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03/20/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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Speaker 7: and frustrated Badgers fans welcome into the huddle. Broadcasting live
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Speaker 7: Drew Wilson, Bill Schmid, armand sorry and oh this is
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Speaker 7: if there's ever a day that lives up to the credo.
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Speaker 7: The mantra that I've had for years is that ninety
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Speaker 7: percent of being a sports fan is getting kicked in
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Speaker 7: the nuts.
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Speaker 2: Kicked in it was yesterday and the way it happened too,
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Speaker 2: and the full.
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Speaker 3: As our friend Dobbler checks in right out of the gates,
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Speaker 3: the robs nighter.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, we suck again.
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Speaker 8: How on earth can that happen at the worst possible moment?
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Speaker 2: Again?
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Speaker 3: No gard and and and and then last night it
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Speaker 3: did feel like it was on repeat.
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Speaker 8: I mean, like when when Johnston hits the shot off
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Speaker 8: one leg in res Benge. Yeah, uh, he doesn't score
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Speaker 8: it all in the first half and drops down one, two, three,
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Speaker 8: six threes.
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Speaker 2: In the second half.
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Speaker 8: And uh, I mean that is just drew your spot
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Speaker 8: on it is. It is the the epitome of brutality.
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Speaker 8: And it does feel like on all opportunities, you'll you'll
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Speaker 8: realize that that there's a reason why them championships are
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Speaker 8: so fun to win and so difficult to get to,
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Speaker 8: because everybody other than that one team there in April
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Speaker 8: is gonna be upset. And that one last night, though,
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Speaker 8: Lee Air Yesterday Afternoon, leaves a different type of sting
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Speaker 8: for the ers.
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Speaker 7: The sting is always brutal, and then it just sends
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Speaker 7: you through your rolodex of bad beats. Well, well, I
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Speaker 7: mean don't have to go that far back to the
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Speaker 7: Packers losing to the Bears. That Brewers Mets loss similar
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Speaker 7: to what happened yesterday, right, Oh yeah, swing of emotion
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Speaker 7: from the Brewers Mats getting a couple homers to Devin
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Speaker 7: Williams giving up a three run jack to Pete Alonzo.
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Speaker 7: Being a sports fans getting kicked in the nets ten
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Speaker 7: percent is avoiding it and being happy. But it was
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Speaker 7: a had kick yesterday for the Badgers. The Greg Guard
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Speaker 7: haters are having their moment.
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Speaker 3: They're having their moment. They're out of their colle seven three.
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Speaker 3: You're out there and you're loving it.
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Speaker 7: You were secretly rooting against the Badgers or maybe how
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Speaker 7: does that dynamic work? You hate Greg Card so you
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Speaker 7: don't want them to succeed so that they'll change, But
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Speaker 7: you want them to succeed because you are a Badger
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Speaker 7: fan built you just want the So that must be.
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Speaker 3: That must be a tough existence, the conundrum, that's for sure.
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Speaker 3: I have a theory on it, you know a little bit.
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Speaker 3: And we talked a little bit about people that want
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Speaker 3: a cheer to be right these days more than anything right,
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Speaker 3: want to prove themselves right. Deep down, those I think
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Speaker 3: those fans want their team to win, but yeah, there
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Speaker 3: is a quality of like, well so you guys saw
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Speaker 3: this coming and it's like, well, really, like now you
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Speaker 3: want everyone to think you're right?
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Speaker 2: Are you really chating for your team?
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Speaker 3: And this this issue now that's starting to pervade with
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Speaker 3: the guard and the tournament if it's not that different
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Speaker 3: than what bo Ryan dealt with early on in his tenure.
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Speaker 3: He was losing to a lot of higher seeds. There
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Speaker 3: was those same questions about bow until they finally broke
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Speaker 3: through and kind of and kind of became a national
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Speaker 3: Player of the Year. It was crazy, yeah players and
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Speaker 3: the tournament players.
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Speaker 7: That's one that got yesterday. It's like bo Ryan never
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Speaker 7: would have accepted this. This wouldn't have been the standard.
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Speaker 7: It's like Bo Ryan lost in a first round matchup
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Speaker 7: like a couple of times, a.
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Speaker 2: Couple of different times, multiple times.
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Speaker 3: The higher seats they had, the Davidson loss, the Cornell loss, Uh,
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Speaker 3: there were more. I'm forgetting was a Southwest Missouri state
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Speaker 3: that might have been Dick Bennett, but the reality is
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Speaker 3: he had he was kind of but that was okay.
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Speaker 3: The UNLV they lost is I think at two seven
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Speaker 3: this cloud was hanging over him until they finally broke through.
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Speaker 2: And now guards starting to have this issue.
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Speaker 3: And it's disappointing because you can do a lot of
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Speaker 3: good things in five months and and and you are
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Speaker 3: going to be judged on tournament time, and as losses go,
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Speaker 3: you know, the loss is a meal served to you.
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Speaker 3: This one was served especially especially disgustingly. I talked about
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Speaker 3: my cookies theory all the time, but it's one of
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Speaker 3: those situa where you had to fight with it. A
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Speaker 3: really a really good hy Point team. We talked about it.
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Speaker 3: They won fourteen in a row, now fifteen. They had
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Speaker 3: been difficult throughout they they definitely were good enough to
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Speaker 3: hang with you. But you thought you had in there
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Speaker 3: at the end up for late, you thought you were
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Speaker 3: gonna close it out. And I think that's the that's
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Speaker 3: what really is sour for Badger fans is like it
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Speaker 3: looked like we were gonna survive it, and then a
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Speaker 3: series of a series of plays at the end that
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Speaker 3: don't go your way, that you kind of fail at
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Speaker 3: in the most important moment.
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Speaker 8: There was a book series called The Series of Unfortunate Events,
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Speaker 8: and that ultimately transpired very quickly for the Badgers, including
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Speaker 8: the Blackwell, you think you're gonna get the ball back
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Speaker 8: that it gets overturned, Like yes, there's just that, there's
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Speaker 8: so much to it, and understandably so, though you go
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Speaker 8: back to years in which you break through and think, well, dang,
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Speaker 8: there was a situation like that in right against Arizona
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Speaker 8: in one of the elitiates where it looked like they
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Speaker 8: got the ball and then it went off a tray
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Speaker 8: and then and then pounced out like there's there's a
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Speaker 8: lot of times or the Oregon run right, you're down
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Speaker 8: twelve at halftime, you're in. It's a little bit different,
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Speaker 8: and last night you could tell the Jim quick quickly
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Speaker 8: flips and that's the clip that a lot of arts
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Speaker 8: off fans were having fun with yesterday. I thought that
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Speaker 8: was gonna be the point where the Badgers really were
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Speaker 8: able to thrive, and when the game was still hectic,
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Speaker 8: they did. But once it slowed down into that half
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Speaker 8: court style, and that was the one part that I
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Speaker 8: didn't anticipate, guys, was that the ball was gonna stick
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Speaker 8: so much, and there was like the last series, you know,
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Speaker 8: Boyd's gonna take the last shot. Oh yeah, boys gonna
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Speaker 8: take the last shot, but there's no action, there's no movement.
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Speaker 8: Winters right on the near block that the help side
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Speaker 8: comes from. That it just felt not similar to what
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Speaker 8: you had watched all year long, especially in some of
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Speaker 8: those pressure packed moments Good Point and I thought it
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Speaker 8: was big credit to High Point to force that issue
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Speaker 8: later into the game. I also didn't know that we
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Speaker 8: had a WWE.
