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Rory, How Much Do you Like this Person? Part 1 (S2, E12 "Richard in Stars Hollow") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. That's you. I Am all in
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  Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast right everybody. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're loading up another episode here Richard and stars Hollow.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought of this one, but
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost, I'm Scott Patterson and this is the
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  Speaker 1: I Am All In podcast on our radio. I want
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  Speaker 1: to let in productions. I'm joined by the luminous Riley
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  Speaker 1: Pelusis from her home office, and Amy Sugarman with a
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  Speaker 1: vase like a ming Dynasty homeless. I'm at my mom's.
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  Speaker 1: Are you at a museum? You're really right now? My
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  Speaker 1: furnace is having some issues, so I'm at my mom
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  Speaker 1: So there is Your furnace cannot be having issues. It's
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  Speaker 1: an at an object. You're having issues with your furnace? Wait?
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  Speaker 1: Most of how do you feel? How does Riley feel?
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  Speaker 1: How does Danielle feel? Who's going to be here in
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  Speaker 1: two minutes? Riley, how do you feel? I feel great?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you? Are you out of COVID? Are
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  Speaker 1: you out of it? I am I am out of COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Those around me are not out of COVIDEZ myself and
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  Speaker 1: I in my home office and out of COVID. Can
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  Speaker 1: you get recovided from the other people? So once once?
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm coming out of it, Can I get it again?
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  Speaker 1: Like again and again and again? Riley's had it twice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm liking. I'm liking knocking myself out at night with
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  Speaker 1: the severe cold and flu formula. I'd like that. And
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  Speaker 1: then I thought, after seven nights in a row of that,
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  Speaker 1: I thought this could be potentially dangerous, so maybe I
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  Speaker 1: should stop doing it. So I stopped doing it. There's there,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not sleeping as well, so I have to
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  Speaker 1: find a substitute for the cough syrup. I've been to
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  Speaker 1: the gym for a couple of days. I got a
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  Speaker 1: mask on, I got you know, I got a whole
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  Speaker 1: thing going on. You know, I'm doing some light workouts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling I'm feeling markedly improved. Thank you. First. But well,
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  Speaker 1: now I have the next scary question. Tell me, tell me,
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  Speaker 1: ask me. What what did you think after last week?
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  Speaker 1: This episode of this episode? What did I think of
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  Speaker 1: this episode? Well, okay, so I thought that this episode
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  Speaker 1: was firing on all cylinders. I thought that as far
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  Speaker 1: as the Frank Lombardo script was concerned, it was absolute perfection.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the acting was absolute perfection. I thought the lighting,
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  Speaker 1: the time, the flow, everything about this episode was firing
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  Speaker 1: on all cylinders. It was maybe the best episode, complete
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  Speaker 1: episode tied in a nice package that I have seen. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll go that far. But I definitely loved
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  Speaker 1: this episode. No, no, that I enjoyed other episodes more like,
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  Speaker 1: let's skip the last one and then the two prior
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  Speaker 1: to that, We're just hit it out of the park.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought, as far as you know, the limited
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  Speaker 1: scope that this one had, it was a little larger
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  Speaker 1: than the prior week, which I did not like. It
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  Speaker 1: really hit it out of the park. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: performances were stunning. Yeah, I thought the writing was stunning
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  Speaker 1: right from the get go, right from the get and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going out of order, but we'll get back to this.
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  Speaker 1: But you really see how talented Jared Paddock he is
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  Speaker 1: in the scene when he is going toe to toe
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  Speaker 1: with Edward Herman, It's like, wow, that must have been
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  Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid. Yeah, just just you know, trading
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  Speaker 1: punches with the with with the champ totally and hanging
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  Speaker 1: in there and delivering his own blows. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why I keep using boxing and no, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a perfect analogy because it was that. It was like, wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because that wasn't aggressive, that was a battle. That scene
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  Speaker 1: was a battle by the car with Rose. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you realize why Jared's gone on to like be the
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  Speaker 1: huge star of Supernatural, because he's really talented. He's not
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  Speaker 1: just a pretty face with long hair. He's not just
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  Speaker 1: a pretty face. He's tall. He's not just tall, right,
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  Speaker 1: He's got some skills. Definitely. We'll break that scene down
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  Speaker 1: more as we go, but so we'll touch briefly on
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  Speaker 1: not everybody, but some people did agree with you about
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  Speaker 1: last week. So they didn't like rip you a new one.
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  Speaker 1: Like they were fair and they weren't super hateful. I
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  Speaker 1: knew I was gonna stepped in it with that one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look who decided to show up? Danielle Romo. Ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to the podcast, young lady. How are
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  Speaker 1: you feeling. I'm feeling great. I'm here. I am ready
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  Speaker 1: to recap this episode. What did you think of it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of the episode? I was actually
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  Speaker 1: talking to Riley earlier this morning. I liked I like
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  Speaker 1: every Gilmore Girls episode I'm not going to say I
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  Speaker 1: don't like one, because I love them all. Just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: top five because you missed it, because for Scott it
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  Speaker 1: could be definitely top five. Okay, so here, okay, So
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  Speaker 1: so I'm saying script wise technically speaking. And I thought,
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  Speaker 1: if if I were Lauren Graham, this would be the
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  Speaker 1: episode that I would submit for awards consideration because it
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  Speaker 1: had so any colors in it and so many great
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  Speaker 1: lines delivered with such finesse um. And I thought the
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  Speaker 1: timing on everybody see the editing. The editing was so
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  Speaker 1: great on this one too. I mean, it was just
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  Speaker 1: such a perfect package. But but there's a butt, there's
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  Speaker 1: a butt, there's a butt. Nervous it. It was so sad.
