Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 124 Summerslam 2026 review
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- 0:00Speaker 1: June Night, Summer Slam, Big, take it back to what we.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Do where we love it at.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Everybody sees the swagger, the success, the parisma. You can't
- 0:20Speaker 3: tease that far. But what they don't see is the
- 0:26Speaker 3: focus it takes to get here, every rep every sacrifice.
- 0:37Speaker 4: How do you think they get the.
- 0:38Speaker 5: Physiques that they do?
- 0:39Speaker 6: Raining hard like absolute animals.
- 0:43Speaker 2: You're putting in the work.
- 0:48Speaker 3: That's how you earn the right to walk through this tunnel,
- 0:51Speaker 3: and that's how every w w E superstar earned theirs.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if your tonne of least to a field
- 0:59Speaker 3: for a ring pressures on the.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Other side, head.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Heading a cell man, that's just different.
- 1:14Speaker 7: Two gladiators locked inside of the little statistic structure ever devised.
- 1:22Speaker 2: These are the moments you want. I don't want to
- 1:25Speaker 2: be cheap.
- 1:27Speaker 8: I need to be cheap.
- 1:31Speaker 2: The moments you worked for.
- 1:33Speaker 7: I went from the one who knocks to the one
- 1:35Speaker 7: they knocked for Bok's office affection, the.
- 1:38Speaker 6: Moments everybody remembers.
- 1:40Speaker 9: Your excitement is here, The mandamonium is here, the electricity.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Is This is where stars become highlights, not the mean and.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Cleaner so.
- 1:53Speaker 6: Destroying you great Green get in the.
- 1:56Speaker 10: Book of cleam up seen the simple.
- 2:02Speaker 5: We are in for a showdown in Minnesota.
- 2:05Speaker 10: Hiz up school, You're gonna sits Listen the.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Mortain words of everybody to Summersiven.
- 2:17Speaker 3: In my house.
- 2:22Speaker 9: Hey, this is w W E and ECW alumni the
- 2:24Speaker 9: Blue Meaning and you're listening to pc W.
- 2:29Speaker 11: The question is, oh, you let me.
- 2:38Speaker 10: Talk to I will give you a show like you
- 2:42Speaker 10: have never recovered been the portal?
- 2:44Speaker 6: Why? Because I can't.
- 2:47Speaker 8: What do you guys want to talk about?
- 3:00Speaker 10: H from the colored red in the world with a
- 3:04Speaker 10: black and white either of the world. Yeah, the cha?
- 3:29Speaker 8: What's that? Big man?
- 3:31Speaker 2: You got a big man? I'm mad? Whoa why it?
- 3:37Speaker 5: You know?
- 3:38Speaker 9: Black red? Back that one?
- 3:45Speaker 12: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, turn all just
- 3:56Speaker 12: Welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship
- 3:59Speaker 12: Wrestle and I am your host, Wayne also known as
- 4:01Speaker 12: Semi Dry Chicken.
- 4:02Speaker 6: Welcome back to another episode of this lovely, lovely review
- 4:07Speaker 6: of pro wrestling. It was long. There was a lot
- 4:12Speaker 6: of wrestling that went on through the weekend, and not
- 4:14Speaker 6: just WW but I just caught Summer Slam because I
- 4:17Speaker 6: was on vacation and the lengths I went to on
- 4:22Speaker 6: the road to try to watch night one, and boy
- 4:24Speaker 6: was it not worth it? Night too. Totally different story,
- 4:29Speaker 6: but we'll get into that and more with her post review.
- 4:33Speaker 6: Let me bring in the co host Here we go.
- 5:00Speaker 13: M hm.
- 5:04Speaker 6: M dre welcome back, yo yo?
- 5:17Speaker 2: What they do? Pc W crew?
- 5:20Speaker 6: Alright, what are you eating this episode?
- 5:23Speaker 2: Frozen pizza?
- 5:26Speaker 6: Is it? Is it?
- 5:30Speaker 10: No?
- 5:30Speaker 6: Not delivering? Is it? As?
- 5:32Speaker 5: Is it?
- 5:32Speaker 6: AliOS is a good one. It's an old ass one?
- 5:35Speaker 6: Is it a tombstone? Uh?
- 5:40Speaker 5: No?
- 5:41Speaker 6: Is it leftover pizza from a place you went out
- 5:45Speaker 6: to go?
- 5:45Speaker 10: Yet?
- 5:47Speaker 2: That's for shadow for sure?
- 5:49Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I had a couple more. How I keep going?
- 5:53Speaker 6: But I would have gone and eventually, all right, let's
- 5:55Speaker 6: bring out o the co hosts. Here we go, Duel
- 6:33Speaker 6: welcome back.
- 6:36Speaker 5: Oh it's me, It's me, It's the Oyle. I'm gonna
- 6:40Speaker 5: think up something to do about that song.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Man.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I still really like the song, but it seems like
- 6:45Speaker 4: the office is kind of starting to sour a little
- 6:47Speaker 4: bit on soul Ruka and frankly so am I?
- 6:51Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, damn shame? All right? And last but not least,
- 7:00Speaker 6: this is in my head.
- 7:01Speaker 9: The accounts from me, they understand. Thanks you, Jo, all
- 7:19Speaker 9: designed to keep you.
- 7:24Speaker 6: All right, Taler, welcome back, Thank you for having me.
- 7:27Speaker 14: How's everybody doing?
- 7:28Speaker 2: Oh?
- 7:29Speaker 6: You know, I I think we have just as many errors,
- 7:34Speaker 6: you know, audio video errors as as w W. Does
- 7:38Speaker 6: you know during Summer Slam, you know.
- 7:43Speaker 5: I like misselling the word commercial commercial.
- 7:46Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, Mikyle, I think, yeah, yeah, whoops it do.
- 7:56Speaker 5: So?
- 7:58Speaker 6: Uh yeah, dude, what a what a exciting two nights?
- 8:03Speaker 2: Uh.
- 8:04Speaker 6: I totally forgot about it when I was on my
- 8:06Speaker 6: trip and I was like, oh shit, you know Summer
- 8:09Speaker 6: slams playing. I was like, well, fuck it, We're we're
- 8:11Speaker 6: on the road at the time. So I brought it
- 8:13Speaker 6: up on my phone, uh you know, being a pirate
- 8:18Speaker 6: out in the open seas, you know, using using what
- 8:21Speaker 6: I had. But I was able to watch it. Uh.
- 8:25Speaker 6: It kept I'll say it kept me occupied. It wasn't
- 8:29Speaker 6: as exciting as I say. Night two was which I
- 8:33Speaker 6: made home just in time, like within an hour. I
- 8:36Speaker 6: made it home just to watch it on the big screen.
- 8:39Speaker 6: So whish I'm glad I did, because I think I
- 8:42Speaker 6: would have been kind of bummed experiencing some of night
- 8:46Speaker 6: too inside a car by myself, well not really by myself,
- 8:50Speaker 6: because me and my girlfriend. But still it was nice
- 8:53Speaker 6: when there was people around for certain things and oh,
- 8:58Speaker 6: we're not this guy, we're here this guy.
- 9:02Speaker 5: Now where you buy yourself or your girlfriend?
- 9:05Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 9:05Speaker 5: No, my girlfriend sus in Canada at the time, but.
- 9:08Speaker 6: M hm, her identity secret because I don't want her
- 9:18Speaker 6: enemies to know and my enemies to know or what's
- 9:21Speaker 6: that thing? Spider Man says, I don't want my enemies
- 9:23Speaker 6: to know.
- 9:24Speaker 5: Better not broadcast, that's that?
- 9:26Speaker 6: Yeah right? Uh uh Hey, speaking of uh Spider Man,
- 9:33Speaker 6: I saw for the I don't know first time in
- 9:36Speaker 6: a while, a Street Fighter uh trailer. I got to
- 9:40Speaker 6: see what Roman Reigns look like, see what uh Jason
- 9:43Speaker 6: Momoa look like. I'll be honest with you, I don't
- 9:47Speaker 6: know anything about Street Fighter. I was more of a
- 9:49Speaker 6: moral Kombat guy. But I'm gonna go anyway. You know,
- 9:54Speaker 6: I want to see Cody Roads and Roman Reigns the
- 9:57Speaker 6: same movie should be u uh, I don't know, maybe exciting.
- 10:02Speaker 6: Should I have high hopes? Anybody anybody street Fighter fan?
- 10:08Speaker 5: I would probably never see that movie really.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Say that of the franchise?
- 10:16Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, are you guys fan?
- 10:18Speaker 8: Like?
- 10:18Speaker 6: Is it enough to get you to go thears. Now
- 10:20Speaker 6: that wrestlers are in it is even more enticing. No ship, Okay.
- 10:25Speaker 13: I'm a big fan. I'm a fan of the games
- 10:27Speaker 13: in the franchise. I mean I grew up on Street Fighter,
- 10:30Speaker 13: used to play the hell out of that ship. But
- 10:32Speaker 13: nothing about that trailer or anybody in it in any way, shape, form,
- 10:38Speaker 13: or fashion makes me want to go spend money to
- 10:41Speaker 13: see it.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I'll catch it on.
- 10:44Speaker 13: Streaming maybe on the day when on board, but to
- 10:47Speaker 13: leave my house and go spend money to see this no,
- 10:52Speaker 13: tan Well unless that thing gets like insanely rave reviews right.
- 10:58Speaker 6: Oh, it's tracking right behind the Odyssey or tracking you know,
- 11:05Speaker 6: numbers like Supergirl. So yeah, speak speaking of prices and numbers. Uh,
- 11:13Speaker 6: SmackDown is coming to uh the stadium Dix Fanity Mobile Arena.
- 11:19Speaker 6: It's well where the old Wells Fargo name was. Now
- 11:22Speaker 6: it's expanding mobiles this month. Yes, many names, but well
- 11:27Speaker 6: we were there for yeah. I was there the night
- 11:33Speaker 6: after WrestleMania forty for you know, the raw Termania have
- 11:36Speaker 6: been at Wells Fargo a couple of times. I considered
- 11:39Speaker 6: the Wells Fargo but whatever s Fanny Mobile Arena. I
- 11:43Speaker 6: guess that's where all my fucking money goes when I
- 11:45Speaker 6: paid for myke sfanity bill, huh goes for that arena.
- 11:48Speaker 6: So now I'm a paying customer. But uh seats the
- 11:53Speaker 6: chiefest they got right now, Yeah, the chiefest seats they
- 11:57Speaker 6: have section two eleven. If Doyle, if you and me
- 12:03Speaker 6: were to sit in the very back or you mean Tyler, right,
- 12:06Speaker 6: we sit in the very back wall, you know, against
- 12:09Speaker 6: the back of the wall. That's fifty bucks a person. Yeah,
- 12:13Speaker 6: and you know what, Uh, Dave Foster who's been on here,
- 12:17Speaker 6: me and him have done that. We've we've like bought
- 12:20Speaker 6: tickets last minute and we just like, screw it, We'll
- 12:23Speaker 6: sit all the way at the top, you know, and more.
- 12:26Speaker 6: Actually you thought, yeah, I thought it would be more
- 12:29Speaker 6: as well. But it wasn't.
- 12:31Speaker 4: Bad there for hockey and for basketball, and it's really
- 12:35Speaker 4: not trocious.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Too many bad seats in that.
- 12:39Speaker 2: Place, right.
- 12:42Speaker 6: Right, It's just the arena is not that big to
- 12:45Speaker 6: have a bad seat, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
- 12:50Speaker 6: like I see ones that are like near the aisle
- 12:52Speaker 6: that are opened, you know, and there's nobody sitting in
- 12:54Speaker 6: front of them. You know, you just gotta be kind
- 12:55Speaker 6: of wise, So I probably pick one where there's nobody
- 12:58Speaker 6: else sitting around me. It's like stretch my legs. Uh Jesus,
- 13:03Speaker 6: I mean I was thinking about it. I was like, hey,
- 13:04Speaker 6: you want to make you want.
- 13:06Speaker 5: To talk about numbers?
- 13:07Speaker 6: Uh?
- 13:07Speaker 5: Did you notice there was a number this weekend?
- 13:09Speaker 14: But we did not hear attendance.
- 13:11Speaker 5: And that was the attendance.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Oh.
- 13:15Speaker 5: I always want to brag. I always want to brag
- 13:17Speaker 5: about how many people and.
- 13:18Speaker 2: How many you know?
- 13:20Speaker 5: Not a peep about it this way again?
- 13:23Speaker 6: Oh, does anybody want to look up the real numbers
- 13:26Speaker 6: for that? I think they were under forty thousand. Oh wait,
- 13:29Speaker 6: I got it right here.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Really definitely under forty Night one.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Night one had more than Night two, which is never happened.
- 13:36Speaker 6: Thirty six thousand, six hundred and eighty three people. Night
- 13:39Speaker 6: two is three thirty three thousand, eighty six combined sixty
- 13:43Speaker 6: nine thousand, seven hundred and sixty nine. Hey, most of
- 13:46Speaker 6: those people probably were brock less. Uh, friends and family.
- 13:55Speaker 13: Summer, Yeah, both nights and Summer Slam cleared one night
- 14:02Speaker 13: of WrestleMania a few years ago.
- 14:04Speaker 6: Right, So it's like, is this worth containing? Is this? Yeah?
- 14:09Speaker 6: These two nice worst? Like Okay, So if we were
- 14:13Speaker 6: to take this card and say we shorten it, right,
- 14:16Speaker 6: we had eight matches. Do you think we could do
- 14:19Speaker 6: eight matches one night? You know, we we keep like
- 14:23Speaker 6: uh title matches, you know, uh yeah.
- 14:29Speaker 1: I mean you could lose the women's three way or
- 14:32Speaker 1: six six women match.
- 14:33Speaker 5: I think you could lose Dom, Dan House.
- 14:35Speaker 6: And oh l A Knight solo Broyce. Two more matches, Yeah,
- 14:41Speaker 6: gunca versus all this, get rid of that.
- 14:45Speaker 5: Yeah, I might have got that. That could have been
- 14:47Speaker 5: a sack Town.
- 14:48Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know we've got to keep Dan Housing
- 14:52Speaker 6: versus Dom right.
- 14:57Speaker 5: Savage?
- 14:58Speaker 6: Yeah, well money yeah. Yeah. So let's let's go through these.
- 15:04Speaker 6: Let's let's let's go through uhh dre uh through this
- 15:09Speaker 6: Summer Slam. We're gonna do both nights together because we
- 15:13Speaker 6: discussed on discord if we were gonna separate it, you know,
- 15:17Speaker 6: like we were, we were gonna treat it like it
- 15:20Speaker 6: was a WrestleMania, where wrestle Media gets two nights, you know,
- 15:23Speaker 6: to two episodes. But the Summer Slam wasn't even worth it.
- 15:28Speaker 6: The fact that there's certainly didn't they didn'tamia they didn't.
- 15:32Speaker 6: They they didn't, And you know, maybe because it wasn't
- 15:37Speaker 6: backed by blood money, you know, but uh yeah, maybe
- 15:43Speaker 6: if Summer Slam wasn't Saudy Bees different. But we'll see,
- 15:48Speaker 6: all right, right, take it away.
- 15:51Speaker 13: All right, So we've all switched the format up a
- 15:54Speaker 13: little bit this time around because you can't tell from
- 15:57Speaker 13: our discussion already, this show really ain't worth talking about
- 16:01Speaker 13: on a match by match basis.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Some of these matches just.
- 16:04Speaker 13: Simply weren't worth it, So we ain't gonna waste our
- 16:08Speaker 13: time or y'all's on them. Instead, we'll just go around
- 16:12Speaker 13: in a round table discussion and each of us will
- 16:14Speaker 13: just bring up one thing from the show that stood
- 16:18Speaker 13: out for us, good or bad, and we'll just keep
- 16:22Speaker 13: continuing that until we've talked. We feel we've talked about
- 16:26Speaker 13: everything or covered everything we want to cover. So I'll
- 16:30Speaker 13: start off with one thing that's jumped out to me
- 16:35Speaker 13: or that's one thing of note from this show.
- 16:39Speaker 2: And for me, I'm not saying it's the biggest thing.
- 16:43Speaker 13: I'm not saying it's the worst thing or any particular order,
- 16:45Speaker 13: but just the one thing that immediately jumps out to
- 16:48Speaker 13: me and it comes to my mind is a beautiful
- 16:53Speaker 13: moment ruined by money. You know what I'm talking about,
- 17:01Speaker 13: But the moment I'm talking about is Chad Gable winning
- 17:05Speaker 13: the Intercontinental Championship from Penza in his hometown in Minnesota.
- 17:12Speaker 13: Tears in his eyes, literally sitting in the corner crying
- 17:15Speaker 13: when he won it because he's so overcome with emotion,
- 17:19Speaker 13: brings his family out into the ring. His son is
- 17:23Speaker 13: dressed up in wrestling gear like his dad, gets the mic,
- 17:28Speaker 13: introduces him, talks.
- 17:30Speaker 2: To the people.
- 17:31Speaker 13: Everybody is loving it, and then here comes this random
- 17:36Speaker 13: roop Beard dog motherfucker with goddamn cann of root Beard
- 17:41Speaker 13: talking to Chad Gable like he suddenly stonkled Steve Auston
- 17:45Speaker 13: trying to get him to chug him, and he's danging
- 17:47Speaker 13: over the rope like yeah, Like what in the entire
- 17:53Speaker 13: fuck was that? Like just completely ruin a beautiful moment
- 17:59Speaker 13: with corporate fucking greed, And.
- 18:03Speaker 4: Like the whole time, I'm thinking, oh my god, it's
- 18:06Speaker 4: like I'm hoping.
- 18:07Speaker 5: I guess I shouldn't say he.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Was gonna take the helmet off or the mask, and
- 18:10Speaker 4: it would be Ludwig Kaiser or something, you know, not
- 18:13Speaker 4: going to the Americano. It would be a Ludwig Kaiser
- 18:16Speaker 4: you know, and like they were gonna run an angle with.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Him or something. I thought, Oh, a chance for something interesting.
- 18:20Speaker 4: Nope, well you know, why couldn't that have been backstage
- 18:24Speaker 4: or not happened at all? Or I mean, I fucking
- 18:30Speaker 4: even if they could have done that to all this,
- 18:32Speaker 4: you know, that would have been less offensive.
- 18:35Speaker 5: But it's just like, yeah, I mean in this era
- 18:39Speaker 5: where everything is a moment, we make moments, they sucking
- 18:43Speaker 5: they get one and they fucking ruin it.
- 18:47Speaker 13: Literally, nothing is sacred. Everything is for sale, and it
- 18:51Speaker 13: doesn't matter what the fuck is. If somebody's got enough cash,
- 18:55Speaker 13: they can have a sponsor spot or a moment or
- 18:58Speaker 13: whatever the fuck they want if they throw enough money
- 19:01Speaker 13: in t k O's pocket.
- 19:05Speaker 4: Yeah, and moreover, it was not only was it a
- 19:07Speaker 4: good moment, it was a good match. My problem with
- 19:09Speaker 4: the matches why it was only ten, ten eleven minutes?
- 19:12Speaker 4: You know, like why you get you get this two
- 19:15Speaker 4: night show. The whole point of the fucking thing is
- 19:17Speaker 4: to let things breathe, right, and you only give this,
- 19:20Speaker 4: you know, like why not fifteen sixteen minute? It doesn't
- 19:23Speaker 4: need thirty like the main events got, you know, but
- 19:26Speaker 4: when why not fifteen minutes.
