Latest / The Magic Guys / The Assembly Convention Highlights! #212
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- 0:00What's up fellow Magic Guys? We are here at the Assembly Convention.
- 0:05This is a convention we've been talking about on the pod for a while,
- 0:08but it's here in Brisbane, Australia.
- 0:10And there's a lot of fellow magicians around the place that listen to the podcast.
- 0:13So I'm going to show you a couple of them now and let's have a look around.
- 0:18Scotty P here, Magic Guys viewers, putting a face to the name this time because
- 0:22I'm here at the Magic Convention, the Assembly, and I'm learning a lot,
- 0:27taking a lot of notes, spending a little bit too much money,
- 0:30but that's how it goes here. On to the next.
- 0:32Good day, this is Matt. We're here at the Assembly 2025 Magic Invention in Brisbane.
- 0:37Just here to be inspired by local and international talent.
- 0:42It's a great opportunity to see some new ideas, get the creative juices flowing
- 0:46and be really intentional about investing in ourselves as magic as a hobby and a profession.
- 0:51I've got a joke for you. Do you hear about the magic tractor?
- 0:54He went down the road and turned into a field.
- 1:01Hello, my name is Chi Han. I'm here to show you a quick card trick here with the four aces, I think.
- 1:07No, that's not an ace. There we go. I need the four aces for this.
- 1:10And one last one right over here. The four aces. What's going to happen is they're going to disappear.
- 1:16Maybe next time. Hey, hey, this is Brendan Dooley, comedy magician from New
- 1:21Zealand. I am here at the assembly convention in gorgeous Brisbane and I'm about
- 1:26to go and open the gala show for magicians.
- 1:29Now people often, well Josh and I were just talking about what it's actually
- 1:32like to perform for magicians and I was just thinking about it.
- 1:35And it is absolutely the motherfucking freaking worst thing on the absolute planet.
- 1:45I question my life choices. I mean, take two, take two. I am so excited.
- 1:51This is probably the most exciting opportunity of my career.
- 1:54It's so great to perform in front of my peers. They're such a supportive audience.
- 1:59I'm not lying at all.
- 2:02They're guys. They do magic. They are the magic guys.
- 2:11Ah ladies and gentlemen welcome to episode 212
- 2:15of the magic guys i hope you enjoyed our
- 2:18little intro which is a big uh foreshadowing of
- 2:21this episode but to my left i have my twin from
- 2:24melbourne nick k hello brother man it's
- 2:27nick k from melbourne but this week
- 2:31we were brothers in the same city it was
- 2:33actually it was funny because we were going
- 2:36to talk about it but we did a show together and you know
- 2:39we both were the main feature act
- 2:42in different sessions but it almost looked like
- 2:45it was the same person in both because you know we had
- 2:47nice shiny heads and great magic extremely handsome
- 2:51and extremely talented it's yeah
- 2:54and also a lot we should do like wasn't
- 2:57there a movie wasn't there a movie with von jean cole van damme double
- 3:00exposure or something i'm sure there was yeah all this arnold schwarzenegger
- 3:04you know total recall i think was at that one when he's like yeah he actually
- 3:08has a clone but you know what we're talking about my friends is the assembly
- 3:14convention wait let me do that like it should be done.
- 3:20And that happened in brisbane which we talked about
- 3:23in the weeks leading up to it and we
- 3:26had a whole series of events happen which
- 3:29we're excited to talk about starting from friday through to
- 3:32saturday to sunday and nick was in town so it
- 3:35was just a whole weekend of shenanigans firstly
- 3:38nick i don't think you slept much how are you feeling
- 3:41now at the end of it before we start the
- 3:44stories finally rested and today is definitely going to be a rehab day of just
- 3:49like doing laundry and pulling my life back together in preparation to do it
- 3:52all again on the weekend i suppose with performances but oh yeah it is so great
- 3:57just to like i so i flew down on the friday so it's a weekend event in a sense.
