Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Erin Keefe, Chief Nurse Executive Officer at St. Bernardine Medical Center
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- 0:00- This is Laura Dedo with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:03I'm thrilled today to be joined by Erin Keefe,
- 0:05chief Nurse Executive Officer at St.
- 0:07Bernadine Medical Center.
- 0:08Erin, it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:11- Yes, thank you for inviting me. I'm excited to be here.
- 0:15- Absolutely. And I'm excited for our conversation, too.
- 0:17I think it'll be really amazing
- 0:19to hear more about what you're doing at St.
- 0:21Bernard Medical Center, um, with your nursing team
- 0:23and really some of the big trends
- 0:24and issues that you're following.
- 0:26But before we dive into my questions,
- 0:28can you tell me a little bit more
- 0:29about yourself and your background?
- 0:32- Um, sure. I have been a registered nurse for
- 0:35over 30 years, and I actually, um,
- 0:39I did my initial undergrad education in Canada, which is
- 0:42where I grew up, and I moved to the US in, uh, 1995
- 0:48and, um, have been here for most of that time.
- 0:52I, I went back for, for a period of a couple of years,
- 0:54but I, I worked in six different states
- 0:59and, uh, a variety of different clinical areas primarily,
- 1:03uh, critical care, so ICUs and emergency departments.
- 1:07Um, but I also, um, spent some time working in ambulatory
- 1:12as well as perioperative leadership.
- 1:15And, uh, I've been in a leadership role, um,
- 1:20for over 15 years
- 1:21and, uh, um, very lucky to, um, to be
- 1:26where I am right now.
- 1:27I think, um, St.
- 1:29Berna Medical Center is a 342 bed, uh, acute care
- 1:34facility in San Bernardino, California.
- 1:37A very vulnerable, uh, community underserved population, uh,
- 1:42where, uh, you know, we have been, um, doing a lot of work
- 1:46to try and improve the health of this community and, um,
- 1:51and, and provide a great place for medical care.
- 1:55Uh, we're doing a lot of great things here, I think.
- 1:57Uh, but I'm biased of course, so that's me.
- 2:02- Fantastic. And, and I, I think that's amazing
- 2:04what great experiences that you've had in
- 2:06so many different aspects of healthcare, um, you know, in,
- 2:09in especially serving underserved
- 2:11populations is so important.
- 2:13Um, so I wanna dig in here a little bit deeper.
- 2:15What are some of your top priorities right now?
- 2:17What do you really have top of mind?
- 2:21- You know, it's, um, not, not very much different from
- 2:26what I think everyone else is, is going through.
- 2:29You know, we're still, um, in recovery phase,
- 2:32even though we like to think the pandemic is
- 2:34behind us completely.
- 2:36Um, we've, we've had a huge focus on stabilization
- 2:40and rebuilding our staffing pools, so, uh, a lot of work
- 2:45with our local universities
- 2:47and colleges to improve, uh, the pipeline for new nurses.
- 2:52Um, we've adopted the system, uh, nurse, uh,
- 2:57residency program for new graduates,
- 3:00and we also, um, are continuing our, um, new
- 3:03to service line residencies for nurses that are already here
- 3:06with us, uh, that maybe want to try a new, uh,
- 3:09a new area of practice.
- 3:11And, uh, that helps us, obviously
- 3:13with decreasing our turnover, keeping our staff here.
- 3:17Um, we've also, uh, had a huge focus on staff wellbeing,
- 3:21uh, staff and positions.
- 3:23Um, there, there is that lingering impact from the pandemic
- 3:28that just, it took a huge emotional toll
- 3:31and, um, we are very lucky to be able
- 3:34to have on site, um, a, a therapist who works
- 3:39with our staff both individually
- 3:40and in groups, um, as part
- 3:43of our employee assistance program.
- 3:45And, uh, so that, that remains a high focus for us.
- 3:48And then sustainable growth for, for the organization.
- 3:52Uh, healthcare, the landscape continues to shift
- 3:56and, um, it becomes more challenging with, with payers.
- 4:01And, uh, so we are, again,
- 4:03we serve an underserved population
- 4:05and how can we sustain for the long term into the future?
- 4:10- That's such a great point.
- 4:11And, and definitely, um, having that ability to, um,
- 4:15understand the workforce, understand
- 4:17what the clinical teams are going through,
- 4:18and then provide, uh, some of that support
- 4:21and some of the recovery that they need in order
- 4:23to really get into a space where, um, you know, you're able
- 4:27to provide care for the communities that they need.
- 4:30And, you know, when you talk about being able
- 4:32to decrease staff turnover, um,
- 4:34and really be, you know, have a, a great pipeline
- 4:37of talent coming in and
- 4:39unless something a lot of hospitals aspire to, I,
- 4:42is there anything that you've, um, done recently to try
- 4:46to tackle some of those challenges?
- 4:47I know you mentioned, um,
- 4:48having a therapist on site and some other things.
- 4:51Um, um, you know, is there anything else that you're doing
- 4:53to try to reduce that turnover rate?
- 4:57- Uh, um, one thing that
- 4:59geographically our facility's located for those
- 5:02who are familiar with, um,
- 5:04Southern California in the Inland Empire,
- 5:05it's a bit isolated
- 5:07and, uh, it, it, it's not a place where a lot of people want
- 5:11to necessarily relocate to.
- 5:13So for, from a turnover perspective, when we're hiring,
- 5:16we're looking at people that,
- 5:18that are somewhat familiar with the area.
