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S4 37. Vickjoy Anderson – Sleep Paralysis & The Anointed Soldiers · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello, folks, this is Princess, you are listening to the
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  millennial Mustard Seed, pod casts.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. I stopped wearing a very tough
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  spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an
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  end-around between this whole corrupt informational system
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
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  himself from the dead. And yet, we're not going to
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  believe that anything else exists in the spirit realm, even
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  though his word tells us that they do, Their bodies weren't
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  permitted to go to sleep, like humans, do.
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  And there were permitted to go to heaven.
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  So they wander the Earth, you know, I've seen the eyes turned
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  black to tongues being spoken. These Giants were love way up
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  with all the upgrades. The young man was high up in the
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  trees, the way for one of these, twelve Footers to come walking
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  down the back and they would jump on kill Dragon back.
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  Then people start to get weapons, I start to get armor,
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  they start to build cities, they social fortify their cities.
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  Now, God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle this war that we are at, is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities in these rulers
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  in, these are cons in high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible.
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  Use fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control because
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  we have to take every thought captive and resist.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a Justice case against
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  the kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the show.
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  Here we are season 4, episode 1, it's been quite a journey.
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  I hope you guys liked that new introduction.
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  It's a little bit long, but the idea is I may end up Cutting it
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  in half and alternating between that really awesome new
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  introduction. All the audio is literally from
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  the last three seasons, it's just highlights and clips that I
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  thought were important. And that really do lay out the
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  premises of the show. I have an exciting episode for
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  you guys. Vicki, Joy Anderson is here and
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  we talk about sleep paralysis. She wrote a book on it.
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  She's dealt with sleep paralysis or whole entire life.
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  And literally the conversation morphs into this amazing
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  breakdown of how were viewing things, how I'm just
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  understanding and growing as I go.
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  And we kind of just shoot back and forth and some of the
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  realest topics. I don't think this sleep
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  paralysis has been broken down this way or talked about the way
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  that it is here with us on this episode and I'm excited.
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  You guys are here, but I'm not going to waste any more time.
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  You guys ready for this episode? I'm Welcome back to the show
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  everybody. I have an excellent episode in
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  store for you tonight. Vicki Joy.
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  It is a honor to have you here on the show.
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  Thank you so much for being here.
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  Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
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  This will be fun. Yeah, this is gonna be great.
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  You're the expert in a topic. Sleep paralysis and it goes
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  under the radar. Nobody like a church will talk
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  about this. But yet I know people suffer
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  from this all the time, and this has been going on a long time.
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  How long have you been looking into the topic is sleep?
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  Paralysis Vicki? Well, I've had on the job
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  training since I was about 3 years old, nobody wants to sleep
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  paralysis, right? So I was an unwitting, an
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  unwilling volunteer, but I didn't really hear that.
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  The, the phrase sleep paralysis until I was in my early 30s and
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  I tell you I was shocked because up, to this point, I thought I
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  was the only person in the world who had this experience because
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  like you said, nobody talks about it, especially, you know,
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  back in the 70s and 80s, right? Then, you can land yourself in a
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  psych ward on heavy psychotropic medication.
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  If you did talk to people about it, but I was listening to an
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  apology. This podcast back in my early
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  30s and I was listening to it as I was falling asleep.
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  And so when I woke up kind of in the middle of the night and it
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  was still going and it was kind of creepy because, you know,
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  when you wake up in the middle of the night and you're groggy
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  and you're kind of half asleep, and I had kind of didn't really
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  realize that my podcast was still playing.
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  And so I was just hearing this guy.
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  Verbatim explaining my exact sleep paralysis experiences and
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  I thought, oh my gosh, I'm having a nightmare.
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  Like they're taunting me this because like, who in the world
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  would ever know that this was happening?
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  And and then they said, another one of the hosts said, well,
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  yeah, that they call that sleep paralysis and chills just ran
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  all the way up and down my spine.
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  I mean, I just went cold and so it was this really
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  revolutionary. Moment in my life because it was
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  somewhat off-putting and frightening.
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  But on the other hand, then I was so shocked and relieved to
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  know that this wasn't like, just me.
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  Yeah. And now that was the real early
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  days. Like I think you know, you had
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  CompuServe in a couple like there was no Google.
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  I mean the the internet was out there but it was really hard to
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  find stuff and it was just message boards.
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  So I the next day I kind of was just Reading message boards and
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  hundreds of people, describing this experience and it blew my
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  mind. That's why I've always had like
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  some, like, strange dreams in, a lot has gone on in my personal
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  life, but it wasn't until real real recently that I experienced
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  sleep paralysis and I didn't even know, like, like you were
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  saying like we hear these terms today and it's like, we don't
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  always know exactly what it means anymore.
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  Who knows with language. Chuck miss, you should say it's
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  hermeneutical hygiene, right? Being very precise and being
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  tight and clean in the way that we deliver information.
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  If we're serious about what we're doing.
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  But we're I come out of a culture where it's just like you
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  really have no idea what the candidates are, the local slang
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  is anymore. When you are talking with
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  someone experienced her of this particular attack and you can
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  feel it in their voice, you just know that something terrifying
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  happened to them Amiga slap whatever.
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  Alone if you want. But I mean, for me at least
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  Vicki, like, I, I'm an empath and in a way where I really try
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  to slow down and like care, like, listen and be like, hey
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  like, what's going in your life? What are you going through?
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  Because we all have a story, right?
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  But, sleep, paralysis is one of those things that, so widespread
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  and when, when we say sleep paralysis from my understanding,
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  I mean, obviously, we're going to have you go into all this,
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  but there's a couple different like levels of sleep.
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  I don't know the language. Good for this but there's like
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  deep sleep or like REM sleep and supposedly like your body like
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  you know, relax is itself so that you don't harm yourself
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  when you're sleeping, right? So it's a natural thing.
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  But there's like this weird little gray area in between
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  where people get trapped and then they're kind of tormented
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  there and that and I'm like, okay that's super creepy.
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  And I've now I really feel bad for people that are experiencing
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  this because What happened with me recently?
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  Vicky. Yeah, I could tell for I don't
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  think it was longer than 10 seconds and I normally wouldn't
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  go this far and share like personal stuff like this on the
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  podcast. But I've really been feeling
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  like God is really going to make some power moves for the the
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  chosen ones, the body body of Christ, not the building people
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  that are like at the button-down Zone, but the people that are in
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  the gutters that are calling out, his name, fighting the
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  battle. So as I feel making myself a
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  little bit more vulnerable, I believe this come with more
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  protection and just more anointing from God.
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  But I'll share this one experience here.
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  I wake up and it must have been 132 in the morning.
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  And as soon as I don't even know, as soon as I wake up or
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  whatever like I acknowledge that my eyes are open and I'm
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  watching what's going on around me in my room.
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  There's a large creature in the right hand corner and I can't
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  really see an outline per se or anything.
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  I just and I don't even remember what color of the eyes were, but
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  their thighs were just slits and they were different.
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  He was blacker than black and he was so dark, it was like I don't
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  even explain it. And I went to throw my arm up
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  and be like in the name Christ you get out of here now and I
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  couldn't lift my arm. No, this isn't how this works
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  and I literally remember in this, this 10-second experience.
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  I had more recent than not a little bit before Halloween
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  here. And I said, I'll just say it
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  silently in my head and you'll listen and I said in the Name of
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  Christ you get out of here, and as soon as that happened, I was
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  able to make a fist. My fingers bent and I was like,
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  I like, yes. Yes, Jesus, right?
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  And I went lifted my arm up and it's weird because it felt like
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  like up in the air, like it's so weird.
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  I don't know if I woke up, then if I was actually asleep.
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  I don't know how this stuff works but it was like Like a
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  presents left, but it like I had, you know, I'm sitting up
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  little droplets of sweat coming down my head and I look over to
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  my wife and I grabbed her. And I'm like, honey.
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  So then I get up and start walking around my house and you
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  know, whatever I'm not going to keep rumbling on, but that, that
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  bothered me because not that I could ever remember, I've dealt
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  with sleep paralysis, I don't know if they're able to like,
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  Veil memories or dreams or what I'm so happy that you're here
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  because here I am at the end of the road on this.
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  Yeah, it's interesting that you say, I wonder if they're able to
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  Avail the memories and things because Jim wilhelmsen, who
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  wrote the book beyond science fiction?
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  I think it's called something to that effect and he talks more
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  about the UFO Abduction phenomenon, but he does give a
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  few kind of hat tips to sleep paralysis in the book as well,
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  but he's the first one I ever heard Meuse.
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  That like a UFO Abduction. There may also be missing time
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  and missing memories with the sleep paralysis episodes.
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  And when I first heard this, I sort of had willful cognitive
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  dissonance. I didn't really want to
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  contemplate that possibility because I already kind of knew.
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  I thought, what I was dealing with because you these events
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  are so traumatic that you have a crystal clear memory.
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  Of them, unlike night terrors. And unlike alien abductions,
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  sleep paralysis. Experiencers typically have a
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  very Vivid recall of what has happened to them and they can
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  explain in great detail. Like you just did what they saw.
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  What they felt kind of, all five senses are engaged and they kind
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  of big explain smells. They explain everything.
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  So this concept that there could actually be portions of this
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  memory or this episode that you don't remember opens up a whole
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  nother host of potential possibilities as to what could
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  be going on. You don't even have a memory of
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  and where this gets scary where this gets scary is you you lose
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  out on a couple of the features of saving UFO phenomenon.
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  A lot of people who have the UFO experience, they have no
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  immediate recall of what happened.
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  Now that stuff can be, you know, And later under deep hypnosis,
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  which is a Christian. I would never recommend, but
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  memories can come back slowly and dreams.
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  It's kind of like the same thing that you know, mind-controlled
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  or MKUltra sufferers will talk about about 25. 30 years old
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  memories will start coming back. Oh wow.
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  But what they, what they do know is I know something happened
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  because I have this this missing time.
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  And the clever albeit diabolical aspect of sleep paralysis.