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  Speaker 1: I was so depressed at the end of this episode,
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  Speaker 1: and I think obviously because of the loss of Ed Herman,
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  Speaker 1: and here he was playing an unfamiliar role of a
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  Speaker 1: man without a job, a man without a purpose, and
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  Speaker 1: that final scene of him sitting in his chair in
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  Speaker 1: his office with nothing to do. Um, you know he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna rearrange his stamp collection. I mean, it was just
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  Speaker 1: such a downer for me. And the tone of the show,
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  Speaker 1: the tone of this episode was down or down, down,
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  Speaker 1: own her down, or as funny as they tried to,
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  Speaker 1: as funny as it was, and as many laughs as
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  Speaker 1: I got out of it, it was like, what is
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  Speaker 1: this show? What is this show trying to be? And
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  Speaker 1: now I can see how the critics were a little
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  Speaker 1: bit confused or a lot confused. Um by what is
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  Speaker 1: this show trying to be? Is it a drama? Is
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  Speaker 1: it a comed comedy? Is a drama? What is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of ship shape shifts a lot. It becomes
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  Speaker 1: this heavy drama, it becomes this quippy, funny little comedy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, that's what I love about it? Right? No, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: But it is a bit schizophrenic, isn't it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it really does toy with you and it takes you
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  Speaker 1: on this real roller coaster ride intentional or not. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the net effect. But I was especially left
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  Speaker 1: empty and I was left without hope at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this episode. I don't like feeling that way. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like feeling like there's no hope and I you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen it either, Do you feel the same way
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  Speaker 1: as Scott? Because I'm the wrong person to ask, because
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  Speaker 1: I know what's coming because I'm used to like belly laughing,
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  Speaker 1: like tears coming out, thinking the show so funny. And
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  Speaker 1: this episode, Scott, you hit the nail on the head.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like it was just a downer. I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, oh, this like guy is like reting
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  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have anything, and this whole show centered
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  Speaker 1: around how like bitter he is that he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: anything to do now. But also it's like how do
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  Speaker 1: you measure? And again, this is this is what this
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  Speaker 1: show of visits upon its audience. This is where it goes.
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  Speaker 1: It goes to this place. It's established this premise where
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  Speaker 1: this girl, this daughter left home, has no relation. All
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  Speaker 1: those years gone, sixteen years wiped out. And then suddenly
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  Speaker 1: Rory uh wants to go to private school. So now
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  Speaker 1: they're back in business with the parents. But the sixteen
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  Speaker 1: year gap where life wasn't lived, where love wasn't given,
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  Speaker 1: where love wasn't accepted, where life didn't happen, it was
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  Speaker 1: like it's like you're in outer space. I saw ad
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  Speaker 1: Astra recently with Brad Pitt, and I just think he's
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  Speaker 1: a good movie. Did like, I love that movie because
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't trying to be anything other than it was.
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  Speaker 1: And I like the starkness of what Brad Pitt brings
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  Speaker 1: as a producer, and I really like his choices as
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  Speaker 1: an actor. And I like the roles that he chooses
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  Speaker 1: when he's you know, when his production company is doing
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  Speaker 1: the film, which is like all the films he does. Now, Um,
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  Speaker 1: he's very prolific. But so that film left me with
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  Speaker 1: this with a little more hope. He's slipping around in space.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to comment because I know what's coming.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll sort of let you and l be more
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  Speaker 1: present in the episode, should we. Okay, let's take a
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  Speaker 1: break because there's so much in this and I want
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  Speaker 1: to just start asking you guys questions. Okay, let's take
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  Speaker 1: a break, all right, So we're gonna take a little break.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna take a little trip to Jupiter
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  Speaker 1: and Mars, and we're gonna come back with Brad Pitt
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we're going to discuss this vacuous empty space
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  Speaker 1: between Yeah. Right. I definitely want to brush my tea,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't do yet. I would shave, I would
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  Speaker 1: try to look more presentable wearing and I want to brush.
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  Speaker 1: I watched Fury last night till I'll review that too. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be back after these works. Yeah, okay, everybody, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is not here yet. We're still waiting. Have
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  Speaker 1: you made that? Have you? Have you? Have you reached
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  Speaker 1: out Amy? Have you reached out to break? I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they'll get right back to me. Let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: this as a guest, A million questions as I want
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  Speaker 1: to ask him. I think he's a he's a very
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  Speaker 1: gifted producer, is a very gifted act There's a million
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  Speaker 1: questions I want to ask the guy. Get right on that.