- 5:20Uh, you know, San Bernardino's,
- 5:22I think the largest county in the United States.
- 5:26Uh, so there's a lot of, of, uh, square footage
- 5:28and square mileage for people to move around in.
- 5:33Um, we have made, um, relationships with a couple
- 5:37of our local universities to do dedicated cohorts
- 5:41for students, so they do their entire program
- 5:44with the exception of the service lines
- 5:46that we do not offer here, like pediatrics.
- 5:49Uh, they spend their entire, um,
- 5:52four year program doing their clinicals with us, and,
- 5:55and that allows them
- 5:56to get a true feel if the culture here works for them, uh,
- 6:00and, and vice versa.
- 6:02And, and it just, it's a better onboarding.
- 6:05They know what they're getting into.
- 6:07They're not starting at a facility
- 6:09where they don't know the people,
- 6:10they don't know the physicians or the practices.
- 6:13And, um, that has had a huge impact, uh, for us to,
- 6:17to work on decreasing our turnover.
- 6:19Um, you know, we obviously are still, uh,
- 6:23figuring out the new landscape with, um, the,
- 6:26the newer generations wanting
- 6:28to move around a little bit more.
- 6:29So our turnover's a little higher than we would like it
- 6:31to be, but our vacancy rate is currently at 4%.
- 6:34So, um, you know, it, it's starting that, starting
- 6:38that process has made an impact.
- 6:43- That's great to hear. Thank you so much for, um,
- 6:45digging one bit deeper into that.
- 6:47Now, I'm wondering too, when you look into the future,
- 6:49how will, um, the hospital grow
- 6:51and evolve over the next two to three years?
- 6:54What do you really see as being, uh, on the horizon?
- 6:59- You know, I think, um, looking
- 7:02to the future things will continue
- 7:04to shift into the outpatient ambulatory world.
- 7:08And you know, for us, we're exploring, um, the potentials
- 7:12of an FQHC just to better serve our community.
- 7:15We currently have, uh, this great,
- 7:18we call it our transition clinic,
- 7:20but it's, um, it's a follow-up clinic for patients who
- 7:23have been discharged
- 7:24and can't get into see either their primary care
- 7:27or their specialty physician, um, within
- 7:30that first week following discharge.
- 7:33And so we've started that process
- 7:35and it's had a huge impact on decreasing our readmissions.
- 7:38Uh, but again, as we start
- 7:40to move things further into the outpatient world,
- 7:43we think having better access, um, to either primary care
- 7:47or follow-up care, um, surgeries are moving out.
- 7:52Uh, and so I think you're going to see a lot
- 7:54of organizations, um, having more partnerships
- 7:57with ASCs and things like that.
- 7:59And, um, and so for us it's really looking at the services
- 8:03that we're offering, what is the need of the community?
- 8:07Do we need to add or change things?
- 8:09And of course, we're part of Common Spirit Health, which is,
- 8:12you know, the largest not-for-profit, um, in the country.
- 8:16And, and so there's also making sure that we align with,
- 8:20with the system strategy
- 8:23and, uh, that we're all moving in that, that one same
- 8:27or similar direction.
- 8:31- Got it. That makes a lot of sense and,
- 8:32and definitely, you know, is, um, so important
- 8:35as you mentioned, to be able to, um,
- 8:37have those partnerships go to the outpatient setting and,
- 8:40and really being in the most
- 8:41efficient and effective site of care.
- 8:43Uh, before we wrap up here, I'm wondering what is one change
- 8:46that you or your team has made, um, recently
- 8:49that yielded great results?
- 8:51- You know, it was, um, the one thing I think that has, has
- 8:56touched every point of this facility, of this hospital, um,
- 9:01it was a few years ago actually, the region, uh,
- 9:04facilities adopted the principles of high reliability.
- 9:07And so it has changed how we speak to each other, uh,
- 9:11how we look at things from every level of the facility.
- 9:16And it, it has had a direct positive impact in, um,
- 9:21the day-to-day workflows as well as patient outcomes.
- 9:25Uh, we've been able to improve, you know, our,
- 9:28our quality scores, uh, leapfrog,
- 9:31we've achieved an a, uh, we were up
- 9:34to a CMS four star rating, and,
- 9:37and I really do put it all back to
- 9:39those principles being transparent
- 9:42and seeking solution, um, for,
- 9:46for just every challenge that comes our way.
- 9:48And, uh, so if there's ever any, anyone listening
- 9:52who is thinking about it, uh, for us it has been a true,
- 9:56um, life altering journey
- 9:58for our staff and for our patients.
- 10:02- I love that. Um, you know, having that high reliability,
- 10:05um, you know, and,
- 10:07and really looking at where that can make a big difference,
- 10:10as you said, clinically, as well as, um, within the teams.
- 10:13I can imagine. Um, just really it instills a sense of pride
- 10:15and also a culture that can be really positive, um,
- 10:18for the organization overall.
- 10:21- Yeah, it's a, it's a game changer
- 10:23and, uh, you know, we live it, it's, uh, a lot
- 10:26of times you get sort of wrapped up into some,
- 10:29sometimes they call it like the flavor of the month or,
- 10:31or something new and shiny,
- 10:33but this was, was very thoughtfully rolled out, um,
- 10:38not just to staff, but also to the physicians and, um, and,
- 10:42and it has changed the way we all
- 10:44practice and for the better.
- 10:47- Excellent. Well, Aaron, thank you so much
- 10:48for joining us on the podcast today.
- 10:50This has been such a fan, fascinating discussion
- 10:52and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 10:55- Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.