- 19:29Speaker 5: You wouldn't have wanted five more minutes of that, you know, like.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Mask match, Yeah, you know.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Like you look at Cable and he's already had a
- 19:40Speaker 4: match in the year, candidate.
- 19:42Speaker 2: This year.
- 19:43Speaker 4: You look at Pentz down it you feel like he
- 19:45Speaker 4: could have one at any time, and you look at
- 19:48Speaker 4: them together and say, holy fuck, on a huge stage,
- 19:50Speaker 4: Gables hometown, He's finally gonna win the Icy title, Like
- 19:53Speaker 4: this is gonna be a big epic. It was a
- 19:55Speaker 4: good match tour, but it could have been a fucking
- 19:58Speaker 4: great match if you gave a little more time.
- 20:01Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 20:04Speaker 2: It had show stealing potential written all over it.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
- 20:09Speaker 13: And they just didn't give him enough time to cook
- 20:11Speaker 13: and had to squeeze in a fucking root Beer mascot, Like,
- 20:16Speaker 13: first of all, does root Beer even need a mascot?
- 20:22Speaker 5: Well, you know, why can't he go out for Dan
- 20:24Speaker 5: Housen or something, you know that makes sense a little.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Bit like Sprite, Coca Cola, Dr Pepper, Pepsi.
- 20:33Speaker 13: All of them been getting by just fine for years
- 20:35Speaker 13: without fucking mascots, But somehow Beer suddenly needs a fucking mascot.
- 20:42Speaker 13: And then Mike and then I don't know if it
- 20:44Speaker 13: was Michael cole or or Corey Graves or which I
- 20:46Speaker 13: want to have the corny ass line at the end,
- 20:48Speaker 13: Chad Gable, he's got that dog in him.
- 20:52Speaker 6: Shut up, you missed that ship.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Oh my god, shut the fuck up. Like clearly they
- 21:04Speaker 2: were paid to say that line, right, Like, fuck that
- 21:10Speaker 2: whole moment, great match.
- 21:11Speaker 13: But at the end, So Wayne, let's go throw it
- 21:17Speaker 13: to you now. So what's uh one moment from SummerSlam
- 21:21Speaker 13: that stood out to you?
- 21:22Speaker 2: Oh?
- 21:23Speaker 6: Man, dude, come on, Uh Chelsea Green being the intern intern,
- 21:30Speaker 6: which I fucking hate Intern w W Women's Champion. I mean,
- 21:35Speaker 6: the whole idea is is fucking silly. But at the
- 21:39Speaker 6: end of the day, where we where we are. I
- 21:43Speaker 6: I've fucking marked out in my house, dude, Like you know,
- 21:46Speaker 6: I was just happy. Like we were, me and Tyler
- 21:49Speaker 6: sitting there. We're like, okay, well, you know, uh, they're
- 21:52Speaker 6: not going to give Tiffany Strandon a second belt, right, No,
- 21:56Speaker 6: I definitely don't think they're gonna do two belt Tiffany.
- 21:59Speaker 6: And then we're like, okay, well, Charlotte is probably the
- 22:02Speaker 6: safest bet, but I was like, but she's too busy
- 22:06Speaker 6: feuding with Jane and it you went, you don't even
- 22:10Speaker 6: need a title involved in that. And then we both
- 22:12Speaker 6: looked and then we're like and lash legend is like
- 22:15Speaker 6: just too green to just to you know what, I
- 22:18Speaker 6: mean to have the title right now. And then we
- 22:20Speaker 6: both looked at each other like like, oh, that leaves
- 22:23Speaker 6: Chelsea greed and uh, you know, just the excitement of
- 22:28Speaker 6: her getting so close and then that whole dude, how
- 22:31Speaker 6: the fuck did Chelsea not pass out hanging out? I know,
- 22:35Speaker 6: if I wasn't hanging upside down that long, I would
- 22:37Speaker 6: to pass out. Uh, you know, just that last few
- 22:41Speaker 6: minutes there, you know, because everybody expects Chelsea's in the
- 22:47Speaker 6: match too. She did, yeah, and everyone expects her to
- 22:51Speaker 6: be in that match, to go through stuff like go
- 22:54Speaker 6: through tables, fall off ladders. And she said to herself,
- 22:57Speaker 6: stop recommending me for ladder matches. I don't like doing those.
- 23:00Speaker 6: They scare me. But uh, you know, and you know,
- 23:03Speaker 6: Matt Caronona was sitting in the front row. Her sister
- 23:06Speaker 6: was in the front row, so you know, that was
- 23:09Speaker 6: awesome for them to see. And you know, I who
- 23:15Speaker 6: knows where it's gonna go, But I think deep down
- 23:17Speaker 6: we know it's probably gonna be a short run. But
- 23:19Speaker 6: the fact is, whether you're only up there for a
- 23:23Speaker 6: few minutes or for a few months, for a few weeks, whatever,
- 23:27Speaker 6: you're at the top of the mountain right now. You know,
- 23:30Speaker 6: she got to go home with that title, and that's
- 23:33Speaker 6: she's officially a w W Women's champion. You know, it's done.
- 23:38Speaker 6: It's you know, it's funny because last year, I think
- 23:41Speaker 6: she was the United States and Tiffany was the Women's Champion,
- 23:45Speaker 6: so they kind of swapped places here, and this whole time,
- 23:49Speaker 6: you know, we're thinking that she's eyeing up the United
- 23:51Speaker 6: States title. Oh when when is one of them gonna
- 23:54Speaker 6: turn on each other because the United States titles always
- 23:56Speaker 6: there this whole time, you know, kind of the pass
- 24:00Speaker 6: that I went around and uh yeah, I'm just excited
- 24:03Speaker 6: to see where this goes. It was just a fun
- 24:06Speaker 6: moment and just certain other people will talk about who
- 24:10Speaker 6: won matches, who won titles for the first time. You know,
- 24:14Speaker 6: we talked on Chad Gable, which was you know, in
- 24:18Speaker 6: his hometown's great. You know, I've been I've just been
- 24:25Speaker 6: surprised that it's taken this long, you know, for for
- 24:28Speaker 6: Chad to get a single title. But he sits there
- 24:31Speaker 6: and he mentions, you know, the other gimmicks that he had,
- 24:37Speaker 6: you know, Shorty G. You know, do you guys, do
- 24:41Speaker 6: you guys remember the Shorty G gimmick? God? And we
- 24:47Speaker 6: stuck her, right, but we stuck around, and you know what,
- 24:52Speaker 6: Like there were several times where I thought he would
- 24:54Speaker 6: have gotten let go, you know, when they were they
- 24:58Speaker 6: were cutting people. I thought he definitely would have been
- 25:00Speaker 6: one of them, especially with the Shorty Chee gimmick not working.
- 25:03Speaker 6: And you know a lot of times he's compared to like, uh,
- 25:09Speaker 6: the next generation, like maybe Kurt Angle and uh, you
- 25:14Speaker 6: know this is this is maybe where the ball gets
- 25:16Speaker 6: rolling for him, finally that he finally found a gimmick
- 25:20Speaker 6: that works for him. You know, maybe I don't know
- 25:23Speaker 6: about the theme music. I'm still not hooked on the
- 25:25Speaker 6: theme music. Uh. Yeah, I don't know what to do
- 25:30Speaker 6: about the theme music. Do you go back to his
- 25:31Speaker 6: alpha Academy music? You know, what do you what do you?
- 25:35Speaker 6: Where do you go with?
- 25:37Speaker 10: Right?
- 25:37Speaker 6: Like, I don't know.
- 25:40Speaker 13: I think you give it time a more over. I
- 25:42Speaker 13: think the theme is gonna catch on to people. Yeah, yeah,
- 25:45Speaker 13: I actually don't have a problem with it.
- 25:47Speaker 6: Yea.
- 25:48Speaker 13: Yeah, Chelsea Green was definitely a bright spot right this weekend.
- 25:54Speaker 13: I would I could not have been happier to be
- 25:56Speaker 13: wrong in the fact that she came out because I
- 25:58Speaker 13: thought they were gonna play with either Charlotte or Jade,
- 26:02Speaker 13: because obviously, if you do an interim champion, eventually the
- 26:06Speaker 13: quote unquote real champions is gonna come back, and then
- 26:08Speaker 13: they got a fight to determine who's the me who's
- 26:12Speaker 13: the one true champion. And I just didn't think there
- 26:15Speaker 13: was any chance in hell of them doing Rea versus
- 26:18Speaker 13: Chelsea Green as a champion in a championship match. If
- 26:22Speaker 13: they do it in this you know, big match, safe
- 26:25Speaker 13: t ko era, they're gonna go with where the money's at,
- 26:28Speaker 13: which is re versus Jade again or re versus Charlotte again.
- 26:33Speaker 2: So for them to.
- 26:34Speaker 4: Go with Sammy Askue run.
- 26:38Speaker 5: Now, you know, like she can show.
- 26:42Speaker 13: With Chelsea before comes back, that's still on you know what,
- 26:46Speaker 13: that is still on the table. But yeah, yeah, I mean,
- 26:51Speaker 13: as happy as we are for the moment we just
- 26:55Speaker 13: saw with Sam's a, you know, we've got to hold
- 26:58Speaker 13: our breath for a little while to see how they're
- 27:01Speaker 13: gonna play this out. How legitimate are they gonna treat this,
- 27:03Speaker 13: this title run?
- 27:05Speaker 6: I mean, they're also is they're doing the same thing
- 27:08Speaker 6: with us. They're they're testing out the wader how we
- 27:10Speaker 6: feel about this, because when Sammy won that title, the
- 27:14Speaker 6: Internet was not happy about it, and they they probably oh,
- 27:18Speaker 6: ship like like we thought you wanted this, Like.
- 27:21Speaker 13: But you know the way the internet was that mad.
- 27:23Speaker 13: I never I didn't see outrage from the Internet. I
- 27:25Speaker 13: saw shocked and surprise, But I didn't see anybody mad
- 27:28Speaker 13: that Sammy won.
- 27:30Speaker 6: I mean, there was a lot of other There was
- 27:33Speaker 6: like some people another podcast saying like that he's not
- 27:37Speaker 6: the guy, like he's not God damn. I'm trying to
- 27:41Speaker 6: think of some of the other former.
- 27:44Speaker 5: In the opinion you want if you're gonna look for
- 27:46Speaker 5: it exactly.
- 27:48Speaker 6: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
- 27:49Speaker 2: That I have always felt that way about him, and they.
- 27:52Speaker 6: Were exactly it's probably about.
- 27:54Speaker 13: Him whether he wanted you know, at that show or
- 27:56Speaker 13: at WrestleMania next year, they would always feel he's not
- 27:58Speaker 13: quote unquote the guy.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Right.
- 28:01Speaker 6: It's probably people in my algorithm, like Cornett my algorithm.
- 28:04Speaker 6: I got, Kevin Nash my algorithm. You know guys who
- 28:07Speaker 6: were just talking down on certain people. It's probably why.
- 28:11Speaker 5: In my algorithms.
- 28:13Speaker 4: In my algorithms, uh, Phil and Cody gets shut on
- 28:17Speaker 4: all the time, and Roman and uh sets are kind
- 28:20Speaker 4: of universally praised. But you know, we just said the
- 28:23Speaker 4: attendance numbers like Phil and Cody drew more people than
- 28:27Speaker 4: Seth and uh Roman did you know so like the
- 28:31Speaker 4: Internet isn't real life?
- 28:34Speaker 5: Maybe the take.
- 28:34Speaker 13: Off immediately and brought but yeah, true they had that,
- 28:42Speaker 13: they had that assist from him.
- 28:43Speaker 4: But yeah, but I thought, I mean, I thought moreover,
- 28:46Speaker 4: this was a pretty well put together match.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Uh.
- 28:49Speaker 5: A lot of story beats on it. You know. They
- 28:52Speaker 5: they did the jade teasing, the kind of tea they
- 28:55Speaker 5: tease that. Uh.
- 28:56Speaker 4: But when when uh, I guess it was Tiffany Knockna
- 29:00Speaker 4: over Chelsea went to the table.
- 29:01Speaker 5: Was that what happened? They kind of teased that, but
- 29:03Speaker 5: the other way around that was kind of cool.
- 29:05Speaker 4: Yeah, last looked like she belonged in there, which is
- 29:09Speaker 4: kind of nice.
- 29:10Speaker 5: Uh.
- 29:10Speaker 4: Although they almost killed before Tiffany, uh coming out she
- 29:16Speaker 4: way overshot. I guess I think it might have been
- 29:18Speaker 4: when when Chelsea knocked her over and she goes flying
- 29:21Speaker 4: flipping out of the ring and.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Nobody catch.
- 29:27Speaker 3: Uh.
- 29:27Speaker 5: But I thought this was this is one of the
- 29:29Speaker 5: this matches.
- 29:30Speaker 4: I mean, in as much as Chelsea women was highlight,
- 29:32Speaker 4: this match in general was one of the better matches
- 29:34Speaker 4: of the weekend.
- 29:35Speaker 13: I thought almost fucked up Charlotte too when she was
- 29:38Speaker 13: dangling from the belt ye Jaden down there, Yeah, they
- 29:44Speaker 13: almost didn't catch her.
- 29:45Speaker 2: I was like, oh not on those.
- 29:46Speaker 6: These yeah, but they chose the two right people to
- 29:50Speaker 6: catch her, you know, to the taller women, sure, right, right,
- 29:54Speaker 6: So I was like, who that could have gone really bad.
- 29:58Speaker 6: But it's good spot though, good spot.
- 30:01Speaker 13: But I will I'll throw this out there to y'all though,
- 30:04Speaker 13: because doll, you just shared that I think you shared
- 30:08Speaker 13: in a discord that Rea posted that she's having that
- 30:11Speaker 13: she had surgery, implying that she ain't coming back no
- 30:16Speaker 13: time soon, which means I mean.
- 30:19Speaker 5: At least a couple of months, right.
- 30:22Speaker 13: Right, Which means, in my opinion, they should take the
- 30:26Speaker 13: the interim moniker off of Chelsea Green's title and just
- 30:30Speaker 13: say she's the women's champion now, right, Trying to deal
- 30:34Speaker 13: with months of them saying interim women's champion, interiom women's champion,
- 30:38Speaker 13: interim champion and them saying that ad nauseum for months
- 30:42Speaker 13: on end until This is.
- 30:46Speaker 4: The first time WWE has done this as far as
- 30:49Speaker 4: I can recall, but there is precedent in other places
- 30:52Speaker 4: where they've had interim championship specifically boxing and a w
- 30:57Speaker 4: where sometimes after a certain period of time, the interim
- 31:01Speaker 4: tag goes away because the real champion just can't defend
- 31:05Speaker 4: the You know, so, I mean, who knows who knows
- 31:08Speaker 4: what WWE's interim champion rules will end up being.
- 31:12Speaker 5: They might not even know yet.
- 31:14Speaker 13: Yeah, but let me throw this at y'all. So obviously
- 31:18Speaker 13: Chelsea Green huge. Everybody's happy that she's champion. Nobody's mad
- 31:24Speaker 13: about it at all. Real Ripley has been probably the
- 31:29Speaker 13: most popular woman in the w w E for what
- 31:33Speaker 13: going on maybe four or five years now, almost right
- 31:38Speaker 13: at least since she at least since she corrupted dom
- 31:42Speaker 13: into the Judgment Day probably Yeah, and that was.
- 31:46Speaker 5: Years ago, if not more.
- 31:50Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 13: No, was it was before that because she became a
- 32:02Speaker 13: face when she faced Charlotte for the SmackDown Women's Championship
- 32:06Speaker 13: and now thirty nine.
- 32:12Speaker 2: I think that was thirty nine or thirty eight when
- 32:14Speaker 2: she did that.
- 32:16Speaker 6: Well, Uh, let's see, Dirty Don has been in the
- 32:20Speaker 6: Judgment Day for nearly four years, so he joined the
- 32:23Speaker 6: group September third, twenty twenty two, so you could say
- 32:28Speaker 6: three years eleven months, you know, definitely.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Okay, we'll just going four years. But he's right.
- 32:35Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, Anyway, she's been popular, she's been faced for
- 32:38Speaker 13: a long time.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:40Speaker 13: If ever there was a possible opportunity for them to
- 32:44Speaker 13: turn rear Ripley heel. I think it is whenever she
- 32:50Speaker 13: comes back from this injury, if Chelsea Green is still
- 32:54Speaker 13: champion and still as popular as she is right now
- 32:59Speaker 13: in the moment, because you imagine Chelsea Green coming back,
- 33:04Speaker 13: or Chelsea Green is the champion, Ria comes back and
- 33:07Speaker 13: basically just looks down on Chelsea like she's beneath her.
- 33:12Speaker 13: It just treats Chelsea basically treats Chelsea on air the
- 33:17Speaker 13: way Michael ps Hays treated her backstage, like you're not
- 33:22Speaker 13: worthy of that title, you are not Women's Champion material,
- 33:24Speaker 13: just kind of completely arrogant.
- 33:27Speaker 2: And then say, you know.
- 33:30Speaker 13: Say, say they do have a unification match, and Ria's
- 33:35Speaker 13: more or less like squashes her in a match and
- 33:40Speaker 13: becomes the champion, and she goes on to basically a
- 33:42Speaker 13: heel run as champion, and then you can get a
- 33:45Speaker 13: storyline where Chelsea Green has to fight her way back
- 33:49Speaker 13: up to face Ria again after getting kicked down by
- 33:52Speaker 13: her and having Ria look down on her, and then
- 33:55Speaker 13: it gets to work her way up to face Ria
- 33:58Speaker 13: again as champion and get her title back. That could
- 34:04Speaker 13: be a hell of a damn storyline and a way
- 34:07Speaker 13: to finally get real Ripley as a heel again.
- 34:10Speaker 6: Or they're just gonna have Tiffany Stratton turn on her
- 34:13Speaker 6: and then they'll do a title for title.
- 34:15Speaker 13: Match, turn on who Chelsea Green and title for title
- 34:23Speaker 13: US and.
- 34:24Speaker 6: Women's study to be yeah, or at least you know,
- 34:29Speaker 6: have one either one to have. I don't think they're
- 34:32Speaker 6: going to go to that angle, but that's always an option.
- 34:36Speaker 6: You know, Oh you you know you pushed me off
- 34:39Speaker 6: the ladder. You you know, surpassed me, and you know
- 34:43Speaker 6: I know I'm better than you. This is crazy that
- 34:45Speaker 6: you're the champion and I'm not, Like, I don't know,
- 34:48Speaker 6: there could be come on, man, chicks getting jealous of
- 34:52Speaker 6: each other for sure.
- 34:54Speaker 13: Always a possibility that one of them would have to
- 34:57Speaker 13: be a double champion and as much as I love Chelsea,
- 35:00Speaker 13: she's not double champion tifty string damn showing double champion material.
- 35:04Speaker 6: No, I I think I think I would see uh
- 35:06Speaker 6: probably Tiffany lose her title before that. Yeah, yeah, because honestly,
- 35:12Speaker 6: what have been doing where they've been doing with that title? Nothing?
- 35:16Speaker 6: Really nothing of late? What's some of that? You know
- 35:21Speaker 6: that the list title no way did anything with for
- 35:25Speaker 6: a long time. It's like over one hundred days until
- 35:27Speaker 6: we finally got a match out of her for the title.
- 35:33Speaker 4: I think the time, uh, Stephanie Broombroom was gonna come
- 35:36Speaker 4: back a lot too than she did. Yeah, they instead
- 35:40Speaker 4: of just pivoting into something, just give her anything else
- 35:43Speaker 4: to do.
- 35:47Speaker 6: I mean, let do you guys want to talk about
- 35:48Speaker 6: that match for a little bit live in Io and Neo.
