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- speaker-0: Hey everyone, welcome to a Hall of Fame edition of A G T Time. ⁓ speaker-1: Welcome back to AGT time, Cody. What a season. What a season season twenty one was. Can't believe another singer won the show. Can you believe it, Cody? speaker-0: What a Caesar. No, I think I love the magician that won. speaker-1: There you go. There's our prediction. ⁓ it is 10 48 AM Central Time, Saturday, May 16th, as we sit here. The assumed drop date in people's feed of this pod as of now is November 5th. So here we are, just over five months ⁓ that this thing's been sitting in the hopper. ⁓ and it marks, Cody, as it now always does, the return. After the season, the beginning of the off season for the AGT Time Pod. It's great to be back. Cody, it's great to be back. I missed you. speaker-0: One prediction I'd like for you to make, what number pod do you think this is? speaker-1: I know, I was thinking about that. The the smart bet would just be to base it off of how many in seasons we did a year ago. Yeah. So we just ⁓ so as we sit here, Cody and I just recorded the final episode of last off season. So we ⁓ we're doing this one too. That was four nineteen. So if we do thirty two pods again, so let's say we just start at thirty. That would be four forty nine. Okay. So this is four fifty to four fifty three, probably somewhere in that ballpark. Who knows? So we're probably at four fifty or just about. speaker-0: What what do want to take the over under on? speaker-1: Four fifty and a half. What are you gonna are you gonna make a bet? I'm gonna say under. speaker-0: ⁓ person. Yeah, I think we're gonna I think I'm gonna take the under on there. Okay. Yeah. Not that I'm gonna try to weasel the speaker-1: Right. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, no. All right. ⁓ but yeah. What's it Okay, fair enough. Okay, be good for the prediction when this comes out. speaker-0: But you're taking the under I'll take the over. Yeah, I'll take the over. speaker-1: But here we are to reveal the ⁓ to reveal the ballot for the class of twenty twenty seven. We're here today. We're also just gonna do a little preview. Again, the preview will be tentative, but my guess is it'll be a pretty good preview of what's gonna come up. At least I don't know about order or dates or anything like that, but w the content we're planning to put out in in this off season we can we have a pretty good sense of where that's at even five months ago. ⁓ Let's tell people where to find us, Cody, and then let's rock this thing. speaker-0: You find us on our socials at AGT Time Pod. You can email us agt timepod at gmail.com. You can find commenter out there at AGT Commenter. And I I I was saying before that go check out our new website, but by now it's speaker-1: It's it's archaic at this point. We might have another new one by now. speaker-0: Go go check out our website, ATT timepod dot com. The ha the Hall of Fame stuff is out there. Yes. Our pods are out there. I'm hoping we've got other content by now out there. But we'll see. Hopefully. So speaker-1: And as you're listening to this in a couple months, there'll be another class of the AGT Hall of Fame on that website. So get ready for that. ⁓ off season eleven. This is the eleventh off season of the AGT time pod starts today, Cody, which is exciting. speaker-0: Yes. Go back and listen to our season our pod season ten finale to understand how all that worked out. speaker-1: Yes. Yes, and there's some some snippets and tidbits on the Hall of Fame, some updates to stuff. And I'll I'll c I'll recap a couple things, but we are here today to reveal really the reveal is the seven new names, is what it ended up being. Not the names coming back are not a secret. They're the ones that didn't fall off the ballot last year. But twenty-four name ballot, the smallest ballot yet. We had thirty on the first ballot in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six had twenty six. No. Yeah. Twenty six. That worked out. I didn't even realize I did that. ⁓ and then here we are for the twenty twenty seven class. I'll have twenty four names. ⁓ I'll get into some rules stuff first, but or in a minute, but ⁓ you know I love the Hall of Fame. It it's it w we both have really enjoy it's become a very fun thing for us. It's fun to get other people involved in the pod with like the voting and stuff like that. So ⁓ but We're into the third ballot now, Cody. And so stuff starts to get a little interesting. There's names that are now making their way on that are a little less, you know, all time famous. Some acts now are it's, you know, it's back up you know on the ropes, back up against the wall to keep yourself on the ballot. We have some third balladers that are on here. This will be the third time appearing. What are you anticipating in this, you know, what what are your expectations both for this coming Hall of Fame class as well as this ballot? Are you are you excited? speaker-0: I'm obviously excited, ⁓ because it's the Hall of Fame, and I love talking about some of these older acts, some of these older acts that were great, legendary acts. I'm excited to see what you've got cooked up for us. ⁓ It's gonna be interesting to see if it's as good as it was last year, because last year had some good stuff on it. speaker-1: I mean we you cried on the pod. It's gotta be the first pod that that's happened that I can recall. Sure. Maybe ⁓ Ryan when Avery Dixon came on, he might have got emotional when he saw his guy. ⁓ anyway. speaker-0: I did. speaker-1: I gotta ask you this question. Because we're now getting to the point where there's some names that names that we really like, not the Kevin Skinners and and the you know, the Jo we like Joe Castillo, but not some of these. Some of these that we really both love, that we think are probably Hall of Fame level acts, that if they don't get enough votes this year are just gonna be off the ballot. Now they're gonna go to the legacy ballot, which we'll talk about. But like is that gonna be something you're looking at, whether it's this year or in the coming years, when we start to have a lot of acts that are on here for multiple ballots? That you're like, okay, I kinda like this first ballot or better, but I got one vote left and this act needs to hit fifty percent this year or they're gonna fall off and I'd like to at least give them a shot. Is that something you're gonna consider or are you gonna try and just kinda play the hits? I like these ten or twelve and I'm taking them. speaker-0: Yeah, I'm not putting that much thought into it. I really am not. I'm like, this is who I want to be on the ballot