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Speaker 2: Manager on the other sideline.
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Speaker 8: If I would have known my man was gonna cut
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Speaker 8: that kind of promo I would have been all over
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Speaker 8: catching ten and a half because you I didn't realize
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Speaker 8: the kind and should have right, you absolutely should have won.
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Speaker 8: A team wins thirty games and fourteen consecutive that they
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Speaker 8: were coming in with the Miami of Ohio chip on
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Speaker 8: their shoulder. When he rips that thing over to Jared
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Speaker 8: Greenberg right out of the games, I think Hi Major's
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Speaker 8: got playoffs. They say we don't play anybody. They gotta
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Speaker 8: play us now. So we're gonna see if he can
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Speaker 8: keep if they back that stuff up coming up next
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Speaker 8: on Saturday. But it was an impressive, impressive close from
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Speaker 8: a team Drew that we talk about it on Packers
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Speaker 8: Oti all the time. These teams learn how to win
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Speaker 8: each year. They've learned how to win just about any
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Speaker 8: game they play. When you win fourteen in a row,
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Speaker 8: whatever the score is down ten in the second half,
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Speaker 8: I don't think confidence really wavered in those guys in
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Speaker 8: the Purple.
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Speaker 3: And it certainly feels like the end of that Packer game,
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Speaker 3: the end of the Packer season. In those moments when
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Speaker 3: when the late the collapse happens, you sit around wondering,
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Speaker 3: how did that just happen? How do we just lose
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Speaker 3: that game? What just happened? Series of unfortunate events remind
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Speaker 3: me too much early of the playoff game. And we
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Speaker 3: tend to fetishize these things. We've talked about this, Billy
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Speaker 3: and Drew. We thought we used to talk about this.
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Speaker 3: How we as sports fans around here we do what
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Speaker 3: we do this? Here we go again, more heartbreak, more situations.
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Speaker 3: You know, I have some terrible numbers to run down
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Speaker 3: about the last ten years of NCAA tournament appearances for
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Speaker 3: Wisconsin and for Marquette. Obviously, anything local in the last
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Speaker 3: ten years since the final four Wisconsin's oz and three
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Speaker 3: on the five seed Marquette's losses of five seed for
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Speaker 3: first round exits from Marquette three for Wisconsin. You know,
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Speaker 3: if you one a fan of one or the other
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Speaker 3: fan of both, you're not feeling good about it. So
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Speaker 3: we we tend to joke about how we fetishize our disappointment,
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Speaker 3: our losses, our collapses, our heartbreaking in the playoffs as
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Speaker 3: Wisconsin sports fans.
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Speaker 2: And unfortunately another chapter to be written here.
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Speaker 7: So it's all how you get there, though, because I
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Speaker 7: had said I was trying to envision what a loss
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Speaker 7: would feel like, you did? You foresaw that, trying to
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Speaker 7: see what it would be like now had they won
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Speaker 7: yesterday and taken care of business and then lost to Arkansas,
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Speaker 7: we'd be having the same conversation with Guard haters, can't
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Speaker 7: get out of the first weekend, you sweet, can't get
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Speaker 7: to the sweet sixteen?
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Speaker 2: What do we you been doing? What are we doing?
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Speaker 2: Rid of him?
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Speaker 7: And then the parallels there, it's like, okay, fire guard,
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Speaker 7: fire everybody right, fire Tom is though he hasn't won
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Speaker 7: a championship.
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Speaker 2: Since two thousand, good luck with that one. He's been a.
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Speaker 7: Twenty eighth straight Tournament's like, what's you know, what's the point?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 7: So you go to the what he's been to in
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Speaker 7: the well, he went to a bunch of final fours
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Speaker 7: in the first decade and then that hasn't been as often.
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Speaker 7: I think the last time there was like six, seven
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Speaker 7: years ago whatever. But it's like, at what point if
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Speaker 7: you don't win a championship do you fire the coach
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Speaker 7: every year? The basketball program under guard, I know people
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Speaker 7: draw the parallel, like we.
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Speaker 2: Just accept mediocrity.
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Speaker 7: That's why we have Lafleur, right, that's why we have Paul.
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Speaker 7: That's why Paul. Chris got fired because we didn't accept mediocrity.
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Speaker 7: Then Luke Fickel came in. And what have they done?
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Speaker 7: Not much, not much, not much so the change in
10:51
Speaker 7: the new thing, yeah, the regressive regression.
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Speaker 2: But the basketball program underguard.
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Speaker 7: Is not like what it's not sliding into the abyss
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Speaker 7: the way the football program was with christ Like they
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Speaker 7: are modern and using the portal and their point. They're
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Speaker 7: actually like killing it, like getting guys and they're doing
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Speaker 7: a great job and they've reinvented. And he didn't stay
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Speaker 7: the same. He evolved. Now he hasn't won. Okay, that's
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Speaker 7: that's the job. But if you look at the bones
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Speaker 7: of it, the basketball house is in better shape than
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Speaker 7: the football House when they got rid of Paul christ
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Speaker 7: I think, oh yeah, well in the UH, and frankly,
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Speaker 7: the basketball house is probably the best looking one on
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Speaker 7: the block. So you're you're looking at process as much
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Speaker 7: as results. Was the process flawed? Did they do anything egregious?
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Speaker 7: Like the players didn't execute, they didn't win like the
11:38
Speaker 7: season long defensive deficiencies were exposed. Yep, right, But they
11:43
Speaker 7: got to where they were because of the way that
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Speaker 7: they played right, and they scored eighty, which was usually
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Speaker 7: their magic number, the threshold. The first time they've lost,
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Speaker 7: scoring eighty.
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Speaker 2: You chuck it as a fluky thing.
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Speaker 7: But you look at the To me, you look at
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Speaker 7: the process more than the results, and the process was
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Speaker 7: pretty solid. Now again, it's gotta you're gonna have to
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Speaker 7: replace Boyd. You're gonna have to, you know, go back
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Speaker 7: and keep that portal success going. And it has been.
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Speaker 7: But it's the old people hated here bites of the
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Speaker 7: apple theory. What's better? Like, okay, let's go switch now
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Speaker 7: now it's a different uh, it's a different trip with Shaka.
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Speaker 2: Shaka's was taking the slings and arrows.
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Speaker 7: They won a game against yukon a meaningless regular season game, right,
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Speaker 7: but it meant something to them and it's put some
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Speaker 7: wind in the sales, and so Shaka rode that out.
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Speaker 7: So Shaka can ride out what a twenty loss season
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Speaker 7: better than Guard can ride out a first round exit.
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Speaker 3: Like, well, yeah, make that makes sense, right, I think
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Speaker 3: both will and I think Guard will.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But to your point, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a little different, just because the way
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Speaker 3: people feel about what's happened with Gard has been like
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Speaker 3: process over results. I agree, But the problem is in
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Speaker 3: college basketball we focus more on results, especially as small
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Speaker 3: sample than ever. Right, So Guard hasn't been able to
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Speaker 3: do that in March. He's won, but he hasn't won
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Speaker 3: enough in March in the tournament.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think the other part of it is,
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Speaker 8: and the funny thing about the comparison of Shaka to
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Speaker 8: Greg Gard would be you do it early enough and
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Speaker 8: it never goes away. I mean, Shaka smart took that
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Speaker 8: team to the Final four in twenty eleven, and since
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Speaker 8: then he's had the same questions as.
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Speaker 3: Much, some would say worse. I mean, they have the
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Speaker 3: one trip to the Sweet six teams.
