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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
- 0:04Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hey, guys,
- 0:12Speaker 1: and welcome back to another week of Dirty Rush. Rush
- 0:16Speaker 1: is going around all over the country, so we want
- 0:20Speaker 1: to tell you, guys what goes in to the preparation
- 0:24Speaker 1: of rush before it begins. Candace is going to tell
- 0:28Speaker 1: us about the pre rush process. She is starting rush tomorrow,
- 0:33Speaker 1: so she is going to tell us about all the
- 0:36Speaker 1: preparation that she's been doing to get ready to bring
- 0:39Speaker 1: in these p and ms.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Hi. So, I'm on exec in my sorority at Berkeley.
- 0:48Speaker 3: So we've been here for the last eight days.
- 0:51Speaker 2: We move in one day earlier than the rest of
- 0:53Speaker 2: the members of my sorority, and basically we run through
- 0:57Speaker 2: every single day of sorority recruitment.
- 1:00Speaker 3: So we have like the first two days that we.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Call unity, the second day which is the Sisterhood Round.
- 1:06Speaker 3: There's philanthropy, pref all that type of stuff. Yes, in
- 1:10Speaker 3: the past eight days.
- 1:12Speaker 2: It's basically been like a nine to five job teaching
- 1:15Speaker 2: all of our new members the rituals for each round
- 1:19Speaker 2: and kind of how it works, teaching them about bump groups.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Oh my god, bump groups brings me back. I literally
- 1:27Speaker 1: wrote it on my hand, like my name, my my,
- 1:32Speaker 1: like my group's name, and I would cross out like
- 1:35Speaker 1: each name, and then I would be like, okay, So
- 1:38Speaker 1: I you would associate yourself by number? Is that how
- 1:41Speaker 1: you guys do it? Like for your bump group? Okay,
- 1:44Speaker 1: by letter? So we did it by number. So it
- 1:47Speaker 1: was like one, two, three, Typically, like what there's three
- 1:51Speaker 1: or four people to a bump bump group mm hm,
- 1:55Speaker 1: And so it would be like, okay, Gia, you're after Mikaela,
- 1:59Speaker 1: and then there's Avery and then okay, then one is
- 2:02Speaker 1: going to bump three and then now three is going
- 2:04Speaker 1: to bump two. And I would I would just they
- 2:08Speaker 1: would look at me and I'd be like, okay, it's
- 2:10Speaker 1: my time to go out.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Goshion locations.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It's like blue couch by left door behind, compose it outside,
- 2:18Speaker 2: So you have to remember every single part and you
- 2:21Speaker 2: mess it up, like you might be stuck talking to
- 2:24Speaker 2: the same girl for the entire forty minute round. So
- 2:28Speaker 2: hopefully it all goes to plant. But it's basically been
- 2:30Speaker 2: a nine to five job for the last seven days.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Of course, and then I feel like you could also,
- 2:36Speaker 1: you know, rely on the other people in your group
- 2:40Speaker 1: to kind of help you out and to kind of
- 2:42Speaker 1: guide you. But I love the hand system. You just
- 2:46Speaker 1: write a little write some stump on your hand.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Gosh, I like I would sweat it off. I would
- 2:52Speaker 3: nearly be dripping down my arm. I'd be sweating it off.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I get so nervous with that type of stuff. It's
- 2:58Speaker 2: just like no internal dialogue and.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Art, even like reminders on your phone, like okay, now go.
- 3:04Speaker 2: To hear and but they actually take away our phones
- 3:07Speaker 2: during recruitment, so you, like, if you wanted to sneak
- 3:12Speaker 2: your phone like in like the shorts that you're wearing
- 3:14Speaker 2: under your dress, like that would be a major no no.