- 35:53Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, so dude, probably right, And it was the
- 36:00Speaker 13: best match of the night.
- 36:01Speaker 6: Maybe it was all the way up until Judgment Day
- 36:04Speaker 6: decided to interfere, you know, because I think at Queen
- 36:08Speaker 6: of the Ring there was no Judgment Day involved. It
- 36:11Speaker 6: was a clean wind for Live, right I or you know,
- 36:15Speaker 6: I mean it was a clean pin for eye. So yeah,
- 36:21Speaker 6: so having soon as the Judgment Day showed up, I
- 36:23Speaker 6: was like, Okay, it's done like already, and then like
- 36:26Speaker 6: having her lose I just like I was like, damn, like.
- 36:32Speaker 5: The judgment, no it's not it's not clean as.
- 36:39Speaker 6: Right, but still I'm just like damn, like okay, so
- 36:43Speaker 6: we're really just we were just saving this for right,
- 36:48Speaker 6: I know. It's just it just sucks because like again,
- 36:52Speaker 6: where does EO go now, like back to the bottom,
- 36:56Speaker 6: I mean wherever he wants? Yep.
- 37:02Speaker 5: She's been in and around the championship for the last like.
- 37:05Speaker 11: Two or three years, you know, yeah, yeah, it's not
- 37:07Speaker 11: the worst thing in the world if she if she's
- 37:09Speaker 11: out of the title picture for a couple year, or.
- 37:18Speaker 6: She could take that icy title off of uh Raquel
- 37:23Speaker 6: oh you know, by the way.
- 37:25Speaker 5: Why by the way, eventually going to get a tournament.
- 37:28Speaker 6: That right, real real quick? That icy title. I don't
- 37:31Speaker 6: know if you guys saw it has barbed wire on it. Now,
- 37:34Speaker 6: when was the last match that Keel used barbed wire?
- 37:38Speaker 6: Can you guys tell me your favorite match Uel used barbier?
- 37:42Speaker 6: That's her traditional you know, no nobody, Uh can you
- 37:46Speaker 6: tell me the last time w w E in general
- 37:50Speaker 6: has used barbed wire? Yeah? Probably, definitely, probably definitely, so,
- 37:58Speaker 6: you know, and not to just that is I tell
- 38:00Speaker 6: you you can't really wear like so she's that title.
- 38:05Speaker 14: Is so small when she holds it.
- 38:07Speaker 15: Yeah, so I guess decoration had to be added to
- 38:12Speaker 15: kind of compensation.
- 38:13Speaker 14: In fact, there's a small title on her like yeah.
- 38:17Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, there's some wrestlers that titles the slope like toys.
- 38:21Speaker 13: It doesn't really make much sense for for Riquel to
- 38:24Speaker 13: be holding a barbed wire women's in the Continental Championship.
- 38:28Speaker 13: She didn't there wasn't any barbed wire involved in her
- 38:31Speaker 13: winning it. She's never done anything involving barbed wire. That Yeah,
- 38:36Speaker 13: that seemed completely random and almost macsually wonder like did
- 38:38Speaker 13: they lose the actual title? And they had this one
- 38:41Speaker 13: just lying around like prototype, and it was like here, here,
- 38:44Speaker 13: just use this for the night, like or it is
- 38:47Speaker 13: a typical TKO being fucking typical t KO. Oh, let's
- 38:51Speaker 13: lap some shit on some ship so we can have
- 38:52Speaker 13: another thing to sell people.
- 38:54Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, you know love titles with barbed wire
- 38:57Speaker 6: on them.
- 38:59Speaker 5: Hmm yeah.
- 39:03Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys noticed we were talking about,
- 39:06Speaker 4: you know, the corporate sponsorship earlier. This mash in particular,
- 39:11Speaker 4: one was was sponsored by Morgan and Morgan.
- 39:13Speaker 5: Did you guys notice that?
- 39:16Speaker 4: Yeah, the price for the price of one three Morgans
- 39:19Speaker 4: for the price of one.
- 39:21Speaker 6: Wow, well, uh a lot of Morgan.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:25Speaker 6: It's funny because uh me and Tyler we work at
- 39:28Speaker 6: a place called Morgan It's and it's also in Morgantown
- 39:33Speaker 6: on Morgantown Road. Yeah. Yeah, So if I ever if
- 39:39Speaker 6: I ever get hurt or injured at work, I'm going
- 39:41Speaker 6: to hire a lawyer from Morgan and Morgan to uh
- 39:45Speaker 6: fight against Morgan in Morgantown or in Morgantown way. But anyway,
- 39:51Speaker 6: how long was this that thirteen minutes and thirty five
- 39:56Speaker 6: seconds for an opening?
- 39:58Speaker 5: They could have had another couple minutes. Yeah, if it was,
- 40:02Speaker 5: you know, another couple of minutes, I thought it was uh.
- 40:08Speaker 6: Used the oblivion Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and then uh
- 40:16Speaker 6: I think then she tried to do the moon stall
- 40:18Speaker 6: after that, and that's when Live put you know the
- 40:20Speaker 6: knees up.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
- 40:26Speaker 4: I feel like I say this every time we talk
- 40:27Speaker 4: about Live, but she is so improved, it's she's still
- 40:32Speaker 4: ticking over. Like if you if you put Neo Sky
- 40:35Speaker 4: up against Live Morgan. A few years ago, she would
- 40:38Speaker 4: have run fucking circles around her. And he has still
- 40:41Speaker 4: a better wrestler than Live Morgan. But you know, well,
- 40:44Speaker 4: if not the best wrestler of the company, but like
- 40:46Speaker 4: Live really in there, like Live absolutely.
- 40:49Speaker 5: Belonging in there with her h And I'm just I'm just.
- 40:53Speaker 4: Always sounded and how much like she was when when
- 40:56Speaker 4: the Riot squad theres or even before that, she was
- 40:58Speaker 4: fucking terrible, you know what I mean, she was just
- 41:01Speaker 4: another hot little bond, you know, And she really really
- 41:05Speaker 4: really has lost him into like a really good professional wrestler,
- 41:08Speaker 4: and it's cool to.
- 41:08Speaker 2: See exactly she can.
- 41:12Speaker 13: She can go with the best of them in that ring, anybody,
- 41:15Speaker 13: whether big, small, high flyer, technical, she can do it all.
- 41:20Speaker 13: I mean, and to her credit on the show that
- 41:22Speaker 13: you don't watch, Doyle. But this season of Unreal, I
- 41:26Speaker 13: think the second episode focuses on Live Morgan to an extent,
- 41:31Speaker 13: and there's a part backstage where Triple H is talking
- 41:34Speaker 13: about her, and he says that he considers her to
- 41:39Speaker 13: be a ring general at this point now to where
- 41:43Speaker 13: he can put anybody in the ring with Live Morgan
- 41:47Speaker 13: and know that things are going to go the way
- 41:49Speaker 13: they're supposed to go. You know that she can get
- 41:52Speaker 13: a good match out of anybody, And that's just a
- 41:56Speaker 13: testament to everything that you just said on how much
- 41:58Speaker 13: she's grown, how much she's developed, and how much better
- 42:01Speaker 13: she's gotten in the ring over these years to where
- 42:05Speaker 13: we all we all look at her now as legitimate champion,
- 42:10Speaker 13: as legitimate top star in the company. Like if you
- 42:14Speaker 13: were thinking of the top active wrestlers in the company
- 42:18Speaker 13: right now, she's in the top five. I don't think
- 42:24Speaker 13: you can name five. Yeah, I don't think you can
- 42:28Speaker 13: really name five women Live Morgan right now, I would
- 42:32Speaker 13: I mean, I would say Real, Ripley, Becky, Lynch, Bianca, Bellaire, Leo, Eo,
- 42:41Speaker 13: and Live.
- 42:42Speaker 5: And all of them, all of them are out right.
- 42:46Speaker 13: Now, all I say for Becky and Live. Yeah all right,
- 42:51Speaker 13: but yeah, those are probably your top five right there.
- 42:56Speaker 13: And Live would not have been in that conversation, like
- 42:58Speaker 13: Doyle said a few years.
- 42:59Speaker 6: Ago, right, yeah, no, Well so this is you know,
- 43:05Speaker 6: as we go through you know some of these.
- 43:09Speaker 13: Matches, by the way, for the record, in that top
- 43:11Speaker 13: five did not include Charlotte, and that was not by accident.
- 43:17Speaker 2: I would hold Morgan above Charlotte Flair right.
- 43:20Speaker 13: Now, So as we go from Charlotte, right, but I
- 43:25Speaker 13: would we personally, I would live above Charlotte just in
- 43:29Speaker 13: case you didn't notice that way.
- 43:31Speaker 6: Unfortunately, this fucking guy Transmen removed from this episode. As
- 43:43Speaker 6: we go through these matches, I'd like to determine too,
- 43:46Speaker 6: if you guys think this is a keeper that we
- 43:48Speaker 6: should have kept on the card, or is this one
- 43:51Speaker 6: we can remove to make this a night one only
- 43:56Speaker 6: you know? Uh so live an EO. Would you guys
- 43:59Speaker 6: would have kept it or or keep? I would have
- 44:01Speaker 6: kept this one too, yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Uh? What was
- 44:05Speaker 6: the other one? Chad Gable? Uh? The inter Inpenta keep
- 44:10Speaker 6: all right? The Chelsea Green match, Women's Stubby counter match.
- 44:15Speaker 6: I would have kept that too, Yeah.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Just the women's championship match.
- 44:19Speaker 6: Ye yeah, you keep it all right. Let's go on
- 44:22Speaker 6: to one that I don't think we would have kept.
- 44:25Speaker 6: This might be our first not keep l A Knight Solo,
- 44:28Speaker 6: Soca and Royce Keys defeated the Bloodline Jacob j Uzo
- 44:33Speaker 6: and Jimmy Uso. Surprisingly Jimmy So not taking the pin,
- 44:40Speaker 6: Jay us taking the pin. Yeah night.
- 44:48Speaker 13: So, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing in
- 44:50Speaker 13: this match that's worth talking about is the fact that
- 44:53Speaker 13: Solo got a huge pop.
- 44:54Speaker 2: When on him.
- 44:56Speaker 16: Oh dude, baby face so much fun, really starting to
- 45:03Speaker 16: get over and cook.
- 45:04Speaker 6: This guy goes run it back and then they play Jay,
- 45:07Speaker 6: who says music I was dying. I was like that,
- 45:10Speaker 6: that's brilliant. Yeah yeah, like really the highlight of that match.
- 45:17Speaker 6: I mean.
- 45:20Speaker 2: We're talking about as more as I'm concerned that.
- 45:22Speaker 6: Right, because it's just really at least uh Monday night raw.
- 45:26Speaker 6: You know what happens after, you know the repercussions of this,
- 45:32Speaker 6: but uh, other than.
- 45:35Speaker 5: That, man, night's over.
- 45:38Speaker 4: As to dude, Yeah, Like I keep thinking that the window,
- 45:42Speaker 4: the window to do something with him that's gonna close,
- 45:45Speaker 4: but he that motherfucker just keeps keeps it open.
- 45:48Speaker 5: Like I kind of don't get it.
- 45:51Speaker 6: But uh he he.
- 45:53Speaker 4: Got the biggest pot by the six people in that
- 45:55Speaker 4: match and buy a lot right like he's yeah also yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 46:06Speaker 4: I mean he surprised me at all.
- 46:07Speaker 2: I mean he's the biggest start in the match. You know,
- 46:10Speaker 2: Jay's light.
- 46:11Speaker 13: Has dimmed significantly from where it was a year or
- 46:15Speaker 13: two ago, and everybody else in this match is it's
- 46:18Speaker 13: pretty much mid card status at now, So you're not
- 46:21Speaker 13: the only one that could be considered close to being
- 46:23Speaker 13: main event status right now. And he's about to get
- 46:28Speaker 13: what he's been clamoring for. He's about to get his
- 46:30Speaker 13: match with Roman at some point. It is pretty much
- 46:33Speaker 13: one of those you know here, motherfucker's damn moment that
- 46:36Speaker 13: they about to give us and giving us l A.
- 46:39Speaker 2: Knight and Roman, where I guess so sorry, y'all. L A.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Knight about to lose again.
- 46:43Speaker 6: But if that's not the key, what if that's not
- 46:46Speaker 6: the get what is? Because like how many times have
- 46:49Speaker 6: we thought, oh for sure, like, you know, is gonna
- 46:53Speaker 6: be winning this title?
- 46:54Speaker 2: Right?
- 46:55Speaker 6: You know, live Moregan definitely Losten haven't done anything with
- 46:58Speaker 6: her for one hundred days, right, She's that title. There's
- 47:00Speaker 6: no way they're gonna give a title to Chelsea Green, right.
- 47:05Speaker 6: There's there's certain things that they did. Even at summer time,
- 47:09Speaker 6: I didn't think we were gonna get you know, is
- 47:11Speaker 6: Brock wasn't really gonna be retired by OVA? You know,
- 47:15Speaker 6: is he really gonna lay down.
- 47:20Speaker 4: Rens is almost like being in the Undertaker WrestleMania.
- 47:23Speaker 5: Right, But it's not like l A. Knight when Roman
- 47:26Speaker 5: when this title rain ends for Roman.
- 47:28Speaker 6: It will not be l A.
- 47:30Speaker 5: Knight. It'll be But listen, here's.
- 47:35Speaker 6: What I'm Here's what I'm saying. Though. This isn't This
- 47:38Speaker 6: isn't the longest reigning current you know w w undispeeded
- 47:46Speaker 6: championship being that he had before. You know this, This
- 47:50Speaker 6: isn't those kind of of heights. So like so like
- 47:53Speaker 6: when losing a world title to l A. Knight. Here's
- 47:57Speaker 6: the thing is, what if this is the only title
- 47:59Speaker 6: he gets, if the feeling gets it once and that
- 48:03Speaker 6: one win is over a guy like Roman to reigns
- 48:07Speaker 6: that that's a significant Yeah, that elevates him a lot higher.
- 48:11Speaker 6: Even if that's his only win. It's no different than
- 48:15Speaker 6: Oba coming in and his fucking big win is over
- 48:17Speaker 6: brock Lessener. Now that man stands in that locker room.
- 48:20Speaker 6: Very different. You know, his biggest win is over Brock
- 48:24Speaker 6: Now Ellie Knight's biggest win could be over Roman, even
- 48:27Speaker 6: if that's his only world title run. But I think
- 48:30Speaker 6: Roman could take that, especially if the bloodlines not behind
- 48:35Speaker 6: him this time. That's a significant difference. Now, and that
- 48:39Speaker 6: was brought up on Raw. There is no your boys
- 48:41Speaker 6: aren't here. I took your boys out, you know, the
- 48:44Speaker 6: other night. Granted, yeah they're still here, they're still backstage,
- 48:47Speaker 6: but he says specifically Ellie Knights, mind, do not lay
- 48:51Speaker 6: hands on him this that could be the slip up
- 48:55Speaker 6: to allow him. I don't know, I am, anything's possible,
- 49:00Speaker 6: but like, I just believe that there's so much value
- 49:06Speaker 6: to it just for him on his side, you know.
- 49:10Speaker 6: And you know, look how it elevated Cody so quickly
- 49:14Speaker 6: for his first title. You know, he elevated him so high,
- 49:18Speaker 6: And uh, I don't know. I just think it could work.
- 49:23Speaker 13: I mean, night be that big of a deal as
- 49:27Speaker 13: it used to be. Well, I say that the title
- 49:30Speaker 13: reign may not be as big a deal as his
- 49:32Speaker 13: previous run, but the man still is as big a deal.
- 49:37Speaker 2: So yeah, they're not They're not giving that out to
- 49:41Speaker 2: just anybody as a person to end Roman's title reign.
- 49:46Speaker 17: M hm.
- 49:47Speaker 13: He still had carries that precedent. Like last time he
- 49:50Speaker 13: was champion, he held it for three fucking years, and
- 49:52Speaker 13: some change is that nobody expects that this one's going
- 49:56Speaker 13: to be anywhere near as long.
- 49:59Speaker 2: But it's still gonna be a big deal.
- 50:01Speaker 13: When somebody does end it, right, And I just don't
- 50:05Speaker 13: see La Knight as being that guy to end it,
- 50:09Speaker 13: regardless of how it elevated.
- 50:11Speaker 2: And I mean and really Cody didn't need.
- 50:14Speaker 13: Cody's defeat of Roman really wasn't so much elevation as
- 50:17Speaker 13: it was confirmation. Like at that point in time, Cody
- 50:22Speaker 13: was already that guy. He was already the number one
- 50:26Speaker 13: babyface in the company. At that time, he had just
- 50:29Speaker 13: Maine invented the resumate of the year before, he had
- 50:31Speaker 13: just had the feud and got the coat side from
- 50:34Speaker 13: brock Lessing. He was as white hot as he was
- 50:36Speaker 13: ever going to be going into forty. The title reign
- 50:40Speaker 13: was again like you know, forgive the pun, but just
- 50:43Speaker 13: finishing the story, just putting the exclamation park mark on
- 50:46Speaker 13: the thing that was already there. It wasn't like he
- 50:50Speaker 13: was the guy that needed the boost from it. He
- 50:53Speaker 13: already had it. Yeah, and yet if La Knight was
- 50:57Speaker 13: to win, it would give him a boost.
- 50:59Speaker 6: But it's you gotta start somewhere, You gotta start somewhere.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Where, But time is running out.
- 51:08Speaker 13: To be Roman reigns like if anybody else was champion, Yeah,
- 51:14Speaker 13: I can see okay, yeah l A Knight beat stuff.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Roman reigns is different that that is not that.
- 51:23Speaker 6: I'm just saying, we're talking about it.
- 51:24Speaker 13: It's different, right, it's rare air, It's it's not it
- 51:29Speaker 13: ain't just any title.
- 51:30Speaker 6: Win Tyler, let me what are your opinion on this
- 51:34Speaker 6: where La Knights headed out of this six man tag nights.
- 51:37Speaker 14: Oh, I would have to say, is.
- 51:53Speaker 15: I think an opportunity like that could be.
- 52:12Speaker 6: It's the winner. You could hold it to Rumble, you
- 52:15Speaker 6: could hold this Survivor series even.
- 52:17Speaker 15: The following Monday if he really need feeling, you have
- 52:20Speaker 15: to get his title back because you know he's not
- 52:21Speaker 15: gonna let.
- 52:22Speaker 14: La and k I just go longer than a week.
- 52:24Speaker 6: No, And and you know what we always got to
- 52:27Speaker 6: remember to and that's that's coming up very soon. Money
- 52:31Speaker 6: in the bank, Money in the bank. He could win
- 52:33Speaker 6: that title and lose it the next within minutes. He
- 52:38Speaker 6: could lose it right away, you know, like Drew McIntyre
- 52:42Speaker 6: seeing Punk both those guys and hold the title very long,
- 52:46Speaker 6: you know, and they lost it very short. It sucks,
- 52:49Speaker 6: but it could happen, just to happen, just so you
- 52:51Speaker 6: could say that, you know, you were a former heavyweight champion.
- 52:56Speaker 6: He could get a Damien Precype run where it's like,
- 52:59Speaker 6: you know, the summer is almost over, but we can
- 53:01Speaker 6: have the fall of l A Night. But uh yeah,
- 53:05Speaker 6: the fall of the Fall Night. But I don't know.
- 53:08Speaker 6: I just think out of this six man matches, he's
- 53:11Speaker 6: the only one who's kind of benefited. I don't know,
- 53:13Speaker 6: you're gonna have the ussos now go for the tag titles.