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Speaker 8: If they didn't have that, you know, you would have
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Speaker 8: heard it even loud much much different stories, So like,
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Speaker 8: I totally get it, and it does come down to
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Speaker 8: this tournament. It's a it's a final exam that's always
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Speaker 8: weighted on the grading scale. But when you look at
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Speaker 8: the way that they had built it, drew I think
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Speaker 8: that's why maybe it was more surprising. However, it probably
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Speaker 8: shouldn't have been. You hit on it. It was the defensive
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Speaker 8: issues that kind of plagued him all year long that
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Speaker 8: ran him down in the end and were unable to
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Speaker 8: avoid it. But they did have the couple of mainstays
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Speaker 8: who were legit players that got the help from the
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Speaker 8: supplement in the train for Portal, right, the Blackwells and Winters.
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Speaker 8: Obviously Janicki not being able to play I think was tough.
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Speaker 8: Winter I also think clearly hampered right, like that last
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Speaker 8: play maybe not the right throw to Winter because I
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Speaker 8: don't know that he could go up and get that
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Speaker 8: ball as much right now is hurt. But again, you
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Speaker 8: try to get into the front court instead of a
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Speaker 8: half court. He like gar said, Guard said later into
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Speaker 8: the night in the press conference, where I think there
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Speaker 8: was one intern there. That was all there was in
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Speaker 8: the press conference. But like you, you hear teams wanting
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Speaker 8: drew some kind of backbone and that was what was
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Speaker 8: I think that's the toughest pill to swallow for this one,
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Speaker 8: because they have now hit three out of three years
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Speaker 8: with one of the most electric transfers in the country,
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Speaker 8: Boyd's Store, Panja all phenomenal in that run. They also
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Speaker 8: had Blackwell and Winter. I don't know that they'll have
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Speaker 8: both going in next year. And when you have significant
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Speaker 8: players that are able to help kind of set the
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Speaker 8: culture and then you're unable to get home, that's what
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Speaker 8: I think makes this one sting a little bit more
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Speaker 8: because you did have that little bit of a bones
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Speaker 8: and now you're gonna have to see if you have
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Speaker 8: any young players inside the program that are able to
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Speaker 8: do that.
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Speaker 3: I think next year, yeah, And that next step is
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Speaker 3: gonna be another challenge for them to rebuild that, as
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Speaker 3: is the college basketball landscape now every year. I think
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Speaker 3: what's also tough about it? And you know, if I
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Speaker 3: would have told you that Wisconsin would be victim to
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Speaker 3: a five twelve upset against High a point, you would
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Speaker 3: have said, what did we not do well? We must
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Speaker 3: have missed a lot of shots, we must not have executed,
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Speaker 3: or our stars didn't come to play or it was
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Speaker 3: a Blackwell cold game. Well, but none of that happened, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, your your big guards came to play, both
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Speaker 3: perform well. Twenty seven for Boy, twenty two for Blackwell.
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Speaker 3: Both shot fifty percent in high volume. They combined to
15:41
Speaker 3: go over fifty percent on three. As a team, you
15:43
Speaker 3: shot thirty nine percent on three. All those numbers are good,
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Speaker 3: all those secondary numbers were good. But high Point was
15:48
Speaker 3: right there with you on their offensive and they shot
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Speaker 3: really well in the second half from three when they
15:52
Speaker 3: were cold.
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Speaker 2: So that's the other frustrating part.
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Speaker 3: You don't walk away saying, well, there's nothing we you know,
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Speaker 3: we could have done better. I mean, there's always things
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Speaker 3: you can do better. You can always play better per possession.
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Speaker 3: But it was those defensive issues on the defensive end,
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Speaker 3: and high Point ran their stuff and they executed in
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Speaker 3: the second half except for the late sequence, you know,
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Speaker 3: and not getting back on the fast break and things
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Speaker 3: like that. You don't look at it and say, boy,
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Speaker 3: we just we had one of those three for forty
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Speaker 3: John Stark's game seven performances that really did us in
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Speaker 3: and that's why we lost. The shooting numbers were there,
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Speaker 3: but it just wasn't enough for the Badgers against a
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Speaker 3: high Point team that clearly had something to prove. As
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Speaker 3: you mentioned that Johnston two drew. Wouldn't that feel like
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Speaker 3: if you were in a football game, like Tom Brady's
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Speaker 3: running one in. My man goes four of six in
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Speaker 3: the second half, doesn't score the first they're just unconscious.
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Speaker 2: They bank the one triple in and then all of a.
16:44
Speaker 8: Sudden, Oh, he's the outlet pass and nobody's in the
16:47
Speaker 8: only zip code.
16:48
Speaker 2: Interesting.
16:49
Speaker 3: It's like to you know, excuse me for using a
16:52
Speaker 3: really old reference, but it's like a buck the Bucky
16:54
Speaker 3: Dent home run, Like that guy's gonna do it. The
16:57
Speaker 3: thing about it, Billy is, I'm like, that's ninety nine.
17:00
Speaker 3: That's Chase Johnson. I think catching that and he was open,
17:03
Speaker 3: and I'm like, he's going straight out into the basket,
17:05
Speaker 3: so he has no really good angle for the glass.
17:07
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I think he's gonna blow this layup.
17:09
Speaker 3: Like in my head, I was hopeful he was gonna
17:11
Speaker 3: blow the layup, like because he wasn't used to the situation.
17:14
Speaker 3: It was too straight on. So it's like, I don't
17:16
Speaker 3: bank it, but I lay it up soft. I mean
17:18
Speaker 3: he didn't do it, but I was like, I was
17:20
Speaker 3: hopeful he was gonnall that blow that layup, and that's
17:23
Speaker 3: how the Badgers were gonna win the game. In the moment,
17:25
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is gonna happen, this is up my
17:27
Speaker 3: mind works, you know. I I kind of I process
17:29
Speaker 3: on hope and I had that.
17:31
Speaker 2: Hope and it didn't it didn't come through eight Do absolute.
17:39
Speaker 3: If you're talking to twenty three year old arm and
17:41
Speaker 3: it was totally different. I agree in this one. I
17:43
Speaker 3: was like, I felt bad for card.
17:45
Speaker 8: Well, then that's good because that you at least admitted
17:47
Speaker 8: that there was some twenty three year old arm in
17:48
Speaker 8: that would have been oh, like a lot of interest.
17:52
Speaker 8: Like a lot of folks at the Pottawana Bee sports
17:53
Speaker 8: book yesterday drew.
17:54
Speaker 2: As I was watching the Badger game.
17:56
Speaker 3: There a lot of Marquette gear, a lot of m
17:59
Speaker 3: you that was rocking. That's interesting, And there were a
18:02
Speaker 3: lot of high point chiers.
18:03
Speaker 8: And there were a lot of high point chiers in
18:06
Speaker 8: a sports book that doesn't offer the underdog and plus
18:09
Speaker 8: three sixties. So there were a lot of people cheering
18:11
Speaker 8: against the home team there yesterday. In in the sports book,
18:14
Speaker 8: it was interesting.
18:15
Speaker 2: So where do they go from here?
18:16
Speaker 7: Like this is uh is this it's worse than the
18:19
Speaker 7: b YU loss last year and he lost it always bad.
18:22
Speaker 7: James Madison was a bad loss.
18:24
Speaker 2: That was more.
18:24
Speaker 3: I'd say James Madison was the worst of the three
18:26
Speaker 3: if we're talking about it, because I agree they got
18:28
Speaker 3: blown out and that game was not competitive.
18:31
Speaker 2: I think they end up closed. Closing the Iowa State
18:33
Speaker 2: wasn't great.