- 4:02So on the Friday, I caught up with a bunch of magicians. We had really good sessions at the bar.
- 4:06We played a really fun game where, I don't know, I should give it a name or
- 4:10something, or maybe even like try to implement it in the show.
- 4:12But the idea was that we had like 10 of us at the table.
- 4:15And I said, all right, new challenge. We're going to do controls to the top of the deck.
- 4:21One at a time in a circle and you
- 4:24have to do as many as you can right taking a
- 4:27turn at a time you cannot repeat one that anyone
- 4:30else has done and and if you do you're
- 4:33out of the game and it's last man standing let's play bro we
- 4:37were playing for 45 minutes and nobody was out like
- 4:40there was so much hell yeah there was so much talent at the
- 4:43table and we just went like all right enough of this let's
- 4:46let's do forces instead oh my god
- 4:49like it was so and because what happens is you go in this
- 4:51circle and then all of a sudden someone does something you go whoa whoa stop
- 4:54the game the hell was that show us and then they give you a tutorial and so
- 4:59it's this really cool way of sort of exchanging ideas but making it quite fun
- 5:02right that's such a great game you start reaching into these like corners of
- 5:07your mind that you like i totally forgot that i knew how to do a control like that.
- 5:11Super fun. So that's what my Friday was like.
- 5:13That's cool, man. I didn't even. Wow. I had to.
- 5:18Well, yeah. So everyone was flying in on the Friday. For me,
- 5:21I had a gig, you know, which is wonderful to say on a podcast for magicians. I had a gig. Yeah.
- 5:27It was about two hours away. So I had a late night, but just from performing.
- 5:31And Nick, are you familiar with the band Thirsty Merc? Absolutely.
- 5:35So they were headlining this gig that I did.
- 5:38So I was doing all the roving and then they came on stage and played for this
- 5:42corporate event, private company.
- 5:45And I wonder if our viewers know who Thirsty Merc are as well,
- 5:49like in the US and stuff. Because they had some mainstream songs. Yeah, they sure did.
- 5:54Yeah. Anyway, that's all. So that was my Friday. And then we get to Saturday.
- 6:01So Saturday was an absolute banger because that was the day that the Theatre
- 6:05of Magic was holding their two shows, one an early session and the evening session.
- 6:11The sessions were, the acts that we had rather, were our two international guests
- 6:17who were part of the assembly.
- 6:18We had Christian Grace all the way from the UK.
- 6:21If you don't know who Christian Grace is, I'm surprised
- 6:24because he is one of the greatest card guys i've
- 6:27ever seen he's affectionately known as the
- 6:30uh evil genius of card magic it was actually and
- 6:33rightly so he's not like you know
- 6:36i i've seen his stuff i've seen it
- 6:39performed and i thought to myself like that's that different level like
- 6:42i'm not at that level then that sort of pond to the smith coin
- 6:44stuff you're like i'm gonna look at that that's the way i feel
- 6:47about christian grace's stuff but it's actually genius very
- 6:51clean stuff it doesn't look like he's doing any moves or
- 6:53anything when he performs and we can both contest to that after seeing
- 6:56it live and more importantly seeing his lecture which we'll talk about
- 6:59a little little bit later on so really cool to watch
- 7:02him do his thing that was beautiful we also had martin braises amazing magician
- 7:08from argentina who performed really beautiful spanish style stuff you know what
- 7:13i mean i say spanish style because it's that european beautiful style of magic
- 7:17and you know lots of sort of singing along i love it yeah.
- 7:22And his stuff was beautiful and his lecture was even better.
- 7:26So it was really, really awesome to see that.
- 7:28So these two guys were performing their sets at the beginning.
- 7:32And then afterwards, Josh headlined the show. I got to say this before we go any further.
- 7:36Josh, it is the best. It is the best I've ever seen you perform.
- 7:40That was so killer what you did in that set.