- 53:16Speaker 14: I've also heard some buzz about.
- 53:21Speaker 13: Yeah, Solo probably benefited the most, right right, If we're
- 53:25Speaker 13: talking about who came out of here looking the best,
- 53:27Speaker 13: I think it's Solo because he's the only one in
- 53:29Speaker 13: this match host afterwards that I've seen anybody talk about.
- 53:34Speaker 13: I haven't heard anybody talking about Royce Keys, nobody's talked
- 53:36Speaker 13: about five to nobody's talked about Jay.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Nobody was talking.
- 53:40Speaker 13: About La Night until this past on Monday Night Raw.
- 53:44Speaker 13: But as far as the match itself, again, the only
- 53:47Speaker 13: thing that I saw anybody talking about, which again he
- 53:51Speaker 13: was the only thing we're talking about in this match
- 53:53Speaker 13: was Solo with the yeat, which led to people talking
- 53:56Speaker 13: about Solo's transition as a baby facing I was starting
- 54:01Speaker 13: to really work and he's starting to get over with it. Hell,
- 54:07Speaker 13: I could see Solo beating damn Roman. I could see
- 54:10Speaker 13: him choosing solo to take the title off Roman before
- 54:12Speaker 13: LA Night. You don't even know how much momentum he
- 54:16Speaker 13: gets off this baby face run. I just think Triple's
- 54:21Speaker 13: just doesn't like Why didn't say he just doesn't like him?
- 54:23Speaker 2: But I don't think he guys faith in l A Knight.
- 54:26Speaker 6: Yeah, well we'll see, we'll see where they go with him.
- 54:30Speaker 6: But uh, if if he wins that title from Roman rains,
- 54:34Speaker 6: you shall be eating Crosser and I will make sure
- 54:38Speaker 6: you get it. See, we shall see this. This match, though, sir, guys,
- 54:46Speaker 6: is a is a skip? Like you guys would have
- 54:48Speaker 6: kept it on the card. Okay, yeah, okay, go ahead.
- 54:52Speaker 13: Sorry, yeah, no, this this didn't need to happen at
- 54:57Speaker 13: Summer Slam at all. I mean in a two nights setup.
- 55:01Speaker 13: I understand why it was on a two nights setup
- 55:03Speaker 13: and why it was on early, I get it, but yeah,
- 55:10Speaker 13: nothing nothing worthwhile out of it.
- 55:13Speaker 2: But yeah, they could have been on this is easily sure.
- 55:17Speaker 13: Yeah if it was a one night then yeah this
- 55:19Speaker 13: I don't think this makes the one night cut.
- 55:22Speaker 2: But we haven't heard from you Doyle.
- 55:24Speaker 13: Yet as far as what's uh one thing from Summer Slam.
- 55:29Speaker 2: That stood out to you.
- 55:33Speaker 5: Why on earth? Why on earth.
- 55:38Speaker 4: Did overfem Me and brock less and need to be
- 55:41Speaker 4: in Hell in the South. If they weren't going to
- 55:43Speaker 4: do anything with Hell on the South, they it could
- 55:47Speaker 4: have just been a regular old no DQ match or
- 55:49Speaker 4: street fight or whatever you want to call it.
- 55:51Speaker 18: Like they they they had this terrible segment on the
- 55:56Speaker 18: raw before with this whole you're not locked in here
- 55:59Speaker 18: with me, I'm locked in, you know, or I'm you know,
- 56:01Speaker 18: you're not allowed to it here, I'm locked in, you
- 56:03Speaker 18: know whatever.
- 56:04Speaker 5: But this whole thing with the key and you know,
- 56:06Speaker 5: and when.
- 56:07Speaker 4: When you could just raise the cage like that was
- 56:10Speaker 4: like they missed an opportunity there.
- 56:13Speaker 5: I think I thought, oh, by like rick the door
- 56:15Speaker 5: up the cage.
- 56:16Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and really scare O brock
- 56:18Speaker 4: you know, and he goes holy ship like what you know.
- 56:21Speaker 5: And then they get to the actual match and they
- 56:22Speaker 5: don't even use the cage and I think they might
- 56:25Speaker 5: have thrown each other into.
- 56:26Speaker 19: It once, but other than that just weren't meaningless And
- 56:30Speaker 19: and then moreover, and I thought, after that great cage
- 56:34Speaker 19: man or Helen to selling match with Phil and Drew.
- 56:38Speaker 19: I guess last year I thought, okay, maybe they finally
- 56:42Speaker 19: finally back and they're gonna do this gimmick.
- 56:44Speaker 5: Right and not over use it and not use it
- 56:46Speaker 5: for no reason. And a boom, here they are, like
- 56:50Speaker 5: you know, they're they're tearing the ring up.
- 56:52Speaker 2: Was nice.
- 56:52Speaker 5: That's always kind of a cool gimmick. And then O
- 56:55Speaker 5: the fucking what the hell does sinister called like it?
- 56:59Speaker 5: And he misses yeah, and then he misses the doing
- 57:02Speaker 5: it on the board. He doesn't do it, you know, right, yeah,
- 57:06Speaker 5: don't And it doesn't it doesn't need to be in
- 57:10Speaker 5: Hell and the Cell.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Like some street fighters, i mean, street match ships.
- 57:19Speaker 5: It just seems like a total waste of hell itself.
- 57:23Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 57:23Speaker 6: I mean it's funny because he wore the he wore
- 57:26Speaker 6: the elbow Paz just for that spot, I think, right,
- 57:30Speaker 6: but uh I didn't need him, I guess, yeah, I
- 57:33Speaker 6: agree Doyle, like, uh, you know, we're thinking in our heads,
- 57:37Speaker 6: this is Brock's last, you know, match, right, this is
- 57:40Speaker 6: in his hometown. He's no color, no color, Like we
- 57:44Speaker 6: were like, you know this, We've seen Brock in Helen
- 57:48Speaker 6: Cell matches. There was blood, you know, like, let's do
- 57:51Speaker 6: it this he should have. Even if the spot was worked,
- 57:59Speaker 6: it's still wouldn't have been enough. The whole time, I'm like, okay,
- 58:03Speaker 6: you gotta like tackle him. I would love to see
- 58:05Speaker 6: him spear him through the cell like the side of
- 58:08Speaker 6: the cell would have, you know, just like a fucking
- 58:10Speaker 6: video game. I didn't expect them to climb it or anything,
- 58:14Speaker 6: but I expected something something Sometimes they used to sell
- 58:18Speaker 6: where they like they I forget who it was. If
- 58:22Speaker 6: you guys, remember they pinched somebody in the corner of
- 58:25Speaker 6: the cell with Kendo sticks and they kind of couldn't move.
- 58:28Speaker 6: I think it may be like an USO's tag match.
- 58:31Speaker 6: I forget who with, but they like pinned somebody in
- 58:34Speaker 6: the corner with with Kendo sticks and you know, using
- 58:37Speaker 6: the cell, the actual cell itself, you know, for the match.
- 58:41Speaker 6: But like, no, nothing, dude, and these these guys are
- 58:44Speaker 6: beast But you're right, dude, and like why even have it?
- 58:47Speaker 6: Why not just have a steel cage then, I'm sure
- 58:50Speaker 6: I'm sure you know, given the fact that I used
- 58:53Speaker 6: to do stage hand, I know for a fact those
- 58:55Speaker 6: guys who set up that cell and had tear that
- 58:58Speaker 6: thing down, we're probably like, why the fuck did you
- 59:01Speaker 6: use it, you know, like I set this up, dude,
- 59:04Speaker 6: you know, like, do you know how many impact gun
- 59:06Speaker 6: bat batteries I had to go through to fucking you
- 59:09Speaker 6: know bolster thing? Oh yeah, right, I mean nuts and washers?
- 59:13Speaker 6: I fucking lost, and like how many times are cut?
- 59:16Speaker 6: Like damn, dude, you didn't even use it, not once?
- 59:19Speaker 6: Like the fuck you know? Yeah, glorified set piece, like damn.
- 59:26Speaker 13: Pretty much right, Yeah, just like a doll said, just
- 59:30Speaker 13: when we thought we were getting Hell in the Cell
- 59:32Speaker 13: back to being Hell in the cell, they pulled this
- 59:34Speaker 13: bullshit and they use it just for the name. Yeah,
- 59:38Speaker 13: we gotta make it seem big. What can we do
- 59:41Speaker 13: Hell in a cell? Throw the name out there, and
- 59:43Speaker 13: there was nothing hell about that cell match. I think
- 59:54Speaker 13: it would have been better off if they had just
- 59:55Speaker 13: gone with a no DQ match or street fight match.
- 59:58Speaker 2: That might have that might have read them up creatively
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: to do more things. If they weren't confined to the cell.
- 1:00:04Speaker 13: Could have got maybe some barricade spots, we could have
- 1:00:06Speaker 13: gotten table spots something else. The final match at Night one,
- 1:00:10Speaker 13: what the fuck them damn announced table still standing there.
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: For Yeah, there's there's a couple of matches that could
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: have been just announced as a no d Q or
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: a street fight, and we would have been like, oh, okay,
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: like that makes sense.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: Those tables were not there because they got ruined in
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: the Cody Punk match.
- 1:00:30Speaker 6: Corrected on that point, Alight, do you guys put.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: The motherfuckers back together and fuck them up again?
- 1:00:36Speaker 6: Yeah? Uh so, Oba and Brock. Would you guys we
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: still keep this obviously on the card, right, I.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Would keep it, but not as a hell in the
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Cell match.
- 1:00:46Speaker 5: No.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have done it to something else.
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: But Brock whatever it takes to it all right, and.
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: Less apparently has retired again now. But I still don't
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: believe it because I can't imagine.
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: He's not going to be on.
- 1:01:04Speaker 6: Yo. I was saying the same thing, give him ten
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: million to show up exactly.
- 1:01:10Speaker 13: I believe it just because he said it himself. If
- 1:01:13Speaker 13: it would have been like a w W announcement where
- 1:01:15Speaker 13: like he's a he retired, we moved it to alumni,
- 1:01:18Speaker 13: then I would then I wouldn't believe it. I would
- 1:01:21Speaker 13: be skeptical. But as ironic as it may seem, I
- 1:01:25Speaker 13: believe Brock when he says it with his own words
- 1:01:28Speaker 13: more than I believe the w w e. I believe,
- 1:01:31Speaker 13: in his own words, in his own way, more or
- 1:01:35Speaker 13: less on his time, given that he did it on
- 1:01:37Speaker 13: Pat McAfee show, I believe I put more weight into
- 1:01:42Speaker 13: that than anything else.
- 1:01:45Speaker 6: I I believe Joe Hendry before I believe Brod Lessons retired.
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: I just there's so many other wrestlers I thought were done,
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: you know, like me being the biggest, full of all things.
- 1:02:00Speaker 6: Rick Flair was done after he lost to Sewan Michaels
- 1:02:02Speaker 6: at Wrestle Media. Right, that's it. Rick Flair is never
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: gonna wrestle again, right, Yeah, you know, the Undertaker is
- 1:02:09Speaker 6: fully retired. He's never gonna wrestle again. Or or stone
- 1:02:12Speaker 6: Cold is you know when you get the names like
- 1:02:14Speaker 6: stone Cold or Sean Michaels, like guys who really were
- 1:02:18Speaker 6: out for years, but saudy money or just money in general,
- 1:02:23Speaker 6: lots of money just brings people back because you know
- 1:02:26Speaker 6: you just agreed, man, Like it's gonna send me back
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: to fucking dump truck up big enough, to your fucking house.
- 1:02:34Speaker 6: You're gonna say, yeah, you're gonna do another Matrix movie. Yes,
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: you're gonna, you know, do another Rocky movie. You're you
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: know what I mean, yes, we'll do another fast and
- 1:02:43Speaker 6: furious movie. Like whatever money is everything, they'll run ship
- 1:02:49Speaker 6: to the ground as long as somebody's willing to pay
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: for it, right even if nobody watches, as long as
- 1:02:55Speaker 6: somebody's paying the bill. But it's like who then, like
- 1:03:02Speaker 6: who would they have him even come back for? You know,
- 1:03:05Speaker 6: how much would it be? And then how do you
- 1:03:07Speaker 6: really wrap up your career? If you again, if you've
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: wrapped it up here, But we'll see, we'll see. But
- 1:03:15Speaker 6: if so, if that's true, then Oba he sees Oba
- 1:03:19Speaker 6: going forward as the next big thing, you know. And
- 1:03:22Speaker 6: this was truly after the match, you know him the
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: way he treated Oba with respect for each other. And
- 1:03:31Speaker 6: even after that on rall, Paul Haymond taken an interest
- 1:03:36Speaker 6: in Oba, you know, because he did say at one
- 1:03:39Speaker 6: point that he would love to manage Oba after Brock
- 1:03:42Speaker 6: is gone. He brought that up to Oba, he said,
- 1:03:45Speaker 6: I would love to manage you after Brock is gone.
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: Guess what we are probably there finally, so who knows
- 1:03:54Speaker 6: because he doesn't. But you know, it seems like Hall
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: doesn't want the vision or doesn't need braun Breaker, and
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: they're kind of teasing Broun and Oba, which so early
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: to do. But you know, here we go, Okay, sure
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: is it that? I mean, don't you feel like, oh,
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: we should be going after like he said, like the
- 1:04:23Speaker 6: what do you say that he was gonna be coming
- 1:04:25Speaker 6: after the new guard is here taking over, you know,
- 1:04:29Speaker 6: taking out the old guard. So you know, I would
- 1:04:31Speaker 6: like to see him feud with with other older, you know,
- 1:04:35Speaker 6: rest guys on the roster, you know, more seasoned guys.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I like, I like to
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: see from Ova. What's that I'd like to see him
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: go away.
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: For a while, take a break until somebody worthy comes back,
- 1:04:50Speaker 6: like Drew McIntyre maybe comes back. You know, that'd be
- 1:04:53Speaker 6: a good heel for him.
- 1:04:54Speaker 13: To go take a break until I would just rather
- 1:04:57Speaker 13: take a break until he has a and you win
- 1:05:00Speaker 13: reason to come back, because think about it, he still
- 1:05:03Speaker 13: has his King of the Ring title match since they've
- 1:05:08Speaker 13: you know, started to bring that back up again. So
- 1:05:11Speaker 13: you've got this guy who just defeated brock Lesner and
- 1:05:15Speaker 13: is owed a title match from being King of the Ring.
- 1:05:18Speaker 13: If I'm ob fami, why the fuck would I waste
- 1:05:21Speaker 13: my time on anybody who isn't WWE or World champion.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: Correct, like I just conquered b Less.
- 1:05:30Speaker 13: And didn't take it right but there, But I'm saying,
- 1:05:33Speaker 13: but he still has it. He's still he still is
- 1:05:37Speaker 13: owed that title match by virtue of being king of
- 1:05:40Speaker 13: the ring. That's why I think that's why they started
- 1:05:42Speaker 13: bringing mentioning it, mentioning it on television again, because he
- 1:05:45Speaker 13: has that not saying that they're actually gonna do it,
- 1:05:47Speaker 13: but they are making a point to bring up the
- 1:05:50Speaker 13: fact that he is still owed that title shot, now
- 1:05:52Speaker 13: that he's gotten past, now that he's put brock Lesner
- 1:05:55Speaker 13: behind him.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: So, I mean, just common sense in my opinion.
- 1:06:00Speaker 13: If you're O the title shot and you're oba Fami
- 1:06:04Speaker 13: who just conquered brock Lesler, why would I waste my
- 1:06:08Speaker 13: time on anybody on the roster not name Roman Reigns
- 1:06:11Speaker 13: or see him punk. I would just be like, Okay,
- 1:06:15Speaker 13: I'm over the title shot, all right, Roman, bring your
- 1:06:17Speaker 13: ass l A and like get the fuck out the way,
- 1:06:19Speaker 13: yep yep, like And if they're not going to do that,
- 1:06:24Speaker 13: I would rather, oh but just go away for a
- 1:06:27Speaker 13: while rather than them do, Rather than them struggle to
- 1:06:31Speaker 13: try to figure out something for him to do every week,
- 1:06:34Speaker 13: because we saw how that went in between the King
- 1:06:38Speaker 13: of the Ring.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Tournament and Brock coming back for him.
- 1:06:41Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm not trying to see him tossing around small
- 1:06:45Speaker 13: people and doing dumb shit week on end. That's just
- 1:06:47Speaker 13: gonna stifle his momentum. That's gonna just cool off his heat.
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: Mm.
- 1:06:52Speaker 13: So keep him feeling special, keep him feeling like a
- 1:06:56Speaker 13: big thing. And if you don't have a major story
- 1:07:00Speaker 13: line with a major talent for him to feud with,
- 1:07:04Speaker 13: then just let him go away for a while. I'm
- 1:07:08Speaker 13: not saying him he go away for like six months
- 1:07:10Speaker 13: or anything like that, but we don't need him for
- 1:07:12Speaker 13: the month of September if you ain't got shit going
- 1:07:14Speaker 13: on right Next, Poe is what money in the bank?
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: Yeah, bring him back around.
- 1:07:20Speaker 13: Then let him work money in the bank and maybe
- 1:07:24Speaker 13: into Survivor series or something.
- 1:07:28Speaker 6: What if he he comes back, wins money in the
- 1:07:30Speaker 6: bank and he cashes it in and then he cashes
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: in his King of the Ring he gets both titles?
- 1:07:35Speaker 6: Oh my god, no kidding, have you some stupid ass
- 1:07:41Speaker 6: Vincement man booking?
- 1:07:43Speaker 17: Uh?
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: Oh speaking of a match that I think could have
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: been in Vincent Man booking. Ah, you guys, wanna talk
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: about Gunter and Nick all this next silent? Hey you
- 1:08:03Speaker 6: know what I right?
- 1:08:06Speaker 5: Right?
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: He eleven minutes forty seconds. He he hung in there with.
- 1:08:12Speaker 6: I didn't know who Nick Aldos was before he was
- 1:08:15Speaker 6: a general manager. I didn't know his any of his
- 1:08:18Speaker 6: wrestling stats, Like he was a teen A world champion,
- 1:08:24Speaker 6: he was a TEENA tag champion. I didn't know that. So, yeah,
- 1:08:31Speaker 6: he's just about believe it or not, that almost the
- 1:08:34Speaker 6: same weight too, and size as gun Thar. You know,
- 1:08:37Speaker 6: they're surprisingly the same. I didn't know he's also, oh
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: maybe I did. I just forgot that he's he's married
- 1:08:44Speaker 6: to Mickey James. Yeah, tna Mickey James. Yeah, oh yeah,
- 1:08:49Speaker 6: oh yeah, good stuff. So even though he lost this match,
- 1:08:56Speaker 6: he still won. But uh yeah right, uh yeah, what
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: does this mean, Doyle? Like, does this mean that he's
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: now coming back as a full time wrestler? Are we gonna?
- 1:09:10Speaker 6: Is this how we transitioned him from a GM to
- 1:09:12Speaker 6: a full time wrestler? This is his first you hope not?
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: You know, guys, don't think that, like I mean I would.
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind seeing him my gun, but not regularly,
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: Like it wouldn't mind if he's in like a like
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: what Paul literally used to do.
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: Back in the day or the Brain where like you know,
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: the tag team he's managing or whatever, like you know,
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: gets in a three way situation and he has to
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: wrestle or something like that would be.
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: I'd be okay with that.
- 1:09:44Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: I mean he was.
- 1:09:46Speaker 5: He was gassed like almost immediately. To his credit, he's
- 1:09:50Speaker 5: still hung in there, which is good, good to see.