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  If it is the same type of thing is we wake up.
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  You know, alarm goes off at 6:00 7:00.
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  Let's say we've been asleep, five to eight hours, depending
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  on, you know, are sleeping schedule.
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  No one's going to wake up at 6:00. 7:00 8:00 in the morning.
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  Go, oh my gosh, I have missing time because we expect to lose
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  So to speak that time while we're asleep.
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  And so if something did happen of a supernatural or more
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  accurately, a preternatural, we aren't going to necessarily
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  know, if our memory has been wiped and we're not looking out
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  for missing time then how will we know?
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  And the the scary fact of the matter Rod is I do believe in
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  many cases, there are sleep paralysis, sufferers Who have
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  episodes that they remember, and they have episodes that they do
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  not remember. Furthermore, I believe that
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  there are people out there who say, I have never experienced
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  sleep paralysis who may have many times and they're not
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  recalling it. And so what, what gets
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  potentially frightening in this situation is and I hear this all
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  the time in the Christian church.
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  Why do we have so many people? Who are I'm?
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  Talking about legitimate Believers.
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  I'm not talking about the Pew warmers and the Hypocrites.
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  I'm talking about people who genuinely love the lord.
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  They're seeking to obey him, they're pursuing Holiness.
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  They're living a pure Godly life and yet there's no Victory.
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  There's depression, there's anxiety, there's guilt, there's
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  shame. There's unresolved and unhealed
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  wounds and no matter how The books, they read, or how many
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  little devotionals they buy or how much they pray, or all of
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  the things that were supposed to do to bring us Victory?
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  Why do so many people in the church?
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  May not get over that hurdle and move past that mile marker where
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  they have Victory and joy and contentment in all these things
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  that Christ purchased for us and one for us across.
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  And I think that there are many answers to that, but under the
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  Ella of the topic that we're talking about, I am going to ask
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  people in their own times of prayer to seek through prayer,
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  and to beseech, the spirit to reveal to them.
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  If there were any astral covenants made without their
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  knowledge that need to be undone because this is where a lot of
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  people Rod. They stop me.
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  This is where the Christians get triggered and they say They
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  can't. That's a violation of our free
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  will. They can't?
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  That's not fair. They can't trick us.
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  And I understand that point of view, but if you go all the way
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  back to Genesis, the very first example of, of a human being
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  making an alliance with the serpent was done through
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  trickery, they were, they were tricked.
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  She was seduced. And so I don't think that it's
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  any different now and was it a violation of her free will.
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  She got tricked, but God didn't come down and say, okay, I'm
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  going to hit the reset button because you were tricked and
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  that doesn't count. They were held accountable for
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  that. And so what I'll end on this and
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  then we can move on. But what, what I have had to
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  work through in my own life and I do address this in my book,
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  quite a bit in chapter 4. What we have to address is, it's
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  not just enough to say Jesus in the name of Jesus, get out, you
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  know, calling on the name of Jesus, will get the entity out
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  of your bedroom in that moment, but more has to be done to make
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  sure, whatever open door that entity walked through has to be
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  closed. So you have to do your due
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  diligence to make sure whatever door was open that they brazenly
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  walked through to access me. Was that door open and what door
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  is it? And this is where we need to
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  pray. And really ask for Supernatural,
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  wisdom and discernment in what opened this door and what can I
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  do? What do I need to do?
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  To close these doors? Because I'm telling you from
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  experience, and from the hundreds of people, I've talked
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  to, for every one that remembers a sleep paralysis experience,
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  there's people that don't remember.
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  And when they pray these prayers, To break these
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  covenants that they have made with, with these other entities.
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  Not only is it freed them not only has it.
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  Stopped the sleep paralysis, but those brick walls that they were
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  hitting in their faith where they could not get, they were
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  doing all the church, the going to church and reading the Bible
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  and doing the bible study lessons and leading the small
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  group, but they didn't have the joy.
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  They didn't have the affection. They didn't have the passion to
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  see his face and Heaven one day that emotional connection.
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  Ian wasn't there. Once these aberrant betrothal
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  covenants that have been made in the astral with these anti
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  bridegroom's were broken and they were able to, then 100%
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  legally, be married to the bridegroom and the bride groom
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  only that intimacy then was able to flourish.
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  You hit on so many important points there.
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  I mean, yeah. Eve's beguiled in the garden,
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  right? Like she's she's tricked.
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  There's something going on there and yeah.
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  Christians do start to cut out at that.
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  Oh no. We can't be deceived.
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  Know we all have free will pour. It's like we have free will to
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  call on the name of God. Like like we know when we're
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  kids, right? Like if you're going to steal or
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  do something bad like, you know, as bad, like nobody really has
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  to teach you that on the inside, its Screaming out, do not steal
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  that pedal bike or whatever you're thinking about doing, but
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  that concerts can be sheared over time like calloused, right?
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  And some people make a life out of crime then, but if you talk
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  to him and you've ever talked with like, you know, somebody
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  who has a reputation like that. They'll tell you, I knew it was
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  wrong when I was younger, but they're not just didn't care
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  anymore. And that's such a common thing
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  and I go I think our Free Will is to acknowledge like, God, you
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  are, who you say, you are, you're there and I can call on
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  your name, and then you're hitting on the, and most
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  Christians might not even want to come to that perspective,
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  Vicki where they're just willing to admit.
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  Hey, it's so much deeper, and weirder, and darker, and there's
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  so many different layers to this.
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  Onion, we are not even scratching the surface right now
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  on the reality of what's really going on.
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  We've been systematically desensitized by.
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  Encampments that were not willing to acknowledge exists.
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  So, therefore, if my Jesus is this big, but he's not big
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  enough to overcome, you know, intergalactical alien races or
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  whatever. I'm just saying like I'm not
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  it's not out of the question for me.
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  I'm not putting God in a box. That's the whole purpose of this
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  show in the journey is like I'm not going to put God in a box.
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  I know what the word says and the word.
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  There's a lot of smoking guns and alludes to a lot of
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  different things. I'm not a theologian.
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  I'm the guy next door and I got weird.
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  Questions and everybody has a different answer but when I pray
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  and talk with God about it, I feel peace that he's in control
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  and he's the power move. He is who he says he is and he's
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  way more wild than I could wrap my head around so I have to
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  almost be okay with being malleable to the extent of man.
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  If this church over here I say church I think people most
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  people say Church they think building Cena meme today.
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  I can't believe people say they don't want to go to church.
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  Because the Hypocrites and then it was like, some guy's face
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  making a funny face. And he said, underneath his, he
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  said, that's like, not wanting to go to the gym because people
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  are out of shape their the thought it was funny to like,
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  you know, the out I'm like, yeah, I'm a set like but then I
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  started thinking about it and I'm like, bro, people that come
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  into the church if they're really going to like become like
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  David. He was like, all right.
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  Now I'm going to go to the house of the Lord.
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  I'm going to worship right here. Just showing up just because it
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  was cool. And then cracking jokes about
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  people that weren't going because whatever like he was
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  like, nah, like I'm a soldier I'm coming in, I need to eat the
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  bread that's on the show table because me and the guys are
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  starving. We've been out here, exposing
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  the darkness. We've been out here rattling,
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  the cage. We've been out here, exposing
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  the enemy. We've been out here taking hits.
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  We've been out here getting bombs dropped on us and you guys
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  are sitting around here. Eating cupcakes, making me US.
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  Amen. I'm sorry I didn't even think I
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  would go, but I'm so involved in, like, emotionally what I'm
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  saying, I felt the Holy Spirit there because if this is the
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  last generation people need to hear this, maybe maybe I need to
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  take a better approach. May be new to like slow down.
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  Just be cool because I don't want to offend anybody who
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  listens to this. But I want people to know when,
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  when we come to the church, like who's got the gift of servitude,
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  because we might need you to wrap some wounds.
• 22:53
  The Bible says he who is spiritual?
• 22:56
  Come alongside and help your brother at the get, who's got
• 22:59
  the gift of healing because the prophecy, right?
• 23:01
  Like not despising those things on just letting them be what
• 23:04
  they are. And I feel like there's this
• 23:04
  cookie cutter mentality with Christianity, where people
• 23:07
  filter things through. And they joke really, elaborate
• 23:10
  lie really complex jokes about this isn't that?
• 23:12
  But they're not aware of the fact that like the battle the
• 23:16
  battles out here and when I'm out here in the gutter and
• 23:19
  somebody's long, sodomy crime with me and laughing with me,
• 23:22
  whatever I'm going through and they're going through like that
• 23:25
  is The church, bro. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:28
  Yeah. Well, and we've, we've gone from
• 23:32
  the biblical language which is extremely militaristic.
• 23:35
  We have language, like, Great Commission, which is it, which
• 23:39
  is a military term. And we have, you know, we lose
• 23:43
  it in the English but, you know, Yahweh several old, you know,
• 23:47
  it's the god of the captain of the armies, you know?
• 23:50
  And and there's a lot of metaphors in Scripture that are
• 23:55
  comparing Us to soldiers and we've kind of moved from the
• 24:02
  front lines of battle to the triage tent.
• 24:05
  Here, we are two thousand years later and we're still all using
• 24:08
  military terms, but we're all in the triage tent showing each
• 24:12
  other, our wounds and counseling each other.
• 24:15
  And and I'm not saying there's not a time and a place to
• 24:18
  minister to each other and encourage one another.
• 24:21
  But nobody really wants to heal in the triage tent and get Back
• 24:26
  on the battlefield, you know, we're all kind of stuck in the
• 24:28
  triage tent at this point. So I'm in agreement with what
• 24:32
  you're saying about the David and the showbread and and the
• 24:37
  warfare that's out there, we can stick our heads in the sand and
• 24:41
  say that we're in a new civilized era and there's no
• 24:44
  persecution and there's no Warfare but as well as Russ
• 24:47
  dizdar used to say, if you bury your head in the sand, you're
• 24:50
  just, you know, priming yourself to get kicked in the butt
• 24:53
  because your butts in the air. If your heads in the sand.