18:34
Speaker 3: But to your point, Bill uh Drew, excuse me, the expectations.
18:39
Speaker 3: It seemed they were poised for a deeper and better
18:41
Speaker 3: and promising March run. That's why, not only.
18:44
Speaker 7: Why the haters, why is that so it's a letdown
18:49
Speaker 7: because you expected more?
18:50
Speaker 2: Why did you expect more.
18:51
Speaker 7: Because they had a good team, because they had a
18:53
Speaker 7: good roster and they were built for tournament success and
18:56
Speaker 7: it didn't happen.
18:58
Speaker 8: It's like your ten point lead theory takes, don't I
19:00
Speaker 8: wanted to have a team that gets ten point leads
19:02
Speaker 8: in the final five minutes. Like if they continue to
19:05
Speaker 8: build those up, you're gonna feel a lot better.
19:07
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can blow three of them in one season.
19:09
Speaker 3: But now, yeah, it's like and they had a bit
19:12
Speaker 3: of a size advantage. That didn't didn't weigh out right,
19:14
Speaker 3: they didn't.
19:15
Speaker 7: And Nolan Winter coming back off the injury, how effective
19:18
Speaker 7: did he look to you?
19:19
Speaker 2: He was battling man how you know?
19:21
Speaker 3: Yeah?
19:21
Speaker 2: What didn't see? What disappointed means? And they played seven guys?
19:26
Speaker 7: Yeah, the high point, I just went seven deep. So
19:32
Speaker 7: that was like their their depth there, It's like they're
19:34
Speaker 7: a player short.
19:35
Speaker 2: You know.
19:35
Speaker 7: It was like that to me, like that's that's one
19:38
Speaker 7: thing I'm looking at, is like the only played seven
19:40
Speaker 7: guys in this game.
19:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I thought I thought they'd be better
19:43
Speaker 3: on the glass. They got out rebounded in the first half,
19:46
Speaker 3: offensively in the first half. Yeah, so that was that
19:49
Speaker 3: was maybe the biggest disappointment of the size situation because
19:52
Speaker 3: we know the Badgers play outside in sometimes as well,
19:54
Speaker 3: So I didn't know if it was going to be
19:55
Speaker 3: just posted up and blodding them all game.
19:57
Speaker 2: That's just not the way they play. But you know,
20:00
Speaker 2: in that sense, you know, you you do wonder.
20:02
Speaker 3: Okay, now they've embraced this new style, which is good
20:05
Speaker 3: and it gets a lot of points. But you thought
20:07
Speaker 3: with the size advantage they'd be better on the glass,
20:09
Speaker 3: and that that just did and maybe that was overstated
20:11
Speaker 3: a bit because I don't know about you guys, you know,
20:13
Speaker 3: watching High Point, they didn't seem super small to me
20:15
Speaker 3: with just eye test, even though the numbers, you know,
20:18
Speaker 3: the listed heights and stuff are different.
20:19
Speaker 2: But I could be wrong. It's just my opinion.
20:21
Speaker 8: But they played physical and fast. I mean, like that's that.
20:24
Speaker 8: That's again like big time credit to them. It's it's
20:27
Speaker 8: difficult because the Badgers are in a two point game
20:29
Speaker 8: at half of the twelve seed, right, so you know
20:31
Speaker 8: that anything is going to be subject to That's happened
20:34
Speaker 8: down the way.
20:35
Speaker 7: You're up ten in the first half, So keep that
20:36
Speaker 7: cushion man, keep correct, keep their foot on the throat.
20:39
Speaker 2: It was like to give them the hope.
20:41
Speaker 3: It kind of felt like the close to every four
20:44
Speaker 3: minute segment High Point had a little bit of an
20:46
Speaker 3: answer to pull it together right right.
20:47
Speaker 7: Now for folks who want Greg Guard fired eight seven
20:50
Speaker 7: seven seven nine seven three, you know that's right that
20:55
Speaker 7: you have to buy them out for eight million.
20:56
Speaker 2: You even go find a new coach.
20:57
Speaker 3: And pay that new coach and pay the players, and
21:01
Speaker 3: that new coach is gonna have to find money to
21:02
Speaker 3: pay the players.
21:03
Speaker 7: And then yeah, and then you might have to pay
21:05
Speaker 7: that a buyout for that to get the new right
21:08
Speaker 7: away from it.
21:09
Speaker 2: So it's like okay, and then money.
21:11
Speaker 7: If not Greg Guard, you want someone who give us
21:14
Speaker 7: names and what trips your trigger and what Luke fickle
21:17
Speaker 7: of this cycle.
21:17
Speaker 2: And what's the threshold on success is it?
21:19
Speaker 7: Then you know that's not higher the next luc So
21:23
Speaker 7: Greg Guard's buyout would be eight million if they fire
21:26
Speaker 7: him before June first.
21:27
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's.
21:29
Speaker 3: It's just hard to believe it would happen just because
21:31
Speaker 3: of all the good things he's done.
21:33
Speaker 2: But I mean, but hey, if you're.
21:35
Speaker 7: A Gregguard hitter and you want to dump your bucket,
21:37
Speaker 7: we're here for you. Eight seven seven seven nine seven three.
21:40
Speaker 7: We'll get into the rest of the tournament, the brackets,
21:42
Speaker 7: a couple other upsets. There's, believe it or not, fan
21:44
Speaker 7: bases that are more pissed off.
21:46
Speaker 2: Than the Badger's fan base. Right now, North Carolina man
21:50
Speaker 2: talk about blowing leads nine Wow, we'll talk.
21:53
Speaker 7: About that much more bucks got blown out Brewers less
21:56
Speaker 7: than a week until opening day. We're gonna have some
21:59
Speaker 7: fun today. It's the Friday addition to the Huddle. Fox
22:01
Speaker 7: Sports Radio Wisconsin.
22:07
Speaker 3: That's just the way my.
22:19
Speaker 6: Funny edition to the huddle, Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
22:23
Speaker 2: It's a lovely day.
22:25
Speaker 7: It's forty six degrees when I exited my vehicle here
22:28
Speaker 7: at otherwise, Yeah, lovely day, but uh, clouds over it
22:32
Speaker 7: because the Badgers are done. That's just another like the
22:34
Speaker 7: winter is coming, Like the tournament in these parts was
22:37
Speaker 7: over almost before it started.
22:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that one.
22:40
Speaker 8: That's the worst part about playing in the first game
22:42
Speaker 8: is that the rest of the games yesterday all just
22:44
Speaker 8: made me sad. And then I did begin to become
22:46
Speaker 8: the biggest Siena fan that there possibly was.
22:49
Speaker 2: That was amazing. For a second, I'm like, are they
22:51
Speaker 2: really gonna not because I'd like this. They gotta bail
22:52
Speaker 2: out the Badgers. Bail out the Badgers.
22:54
Speaker 3: I was like, man, how bad if you're a Syracuse
22:57
Speaker 3: fan right now, how much are you begging that the
23:00
Speaker 3: administration for Jerry McNamara. Not to get too off topic here,
23:03
Speaker 3: but my goodness, they don't hire him. They're stupid. Now.
23:05
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm with you on that one. It seems
23:07
Speaker 2: like a slam dun hire.
23:08
Speaker 3: But I it really looked like they were gonna pull
23:10
Speaker 3: off the upset, and I said, as we've had sixteen
23:12
Speaker 3: ones now in the past. Obviously twice right U MDC,
23:16
Speaker 3: WE NBC happened against UH Virginia and Fairley Dickinson Purdue.