- 7:44He was absolute fire, you guys. And it was such a pleasure to watch.
- 7:49Like I was just, you were like a laugh every 10 seconds. You had a laugh,
- 7:53an interaction or something, and your cube routine slays.
- 7:57Oh, my God. Can we talk about that?
- 7:59Thanks, man. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's funny because I knew we had
- 8:05two acts before and Christian went longer than we had planned for.
- 8:12So I actually did a tighter set than I normally might, but it worked out great.
- 8:18Taken a few things out it like let the individual effects I did in in 35 minutes
- 8:24I do only do like three sets I'm like a coin stuff some cube stuff card stuff
- 8:28but that audience was like,
- 8:31they just seen like two international acts
- 8:34by the time I get there they're just like their minds are blown I'm
- 8:36like all right let me just you know add to that it was
- 8:40a fun night man yeah it was it was red hot
- 8:43but yeah so the the cube act right you had
- 8:46a bit that you wanted to share from that right yeah so
- 8:49we have we have two clips i thought i would grab one from myself
- 8:52from my show and then one from nick in his show and i'll
- 8:55get mine ready so mine goes for it's a two minute clip essentially it's just
- 9:00me solving a cube right i'm just doing an instant solve and back in the day
- 9:05i would do that in the intro of my cube set i would come out and you know to
- 9:10show like skill I would say, look.
- 9:13There's whatever, 43 quintillion different ways you can mix a cube,
- 9:18but we all want to see the one that looks like this and I just solve it.
- 9:21And it would get a little, and so over the evolution of doing probably over
- 9:26a hundred shows at Theater of Magic,
- 9:28like my challenge has
- 9:31always been to get more out of that first
- 9:34time they see it solved and to see if I can make the audience care
- 9:37about wanting to see it solved like almost like a movie add this arc of like
- 9:41tension and conflict before the release to make the reaction bigger if they're
- 9:47going down here not thinking i'll be able to do it anyway i won't say any more
- 9:50this is me riffing with the audience just to solve a bloody cube.
- 9:55Here we go are you ready now wait how will you let me know that you're going
- 10:00to start obviously we're trying to do this as quickly as i can but how will
- 10:04you let me know you're going to start accounting.
- 10:06You'll go, okay, you'll just count.
- 10:08That makes sense. That makes sense.
- 10:13Hell yeah. Are you ready?
- 10:16Wait, hang on, hang on.
- 10:21Okay, so you're going to say go and then, okay, one more thing.
- 10:27Are you familiar with counting in Mississippis?
- 10:29Okay, never mind. Never mind, never mind, never mind.
- 10:3350 seconds, all right. Go.
- 10:37Wait, wait, wait, sorry, I can't hear because they won't shut up. No.
- 10:46Sleep.
- 10:49The show's normally over in two minutes, but I love your enthusiasm.
- 10:53You guys are great. Get out. I'm kidding. You're kidding.
- 10:57All right, are we ready? Hassan, are you ready? Yes. I'm ready. Go. Go. Go.
- 11:04I can't. Hey, I'm just...
- 11:13Martin. Martin. Martin, okay, watch, ready?
- 11:19Just say go, don't even count, okay? Just say go and say it.
- 11:24Okay, perfect, we got the green. But we also got the orange and the blue and
- 11:28the red and the yellow and the white. Every color it is for you!
- 11:36Jesus, okay, that was awesome, that was awesome.
- 11:41Ta-da! See what I mean? like a laugh every 10 seconds fooling around and and
- 11:46that's the thing right like so many people,
- 11:48rush to do the magic you know and there's nothing more painful than when you watch a performer,
- 11:53who's saying their script only so they can just get it out as quickly as possible
- 11:58to do the bit they want to do which is the magic you know whereas you're just
- 12:02connecting with them so perfectly and they're bouncing up you and they're in
- 12:05your corner and they're going like this is funny you're having a hard time we
- 12:09see the humor in it it's such a good set my guy and and thank Thanks, man.