- 3:17Speaker 2: So they make us like leave our phones in like
- 3:19Speaker 2: a basket in the kitchen, so you read the sheet
- 3:22Speaker 2: once of where you need to be and the girl
- 3:24Speaker 2: that you're talking to, and then you better remember it
- 3:27Speaker 2: or else you're gonna mass them. Yeah.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Well, I don't remember if we got our phones taken away.
- 3:34Speaker 1: That's crazy. I don't remember.
- 3:38Speaker 3: So your phoneless the entire day for all of the rounds.
- 3:42Speaker 3: So hopefully you get to catch up with.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Everyone afterwards, but you, yeah, there's no time in between.
- 3:47Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing is getting those bump
- 3:51Speaker 1: groups down, Oh.
- 3:52Speaker 3: My gosh, seriously.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And then I feel like the people who are crafting
- 3:56Speaker 2: these bump groups, it is so meticulous. It's like you
- 3:59Speaker 2: want this, say, you can't have the same type of
- 4:02Speaker 2: personality in the same group. You don't want the same grade. Coincidentally,
- 4:06Speaker 2: like one of the people in my bunk group is
- 4:07Speaker 2: from my same hometown, which was absolutely no. No, Yeah,
- 4:12Speaker 2: it's the different personalities, the different locations, different majors, all
- 4:16Speaker 2: that type of stuff.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Because you're supposed to go into it kind of blind,
- 4:20Speaker 1: and especially going to Rutgers and being from New Jersey,
- 4:23Speaker 1: Rutgers is uh big ten in Jersey, so everyone knew everyone,
- 4:30Speaker 1: so it was so difficult. There were some of my
- 4:33Speaker 1: best friends in my sorority that were from my hometown.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And then you just have the surrounding towns from my
- 4:39Speaker 1: town that also went to Rutgers, Like Rutgers was flooded
- 4:44Speaker 1: with people from my town Fairfield, East, Hanover, so many
- 4:48Speaker 1: surrounding towns that were near my town, and you just
- 4:53Speaker 1: hear of familiar faces and people and this one knows
- 4:56Speaker 1: this one, so like small world, everyone knows everyone, and
- 5:02Speaker 1: it was super difficult. I give whoever does those bump
- 5:06Speaker 1: groups a lot of credit seriously.
- 5:09Speaker 2: And then as a P and M, when you're going
- 5:11Speaker 2: into a house, if you know someone from your hometown,
- 5:14Speaker 2: it's that.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Whole thing of like do I acknowledge that I know them?
- 5:17Speaker 3: Am I not supposed to acknowledge that I know them?
- 5:19Speaker 3: What if I have to talk to them? Am I
- 5:21Speaker 3: supposed to?
- 5:21Speaker 2: Because I feel like I'm saying, like, oh, that person's
- 5:25Speaker 2: from my hometown.
- 5:26Speaker 1: There is And then if you know this person, you
- 5:30Speaker 1: also have to monitor what you're saying to them because
- 5:33Speaker 1: during rush, you know, you're not allowed to talk about
- 5:36Speaker 1: going out and social life and boys, and it's so
- 5:40Speaker 1: difficult when you're standing there and you know the person
- 5:43Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, so, how's your chem class going?
- 5:47Speaker 1: When it's like, you know, you're already on such a
- 5:50Speaker 1: different level where you're almost like you almost get like,
- 5:55Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like when that happened, you're
- 5:57Speaker 1: almost like, Okay, screw the questions like how how is
- 6:02Speaker 1: the mixer yesterday? Like are you enjoying your freshman year?
- 6:06Speaker 3: Yes? If they're chilled. Definitely.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I can't imagine having the same traditional conversation with someone
- 6:11Speaker 2: you already know.