23:19
Speaker 3: But this would be the biggest because it's Duke, Right,
23:22
Speaker 3: Did anyone else feel that way? And the way they
23:23
Speaker 3: were beating him? I'm like, oh, my goodness, but did
23:26
Speaker 3: Duke avoid disaster?
23:27
Speaker 2: They did? But that would have been fun to watch.
23:29
Speaker 3: In the rest of a in the rest of a
23:31
Speaker 3: day that was pretty chalky, and not just in terms
23:34
Speaker 3: of the wins, but the way these the teams won.
23:36
Speaker 3: And I know that was like the storyline going in,
23:39
Speaker 3: but you know you had like enough for Michigan, Michigan, Nebraska,
23:42
Speaker 3: Michigan State rolling up with like thirty point wins.
23:44
Speaker 2: So and uh the late cover by who was it?
23:48
Speaker 3: I saw Howard covered the thirty and a half.
23:51
Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, Hey, Michigan, are we are we kidding
23:55
Speaker 8: with Dusty May the Final four coach and we are
23:59
Speaker 8: not being able to cover against Howard and their coaches
24:02
Speaker 8: are in legit wind pants.
24:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:03
Speaker 3: In the Arkansas Hawaii game, they're up seventeen, about to
24:06
Speaker 3: run the clock out and dude takes a layup to
24:08
Speaker 3: cover the eighteen and a half. I don't know, a
24:11
Speaker 3: little weird but that, but just so it was a
24:13
Speaker 3: chalky day, but that unfortunately.
24:16
Speaker 2: Maybe Rob Manfred and Kelsey were there.
24:18
Speaker 7: And again I want to hear from the fire Guard
24:20
Speaker 7: crowd because this is your moment, Like this is like
24:22
Speaker 7: step to into the spotlight.
24:24
Speaker 3: This is it.
24:24
Speaker 7: This is for you to tell us how smart you
24:27
Speaker 7: are and why he has to go. But then we
24:28
Speaker 7: want to know the next step of who do you
24:31
Speaker 7: like to replace him? And then what would change fundamentally,
24:35
Speaker 7: Like again, like great Guards manipulated the portal, He's updated
24:39
Speaker 7: his offense. He doesn't run the swing anymore that people
24:42
Speaker 7: like hated they're scoring in the eighties and nineties, like
24:44
Speaker 7: they're a legit program with no real recent run of
24:49
Speaker 7: March success.
24:49
Speaker 8: And Drew, I think the only difference is like if
24:51
Speaker 8: you can get a little bit of the and I'd
24:54
Speaker 8: love to get Butchi's take on this, and hopefully we
24:56
Speaker 8: can talk to him yesterday or so next week. And
24:58
Speaker 8: I saw he posted a really cool video before they
25:00
Speaker 8: all got on the plane and left.
25:02
Speaker 2: Yesterday and they got a bout of there quickly.
25:03
Speaker 8: Yeah, was that like, if you could marry some of
25:07
Speaker 8: the old school defensive stuff that like were just non
25:10
Speaker 8: negotiables for the Badgers with their offensive explosion, then you
25:14
Speaker 8: don't know what could potentially happen.
25:16
Speaker 1: But I like it.
25:17
Speaker 8: You ask for the Greg Guard haters, and our friend
25:18
Speaker 8: jeff and Milwaukee, Jeffrey and Milwaukee said, even my cousin,
25:21
Speaker 8: who is a massive Greg Guard hater, admitted Guard coach
25:25
Speaker 8: disass off this year.
25:26
Speaker 3: This is just the nature of March madness. An emphasis
25:28
Speaker 3: on the madness part.
25:30
Speaker 2: It really is.
25:30
Speaker 7: And then again when it gets to firing guys and
25:33
Speaker 7: I get it, and people like, how are these things
25:35
Speaker 7: were accepting mediocrity by allowing this to happen, and then
25:39
Speaker 7: just go back and I mentioned Izzo and his body
25:41
Speaker 7: of work hasn't won a title since two thous twenty
25:43
Speaker 7: five years without a title. He's been to like two
25:46
Speaker 7: final fours in the last fifteen, I think, But for
25:49
Speaker 7: is that the standard for them or is he He's
25:51
Speaker 7: just gonna coach forever. Tony Bennett at Virginia his tournament results,
25:57
Speaker 7: so it's so interesting. This sweet six then knocked out
26:01
Speaker 7: in the round of thirty two after winning the first game,
26:03
Speaker 7: didn't make it Elite eight knocked out on the second day,
26:08
Speaker 7: and then losing the sixteen to one, Like if you're
26:12
Speaker 7: ever going to fire a guy, right, that would have
26:14
Speaker 7: been it.
26:15
Speaker 2: And then the next year they won the championship.
26:17
Speaker 7: So crazy, So like the four years running up to that,
26:21
Speaker 7: you're like, well, he just can't get over the humpy
26:22
Speaker 7: can't win the big one. And then he loses a
26:25
Speaker 7: historic but Maryland Baltimore County beats him historic fashion, and
26:30
Speaker 7: it's like he survived that and then won the championship
26:32
Speaker 7: the next year.
26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the randomness of the March results.
26:36
Speaker 7: Was maybe, yeah, but again the statute of limitations and like,
26:39
Speaker 7: what is you can't win.
26:43
Speaker 3: Couldn't get to a final four until he went to
26:45
Speaker 3: t in a row, right, great example. Yeah, and then
26:47
Speaker 3: you know it's like, so again do you keep running
26:50
Speaker 3: it back? And I asked Doug about it yesterday. I'd
26:52
Speaker 3: love to give your guys take on it. Is he
26:54
Speaker 3: still fighting a little bit of the Soderberg comparison, a
26:57
Speaker 3: little bit like it's just like, hey, and why they
27:01
Speaker 3: never actually went and looked for a coach who could
27:03
Speaker 3: have been the coach, but clearly one was able to
27:07
Speaker 3: keep the job. The other one doesn't happen, right, So, like,
27:10
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a fair comparison, but you know
27:13
Speaker 3: that the people are always going to be struggling to
27:15
Speaker 3: get away from their first first glance and their first impression.
27:19
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I think he did for a while.
27:21
Speaker 3: I don't know if he still is, but I think
27:23
Speaker 3: he's proven he's a good coach and worthy of the
27:25
Speaker 3: job obviously at this point. But there were people wondering
27:29
Speaker 3: that maybe there are still some that wonder. Billy likes
27:31
Speaker 3: this just the rebound that you took because it was
27:33
Speaker 3: you know, that's a good question, and because he was advocated.
27:37
Speaker 2: So strongly for by BO.
27:38
Speaker 3: I think he definitely fought some of that, especially when
27:41
Speaker 3: he had good results early on in his tenure in
27:43
Speaker 3: the tournament. Had this week sixteen only was a miracle
27:45
Speaker 3: shot away from maybe going deeper.
27:47
Speaker 2: In that one.