- 12:13And the real secret for a magician is to make the audience think that that's
- 12:20an off-the-cuff moment that's off-script and they want to see how you handle it.
- 12:25But really, this happens in every single show.
- 12:29Like I've learned how to make the spectator initiate this off-the-cuff seeming moment.
- 12:35And when you can make the audience think this is impromptu, that's the real trick. Yeah.
- 12:42I think it was Tommy Cooper that said that the most impromptu moments are actually
- 12:46rehearsed or the best impromptu moments are rehearsed.
- 12:48It was somebody comedy-based who'd said that, but there's a lot of truth in that.
- 12:53There are some things that obviously...
- 12:57The beauty of what you're saying is that like, it's really nice when you feel
- 13:00like the only time I'm ever going to see this is because I'm here.
- 13:03Like this will never be repeated again. When you have those impromptu notes,
- 13:06for example, when you do your, how would you like me to find the cards?
- 13:10You did this bit and you were like, I want it to be under my seat.
- 13:13And you're like, well, fine, bring your seat up here. And you did.
- 13:15And it was, and it was great because it's the type of thing where like,
- 13:18if you go to the next show, you know, it's going to be different.
- 13:21And I love seeing shows that did that.
- 13:24There was a comedy duo called max and evan that
- 13:27did that in a show called the con men i think it was called and they
- 13:30improv this whole bit in their show and then
- 13:32like did a bit of a confab at the end of it like you know
- 13:35nice they tied it all together in this storyline it
- 13:38was a comedic show not a magic show at all but i've
- 13:41been in love with that aspect ever since because it
- 13:44made me want to watch every single show or if there was an ability to watch
- 13:48like the improv moment across the 20 shows like in a compilation i would i would
- 13:55die to see what that is and how they handled it you know and that's the strength
- 13:59that routine has and then there's other situations like mine was.
- 14:05Yeah that's right so i did the first show which had a few more kids in it you
- 14:11know it's earlier in the day it's 4 30 p.m by the time i go on stage it's like
- 14:16five o'clock and no one's drunk yet essentially.
- 14:19Now, in the past, we used to have a nine o'clock show at the Theatre of Magic,
- 14:24but we stopped it because there was just a few too many times where people were drinking,
- 14:29enough that they're a bit too chirpy in the show when you need them to be quiet
- 14:34in certain moments for certain magic. Magic's very delicate.
- 14:37So we actually moved the show times to earlier so that that wouldn't happen as much.
- 14:43So it's 4.30 and then we have a 7.30 show, which is when Nick was headlining.
- 14:49Unfortunately, and this is the time that it happens, sometimes a work group
- 14:54will come to the show and it's the boss who's bought tickets for their staff
- 15:00and their staff have no prior investment into the show.
- 15:04They just know they're going out to have drinks with their colleagues and that's
- 15:08where problems come up. And that's what happened on Saturday.
- 15:12To foreshadow this video you're going to see, these people came in with two
- 15:16cocktails each in hand, and you know they've been drinking beforehand.
- 15:20So I'm like, I try to warn Martin and Christian, like, hey, just so you know,
- 15:24like, this is a little different to the first show that we killed.
- 15:28Like, these guys may give you problems.
- 15:30And so this clip is...
- 15:33Everyone's done magic we've had halftime we've had to kick some
- 15:36of them out as well and the four that are left
- 15:39have just been chirping throughout the show and and
- 15:43yeah like annoying everyone can i can i can i add to that yeah by saying like
- 15:49in the first set it was so full-on that like our good friends brendan dooley
- 15:53sitting in the back and and a bunch of other magicians who were kind enough
- 15:57to come to the show were quite literally saying to this group like they were
- 16:00shushing them They were like,
- 16:01shh, like in the middle of the set, like just shh, trying to get them to hush.