- 6:11Speaker 3: But because cal is largely in state.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we have international out of state, but
- 6:19Speaker 2: people are from California, so you're going to know people,
- 6:22Speaker 2: and it's just that whole thing of like do I
- 6:24Speaker 2: acknowledge that I know you? Or do I acknowledge that
- 6:26Speaker 2: I know your friend? And then you risk giving that
- 6:29Speaker 2: member like a weird vibe that like you know someone here,
- 6:32Speaker 2: so you think you might.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Belong well one hundred percent, because then when you also
- 6:36Speaker 1: get into things like that, you don't want to give
- 6:38Speaker 1: the potential new members false hope, and then that's when
- 6:43Speaker 1: it gets very difficult and tricky.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just been all of these
- 6:47Speaker 2: crazy rules that we've been having to.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Remind all of our new members.
- 6:51Speaker 2: As they go through this work week, of like you
- 6:54Speaker 2: can't let them take anything out of the house. You
- 6:57Speaker 2: can't let them take a napkin, even if they you like,
- 7:00Speaker 2: everything has to stay in because it's we would get
- 7:03Speaker 2: such a large fine for it, so you can't really
- 7:06Speaker 2: do anything.
- 7:08Speaker 1: No, definitely, I completely agree. Do you want to talk
- 7:11Speaker 1: about maybe each day? Sure, because I feel like the
- 7:15Speaker 1: bump groups, no matter like, the bump groups are the
- 7:18Speaker 1: most important part. I feel like to preparing the newest
- 7:22Speaker 1: class is typically responsible, but sometimes I feel like I
- 7:27Speaker 1: did it my junior year as well, and I want
- 7:29Speaker 1: to say even my senior year.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Yes, so pretty much all of our active members participate
- 7:36Speaker 2: in RUSH.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Yeah, they're mixed in evenly.
- 7:39Speaker 2: So for the last seven days we've been going through
- 7:42Speaker 2: how to bump correctly. We've been going through run throughs
- 7:44Speaker 2: of each day. So typically on the first two days
- 7:48Speaker 2: or the days where the PI ANDISS get to talk
- 7:50Speaker 2: to the most amount of girls.
- 7:52Speaker 1: That's like the biggest speed dating day. I feel what
- 7:55Speaker 1: is it? It's like, is it five minute rounds?
- 7:58Speaker 2: So the entire round I believe is thirty five minutes,
- 8:01Speaker 2: But you're talking to four girls and you need time.
- 8:04Speaker 3: You need a lot of time to come into the house,
- 8:07Speaker 3: for the.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Girls to do the chant or whatever, and time for
- 8:09Speaker 2: them to leave because of your late PhD will find you.
- 8:13Speaker 3: So it's like drill sergeant day by day.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And so for the last seven days we've spent spending
- 8:19Speaker 2: the entire day going through each party. So like we'll
- 8:22Speaker 2: do a unity, we'll do a Sisterhood day, will do
- 8:25Speaker 2: a Filo day, We'll do preth and we just repeat
- 8:27Speaker 2: those over and over and over, and it's almost like
- 8:30Speaker 2: drill Sergeant, our VP of recruitment. She's awesome, but she
- 8:34Speaker 2: definitely has to be stern and strict. But also I
- 8:37Speaker 2: feel like, because recruitment is about to start, obviously, the
- 8:42Speaker 2: dry period is upon us, and so I feel like
- 8:44Speaker 2: everyone was really eager to go out every night and
- 8:47Speaker 2: be active in the social scene before they could no longer,
- 8:50Speaker 2: and so like a lot of people are showing up
- 8:53Speaker 2: a little bit hungover, but at least they're having a
- 8:56Speaker 2: good time.
- 8:57Speaker 1: No, definitely, because then while recruitment is going on, nobody
- 9:02Speaker 1: can go out, nobody can drink, and then that's a
- 9:06Speaker 1: big risk for even your potential new members because while
- 9:09Speaker 1: they're going through the rush process, they also need to
- 9:12Speaker 1: participate in dry week as well as members that are
- 9:16Speaker 1: already in sororities. So it's pretty dry on campus, I
- 9:20Speaker 1: feel like for that week, or for at least whoever
- 9:23Speaker 1: participates in Greek.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Life seriously, And I feel like even if you were
- 9:28Speaker 2: to drop something off at your boyfriend's house, if you
- 9:30Speaker 2: lived at a frat, if someone got a picture of you,
- 9:33Speaker 2: you would be totally done for. I feel like everyone's
- 9:35Speaker 2: super strict about that and they want to hold other sororities.