this year. ⁓ and if they're not on it this year and they don't make it, then we'll look at it again next year. ⁓ I I may take a little bit of consideration in, like, if ⁓ s give me an example of someone that's ⁓ been on there that I may have yeah, a good one that's ⁓ still on there that I may like. Or yeah, I may look at an Angelica Hale and be like, okay, let me look at the rest of these acts. speaker-1: And Joe Cahale, I is a good example. Sure. speaker-0: Cause I'm not really considering that she's gonna fall off. But I'm like, I really want Angelica Hale on there, but I may vote for some of these others also to kind of keep them on the ballot. speaker-1: Yeah. I haven't decided what my strategy is gonna be. I I think my gut tells me it'll be like I said on the fringes, where if I've got two or three votes left and I've got five or six names that I'm considering and two of them are acts that are gonna fall off the ballot if they don't get enough enough votes, and three of them are first balloters. I might I might lean to that just knowing that the first balloters are probably at least gonna get the two votes they need to stay on. So yeah, that that part of it is is interesting. I I I wanna do this. Last year's results were weird. We didn't vote for enough acts. If I could go back and do it again, I would have given us more votes. ⁓ it made a new competit too competitive. I would say the percentages that these acts that are coming back for their th their third ballot, the percentages they got in the first ever ballot are a better marker for kind of where they're at. Like Joe Cahill got forty three point eight percent of the vote year one. She got twenty-five last year. She needs 50 this year to stay on the ballot, which we'll talk about all of the people in that. I would say she's closer to a 43.8 vote getter than she is a 25% vote getter. Ballot was too competitive, not enough votes. It was we were learning. It was ⁓ I was trying to get it. We've we've tailored that now to make it make a little more sense. It'll be more like the first ballot than the second ballot was. ⁓ so it it's gonna be interesting. ⁓ there are going to be names, I think, that absolutely will fall off the ballot again this year. We lost three last year. I think we'll lose more this year. ⁓ and they'll go to the legacy ballot, which we'll talk about. But any other questions, thoughts before I do a little qu a quick recap of how this whole thing works, because we might have a new listener, somebody that's not familiar with the Hall of Fame. I wanna do it quickly. speaker-0: Yep, let's do that. speaker-1: Eligibility. How contestants and hosts slash judges can get onto the ballot. First piece of eligibility. If you don't hit this, you'll never be on the ballot. Must have at least one televised performance on AGT. On an AGT proper stage. AGT proper stage. Now fantasy league. Now if you only have one, Nightbird's the only one that might have a shot. She's not going to make it on the ballot. RIP. ⁓ And then for hosts and judges, one. speaker-0: Not champion. speaker-1: ⁓ oops. At least one full season as a judge or host on AGT proper. Now, in the future there could be a judge that misses an episode on their full like say Gabrielle Union would have been gone for one episode. We're not rigid enough. She was the full time season. She just missed whatever. She's not gonna be on the panel anyways. speaker-0: But no Kelly Clarkson, no Keenan Thompson. Correct. speaker-1: Full time, you're on the you're on the promo poster before the season. There you go. There you go. Yeah, it's those five. ⁓ that's the only eligibility criteria for the hosts and judges. The contestants have a little bit more. So one televised performance. They're eligible there's an eligibility window for the contestants. Five seasons after your last season, your window starts. So on this ballot, the newest season is season sixteen. This might be a little bit of a repeat for you, Cody, because we just talked about this forty five minutes ago on the pod week. It's weird right now, but it's five months later, so it's not it's not repetitive. No, you're doing in my head. ⁓ so seasons seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, and now we just got done with season twenty one. That's five seasons, so season sixteen's eligible. You will see at least one name from season sixteen today. speaker-0: No. speaker-1: That's the start of their eligibility window. That runs for 15 seasons. So in total, 20 seasons after your final season. Once that hits, so 15 years from now, season 16 acts will no longer be eligible for the main ballot. That starts their legacy ballot eligibility. The legacy ballot is meant for acts that have fallen off the main ballot or acts that never made it on the main ballot that we want to give another shot to. There's no end to the legacy ballot eligibility once that starts. So that's as we sit here today, season one acts are no longer eligible. So you won't see any new season one acts on the ballot today because twenty seasons have happened since their final season, if that makes sense. Questions clear up on that. Pretty straightforward. Okay. So that means next year, season two will not be eligible for the main ballot, so on and so forth. How do we vote and how do we induct these acts? Voters will c this is a new this is a new bylaw. Voters will cast votes for exactly one half, so 50% of the ballot. If the ballot is comprised of an odd number, we will round up. So there's 24 this year, so 12 votes will be cast. Say it was 25, we would vote for 13. We'll round up. So that's a new bylaw. In the past, we were just kind of willy-nilly vote for this many. Half the ballot. Voting for half the ballot, firm. The other. ⁓ bylaw that is now official as of this class. Acts, judges, or hosts earn induction to the AGT Hall of Fame by reaching seventy five percent of the vote. So if you hit seventy five, you're in. That was not a hard rule in prior years. Sorry to Jackie Ivanko, Vanco, Ivanko, that got seventy five percent on the first ballot and didn't get inducted. This rule is not retroactive, unfortunately. I wish it was. But I'm not gonna go back and just put her in the hall of fame 'cause she said seventy five before. So she is the only vic the lone victim of this of this rule not being in place initially. So ⁓ all right. ⁓ sorry to Jackie, but speaker-0: Yeah, not R I V. You're gonna raise an RP, not R I P. Not Whatever. speaker-1: sorry to Jackie. ⁓ she needs to get back to 75 a second time. ⁓ So that is that's how voting. Vote for half. If you hit 75, you're in hard and fast rule. Don't have to overthink it anymore. If that means one gets