- 16:06They were that out of control. And they weren't like, they weren't necessarily
- 16:09like disrespecting the act. They were just talking amongst each other.
- 16:12Yeah, that's right. They kept talking and just getting.
- 16:18It was like this energy was like, we got to sit here for 45 minutes when we
- 16:22could be sitting at a bar. It was just that energy, you know?
- 16:26Absolutely. They didn't know they're coming to the show and they maybe shouldn't
- 16:29have if they're going to drink that much and chat away.
- 16:32So at this point in the show, everyone's had enough of them.
- 16:35And Nick's gone, I need four people to help. And it just so happens that the
- 16:40four hecklers that are left are the ones that want to get involved. And then here we go.
- 16:46Yeah. If you want to play, do this. Okay. You two can play. That's great. And anyone on this side?
- 16:51Just the four. The ones in the middle. Okay. the ones that we affectionately
- 16:55call the ones in the middle okay,
- 16:58madam you got a name everyone say hi jordan what do you do jordan uh i wait
- 17:04for my mother what does mom do sleep wait sleep scientist amazing what does
- 17:09it mean lucky that's so sweet,
- 17:12no that's hilarious because my comedy brain was just like now he's awake.
- 17:19Well he was asleep jordan you're going to choose a card say stop,
- 17:25Okay, we'll try that again. Summer in the middle, Jordan. Okay, here we go. Say stop.
- 17:30Good job, kiddo. Jack, you're playing? Yeah. Okay, you say stop,
- 17:34Jack. Stop. What do you do, Jack? Polish heads.
- 17:39It means he's a mechanic.
- 17:45Sorry, we don't allow soliciting in our building, Jack. We're going to have
- 17:48to ask you to leave. I'm very... Don't worry about it.
- 17:52What is your name, Your Majesty? Ondra. This is Andra, everyone. She meant that. Andra!
- 18:02Hello, Andra! What is this? She really meant it. What's your hustle, Andra?
- 18:07I'm a sleep scientist. You guys are? Oh! Really? Okay, so apparently studying
- 18:12sleep makes you wild. Okay.
- 18:16Go with that. Okay, Andra, tell me about this dream I had.
- 18:22It's coming from the moon.
- 18:26She's like, not unless there's an invoice attached. You shut up, magic man.
- 18:31Andra, say stop. Right there. You want to go on more? You want to stay?
- 18:35I feel like I rushed. Yeah, as long as you're... As long as you're... Nope. I'm good.
- 18:40What's your name, Mr. Buzzity Butter Language? What is this? What's your name?
- 18:44Andrew. Andrew feels a little... Like an attack. Make him feel welcome.
- 18:48Say hi, Andrew. It's okay.
- 18:51Loosen up. Loosen up, Andrew. No one's going to get... Just okay. Just loosen up, bud.
- 18:55AA meeting. Yeah. Yeah. I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say you should go more often.
- 19:09Thank you. Good night. I can't get better than that.
- 19:18That's what happens when you come to a Nick K show. Yeah.
- 19:24And knockout.
- 19:27Now, the whole thing about that is after that routine, they were putty. They were one of us.
- 19:34It dissolved all the unpleasantness that the audience had because at that point,
- 19:38I was basically representing the audience, pulling them apart,
- 19:41and then we all became one, and we all got along after that.
- 19:45And even when the show had ended, we got outside,
- 19:49we thank everyone for coming, and and every single one of them like
- 19:51literally hugged me in fact jack who's the biggest
- 19:55douche bag of all of them yeah jack talking to you grabbed my
- 19:58butt cheeks when he hugged me like which yeah not
- 20:02polite but he did but that would just like that will they absolutely loved me
- 20:05and like in and the boss lady like full gave me a hug and kiss and yeah like
- 20:10it was it was really interesting to be able to turn that around but what was
- 20:14really lovely was having my peers and And other people come to me and say,
- 20:20you saved the night. Like, you saved the show.