- 9:38Speaker 3: To the rule.
- 9:39Speaker 2: So I feel like you're always looking over your shoulder
- 9:40Speaker 2: being like I really hope no one sees me, or
- 9:43Speaker 2: like no one takes this out of context.
- 9:45Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. There definitely is
- 9:49Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, and the people on
- 9:51Speaker 1: the back end, especially exec who are really deep diving
- 9:56Speaker 1: planning each day, making sure everything is coordinated. It's a
- 10:00Speaker 1: lot of pressure.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Seriously, I feel like all of our exec has been
- 10:05Speaker 2: working all summer to get this all prepped, especially like
- 10:08Speaker 2: our VP of Recruitment and so she is living and
- 10:12Speaker 2: breathing recruitment, and even our house manager, like we have
- 10:17Speaker 2: a whole day dedicated to scrubbing the walls with like
- 10:20Speaker 2: mister clean magic erasers get rid of discusss, to like
- 10:24Speaker 2: mow the lawn to get rid of the leave this.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I feel like there's so much more preparation than just
- 10:30Speaker 2: memorizing party flows. You have to clean up your house,
- 10:33Speaker 2: You have to check everyone's room to make sure they
- 10:36Speaker 2: look acceptable and clean.
- 10:38Speaker 3: There's just so many things that we all.
- 10:40Speaker 1: And there's the house tours and everything.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yes, teaching the new members who haven't done the house
- 10:47Speaker 2: tours what rooms to show, what rooms not to show.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Definitely don't take them by the bathrooms that they don't
- 10:52Speaker 2: need to see, the laundry room, like yeah, if you
- 10:54Speaker 2: wouldn't even think about.
- 10:56Speaker 3: So there's definitely a lot of preparation that we've been doing.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Do you kind of want to walk through each day
- 11:15Speaker 1: and kind of just explain what each day looks like
- 11:19Speaker 1: during the recruit during recruitment, Yes, and then kind of
- 11:24Speaker 1: like explain like what preparation is like mainly instilled for
- 11:29Speaker 1: each day.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Yes.
- 11:32Speaker 2: So the way that Berkeley does recruitment is our first
- 11:36Speaker 2: day of recruitment is on the first day of.
- 11:38Speaker 3: Classes, which is today.
- 11:40Speaker 2: So today the p and ms are meeting with their rocas,
- 11:44Speaker 2: meeting the rest of their group, kind of getting acclimated,
- 11:46Speaker 2: but they're not actually visiting any of the houses. That
- 11:49Speaker 2: happens tomorrow and the next day, which is called the
- 11:52Speaker 2: Unity Round. So the Unity Round, the way that Berkeley
- 11:55Speaker 2: does it is they get to go to every single house.
- 11:57Speaker 2: It's split up over two days because they believe we
- 11:59Speaker 2: have about thirteen houses.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I think Rockers had about the same.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's about thirty five minute parties. Every girl
- 12:07Speaker 2: has to go into every single house. You're talking to
- 12:10Speaker 2: about four girls. It's very, very quick. It's the speed
- 12:13Speaker 2: dating round. After each round, each collegiate will go and
- 12:18Speaker 2: vote on their P and M on an online platform,
- 12:21Speaker 2: and then it's just round after round after round. So
- 12:23Speaker 2: after those first two days of Unity days, we'll get
- 12:28Speaker 2: callbacks for Sisterhood round, so that round is only one day.
- 12:32Speaker 2: I feel like most p and ms go to six
- 12:36Speaker 2: or eight houses.