27:48
Speaker 3: They beat Villanoble as an eight to one, they beat
27:50
Speaker 3: not when Villanoble was a one seed. That's a really
27:52
Speaker 3: good question, Billy. I think for most people it's passed
27:56
Speaker 3: by now, but maybe maybe not. Maybe that is a
27:58
Speaker 3: that is something that it's you know, the idea, Well,
28:01
Speaker 3: what could we do if we went out and really
28:03
Speaker 3: flashed our Wisconsin brand, if we spread our feathers and
28:06
Speaker 3: peacocked around and said the Wisconsin job is open. There's
28:09
Speaker 3: a lot of people that deep down want to believe
28:12
Speaker 3: that that brand is sexy enough to attract the greatest,
28:14
Speaker 3: and a lot of program fan bases go through this
28:17
Speaker 3: that that I don't want to say. They they think
28:21
Speaker 3: that that given the use the B word, which one
28:25
Speaker 3: is that you use that delusional word. I didn't use
28:28
Speaker 3: that word, no, no, but they they would like to
28:31
Speaker 3: think that everyone sees them the way they see them
28:34
Speaker 3: as this is the pedestal of the shining Beacon of
28:36
Speaker 3: Light program, and therefore everybody'd want to coach here. I
28:40
Speaker 3: think fan bases of every program go through that sort
28:42
Speaker 3: of Yeah, they go through that little bit. I didn't
28:46
Speaker 3: use that word.
28:46
Speaker 2: They go through that bit.
28:47
Speaker 8: All right, let's get a let's get a couple of
28:49
Speaker 8: good texts in here, Chris and Lodi. First of all,
28:52
Speaker 8: Ighlight Guard Yesterday was obviously a tough bill to swallow,
28:55
Speaker 8: but the perfect example of death by a million paper cuts.
28:58
Speaker 3: One less turnover, you you grab one more loose ball,
29:03
Speaker 3: you win. One less replay review, you win one more rebound,
29:08
Speaker 3: you win one more layup, you win one less, one
29:13
Speaker 3: more rebound. Unfortunately, and finally there and now they're out.
29:17
Speaker 2: It's just like there was.
29:19
Speaker 3: It had to take a perfect storm.
29:20
Speaker 8: And I think that's one of the reasons why, obviously
29:22
Speaker 8: you give so much credit to High Point to be
29:24
Speaker 8: able to make the plays down the stretch. But Drew,
29:26
Speaker 8: I mean, people were using the choke word yesterday and like,
29:29
Speaker 8: it's it's difficult when you're that close and you feel
29:34
Speaker 8: Armin's cookie theory and you're that close to it, it's
29:37
Speaker 8: hard to figure out how you can make that many
29:40
Speaker 8: potential mistakes down down the stretch. And I thought Greg
29:43
Speaker 8: said it pretty well in the post game too.
29:46
Speaker 3: He just openly said it, of we made too many
29:50
Speaker 3: mistakes that we just can't make down the stretch, and
29:53
Speaker 3: some uncharacteristic things are the ones that ultimately bite you
29:57
Speaker 3: in the hind parts on the way out, and that
29:59
Speaker 3: I I don't know is similar. Like our friend Mike
30:01
Speaker 3: in the Dallas he shouldn't be fired, but he needs
30:04
Speaker 3: to take a look in the mirror because something he's
30:06
Speaker 3: doing in the tournament does not work. The defense was
30:09
Speaker 3: horrible all year and it was exposed again in this game.
30:13
Speaker 3: It wasn't It wasn't bad defense when they were able
30:15
Speaker 3: to chase Johnston off of the line in the first half. Yeah,
30:19
Speaker 3: but unable to you know, keep him away from the
30:22
Speaker 3: basketball and the Nyam lane.
30:23
Speaker 7: That's the defense when they won an ann Arbor, when
30:26
Speaker 7: they were on Champagne, Yeah, Maggie.
30:29
Speaker 2: But the Devens was pretty good then.
30:31
Speaker 3: They had amazing wins this year. That's what they did,
30:33
Speaker 3: and that's it hurt better and better and better, and
30:35
Speaker 3: that's what hurts you. They were poison a big run.
30:37
Speaker 3: That's why I don't think, be honest with even though
30:38
Speaker 3: it's twelve five, many people saw this coming and we didn't.
30:42
Speaker 3: We talked about it. We just didn't think an upset
30:44
Speaker 3: was in the cards here. I don't think many prognosticators
30:46
Speaker 3: thought that. That's why so many people were on Twitter
30:48
Speaker 3: tell me, oh, well, you can see this coming. This
30:51
Speaker 3: isn't surprising at all. I'm like, really, I don't hear
30:53
Speaker 3: anyone saying that before this game started. Maybe it's just
30:55
Speaker 3: the way to cope with the loss, but it is
30:57
Speaker 3: what it is. Red Hot Tim Knot had one, Yeah,
30:59
Speaker 3: I don't know this is fair. We need Scooby Doo
31:01
Speaker 3: to pull Greg Guard's mask off in the tournament, only
31:03
Speaker 3: to reveal it's actually Craig Council.
31:05
Speaker 8: I'm out, ooh, I thought you were I thought you
31:08
Speaker 8: were going to read the one from Red Hot Tim
31:10
Speaker 8: not who said any airlines have a Bogo deal going
31:14
Speaker 8: on right now? Just thinking we can send Guard antk
31:17
Speaker 8: out on the same flight. What's the deal, Marquette crap
31:20
Speaker 8: team great coach, Badger's great team, trash coach. How about
31:24
Speaker 8: we just swap coaches? Just wanted to get Arman fired up.
31:26
Speaker 8: But the other part is I don't know that we
31:29
Speaker 8: is Shaka Smart for sure a great coach?
31:31
Speaker 2: Real, Like, I'm not trying to make this out. I'm
31:33
Speaker 2: not making this this but like again, he went.
31:35
Speaker 8: To a final four, so that punched his ticket for life.
31:39
Speaker 8: So now he's got the G word on him. Drew
31:41
Speaker 8: like like, that's the toughest part about this. Where you
31:45
Speaker 8: ask anybody in Austin, Texas if Shaka Smart's a great coach,
31:48
Speaker 8: they don't have that opinion. You will get laughed out
31:51
Speaker 8: of that place. So it's it's all about the prism
31:53
Speaker 8: that you're looking at it through. But this one, it's
31:56
Speaker 8: gonna be a tough lens to be looking at it
31:58
Speaker 8: through for Guard and mostly why for the same And
32:00
Speaker 8: we're talking about this right now. March tournament success or
32:03
Speaker 8: lack thereof. I mean, I think Shock when he was
32:05
Speaker 8: down there, lost multiple, like multiple tournament games by a
32:08
Speaker 8: point or two.
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Speaker 3: Didn't get it done. They lost to Ableien Christian when
32:12
Speaker 3: they were like I'm gonna say Austin or Abens and
32:15
Speaker 3: that's followed him too. So again we do this based
32:18
Speaker 3: on these results. I mean, I would say both are
32:20
Speaker 3: really good coaches, and they've proven that with their consistency
32:23
Speaker 3: of success with teams. But unless you kind of fulfill that,
32:27
Speaker 3: you know, fulfill that contract in March for a lot
32:30
Speaker 3: of fan bases, it's just not there. It's maybe unfair,
32:33
Speaker 3: but it's understandable when that's what we judge teams on
32:35
Speaker 3: in their legacy ultimately, and this is just another another
32:39
Speaker 3: example of that. So I would say neither of them
32:41
Speaker 3: are trash coaches, and I would say one team is
32:44
Speaker 3: clearly much better than the other one this year, but
32:47
Speaker 3: unfortunately they're both now watching three one nine, and it
32:51
Speaker 3: says nothing like waking up being dead last year, work
32:53
Speaker 3: p up for day one. Well, don't tough spot to be.
32:55
Speaker 3: It's a long way to go in that one, all right,
32:57
Speaker 3: said this a long way to go in that one.
32:59
Speaker 3: Mike and Adell's he shouldn't be fired. Speaking of guard,
33:01
Speaker 3: but he needs to take a look in the mirror
33:03
Speaker 3: because something he's doing for tournament.