- 1:09:53Speaker 5: But I'm afraid about guns though.
- 1:09:55Speaker 10: Like.
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: The next day he has another get another high profile loss.
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: The only real wins he's had are against general managers
- 1:10:04Speaker 4: or announcers or guys who once, you know, one hundred
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: years old and have one foot out to do already.
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: It's just like I feel like Guntherter is totally lost
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: whatever mostique used to have.
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: And I think I was afraid of this happening a
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: couple of episodes ago, and I think it has happened.
- 1:10:22Speaker 4: Like I think, you know, why why are these retired
- 1:10:26Speaker 4: guys or these announcers, why are they hanging with Dunter?
- 1:10:29Speaker 5: Gunter is so menacing and so unstoppable, you know, and
- 1:10:33Speaker 5: then he goes.
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: Out there and he loses and there too, you know,
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: anytime he's up against the real upon and everything's for
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: not being able to beat them anymore. So I'm really
- 1:10:43Speaker 4: concerned about Gunter's future much less so all this can
- 1:10:47Speaker 4: go do whatever he wants, but I'm afraid for gun Through.
- 1:10:52Speaker 13: I respectfully disagree. I have no concerns about Gunter because
- 1:11:00Speaker 13: I think I think we see things that have happened differently.
- 1:11:04Speaker 13: I don't think Nick Aldus quote unquote hung with Gunter.
- 1:11:08Speaker 13: I think a Gunster won pretty easily, pretty handily. I
- 1:11:12Speaker 13: mean Gunter, I mean not guns but all this got
- 1:11:14Speaker 13: his offense in here and there. I mean the pretty
- 1:11:18Speaker 13: much the high point was him getting it. It was
- 1:11:22Speaker 13: a Texas clover leaf finisher that he put on Gunter.
- 1:11:26Speaker 5: Uh yeah, they call it something else. It was like
- 1:11:28Speaker 5: the Clean Lynn Road. It was a mouth fault, it
- 1:11:33Speaker 5: was it was a bad.
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: Name, it was something. Yeah.
- 1:11:38Speaker 13: That was pretty much the high point. But other than that,
- 1:11:40Speaker 13: Gunter won pretty handily. As far as the match itself,
- 1:11:44Speaker 13: I think the match was. The match was just a
- 1:11:47Speaker 13: standard classic wrestling match like down to like you know,
- 1:11:52Speaker 13: the arm bars and the headlocks and the rope and
- 1:11:54Speaker 13: the drop down and the leap frog and also I
- 1:11:56Speaker 13: mean his match could have easily taken place on a
- 1:12:00Speaker 13: nineties episode of World Championship Wrestling and felt right at home.
- 1:12:05Speaker 13: So there was nothing really special about the match itself.
- 1:12:07Speaker 13: The crowd is what made the match worthwhile, because the
- 1:12:12Speaker 13: crowd was so into it in the crowd was so
- 1:12:14Speaker 13: strongly behind Nick Aldis. I think that's what elevated this
- 1:12:17Speaker 13: match much higher than it needed to be and made
- 1:12:21Speaker 13: it seem like Nick Aldis was doing or performed much
- 1:12:25Speaker 13: better than he probably actually did in comparison to Gunter.
- 1:12:30Speaker 13: And that's not to take anything away from Nick Alldens.
- 1:12:33Speaker 13: Obviously he's a very capable wrestler and showed that he's
- 1:12:35Speaker 13: still very capable. As far as him transitioning back into
- 1:12:39Speaker 13: being a wrestler, that's not happening. They put They nixed
- 1:12:42Speaker 13: that immediately right after Night one with a little backstage
- 1:12:45Speaker 13: segment where he submitted a letter of resignation to Triple
- 1:12:48Speaker 13: Ah and Triple Ah ripped it up and reinstated him
- 1:12:50Speaker 13: as GM, which is why he came out to kickoff
- 1:12:53Speaker 13: night too. So I'm not concerned about him transitioning to
- 1:12:57Speaker 13: being a wrestler or anything like that. He's going to
- 1:12:59Speaker 13: go back in his role, and maybe if the situation
- 1:13:01Speaker 13: warrant to get it again, he'll put the tights back on.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: But I think that's about it for that.
- 1:13:07Speaker 13: As far as Gunter goes again, I think he pretty
- 1:13:11Speaker 13: handily beat Nick all this. I don't think it needed
- 1:13:15Speaker 13: to be a squash or anything like that, but he's
- 1:13:16Speaker 13: still won pretty handily and pretty convincingly, so I'm not
- 1:13:20Speaker 13: worried about that. And then he was immediately thrown back
- 1:13:24Speaker 13: into a title match. Even if he did not win,
- 1:13:28Speaker 13: he's still perpetually in the title picture. So as long
- 1:13:31Speaker 13: as he remains in the title picture, I think he's okay.
- 1:13:35Speaker 13: Now if we see him feuding with somebody who is
- 1:13:37Speaker 13: not in the title picture, you know, if they announce
- 1:13:41Speaker 13: a freaking like a US title tournament and Gunter's a competitor,
- 1:13:45Speaker 13: then I think we should be worried about Gunter.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: But until that happens, he's fine. He's just.
- 1:13:53Speaker 13: He's not champion right now, but he's forever lingering in
- 1:13:56Speaker 13: the title picture. I think that's right where he should be.
- 1:14:00Speaker 13: I think he is appropriately placed right now, and any
- 1:14:04Speaker 13: moment that they want to put the title back on him,
- 1:14:08Speaker 13: he can win it at any time. I don't think
- 1:14:10Speaker 13: anybody has any doubts that Gunter can win the title
- 1:14:14Speaker 13: any night that they decide, and it would be completely credible.
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: Nobody would doubt it. Nobody would be like Gunter beat him.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: I don't buy that. Like, no, nobody would have any
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: doubts at any moment.
- 1:14:30Speaker 13: Like if Oba became champion at Survivor Series and Oba
- 1:14:39Speaker 13: was wound up facing Gunster at WrestleMania and Gunter won,
- 1:14:43Speaker 13: nobody would be surprised. If Gunter stayed in the exact
- 1:14:48Speaker 13: same role he's in right now from now to the
- 1:14:51Speaker 13: Royal Rumble in January or February, and then Gunter won
- 1:14:55Speaker 13: the Rumble, nobody would be surprised. So I think he
- 1:15:00Speaker 13: still has the same, just as much credibility as he's
- 1:15:03Speaker 13: always had. He's just not the champion right now.
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: And that's okay, yes, true, Well, yeah, I'm maybe him
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: off of TV for a while would be good to
- 1:15:22Speaker 6: Sometimes it's easy just to put guys on the side,
- 1:15:26Speaker 6: just waiting.
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: On the subject to Gunter.
- 1:15:32Speaker 13: Since we've already kind of talked about it, might as
- 1:15:35Speaker 13: well bring up the other highlight, a real high point
- 1:15:38Speaker 13: of Summer Slam, and that was the start of night too,
- 1:15:41Speaker 13: where Gunter was inserted into the match that was supposed
- 1:15:45Speaker 13: to be just Sammy Zain versus Finn ballor for the
- 1:15:48Speaker 13: number one contender for the w W Championship, which saw
- 1:15:53Speaker 13: an insertion of Gunter and to the shock of I'm
- 1:15:56Speaker 13: pretty sure damn near every fucking body, the return of
- 1:16:00Speaker 13: Keaven Owens did not see this coming at all.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: Oh my god, got a massive pop.
- 1:16:10Speaker 13: You saw like people were genuinely emotional, Like you saw
- 1:16:12Speaker 13: people crying in the audience at his return, Like that
- 1:16:15Speaker 13: shit was crazy.
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:16:18Speaker 6: Yeah, the old Sam's face.
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: Yeah, Sammy Sain sold it like a motherfucker too. Yep.
- 1:16:25Speaker 13: That being said, I don't think Kevin Owen should have
- 1:16:27Speaker 13: won this match. I get I get to feel good
- 1:16:32Speaker 13: moment of him returning. I think him returning and competing,
- 1:16:35Speaker 13: I think that was good enough. I do not think
- 1:16:38Speaker 13: that even the Kevin Owens, the guy of his stature,
- 1:16:43Speaker 13: should have come back after what eighteen months or whatever
- 1:16:47Speaker 13: long it was on the shelf and beat three guys
- 1:16:51Speaker 13: in a fatal four way match and immediately come back
- 1:16:54Speaker 13: and be number one contender. That I don't that I'm
- 1:16:57Speaker 13: not buying that that I can't. I can't drive with
- 1:17:00Speaker 13: and they just completely fucked Finn Balor.
- 1:17:05Speaker 15: Jesus, doesn't this happen with like a lot of top
- 1:17:08Speaker 15: super stars though, where they get injured, gonna have him
- 1:17:12Speaker 15: with Ria Ripley and then they come back and then
- 1:17:14Speaker 15: they're instantly like in the title chase, so that.
- 1:17:20Speaker 6: Uh, she's still you know, well.
- 1:17:27Speaker 13: Can I yeah, I'm not saying it's unprecedented. Mean yeah,
- 1:17:31Speaker 13: plenty of precedent for it. I mean, Johnson is coming
- 1:17:33Speaker 13: back and went into rumble and Triple A's coming back
- 1:17:36Speaker 13: and went in the rumble. I mean yeah, there's absolute
- 1:17:38Speaker 13: precedent for it. Uh, with plenty of examples in the past,
- 1:17:45Speaker 13: and I think it works every single time. And sorry,
- 1:17:50Speaker 13: I was like, I just I don't know that this one,
- 1:17:52Speaker 13: at least for me. I don't feel like this one
- 1:17:55Speaker 13: worked for me. They worked for others, but not necessarily
- 1:17:58Speaker 13: for me.
- 1:18:00Speaker 6: Can I play Devil's at advocate for this? Here's the
- 1:18:05Speaker 6: reason why I'm not saying, like for this match, maybe
- 1:18:08Speaker 6: Kevin shouldn't want have won this match, Maybe somebody else
- 1:18:12Speaker 6: should have won and we could have gotten Kevin to
- 1:18:15Speaker 6: the title picture another way. I mean the pop it
- 1:18:19Speaker 6: was for the Pop right. The pop was great, I
- 1:18:22Speaker 6: mean it was I honestly didn't think Kevin was gonna
- 1:18:26Speaker 6: come back. This guy had nex fusion done. You know,
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: not a lot of people can come back from that.
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: Seventeen months is a long time to be away from
- 1:18:34Speaker 6: a company like this. A lot can change in seventeen months.
- 1:18:38Speaker 6: So I was getting to the point where likes, it's
- 1:18:41Speaker 6: just too long, it's not happening, you know. So like,
- 1:18:47Speaker 6: you know, when I walked into our living room and
- 1:18:50Speaker 6: we were watching it, you know, is that nick All
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: this came out? Or was it nick All This? Or
- 1:18:56Speaker 6: was it Adam Peterson Nicky Nick? So I thought it
- 1:19:00Speaker 6: was kind of weird too write introducing the guy who
- 1:19:02Speaker 6: my ass yesterday. But uh, anyway, uh yes, I'm like
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: Kevin Owens, Kevin Owens right like and then of that
- 1:19:12Speaker 6: music hit And I think the only reason why I
- 1:19:14Speaker 6: knew was Kevin because I saw him.
- 1:19:17Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:19:18Speaker 6: Uh, I guess Dirty Dom was signing autographs and he
- 1:19:21Speaker 6: was fucking around with Dom throwing ship at him. But uh,
- 1:19:25Speaker 6: I was like, oh, so he's at Summer Slid like interesting.
- 1:19:29Speaker 15: So the only thing they threw me off about that
- 1:19:31Speaker 15: interaction was the fact that he wasn't shaved, you know,
- 1:19:35Speaker 15: like burning like that, he wasn't right nah.
- 1:19:39Speaker 14: So like that that did a really good job with.
- 1:19:44Speaker 6: But sometimes I think when guys, yeah, when guys come
- 1:19:47Speaker 6: back with the beard, you know, like I remember Edge
- 1:19:49Speaker 6: came back one time with a fucking beard. It was like,
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: oh man, it shows how much time has passed. But
- 1:19:53Speaker 6: then they shaved the next night. But anyway, what I'm
- 1:19:57Speaker 6: getting at is is he's on I feel like a
- 1:20:01Speaker 6: limitus a time frame here. I mean, this is the
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: guy who I thought was just done in general. So
- 1:20:08Speaker 6: how much time does Kevin Owens really have? And he's
- 1:20:12Speaker 6: forty two now, but remember he only had one Universal
- 1:20:16Speaker 6: title run. That was it and it was ended by
- 1:20:19Speaker 6: Goldbird out of all people, right, Like fuck, Kevin Owens
- 1:20:25Speaker 6: was a guy I felt like for years he should
- 1:20:27Speaker 6: have been a world champion again, and time after time
- 1:20:31Speaker 6: it just never happened. And then you know, he was
- 1:20:35Speaker 6: red hot when he was with Sammy and they beat
- 1:20:37Speaker 6: the Bloodline for the tag titles, you know, and I thought, okay,
- 1:20:42Speaker 6: this is perfect. You know, after this he could after
- 1:20:45Speaker 6: him and Sammy had done, you know, this to be
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: perk for him to pursue you know, the world title
- 1:20:51Speaker 6: then you know, more and more injuries.
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
- 1:20:55Speaker 6: And so when I was hearing that we're getting Punk
- 1:21:01Speaker 6: versus Kevin Owens, so that hit me, you know, after
- 1:21:04Speaker 6: this match, like, oh shit, we're gonna get Kevin Owens
- 1:21:07Speaker 6: versus Stampunk. And to me, that's something I've wanted for
- 1:21:10Speaker 6: like the longest time. You know. Uh, I just think
- 1:21:14Speaker 6: just the the two of them on the mic alone
- 1:21:18Speaker 6: is gonna be amazing. Like the promos are gonna be
- 1:21:22Speaker 6: so fucking good. Like I'm excited just for that. And
- 1:21:27Speaker 6: you know, these guys are both over, so I think
- 1:21:30Speaker 6: it'll it'll be just great for the fans. This is
- 1:21:33Speaker 6: gonna be very good. I am. So I just think
- 1:21:39Speaker 6: now's the time they're they're gonna pull the trigger with
- 1:21:42Speaker 6: This is the window if you're gonna do a Stampunk
- 1:21:45Speaker 6: versus Kevin Owens. And and finally, Kevin Owens get back
- 1:21:48Speaker 6: into the world picture because when was the last time
- 1:21:50Speaker 6: he was in the world title picture? Can you get
- 1:21:53Speaker 6: any of you guys remember Roman reigns. When Roman reigns the.
- 1:22:00Speaker 5: Yeah yeah Cody match, wasn't it Cody champion then?
- 1:22:07Speaker 8: Or not?
- 1:22:07Speaker 6: Oh wait?
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:22:12Speaker 5: Like ladder match or something.
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was right.
- 1:22:16Speaker 6: Yeah, let me see uh.
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: Before he went out?
- 1:22:21Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, uh yeah Ladder match February first, twenty twenty five.
- 1:22:30Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's good. I want to see Kevin
- 1:22:33Speaker 6: Owens back in the singles World title picture again, you know,
- 1:22:38Speaker 6: not the he said he vowed never to win the
- 1:22:41Speaker 6: IC title ever again because he has the same amount
- 1:22:44Speaker 6: of wins as mister Perfect and that's the way he
- 1:22:46Speaker 6: wants it.
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: Or is it?
- 1:22:48Speaker 14: Is it mister perfect or is it?
- 1:22:51Speaker 8: No?
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: Is it?
- 1:22:53Speaker 6: Owen Hart is one of them, mister Perfect or owen Heart,
- 1:22:57Speaker 6: but he doesn't want to surpass the same amount of
- 1:23:00Speaker 6: of icy wins that they have. Yeah, so I don't know,
- 1:23:04Speaker 6: maybe you know, I don't want to see him in
- 1:23:06Speaker 6: the nicely said or the tag titles, but even though
- 1:23:09Speaker 6: that might be the only thing to save Sammy's ass.
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: But but yeah, is this is this match? I didn't
- 1:23:17Speaker 6: bring that up the last match we talked about Gunter
- 1:23:19Speaker 6: and all. This is that something we keep on the
- 1:23:21Speaker 6: pay per view we take off?
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: I think it could go off.
- 1:23:26Speaker 13: So the only thing that really elevated it was the crowd,
- 1:23:30Speaker 13: and the crowd could have been just the fact that
- 1:23:34Speaker 13: you could have gotten the same crowd reaction at on
- 1:23:37Speaker 13: a SmackDown.
- 1:23:38Speaker 6: Yep, and and then this one with the fatal four way,
- 1:23:42Speaker 6: did we need this for the number of contender? This
- 1:23:45Speaker 6: should have been a SmackDown match. Can we agree on that?
- 1:23:49Speaker 5: No?
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: This this this had I would have kept this on
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: the p L.
- 1:23:52Speaker 6: E Oh, okay.
- 1:23:53Speaker 13: If you're gonna have a big if you're gonna have
- 1:23:54Speaker 13: a big return like a Kevin Owens, Yeah, you do
- 1:23:57Speaker 13: that on a paper.
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: You do that on a p L.
- 1:23:58Speaker 6: E Okay, I think it.
- 1:24:01Speaker 14: I think it stayed like yeah.
- 1:24:02Speaker 11: But also if you have a match with this much
- 1:24:04Speaker 11: star power and you give it more than ten minutes, also,
- 1:24:07Speaker 11: like this is another match, it could have been five
- 1:24:10Speaker 11: more minutes long ago, you know, like maybe should have been.
- 1:24:13Speaker 4: If this is a big this is supposed to be
- 1:24:15Speaker 4: the second biggest show of the year, you know what
- 1:24:17Speaker 4: I mean? Like, if this match is on SmackDown, it's
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: ten minutes whatever, But it's on pay per view, it's
- 1:24:22Speaker 4: unlike whatever they call it now.
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: Uh, you know, it's supposed to be a big deal,
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: Like it should be more than ten minutes.
- 1:24:29Speaker 15: You know, this is this is my highlight of the
- 1:24:32Speaker 15: night for three for you know, quite a few reasons.
- 1:24:36Speaker 15: I think it's like a three for one special. Really, Hey,
- 1:24:40Speaker 15: this was not on the card at all when we
- 1:24:42Speaker 15: did our picks and everything like, this was this was
- 1:24:45Speaker 15: I don't nowhere match I called a bonus match?
- 1:24:47Speaker 5: Why not?
- 1:24:49Speaker 14: It was on the card. So cool, we we get,
- 1:24:52Speaker 14: we get an extra on top of that.
- 1:24:55Speaker 5: I think.
- 1:24:57Speaker 14: If you want to keep good.
- 1:25:00Speaker 20: Said, Uh, do you guys want to talk about another
- 1:26:14Speaker 20: match that was under ten minutes.
- 1:26:18Speaker 6: That we probably talked about very Yeah, I know, right,
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: another one they could probably prob. Yeah, how about a
- 1:26:29Speaker 6: fatal influence defeated the Bellot Twins and Page and uh,
- 1:26:35Speaker 6: this dude, this match, dude. All I want to say
- 1:26:39Speaker 6: is all I want to say is like, fucking Niggy
- 1:26:42Speaker 6: comes back and Bree gets fucking injured. What the fuck?