in, that stinks, but it is what it is. If that means 12 get in, also kind of stinks, but it is what it is. Because it'll be a lot of work for me to make 12 edits and stuff. Questions on voting induction. Much more straightforward. speaker-0: Is it possible zero could get in? speaker-1: It is possible C Row could get in. Okay. That would also really suck. ⁓ any questions? Voting induction. Pretty pretty straightforward. Okay. How do they fall off retention slash elimination? How do they fall off the ballot? Overarching rule doesn't matter what ballot, if you ever receive less than two votes, you're off. So you get twenty votes. No, you can't. You get ten votes your first ballot, and then for some reason you get one the next year, you're out, even though you got more votes that first year. That also doubles as the only retention criteria for your first ballot. You just gotta get to two and you get a second ballot. From there, there's percentages you have to hit. To get a third ballot, you have to hit thirty-five in your first two, one of your first two. To get a fourth ballot, you have to hit at least fifty in one of your first three. And to get a fifth ballot, this is an updated rule. In the past, you had to get to seventy-five was that rule. Well 75 now gets you inducted automatically. So I've lowered that threshold to 65. So you have to get to 65% in your first four one of your first four ballots to stay on for a fifth. If somehow, and it's possible, you go five ballots without hitting 75%, you've exhausted your eligibil eligibility on the ballot and you're out. Also, I think pretty straightforward. Just gotta hit these thresholds to stay on the ballot. The only other one is is a if an act judge or host ⁓ reaches out and requests to be removed from the ballot, I will honor their request and remove them from the ballot. Hasn't happened yet. speaker-0: Yeah, but you know, the c the caveat is they have to come on and verbally request speaker-1: Yes. Th there's a there is a process. ⁓ you can't just you can't send a letter. You have to come on and and face to face ask to be removed from the ballot and then there'll be a ceremonial deleting of the name in that pod. ⁓ so the only three that have been on a ballot so far that have had that happen where they did not hit a threshold, were Michael Grimm, Kevin Skinner, and Joe Castillo fell off the ballot last year. ⁓ Castillo ⁓ all three of them never hit thirty-five in their first two. So Michael Grimm got thirty one point three on the first ballot, so he was darn close. ⁓ they then go to the legacy ballot, which is new. It's not starting this year, it'll start next year. Legacy ballot is if you fall off the ballot, you go to legacy ballot. If your eligibility for the main ballot's exhausted, you're eligible for the legacy ballot. We could put you on. Basically it's a second chance. Can kind of maybe write a wrong or two that we feel like is that. We'll get into that more next year when it actually happens, but ⁓ There'll be results this year that more than likely will impact next year's legacy ballot in terms of Axidal or or hosts and judges that'll move down, kind of get relegated to that ballot. So if you want more conversation about the legacy ballot, go back to ⁓ the end of year ten, our last pod last year. ⁓ I did a little bit more on that. Questions, thoughts, anything? speaker-0: No, I think that's a great explanation of it. ⁓ I'm ready to ready to hear who's on the ballot. speaker-1: Last thing before we get to the names. Okay. Sixteen have been inducted. Let's do a quick recap on who's in the Hall of Fame. Sure. Class of twenty twenty-five, Terry Fader, Darcy Lynn Shinlim were unanimous. Cody Lee V Unbeatable got fifteen ⁓ votes. Bianca Ryan, Matt Franco, the clairvoyants got fourteen out of sixteen votes. And then Grace Vanderwall and Paul Zerdon ⁓ got thirteen out of sixteen. So that's that was the first class, the first ten. Last year we inducted six more. Howie. Made it in on his first ballot, ⁓ fifteen out of twenty votes. Very emotional moment. And then we had ⁓ five that made it in on their second ballot. Light balance, Tom Cotter, Piff, Brian Justin Crum, and Owes Pearlman. So that is your sixteen, an illustrious group. There's some names here the of the twenty four we're about to talk about that are hoping to to make their way, ⁓ to make their way onto that ballot or on into that hall of fame. So speaker-0: Emotional moment. I d I did have one other one question. So the listeners may be wondering, what do the Hall of Famers receive? speaker-1: Ooh nothing. Yet. We'll see. ⁓ coo they get a lot of kudos, I know that. speaker-0: Yes, they get their name on a website. speaker-1: They get their name on a website, they get praise, they get immortality in a lot of ways. ⁓ so speaker-0: We we need some additional funding for them to actually speaker-1: Yeah, we yeah, we're not there yet. The Hall of Fame I could start a non profit of some sort. Is that sure? Would that make sense? Yeah. Something. ⁓ all right. Any other questions before we get into this ballot? All right. What do you think? Should we start with the t the seventeen that are coming back? That's probably what we should do. speaker-0: Let's do that. Yes. Yes. speaker-1: Let's do ⁓ most likely to least likely to be removed. So returning for their t their s both of these are returning for their second ballot. Both of them need to hit seventy five percent on this ballot to qualify for a third if they don't get inducted. Ryan D. Miller and Brandon Leake were on the ballot last year. They each got two votes last year, which was enough to keep ⁓ on by the skin of their teeth. So they got some work to do. Cody, I wanna just from a context standpoint talk about this with the assumption we're gonna have twenty votes again if we end up not. Whatever. So when you look at thirty-five, they need seven votes. ⁓ so they need a they need an uptick of five votes. Now, if we do twenty and we're adding two votes compared to last year, ⁓ we had ten votes, we're gonna have twelve this year. Forty extra votes to be passed around to the twenty four, so it's very possible. ⁓ thoughts on Brandon Lee, Ryan Neemiller's prospects do you think to hit seven votes this year? speaker-0: I think Ryan Neemiller's just probably a little bit better. Sure. I still don't think he'll get there, unfortunately. I think he's gonna get to five votes. speaker-1: Yeah, I think so too. That seems that seems reasonable. Okay. That seems reasonable. Yeah. ⁓ I I'm rooting for him, obviously. But I would say those two are highly likely legacy ballot moves, if I had to guess. ⁓ so those are the only two that haven't qualified for at least three ballots. Now some of the ones that have qualified for three ballots are on their third ballot, so they're in a similar spot to these two. The acts ⁓ qu ⁓ that have qualified for three ballots that are coming back. Olate dogs. And Angelica Hale are the two that have only qualified for three that are on their third ballot. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: Both have hit forty three point eight percent, they need to hit fifty to stay on. Last year was was a was a crapshoot. They got Olatte Dogs got two votes and Angelica Hill got five. So i I I I don't want to put a ton of stock into last year's to to try and predict for this year. Do you have any hope for the two of those to hit they need ten votes? speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: I would agree. I think she might. I I think she might. I I think I'm gonna vote for her. Again, I don't want to spill all the beans, but she's gonna be a heavy consideration for me. Yeah. I think I probably voted for her in the past. Okay. The other two that are have qualified for three ballots, have hit at least thirty five percent, are returning for their second ballot. So their first ballot was last year. They both got seven votes last year. They got exactly thirty five. Emily West, our runner up from season nine, and Simon Cow. Who has qualified for three. He feels like a name that might make a big jump this year, Cody. What's your thoughts on those two? They're good. They don't need to hit another threshold this year, but obviously the the higher you can get the better. speaker-0: Yeah, I think with Howie being on it last year, I think Howie probably got more of the votes than than Simon did. So I think with Simon being on there, he's probably gonna get those this year. speaker-1: Yeah, I would agree. ⁓ It'd be interesting. ⁓ the faster you can hit more thresholds. I don't know if I think Simon's a dark horse to get inducted, to be honest. ⁓ I would say I would say Emily West is not a dark horse to get inducted, but I do think there's a chance she could get ten ten votes and get another ballot. But speaker-0: Crazy. It's crazy that the creator of the show is not and the most popular not most popular, but most well known judge ever. Sure. May not get in the Hall of Fame. speaker-1: May not. It's a stretch. He's he's got three ballots already and he's only been on once. I I think he's in a good spot. Okay. I think that's what's gonna happen a lot as we go forward. These acts will get on or names will get on for the first time, they'll get thirty five, forty, fifty percent of the vote right away in the first couple of years and it'll slowly uptick and by ballot four they're hitting seventy five and getting in. I don't think we're gonna see a ton of first balloters the longer this goes. ⁓ kind of makes sense. every now and again I think one of the winners coming up maybe, but speaker-0: Okay. ⁓ speaker-1: Then we've got a whole host of acts that have qu ⁓ names that have qualified for four ballots. I'm gonna start with the current lowest average amount. So Landau Eugene Murphy Jr., our friend, hit fifty percent on the first ballot. Last year he had fifteen percent. So who knows? He's good he he can't fall off the ballot this year unless he gets less than two votes. So I'll my question for you is do you have any hope that he'll even get to seventy five out speaker-0: I don't think so, no. Yeah. speaker-1: Think ⁓ I think we'll see. I know Jay likes to vote for winners. Ryan, I think, factors in some winners, so we'll see. Yeah. ⁓ but okay. With him then ⁓ in the four ballot qualifiers. ⁓ so none of these are in danger of falling off this year outside of the first rule. Neely Boyd, another winner, ⁓ got ⁓ fifty percent as well on his first ballot. The late, great Neely Boyd. I would say I don't have a ton of hopes. He might get to sixty five and get a fifth ballot, but I ⁓ do you disagree? Seventy five seems like a lot for speaker-0: That's lot for him. Yeah. speaker-1: John Dornboss would be next. So he's back for his third ballot. Got fifty six point three on the first ballot, so he's cl I mean, he's sixty five is very much in range. Dark horse for s to get in at some point, Cody, where do you feel on on John Dornboss? speaker-0: It's a very possibility he'll get in at some point. Yeah. speaker-1: I want them to. I'd love John Dornboss. This is the one that I know you're gonna have thoughts on. These two, actually, because they ride together. Both of these are returning for their third ballot, qualified for four. They got 62 and a half. Both of them did on the first ballot, and they both got twenty five percent last year. And I have a theory on this that I'll do after I William Close and Zerkerow are back for their third ballot. speaker-0: Yeah, I need to. Yeah. speaker-1: Sixty two and a half down to twenty five. Crazy drop. Here's my here's my thought I want it's I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory. What is ⁓ what do their names start with? What letters? speaker-0: Z and W. speaker-1: Pretty low on the alphabet. Right. The ballot's alphabetical order. ⁓ I think what happened was there wasn't enough there was such a small amount of votes that people got through ten and then got down to the bottom and and never made it to the W's and the Z. speaker-0: Okay. Yeah. speaker-1: And we're like, I I like these ten. I think they might have been a victim of our alphabet. ⁓ speaker-0: Okay. I reversed the alphabet this year. speaker-1: I just been thinking about it, I'm like, I no matter whose last is has a last in the ballot has a disadvantage regardless of how you get there. I don't really know how to mitigate it. speaker-0: Did you put it in season order? speaker-1: Either way, but then you're yeah, I'd d if you're a ba if you're a voter and you're listening, look at the whole ballot before you press submit. But I think there's a possibility that they lost two or three or four votes last year just because of the alpha speaker-0: Yeah. Read all the questions before filling out the text. speaker-1: Yes. Yeah. I should make I should have some function on there. It's like when they click submit, be did you look at everybody? Yes. And then it goes through. ⁓ so we'll test that theory this year. If they tick way back up again, clearly there wasn't enough votes last year. But yeah, that's that's my one theory. The W and the Z is killing them. Yeah. If they were a Zercaro, yeah, they might be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. ⁓ I feel good about I feel better about Zirkero than William Close, but I feel pretty good about both of them. I don't know if you agree or disagree. speaker-0: I I agree. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Zerkero needs to be in hall. I I would say certainly. Okay. ⁓ another ⁓ another winner popping up here that is back for his third ballot, ⁓ qualifying for four. Kenichi Abina, our winner of season eight. His high is fifty six point three. But last year he stayed higher, so his average is a little higher than these other ones, but he hasn't quite hit the so he hasn't even hit the sixty-five yet. But fifty six point three la ⁓ two years ago, thirty-five percent last year. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: Right now on the ballot of returning winners, he's the only one that has a prayer, it feels like right now. There's everybody else below him. What what's your thoughts on Kanichi? speaker-0: I think a ⁓ AGT district needs to do some ⁓ some yes, yes, for Kiniti. Yeah. speaker-1: Some PR, yeah. I wouldn't mind him getting in. I have I don't mind anybody getting in. If the people think, then the people think. I I but I don't think I've voted for him yet. I might I might take a look at it this year. He is a good winner, but yeah. Okay. Topical for us, we just did our season thirteen rewatch. Mr. Brian King Joseph is back for his third ballot. He's hit sixty two and a half. So he's darn close to the fourth ballot threshold or the fifth ballot threshold. Another name I would really love, especially just getting done watching him again. Your thoughts on Brian King? speaker-0: No, I agree. I think it's and it's I think it's likely he's gonna get in. speaker-1: Yeah, I hope so. All right. ⁓ I'll skip over that one and come back to it. Our last third ballader that's qualified for four, ⁓ is Mr. Sal Valentinetti. We love Sal. Sixty two and a half percent on his first bout, forty percent last year. So even on a competitive bout, he stayed pretty high. I think we're now in the handful of names that are the most likely to get inducted based off of past performance. What do you think? Is is Sal getting in this year? speaker-0: I think it's I think it's highly likely that he is, yes. speaker-1: Yeah. People like how can you not love Sal? I know. The most likable, lovable guy. ⁓ would love to see him get the votes season eleven. And then the last one, returning for his second ballot, but hit fifty percent of the vote last year, so he's already qualified for four, Mr. Nick Cannon. This is the name I'm most excited to see what votes this guy gets. Are you voting for Nick, you think, Cody? speaker-0: I I yeah, and it's it's not like I have to choose between him or Simon. It'd be tough to kinda like if you had to pick one or the other, it'd be tough to figure out which one you're voting for. speaker-1: I would agree. ⁓ Yeah. He's just so good. Yeah. He needs to be in at some point. Cause if he's not, then no other hosts. And then maybe that's the case, but he needs I think has to be in. all right. Then there's two that are coming back who have qualified for five ballots. So these these two have their full eligibility secured. They're now looking to hit that seventy five percent. Stevie Star. Our professional regurgitator hit sixty five percent of the vote last year. He had fifty he was one of the I think there was only four that got more votes last year than they did the year before somehow. ⁓ I just don't know if he sh like if he gets in he gets in. And I love Professor Gerg there. But if I see him go in and like Sal doesn't, Nick doesn't, like first I love Stevie, but that seems fast. What do you think about T P speaker-0: No, I I mean we really like him. He's a one of one. I think you know, you gotta have somebody like him in the Hall of Fame. I think it's almost a disservice to the Hall of Fame not to have an act like Stevie Starr in there just because of his uniqueness. We've got to have something like that in there. speaker-1: I agree. Yeah. he's so gross. It's the best. ⁓ all right, and then we'll wrap here the ⁓ the other one again, the victim of the the bylaws actually has hit 75% before and is not in the hall of fame. Miss Jackie Vanko. What's she doing not in the Hall of Fame code? Right, right. I know y I know you love her. I'm imagining that she'll be a fast check ⁓ of her box ⁓ on the Hall of Fame. She she should be in the Hall of Fame. I'm a it's her and Nick are the two vote totals I'm 'cause she went down to fifty percent last year from seventy five. speaker-0: So like her appearance on AGT, she might just be a late appearance. speaker-1: Just shows up a little bit later than you think. Yeah that you think that the runner up would. ⁓ 'cause I'm like, I love Brian Justin Crumb, but he shouldn't have been in the Hall of Fame before Jackie Avanco. They both should be. So it doesn't again, we've talked about that. It doesn't really matter as long as you get in. Right. The ones we think that should be. But yeah. Okay. So the seventeen returning, Jackie Ivanko, Professional Regurgitator, Sal, Nick Cannon, Brian King, Joseph, Kenichi, William Close, Zerko, John Dorenboss, Neely Boyd, Simon Cowell, Emily West, Landau G. Murphy Jr., Angelica Hale, Latte Dogs, Brandon Leek, and Ryan Nee Miller. History says that probably f four to five of those names will be inducted next year, which is kinda this or this year, which is kind of exciting. Any other thoughts on our returning names? speaker-0: Latte dogs being that high seems ridiculous, but speaker-1: What do you mean that high? They're they have the third lowest average score. Average vote average vote total of the returners. Should be lower. Yeah. ⁓ all right. You ready for the seven cody? So we know the winner from season sixteen's gonna be here. We'll talk about that. Do you have any do you wanna throw out any predicted names off the top of your head? speaker-0: Yes. So from season sixteen, so from the C. ⁓ no, ⁓ no, I don't. I wanna be surprised. Okay. ⁓ 'cause there's no telling where this is gonna go. So let's just find out. Yeah. speaker-1: I think that's ⁓ I'm happy with that. Yeah seven names, five acts, two hosts slash judges. Okay. That is the list of seven. This was an unconsulted list. We have not ⁓ this was all me starting next year. Cody and I have started to do our ⁓ if you listen at the end of the spring last year, ⁓ we've started to do our ⁓ nominated committee meetings. So this is this is all me. There was one one that I really took a long hard look at and ended up picking one way over the other and I'll talk about that. But how do you want to do this, Cody? Do you wanna do it alphabetically? Do you wanna do it the seven or the five and then two? speaker-0: Well, I wanna do it season order. I wanna do it oldest and newest. speaker-1: What do you to with