35
  Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  But, yeah.
• 1:25:38
  The funniest thing is when John made the
• 1:25:39
  mountain comparing us to athletes,
• 1:25:43
  when I first saw Jorge Fernandez was us,
• 1:25:45
  I was like, what the heck?
• 1:25:47
  And then I'm like, wait,
• 1:25:48
  he made the CrossFit Games this year.
• 1:25:50
  Like, he's a good looking dude.
• 1:25:52
  Exactly.
• 1:25:53
  I don't think that.
• 1:25:54
  All right, let's go.
• 1:25:55
  I'll run with that.
• 1:25:59
  Someone said that they don't watch Amanda.
• 1:26:01
  I watch Amanda all the time.
• 1:26:04
  I like her.
• 1:26:07
  I think she was definitely a miss on
• 1:26:09
  their show.
• 1:26:09
  I think she does some good videos and
• 1:26:11
  I enjoyed her video on the Media Hill
• 1:26:14
  stuff.
• 1:26:16
  I think WOD Prep was a bit of
• 1:26:18
  a miss,
• 1:26:19
  but I understand in their mind why they
• 1:26:21
  didn't put them there.
• 1:26:22
  But yeah, I think
• 1:26:26
  Well, I think TTT was a big miss.
• 1:26:29
  That shocks me.
• 1:26:30
  Yeah.
• 1:26:31
  With if mayhem's on there,
• 1:26:32
  I think TTT has put out some really
• 1:26:34
  good stuff.
• 1:26:35
  Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  They have some,
• 1:26:36
  they have some good podcasts for sure.
• 1:26:39
  Yeah.
• 1:26:40
  I don't even know who Mason startup is.
• 1:26:42
  Like, I don't, I've never heard of that.
• 1:26:44
  I don't even know where to find his
• 1:26:45
  content.
• 1:26:46
  Like, where is it?
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  You've been proven like they post a lot
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  of things of content and media.
• 1:26:52
  Yeah,
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  I think Proven and TTT should have been
• 1:26:55
  on the same level as Mayhem.
• 1:26:56
  Yes.
• 1:26:57
  And maybe a little bit more just because
• 1:26:59
  they put out so much,
• 1:27:00
  but Mason has only done a handful of
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  videos.
• 1:27:05
  So that's why you probably haven't seen
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  it.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah, I've never seen.
• 1:27:11
  I'm not saying Mason.
• 1:27:13
  I don't know.
• 1:27:14
  I just don't know where I am.
• 1:27:16
  I swear I know who he is or
• 1:27:19
  follow him, but when he came up,
• 1:27:21
  I was like,
• 1:27:22
  Where is he on Instagram?
• 1:27:23
  I tried to search his name.
• 1:27:24
  Can't find him.
• 1:27:25
  I don't know.
• 1:27:26
  I don't even know how to follow him.
• 1:27:30
  Well, Dan, Dallin follows us on Instagram.
• 1:27:33
  So I think that's where he knows.
• 1:27:35
  He probably sees the reels.
• 1:27:36
  I see.
• 1:27:36
  To be honest.
• 1:27:37
  But I don't know.
• 1:27:39
  I think that's all I was going to
• 1:27:44
  say.
• 1:27:46
  Quick news bit for the week.
• 1:27:48
  Katrin gave birth.
• 1:27:51
  Um, new, just as we got on Shelby,
• 1:27:53
  Neil got engaged.
• 1:27:57
  Um, NorCal announced dates.
• 1:28:01
  My question is Carolyn,
• 1:28:02
  you're going back for another round.
• 1:28:04
  For sure.
• 1:28:05
  I love, um, I've, I mean,
• 1:28:07
  I've been going there for like three
• 1:28:09
  years.
• 1:28:10
  Um, yeah, Ben and his family, um,
• 1:28:15
  are awesome.
• 1:28:15
  They just put on a, um,
• 1:28:18
  an event this weekend that Alexis went to
• 1:28:20
  do.
• 1:28:21
  Like it was like a ten K row
• 1:28:23
  and a fifty K bike erg and teams
• 1:28:25
  for the overcome project that he does.
• 1:28:28
  Um, yeah, I think they're great people.
• 1:28:31
  Um, I love supporting everything,
• 1:28:32
  everything that they do.