- 1:26:50Speaker 6: It's like the universe doesn't not want them to win
- 1:26:53Speaker 6: those tag titles? Like, but then again, we said, these
- 1:26:58Speaker 6: tag titles have been curves. A lot of women get
- 1:27:01Speaker 6: hurt when they have these fucking tag titles. Remember when
- 1:27:04Speaker 6: Chelsea Verreen was going through tag fucking partners for a while,
- 1:27:07Speaker 6: they ken't getting hurt, Like, yeah, let's just get rid
- 1:27:12Speaker 6: of these titles. If women are getting hurt, the cursed
- 1:27:15Speaker 6: fucking have Dan Housen on the fuck Yeah right, Uh, what's.
- 1:27:24Speaker 5: The what's the girl that's the leader of sat All Attraction?
- 1:27:29Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacy Jane.
- 1:27:31Speaker 5: Yeah, I did the best part.
- 1:27:32Speaker 4: Of this match. The best part of this match was
- 1:27:33Speaker 4: her Seawn Michael's Sherry Martell era outfit while also kind
- 1:27:39Speaker 4: of looking like Sherry Martell at the same time.
- 1:27:41Speaker 5: That was pretty cool.
- 1:27:45Speaker 6: Yeah, and then we get the uh, the turn, the
- 1:27:49Speaker 6: Nikki Bella turn on Page, which I was calling it
- 1:27:52Speaker 6: as we're watching. I was like, Okay, now do the
- 1:27:54Speaker 6: turn because I just I personally think Nikki's better as
- 1:27:58Speaker 6: a heel than a face. And now that Breeze probably
- 1:28:02Speaker 6: fucking out, we're gonna have We're gonna have to do
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: a Nikki in Page feud again, even though we've saw
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: that how many times in the past, But why not,
- 1:28:10Speaker 6: you know, run it back. So we'll have that, and
- 1:28:13Speaker 6: then what'll happen is bree will come back and then
- 1:28:15Speaker 6: Page will get hurt. See that's how it works. And
- 1:28:18Speaker 6: because and then and then you know, because I heard
- 1:28:20Speaker 6: a j Lee was supposed to come back right and
- 1:28:23Speaker 6: tag with Page at some point but now that breeze
- 1:28:26Speaker 6: outly ain't gonna happen. So yeah, oh, don't need me
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: right now? Okay, So yeah, I got nothing else to
- 1:28:34Speaker 6: say about this match. Seven minutes, thirty seconds of our
- 1:28:37Speaker 6: time and going too long, too long. Uh, let's what
- 1:28:44Speaker 6: else must we got left on night one? The only
- 1:28:46Speaker 6: match we got left to Night one is seeing Punk
- 1:28:48Speaker 6: and Cody Rhodes. That was thirty minutes and ten seconds.
- 1:28:53Speaker 6: Holy shit, too long, very much too long, like the
- 1:28:58Speaker 6: amount of finished is that were done in this match.
- 1:29:01Speaker 6: The now listen, have you guys noticed Punk doing doing
- 1:29:08Speaker 6: this specific moon salt before in other matches? Because I
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: recall it.
- 1:29:15Speaker 5: It was a It was a Kerry Funk esque moon
- 1:29:18Speaker 5: salt for sure. I agree to Dory Funk Jr.
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: The Great, the Great Doory Funk Junior.
- 1:29:24Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I don't recall see him do it before.
- 1:29:28Speaker 4: But if you said I'm easily playing on my final
- 1:29:30Speaker 4: when felt a TV, I'm gonna be honest.
- 1:29:33Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:29:35Speaker 6: But yeah, I've seen it in Mass Members. Yeah, that
- 1:29:39Speaker 6: I don't think was supposed to happen. Yeah. Uh. And
- 1:29:45Speaker 6: then the table spot was.
- 1:29:47Speaker 5: Don't have a lot of chemistry, I don't think.
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: Yeah, that could be true too. I mean, it's two
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: good wrestlers. Why is it not working?
- 1:29:55Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: Uh, Cody's like a real pristine kind of like sports entertainer, right,
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: and Phil's more like like the Sabu used to say
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: that he would bought on purpose sometimes because that's what
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: happens in a real fight, and I think Phil says
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: he kind of does the same, like, oh no, I
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: didn't miss that spot.
- 1:30:15Speaker 5: And I was supposed to be like that, you know,
- 1:30:16Speaker 5: like whatever.
- 1:30:17Speaker 4: Film's kind of grittier and sloppier and more of a
- 1:30:20Speaker 4: pro wrestler, And sometimes those styles go great together, but
- 1:30:24Speaker 4: in this case, I don't think they do, right.
- 1:30:28Speaker 6: Mmm, well, uh, I don't know. Well, I guess we'll
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: we'll see where this feud goes. I mean, is Cody
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: is now I go, oh, yeah, Well we left out
- 1:30:44Speaker 6: the biggest part of the whole fucking match, the return
- 1:30:46Speaker 6: of Randy Orton at the end of the match. Yeah,
- 1:30:50Speaker 6: Randy r kaoing Cody Roads out of nowhere. Very satisfying
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: to see. Uh So, I mean we're gonna go great, huge, huge, Yeah,
- 1:31:01Speaker 6: I mean another return, right.
- 1:31:05Speaker 5: A bad guy, A bad guy attacking your number one
- 1:31:08Speaker 5: baby face. It is not for us to get that.
- 1:31:12Speaker 6: Right. Yeah, So, uh, that's gonna be interesting going into
- 1:31:16Speaker 6: this feud again, you know, with as over as Randy is.
- 1:31:20Speaker 21: You know, maybe we can get the fear we should
- 1:31:23Speaker 21: have gotten right, you know, without tucking that idiot Tad
- 1:31:27Speaker 21: McAfee this, maybe we should have gotten going into WrestleMania.
- 1:31:32Speaker 6: Yeah. Maybe they're gonna run it back. Yeah, you know,
- 1:31:38Speaker 6: maybe they had. Maybe that's why Randy was gone for
- 1:31:40Speaker 6: so long. It's like, maybe let it cool down. People
- 1:31:43Speaker 6: were pretty pissed off about that, and now we're gonna
- 1:31:46Speaker 6: let's do it right this time. Let's run it back
- 1:31:49Speaker 6: and do it right. So sure, I'm all for.
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: It, you know.
- 1:31:53Speaker 6: And now, like I said, we got Punk going into
- 1:31:57Speaker 6: this next feud with possibly Kevin Owens, so that shit's
- 1:32:01Speaker 6: very exciting. So I'm excited for both of these directions
- 1:32:03Speaker 6: for both these guys. And it's just funny because Doyle,
- 1:32:07Speaker 6: You're right, these just guys that don't have maybe just
- 1:32:10Speaker 6: the chemistry for each other right now. Maybe not now,
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: maybe again someday, but right now I'm just not feeling it,
- 1:32:15Speaker 6: and I don't think the fans were, so dude, Punk
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: look gassed in this match. Ah, I could try some
- 1:32:26Speaker 6: of the fucking, especially after the table spot. Uh it
- 1:32:31Speaker 6: was rough, but uh maybe it's just like you said, dude,
- 1:32:35Speaker 6: it's is far too long thirty fucking minutes and ten
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: seconds and Urka was only about two seconds of tape
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: our ko somebody. So uh yeah, that's it. The end
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: of the matches for Night one, you know. So we
- 1:32:53Speaker 6: definitely would keep Punk versus Cody. That's a match that
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: we keep on the card, right, I'm trying to write
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: down matches that we can eat. Okay, what we got next? Uh?
- 1:33:09Speaker 6: Baron Corbin Trick Williams with Little Yachty. What do you
- 1:33:13Speaker 6: guys want to talk about with this match? Besides Little
- 1:33:18Speaker 6: yacht miss his spot?
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:33:24Speaker 22: Why is the baby face like in a two on
- 1:33:28Speaker 22: one match against the heel and still losing? Like It's
- 1:33:32Speaker 22: just it didn't the bookings match didn't make much sense
- 1:33:35Speaker 22: to me.
- 1:33:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: It was this match I thought.
- 1:33:47Speaker 13: I'm not bothered by it too much, just as simple
- 1:33:49Speaker 13: fact that this allows Trick Williams to fully make the
- 1:33:55Speaker 13: baby face turn because to this, Prior to this, he
- 1:33:59Speaker 13: was still technically a heel even though he was getting
- 1:34:04Speaker 13: baby face pops. I think he was still technically a heel,
- 1:34:07Speaker 13: at least with him losing the baron Corbin, you can
- 1:34:10Speaker 13: fully lean into him as a babyface now and he
- 1:34:15Speaker 13: can be the one chasing, as opposed to be as
- 1:34:20Speaker 13: opposed to defending. And I think that may be a
- 1:34:23Speaker 13: better role for him to be in, especially for him
- 1:34:28Speaker 13: to go full babyface.
- 1:34:30Speaker 6: Drey. Let me throw this idea out to you with
- 1:34:33Speaker 6: Trick Williams. Trick Williams, the money in the bank briefcase holder,
- 1:34:41Speaker 6: imagine a fur white briefcase.
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: You lost me as soon as you said that, but
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: you see what he.
- 1:34:49Speaker 6: Did the ic title. Man, you don't think he did
- 1:34:52Speaker 6: the same thing that. I hate it too, but he
- 1:34:55Speaker 6: that's ww man. Like you know, now, the money in
- 1:34:58Speaker 6: the bank briefcase is created and then they sell a
- 1:35:02Speaker 6: version of it. You know, that's just the thing, just
- 1:35:05Speaker 6: like they were probably excited as fuck to try to
- 1:35:08Speaker 6: sell a I don't know if there is one, a
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: fur covered, white strap, fucking icy title, and.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: It was ridiculously overpriced.
- 1:35:19Speaker 13: This is what happens when people who ain't never had
- 1:35:21Speaker 13: no season and before finally taste something with some seasoning,
- 1:35:25Speaker 13: they don't know how to act, and then they want
- 1:35:27Speaker 13: to throw it on every damn thing as if it's
- 1:35:30Speaker 13: some revolutionary discovery. Well, you know, I like with some
- 1:35:34Speaker 13: season and it's like, oh man, he doing something these
- 1:35:37Speaker 13: cool things. Man, let's do this ship with everybody. Let's
- 1:35:39Speaker 13: do the sh everybody. Let's do this ship with everything
- 1:35:42Speaker 13: associated with them. Whether it makes sense or looks good
- 1:35:45Speaker 13: or not. Yeah, they have no idea, Like they have
- 1:35:51Speaker 13: the seasoning, but they don't know how to use the seasoning.
- 1:35:55Speaker 6: But I'm saying that's like a direction. I see them
- 1:35:58Speaker 6: going with him and letting Baron.
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: I mean money in the bank. Yes, I mean that.
- 1:36:04Speaker 13: I'm not opposed to like winning the money in the
- 1:36:07Speaker 13: bank briefcase. Sure, I think that's actually a good move
- 1:36:10Speaker 13: for him. Just do not wrap that motherfucker in for.
- 1:36:18Speaker 6: I mean, great to see Baron Corbyn back. I hope
- 1:36:21Speaker 6: they do something good with him this time. I have
- 1:36:24Speaker 6: don't waste him like they haven't wasting guys like russf
- 1:36:27Speaker 6: You know, they wasted out their black when they brought
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: him back. There's just certain guys they bring back him
- 1:36:35Speaker 6: and I feel like they get wasted. But it looks
- 1:36:38Speaker 6: like we might get that same issue with Big cast.
- 1:36:42Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys fell asleep during his
- 1:36:45Speaker 6: promo on Monday, and also when he returned, the crowd
- 1:36:49Speaker 6: went mildly quiet. I heard crickets and you hear that
- 1:36:53Speaker 6: guy in the background.
- 1:36:56Speaker 13: You know, he came back by himself, dude, no music,
- 1:37:00Speaker 13: him by himself.
- 1:37:01Speaker 6: No music, nothing, He's just standing in the ring. And
- 1:37:04Speaker 6: the fact that he was staying in the ring and
- 1:37:06Speaker 6: the crowd wasn't standing on their feet, and the crowd
- 1:37:08Speaker 6: wasn't you know, that's what happens that I'm off screen
- 1:37:11Speaker 6: when the crowd catches a wrestler running through, you know, uh,
- 1:37:16Speaker 6: like to get the way the crowd reacted on, Norton
- 1:37:18Speaker 6: came fancy the crowd, see everybody's standing up, you know.
- 1:37:22Speaker 14: But no, not Big Cast.
- 1:37:24Speaker 13: No, because again, nobody was hyped to see Big Cast.
- 1:37:29Speaker 13: People were hyped to see Cast and Enzo, right, people
- 1:37:33Speaker 13: were expecting the both of them together.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: So when you only get one, it's like yeah, right,
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: but like.
- 1:37:42Speaker 6: Right so so like I think with Baron Corbin immediately
- 1:37:46Speaker 6: putting him in a title picture and giving him the
- 1:37:49Speaker 6: nicest title, that tells me, like, okay, they're taking him serious.
- 1:37:53Speaker 6: You know, he's one of the guys that they're gonna
- 1:37:56Speaker 6: take serious his return. You know a lot of these
- 1:37:59Speaker 6: other guys that they brought back done much.
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
- 1:38:04Speaker 6: You don't think so. You think he's a transitional champion
- 1:38:07Speaker 6: right now like a else is.
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: I think he is to steal a to steal Michael
- 1:38:15Speaker 2: Hayes's phrasing.
- 1:38:16Speaker 13: I think he is enhancement talent. I think they brought
- 1:38:19Speaker 13: him back as a because he's an excellent worker. He
- 1:38:23Speaker 13: can have great matches with anybody. And I think they
- 1:38:26Speaker 13: brought him in to help build up and groom up
- 1:38:31Speaker 13: and help the next generation of guys get some good
- 1:38:35Speaker 13: quality reps in with a great a veteran experienced worker.
- 1:38:40Speaker 13: Like being on TV. He gets the benefit of being
- 1:38:46Speaker 13: getting regular work and you know, being featured in quality
- 1:38:51Speaker 13: feuds and matches and even pls here and there. But
- 1:38:56Speaker 13: I don't think they're taking him serious in the sense
- 1:38:58Speaker 13: of we might see him in a world title picture
- 1:39:01Speaker 13: no time soon.
- 1:39:02Speaker 5: No.
- 1:39:06Speaker 13: Yeah, he's gonna come back and be perpetually in the
- 1:39:09Speaker 13: mid card. He's gonna be the guy that people like
- 1:39:12Speaker 13: Trick Williams and Carmelo Hayes and others work with on
- 1:39:18Speaker 13: their way up to the next level, and if they
- 1:39:21Speaker 13: work well with them, they'll move up. If they don't
- 1:39:24Speaker 13: cut the mustard, then they'll fall back down. He's gonna
- 1:39:28Speaker 13: be the He's gonna be the measuring stick for these
- 1:39:31Speaker 13: up and comers to see if they have what it
- 1:39:34Speaker 13: takes to go to the next level.
- 1:39:35Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:39:37Speaker 13: I think that's the perfect role for him. Yeah, because
- 1:39:41Speaker 13: he has that type of credibility. You'll be able to
- 1:39:45Speaker 13: watch anybody have a match with uh, have a match
- 1:39:49Speaker 13: with Baron Corbyn, and you'll be able to look at
- 1:39:51Speaker 13: them and say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got it.
- 1:39:55Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:39:56Speaker 2: I watch them work with Baron Corben and be like, oh,
- 1:40:00Speaker 2: I like.
- 1:40:02Speaker 6: I like when he feuded with Seth Rawlins him and
- 1:40:05Speaker 6: Becky and uh it was him and Lacy Evans. That
- 1:40:10Speaker 6: was pretty cool given the man handles, was it the
- 1:40:15Speaker 6: What is his deep six? Is that his move deep
- 1:40:18Speaker 6: six to give that to Becky Lynch and yeh finishes
- 1:40:23Speaker 6: at deep six? Oh end of Days? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:40:26Speaker 6: he does use deep six, but end of Days is
- 1:40:28Speaker 6: his finisher. I guess that's his signature, you could say,
- 1:40:31Speaker 6: But yeah, he does the end of Days to Becky
- 1:40:34Speaker 6: and he looks at Seth what what are you gonna
- 1:40:36Speaker 6: do about it? You bitch?
- 1:40:40Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:40:41Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:40:41Speaker 6: Anyway, we only got two more messes, guys, I saved
- 1:40:46Speaker 6: the best two for last. All right, you got Dan Housen,
- 1:40:53Speaker 6: Dominic Masseio Human Money is on a pole match. The
- 1:40:58Speaker 6: winner keeps the US. The US one hundred thousand Dan
- 1:41:02Speaker 6: Houses sold from the judgment day.
- 1:41:05Speaker 13: So the final batch in the card tonight was Roman
- 1:41:08Speaker 13: Way Worst Rawlins Championship.
- 1:41:12Speaker 6: Wait wait, so like are we are we?
- 1:41:15Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:41:15Speaker 16: Yeah?
- 1:41:15Speaker 6: I forgot to ask once again? Are we keeping Baron
- 1:41:19Speaker 6: Cortman Trick Williams on the card or are we taking
- 1:41:21Speaker 6: it off the card?
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: It could have gone off?
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: Agreed? But yes this? Uh so we keep this Dan
- 1:41:31Speaker 6: House and Downing in stereo mask correct.
- 1:41:35Speaker 4: I can't remember if it was SmackDown or if it
- 1:41:37Speaker 4: was earlier in the SummerSlam broadcast on either night or whatever.
- 1:41:41Speaker 4: But they did a little ad blurb or not an ad,
- 1:41:43Speaker 4: but Michael Cole, you know, look out from this at
- 1:41:47Speaker 4: the w W REP store and it was the fake
- 1:41:50Speaker 4: Dan hous dollars that they're now selling. And obviously that's
- 1:41:55Speaker 4: what the Human Money's bag is going to be full of.
- 1:41:58Speaker 4: It's gonna be that, but so they kind of gave
- 1:42:01Speaker 4: that away. But like, you know, we I think we're
- 1:42:03Speaker 4: talking about this, They're they're fucking over exposing Dan Housen
- 1:42:07Speaker 4: so fucking badly so quickly. It's like, fuck me, I
- 1:42:12Speaker 4: get the guys printing money for you, but Jesus fucked,
- 1:42:15Speaker 4: don't machine.
- 1:42:16Speaker 5: Plugged in a little longer? Or or do you just
- 1:42:19Speaker 5: want to yank to plug out?
- 1:42:20Speaker 4: You know, like oh my and AND's And it's not
- 1:42:23Speaker 4: even that he's on every single show, multiple times a show,
- 1:42:27Speaker 4: but they're not doing anything different with him.
- 1:42:29Speaker 5: It's always the same ship.
- 1:42:31Speaker 4: And the only stuff that was interesting, Uh, they haven't
- 1:42:35Speaker 4: even mentioned in weeks that are fucking miss and wills
- 1:42:37Speaker 4: of the stuff that was actually kind of funny.
- 1:42:39Speaker 5: I was, why is this going nothing? Who's under that?
- 1:42:42Speaker 5: Under the sheet?
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: Nothing?
- 1:42:44Speaker 5: But we get mini Housens, mini Housings every fucking week.
- 1:42:48Speaker 5: We're doing the curse thing and the and the and
- 1:42:51Speaker 5: the you.
- 1:42:52Speaker 6: Know, bad tyro.
- 1:42:53Speaker 4: It's like a scene on this before like if if
- 1:42:57Speaker 4: we're gonna jam this guy up or ass at least
- 1:42:59Speaker 4: me a little different each time.
- 1:43:01Speaker 5: And what is Joe Henry doing in this field?
- 1:43:05Speaker 2: Dude? Oh the mess?