33:05
Speaker 2: Time does not work. The defensive different hotels. I like
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Speaker 2: that the travel secretary is that what that helped through?
33:12
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
33:13
Speaker 3: And to his point, do they need to focus more
33:16
Speaker 3: on making it a defensive game or defensive team?
33:18
Speaker 2: Is that would those type of wholesale changes.
33:21
Speaker 7: When they play the scoring games, people people complain, complain,
33:24
Speaker 7: open it up, shoot more threes. So what's more fluky
33:27
Speaker 7: that the Badgers lost the game in which they scored
33:29
Speaker 7: over eighty which they hadn't done. Or the kid won
33:31
Speaker 7: the game on a layup and it was his first
33:32
Speaker 7: two point basket. That that, to me is people are
33:34
Speaker 7: making a lot of that.
33:35
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, that's the that one is that one
33:39
Speaker 8: is upsetting Drew when it's like he is gonna be
33:43
Speaker 8: the cat that breaks out in the back end Like
33:45
Speaker 8: that to me is more of oh wow, okay, we
33:48
Speaker 8: we let the fifth string undrafted rookie catch the wide
33:51
Speaker 8: open touchdown in the corner. That wouldn't have happened. That
33:55
Speaker 8: wouldn't have happened to the Green Bay Packers. Bob and
33:58
Speaker 8: bear A Boo said, more hoarding men. I have stated
34:02
Speaker 8: over and over again, this is why I don't trust
34:04
Speaker 8: the Badgers losing the first round again.
34:06
Speaker 3: I drank the kool aid this year, hoping I was wrong.
34:09
Speaker 3: I had them going to the Sweet sixteen on multiple
34:11
Speaker 3: brackets always next year, can't the state of Wisconsin catch
34:14
Speaker 3: a break with our sports teams?
34:15
Speaker 8: Go women's hockey? All right, there we go rally around
34:19
Speaker 8: Mark Johnson's crew. Come on, now, let's go.
34:21
Speaker 2: We need one. We need one.
34:22
Speaker 3: I did say that when I was when you were
34:24
Speaker 3: mentioning in the Wisconsin Athletic Department. If you've made it
34:26
Speaker 3: like a big old neighborhood, right in a big cul
34:29
Speaker 3: de sack, right there at the end is usually where
34:31
Speaker 3: the biggest houses are. Greg Guards is one of the
34:33
Speaker 3: best in the neighborhood, out all the other programs, is
34:37
Speaker 3: one of the best ones. Now, Kelly Sheffield, Mark Johnson,
34:39
Speaker 3: there in that golden sack, you want to get to
34:42
Speaker 3: that cul de sac. That's the cul de sac that
34:45
Speaker 3: everybody wants to be in in the neighborhood. But it's
34:47
Speaker 3: not a bad looking shack, the one that the men's
34:50
Speaker 3: basketball team is living. Remember, those nicest houses are the
34:52
Speaker 3: ones paying the most taxes and supporting so correct.
34:55
Speaker 7: So where do we go from here? Do we adopt
34:57
Speaker 7: a team to root for? Are we rooting for Nebraska?
35:00
Speaker 7: Hell no, I'm not root for Ohio State. There for
35:05
Speaker 7: Michigan definitely Purdue. Is that a palatable Big Ten team?
35:09
Speaker 7: Or do you just not I can cheer for Purdue
35:11
Speaker 7: or do I mean I have to? But do My
35:13
Speaker 7: question was this too, and we'll get into it. Do
35:15
Speaker 7: you root for Arkansas to beat high Point or the opposite?
35:17
Speaker 7: Does it absolve you if high Point makes a run here?
35:20
Speaker 7: And so I'm cheering for high Point because of my
35:23
Speaker 7: Instagram mentions.
35:24
Speaker 2: Oh I want to see some of these. I forgot
35:25
Speaker 2: about the Yeah, I want I want I want high Point.
35:28
Speaker 3: I want high Point because I was getting pig sued yesterday.
35:31
Speaker 3: They on you again yesterday after that one, and they
35:33
Speaker 3: were they were on us pretty quickly. They were they
35:35
Speaker 3: were they were on us pretty quickly.
35:36
Speaker 8: George before we take quick break, Fireguard hire Otzelburger. Okay, sure,
35:42
Speaker 8: why is t J not left?
35:44
Speaker 2: Yeah?
35:45
Speaker 3: I mean like like at some point you're not just
35:49
Speaker 3: gonna go and hire somebody else's why would he want
35:51
Speaker 3: to leave?
35:52
Speaker 2: Right? That's kind what I've been talking about.
35:54
Speaker 8: We think they can't just always say, well, I'm gonna
35:56
Speaker 8: go grab that guy because house spring dang good out
35:58
Speaker 8: there in names, it's pretty good spot to be in
36:01
Speaker 8: right now.
36:01
Speaker 2: Now. Maybe he's losing j R. Blount one of his
36:04
Speaker 2: lead assistants.
36:05
Speaker 3: They've turned some things around, But I don't necessarily know
36:08
Speaker 3: that you're because Drew all you do instantly when you
36:11
Speaker 3: come in as the high priced free agent, as a player,
36:14
Speaker 3: or as a coach, as the poached and already quote
36:18
Speaker 3: unquote made man, come in with.
36:20
Speaker 2: A lot different expectations.
36:22
Speaker 3: If you've just moved off Greg Guard for the eight
36:24
Speaker 3: years he had, not a whole lot of coaches can
36:26
Speaker 3: be ready to jump at that opportunity and leave a
36:29
Speaker 3: great spot A true, very true.
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Speaker 7: Eight seven, seven, seven, nine four one ninety seven three
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Speaker 7: The Friday Edition Post Badger's Edition. Badgers have done tournament
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Speaker 7: rolls on It's the Huddle Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin and
36:44
Speaker 7: Drew billyon arm and bringing it to you in the
36:45
Speaker 7: Huddle Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin the morning after Day one
36:48
Speaker 7: of the NCAA Tournament. Still one of the great events,
36:52
Speaker 7: the one of the last water cooler events we have
36:56
Speaker 7: left in the culture.
36:58
Speaker 3: Oh that's fair, that's fair. It definitely people out.
37:01
Speaker 7: We had a little bit of a water cooler moment
37:03
Speaker 7: with the World Baseball Classic. A lot of people people
37:06
Speaker 7: watched it where that was interest. But this is like,
37:09
Speaker 7: this is one of the this is huge.
37:11
Speaker 3: This is better because Drew not everyone's trying to fix
37:14
Speaker 3: it the entire time when it doesn't need fixing, right, Like,
37:16
Speaker 3: even though there's certain people that are like.
37:18
Speaker 2: Well, you know there's seventy eight or ninety six teams or.
37:21
Speaker 7: Whatever question we had about should they expand, I'm like, absolutely,
37:24
Speaker 7: keep it where it is, where it is. I didn't
37:26
Speaker 7: like the play ins. I think it should have been
37:28
Speaker 7: sixty four instead of sixty eight, But that's me.
37:30
Speaker 2: I love I love John Blackwell.
37:31
Speaker 3: I did hear his three game series thought in the
37:35
Speaker 3: sixteen in the final four, like it listen down for
37:39
Speaker 3: it not gonna happen. But the build to it is
37:44
Speaker 3: different because it unanimously drew and I was able to
37:48
Speaker 3: see this yesterday. Everybody has themselves a good time watching
37:53
Speaker 3: the games, whether you watch five minutes of college basketball
37:56
Speaker 3: throughout the year or five hundred hours of college basketball
38:01
Speaker 3: throughout the year.