- 20:24Yeah, because what's most impressive is it shows how seasoned you are and everyone
- 20:30else in the night was trying to do their show and ignore them talking, you know,
- 20:37or make little gestures. Like, hang on, wait, wait, wait.
- 20:41But you just, like, went straight for them and showed, hey, wait,
- 20:46like I have control here.
- 20:48And then by the end, like after that routine, they did just like let you do your thing.
- 20:53And, and so essentially in that routine, like it's so funny,
- 20:56but you really told them three times, like you guys are talking too much and stop.
- 21:01Cause you said, ah, the group that we call the group of four.
- 21:05And then you, you know, gave them the line of, ah, this is what happens when a work group gets wild.
- 21:10And then you said, ah, the AA meeting, you guys should go more so like three
- 21:13times you put them in their place while just having fun and not directly saying
- 21:17it yeah it's very very cool.
- 21:20Yeah, it's really, you know, I wish there was more of a science to it.
- 21:26I'm very organic in situations like this. But I think the only takeaway for
- 21:29me is that sometimes there's certain things that you can't hide.
- 21:32And I'm reminded of a thing that Gregory Wilson said, if you can't hide it, highlight it.
- 21:37Now, he was talking about method
- 21:38when he said that. If you can't hide a method, highlight the method.
- 21:42You know and he does he's like a really ugly pass uh to like
- 21:44get away with it was like it was something of that nature but like we couldn't
- 21:48hide the fact that this group was out of control that they'd over drank and
- 21:53that they were behaving improperly so i had to highlight it and you know when
- 21:58i had old mate go and mind you there was a few more people down that line that were,
- 22:03equally bad but they were the particular work group we're talking about and
- 22:07scotty painter said if there's an elephant in the room nick k is writing it.
- 22:14So good stuff yeah and so it was just good to end especially
- 22:17that moment when it's like this was like an aa meeting i was like yeah you should go
- 22:19more often like how perfect by the way that he
- 22:22said that like yeah obviously amazing that you
- 22:25clocked that and used it but how funny that he said that
- 22:28for this moment it was too good and there's
- 22:31like there's so many other moments where nick heckled
- 22:35back at these guys in the show but this is just like the one where he
- 22:37took on all for at once and it's
- 22:40just too good and this is something that will happen when you're performing
- 22:43even if it's roving i mean roving even more people give
- 22:47you less authority sometimes if they're drinking and stuff and so
- 22:50sometimes there's this moment where as magicians we feel like if one person
- 22:57if we're if we tell off one person it's gonna ruin our career like words gonna
- 23:02get around that we're mean to people and like you know i can't tell that person to stop talking but.
- 23:09The whole the rest of the audience appreciates it
- 23:12and so sometimes it's required even though it feels
- 23:14like because the last thing i want to do is create conflict in a
- 23:18show it's meant to just be fun but it is required and i would say in a year
- 23:24and a half of doing theater magic it's probably only happened three times that
- 23:28we've had to directly in the show say hey we will have to ask you to leave if you don't stop talking.
- 23:35It's so rare, but it happened on the convention weekend, of course.
- 23:41And yeah, Nick took it like a chimp.
- 23:44Otherwise we got two standing ovations in our shows thanks to the magicians
- 23:49and the amazing nigel and what a night so that was saturday and you know what
- 23:54just on a little just a personal note what was really cool was meeting martin
- 24:00and meeting christian and as i'm meeting them,
- 24:04they're saying to me oh i've seen your videos i love your stuff great to meet
- 24:08you and we already had this instant rapport because obviously I already adore
- 24:12them, but they've seen my stuff.
- 24:14And Christian was like, Christian's such an instant bro.
- 24:17He's like, bro, I love your stuff. Oh, this is going to be great.
- 24:20And that was, I'm not saying to post more videos, guys, but I'm just saying
- 24:26it helps breaking the ice sometimes. And it did. And it was great for that reason.