- 1:43:07Speaker 5: Like what a fucking mess.
- 1:43:09Speaker 4: And I am I'm a very big defender of these
- 1:43:12Speaker 4: goofball matches. I think wrestling needs comedy, but oh yeah,
- 1:43:19Speaker 4: and maybe on these big paper view cards it certainly
- 1:43:22Speaker 4: it doesn't need it anymore because because the popcorn matches
- 1:43:26Speaker 4: they used to call it, you know, to go get
- 1:43:28Speaker 4: get a drink or get into the bathroom, that match
- 1:43:30Speaker 4: is commercials.
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: Now you don't really need it. You don't really need
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: the blowoff match.
- 1:43:34Speaker 4: Anymore because you got fifteen fucking minutes of commercials between
- 1:43:37Speaker 4: each match now, well, so like, yeah, something like this,
- 1:43:40Speaker 4: it belongs to SmackDown or better yet none at all.
- 1:43:44Speaker 6: To your point, doile? The reason maybe is like the
- 1:43:47Speaker 6: original comedy acts, where are they? Where is Alpha Academy?
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: Right now?
- 1:43:51Speaker 6: They're dealing with the vision. Where is our truth? He's
- 1:43:55Speaker 6: tag partners with Damian Prize, Like the normal goofball people
- 1:44:00Speaker 6: that we have are busy doing other dumb ship I
- 1:44:03Speaker 6: guess right, So uh but yeah, I agree, dude, Yeah,
- 1:44:10Speaker 6: I agree though because literally before this podcast, I was
- 1:44:13Speaker 6: watching an episode of Hot Ones that included Dan Housen.
- 1:44:17Speaker 6: So now Dan Housen has his own like Hot Ones show,
- 1:44:22Speaker 6: so that's interesting, you play.
- 1:44:24Speaker 13: That's not a big deal, though everybody does. Everybody appears
- 1:44:27Speaker 13: on hot ones at some point. That's right, that's something
- 1:44:30Speaker 13: that you don't see unless you actively go out just
- 1:44:33Speaker 13: and seek out.
- 1:44:34Speaker 6: That type of content, right, But his I wasn't. I
- 1:44:37Speaker 6: wasn't like, who, I'm want to go watch an episode
- 1:44:39Speaker 6: of Hot Ones. I'm just scrolling through my YouTube and
- 1:44:41Speaker 6: then oh, now Dan House. Yeah, yeah, it's like I
- 1:44:46Speaker 6: fucking see this guy everywhere.
- 1:44:48Speaker 2: Like, I mean, that's just part of that. That's part
- 1:44:50Speaker 2: of the algorithm.
- 1:44:51Speaker 13: That's just the algorithm saying, oh, you watch a bunch
- 1:44:53Speaker 13: of wrestling shit, here's a wrestling guy doing doing a thing.
- 1:44:56Speaker 13: I mean, that's not a big deal. That's different from
- 1:45:00Speaker 13: warning this motherfucker into every episode of all every episode
- 1:45:03Speaker 13: of SmackDown, stupid ass matches on plis doing way more
- 1:45:07Speaker 13: restling than he rightfully should be like that, that is
- 1:45:12Speaker 13: him appearing on hot Ones is completely different from that.
- 1:45:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Knicks parade, he's all over ESPN
- 1:45:20Speaker 5: all the time.
- 1:45:21Speaker 4: You know, it's just like enough, you know, like give
- 1:45:25Speaker 4: us all this short, but spread it out over the
- 1:45:27Speaker 4: course of the year.
- 1:45:28Speaker 5: Not not twelve times.
- 1:45:30Speaker 4: And I don't need to see Dan Housen twelve times today,
- 1:45:33Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
- 1:45:34Speaker 5: Like I really like Dan Housen, but.
- 1:45:36Speaker 4: It's just like, God, damn it, Like do you need
- 1:45:39Speaker 4: to fucking beat the ship out of everything? Like, you know,
- 1:45:43Speaker 4: until I never want to see it again. You know,
- 1:45:46Speaker 4: Oh my God, enough enough Housen.
- 1:45:54Speaker 6: Damn, we're not getting Doyle Housen.
- 1:46:00Speaker 13: I feel bad for Dominant my stereo. Hey, he's a
- 1:46:04Speaker 13: guy who was a few just not a year or
- 1:46:09Speaker 13: two ago, was getting the most heel heat of anybody
- 1:46:13Speaker 13: in the whole damn company. And he was only a
- 1:46:16Speaker 13: mid carter And now he's doing this goofy shit losing
- 1:46:22Speaker 13: to Dan Housen as a as a world champion. Mind you,
- 1:46:29Speaker 13: Triple A Mega Champion can't be Dan Housen in a.
- 1:46:33Speaker 6: Match, right I Tyler. I mentioned to you the other day,
- 1:46:41Speaker 6: like who would dom be great to go agains for
- 1:46:44Speaker 6: that title? I frege who we say? I mean? I
- 1:46:47Speaker 6: did mention like maybe Penta now that Pensa doesn't have
- 1:46:49Speaker 6: the Icy title. You know, Penza going over to because
- 1:46:53Speaker 6: he has been over to Triple A a few times
- 1:46:56Speaker 6: with the Icy title, but to him show up there
- 1:46:59Speaker 6: and maybe be down for that title. That'd be cool.
- 1:47:03Speaker 2: You know, we're getting Don versus l Grande at Triplemania.
- 1:47:06Speaker 6: That's oh, is it? I actually missed the last few
- 1:47:12Speaker 6: so I didn't know where they were heading with that's
- 1:47:14Speaker 6: where there. It's also great.
- 1:47:16Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, I mean I haven't tuned in, and
- 1:47:18Speaker 13: I think I missed like the last two weeks. But
- 1:47:19Speaker 13: the last thing I saw was it seemed like Dom
- 1:47:24Speaker 13: and Grande Americano had formed almost like a partnership, and
- 1:47:29Speaker 13: we're gonna be in a tag match against I forgot
- 1:47:31Speaker 13: what he'll faction that they were going to match with,
- 1:47:33Speaker 13: But in that match, Dom basically turned on Grande Grandy
- 1:47:38Speaker 13: went for a tag and Dom just dropped from the
- 1:47:40Speaker 13: rope and left Nde Americano behind and teamed up with.
- 1:47:47Speaker 2: Uh, same guys that were that I Kingo.
- 1:47:52Speaker 13: He's got Omas and that other guy, and he's pretty
- 1:47:56Speaker 13: much aligned himself with them. I mean yeah, I mean
- 1:48:00Speaker 13: we we pretty much knew this from the moment Broade
- 1:48:03Speaker 13: American I had the Mask versus Mask match with Gable.
- 1:48:07Speaker 13: He's the hottest thing in Triple A. Dom is the
- 1:48:11Speaker 13: heel champion, even though he was getting baby Face popped
- 1:48:15Speaker 13: for a while down there. They finally found a way
- 1:48:18Speaker 13: to make him a solid heel down there in Triple A. Now,
- 1:48:20Speaker 13: so that's gonna be the path mm hmm.
- 1:48:26Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys want to move on to the main
- 1:48:30Speaker 6: event or or Tyler, you got anything you want to.
- 1:48:33Speaker 15: Add, just figuring out, like, yeah, you know what's next
- 1:48:39Speaker 15: for for for Penta, I can see I can see
- 1:48:43Speaker 15: him being that.
- 1:48:44Speaker 14: Got camp for a while. That would be a good
- 1:48:47Speaker 14: for h interesting.
- 1:48:53Speaker 6: Yeah, so all right. Uh that by the way, that
- 1:48:59Speaker 6: was only six missing fifty seconds. Thank god that we
- 1:49:04Speaker 6: can obviously we can put that on the do not
- 1:49:08Speaker 6: put on the card list. Uh yeah, damn. Hey, at
- 1:49:18Speaker 6: least we've got some midgets, right, so it's fun to
- 1:49:20Speaker 6: have midgets. Yeah you call it?
- 1:49:26Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the former eld Krino they're calling what do
- 1:49:29Speaker 4: they calling him Corino Housing or something whatever.
- 1:49:32Speaker 5: Anyway, he is older than Nickolls.
- 1:49:36Speaker 6: Oh interesting to make sure we got.
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: That out there.
- 1:49:39Speaker 6: It's very important details. Uh but you know what I
- 1:49:45Speaker 6: thought about too, It's like they've been on or in
- 1:49:48Speaker 6: WW long enough they probably have contracts, like short term
- 1:49:51Speaker 6: contracts right now. I was like, damn, these guys are
- 1:49:55Speaker 6: about short term contracts.
- 1:50:05Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:50:06Speaker 6: One person that's my vendom references. Thank you one person.
- 1:50:14Speaker 6: All right, let's talk.
- 1:50:15Speaker 4: About the references usually only word for movies people have seen.
- 1:50:23Speaker 6: Out. Uh uh, all right, let's talk. Let's let's talk
- 1:50:30Speaker 6: about the main event, the singles match for the World
- 1:50:34Speaker 6: Heavyweight title. This was the main event on Night two.
- 1:50:37Speaker 6: Lasted thirty three minutes and twenty five seconds, the longest
- 1:50:40Speaker 6: out of both nights. The only thing I really gotta
- 1:50:46Speaker 6: say about this match is Roman finally got a clean
- 1:50:49Speaker 6: win over Seth because there was a chance where he
- 1:50:55Speaker 6: had the opportunity to use the steel chair, and then
- 1:50:57Speaker 6: I would have I wouldn't have liked the way that
- 1:50:59Speaker 6: would turned out. I would been like, no, man, like
- 1:51:02Speaker 6: you don't have the the bloodline here to help you,
- 1:51:07Speaker 6: Like you don't, you don't need the blood line to
- 1:51:09Speaker 6: help you. You can beat Seth clean, like do it
- 1:51:13Speaker 6: without the fucking chair. And you know the fact he
- 1:51:17Speaker 6: was able to finally get that w over Seth, I
- 1:51:20Speaker 6: think that's just that means a lot. You know that
- 1:51:24Speaker 6: that means a lot for him, And like he said,
- 1:51:27Speaker 6: like this is the end of like their beef is done.
- 1:51:31Speaker 6: They did the fucking fisting at the end, and you know.
- 1:51:35Speaker 6: I know there are people probably like, oh wait, we're
- 1:51:36Speaker 6: gonna hear you know, uh Dean Ambrose's music, and I
- 1:51:42Speaker 6: was like, no, that's that's that's not happening. I did
- 1:51:45Speaker 6: see somebody with a sign though, that had a sign
- 1:51:47Speaker 6: that says we want Dean Ambrose or where is Dean Ambrose.
- 1:51:50Speaker 6: I think it was that they eventually got that taken down,
- 1:51:54Speaker 6: but uh yeah, that was up in the beginning of
- 1:51:57Speaker 6: the match.
- 1:51:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I said, I said about the build
- 1:52:00Speaker 4: that I thought it was weird, how how much of
- 1:52:03Speaker 4: it was about the shield? And then I can't say
- 1:52:05Speaker 4: Dean Ambrose or when they went out of their way
- 1:52:07Speaker 4: and edit them out as much as possible of the
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: shield stuff, and then think to this match and it's
- 1:52:13Speaker 4: all about the Ambres you know, says set the mask,
- 1:52:17Speaker 4: they did it, somebody did a paradigm shift.
- 1:52:20Speaker 2: Uh you know, Like it's just so.
- 1:52:25Speaker 5: It just fiffles my mind.
- 1:52:26Speaker 4: Either go whole high with it or don't do it
- 1:52:28Speaker 4: at all, like this weird hybrid of like, well, when
- 1:52:32Speaker 4: we feel like mentioned it, and we will, but sometimes
- 1:52:35Speaker 4: we don't, so we won't.
- 1:52:36Speaker 5: It's just it's just like it makes me fucking mind.
- 1:52:39Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.
- 1:52:42Speaker 4: Or they could go to fake Diesel, fake Razor route
- 1:52:44Speaker 4: and just get some other versa to play Dean Ambrose.
- 1:52:49Speaker 5: I think that might be a might be get some
- 1:52:52Speaker 5: NXT kid to play Dean Ambrose. That could be the solution.
- 1:52:58Speaker 14: What's that?
- 1:52:59Speaker 5: Uh?
- 1:53:00Speaker 14: Wallingall? Yeah, Grayson Waller, there you go. He's on NT.
- 1:53:08Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:53:08Speaker 15: He seems to be losing his ship, so you know,
- 1:53:13Speaker 15: give him some a couple more microphone moments where he
- 1:53:17Speaker 15: has to get cut off and they ask.
- 1:53:18Speaker 14: Escort amount or something.
- 1:53:20Speaker 6: But the uh, the the amount of finishers that they
- 1:53:24Speaker 6: they were in the Smash for Insane, Yeah, it was
- 1:53:28Speaker 6: the massive amount of finishers. It was just uncalled for.
- 1:53:32Speaker 6: Uh the spear for spear for spear after Superman punch
- 1:53:36Speaker 6: after you know, uh just yeah, the amount of stomps
- 1:53:42Speaker 6: and the super stomps and then Roman doing stomps.
- 1:53:45Speaker 14: Is Roman going for that spear though?
- 1:53:47Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 1:53:48Speaker 14: Seth converting it to a pedigree, Oh dude, Yeah.
- 1:53:51Speaker 6: I love he They He's always been able to deal
- 1:53:54Speaker 6: with the guys who can spare. He's done that with
- 1:53:56Speaker 6: like Jay Whoso and stuff. I think that's fucking awesome.
- 1:53:59Speaker 6: When he's the.
- 1:53:59Speaker 15: Smooth one though, because usually he has that that hiccup
- 1:54:02Speaker 15: where they go for the spear to get their arms
- 1:54:05Speaker 15: and everything and like turn it into a pedigree.
- 1:54:08Speaker 14: But it was smooth with Roman this time.
- 1:54:12Speaker 6: Yep, what up, Jay, what about let's hear it. Here's
- 1:54:20Speaker 6: some feedback on this.
- 1:54:23Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You would catch me as soon as I
- 1:54:26Speaker 2: took a bite.
- 1:54:28Speaker 14: That's rights convenience.
- 1:54:33Speaker 8: A pre.
- 1:54:35Speaker 2: I mean, the match was good.
- 1:54:37Speaker 13: It wasn't Romans seeing Punk from WrestleMania, but it was
- 1:54:46Speaker 13: a good match. It told his story, but it for me,
- 1:54:55Speaker 13: it was good but not great. Roman's best match this year.
- 1:55:00Speaker 13: It was still the match that he had with Punk
- 1:55:03Speaker 13: and WrestleMania. This one was not on that level. It
- 1:55:08Speaker 13: was it felt like a world title match. It was
- 1:55:12Speaker 13: good that they you know, wrapped up there, I guess
- 1:55:17Speaker 13: finished their story.
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: And now they're done for now. And I don't know.
- 1:55:26Speaker 2: I really don't have much to say about this match because.
- 1:55:31Speaker 13: It did his job, but I don't know that anything
- 1:55:34Speaker 13: about it really stood out to me as being special.
- 1:55:39Speaker 13: I mean, for me personally, I wasn't watching during the
- 1:55:42Speaker 13: whole Shield era, so I don't have that attachment that
- 1:55:45Speaker 13: everybody else has.
- 1:55:46Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe if I had watched it back then.
- 1:55:48Speaker 13: By then I would have felt maybe I would maybe
- 1:55:51Speaker 13: feel that connection more and maybe that stuff would have
- 1:55:53Speaker 13: hit me harder. I'm aware of the shield and all that,
- 1:55:56Speaker 13: of course, but I wasn't Again, I wasn't watching, so
- 1:56:00Speaker 13: that stuff to me just doesn't hit as hard as
- 1:56:03Speaker 13: it would for somebody who sat and watched through all
- 1:56:07Speaker 13: of that. So for me, I'm just judging the match
- 1:56:11Speaker 13: on the standard of a world title match in a
- 1:56:16Speaker 13: main event spot, and from that perspective, it did his job.
- 1:56:22Speaker 13: It was a worthy world title match. It was worthy
- 1:56:25Speaker 13: of the main event spot. Yes, but Roman has had
- 1:56:29Speaker 13: a match already earlier this year that was much better
- 1:56:35Speaker 13: than this and felt much more like a world title
- 1:56:40Speaker 13: main event level spot match as a Roman versus Punk
- 1:56:44Speaker 13: is in my Match of the Year candidacy, this one
- 1:56:49Speaker 13: is not.
- 1:56:52Speaker 4: Yeah no, I totally agree with you and just about
- 1:56:55Speaker 4: everything he said as far as shield the stals are goes.
- 1:57:00Speaker 5: It's hard to have any at this point because they've
- 1:57:02Speaker 5: they did it to death already. I mean they they
- 1:57:05Speaker 5: they they broke up and got any together you know,
- 1:57:09Speaker 5: five times, you know what I.
- 1:57:11Speaker 23: Mean like, and I feel like they've done this this
- 1:57:14Speaker 23: this semi you know, nod to the shield kind of
- 1:57:18Speaker 23: storyline several times. Also, you know, it's just like this,
- 1:57:22Speaker 23: you know, the same similar thing I complained about Dan Haiting.
- 1:57:25Speaker 23: I'll actually make the same complain about Romans that I
- 1:57:29Speaker 23: feel like I've haven't gotten.
- 1:57:30Speaker 5: Much new from Roman in a while, right.
- 1:57:33Speaker 4: Like, it's this what it was, right back to that
- 1:57:35Speaker 4: formula where like, you know, nothing really happens for those
- 1:57:39Speaker 4: five minutes.
- 1:57:39Speaker 5: There's a lot of staring, a lot of talking, and
- 1:57:42Speaker 5: then there's a lot of like uh in match dialogue,
- 1:57:46Speaker 5: you know, I.
- 1:57:47Speaker 4: Mean like and that becomes part of the way that
- 1:57:50Speaker 4: mountch is framed or the story of the match or
- 1:57:52Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it.
- 1:57:53Speaker 2: And it's just.
- 1:57:56Speaker 5: The reliance from mid match dialogue. It's just something nobody
- 1:58:00Speaker 5: else is really doing. But it's just like he's just
- 1:58:04Speaker 5: does the same thing over and over.
- 1:58:05Speaker 4: I feel like, if you've seen one Roman reigns match,
- 1:58:07Speaker 4: you've seen them all lately, and maybe that film match notwithstanding, uh,
- 1:58:14Speaker 4: it's just been't I didn't I feel like I haven't
- 1:58:16Speaker 4: seen didn't see anything I haven't seen before. You know,
- 1:58:18Speaker 4: I wish there had been at least one kind of
- 1:58:20Speaker 4: big spot, you know, even if it's as much one
- 1:58:23Speaker 4: of those cheesy throw them into the lights and boom,
- 1:58:27Speaker 4: you know, the boom boom boom goes off or whatever,
- 1:58:30Speaker 4: you know.
- 1:58:30Speaker 2: Just something.
- 1:58:31Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing. The only thing is about the whole show.
- 1:58:33Speaker 4: I remember Chelsea and Chad Gable and I think the
- 1:58:37Speaker 4: rest of it was basically forgettable. Well, I'm not gonna
- 1:58:41Speaker 4: remember this match in three months, you know. Uh, you're right, Yeah,
- 1:58:45Speaker 4: when it comes time to think about what's the match
- 1:58:47Speaker 4: of the year, I'm not even gonna.
- 1:58:48Speaker 2: Think about this, you know.
- 1:58:52Speaker 5: It's just it's kind of it was a good match.
- 1:58:55Speaker 4: It was fine match, but it was very formulaic kind
- 1:58:57Speaker 4: of you know. I feel like nothing I haven't seen for.