- 12:37Speaker 3: That's like the maxim that you can get. And that
- 12:39Speaker 3: is the day that.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We do our house tours. So you're mostly talking to
- 12:43Speaker 2: two girls on this day, much longer conversations. They're getting
- 12:46Speaker 2: to know you better, You're getting to know our house
- 12:50Speaker 2: kind of, how our sisterhood is in general, how strong
- 12:52Speaker 2: it is. And then after all of those rounds, we're
- 12:55Speaker 2: voting as well. So then callbacks for the third day,
- 12:58Speaker 2: our philanthropy round. As each round goes on and on,
- 13:02Speaker 2: they get longer and longer and you're having more personable, personalized,
- 13:07Speaker 2: intimate conversations with the P and M. It's not as
- 13:10Speaker 2: dating as Unity.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Exactly, and as each round goes on, if you are
- 13:17Speaker 1: forming a connection with this person, let's just say that
- 13:22Speaker 1: you have talked to now since day one. So then
- 13:26Speaker 1: PREF round is the last round where you will talk
- 13:29Speaker 1: to this girl for forty five minutes, and this is
- 13:32Speaker 1: like your time to shine, Like you have to seal
- 13:37Speaker 1: the deal on getting this girl during that round because
- 13:41Speaker 1: she's either going to pick your sorority or another one,
- 13:46Speaker 1: or she could suicide bid, which is obviously really scary
- 13:49Speaker 1: because the sorority also needs to want you to So
- 13:53Speaker 1: during that whole thing, the last round, Philanthropy round is
- 13:58Speaker 1: really the round where you are trying to grab the
- 14:01Speaker 1: girls that you want.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yes, And there is such a steep drop off from
- 14:06Speaker 2: Philanthropy to PREF night you have to basically cut the girls.
- 14:11Speaker 3: That you have returning in half, if not more. And
- 14:14Speaker 3: so the.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Girls coming back on preth we are assuming we one
- 14:18Speaker 2: hundred percent want them. If you're back on PREF, it's
- 14:21Speaker 2: because we want you and we're trying to gauge if
- 14:23Speaker 2: you want us. And then on preth you're talking to
- 14:26Speaker 2: a girl you've talked to.
- 14:27Speaker 3: In a different round.
- 14:27Speaker 2: It's very very rare that you would ever be preffed
- 14:30Speaker 2: by somebody who hadn't talked to in an earlier round,
- 14:33Speaker 2: So that also goes into matching. So after you vote
- 14:36Speaker 2: on a P and M, you can write in your notes, Hey,
- 14:38Speaker 2: I think she would do great with blah blah blah.
- 14:41Speaker 2: So it's never a coincidence after those first few rounds
- 14:44Speaker 2: who you talk to, because we're actively thinking about who
- 14:47Speaker 2: as a sister you would be compatible with and who
- 14:50Speaker 2: could get you to join the house. So after PREF,
- 14:53Speaker 2: I mean pretty much all the rules are out the window.
- 14:57Speaker 2: It depends sorority by sorority, but the way that my
- 14:59Speaker 2: sorority does is no questions off the table. Obviously, there's
- 15:02Speaker 2: things that you're told to avoid during the other rounds
- 15:06Speaker 2: of recruitment. You're not supposed to talk about boys, you're
- 15:08Speaker 2: not supposed to talk about parties, you're not supposed to
- 15:10Speaker 2: talk about politics, all the things people tell you not
- 15:12Speaker 2: to talk about. But I feel like on PREF you
- 15:15Speaker 2: want them to have a transparent view of what the
- 15:17Speaker 2: sorority is and actually know what they're getting into, and
- 15:21Speaker 2: so if it's really not for them, then they don't join,
- 15:23Speaker 2: and they end up joining the house. That's better for them.