• 24:57
  Nikki, I think that that's why this is like so important.
• 25:01
  I was saying to La. I'm like man, this is a podcast.
• 25:05
  Ultimately, I'd never considered it to be in a Ministry.
• 25:08
  I was just I wanted to take this journey, I wanted to do
• 25:12
  something unique, by capturing the process of the journey,
• 25:15
  because I knew what God had told me in the secrecy of my heart
• 25:18
  that I can't divulge on, but I knew I didn't know how it was
• 25:22
  going to go down. So I was like, let's record the
• 25:25
  process and I'm just going to start asking all the questions
• 25:27
  that nobody will answer the sleep paralysis, right?
• 25:32
  The night mirrors. The deja vu like what do you
• 25:34
  name it? Whatever the millennial
• 25:36
  generation My Generation. We grow up and now we have these
• 25:39
  super computers, all the sudden and our pockets.
• 25:42
  Yeah. We're not like fighting to like
• 25:44
  dial-up. I'm ever uses like fight with
• 25:46
  my, you know, siblings that dial up but they're like stop piling
• 25:49
  up. I need to get on the phone,
• 25:50
  right? Little the cord stretch 10 feet
• 25:52
  across as they're like fighting for the List.
• 25:54
  Did, you know cup of juice? Like, it was so much different
• 25:58
  when I was a kid. Then what we see today, but when
• 26:01
  we were coming into adulthood, we have super computers in our
• 26:04
  pockets. Yeah, right.
• 26:06
  This is a peculiar time to be alive.
• 26:08
  Now, we're in 2023 and I'm looking around and I'm going all
• 26:14
  of these messages and signals all of this confusion and Chaos.
• 26:16
  It is going to knock on everybody's door, some point.
• 26:19
  So what Vicki? And I are saying, right now,
• 26:24
  Thank you. Aurora said, get your head out
• 26:26
  of the sand and if your heads in the sand, don't come crying to
• 26:29
  me if you get kicked in the butt.
• 26:31
  Right, you know, like but the whole purpose is like this
• 26:34
  pocket is just started to actually like become Other
• 26:40
  people's Journeys to other people that I can relate or oh,
• 26:44
  you know, they kind of were like, out of Crossroad or they
• 26:46
  were like, hey, that was some unanswered.
• 26:48
  Questions. I have five years ago in the
• 26:50
  same Journey, you're on. And I just started understand,
• 26:52
  you know what God, you're just so much bigger than us and we
• 26:56
  cannot be ashamed. Let the redeemed of the Lord
• 27:01
  say, so, right, like, if we're being redeemed and Sanctified by
• 27:04
  him, I don't know what the big deal is, we should be able to
• 27:07
  cover these topics. So Vicki you study for like what
• 27:10
  15 plus years about sleep paralysis and you're bringing a
• 27:14
  lot of wealth to this conversation for me and helping
• 27:17
  me to just really break a little bit more of the shell off myself
• 27:21
  of like, you know what? Yeah, we're going to slap on
• 27:24
  sleep paralysis on this title. So a bunch of people are out
• 27:27
  there. They're like, you know what
• 27:28
  clickbait? Yeah, go ahead.
• 27:29
  Go on it, and if they get mad at me, it's like, Well, why'd you
• 27:32
  click on it, then you seen sleep trousers.
• 27:35
  Like, don't be mad at me. Listen to the whole thing,
• 27:38
  right? That's what's going on with
• 27:42
  these these entities. How do you think you?
• 27:44
  So, you talked about like the UFO background a little bit or
• 27:48
  what? Oh, look.
• 27:50
  You do still have either? Yeah.
• 27:52
  Yep, I'm still here. Why don't you just show you one
• 27:55
  offline? This is I saw I saw that little
• 27:57
  pop-up thing too, but I am still here.
• 27:59
  Here. Okay.
• 28:01
  Well hopefully it's still recording.
• 28:03
  Both of us on my end and I'll just edit this little part out
• 28:05
  later. Okay, of course.
• 28:11
  Yeah, definitely, definitely understand that this is a This
• 28:16
  is pretty normal at this point, it's all good.
• 28:21
  You know what, Vicki at this point if the enemy is trying to
• 28:23
  steal the Airways and this isn't recorded, and I can't edit this
• 28:26
  out later, like let's just say, it's just me, talking, will go
• 28:30
  and come back again. Well, pray up a little bit more
• 28:33
  on and really punch the devil in the face with with this one, but
• 28:36
  tell me, so tell me what's going on in your opinion, like what is
• 28:40
  your research led to, and Do you think that there's different
• 28:44
  camps? Is it all one camp?
• 28:45
  But they're just like changing the mask and torturing people
• 28:49
  with paralysis or do you think this really is an abduction?
• 28:55
  Yeah, that's a great. That's a great question.
• 28:58
  And I might have had a different answer if you'd ask me even
• 29:00
  three years ago. But even just in my research
• 29:04
  since the book came out, I am really coming to the conclusion,
• 29:12
  maybe not every time, in every case you do nothing in the world
• 29:15
  really works 100% of the time, it's 100% always the same thing.
• 29:19
  But I know there's people that I had sleep paralysis once or
• 29:24
  twice when I was a teenager Ager and or I had it once after a
• 29:27
  divorce or a really stressful time, but I'm kind of talking
• 29:30
  about the people who have been harassed with this over the
• 29:33
  course of their whole life. I do think that it is an
• 29:37
  abduction scenario and it's a transformational process.
• 29:41
  I talked about that a lot in the book, kind of the theme of it,
• 29:44
  is this transformational process and kind of where I like to
• 29:51
  start. Just so, you know, a lot of
• 29:53
  Christians, they want the chapter and they The verse is
• 29:55
  specially, when you're talking about supernatural stuff, I do
• 30:00
  think that sleep paralysis is mentioned in scripture, but not
• 30:02
  much is said about it, it's obviously not fully unraveled
• 30:06
  for us, but we're, I like to take the bereans out there who,
• 30:11
  who are seeking chapter and verse in their testing every
• 30:13
  spirit is I like to take people to Ephesians 6:12 and then do a
• 30:17
  little bit of a deeper dive. And when we talk about these
• 30:22
  rulers and authorities depending on what Ian, you're reading
• 30:26
  archons, Fallen Angels, spiritual entities, of darkness,
• 30:32
  and evil. It seems to give us at least
• 30:35
  four categories, and I think there's more than four
• 30:38
  categories, and, but it's kind of giving this General overview
• 30:43
  that this these high places contain more than just, you
• 30:49
  know, what we would classically call a demon or a fallen angel
• 30:53
  and going back to what you What about Missler with the
• 30:57
  hermeneutical? Hygiene?
• 30:59
  I think a lot of churchgoers. Demon is sort of this catch-all.
• 31:05
  Anything, evil, anything strange, anything oppressive.
• 31:08
  Anything you're acting is a demon and a demon is a very
• 31:12
  specific thing. A fallen angel is a very
• 31:14
  specific thing. A ruler and argon.
• 31:17
  These are specifically different things and then when you get
• 31:21
  into the house for realm ascended masters, that's
• 31:24
  something completely different. Different, a spirit guide is
• 31:26
  something different. There's human beings crawling
• 31:28
  around up there. There's cultists and and things
• 31:31
  like that. And so we're I like to take
• 31:34
  people just so we're all kind of on the same page from the get-go
• 31:37
  is if you delve into the meaning of the high places because this
• 31:43
  is the location of these entities.
• 31:46
  And we know that these entities are our enemies.
• 31:49
  They're not our friends because it says, at the beginning of the
• 31:53
  verse that the Is not against flesh and blood.
• 31:56
  There we go with militaristic terms, again the battle.
• 31:59
  This war that we are at is not against each other.
• 32:02
  It's against these principalities in these rulers
• 32:05
  in, these are cons in the high places.
• 32:06
  So it gives us the location and the English translations, high
• 32:12
  places, Heavenly places. If you go to the Greek, it's Epi
• 32:15
  rainiest. And if you study Epi rainiest
• 32:19
  Beyond just the lexical form definition in a Greek
• 32:23
  dictionary, you You go into the contextual meaning of it in that
• 32:29
  verse and how it's placed and how its conjugated it takes on a
• 32:35
  meaning of the lower heavens of the earth.
• 32:41
  So it's not it's not the throne room of God, the the throne room
• 32:48
  where God dwells and where there's a throne and, and the
• 32:53
  seraphim and Posh maleme are there, and Jesus is at the right
• 32:57
  hand. That's not the place crawling
• 33:00
  with Spirit guides and ascended, masters, and people who hate us.
• 33:05
  And so, it's a differentiation of the heaven, the way, a
• 33:09
  Christian were defined heaven, but it's also not talking about
• 33:13
  the sky, you know, you look up and you see an airplane in the
• 33:16
  clouds, it is a dimensional plane where these evil things
• 33:23
  hang out. And where it gets tough to have
• 33:28
  discussions, like this Rod is that sleep, paralysis, affects
• 33:34
  everyone of every religion. It's not something that just
• 33:39
  happens to Christians, but it happens to a lot.
• 33:41
  Yeah, six, yeah, it happens to new agers, it happens to
• 33:46
  atheists, it happens to Buddhists Hindus Native America.
• 33:48
  It doesn't matter what your religion is or what your culture
• 33:50
  is it happens. And so what we have to
• 33:53
  understand, is we Have different words for this place and the
• 33:59
  words can be very triggering. So if you say heaven, you can
• 34:02
  potentially offend someone who's not a Christian, if you say
• 34:07
  astral plane, then you're going to trigger Christians because
• 34:10
  that's an evil place and don't talk about astral projection.