• 1:28:33
  They've been good to me.
• 1:28:34
  So.
• 1:28:35
  Hopefully, I'll be back.
• 1:28:38
  I have to admit,
• 1:28:39
  watching NorCal is so much fun.
• 1:28:42
  Last year,
• 1:28:44
  I didn't know how to put it with
• 1:28:46
  qualifying people to the games and how
• 1:28:48
  much fun it was to watch.
• 1:28:51
  There has to be a medium in between
• 1:28:53
  the two that works really well.
• 1:28:56
  Hopefully, they find it this year.
• 1:28:58
  I think Ben and Blair will find an
• 1:29:01
  extra person or two to
• 1:29:04
  tighten the ship up a little bit um
• 1:29:06
  but we don't like there might even be
• 1:29:09
  like that that could be a master's
• 1:29:10
  qualifier too or or like we don't have
• 1:29:13
  enough information like because they
• 1:29:15
  they're one of the events that have
• 1:29:17
  multiple division kind of like that
• 1:29:18
  granite game style where it's not just the
• 1:29:21
  elites and and teams like they have a
• 1:29:24
  lot of people that go through that event
• 1:29:25
  so i guess we'll see what kind of
• 1:29:28
  um event it'll be in qualification
• 1:29:34
  Maybe I'm in the Masters Division.
• 1:29:35
  Who knows?
• 1:29:38
  WFP is giving out invites to their comps
• 1:29:43
  with winners in European competitions.
• 1:29:47
  It was also brought out that their
• 1:29:48
  leaderboard for the online version was
• 1:29:52
  very scarce.
• 1:29:54
  So they are now offering the positions to
• 1:29:56
  winners of other comps.
• 1:29:57
  I
• 1:30:01
  want them to succeed so i want them
• 1:30:03
  to figure out the one thing they need
• 1:30:05
  to do well and do that and then
• 1:30:07
  start adding on the other pieces later um
• 1:30:13
  the last thing is all open announcement
• 1:30:16
  locations have been announced uh kind of
• 1:30:20
  so we know one is in an air
• 1:30:21
  force base we know one is in europe
• 1:30:25
  somewhere and we know one is at
• 1:30:27
  wadapalooza
• 1:30:30
  So again,
• 1:30:31
  that's probably the earliest we've ever
• 1:30:32
  known that in a season as well.
• 1:30:37
  So good.
• 1:30:38
  Kudos to that.
• 1:30:39
  Yep.
• 1:30:42
  And with that,
• 1:30:42
  that's pretty much your news for the week.
• 1:30:44
  And we've just hit the ninety minute mark.
• 1:30:47
  Perfect.
• 1:30:48
  So with that,
• 1:30:49
  I'm going to let you all hit the
• 1:30:51
  sack just like me.
• 1:30:53
  Got a long day tomorrow.
• 1:30:56
  I'll be back for lunch with the
• 1:30:58
  Clydesdale, I think, tomorrow.
• 1:31:00
  And then Tuesday night,
• 1:31:02
  we're going to do a supper edition with
• 1:31:05
  Kelly Clark.
• 1:31:08
  One of the newest red shirts on the
• 1:31:10
  scene.
• 1:31:12
  And she has a special project that she
• 1:31:14
  is working with keeping firefighters
• 1:31:16
  healthy.
• 1:31:18
  And we're going to talk about that.
• 1:31:19
  And it's going to be a casual
• 1:31:20
  conversation.
• 1:31:21
  The new format of like no interviews,
• 1:31:24
  just conversations with my friends.
• 1:31:27
  And so she's coming on Tuesday night.
• 1:31:29
  I think it's seven o'clock Eastern time.
• 1:31:34
  for that sort of be a supper edition
• 1:31:35
  of lunch with the Clydesdale.
• 1:31:38
  But yeah,
• 1:31:38
  exciting news for her and see where she's
• 1:31:41
  at.
• 1:31:42
  And she sent me that little shirt right
• 1:31:44
  there.
• 1:31:47
  That looks like a Giants jersey,
• 1:31:48
  which is really cool.
• 1:31:50
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• 1:31:52
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• 1:32:07
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• 1:32:20
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• 1:32:29
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