- 1:59:03Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, Tyler, I don't want to add anything. No,
- 1:59:08Speaker 6: not really.
- 1:59:09Speaker 14: I agree with you made a lot of great points, and.
- 1:59:13Speaker 6: Uh I.
- 1:59:16Speaker 14: At this point, ye.
- 1:59:21Speaker 6: Try I want to anything else.
- 1:59:25Speaker 13: No, I mean this Summer Slam was very mediocre. I
- 1:59:33Speaker 13: think overall, Night two was better than Night one. I
- 1:59:39Speaker 13: think WW did the best they could to hide just
- 1:59:41Speaker 13: how much of that stadium was not sold out by
- 1:59:45Speaker 13: completely tarping off the hard camp side and the fact
- 1:59:49Speaker 13: that they even moved the stage forward in the stadium itself, like, yeah,
- 1:59:57Speaker 13: I think that's like you wouldn't have noticed it really
- 1:59:59Speaker 13: on air, but if you see certain shots of the
- 2:00:02Speaker 13: stadium itself, they were not walking the.
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: Length of the football field to the ring that crowd was.
- 2:00:11Speaker 13: Maybe again, that's the NFL stadium, US Bank Stadium where
- 2:00:16Speaker 13: my Eagles won the Super Bowl for the first time.
- 2:00:19Speaker 2: Holds about over the Patriots.
- 2:00:27Speaker 13: That that stadium holds about sixty some thousand people and
- 2:00:32Speaker 13: they sold maybe half of it. So they basically what
- 2:00:35Speaker 13: they did was, if you think about the shape of
- 2:00:38Speaker 13: a football stadium, think about one of those end zones.
- 2:00:43Speaker 13: They probably moved the stage out to maybe about the thirty.
- 2:00:46Speaker 2: Yard line, wow, And then yeah, and.
- 2:00:52Speaker 13: That's where the interest was at, maybe about the thirty
- 2:00:55Speaker 13: yard line, put the hardcam in, told everybody to cram
- 2:00:59Speaker 13: cramped everybody in the rest of this area that the
- 2:01:01Speaker 13: hard camp would see, and tart taped off or tarped
- 2:01:07Speaker 13: off the hard camp side so that it looked packed
- 2:01:10Speaker 13: on camera. And to that credit, they did a good
- 2:01:12Speaker 13: job ver a glimpse, right, only glimpses of brief moments
- 2:01:19Speaker 13: here and there where you could actually see just you know,
- 2:01:22Speaker 13: what was actually there. But yeah, so that that gives
- 2:01:25Speaker 13: them credit. The only reason and only the reason why
- 2:01:27Speaker 13: I called is because I saw somebody's who was in attendance.
- 2:01:32Speaker 2: I think it was a video. It was a video
- 2:01:34Speaker 2: of the.
- 2:01:37Speaker 13: The the Finish TOEO and live match, and they were
- 2:01:41Speaker 13: on the side opposite of Hard Camp. So obviously when
- 2:01:44Speaker 13: they're recording, they're recording the ring facing the hard Camp side,
- 2:01:47Speaker 13: and boy, that bitch was empty over there. Yeah, I'm
- 2:01:54Speaker 13: tarp as far as that I could see. I mean,
- 2:01:57Speaker 13: if you if you look up pictures online, you you'll
- 2:02:00Speaker 13: see some price and pitches that people took that exposes
- 2:02:03Speaker 13: just just how much they did not sell out that stadium,
- 2:02:09Speaker 13: despite how despite their best efforts to make it look
- 2:02:13Speaker 13: good on camera.
- 2:02:14Speaker 6: Right, yeah, hopefully the next view, isn't it. That's fucking
- 2:02:19Speaker 6: bear with you know what do we have money in
- 2:02:22Speaker 6: the bank, Well, we have an NXT heat wave I'm sorry,
- 2:02:26Speaker 6: and then uh oh the Great American Bash and then
- 2:02:31Speaker 6: standing delivery.
- 2:02:33Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a smaller arenas or at the or at
- 2:02:39Speaker 2: the performance centers.
- 2:02:40Speaker 6: No, we're getting another serenade main event of course, of course, right,
- 2:02:47Speaker 6: maybe it's after that, I guess.
- 2:02:50Speaker 13: Yeah, there's no plas in September, I don't think, yeah,
- 2:02:54Speaker 13: until October and money in the bank, Money.
- 2:02:56Speaker 2: In the bank.
- 2:02:57Speaker 6: Yeah, money in the bank.
- 2:02:58Speaker 4: And then there's a Saturday Night Man event and the
- 2:03:02Speaker 4: and the Survivor Series, and that's it. I guess maybe
- 2:03:06Speaker 4: maybe December when we get this same John Sta Classic.
- 2:03:11Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
- 2:03:12Speaker 5: Maybe that'll be in December.
- 2:03:13Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 2:03:15Speaker 2: So all about that little damn thing you talked about.
- 2:03:17Speaker 6: With that said, right, here's what we have. If we
- 2:03:21Speaker 6: would have made Summer Slam one night. We would have
- 2:03:25Speaker 6: kept the uh, the Intercontinental Title match with Chad Gable,
- 2:03:29Speaker 6: we would have kept the WWE Women's Title match, the
- 2:03:33Speaker 6: w W Women's World Title match, Oben Brock, uh, the
- 2:03:40Speaker 6: Kevin Owens match, the Fatal four Way for the number
- 2:03:43Speaker 6: one contender, and we would have kept Punk versus Cody
- 2:03:48Speaker 6: and this match, this last match Roman and uh yeah, damn,
- 2:03:57Speaker 6: I just close it. I'm having a brain fart. Roman
- 2:03:59Speaker 6: and Rollins sorry yeah, Rollins. Uh yeah. That would have
- 2:04:05Speaker 6: been a good card. One, two, three, four, five, six,
- 2:04:09Speaker 6: seven matches. We got rid of the tag match, six
- 2:04:12Speaker 6: man tag match, Guntha versus.
- 2:04:14Speaker 5: Like all this.
- 2:04:15Speaker 6: We got rid of the men's United States Title match,
- 2:04:19Speaker 6: and we got rid of Dan Hauisen versus dumb That
- 2:04:23Speaker 6: could all been on the SmackDown prior or the roll after.
- 2:04:29Speaker 6: So uh yeah, so I have been since there's gonna
- 2:04:35Speaker 6: be a bit of a gap. I want to do
- 2:04:38Speaker 6: the uh not, you know obviously tonight, but like coming
- 2:04:42Speaker 6: up the Vince mcmanon bracket, I want to go over
- 2:04:46Speaker 6: a few of the rules here so I can get
- 2:04:47Speaker 6: some more input. It's going to be a terrible list
- 2:04:51Speaker 6: of things Vince has done.
- 2:04:53Speaker 14: Now.
- 2:04:54Speaker 6: I know we were discussing specifics, like are we talking
- 2:04:57Speaker 6: about personal life or just WW for right now, because
- 2:05:01Speaker 6: I feel like the other one could be a whole
- 2:05:02Speaker 6: new bracket by itself. I feel like now we should
- 2:05:05Speaker 6: just focus on things he has done within the company
- 2:05:08Speaker 6: as a character, mister van or should we or should
- 2:05:12Speaker 6: we also include things that he green lit, storylines that
- 2:05:15Speaker 6: he greenlit, you know, just things within the company. I
- 2:05:18Speaker 6: guess you could say that was.
- 2:05:21Speaker 16: You know, terrible, you know, so so now ultimately anything
- 2:05:28Speaker 16: that happened on TV exactly exactly, so.
- 2:05:33Speaker 2: I think it should be kept to just stuff that
- 2:05:34Speaker 2: he was directly involved in.
- 2:05:36Speaker 6: Okay, So I'll give off a few examples and we'll
- 2:05:40Speaker 6: see if this discounts as keeping in or getting rid
- 2:05:42Speaker 6: of the Montreal screwjob, keep it.
- 2:05:47Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
- 2:05:51Speaker 6: Obviously getting his head shaved at WrestleMania. You know we're
- 2:05:54Speaker 6: gonna keep that, do rag, Vince. We got a lot
- 2:05:58Speaker 6: of talk about when we get to that one. It's me, Austin,
- 2:06:02Speaker 6: it was me all along nineteen ninety nine, inserting himself
- 2:06:06Speaker 6: in a major storyline, Yeah, the Higher Power, the sedated
- 2:06:12Speaker 6: wife storyline in two thousand and one, wrestling against God
- 2:06:18Speaker 6: in two thousand and six, faking his own death in
- 2:06:23Speaker 6: two thousand and seven. Dude, just reading these back to back,
- 2:06:26Speaker 6: this sounds like a dude's life is just fucking crazy.
- 2:06:29Speaker 8: You know what I mean.
- 2:06:30Speaker 6: You wrestle against God in two thousand and six, You
- 2:06:32Speaker 6: faked your own death in two thousand and seven. You
- 2:06:35Speaker 6: made a female bark like a dog in two thousand
- 2:06:38Speaker 6: and one. This does sound like a rap sheet. You
- 2:06:42Speaker 6: had did a lot of segments with a male cheerleading
- 2:06:45Speaker 6: squad in two thousand and six. You also had illegitimate
- 2:06:50Speaker 6: bastard son storyline. You have a what do we see here?
- 2:06:56Speaker 6: I kissed my ass club? Yes we have. Vince McMahon says,
- 2:07:05Speaker 6: the end word. So those are some of my examples.
- 2:07:11Speaker 5: And does that last one fall under the purview of
- 2:07:15Speaker 5: do rag Vince?
- 2:07:17Speaker 17: That's what I said, That's what I said to Drey,
- 2:07:22Speaker 17: and Dre said no, he said that's its own thing.
- 2:07:25Speaker 17: And I said, okay, but is there Can you guys
- 2:07:33Speaker 17: give me a handful maybe a few others at the
- 2:07:36Speaker 17: top of your head that you can think of that
- 2:07:38Speaker 17: I can add to this list that I can put
- 2:07:40Speaker 17: into a random bracket, and we will generate these and
- 2:07:44Speaker 17: we will do a whole episode to this, and we
- 2:07:46Speaker 17: will get into some of these storylines the first round.
- 2:07:50Speaker 17: We will get into these storylines and as we progress,
- 2:07:53Speaker 17: maybe you'll remember something else from that storyline as we
- 2:07:57Speaker 17: progress and really get down to like, what was the
- 2:08:01Speaker 17: worst fucking thing that Vince did?
- 2:08:04Speaker 6: You know? On WW?
- 2:08:06Speaker 5: You know?
- 2:08:07Speaker 6: Uh?
- 2:08:09Speaker 4: How about the night the night they took over w
- 2:08:12Speaker 4: c W the last night Tron And Vince gets out
- 2:08:16Speaker 4: and he's like, every restaurant will have the opportunity to
- 2:08:19Speaker 4: keep their job except for Jeff Jarrince. That guy's fired.
- 2:08:26Speaker 2: That was a shoot.
- 2:08:28Speaker 5: That was a shoot. Uh, so I guess.
- 2:08:31Speaker 4: Singling out Jeff shared the first W and the on
- 2:08:34Speaker 4: the Last Night trou might be a consideration.
- 2:08:38Speaker 6: Okay, got that down, anybody else, come on, now, I
- 2:08:44Speaker 6: think of some just terrible vincent I know, I named
- 2:08:48Speaker 6: a lot of them already, a lot of the good ones,
- 2:08:52Speaker 6: you know, But I'm I'm sure there's something that involves poop.
- 2:08:58Speaker 6: There's something that involves something close to being you know,
- 2:09:04Speaker 6: racist of some kind. I'm sure a little edgy, something
- 2:09:08Speaker 6: that's close as sexual harassment. Of course, you know anything
- 2:09:12Speaker 6: was stable uh when when?
- 2:09:16Speaker 4: I mean not that I don't think his wife deserves it,
- 2:09:19Speaker 4: but he really did humiliate the fuck out of his
- 2:09:21Speaker 4: life on television and right it.
- 2:09:24Speaker 6: Was during that, especially during that I haven't written down
- 2:09:27Speaker 6: here when the sedated wife storyline two thousand and one, remember.
- 2:09:31Speaker 16: When she was in that wheelchair and when you said,
- 2:09:35Speaker 16: when you said sedated life, I thought she read when
- 2:09:38Speaker 16: uh when.
- 2:09:41Speaker 6: Drugged? Oh yeah, he green lit that. You know, there
- 2:09:47Speaker 6: was you know there, Yeah, there was a storyline that didn't,
- 2:09:56Speaker 6: thank God, take that continue or not continue to get
- 2:09:59Speaker 6: green lit. But he wanted to do an incest storyline
- 2:10:01Speaker 6: when Stephanie got pregnant in real life, that it was
- 2:10:05Speaker 6: his illegitimate child or whatever. It's like oh no, let's
- 2:10:11Speaker 6: let's not do that because Stephanie shut that down real quick.
- 2:10:16Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, I'm like, so there, and then that's
- 2:10:19Speaker 6: when I go I say out loud. So there is
- 2:10:21Speaker 6: a lot.
- 2:10:23Speaker 5: Didn't even.
- 2:10:26Speaker 6: Oh yes, An I quit match with Stephanie. I remember that. Yeah, yeah,
- 2:10:36Speaker 6: I do remember that matches too, right, Oh yeah, matters
- 2:10:42Speaker 6: with his son.
- 2:10:45Speaker 5: His children.
- 2:10:48Speaker 6: Uh no, I got one better. Remember when he thought
- 2:10:50Speaker 6: Zach Gowan the one legged wrestler, so he he also
- 2:10:54Speaker 6: he also fights handicap people.
- 2:11:00Speaker 2: Bust this motherfucker head open head, Vince leaking in that match.
- 2:11:04Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh man, uh.
- 2:11:12Speaker 6: Yeah. I just they're coming more and more to me.
- 2:11:14Speaker 6: So like as I'm writing down, you know, if you
- 2:11:18Speaker 6: guys think of any throughout the week or whatever, send
- 2:11:21Speaker 6: them to me. I within the next two weeks. I
- 2:11:23Speaker 6: would like to do this episode for sure, because it
- 2:11:26Speaker 6: sounds pretty fucking exciting because we already got a handful thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
- 2:11:36Speaker 6: six about sixteen so far.
- 2:11:38Speaker 8: So.
- 2:11:41Speaker 5: That's a pretty good number for a tournament.
- 2:11:43Speaker 6: Yeah right, already, that's pretty sad that we can think
- 2:11:46Speaker 6: of sixteen things that Vince did. I mean, like, Doyle,
- 2:11:49Speaker 6: can you think of sixteen terrible things you do at
- 2:11:51Speaker 6: work to put them into a bragget Oh yeah, you
- 2:11:58Speaker 6: know right right things?
- 2:12:00Speaker 2: Are you right?
- 2:12:01Speaker 6: Things? On the basketball guy?
- 2:12:04Speaker 5: Uh, I'm scratching, scratching.
- 2:12:08Speaker 6: Oh yeah, here, I sit tired and dirty. I'm only
- 2:12:11Speaker 6: wasting time until two thirty.
- 2:12:13Speaker 10: You know.
- 2:12:14Speaker 6: Like when they get make a dollar, I make a dime.
- 2:12:20Speaker 5: H I like, uh here I sit broken hearted, tried
- 2:12:23Speaker 5: to ship but only farted.
- 2:12:25Speaker 6: Ah yeah, dude, well they make a dollar, I make
- 2:12:27Speaker 6: a dime. That's why I shipped on company time. It
- 2:12:30Speaker 6: is all good. Yeah, go ahead, we have married you in.
- 2:12:34Speaker 15: A while involves uh young where she u oh okayant
- 2:12:40Speaker 15: and gave birth.
- 2:12:41Speaker 5: To over hand.
- 2:12:44Speaker 6: Yeah that's another one that like he green lived but
- 2:12:49Speaker 6: yeah he wasn't really involved in that one. No, so
- 2:12:52Speaker 6: we're doing directly like yeah, that he's directly more or
- 2:12:55Speaker 6: less like he's directly involved because then like then you
- 2:12:57Speaker 6: might as well include like the story line that Doyle
- 2:13:00Speaker 6: brought up where Triple Ah drugged Stephanie and took her
- 2:13:05Speaker 6: through a drive through fucking you know what I mean, Like,
- 2:13:10Speaker 6: uh yeah, this is some other crazy storylines in WW,
- 2:13:14Speaker 6: and that's WW as a whole. You know, but the
- 2:13:18Speaker 6: fact that the man behind the scenes got involved and
- 2:13:24Speaker 6: what he's willing to put himself in to put himself over,
- 2:13:28Speaker 6: you know. I mean, the man won the ECW title,
- 2:13:32Speaker 6: like he's won the WWE title I think at one
- 2:13:36Speaker 6: point in the nineties right in the add he ere
- 2:13:38Speaker 6: he won the title. So yeah, he's willing to do
- 2:13:42Speaker 6: whatever it takes to put him fucking self over. So
- 2:13:47Speaker 6: but yeah, it's it's been a long episode. Not too bad.
- 2:13:51Speaker 6: That's this format. I don't mind. This is pretty good.
- 2:13:54Speaker 6: Get like a nice rown table. Doesn't sound like we're
- 2:13:56Speaker 6: kind of twisting our arm with the next match that's up.
- 2:13:58Speaker 6: We kind of go with the flow.
- 2:14:00Speaker 10: Uh.
- 2:14:02Speaker 6: I feel like I don't have to sit here and
- 2:14:03Speaker 6: take like hard notes now on matches. We just kind
- 2:14:06Speaker 6: of how we feel about the match.
- 2:14:08Speaker 5: You know.
- 2:14:09Speaker 6: Oh so we'll do this again. But h tray, do
- 2:14:14Speaker 6: you have anything you want to plug her anything before
- 2:14:15Speaker 6: we go?
- 2:14:18Speaker 13: No, here's always Instagram, dot com, Slash podcast, Championship Wrestling.
- 2:14:23Speaker 6: All right, Doyle, anything you want to plug?
- 2:14:28Speaker 4: Oh no, just you know, catch up on the discord
- 2:14:31Speaker 4: and we'll give him the Facebook page you like.
- 2:14:34Speaker 6: Bye, Tyler later, all right?
- 2:14:37Speaker 24: All right, that's it, folks, all right later, you are
- 2:14:44Speaker 24: the world dumbest, shut up a.
- 2:14:47Speaker 7: Bit fat that day in and day out, for almost
- 2:14:52Speaker 7: six years, I improved everybody in the world that I
- 2:14:55Speaker 7: am the best on this microphone and in that break
- 2:14:58Speaker 7: and give.
- 2:14:59Speaker 2: It a comment to nobody.
- 2:15:01Speaker 5: Can touch me.
- 2:15:02Speaker 8: You are not really God because the street.
- 2:15:08Speaker 24: Propet up and we watched the stom your talk about
- 2:15:17Speaker 24: your songs, talk about John three sixteen, Mom step three
- 2:15:21Speaker 24: sixteen says, I just whipped your ass.
- 2:15:25Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, fucking brother.
- 2:15:30Speaker 8: Far who new game.
- 2:15:38Speaker 2: Queen Praise to the top more year, my true madness year.
- 2:15:43Speaker 2: Welcome to the tovin Owen Show.
- 2:15:48Speaker 6: Lately he just hasn't been Harry Hussey.
- 2:15:54Speaker 2: Because I'm of this.
- 2:15:57Speaker 17: And I'm.
- 2:16:02Speaker 2: So those rotten rostes.
- 2:16:12Speaker 8: Bye Bye, B's