- 24:32Anyway, I just wanted to say that. That was great. And you did a fantastic performance.
- 24:37When you're headlining a show, there is this huge responsibility.
- 24:40And we'll wrap up by saying this, if I may. It's just that I genuinely turned to my peers.
- 24:45I turned to people like the Dooley and Byron and people I was hanging out with.
- 24:48And I actually said to them quite openly, I said, this is the first time in
- 24:52forever that I've actually felt nervous for a performance.
- 24:55And I had to reflect as to why that was. And it was like, well,
- 24:58I'm going to be in front of my peers.
- 25:00I'm following world champions of magic and international magicians.
- 25:04And I think that what I was most nervous about was that I had a set list that,
- 25:08made me feel like I was locked in.
- 25:10And then I made the decision before the show to go, okay, I've got a plan, but deviate.
- 25:15And I wasn't going to do those routines to control those audiences.
- 25:18I was going to do other stuff, but I had to change.
- 25:22And the stuff that I didn't do and the stuff that I threw in,
- 25:24because by reputation, Christian was like, you need to do this phone vanish thing.
- 25:29And I was like, I wasn't gonna, but now I will.
- 25:32So I had to change. so i changed my whole set in order to keep everyone
- 25:35happy and and that's when i felt like
- 25:38at peace before i did my set i'm like i got a couple of things i'll try
- 25:41and then i'm gonna freestyle and see
- 25:44how it goes there it is and so theater magic
- 25:47night wrapped up we had an awesome night hooray us round of applause good job
- 25:52boom do i even have the applause oh yeah there you go then taking it to the
- 25:58next day the happy sunday everyone went to church nobody went to church And
- 26:02then we ran to this convention. Yeah.
- 26:06The day kicked off. It was great. Firstly, what I loved is that I met so many
- 26:10nice people who listened to the pod. Did you meet Gregory?
- 26:13Yeah, of course. Gregory. Yeah. Yeah. I had a meeting before, but that was so cool.
- 26:17Dave, Mr. Perfect met him as well in a lot. He was like, Hey man,
- 26:22like you make my drives home, like so much more bearable.
- 26:25And I'm like, thank you so much, man. Like, that's so cool.
- 26:28Yeah. And then hanging out with Scotty P as well. And he was like,
- 26:32did a paid gig last night. And I'm like, my boy, you know what I mean?
- 26:35Like it was just. Actually.
- 26:36Yeah. If we get time at the end, we have a speak pipe from him.
- 26:39I made him send in a speak pipe about his first paid gig, but whether we play
- 26:43that now or next time, it's okay. But that's in the bank.
- 26:47We'll do a dedicated speak pipe episode the week after like that.
- 26:49Either way, we'll figure it out. Heck yeah.
- 26:51Yeah. Yeah. We'll maybe just send it down.
- 26:54You want to do it now? Yeah. We're doing it. No, no, no. I was saying that like,
- 26:58send through your speak pipes.
- 26:59Next week we're doing speak pipes. Sorry. Do we have anyone coming to interview?
- 27:03Not yet, but someone pretty exciting is in the works right now.
- 27:06But, you know, we'll leave that for now.
- 27:10Also, just while it's in my brain, next week in Brisbane, if you haven't got
- 27:15this email already, we have Jeff Hobson coming to lecture in Brisbane at our
- 27:21Theatre Magic venue, but obviously through Piper Magic.
- 27:24And that's crazy. I've heard people have messaged me saying already that they're
- 27:28going to fly in to come and see this. It's a one-off lecture because he's here doing a show.
- 27:33He's part of a big performance at QPAC, I think.
- 27:37And he's going to be here anyway. So the next day when we do the podcast,
- 27:41we'll be coming off of just having seen his lecture.
- 27:44So I'll be able to report back on that as well.
- 27:47Tim's asking, how many people were in attendance? How many people do you reckon?
- 27:51Well, they're both sold out shows. What's the capacity? Oh.