• 34:13
  And there's been media that I've been involved with Rod where
• 34:20
  I've been instructed beforehand that I can't use the word astral
• 34:24
  and All astral means is of or pertaining to the heavens, The
• 34:33
  Starry hosts. We know from Genesis 1 that
• 34:35
  these things were created by God, they are for seasons and
• 34:40
  for signs and for more Dean, there's nothing intrinsically in
• 34:46
  and of itself evil or new age, or a cultic about the starry
• 34:50
  hosts. Now, when you start bowing down
• 34:53
  and worshiping the starry, Or you start astral projecting into
• 34:57
  those Dimensions to to seek knowledge from these things.
• 35:02
  Well yeah, now you've got a problem but yeah, acknowledging
• 35:06
  that there is an existence of an astral plane is not endorsing it
• 35:12
  or saying you should go there. I'm so for, for just the sake of
• 35:17
  everyone being on the same page, whether you call it, the astral
• 35:20
  realm, or the astral plane, or the lower astral, or the second
• 35:23
  heaven, or or the upper Aeneas or the high places or the
• 35:28
  Heavenly places. Basically, what we're just
• 35:31
  trying to differentiate as this place is not earth.
• 35:35
  Hmm. And this place is not the throne
• 35:37
  room of almighty God. There is a place somewhere in
• 35:42
  the universe somewhere, dimensionally where the riffraff
• 35:46
  who are enemies of God and enemies of our soul, hang out,
• 35:52
  and they are looking for any opening.
• 35:55
  They can get to lure you or drag you up there for the purpose of
• 36:03
  transforming, your soul into the image and the doctrines of their
• 36:10
  Messiah. Not the Messiah of the
• 36:12
  scriptures. It just keeps building and
• 36:17
  built. Like I hope the audience is like
• 36:19
  seriously hanging with us all because this is a good one.
• 36:22
  Like I'm like, I'm sorry to grip the chair a little bit and I'm
• 36:26
  like, I'm like, okay, I'm like, deja vu fits in that category as
• 36:30
  like his Universal doesn't matter Pond religions.
• 36:32
  You have all these words, hivemind parallel universe,
• 36:36
  astral projection right, produce science.
• 36:38
  I mean, you name it, right? And then you have to SRA
• 36:41
  victims, you got people that have been abused by By a cult
• 36:45
  and dark followers of what? I'm not even going to name their
• 36:49
  names on here. It's just it's they don't have
• 36:52
  power. They have power with what they
• 36:55
  have power with, but they serve an inferior God.
• 36:59
  He's weaker whoever they're serving and getting orders from
• 37:03
  he is not like the Cod that I serve.
• 37:06
  Amen. And I wonder Is that why?
• 37:11
  Most I know I'm not a judge. I don't want people to get the
• 37:15
  wrong idea when I'm about to say this because it could be taken
• 37:19
  the wrong way, but there's a lot of people in church and it seems
• 37:23
  like certain people are targeted in church with with bearing
• 37:28
  through life, with all of these. all of these, like our Things.
• 37:36
  Coming against them. Everything goes wrong.
• 37:38
  Nothing really works out for them.
• 37:39
  They're dragging a chain and a ball and most people can't even
• 37:43
  see it. And that hardship, and
• 37:46
  deprivation is sometimes written on the sleeve of the shirt that
• 37:49
  they wear and they really truly want to be free.
• 37:54
  There really have been through the ringer most and like you
• 37:57
  were saying earlier Vicki if they try to talk about if they
• 38:00
  tried to actually give you a paragraph and describe to you
• 38:04
  what they may have dealt with. Recently.
• 38:07
  They're afraid to do that. If they did, you might want to
• 38:09
  put them in a padded room. Yeah.
• 38:12
  And it's like, okay, well right now, I mean, this is how it's
• 38:15
  been and it's still kinda is like that, but now I've been
• 38:19
  noticing, like, CEOs and like law enforcement.
• 38:22
  I mean, I've talked with people, I won't get name names, but I
• 38:26
  can't believe that 56 years ago. I was getting made fun of for
• 38:29
  these topics in the people that come to me and talk with me now
• 38:32
  and ask me questions. I'm just like man you need to
• 38:34
  get in the word and yes it is all real.
• 38:38
  Why are those people getting picked on in the church?
• 38:40
  Now, there's a could be a couple theories, right?
• 38:42
  Just the way, my mind is working here, Vicki.
• 38:45
  Maybe there's a large scoop of people in the church that are
• 38:50
  there there because deep down inside, they're looking, the
• 38:53
  trigger words, are where is this king of Mercy?
• 38:56
  Where's the king of Grace, right?
• 38:58
  But then, there's this like facade that, like this fake
• 39:01
  thing that's being projected out because of trauma and torments,
• 39:04
  or just confusion or just the culture.
• 39:07
  So they're kind of sitting there in like, right?
• 39:11
  Like the kind of stagnant right there.
• 39:13
  Just kind of like waiting for. I don't know, maybe the right
• 39:17
  time or their strength of their own Spirit to start to get
• 39:21
  refreshed, whether it be through the gospel, being spread the
• 39:24
  true gospel actually waking through that area or not.
• 39:28
  But then, you have other people that seem like, they're just
• 39:30
  waking up. So, I'm just like the movie, The
• 39:32
  Matrix, like, but some people have no idea what's going on at
• 39:35
  all. You got these other camps that
• 39:36
  are just like, Like, what are they talking about sitting there
• 39:39
  and churches? Just texting, you know, Amazon
• 39:41
  order on the way they you got a nice car.
• 39:43
  All their bills are paid. They got big plans to go travel,
• 39:46
  right? They have no idea what it's like
• 39:48
  to walk around limping and saying God help.
• 39:53
  I mean some of my prayers have just been caught he'll help.
• 40:02
  Is the Veil Just thinning to the point where the injured are
• 40:08
  being coming, more visible. I'm going to, I'm going to
• 40:11
  address this. I'm and I'm going to start
• 40:13
  somewhere where you might think that I'm changing the topic but
• 40:15
  I'm not I'm coming around to this.
• 40:17
  So to Job chapter 4, this is I think the most blatant example
• 40:23
  of sleep paralysis that we have in scripture and a lot of people
• 40:26
  get this wrong they just assume because it's in the Book of Job
• 40:30
  that part of jobs tour. I meant is that he was also
• 40:33
  having sleep paralysis. Like oh the poor guy, he's got
• 40:35
  all this going on and plus he can't even get a good night's
• 40:37
  sleep. They're coming out of that
• 40:38
  night. But what a lot of people don't
• 40:40
  understand is that this in this chapter it's not joke who's
• 40:44
  suffering the sleep paralysis. It is elif as one of his not so
• 40:50
  theologically, correct comforters and so Job, 14 13
• 40:54
  through 16 says amid disquieting thoughts from the visions of the
• 40:59
  night. When deep sleep falls on men,
• 41:02
  Dread Came Upon me and trembling and made all my bones.
• 41:06
  Shake, then a spirit passed by my face and the hair of my flesh
• 41:11
  bristled up. It's still it stood still, but I
• 41:14
  could not discern his appearance of form was before my eyes.
• 41:18
  There was silence, then I Heard a Voice then eliphaz goes on to
• 41:23
  explain the wisdom that came from this spiritual visitor and
• 41:30
  what he's basically doing. Doing is what a lot of people in
• 41:33
  the modern Church. Do when they give you advice,
• 41:37
  God told me this. I have a message for you from
• 41:41
  God. When you start a sentence, when
• 41:44
  you preface a sentence with what I'm about to say, comes from the
• 41:48
  mouth of God, that makes the sufferer incapable of arguing
• 41:53
  with you without coming off as being full of hubris.
• 41:57
  You're arguing with the words of God.
• 41:59
  And so what eliphaz is doing is the equivalent of Hey, a spirit
• 42:04
  from Heaven came down and visited me and gave me this
• 42:08
  advice for you. So in other words, you can't
• 42:10
  argue with me, I have the upper hand in this conversation
• 42:14
  because this came from the mouth of someone from the spirit realm
• 42:18
  and some Angel. And we know from the end of the
• 42:22
  book that elephants had to be, you know, job had to offer
• 42:29
  sacrifices on behalf of the foolish counsel that these He's
• 42:32
  friends gave what the friends were saying this is getting
• 42:35
  around to your question. About people, nowadays in the
• 42:37
  church who wear this on their sleeves.
• 42:40
  What what eliphaz and his two buddies were were trying to
• 42:45
  explain to job. Is your suffering is because you
• 42:49
  are a sinful man, you are unrighteous, you have
• 42:52
  unconfessed sin, so surely you deserve this somehow, you're
• 42:57
  you're getting just punishment for your.
• 42:59
  Unfaithfulness, you have open. And doors and this is your
• 43:04
  comeuppance. And unfortunately what happens
• 43:08
  when you strip the Church of everything Supernatural, if you
• 43:13
  take the supernatural out of the scriptures, you take it out of
• 43:17
  the vernacular, you take it out of the comfort zone of what
• 43:20
  pastors and parishioners are allowed to speak about.
• 43:24
  Then when someone does speak out about it, they are In the same
• 43:31
  situation as job in that the council they get from their
• 43:36
  friends is usually something to the effect of what did you do to
• 43:42
  open these doors? And then they start asking these
• 43:45
  probing questions. Like have you ever played with a
• 43:47
  Ouija board? Have you cheated on your spouse?
• 43:50
  Do you watch pornography, have you ever dabbled in Witchcraft
• 43:55
  and and they start asking all these questions and And I'm not
• 44:01
  saying that sin and unrepentant sin and dabbling with witchcraft
• 44:06
  and Disobedience, don't open spiritual doors, of course they
• 44:10
  do. But we have to go beyond that
• 44:13
  because there are people as you say who have been targeted from
• 44:18
  the womb from the birth from childhood.