- 15:26Speaker 2: And like the way that Berkeley PHC talks about suicide
- 15:31Speaker 2: bidding is like it should never ever ever happen because
- 15:35Speaker 2: I believe it moves you down lower on the house's list,
- 15:38Speaker 2: so they could still want you, but for some reason
- 15:41Speaker 2: it interferes because you didn't rank both houses.
- 15:44Speaker 3: So we always tell people like, even if.
- 15:46Speaker 2: You know you want this one house and you really
- 15:48Speaker 2: really don't want the other one, to still rank the
- 15:51Speaker 2: second house second, because it helps your chances of getting
- 15:54Speaker 2: into the house that you want to be in.
- 15:56Speaker 3: But I'm not sure if it's that way everywhere.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean does not recommend it either to suicide bid,
- 16:03Speaker 1: but I don't think I've ever heard that, which is interesting.
- 16:06Speaker 1: But then I mean, that makes total sense because sometimes
- 16:09Speaker 1: people who suicide bid and then don't get the sorority
- 16:12Speaker 1: they want, and then later on find out that the
- 16:13Speaker 1: sorority actually did want them, but then something got messed
- 16:17Speaker 1: up in the computer system. At that point, it's like
- 16:20Speaker 1: almost too little, too late, and then he needs to
- 16:22Speaker 1: hope that they'll offer you a COB in the future.
- 16:25Speaker 1: So it definitely does get sticky. It's definitely not recommended
- 16:30Speaker 1: at all to suicide bid, like at all but yeah,
- 16:36Speaker 1: but that's also interesting that you guys say all bets
- 16:40Speaker 1: off the table during pref round because when I but
- 16:44Speaker 1: also I think it was kind of like an unspoken
- 16:46Speaker 1: rule at that point, especially at Rutgers, like, Okay, we
- 16:51Speaker 1: made it through this entire thing. You're also talking to
- 16:54Speaker 1: this girl now for longer periods of time each round.
- 16:58Speaker 1: By pref round, it's like, Okay, we need to spice
- 17:03Speaker 1: it up a little bit, Like this is getting a
- 17:05Speaker 1: little boring. I need to start talking to this girl
- 17:08Speaker 1: about some fun things and just fun activities instead of
- 17:11Speaker 1: just asking her like what she wants to do with
- 17:13Speaker 1: her life. So I mean, I totally get that, and
- 17:18Speaker 1: I feel like I also navigated more towards being open
- 17:24Speaker 1: with the girls that I was preffing, because you want
- 17:29Speaker 1: them to also know that they're going to have a
- 17:31Speaker 1: great time and there is a lot of you know,
- 17:35Speaker 1: fun moments in the house and it's not always so
- 17:37Speaker 1: serious and we don't always have to be so you know,
- 17:42Speaker 1: politically correct while speaking to them during recruitment, Yes, because
- 17:47Speaker 1: then you almost like you almost start to feel like
- 17:49Speaker 1: a robot. It's like, oh my god, I'm simp I'm
- 17:52Speaker 1: talking about the same thing over and over and over again.
- 17:56Speaker 2: Yes, And the p and ms can definitely tell when
- 17:59Speaker 2: you're holding back, or you're not saying what you want
- 18:01Speaker 2: to say, or you're having a very surface level conversation.
- 18:04Speaker 2: So I feel like if you then the rules a
- 18:06Speaker 2: little bit, they feel connected to you and they feel
- 18:09Speaker 2: connected to the house, and it just gives more of
- 18:11Speaker 2: the transparent vibe that like, what you see is what
- 18:14Speaker 2: you're going to get and you're gonna be happy with it.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, So the biggest thing during the recruitment process
- 18:24Speaker 1: if you are training for recruitment right now, is definitely
- 18:28Speaker 1: your bump groups. Your bump groups determine your entire routine
- 18:34Speaker 1: during recruitment, and then it just comes down to being
- 18:38Speaker 1: your authentic self and winning these girls to choose your sorority.