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  Speaker 1: Plus a guitar player he plays. Just like, we'll go
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  Speaker 1: through this episode because it's got so much in chronological order.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start right from the beginning when Emily asked are
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  Speaker 1: you dating? And I even was like, where's she going
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  Speaker 1: with this? Isn't it? Isn't it powerful? When we get
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  Speaker 1: an unexpected opening with an unexpectedly optimistic, energetic Emily. When
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  Speaker 1: you see that the mother and the daughter actually have
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  Speaker 1: a relationship and they're not hating on each other and
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  Speaker 1: they're depending on each other, and this felt like a
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  Speaker 1: real mother daughter relationship that was somewhat healthy. But where
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  Speaker 1: the communication was open where it was like it was
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  Speaker 1: hysterically funny, right, And it was really the high point
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  Speaker 1: of the show for me because it was the best
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  Speaker 1: opening of of an episode that I have seen. I
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  Speaker 1: don't disagree with you on that because it totally She's like,
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  Speaker 1: are you the man in the diner? Doesn't shame because
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about the family mausoleum, And like then Lord
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  Speaker 1: lines the perfect line like did not see that coming? Comedy,
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  Speaker 1: They're ready to just ship her down. The whole openings
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  Speaker 1: comedy gold exactly and absolute a little bit foreshadowing because
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  Speaker 1: at the very end, Richard comes down and you realize,
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  Speaker 1: h Richard is retired and has nothing to do but
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  Speaker 1: see if the vase moved three inches? But how to
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  Speaker 1: maintain that tone, that spirit, that energy throughout this entire episode,
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  Speaker 1: because man, it started out like a house on fire,
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  Speaker 1: and what a perfect tone that they captured, and even
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  Speaker 1: Richard coming in and contributing to the to the mausoleum
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  Speaker 1: joke and the oil awful horrible woman. And then she
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  Speaker 1: still has his whatever the word is because he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I have a you know, first edition flow Bear, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know he's bonding with Rory and off they go,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when we learned that Emily is losing her
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  Speaker 1: bleep because Richard has nothing to do, and it's just
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  Speaker 1: like you know, and needs needs her daughter's help. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she's being human, she's being vulnerable, she's being open, she's
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  Speaker 1: pleading with her daughter, having this relationship with her daughter
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  Speaker 1: that I haven't seen before. It's the first time I
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  Speaker 1: have seen this dynamic between these two two women, and
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  Speaker 1: it was so refreshing to to to see a laurel
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  Speaker 1: Ie that was caught off guard, that was sort of
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  Speaker 1: caught back. I mean she wasn't being defensive, she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: being nasty. I mean she was being a quippy, funny self,
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  Speaker 1: but she wasn't attacking her mother, and she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do it. She's like you, yeah, I got your back.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that so powerful? Isn't that just so much? A
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  Speaker 1: pleasant to watch? This episode was much more about the
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  Speaker 1: conflict that still exists between Richard and Laura Lae, which
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into Emily and we're cruising, yeah, And that's
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  Speaker 1: that's what left me with no hope at the end,
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  Speaker 1: is those two don't have a relationship. They really don't
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  Speaker 1: have a relationship. There's sixteen years lost, there's regrets, recriminations,
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  Speaker 1: there's time that will never be made up, and now
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  Speaker 1: is retired and how much longer does he really have? No,
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting that you bring that up, because we are
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  Speaker 1: seeing the ups and downs, but the progress between Emily
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  Speaker 1: and Lorelei where we really haven't dug into it. With
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  Speaker 1: Richard and Laura Lee, this is really the first time.
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  Speaker 1: They were probably little glimpses, but this is really the
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  Speaker 1: one because that fight in the living room was rough.
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  Speaker 1: That was rough, boy, that was hard to stomach. And
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  Speaker 1: then when he left and didn't stay for dinner that
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  Speaker 1: broke my heart and then lied to Emily. But we're
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  Speaker 1: going out for it, so alright, So now so now
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  Speaker 1: we go, Okay, go ahead, question, go ahead, Have any
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  Speaker 1: of you before we move on eating sweetbreads because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what they were and I did certainly didn't
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  Speaker 1: know they were pancreas. That was a great scene, even
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  Speaker 1: that take like that that frozen Laurela right there, pancreas.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I mean that was It was a perfect, perfect,
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  Speaker 1: perfect setup. The whole thing was perfect. That opening. I
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  Speaker 1: watched that opening three times and it was lawless. It
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely the best. Good on your Frank Lombardo. Great episode.
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  Speaker 1: And have you eaten sweetbreads? I have not, Danielle Riley
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  Speaker 1: can't can't say that. I have no, no, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were bread, not bread. All right, So
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  Speaker 1: next here we go nervous. I'm very nervous. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: here's look listen, I don't know why anybody I mean this,
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  Speaker 1: This girl is so crazy. I mean now she wants
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  Speaker 1: to she wants to take on stars Hollow and smear
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  Speaker 1: the town and smear the town's people who Stars Hollow
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  Speaker 1: and Gilmore fans and people in the show. I mean
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  Speaker 1: even Rory was like, you're you're you know you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: give yourself a stroke one day, right, I mean, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: give me a break, give me a break. She's a
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  Speaker 1: complete psychopath. I mean, nothing stands in her way. She's
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  Speaker 1: willing to rip apart Rory, Rory's hometown, Rory's reputation, the
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  Speaker 1: reputation of Stars Hollow, the reputation of these people. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't care. She just wants to write. She just wants
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  Speaker 1: to get into Harvard. I mean, talk about a level
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  Speaker 1: of ruthless Paris is gone. Yeah, I mean ye bye bye.
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  Speaker 1: That was funny. Yes, when Louise said that, right, Paris
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  Speaker 1: gone by. I mean it's like what an overbearing crazy
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  Speaker 1: girl when she went into the diner. I that was
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  Speaker 1: my favorite scene of the whole episode. I agree, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: That was my first laugh out loud when I looked
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  Speaker 1: at Rory and says, Rory, how much do you like
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  Speaker 1: this person? Or what is that what he's saying? Because
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: because he was He's going to deliver like the killer blow,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: and he meant it right, but he wanted to check
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  Speaker 1: with Rory first to see how much I am not
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: mad at here because I love the setup that got
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  Speaker 1: her two stars Hala, because I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be good. Let's bring her in the stars.
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  Speaker 1: No entertainment value through the roof. I appreciate the humor
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  Speaker 1: that it provides, but let's just look at this character.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at this character because I'm believing that this
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  Speaker 1: place exists. I'm liking these people. I'm trusting these people.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching them every week. I'm they're part of my family.