• 44:22
  And one thing that I see somewhat consistently in the
• 44:27
  people, I talked to who have had sleep paralysis their whole life
• 44:30
  including myself. Is it started from the womb and
• 44:35
  many of them will talk about how they weren't supposed to live or
• 44:39
  they were born with some sort of thing, and they fought for their
• 44:42
  life in the ICU for the first month and not all of them are
• 44:45
  that dramatic. But many of them will talk about
• 44:50
  many many experiences throughout the course of their life, but
• 44:53
  you came very close to dying car accidents, you know, falling off
• 44:58
  of you know, Roofs and all this. And you know, it's interesting
• 45:03
  as I was, I was interviewing people to include case studies
• 45:07
  in my book. And in my book, there's not only
• 45:10
  does every chapter begin with a personal experience, from a
• 45:13
  different person, but there's an entire append is full of
• 45:16
  people's stories as well, but as I was interviewing people what I
• 45:20
  found without even having to ask as many of these people, as they
• 45:24
  were telling their stories would say.
• 45:25
  I almost died like seven times between when I was born in.
• 45:31
  Results like that. And so it got me thinking.
• 45:33
  And I'm like, well, I know that I know that I almost died at
• 45:37
  Birth because I was born with this severe birth defect and
• 45:40
  whatever but other than that, but I was curious.
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  And so, I started making a list and I've been doing this list
• 45:48
  now for maybe three or four years.
• 45:51
  And what I, if you would ask me like, hey, how many I almost
• 45:55
  died experiences? Do you have in your life?
• 45:56
  I'd say, like, oh, probably a couple of those surgeries I had
• 45:59
  were pretty serious, but that's all I wanted.
• 46:00
  Said but having four years to pray over it and contemplate it,
• 46:04
  I now have a list of over 18 times in my life, where I very,
• 46:09
  very seriously, could have died. And I'm not talking silly little
• 46:13
  things, I'm talking flying out of a Jeep on an exit at 45 miles
• 46:18
  an hour. In my uncle, grabbing me in
• 46:19
  midair and pulling me back into the Jeep.
• 46:21
  I'm talking about being surrounded by eight to ten, six
• 46:25
  foot tall, guys. All in black, that looked like
• 46:27
  ninjas when I was in Mongolia and a black market.
• 46:31
  Like an open market. I mean I'm talking serious stuff
• 46:35
  swimming pool around and things so so all that to say and I do
• 46:40
  talk about this in chapter 6 of my book.
• 46:43
  After you've examined yourself in the mirror, after you have
• 46:47
  had a hard look at doors that possibly, you could have opened
• 46:52
  after you've confessed sin after you've gotten on your knees
• 46:57
  before the Lord and you've repented of all the foolish
• 46:59
  things you did in your Youth and the things that you dabbled with
• 47:02
  and the doors that you opened. If it persists, then you go a
• 47:05
  level deeper and you start thinking, is there anyone in my
• 47:09
  home with headship a father, a husband, a grandfather?
• 47:14
  A patriarch? Is there someone in my home with
• 47:17
  headship that could possibly be bringing this in?
• 47:21
  And then you go another level and you say, could there be
• 47:24
  something ancestral? Could there have been sighted?
• 47:28
  Oaths that were made over the Entire bloodline or family name.
• 47:33
  And then you just keep pushing further and further.
• 47:35
  But as a final Resort, and I'll end it here and let you get in.
• 47:41
  But as a final Resort, I did mention in my book that there
• 47:46
  are a few occasions in scripture, Moses, Jesus and
• 47:51
  Abraham Abraham's account actually appears in the book of
• 47:55
  jasher. We have three men that the enemy
• 47:59
  seemed to know before they were born, that this guy was going to
• 48:05
  be a thorn in their side and attempts were made to take their
• 48:11
  lives as an infant. And so are there cases if we
• 48:16
  are? Here's a bunch of hypotheticals.
• 48:18
  If we are in the end generation then that means that God is in
• 48:26
  the process now. Now of gathering and training
• 48:29
  and equipping, and end times Army who will be able to have
• 48:36
  the discernment to not be fooled by by the great deception and
• 48:41
  they will not have fear and they will.
• 48:45
  In part be trained through spiritual warfare.
• 48:49
  David didn't just go out and slay Goliath.
• 48:52
  He killed the bear and the lion first.
• 48:55
  That was his training. And so in some cases, perhaps
• 49:01
  the enemy has some sort of an idea of who these soldiers are
• 49:07
  who the people in. This end times, Army are going
• 49:10
  to be and he's going to seek them out from childhood and he's
• 49:14
  going to try everything in his power to wipe them out.
• 49:18
  And if you can't wipe them out physically, then he'll start to
• 49:20
  wipe them out spiritually. They'll start to get them to
• 49:23
  recant or they'll be so hurt. Or Go through some sort of
• 49:27
  trauma in their life or they'll deny Christ and they'll say it's
• 49:30
  not worth it. And I don't believe in this
• 49:32
  anymore or he'll get them intrigued with the supernatural
• 49:37
  to the point where they get sucked in and they start getting
• 49:40
  into false, some false aspects of spirituality.
• 49:44
  He's going to do whatever he can, I think to systematically
• 49:48
  wipe this Army out so that, you know, when, when it gets to the
• 49:52
  battlefield, instead of 10,000, maybe they'll be Be 5000 and
• 49:58
  then he feels like he can. He can take that, he can take
• 50:01
  them. So these are just some of my
• 50:04
  musings as I've talked to other people.
• 50:07
  And some of this is is documented in in the book as
• 50:12
  well. Sometimes I feel like I've
• 50:16
  stopped at the brook and I'm looking down and I'm going to
• 50:21
  pick up stones but I keep lifting my head up to see how
• 50:25
  many I need to pick up. How many brothers does he have.
• 50:29
  You know, like when David stops he picks up five, smooth stones.
• 50:35
  And I think there's a lot of other people out there that are
• 50:37
  right in. This weird are everywhere.
• 50:38
  It's like I'm about sick of this barbaric, giant tormenting, my
• 50:47
  home, my family, my blessings, and how deep, and how far back
• 50:54
  like you were saying systematically?
• 50:57
  How deep, and how far back does it go?
• 50:58
  How many stones? Do I need to pick up?
• 51:00
  Hmm. How many brothers does he have?
• 51:02
  David picked up five Stones? I think Goliath had four
• 51:05
  brothers, but Vicki, you said some stuff there, it just blows
• 51:08
  me away. Some people within the audience
• 51:10
  have been asking for quite some time for me to do what's called
• 51:13
  an explanation which is I have alluded to a lot of these very
• 51:18
  interesting things that I've experienced throughout the
• 51:20
  course of my life and honestly I'm still kind of I'm still on
• 51:24
  the journey. There's so much going on, so
• 51:29
  like that, just that scared me a little bit.
• 51:31
  When you're going through it because I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 51:33
  Like it just keeps getting keeps getting deeper and we're
• 51:36
  dressing. Keep doing this podcast, like
• 51:39
  some of them just like, yeah, there's no way at all to get
• 51:44
  around or out of this now, like, there's no turning back.
• 51:47
  It is like this Beyond an option.
• 51:50
  You're welcome. So kind of like, Really put the
• 51:56
  icing on the cake. I know they said that five
• 51:58
  episodes ago, but seriously now we're even deeper and it just
• 52:01
  keeps happening, but it's refreshing in a way because I'm
• 52:05
  also like Like I know God has given me peace on certain things
• 52:09
  like just peace in my heart where I'm just like man I know
• 52:13
  this is going to be okay and then sometimes we feel a little
• 52:15
  bit of like the shutter and the earthquake of what the world and
• 52:18
  the enemy in the dark winds that Whip and crack the air around
• 52:22
  us, it hasn't moved me. So I mean I've had people try to
• 52:27
  kill me. I actually had my near-death
• 52:30
  encounter. I got jumped by eight guys and
• 52:34
  Yeah, beat it into the ground. Like, literally that was like,
• 52:37
  my first like real near-death encounter happened.
• 52:40
  I think I was 19, 20 years old. You know, there's there's other
• 52:44
  stuff I just, I can't talk about.
• 52:46
  Yeah, but it just blows me away because there are certain things
• 52:48
  where I just like I'll talk to God now and just kind of laugh a
• 52:51
  little bit and be like Lord as like that song.
• 52:56
  I wish I knew what I know now when I was younger because this
• 52:59
  is like, you know, they did have me pretty jacked. act up, but As
• 53:06
  I went so far in, then I felt it's almost like, I'm anchored
• 53:11
  to God somehow. And I went as far as you could
• 53:15
  possibly go, and then you're like, oh you, I can't go no
• 53:19
  further and then whatever entity that might have been stronger.
• 53:22
  The trick you to think he was stronger than you at the time.
• 53:24
  Would try to yank on your arm and he'd be like, yo, what?
• 53:28
  No he the lines right there like a little further and it's like
• 53:33
  they knew like oh Yeah, all right reinforcements because
• 53:37
  this is one. We've really don't want to be
• 53:41
  drawn back. You see, another thing that when
• 53:45
  I was younger, I didn't talk for years like most people don't,
• 53:48
  don't know this, but here's one more thing.
• 53:50
  I'll add to, you know, part of the future explanation, they
• 53:54
  held me back in kindergarten because I wouldn't say a word to
• 53:56
  anybody There's something wrong with me and but I was really
• 54:02
  good at art work, you know, like my dad had came to visit just a
• 54:05
  few months back and I hadn't seen him.
• 54:07
  Well, last year I seen them but before that it was like five or
• 54:09
  six years and I remember him saying oh yeah, you know, so
• 54:13
  good at Art when you were a kid. He's like the teachers would
• 54:15
  just look and they'd be perplexed.
• 54:17
  They'd be like his artwork is, you know, fourth and fifth and
• 54:21
  sixth grade status in kindergarten, but he, he won't
• 54:27
  talk. Or do any of the other work.
• 54:28
  So, you know, they're the flunk me and they didn't have terms
• 54:31
  like ADD and ADHD at all these crazy terms like when I was a
• 54:34
  kid like now it's like, oh yeah, you know, I'm borderline
• 54:38
  dyslexic. You know, I deal with ADD like
• 54:41
  all these things that like they slap terms on.
• 54:43
  I'm just like whatever. Like okay if that's the language
• 54:47
  that like helps you understand own peculiar, great.