the hosts? It slash judges. speaker-0: ⁓ them at the end. Got it. speaker-1: Okay. I think I know the order of the seasons. I don't have the seasons written next to their names. ⁓ All right, here we go. Let me let me make sure I get the speaker-0: Yeah, and make sure you get who's finished fifth and third and speaker-1: Yeah. All right. We ⁓ we have a we have two runner-ups, runners up, runners up on this. We'll start with the oldest runners up, runner-up ⁓ making her first appearance on the ballot, obviously. The runner-up in season four. It is Miss Barbara Padilla, our opera singer. Jacob will be happy. We talked about last spring, runner-ups are runners up are really hard for me to leave off the ballot. speaker-0: Where's that? Jacob will be happy about that. speaker-1: She is very good. I have her 60th on my all time leaderboard. ⁓ I think she deserves her day in court. ⁓ she might get voted off this year. She might only make it two. She might get in. Let's find out what the people think. I think she's a good litmus test just for me. Mm-hmm. Being like, if she gets like no votes, all right, is where we at. So what do you think about the inclusion here of Barbara Padilla to her first ballot? speaker-0: I like it. After doing her rewatch with Jacob, I think it allowed us to do ⁓ get a fresh set of eyes and a fresh set of ears on her. And I think it's proper for her to be on this list 'cause it's definitely as a as a runner up, she does feel like she's deserving of to be on the list. speaker-1: I agree. ⁓ I'm fascinated on her. Again, some of these really old acts, not their age, but their their ⁓ their season. It is always hard to see. So we'll see. There's gonna be a there's gonna be voters that don't recognize her name, which is what it is. all right. speaker-0: If if you're curious, go listen to our Barbadia rewatch. speaker-1: If you're a voter and you're like, hmm, maybe use that to to do something. ⁓ okay. Congrats to Barbara Padilla. ⁓ she was running out of time to get on the main ballot. So ⁓ she she has secured her place at least onto a legacy ballot as well. So congrats to her. All right. Season five. speaker-0: Fourth play. Okay. speaker-1: Mr. Prince Poppycock makes his appearance on the ballot. ⁓ I was basically fighting between fighting is funny, between so Michael Graham has already fallen off the ballot. Jackie Ivanko is coming back with the most votes. That leaves the other two that we talked about in season five. And I was picking between Prince Poppycock and Fighting Gravity for this spot. I think I was right to put Prince Poppycock first, but ⁓ speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: You gotta be pumped to have a prince here on the ballot. speaker-0: Yes, I'm excited about this. I think you did I think you chose wisely. Thank you. ⁓ yes, ⁓ to make to put that on there or to put him on there. ⁓ we'll see what the voters do, because he's very ⁓ he's another one of these that's that that's an act that's that's well known, but also is very c I remember at the time being very controversial. ⁓ so there are a lot of people that didn't like him, a lot of people that loved him. So we'll just kind of see. speaker-1: Yeah, we I mean we love Prince Poppycock. We do. ⁓ happy to have him here. Yeah. ⁓ all right. You ready for the next one? speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: I had a spot here. I was trying to decide between two non-top five acts. Not that this spot was designated for them, but that's kind of what it ended up coming down to. I'm pretty selective on what not top five acts are going to make it on the ballot. We have one in the Hall of Fame, Piff. I kicked it around. I went back and forth and I settled on this. The top five fit or ⁓ bottom finalist in season thirteen, it is Miss Glennis Grace, is making her first appearance on the ballot. It was between her and Sophie Dossi. Cody. Okay. And I thought long and hard, and I just think Glennis Grace is better. I think Sophie Dossi is very much going to have her chance in the next couple years to be on it. Your thoughts on the inclusion for the first time here, Miss Glennis Grace? speaker-0: Yeah, I'm glad you were the one that had to make that decision because I'm not sure I would have. ⁓ I'm not sure I would have been able to make that decision. I think that's a very, very difficult decision to make between the two of them. ⁓ if I were to look at them probably side by side, if I had to evaluate, I personally probably would have put Sophie Dossi just because I think that the act is is different it's just so demonic. Yeah. It's so unique. It's it's more what I feel A G T is. ⁓ but I understand also how great and consistent. The disgrace is. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. I'm really interested. Emily West performed well last year. More votes than I thought she was going to get. So I'm interested to see. I Glennis is a similar a similar type act. Okay. Congrats to Glennis, season thirteen represented again. All right. That leaves two acts left, both from season sixteen, Cody, the newest eligible season. Let's just do the winner first because we know who it is. ⁓ it is ⁓ it is Mr. Dustin Tovella's chance to be on the ballot. The winner of season sixteen has to be here, Cody. You he won the show. I don't have a ton of high hopes for his ⁓ for his chances, but we'll see. What what are your thoughts on the first ⁓ the inclusion here of Mr. Dustin Tovella? speaker-0: I mean, it's almost an obligatory thing. You gotta put him on the list. ⁓ we'll see what see what happens. There are people I obviously love Dustin Tovella. ⁓ but there's again some issues of you know, how did he win? Questions of how did he win? Where do you get the votes from? So we'll just see what the voters do. But I if we if it wasn't because he was a winner, I don't know if he he'd ever appear on one of my lists. speaker-1: Brandon Leake last year. Dustin Tovello this year. I think are similar situations. Mm-hmm. Who who who would you if you had to pick one? Who's who are you voting for? right like one. Is one gonna do better than the other? speaker-0: Right. I if I think Brandon Leake would probably do better than Dustin Tavella. Okay. Fair enough. And I know he didn't do very Brandon Leek didn't do well. So yeah. Okay. Yes. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, got two votes last year. Yeah. I think he's gonna have a similar fate if I had to Congrats to Dustin Toveldo. Here he is. Yes. His day in court has come. Okay. Last act that's making ⁓ first appearance here, the runner up in season sixteen, the winner of all stars, pretty sure. Is that correct? Mr. Aiden Bryant, our aerialist. That's a good question. ⁓ he's awesome. He's an awesome aerialist. And I kicked it around if he deserved to be on in his first year of eligibility. I thought long and hard about it. I I think he does. His resume ends up being really good. He's a runner up in his season. Did he win? Did he win all stars, Cody? speaker-0: ⁓ still trying to figure that out. Let's see. ⁓ speaker-1: I think it's speaker-0: ⁓ no, Ramadani Brothers one. speaker-1: Was he He was second place in speaker-0: Fantasy fantasy league. He was in fantasy league and he was a finalist. speaker-1: Was he runner up in Fantasy League? speaker-0: Yeah. Ru i he was in fantasy league and Ramadani's eliminated him in the eliminated him in the finals. speaker-1: Using the finals, yeah. Yeah. So he's a finalist on a spinoff. He's runner up in his season. Solo aerialism has not actually done particularly great on this show over the years. Usually they want the trapeze duos, the acrobat duos. I think he belongs on a ballot. I think he's underrated as a runner up. I'm excited to have him here. speaker-0: Yeah, he did win all stars. So he won all stars, came back yeah, came back in fantasy league, got eliminated in the finals. Huge. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: His resumes ⁓ I mean, has done really yeah, he's I mean he's technically a winner. So yeah, your thoughts on on Aiden Bryant on his first year of eligibility. speaker-0: Yeah, no, I love this. I love this pick. I think he's great. ⁓ I I'm excited to see him on the ballot and we'll see what he does because I think this is a fantastic pick to have on the ballot. speaker-1: I think it will out outperform Dustin Develle if I had to guess. speaker-0: ⁓ yes, agreed. Now, will he get enough to be a first ballot? That's a big question. Perhaps. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Him or Sophie Dossi, who would you have put on this ballot? speaker-0: Him. Fair enough. speaker-1: Yeah. I agree. She's a finalist. That was her highest finish. So that's the five. Your thoughts on the overarching thoughts on those five. And speaker-0: It's a yeah, I think it's a good five. Dustin Develops the obligatory one. Yep. ⁓ but other than that, I think that's a great those are great picks. speaker-1: If you had to pick one to get in on their first ballot, if you had to predict if I said, Hey, one's getting in, who would you guess? I think so too. Yeah. Him him or Poppycock would probably be the two I would consider. Okay. That leaves us with two host judges. My guess is you're kind of intrigued to see these names are. First up speaker-0: ⁓ Aiden Bryant. Okay. I I am intrigued. Yes. speaker-1: Kind of the the made the show what it is. It is Piers Morgan. I th he has to be on a Hall of Fame ballot. Yeah. He's our first lead judge. He did it for six years. Really saw the show become what it is. Like he was there in the the trenches when we started and it looked like a rinky dink operation and and really turned it into, as a judge, was a main player in giving it kind of that true talent show feel. He's a great judge. He's got his flaws, certainly. But Set the tone for what the show is going to be. ⁓ I'm I I I can't wait to see what the voters do with Piers, your thoughts. speaker-0: Yeah, no, I I agree. I have him, z him, Simon, and Nick now on that list. So that'll be interesting to see how the voters go. speaker-1: I don't know if I see myself voting for him this year at all, but ⁓ we've talked about like I mean he's had it's been the Piers Morgan Memorial Good Judging Moment award at one point. Like he is he's the least fun lead judge we've had. He's not he's just a stick in the mud. But we kinda needed it 'cause the Hof was such was so slappy. Sharon was so, you know, kinda out there. So it ended up working. He's a straight man, he he he kept us he kept us sane. ⁓ speaker-0: Straight man. speaker-1: Okay. Congrats to Piers Morgan. Deserves to be here. He's a little d oozing chip. ⁓ Howard Stern is the other ⁓ addition to the ballot this year. This now puts all three lead judges on the ballot. Okay. Simon, Howard, and Piers can duke it out. ⁓ they've got their chance now to make their case. ⁓ speaker-0: Does this feel a little cheesy? speaker-1: Burn, he was a shooting star. Four years is all we got out of him. Uh-huh. He burned very warm and very fast, very bright. He's a great judge. You could very if you want to tell me there's never been a better pure judger, right? Howie's the greatest. Simon's the icon. But if you want to say the there's anybody who was the best that watched the performances and then gave their thoughts, if you want to tell me it's Howard Stern, I'm not going to disagree with you. No. Deserves to be here. Yeah, he was only here four years, but speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: He left a massive impact on the loves the show. speaker-0: He did. He did. And he loves the show. Loves the show. They they moved the show to New York City so that he could do So speaker-1: Yes. And also kind of was this perfect bridge from Peers to the modern era. Mm-hmm. We had the peers run, he comes in, the show gets a little more fun, the show gets a little more, you know, goofy, and it bridges bridges it right into the Simon era that kind of ended up being I think Simon is the perfect mix between the seriousness of peers as well as understanding what makes great TV like Howard did. And it it ends up being it ends up being that. So that's the seven new, Cody. Your your thoughts. Would you have put both Piers and Howard on this one? Would you have put either? speaker-0: No. I don't think I would have. I would have put one or the other. speaker-1: Fair enough. ⁓ speaker-0: 'Cause now we've got Nick, Simon we've got Nick, Simon, Pierce, and Howard all on there. So that's that's tough to pick from. speaker-1: Gotta earn it, Cody. Gotta earn it. ⁓ at the end of the day, you just need to hit some thresholds. That's all you need. You don't you don't need to get inducted this w this year. You just gotta you just gotta get some votes. ⁓ my guess is one of them is gonna get inducted this year. So then there'll only be three. I don't foresee more hosts and judges coming anytime soon to the main ballot. So got them on there. speaker-0: The only other one how the only other one's been Howie? speaker-1: Yeah. So we had three on last year, now we have four. So it's not unprecedented, but that's it. Dustin DeVella, Aiden Bryant, Barbara Perdia, Glendis Grace, Howard Stern, Piers, Morgan, and Prince Poppycock. That's the ballot, Cody. ⁓ that's your twenty four names that ⁓ that the voters, including yourself, will be as this is recording or as this ⁓ gets