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  Speaker 1: They are my family, for God's sake. I spent all
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  Speaker 1: this time with him and then you've got the psychopath
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  Speaker 1: who's plotting the demise of the reputation of the place
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  Speaker 1: of Rory, of stars, hollow of anybody that inhabits that town,
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  Speaker 1: so that she can get ahead. It's the that's it's
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  Speaker 1: the definition of psychopathology. I mean, she's she's nuts, she
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  Speaker 1: needs but she needs to be but the funny but
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  Speaker 1: the but the thing is okay, so so so so
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  Speaker 1: now I get it, all right. It's like it's so
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  Speaker 1: over the top that nobody really takes it seriously because
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  Speaker 1: they know it will fail. Yeah. Right, She's just like
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  Speaker 1: the netball. It's like nothing, no scheme that she hatches
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  Speaker 1: has really taken seriously. Although they take it seriously, it's
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  Speaker 1: really not taken seriously because it's just too crazy. It
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  Speaker 1: over the time. And I thought this was quite interesting.
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  Speaker 1: When Paris is no, no, no, and we need to
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  Speaker 1: do this in this in the first meeting at the paper,
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  Speaker 1: she's sort of unhinged and Rory takes over. Did you
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  Speaker 1: notice that, Like Rory's at the table in the journalism
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  Speaker 1: room and she's like, okay, guys, Like Paris throws out
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  Speaker 1: this nutty thing of what they have to do, and
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  Speaker 1: then Rory is really the leader, going all right, let's
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  Speaker 1: start brainstorming, let's start. And I thought that was interesting. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's just trying to get her you know. And thing
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  Speaker 1: where Paris complimented Rory, it was sort of like Paris
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  Speaker 1: is like nobody did a good job. Well you did,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, like it's like she knows that Rory
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  Speaker 1: is like the one that's going to pull off her
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like Crayess zen Master compared to that ball. Okay, so
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: now we must before we dig into that more. She's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: sitting there at the counter accusing Luke of running a brothel,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of being a pimp, of having girls upstairs and charging
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for them. And how great was Milo slash Jess Amazing?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Like he just came in and nailed it. Milo nailed
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: both scenes that he was in so hard because we'll
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: get to the end too, Like I love that they
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just are not giving us just NonStop Milo, They're just
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: giving us like little glimpses of Jess. And I love
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: every scene he is in. Yeah, well you couldn't. You
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: couldn't handle too much Milo, because any take over the show. Yes,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he's so awesome, he'd take over the show. That's why
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you just get little glimpses. You're getting little glimpses of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Milo of Luke because you don't want these people to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: take over the show. His cameo shirt was a ten
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: out of ten. But we're too powerful. These characters are
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: too powerful, So we're going in order. What did you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: think of the scene where sore so you know, as
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the show jumps around. I just love when Richard comments
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: not only on Emily drinking three cups of coffee, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Laurel I bringing freak was a go a lot of coffee. Well,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: well we'll get into that more. But you know, Richard
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was just being a pain in the ass. I mean,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: no wonder he nobody wanted him around chops versus the roast,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like the whole The grapefruit conversation I totally agreed with
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: because I start my day with a grapefruit and I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: kind of choke it down to I literally put grapefruit
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: juice on my grocery list. I'm getting that next y.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It's a great thing to start the morning with, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any this morning, so I feel a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: little off. But you don't like it? Oh, I love it? No,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. I do A brainfruit juice too. Yeah, yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: all of it, all of it. But it doesn't know
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: what a what a pain in the tail. This guy
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: is telling everybody what they need to do. He can't
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: help it, well he needs is he like completely unaware
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of where he is and he's with disbleed because he's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: never he wakes him at five thirty in the morning
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and has gone to work every day. So he doesn't matter.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You can't go through life like that, ordering people around
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and bossing them around and telling them what to drink
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and eat. And that's too much, I said, guy, is
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: he kidding? But what he wanted to go to dry
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: cleaner with the Emily, Oh, I'll go with you, And
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: that is like a total thing of Grandpa does like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I swear grups are like, I'll do that. I just
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: kept thinking to myself, a boy, that's Trixie's son right there,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: who didn't defend his own wife. I just I just
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: there's that aspect of his personality I thought was quite unappealing.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You know, she had every right to throttle him in
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: her living room. It was it was it was too
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: much to take. It really really was. And I don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: know why they did that to him, but and you know, okay,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: so just in a macro sense, it really the reason
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it was such a downer is, I don't look, I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get his job back
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: or he's going back to work. Maybe he is, I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: have no idea. But look at this point, like this
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: show is completely altered because Richard doesn't have a job anymore.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It's not the Gilmore Girls anymore. The dynamic has completely changed,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and which is why for me it was a downer.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: At the end, it says, are we gonna have to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: deal with this where they're gonna never have to deal
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: with not have to deal with Richard as a businessman again.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Where he had all his power and you know, all
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: his verve and his energy and and and and and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and the charismatic nature of that character drives a lot
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: of his power from what he does. And now he
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't do it anymore. So what happened? I mean, the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: bottom drops out of this character and now he's just
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a pain in the ass and everybody. I mean, he's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: taken so many notches down from the prestige scale that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: how do you rehabilitate this guy? Now? I mean, it's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it's just what you're just gonna feel We're gonna feel
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: sorry for them for the for a couple more years.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's untenable situation. Untenable situation. I don't know
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: how they they brought the character down this many notches,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: How are they going to rehabilitate him? I agree? I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: mean no, seriously, I do. I do agree with everything
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Scott saying. I want him, I want him back. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: want him as like the powerful Richard who you know
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: has his little briefcase and you know is all I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: ask is that this little clip right here we saved
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because we are going to come back to this of
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: how you feel and what you desire. So before we
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: move on, Scott, what did you feel when Richard, although
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Michelle was the funniest part of the whole thing, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: literally was dying. What did you think when Richard sort
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of called out Lorala at the end with their conversation