• 54:49
  Cool. Let's move on because like you
• 54:53
  know, I can't hang there too long but yeah.
• 54:57
  Then I shouldn't have been born, you know, I don't really want to
• 55:01
  get into the details that, you know, my dad wanted a son and my
• 55:04
  mom. They were like, okay, we're
• 55:06
  finished, you know, we have enough kids and she actually
• 55:08
  went to get her tubes tied and then found out.
• 55:11
  She was pregnant with me. Oh my God, she cried for like
• 55:14
  you know, weeks, she said because she just she had thought
• 55:17
  like. Okay, like this is kids are a
• 55:19
  lot harder than I imagined like we're done like we're gonna
• 55:23
  budge it. We're gonna you know and I think
• 55:25
  she was maxed out and then found out she was pregnant.
• 55:27
  Ardent with me. So you know, I've heard that my
• 55:29
  whole life too. So it's funny that you say that
• 55:32
  because I'm like Oh God, like, please help just help.
• 55:37
  That's the power of God just help.
• 55:38
  Like, keep me humble. Keep me engaged with the right
• 55:42
  people. There's a lot of false ones that
• 55:44
  try to pop up from time to time and I feel like I've been
• 55:46
  talking way too long. I'm so sorry to the listeners.
• 55:50
  You guys. This is not the normal
• 55:52
  interview. Me, like, sometimes I said this
• 55:55
  recently, sometimes I just leave interview mode and I'm just
• 55:58
  like, this is organically the best conversation right now
• 56:02
  ever. So I don't care.
• 56:04
  Yeah, this is good. You know, you use you said some
• 56:08
  key things, whether you realize it or not and you know not to go
• 56:12
  all psycho Babble on people but one of the things that I have
• 56:18
  had to struggle with my entire life and sometimes I'm aware
• 56:24
  that it's there and then sometimes I'm completely not
• 56:29
  aware of it at all. And then the, you know, the
• 56:30
  spirit reveals to me like this is the route.
• 56:32
  It's always the same route. No matter what I thought.
• 56:34
  I figured that out. But you know, when you even if
• 56:38
  you were raised in a home where you were loved and provided for
• 56:42
  and taking care of your basic needs were being met, they were
• 56:45
  being kind to you. There was no abuse, there is
• 56:48
  something in the spirit realm. And I talked about this in the
• 56:54
  book as well. We're in my case, when I was
• 56:58
  born, my parents did not know that I was going to have a birth
• 57:01
  defect. So, when I came out, I was
• 57:02
  looking pretty Pretty roughed up pretty, you know, and they
• 57:07
  didn't know what was going to happen or not.
• 57:09
  And so my mom told the story about how when she was sharing a
• 57:15
  room with three other mothers and the isolettes got wheeled
• 57:21
  in, and every mom was going to get a chance for the first time
• 57:25
  to hold their baby and the other three women grab their babies
• 57:31
  and we're cooing and everything and Mom.
• 57:33
  Looked over into the isolette and she did not want to pick me
• 57:38
  up. She was somewhat grossed out,
• 57:43
  right? And she didn't want to do it,
• 57:45
  and she said that she saw the eyes of the other three mothers
• 57:49
  staring at her boring into her, like, what is she going to do
• 57:53
  and out of pure pressure, out of fear of, man?
• 57:56
  Not wanting these other mothers to think poorly of her.
• 57:59
  She picked me up. And so, the first Contact I had
• 58:02
  with my mom and my mom's arms, she did not want me.
• 58:06
  It was that Spirit of Rejection, and this is what the Babel comes
• 58:10
  in, sorry, but That Spirit of Rejection.
• 58:14
  I've since read this is amazing to meet Rod, I have since read
• 58:19
  from Christian psychologist and neurologists and things that the
• 58:24
  bonding between a child and his mother doesn't come from the
• 58:30
  breastfeeding and the holding it comes from when your first born
• 58:35
  and the mother makes eye contact with you and it is the uh, Eye
• 58:41
  contact. Wow.
• 58:43
  Between you and your mother you and your father you that is
• 58:46
  where you start to develop your whether or not you are wanted in
• 58:53
  this world. And so because I had a deformed
• 58:56
  face, none of the adults that were picking me up and I was
• 59:00
  being picked up few and far between.
• 59:01
  I was in the hospital the first month of my life and people
• 59:04
  weren't cuddling with me. No one was looking at me and if
• 59:07
  they were making eye contact with me, it was pity and so I
• 59:11
  Went home a month later not having been held, not having
• 59:14
  been breastfed and not having had any real eye contact.
• 59:19
  And so, I already knew on some level at one month old.
• 59:24
  This world does not want me. I don't fit in here, and I went
• 59:28
  into survival mode at one month old, and I was in survival mode
• 59:32
  until I was 40 and God broke that through a very painful Dark
• 59:38
  Night of the Soul. So you're telling me things.
• 59:41
  To like, you know, your mother was like, oh, okay, there are
• 59:45
  things in the spiritual that get embedded deeply into our soul.
• 59:51
  And this is another aspect of people that, that are set apart
• 59:56
  for God, here we have these children that come on to planet
• 1:00:01
  Earth. God has set us apart to be his
• 1:00:05
  elect. He has plans for us, he's giving
• 1:00:08
  us gifts, he's given you artwork, he gave.
• 1:00:11
  Writing, he's given us this desire to communicate and
• 1:00:16
  articulate truths and and to help people.
• 1:00:19
  And we're both empaths. So what happens from day one?
• 1:00:23
  The enemy says, I want to read a label this person so that from
• 1:00:28
  day one, they don't go to scriptures for their identity.
• 1:00:31
  They don't know that they're fearfully and wonderfully made,
• 1:00:33
  they don't know that they're the apple of his eye.
• 1:00:35
  They don't know that we're royal priesthood, they don't know that
• 1:00:38
  were the bride. We only We grow up with Hyper
• 1:00:43
  taylorism, which is my birth defect, we grow up with
• 1:00:48
  deformity, add mute those labels become our identity.
• 1:00:55
  And even after we find Christ and we, you know, everything is
• 1:01:00
  on the outside. Like, I've got it all worked out
• 1:01:03
  like it's good. I got all these friends and I
• 1:01:05
  got my driver's license. I went to college, everything's
• 1:01:08
  great and what we don't realize And I was kind of talking about
• 1:01:13
  this earlier, when I was talking about these astral covenants, we
• 1:01:16
  may have made with false bridegroom's, and we may not
• 1:01:18
  know these declarations. And I talked about this in my
• 1:01:22
  book. When We Make false declarations
• 1:01:26
  about who we are, when we ascribe to ourselves unbiblical,
• 1:01:30
  untrue labels, when we believe ruinous Lies, when we make Oaths
• 1:01:37
  and declarations. I'll never get married.
• 1:01:41
  I'll Never Love again. I'll never trust a man.
• 1:01:44
  You know, there is no God. When we say these things, they
• 1:01:49
  they might be quickly forgotten by us, but the enemies in the
• 1:01:55
  high places, they intercept those messages.
• 1:02:00
  Oh my gosh. And then they have a legal
• 1:02:03
  ticket. They have legal right now and
• 1:02:07
  so, you know, here I am. I am decades away from my birth.
• 1:02:11
  I don't remember any of this. I don't remember the times.
• 1:02:14
  I came home from Junior High saying, I hate someone so and
• 1:02:18
  I'm never getting married. And I hate guys, you know,
• 1:02:21
  because they were so mean to me, I don't remember any of that
• 1:02:24
  stuff. I'm over it.
• 1:02:24
  I'm not holding grudges, I don't cry.
• 1:02:26
  I don't look in the mirror and SOB over the way I look like I'm
• 1:02:29
  an extremely healthy, confident person.
• 1:02:32
  I leave scars and everything I like my face but those things
• 1:02:38
  were intercepted. One by one is I remember them?
• 1:02:42
  I declare out loud. Father, forgive me.
• 1:02:44
  That was a lie. I believed a lie.
• 1:02:47
  I am so sorry, I didn't know, and I will end on this.
• 1:02:53
  There's an obscure section in the Book of Numbers where it
• 1:02:59
  talks about women who make vows to God.
• 1:03:05
  So it's this is not a, this is not an Apples to Apples
• 1:03:08
  comparison but the Concept I think is similar what it says
• 1:03:14
  is. If you're a man and you make a
• 1:03:16
  vowel, your vow holds, That's it.
• 1:03:22
  Your word is your word if you are a woman and you make a vow,
• 1:03:31
  Once you're, if you're married, if your husband hears of it, or
• 1:03:36
  if you're not married in your father, or your brother, who,
• 1:03:39
  you know, if your father's dead, if it's your brother, if the
• 1:03:42
  headship character in your life, whether it be a husband or
• 1:03:46
  brother, or a father, the day that your husband or father, or
• 1:03:52
  brother hear about that vow, it doesn't have to be the same day
• 1:03:55
  the day that they hear of it. If they disapprove, they can
• 1:04:01
  View of your vow and you can get out of it.
• 1:04:05
  So what I pray, when I wake up in the morning because I don't
• 1:04:11
  know in every case if if there's something that's happened that
• 1:04:15
  night that I don't remember or as memories come back to me of
• 1:04:19
  stupid things, I said in haste or things that I said in over
• 1:04:25
  unchecked emotion or self-pity, these declarations that I made
• 1:04:29
  about my identity. Your lies.
• 1:04:31
  I believed what I do is I say, father, you are, you have
• 1:04:37
  designated yourself as my heavenly father Jesus.
• 1:04:40
  You've designated yourself as my bride groom.