dropped, excuse me, I think I have it marked down that I will be sending out the ballots one week from ⁓ from the airing of this. So the voters will have a chance to listen a little bit, digest before they get their ballot. ⁓ and then they've got basically a week and a half to fill out their ballots according to my according to my calendar. ⁓ other thoughts you want to add on on this year's ballot? It's very exciting. It's always an exciting time of year. Yes. ⁓ all right. Let me do this. perfect. Okay. Really the only one that I I really took a long hard look at that didn't end up making it, like I said, was Sophie Dossy. ⁓ we did our we did our future considerations pod ⁓ last spring. Some of those names will be we'll be looking at for next year's ballot, and the legacy ballot will be here next year. So ⁓ this is kind of the last this will be the last ballot of the pure form original ⁓ Hall of Fame, one ballot. So ⁓ I'm looking forward to it. I think it's gonna end up being a similar size class. Four to seven names. I think we'll probably get inducted if that was my guess, but ⁓ anything else before we ⁓ we talk a little bit of what's coming up and then we'll we'll wrap it up and get ready for f full off season ahead, Cody. speaker-0: For a nope, let's ⁓ let's talk about what's coming up. All right. speaker-1: So here's kind of the plan. So last year, you'll recall, we did the ballot reveal and then we started our season five rewatch. We've we're we're editing that this year. So we did two full season rewatches last year. This year we're just planning to do one. We're doing one twelve episode rewatch instead of two tens. So we are going to next week, you are going to get episode one of season seven of the Agency Rewatchables. It is back. That is going to be the first thing that we start the off season with. The assumption is going to be about a ten episode season instead of eight this year that we had last year. You'll get the Hall of Fame. We're doing season fifteen rewatch. Cody is going to be ⁓ fascinating. A fascinating rewatch. ⁓ and then it's gonna be a bunch of miscellaneous some miscellaneous stuff to end. We'll have the Jeopardy or Who Wants to be an AGT millionaire type stuff. We'll do our ⁓ meeting of the committee again. ⁓ speaker-0: I'm excited for it. speaker-1: So it's gonna be a it's gonna be a full off season as far as far as we know. There's not any mid you know ⁓ spin off mid season stuff that we gotta worry about. ⁓ Cody and I we might do a ⁓ our top twenty five that we know of. So correct. Yes. ⁓ to fill to fill time. ⁓ our top twenty five app performances episode potentially this year, Cody. ⁓ so it's gonna be a fun off season. I'm excited, but ⁓ we don't know who the first speaker-0: we know of as of this recording. Correct. speaker-1: rewatchable is next week. ⁓ we would tell you if we knew. ⁓ but we will ⁓ we're gonna we're gonna rock that out. It's gonna be very fun. ⁓ any other ⁓ any other closing thoughts on on how this ⁓ how this off season is gonna rock and roll? speaker-0: To get ready for the season fifteen rewatch, go listen to our Selena Gray's ⁓ interview that we did with her and she'll fill in some of those gaps of ⁓ our background information from season fifteen. speaker-1: I might have to go back and re listen to that interview before we start recording that to to have a little ammo ⁓ in there. But ⁓ ⁓ I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I wanted to touch on on the on the Hall of Fame. I don't think so. speaker-0: Do we want to do our predictions? speaker-1: For this for ⁓ Well we kinda did. I think a win I think a singer's gonna win. What do you th what what talent do you think it's gonna speaker-0: Season twenty one. Okay. I mean I threw out magician, but I don't know if it'll be a magician. ⁓ I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with an ⁓ an an Ariel Act this year. I think a duo I think a duo aerial act is gonna win. speaker-1: Okay. Not not acrobat, more true aerial, you're saying. speaker-0: Cor correct, like a duo like a duo transcend type. I think if but if they do the I'm I'm just throwing this out. They do the roller skates, I'm still gonna count it. If more than half of their act is in the air Yes, of some sort. And it's a and it's specifically a duo act. speaker-1: Like that. Yep. I like that. I like that guess. ⁓ I think it'll be a fun season. ⁓ I'm I'm ⁓ it was a fun season. ⁓ no it it's ⁓ it's ⁓ always ⁓ always fun to ⁓ to get new names and stuff. Just think about this, Cody. Somebody just got done. Well, one, the winner, but even that, there's probably multiple names that we just we just got done watching that'll be on this ballot someday and it'll probably and might even be in the Hall of Fame someday. So there you go. speaker-0: Can you narrow down a little bit more than just singer? I think that's a little speaker-1: Mail. speaker-0: It'll be a male singer. That category's a little vague. So it'll be a male male singer. Okay. Solo male singer. speaker-1: Under forty years old. speaker-0: Okay, there you go. Perfect. There we go. speaker-1: Okay. Sub forty male singer. speaker-0: Forty as of the winner, as of winning. Yes. Okay. speaker-1: In their prob and probably in his twenties, if I had to guess. But we'll see. Okay. ⁓ I'm excited. Twelve votes. I'm ready to I'm ready to get my ballot in my hand. Yes. Do you want a hard copy this year or you just want to use the ⁓ Yeah, do you want a mailed hard copy? but all right. I think that's all I got, Cody. Great. We're ready for the off season. You can vote in person. Okay. That's that's allowed as well. I could set up booth. it's gonna be punch though, like the hanging chad. There could be you could have a hanging chad though. speaker-0: I want you to mail me a hard copy. Can I come vote in person? That'd be a great visual. And I want you to and I want you to check ⁓ all, make sure they're stuck. speaker-1: Yeah. ⁓ It's gonna fun six months coming up here. So ⁓ it's great to be back off season number eleven, Cody. We we we made it. Here we go. speaker-0: So can find us on our socials at AGT Time Pod. You can email us AGT timepod at gmail.com. You can find Commenter out there at AGT Commenter. Go check out our website, agt timepod.com. Are we putting the are we putting these on there? What not the ballot itself, but the root the the what we just revealed. This is the winners. We'll just have the winners out there. The abductees, yeah. Come come ⁓ next year. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So go go look at all that, ⁓ and then ⁓ let us know. Let us know your thoughts on that. Everyone, have a great night. speaker-1: ⁓ n no. The inductees.