38:01
Speaker 2: It's easy to consume in that sense, you know, easy
38:04
Speaker 2: to consume, easy to enjoy.
38:06
Speaker 8: And what I do forget from watching probably more NBA
38:11
Speaker 8: than I definitely more NBA than I do college hoops. Man,
38:15
Speaker 8: you go through these stretches where Mike, you can't buy
38:17
Speaker 8: a bucket, and that becomes a little bit more intense
38:21
Speaker 8: than when you're going down each and every time down
38:23
Speaker 8: the floor drew and every one footed floater from five
38:27
Speaker 8: away on the baseline, I'm like, oh, that's going down
38:29
Speaker 8: because I'm used to watching it in the NBA. Kind
38:31
Speaker 8: of happened, But they were fighting for their lives yesterday,
38:34
Speaker 8: and there was a dramatic stretch through every single one
38:36
Speaker 8: of it where you could tell people at the Potawatomi
38:39
Speaker 8: Sportsbook were gripping those brackets in those tickets. Oh, big time,
38:43
Speaker 8: big time, Big shout out to the the group that
38:46
Speaker 8: had the entire mezzanine rented out yesterday.
38:48
Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome. Way, that's the best spot.
38:51
Speaker 8: And I've been waiting properly and first, well it was
38:54
Speaker 8: being properly yesterday. What I'm saying, and you think, oh,
38:58
Speaker 8: somebody rented out the mezzanine, probably a bunch of suits,
39:02
Speaker 8: no corporate guys right now, roofing, Oh let's go. A
39:07
Speaker 8: bunch of a huge group of contractors and subcontractors, all
39:11
Speaker 8: that worked together a lot that I also met that
39:14
Speaker 8: I was. I wanted to talk to talk about my guys,
39:17
Speaker 8: but they said, our bosses don't like that we hang out.
39:20
Speaker 8: Our bosses aren't big fans. That were best friends. So
39:23
Speaker 8: good competitors, good healthy competitions. I see, I say, elite camaraderie.
39:27
Speaker 8: Yesterday at the sportsbook there had to have been one
39:30
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty of them up in that upstairs.
39:33
Speaker 2: Drew give it it.
39:36
Speaker 3: I went over.
39:37
Speaker 8: I'm like, so you guys just get this each for
39:39
Speaker 8: for the first day and no one's working, goes, Do
39:42
Speaker 8: I look like I got a vest?
39:43
Speaker 3: None? That is my favorite answer I have ever heard.
39:46
Speaker 3: So everybody was having them no quarters, zips and sports
39:49
Speaker 3: codes and best That's why I like, you know, the
39:52
Speaker 3: blue collar guys. You know the only the only quarters
39:54
Speaker 3: that we had Arman, Yes had the company logo on it.
39:58
Speaker 2: I knew it was free. Yeah, that's fine, which is
40:00
Speaker 2: my kind of peep. Now we could should we make those.
40:02
Speaker 3: Guys our current electric heroes of the day, because that
40:04
Speaker 3: is a different business, right They weren't electricians?
40:06
Speaker 2: Or were they? I think it was all over the place.
40:09
Speaker 2: I think it was all over the place.
40:10
Speaker 3: But I like your idea. Here, come on, now, what
40:12
Speaker 3: do we got here for the current electric superhero of
40:14
Speaker 3: the day.
40:14
Speaker 2: We do have one.
40:15
Speaker 3: It really warmed by Cockles as a member of this
40:18
Speaker 3: industry and a former media student media guy. Obviously it
40:22
Speaker 3: was after being VCU upset UNC. Now we have another
40:25
Speaker 3: great postgame presser to get to Hubert Davis, but this
40:28
Speaker 3: is not the one. It's Phil Martelly junior, the head coach.
40:31
Speaker 2: Now you remember his dad.
40:32
Speaker 3: Of course, he made a great point to shout out
40:34
Speaker 3: some special people in the post question Right here, Benricosh,
40:39
Speaker 3: WVCW sports coach, walk us through the last.
40:42
Speaker 4: Sold No, I am going to shout you guys down watch.
40:44
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of professional media here. Our
40:46
Speaker 4: student media the best in the country. They are unreal, unreal, unreal.
40:51
Speaker 4: Three of these guys drove in a snowstorm. I'm not
40:53
Speaker 4: sure why they did it, but to Davidson to cover
40:55
Speaker 4: to Davidson that came out to Saint Louis.
40:57
Speaker 2: They've been everywhere along the way.
41:00
Speaker 4: They did miss a game for one of them, missed
41:02
Speaker 4: two of the missing game for Valentine's Day, but we
41:04
Speaker 4: won't talk about that. I understand young love is young love.
41:07
Speaker 4: But but this crew right here, like I told him
41:11
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, and I tell them again, cannot thank you
41:13
Speaker 4: guys enough. You are you are what this is about
41:16
Speaker 4: right there, and watch well I said it in Pittsburgh.
41:20
Speaker 4: The rest of these are getting paid not enough. They
41:21
Speaker 4: don't get paid enough, but they are getting paid.
41:23
Speaker 2: To be here.
41:24
Speaker 4: They're not paid to be here, and they show up
41:26
Speaker 4: every single day, every single game. And I can't thank
41:28
Speaker 4: you guys.
41:29
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, No, I appreciate that. Those words truly
41:31
Speaker 2: mean a lot. Walk us through the last I love
41:33
Speaker 2: that because I love the uh. You know, it means
41:36
Speaker 2: a lot when you're doing student media.
41:37
Speaker 3: To have the biggest figure at your school the coach
41:40
Speaker 3: really show the support like that, and it encourages you
41:43
Speaker 3: in a tough business. Sometimes that's getting tougher obviously, So
41:46
Speaker 3: that was pretty awesome that he was able to do
41:48
Speaker 3: that shout them out, and it really meant a lot
41:50
Speaker 3: those kids, I'm sure and in true he's gonna be
41:52
Speaker 3: a great media guy. One day fashion he was about
41:55
Speaker 3: to start his walk me through question, you know, walk
41:57
Speaker 3: me through talk about So that was cool of him
42:01
Speaker 3: to do that. Phil Martelly Junior, I'm sure that meant
42:04
Speaker 3: the world of those kids. I know what it meant
42:05
Speaker 3: a lot to us when we were doing the student media.
42:08
Speaker 3: I was you know when I was doing it. You know,
42:10
Speaker 3: that's the type of thing. Wow, to be recognized like
42:12
Speaker 3: that is a fun, fun, cool feeling.
42:14
Speaker 8: So well, and I loved Drew the interview that they
42:18
Speaker 8: did with Tracy Wolfson after everybody's trying to be the
42:21
Speaker 8: Oklahoma City Thunder. Now, yeah, in those postgame interviews, everyone's
42:25
Speaker 8: trying to be the thunder. Well, Tracy Wolson had to
42:28
Speaker 8: play along because they were throwing every towel they had
42:30
Speaker 8: on that bench over Martelli her and the other kids
42:33
Speaker 8: that were getting interviewed.
42:34
Speaker 3: And he turns around at one point.
42:36
Speaker 2: Stop putting stuff on my head. All right, I'm done
42:39
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42:42
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Speaker 7: We are Our shooting shirts are off today. We're still
43:10
Speaker 7: sifting through the Badger's loss. Has it has a diminished
43:13
Speaker 7: your enjoyment of the tournament? And look looking forward to it.
43:17
Speaker 7: We'll discuss as we move forore. Oh yeah, and the
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