• 1:04:43
  So this is the day now that you've heard about these vows
• 1:04:46
  that I made. If you disapprove of them will
• 1:04:51
  you disavow me of them? And I just have faith that as I
• 1:04:55
  pray, you know, with the help of the Holy Spirit, I ask how to
• 1:05:00
  pray for these Things. And and one by one, as he's come
• 1:05:03
  to my mind, I'm able to ask God to disavow me of those foolish
• 1:05:07
  things that I said, because there are so much power in the
• 1:05:11
  tongue. And the word says so much about
• 1:05:13
  the tongue being a Rudder and it talks about one day, we are
• 1:05:17
  going to be held accountable for every foolish thing that came
• 1:05:20
  out of our mouths. And I do think that there is A
• 1:05:29
  huge link between people who have a calling on their life,
• 1:05:34
  who are born with with the sign on their forehead, that nobody
• 1:05:38
  can see. But God, these people that were
• 1:05:40
  born with a purpose or a calling that have been targeted as at a
• 1:05:46
  young age. There's many things that we all
• 1:05:47
  have in common, a lot of us are empaths, a lot of us have had
• 1:05:51
  almost dying experiences. A lot of us have felt lonely and
• 1:05:56
  isolated and misunderstood. A lot of us have a gaping wound
• 1:06:04
  of rejection that goes all the way back to day one.
• 1:06:08
  It needs to be recognized, it needs to be repented of it.
• 1:06:12
  We need to disavow ourselves of those things and I believe that
• 1:06:17
  this, this route of rejection is a Cancer and it is It's dormant
• 1:06:27
  and a lot of people and then there's a lot of people because
• 1:06:29
  we're a prideful people that we don't wanted to admit it so we,
• 1:06:32
  you know, like oh, I don't have anxiety.
• 1:06:34
  Oh, I don't have depression. My word to the wise Rod is
• 1:06:38
  always hey, when in doubt if the spirit actually is able to get
• 1:06:44
  through to us because, you know, we're a distracted overly busy
• 1:06:47
  people. Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  We're going at 3,000 RPMs a day. This is why we can't even
• 1:06:52
  remember to like bring our car keys.
• 1:06:54
  When were Go into the car and we got to write stuff down and we
• 1:06:58
  need these to-do lists. We're going 100 miles an hour,
• 1:07:01
  and if the Holy Spirit actually penetrated our thoughts actually
• 1:07:07
  got through that tangle of thoughts.
• 1:07:12
  And we, it resonated with us, then it must be important.
• 1:07:15
  You drop everything that you're doing.
• 1:07:17
  I don't care if you're in public, I can you drop
• 1:07:20
  everything that you're doing right then and there and you
• 1:07:23
  bring that in prayer and you get that.
• 1:07:25
  Taken care of because you might forget five minutes later, you
• 1:07:28
  might not remember when you get home to do that.
• 1:07:32
  Wow. This is the first time we ever
• 1:07:36
  talked and just I feel like, you know, so well I feel like you're
• 1:07:43
  talking about me when you're talking about them or you or
• 1:07:46
  this, and then I'll chime back in.
• 1:07:49
  And it's just, it's unreal because it's an emotional roller
• 1:07:52
  coaster. I jump in and ride with people
• 1:07:56
  in certain episodes. Like they'll be Parts.
• 1:07:59
  Where I'll tell them. I just took an emotional
• 1:08:00
  rollercoaster with you and then it's right back to business,
• 1:08:03
  like it was, but this is one of those up.
• 1:08:05
  It was wears a lot a lot more frequent and on.
• 1:08:09
  It's so personal. It's so personal because we're
• 1:08:13
  hitting some Roots here and you know, people if they listen this
• 1:08:19
  far that means you can relate and that means they're feeling
• 1:08:22
  most likely how we feel right now Vicki, which is like a bit
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  of Liberation but like still kind of like, I personally a
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  little bit terrified. Yeah.
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  Like yeah, like you know what I mean?
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  Like, happy excited. Yeah.
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  Well, this is so cool. It's like First time you ride a
• 1:08:36
  roller coaster, maybe second, or third times, you have a little
• 1:08:39
  bit of an idea what's going on here.
• 1:08:40
  But you got on the roller coaster because it's fun.
• 1:08:44
  But you also knew you were going to be terrified and screaming.
• 1:08:47
  Bloody murder when a boy like magical you upside down and
• 1:08:50
  that's sometimes how this journey feels formula.
• 1:08:53
  I feel excited but I also feel like okay my stomach's about the
• 1:08:56
  drop. Yeah well I'm so weird.
• 1:09:00
  So I'm really enjoying this conversation.
• 1:09:02
  I'll tell you what like anybody who's like hey man, I got this.
• 1:09:05
  About sleep paralysis. I want to hear about Shadow
• 1:09:07
  People and succubus has look, man, you go to my website, you
• 1:09:11
  click on the media tab, you can listen to hours and hours and
• 1:09:14
  hours of me talking about the vampires in the threshold
• 1:09:17
  covenants and the astral realm, like it's all out there.
• 1:09:21
  I've said it a million times, but what this episode is really
• 1:09:25
  doing is is a Roundtable for the people that have had sleep
• 1:09:29
  paralysis their entire life. The people that have had sleep
• 1:09:32
  paralysis their entire life. It's kind of like guys that come
• 1:09:35
  back. From war.
• 1:09:36
  Everybody wants to hear their War Stories, but the guys that
• 1:09:39
  our war heroes, they don't want to come back and relive that
• 1:09:41
  they don't want to talk about that.
• 1:09:43
  People who've gone through sleep paralysis.
• 1:09:45
  I saw a shadow person was, oh, yeah, well, I saw the Hat man
• 1:09:47
  wants y'all. One time I got pulled off my
• 1:09:49
  bed, we don't care. It's all like we've all seen it
• 1:09:52
  a million times. That what we really want to know
• 1:09:54
  is why is this happening to me? And this is made, this is
• 1:09:59
  changing who I am and this is making my soul Dark, and this is
• 1:10:04
  making me question. It if I'm okay with God and it's
• 1:10:08
  just making ever be normal. And can I have a family or a my
• 1:10:12
  mentally ill or why is this keep?
• 1:10:14
  Wow, how come every door? I close.
• 1:10:16
  How come it's still happening? This, this is a discussion for
• 1:10:19
  people who don't need the Goosebumps and the campfire
• 1:10:24
  stories. These are the people that have
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  been there for 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years and this is perhaps the
• 1:10:32
  first time sleep paralysis has even been discussed. at this
• 1:10:36
  level because it's deeply entrenched with our identity and
• 1:10:42
  it's deeply entrenched with how we visualize in our head and our
• 1:10:50
  aware at every moment that this life is a cosmic war and
• 1:10:55
  someone's got one arm, someone's got the other arm and we are in
• 1:10:59
  the middle of this tug-of-war and we can't relate to the world
• 1:11:04
  around us where people Walk around in a daze just talking
• 1:11:07
  about social media and Netflix series, and response, and their
• 1:11:12
  favorite foods. You're sitting there listening
• 1:11:15
  to all of this stuff and it's almost like you have Sleeping
• 1:11:18
  gas and you can hear them talking but they're like a room
• 1:11:21
  away and you're like, this is not the world I live in, you're
• 1:11:27
  freaking me out. I've been looking for friends
• 1:11:33
  like a whole, like I'll go so far with people and here I am on
• 1:11:37
  the podcast or like, this is gonna go all over the place and
• 1:11:44
  we're not the only ones, they're not alone.
• 1:11:46
  There's got to be thousands of other people out there, who, who
• 1:11:51
  felt this way. And I mean, look at Jesus, you
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  know, he might not have sleep paralysis, but obviously he was
• 1:11:56
  being hounded by the enemy all the time, right?
• 1:11:59
  And what do we see over? Over and over again.
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  He was always retreating alone. Oh, my gosh, is he didn't give
• 1:12:07
  you such a, he was exhausted. He was burned out, man.
• 1:12:13
  Well, you says many strong Bulls of Bashan of the compass me,
• 1:12:16
  right? That's recorded and he's going
• 1:12:18
  up and he's praying and he's taking time with God and
• 1:12:22
  literally like within the just the last month I can't even get
• 1:12:26
  into it, but I cannot tell you how many times people have used,
• 1:12:30
  which is a public Realm. Event weakness, that that money,
• 1:12:32
  you know, people like my private life for that.
• 1:12:34
  I work with or something would know that I have against me to
• 1:12:37
  try to crush me with it and I look at him now I'm just like
• 1:12:39
  yeah, you're out your mind. Like you think that's going to
• 1:12:42
  work like if this was chess like you're thinking Checker moves
• 1:12:47
  and I already mapped out Checkmate and I don't mean to be
• 1:12:50
  bold when I say that. But the reason I depicted that
• 1:12:53
  way is that does not work. Yes.
• 1:12:55
  Like like you're revealing to me that you're an out-of-date piece
• 1:13:00
  of software that can Cannot complete his mission.
• 1:13:02
  Yes. And it's weird because you know,
• 1:13:06
  still alert then learning to balance of needs to have
• 1:13:08
  compassion and be cordial and be, you know, I guess we're
• 1:13:13
  talking about things. Now that I've ran through my
• 1:13:16
  head, I talk to God about it, prayed about it.
• 1:13:18
  I very selectively talked with people about.
• 1:13:20
  I had somebody tell me where multiple people say, oh, why are
• 1:13:22
  you so Cryptid cryptic when he talked like why is it always?
• 1:13:26
  And I'm like it's my protective mechanism because I know that
• 1:13:28
  there's a lot of wolves out here.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah. You know.
• 1:13:31
  And I'm not, like running around looking for more punishment
• 1:13:33
  like, did you? Not obviously, you don't notice
• 1:13:36
  much because I lived in here and you didn't say anything.
• 1:13:38
  So yeah, it's just so weird. It's also weird because it's
• 1:13:42
  like as it becomes more real, you just start to go I don't
• 1:13:46
  know if I'm ever going to have like a real friend.
• 1:13:48
  Like hey let's go watch the baseball game pal, go get a
• 1:13:53
  Cheesesteak. Like I'm outside of Philly and,
• 1:13:55
  you know, people like what kind of cheese steak you get them.
• 1:13:56
  Like, I've been in my house reading for three days.