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: with the Linnen guy. Yeah, very inappropriate, I mean just
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: really inappropriate. I mean it's not he's not She's not
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: running an insurance company. This is an intimate job. It's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a job. It's a that depends on people, and you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: we're not all insurance salesman here dealing with you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: billion dollar decisions. It's it's a whole different dynamic. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it was shocking that he didn't adjust his demeanor and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: his attitude knowing that this he's not in the middle of,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, a massive insurance company. He's in a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: little in He's in an end and stars hollow. For
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: God's sake, what are you sitting around condescending and pontificating
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and and being just a kind of a jerk. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't. We wouldn't tell a doctor how to do
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: their job right. Right. It's like, are you kidding? It's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: just it's such a a a clueless Richard, and it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: not a Richard I want to see again. I'm sorry,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see him in this state. That's interesting.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I think that that's important that you're not enjoying this, Richard. No,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: how could you enjoy this? Richard? How do you enjoy this? Now?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about the Richard Dean scene? I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that one bothered me less because I thought, look, if
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: some dudes given your granddaughter a car, he wasn't totally
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: wrong to have it checked out. And I thought he
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: warmed up to Dean. I thought that there was like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: because Dean really held his ground and was so strong
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and tough. When Richard was talking to him, it did
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: seem like, oh okay, like Dean is winning him over.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Dean has no chance. Oh my gosh, was the son
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: of Trixie. I agree with you, Amy. I found it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: so ironic that out of all the people, like all
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the Gilmore's, Dean was actually the one that held his
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: ground with Richard like the girls didn't, not neither of them,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And he was the one that was like, no, I'm
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: going to stand up to you. And Richard actually did
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: come around. Yes, And Scott Lorla didn't stand up to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: him at the end. Now maybe she did that because
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: she was in her place and she had to put
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the stiff upper lip that she ordered it right and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: she has to go running to doses to get it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So I thought the scene with Dean and Richard was
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: amazing because Dean holds his ground, tells the truth, doesn't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: back down, and then Richard does warm up to him.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He asked about his parents and then he says how
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: tall are you? And Dean says, why do you want
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to dance? No? But I appreciate the offer totally inconsequential scene,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Dean doesn't hold it. He doesn't have a chance in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Richard's world. He has been weighed and measured and found
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: one thing. He will not have a chance with Rory
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: no matter what he does. That's why he asked all
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: those questions. He is not good enough for Rory. End
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of statement. It won't happen. I do think he's made
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: improvement with Richard though, from the dinner at the house. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think Richard's thing okay and he and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Richard says, yeah, you can have the car, not Rory. Rory, Nope, sorry,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: none of those people are good enough for Richard. It's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: not not true. What did you think of the first
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: appearance of Gypsy. I thought it was pretty good. I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: she really takes the scene right. I mean she really,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: she's very present, she's very funny. She it was it
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: was and it was that the first time we say yes,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that's the first time it was. It was an auspicious debut.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I thought, brief and but really great stuff, really fun. Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: she's great. It was great. I love her. I thought
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: she came on screen and I think it's why Gypsy
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: stands out and I assumed she'd been on since the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: beginning because she does sort of steal the scene and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you get her personality right away, and she's just moving
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and grooving and I love it. It's a woman mechanic, right,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, yeah, this chick rocks. Right. Yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: we skipped the movie store. Oh let's talk about it. Huh.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That was pretty good. That's a whole another thing happening
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: in this episode. That was a good setup because that's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: when the phone call came about Laurel. I take this
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: guy off my hands for a day. They were in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the movie store. I like, I like that. Uh Rory
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: went to Kirk and said, hey, you know this is
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they're looking at a What was the movie that show Girls?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: The show Girls cover the two little boys? Zippy? You know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Uh So it was actually one of the funnier scenes
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: later on when Taylor comes outside made a curtain. I'm sure, like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: what was that picture? But again, a great way to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: fit Kirkin to an episode. Very funny, laminated card. That's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a relationship you have with the store moralize, Like, hang
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on a second, and this for me, the like I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: used to wander around the video store all the time
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like Riley, do you even remember like video stores? Oh
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I'm watching this. I miss Blockbuster, Blockbuster, Like I miss
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: just going Like I wasn't old enough to go anywhere else,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: so I just go to the movie store and walk
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: up and down every aisle and choose. I come from
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a time before Blockbuster, like take one video like it
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was just the like local old video place. And you,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I think you had an account, So I'm pretty sure
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you could like go in there without your parents and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: get the movie because you don't have to use money.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I just had a thought. You know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Kirk is as insane in his mania, in his in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: his approach to life, as Paris is without the mania.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at those two characters. They're kind
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of they're kind of the same person. They should have
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: had those two get together, Yeah, they should up. There
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: would have been fireworks because they're the same yet their opposite.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine that? Can you imagine that?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: The video scene was hilarious and it totally gave us
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: levity because you know, the scene with Richard and Lorelei
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: was rough. Yeah, Plus guess what we got because of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the video store, just the hero and Rory likes it. Yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he obviously switched all the movies and did it before
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: he even knew that she hated this. He knew, like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: they hadn't talked about that. She's like, ah, this wasn't
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: what I wanted. He just knew, so he's like, a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: handle it. I love Jess. Yeah, well you've made that clean.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Even Dean in this episode, with the awesomeness of what
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we've talked about for the last minutes, He's in two scenes.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: He probably like three minutes of screen time, maybe maybe less,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I love him right, he was so
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: much better suited to her. I mean, I don't I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: feel bad saying it. I do. It gives me guilt
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: because Dean is so sweet. But like Jess, Yes, well,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's like, what what side of Rory comes out