• 1:13:58
  Look, pretty Joy Vicki. God has blessed you and you
• 1:14:09
  bring joy to me. You're going to bring joy to
• 1:14:12
  other people. You are being used by God to
• 1:14:15
  just it all starts to make sense.
• 1:14:17
  When the chosen one start to get together, they edify each other.
• 1:14:21
  They encourage each other. They just know because it's like
• 1:14:24
  yo I'm not alone and you're speaking stuff that I thought
• 1:14:29
  other people couldn't understand.
• 1:14:31
  Get on that wavelength with and then, you know, there's an
• 1:14:33
  anointing on this person's life and, you know, God divinely
• 1:14:36
  opened up a door for you to be with that person to communicate
• 1:14:39
  with that person. So that's these little
• 1:14:41
  idiosyncrasies. For me is like I'm a part of
• 1:14:43
  this generation where we're going to rip the rest of the
• 1:14:47
  veil like it's been fading and thinning and God's going to like
• 1:14:50
  okay. Now get him ripping on them
• 1:14:52
  because this day won't surprise you God's going to say because
• 1:14:56
  you have been on the wall watching and weeping and you
• 1:14:59
  have been heavy and bird. And like they say, even Jesus
• 1:15:02
  was a man to tears me at times. Yeah, like he was always, but
• 1:15:08
  there's, there's this joy that comes from knowing even though
• 1:15:14
  I'm suffering, even though this all had happened, it's going to
• 1:15:19
  be okay. Absolutely, amen.
• 1:15:22
  Amen, you know, there's this business philosophy, it's called
• 1:15:26
  The Law of unintended consequences.
• 1:15:28
  And you know, it's when you have an innovation or Sort of
• 1:15:31
  protocol or something and you know, in your mind you've got it
• 1:15:34
  all mapped out on paper, it's going to be great.
• 1:15:36
  It's going to save money. It's going to sell a million
• 1:15:37
  dollars. And then there's that one like,
• 1:15:40
  oh darn, I never thought of that and it kind of blows up in your
• 1:15:43
  face. So this is law of unintended
• 1:15:45
  consequences and I think the perfect example of someone who
• 1:15:50
  keeps falling for that is the enemy.
• 1:15:51
  You know, it keeps thinking he's got the Lord checkmated and then
• 1:15:55
  it's like oh that blew up in my face.
• 1:15:56
  And so, the way I'm kind of looking at this, this is why I'm
• 1:16:00
  willing to come out. Out and talked publicly about
• 1:16:02
  something that no one wants to talk about, no one wants to
• 1:16:04
  admit, you're going to get gas lit.
• 1:16:06
  The medical in the science field are going to just keep
• 1:16:08
  gaslighting you you're schizophrenic you're crazier
• 1:16:11
  this year, that whatever, I don't care, I got bullied for
• 1:16:14
  the first 18 years of my life. I the last thing in the world to
• 1:16:17
  bring you down this someone insulting me but the way I look
• 1:16:21
  at it as, okay? Enemy you want to bring us into
• 1:16:23
  a Quantum age and you want to entangle all of us together and
• 1:16:28
  create a hive mind. Guess what?
• 1:16:31
  Guess what? That means that people like me
• 1:16:34
  and Rod find each other and when you create a hive mind and all
• 1:16:38
  of God's elect to have been silently in survival mode alone,
• 1:16:43
  their whole life, and they're in the in the fetal position,
• 1:16:46
  getting hold full, triage unit. Yeah, we're going to find each
• 1:16:49
  other because you let's go. Yes, we will be go thousand
• 1:16:54
  strong and will we are going to be what brings you down.
• 1:16:56
  So Hive us together, all you want.
• 1:16:59
  It will blow up in your face. Ace and that is a perfect
• 1:17:03
  transition just to really reflect on this conversation and
• 1:17:07
  just enter into the rest of this evening.
• 1:17:10
  Just going God, I am excited. Yeah, and Ventures kids into
• 1:17:15
  continuing to reach for that armor.
• 1:17:17
  And as the day draws near that, you know, we just continue to
• 1:17:21
  communicate and sharpen each other and bear each other's
• 1:17:24
  burdens. You guys.
• 1:17:26
  This is a different. This is a whole different level
• 1:17:28
  of communication. I have been sober.
• 1:17:31
  Herb for the last three years on this show, just kind of give a
• 1:17:34
  little tidbits here and there but I've been feeling it.
• 1:17:37
  You guys seen you do some other stuff with me recently where I'm
• 1:17:40
  starting to open up more, and come out.
• 1:17:42
  Because I really just feel like, you know what the enemies like
• 1:17:44
  has swung at me so hard. I'm really like well, that
• 1:17:48
  didn't actually hurt as bad. Like I clenched and was way more
• 1:17:51
  scared than when I actually got hit.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah. And then God, in the secret
• 1:17:56
  space, is starts to tell you whose shoulders back kid,
• 1:17:59
  calling my name. I'm the only Thing, that can
• 1:18:02
  Empower you. Do you not know that you speak
• 1:18:04
  from a place of Victory and that's why That's why what we're
• 1:18:10
  doing is so important because years ago, there was another
• 1:18:14
  podcast, there was a there was only a very small handful of
• 1:18:17
  people that came up. Look me in the eyes and said
• 1:18:19
  you're different. And you have what it takes.
• 1:18:22
  And inside, I'm like, I'm ready to cry because I'm like, my dad
• 1:18:25
  called me a traitor. They beat me up when I was
• 1:18:28
  younger. Everybody made fun of me.
• 1:18:30
  I've been chased around neighborhoods.
• 1:18:31
  I've had guns pulled on me. I've been beat up, I thought all
• 1:18:33
  kinds of stuff. I've lived in beautiful homes
• 1:18:35
  with everything and I've been in nothing.
• 1:18:37
  I've been in the gutter, Experienced a little bit of both
• 1:18:41
  and I never understood why I'm like guys why is everything out
• 1:18:45
  of whack nothing's balance. Like always just one.
• 1:18:47
  Not like don't hurt me, like stay away.
• 1:18:49
  Always just wanted to kind of get into the next room without
• 1:18:52
  being liked. verbally or spiritually, or even physically
• 1:18:57
  gripped up and questioned, her hit songs and That's that's no
• 1:19:03
  more. It's not that's no more.
• 1:19:09
  I'm just going to speak this scripture over you as well as
• 1:19:13
  anyone listening, this bar who's also resonating with us wishing
• 1:19:18
  like, man, I wish I was on that podcast talking to them because
• 1:19:20
  I'm resonating with this. I'm just going to speak this
• 1:19:23
  over you rod and anyone else that this applies to who's
• 1:19:26
  listening, who's been wary, Beatdown discouraged.
• 1:19:31
  Mislabeled to Grant those who mourn in Zion giving them a
• 1:19:38
  Garland instead of Ashes the oil of gladness instead of mourning
• 1:19:44
  the cloak of Praise instead of a disheartened spirit.
• 1:19:50
  So they will be called Oaks of righteousness.
• 1:19:53
  The planting of the Lord that he may be glorified.
• 1:19:59
  So we're going to go forth from from this day, Rod, you, and I,
• 1:20:02
  and anyone else who's with us listening, we're going to put on
• 1:20:06
  a cloak of praise and we are going to take the label not of
• 1:20:12
  rejected, not of ugly, not of add not of whatever we pad.
• 1:20:16
  We're going to take on the label of an oak of righteousness
• 1:20:21
  firmly planted in the ground. When the storm comes, we will
• 1:20:25
  not be shaken and the name of God will be glorified.
• 1:20:28
  Glorified. Looks like this show is going to
• 1:20:32
  have to morph into the millennial mustard tree for
• 1:20:35
  season for it. See it's got to act like it's
• 1:20:42
  still a CD but the enemy don't know.
• 1:20:46
  That's right. The biggest plant in the garden.
• 1:20:51
  Wow. Vicki.
• 1:20:53
  It's been an honor. I'm so happy that God spoke this
• 1:21:00
  and then we both just listen and went with it.
• 1:21:02
  And now the outcome already is just I'm just excited for the
• 1:21:08
  future. Everything that you you said
• 1:21:09
  here tonight has been edifying for me, it's challenging me
• 1:21:13
  literally. I'm like I need to go for a walk
• 1:21:14
  and get some water now after this episode, so tell the
• 1:21:18
  listeners where they can find you too.
• 1:21:20
  I'm going to ask you to send. Privately then a link for like
• 1:21:24
  your book and just any show notes estoppel, tell them
• 1:21:26
  verbally right now where they can find the book where they can
• 1:21:28
  find the show. Anything that you're working on.
• 1:21:31
  Sure thing. Thank you so much.
• 1:21:33
  So the book is they only come out at night, exposing the dark
• 1:21:38
  weapon of sleep paralysis. It is available exclusively on
• 1:21:41
  l.a. Marzulli dotnet.
• 1:21:44
  You can get ahold of me or get my other books at Viki.
• 1:21:46
  Joy Anderson.com. And I'm on Instagram at Viki.
• 1:21:51
  Joy author. You can also catch me on YouTube
• 1:21:54
  with my co-host, Tom Done. Tom done, was the mentee and
• 1:21:59
  protege of the late. Great, Russ dizdar.
• 1:22:03
  We do a show through the lacked as a show of six nights a week
• 1:22:07
  on YouTube. Tom and I are, we do our shows
• 1:22:11
  Monday through Wednesday, 11 p.m.
• 1:22:13
  Eastern Monday through Saturday? Well, that's it.
• 1:22:17
  That's the show you guys heard it.
• 1:22:19
  If I know if you made it this far.
• 1:22:22
  Listen. It helped share this.
• 1:22:25
  What are you waiting for? Share this, with your pastor,
• 1:22:27
  share this with a friend, share this with somebody who, you
• 1:22:29
  know, is going through this. But get the word out, because
• 1:22:33
  these Oaks and righteousness are not backing down.
• 1:22:36
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• 1:22:38
  God Bless America. Goodbye.