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: when she's with Dean versus Yes? And I like I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like Rory better with Jess because I like the person
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that that Rory becomes with Jess. There's more, there's more
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: mystery there, it's smarter, whereas I think with Dean she
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: becomes a little she reversed back to more like trying
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to please him to and playing a traditional role which
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: she's not suited for. Like it's so like girly for
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: me to like the car, the car, and like, oh, Grandpa,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: thanks for letting me have the car, and it's just
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like it's sweet. But Jess, I think brings out the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: authentic Rory. There's a rebellion. There, there's depth, there's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: rebellious nous, there's wonder, there's there's real love. You know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a recognition of each other
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and one and in those two, yeah, you know, they're
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Guy steals every scene he's in. They're both hurting and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: they're both going to heal each other. We really want
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to and it's gonna look good when they do it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I just love not to be too graphic. I think
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you're I think it's perfect. Like just the way Jess moves,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like the way Milo moves, Like the way he walks,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: so he sort of leans and stands at the window,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and then the way he walks away and the looks
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: back like you he is awesome, like Milo is so
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: because I mean, Jess doesn't have a lot of words,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and even in the scene in the diner, he has
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like one line, but he nails it and You're like,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: oh my god, that kid. H Yeah. Well, uh so
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: now Richard is is now in the diner, He's doing
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: his grapefruit routine. He's being a pain in the tail.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: At leads to a very funny situation where Laurel I asked, uh,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: where where Luke offers to go get a grape fruit
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: next door, being the good guy that he is feeling
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: her pain. Um, and then we moved back in the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: chilt and where, uh does Rory really try to get
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: out of it, trying to get out of doing this, Oh,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: tries to get out of tries to convince the Stars
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Hollow there's no story there. Um. I think that's a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: very funny premise. Again, it demonstrates the outlandish nature of
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: this character and this sort of the female version of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Kirk with mania, who is willing to do anything and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: step over anybody, step on anybody to get what she wants. Yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I love Paris with the Stars how with the Stars
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Hollow group, just like I did at the Bracebridge dinner
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with Paris there. I love bringing her into the town,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: getting her out of children into the town with these
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: other misfits. It's just like, oh my god. Yeah, I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: think the real joint that character is knowing how inappropriate
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: she is, and she's going to do something really stupid
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be funny and just act nuts. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: just just be completely completely crazy. So now we have
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Richard at the end. So now we find ourselves in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the n um and you know, again he's being inappropriate
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: with Loreli. We've covered this a little bit. She's got
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to just grit her teeth and take it because she's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: in her you know, it made me nervous right from
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the minute he walked in, like, oh no, oh, no,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: he's shaking the coffee table leg again. It's it's uncomfortable
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to see Richard in this role. Um. It was uncomfortable
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: for me. I like that guy who is too busy
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to really do much and he's got things going on,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and he's he's got bigger fish to fry, and he's detached.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Richard's detached, you know, he's he's really not president at dinners,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: he's deflecting a lot of the Laurela hostility towards him,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: towards his wife. They're just sort of putting up with it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: That's the dynamic that I want. I want that I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: missed that dysfunction. I agree with you. I loved Richard
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: at the Bracebridge dinner where everyone's all eyes on him
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: as he tells the story. It's like, you know, even
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: back when Richard had the heart attack, he still was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: in total command and control. I just that scene where
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: he tries to tell Emily about the will and she's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: just like, no, he this is sort of yeah, this
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is sad Richard. It's just a lack of love. I mean,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: there's no love being exchanged, there's no concern for one another.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: It's just him being a dictator and him being overbearing.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And oh man, I just boy, that was uncomfortable watching.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: But they do reveal in that fight in the living
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: room why he's doing it and overstepping even though it's wrong,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: because he's so sad and he knows that Emily called
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Laurela and said, like, take him off my hands. So
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: then you're like to how and does an audience? So,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: why do we have to deal with this? Why are
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: we being why is this being foisted upon us? We
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: love our Richard detached and busy and powerful and quippy
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and above it all right, that's the power of the character.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And now he's he's he's the gravity has his entropy
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: has brought him back to Earth. And now it's just
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: because it's so real. It's like, I will take the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: good with the bad because these characters are so full
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and real. I don't watch that show to get real.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: That's not real. Nothing about that show is real. I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think any of those characters are real?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I think the magic of it is that wait a minute,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: here's the top and crazy. I do think there. Do
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you think it's even possible? And I was just having
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: this conversation with my wife, Okay, I said, do you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: think it's even possible that a person like Laurel I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Gilmore could exist and has ever existed in a place
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like Stars Hollow? Do you think a place like stars
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Hollow has ever existed to that degree? Do you think
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a person from a Gilmore like family that's one of
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the top families in an area in a pretty big
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: metropolitan area, which Hartford is, right the top of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: food chain, the wealthiest people, the most powerful people. Do
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you think that the sixteen year old daughter or the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: sixteen year old son had a baby and moved to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a Star's Hollow and stayed there. Do you think that's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: even possible. Do you think it's possible? Yes, I don't.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it can exist in reality.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a question. But I think it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: an exaggerated version of what it could be. A small town,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: quirky small town, and I think they do exist. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: think it's exaggerate. I'll give you that. I don't think
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: there's the Kirk. I don't think there's the Miss Patty
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: exactly how she is, or Babet or even Gypsy. But
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, I do. I do think that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: there's some element of like, yeah, so do you think
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it's Do you think the characters the stars Hollow, the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: premise of the show and the actual town of stars Hollow,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: is this sort of heightened reality? It's an unreality in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: order that these people can behave in such a way
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and get away with it, the way that Laurel at
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: times just sort of lords over the people there and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: talks over their head and talks down to them. You
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, I don't want to
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: get negative. It's like Ken does is this supposed to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: be a real place? Are we as an audience supposed
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to buy this, So I think it's an exaggerated version
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: of reality. So I come from a small town, but
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it's not as small as this. But like we have
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the local doses market where everybody knows the butcher by name,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and the checkout person knows your name and they've got
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: your Christmas card at the check out, and like it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little bigger than that town where
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I come from. So but it is, everything is relatable.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I dare I bring up the Debutante ball,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but it was an exaggerated version of exactly in my town.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But how does a Laurelai Gilmore, even a pregnant Laurelai Gilmore,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: go to that place and stay there? How? How is
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that possible? How does that happen? And that's the question
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you have to answer, because I don't know if you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: want to answer the question. Because of the level of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: enmity between her and her parents, which is apparent in
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: every single episode, the division, the life that wasn't lived,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the love that never was, the love that the familiar
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: love that was never shared. It's the loss, the loss,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the loss. Every single episode I felt it. And that's
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: why Danielle I felt It was a downer because I
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I felt it so prominently in this episode, and I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be reminded of it anymore. I just
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I want to me the character of loyal, like Gilmore
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and Rory represent getting away from that kind of thing
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and making light of everything because they don't want to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: deal with it. Now they're thrust back into this forced
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: dinners and all this kind of stuff with these people
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: that they can't relate to and don't even want to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: spend time with, and you're and and now we're really
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: mired in this for an entire episode, which I thought, Wow,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. This is not why
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I watched the show, and that's not why I enjoy
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the characters. I want to get away from that. So
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: again it goes back to the question could this character could?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Has this ever happened in life? Has somebody from this
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: high a place fallen this far and ended up in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: this place? Not that it's a terrible place, it's just
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a much different world. How does she exist? How does
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: she exist in that world? For sixteen years? So I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: say yes, you say no, what did Danielle and Riley say?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I say, Prince Harry and making Marcos and I think
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Yes, I think she. I think Lorelie found
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: comfort in her belonging in Stars Hollow that she had
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: been looking for at home, and she just loved it
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: so much that she stayed. Well. I mean that means
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that that means that Richard and Emily were the two
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: worst people in the universe to be that cruel and
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that evil to a sixteen year old who found herself
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in a real predicament and needed support. I mean they're tough. Well,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: that Megan and Harry from sucking im palace to want
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: to see too vic Palisades. Yeah, is it time time
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: for pop culture? For what time of the day? Pop culture?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Pretty much is. I would like to I cannot wait
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to give my favorite line though, so ultimately I'm going
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to give this episode a thumbs down. Yes, turned on me. No,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I set you up. But I didn't turn
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: not even a sideways no, because it left me with
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: no hope and I don't like feeling empty after spending
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: forty minutes with people that I've come to love. I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: with you, I don't. I think it's a thumbs down
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: for me, Even though as far as the acting, the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: directing the writing that the editing was perfection. I give
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a thumbs up because I'm not afraid to feel sad
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: for a minute, because we'll grow. I'm not. I don't.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like how I felt at the end, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to feel that. I felt more hope
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: with ad Astra because it's so bad. I watched like
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: eight minutes of that movie was like, that was a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: great movie. I love that movie. Riley, take it over
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: ya I Rilly, And this is your pop culture. Laura
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Lee and Richard argue after they're in the living room,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and Laura Li says, nothing that can come out of
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: your mouth today in any universe visited by Kirk or
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Spoch can be constructed as construted, as constructive. Obviously, the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: writers are fans of Star Trek, since we've had so
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: many Star Trek references on this podcast and the show.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: They're in Gilmore Girls. The sound made by the motorcycle
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: in Kirk rides the shuttle departing the Starfleet Academy is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the same sound used in The Jetsons two for the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: cars they fly. Once again, pop culture creates a timeless
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: culture reference and new viewers will know Star Trek from
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: The Star Trek starring Chris Pine. I love that. I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: know it just goes all the way through. I love that,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Like I think of William Shatner, but like young people
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: might be like, oh, I know Captain Kirk from Chris Pine.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And when Chris Pine was cast as Captain Kirk, he
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: was sent He sent William Shatner a letter and received
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a reply containing Shatterer's approval, which is really cool. And um,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: we actually heard Amy's toilet flush last week. But did
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you know the sound of the automatic doors opening on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the USS Enterprise is a Russian trains toilet flushing. What
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I love it? What all these uses for toilet flushes?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: A Russian train a toilet flushing is the sound of
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the original Star Trek. It somebody obviously was a huge
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: fan the writers. Do you know which writer it was
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that loves Star Trek because they work it in and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: like so many episodes they're a Trekker like me. So
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: we have in the movie store every there's so many
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: movie references in this short amount of time. So lor
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: lyone roy are trying to figure out what they're gonna watch.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Lorda Lie says the three paces of Costner, Bowl Durham,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Dances with Wolves and the Postman, Tom Petty playing Tom Petty,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that great big speech about once upon a time and
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: there's a thing called mail. How do they say field
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of dreams? Those are the three faces? So Lorea lies
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: referencing the actor Kevin Costner. Bodyguard? How do they not
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: see Bodyguard? It's fine? Wasn't considered a great film? Wasn't
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't considered a great film. Whitney Houston's performance was
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: end universally. I do love it though. I do love
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the movie. Oh No, very watchable film for sure, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it was kind of campy. They don't mention the water world.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: It was the Sister I really, Oh yeah, I know
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: that was it was. It was, but it was a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: watch very watchable film. Hold up, so the three movies
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: they do reference. Bull Durham is American romantic comedy sports film.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: In the meeting at the Pictures Mound, Robert wooll ad
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: libbed his line about getting candlesticks at it as a
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: wedding present. He said it was based on a real
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: conversation he had with his wife. Dances with Wolves is
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: American epic western film starring, directed and produced by Kevin
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Costner in his first directorial debut. Because of the film's
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: enormous success and sympathetic treatment of the Native Americans, and
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Sue Nation adopted Kevin Costner as an honorary member and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: again a timeless reference because Costner is now known as
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: John Dunton in the epic series Yellowstone. And finally, The
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Postman is seven American post apocaly apocalyptic action film. Kevin
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Costner's chillen all appear in this film. Never Saw. Continuing
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: on with the movies, Rory says, oh, we could do
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: a Ruth Gordon film festival. Harold, Harold and Mod Rosemary's Baby.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: In the really great episode of Taxi, I did not
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: know whose Cordon was in Taxi, but continue. We have
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: mentioned this one episode, We have mentioned Ruth Gordon in
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: season one, episode one, and Casey missed it. Scott and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Henry reviewed Rosemary's Baby on the I Am All minnisode
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and Coming Soon teaser The sixth sets, So next. Harold
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Mod is nineteen seventy one American coming of age dark
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: comedy film. In the all shots of Ruth Gordon driving
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the hers, it is being towed because she never learned
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: how to drive. A Car. Taxi is an American American
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: sitcom that originally aired on ABC from to nine eight two.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: After the third season, the director, the and most of
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: the Taxi cast appeared on Cheers in two and vice versa.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: The cast of Taxi was epic, consisting of Don Danny
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: de Vito, Tony Danza, Mary Lou Henner, Jed Hirst, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman. And Taxi is also a two thousand four
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: American comedy drama film starring Queen Latifa and Jimmy Fallon,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: but not related to the show. Not related. They also
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: mentioned cool as Ice Hudson Hawk in Electric Googloo when
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: they were in there, I mean they rattled off like
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a thousand movie names a thousand. Next verse, Richard suggests
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Rory should look at other options for schools. Richards says,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: but that's ridiculous. Who's going to help her get into Harvard?
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Laura Lay says Reese Witherspoon. This is a reference to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Legally Blonde in two thousand one American comedy films starring
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon. As a greed in her contract, Reese kept
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: all of her her costumes after filming and to prepare
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: for her role in Elwood's Rees, spent two weeks studying
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the behavior of sorority girls. Again relevant today because according
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to Variety, legally Blonde three is set to release in theaters.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: On Emily is in a good mood at dinner and
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: everyone says they're five fine. Laura I says, oh, look
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: at that, all three of us fine, just like the Judds.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: The Jeds were an American country music do composing Thank
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you Naomi Jed and her daughter Winona Judd. Um. While
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: we know Wyona Wynona, Naomi has said to have another
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: famous daughter, Ashley Judd, is an actress known for projects
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: like Double Jeopardy, Divergent. In Twin Peaks one, the Judds
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: were inducted into the Country Hall of Fame, and it
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: is in fact not all fine in the Judds world
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: because it is no secret that Naomi and Winona have
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: had a rocky relationship over the years. I think that
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: was sort of the cheeky um. Finally we have Emily
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: and Laurea Lae are left at the table while Richard
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: and Rory walk off Friday night dinner. Laura, license you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: were twitching, I saw you, says this to Emily Laura
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: license Mom. When Dad was talking about the vase, you
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: were pulling a toll on Tabitha. This is reference to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the show Bewitched. Bewitches American fantasy sitcom television series that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: originally aired for eight seasons on ABC from nineteen six
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy two, and be Witch Samantha constantly had
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to remind her daughter Tabitha you mustn't twitch. During season two,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: five Babies played Tabitha Stevens, and season three the young
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: twins had been replaced by fraternal twins Aaron Murphy and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Diane Murphy. By season five, the role was solely played
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: by Aaron Murphy and in two thousand five b which
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: was made into a film starring Nicole Kidman and Will Ferrell.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I do have one more reference that was missed. That was,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm in a Lifetime movie. Nancy McKeon is
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: playing me. I am Joe, which is a reference to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Joe from the Facts of Life, and that Nancy McKeon
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: did multiple Lifetime movies. And that's your top culture all right, lines,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: give it? Who wants to go first? Go ahead? Danielle
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: favorite line. I have to, but um, I will do
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the one from or a lie When she was arguing
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: with Richard about getting Rory into Yale and Richard was like, yea,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: it would be a breeze to get her into and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Lauraa goes, we don't like breezes. They messed up our hair,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: right mine is? I feel like it's always gonna be Michelle.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: But I want to you know, I answer phones like
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: this as soon as I can. I will send someone up. Yes,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I will understand. Understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, Okay, understand. Goodbye.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Michelle was my favorite by far, when he said someone
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: is in trouble, when Richard was like, given the stink,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I and I'll quickly say my fashion moments lorea Lize
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: purple tuxedo blouse that did not have a jacket and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Jesse's camo shirt. I had the purple ruffle blouse too.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Are we doing favorite lines? What's going on? We just
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: giving our quick fashion because we're bunny out of time
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: quick fashion. My favorite line was Luke when he asked Rory, goes, Rory,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: how much do you like? This person? Was good? So
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: we have a little surprise next special episode we do yea,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: so later this week. Guys, there's gonna be a bonus episode,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: a very special guest, don't we who is coming back
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to us? And I believe she was one of the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: initial guests, wasn't she with Rose Gypsy later is coming back?
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: We love her so much. And then you'll know when
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: it's here. Oh yeah, we're not telling you. It's a
• 55:00
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• 55:04
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• 55:08
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• 55:13
  Speaker 1: of Jupiter and he'll be here any minute. All are
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you one of dance? No, but I appreciate the offer.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Just he's never going to accept. He won't accept Jess either.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: It's just it won't happen. All right, next episode A
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: tisket a tasket and we're going to get into that
• 55:35
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• 55:40
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• 55:44
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• 55:49
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• 55:56
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• 55:58
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• 56:03
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• 56:06
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