- 27:57I think it was limited to like 150, wasn't it?
- 28:00Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, yeah. Which is a lot of people to have
- 28:03in a Brisbane magician convention.
- 28:07Like to have in Brisbane that many years, great. Yeah, exactly.
- 28:11So, yeah, so circling back to the convention, we kicked off the day with some
- 28:16performances, which was really cool to start off with that. So there was two
- 28:19rooms that were separated.
- 28:21The room's up, really well seated, and then the act circulated performing.
- 28:26It was awesome, you know? So you see Martin Bresos go up there,
- 28:31do his set, killer stuff.
- 28:33Then you see same thing with Christian Grace. He was awesome.
- 28:37And then we had Card Genius.
- 28:41Sean Taylor? Oh, Sean Mergaard. Well, no. Well, that's about his storytelling.
- 28:46Oh, Andrew Wimhurst. Andrew Wimhurst did a bit.
- 28:49And man, watching the mechanic work proper is pretty cool.
- 28:56Like he's he's doing things that that i
- 28:59see done with breathers and so forth and he
- 29:02wasn't doing no breathers man like he wasn't doing any of that
- 29:05like it was just the the the most perfect cheating method used to achieve magic
- 29:11effects watching him do that it was very very cool watching him work was quite
- 29:16quite lovely and but yeah let's talk about sean murgaard real quick because
- 29:20I have been dying to meet him forever.
- 29:24If you don't know who he is, he's like, let's just, he's one of Brisbane's best
- 29:29kept secrets is the way I'm going to paint him. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:34He's affectionately known as the storytelling magician, which is,
- 29:37I think, a difficult thing to be able to achieve.
- 29:41And he gets up, he tells really interesting, meaningful pieces.
- 29:47And when he speaks, he has this kind of gravity, this magnetic sort of acting
- 29:55ability that I've only ever seen in someone like Edward Norton.
- 29:58And he has that energy. and when he speaks and
- 30:01he's telling his stories of during these performances man i
- 30:05was just so suck it in and the guy had
- 30:07my full attention and he performed really cool stuff like just really really
- 30:12cool stuff and i was so happy to finally meet him so i just wanted to sing his
- 30:15praises while we had an opportunity while and more importantly while he was
- 30:19on topic yeah you went around for the first portion of the close-up show where
- 30:22are you josh you would I had to sleep in,
- 30:25like in classic magician fashion.
- 30:27I needed a sleep in after Theater of Magic and my event on Friday.
- 30:31So I missed the close-up show. But what Nick's talking about is the convention
- 30:35started with a close-up show where the audience is split into two different
- 30:40rooms and you watch people do close-up magic.
- 30:42Then everyone would switch to the other room. Yeah.
- 30:45And then they'd see the other show that, you know, the first audience saw.
- 30:49So Sean Mogar's been a good friend in Brisbane. been
- 30:52he's like so well researched in his
- 30:54magic and and yeah great storytelling he
- 30:58was a mentalist for a long time but yeah his magic's just so well thought out
- 31:03so i'm glad you got to see him in person so stoked and yeah if there's an and
- 31:07he'll be performing with you this weekend at the theater of magic so if you
- 31:11guys are in town i implore you go scope it out if it hasn't sold out already
- 31:15because he is fantastic.
- 31:17Now, moving along. First lecture, Christian Grace.
- 31:22Bro. I think Martin went first, but that's okay. I'm just going off what the program said.
- 31:29Yeah, that's fine. I love it, Christian Grace.
- 31:33Sure. Great. Well, yeah, Christian, I love his energy, man. Like, it's so funny.
- 31:39His character, if I had to describe it, would be a guy that just got,
- 31:44you know, it's like Peter Parker just being bitten by the spider and discovering
- 31:48he has magic. And he's so excited to share with everyone this magic that he's like, able to do now.
- 31:53Like he, he just seems like a normal dude at the bar, but he can just fucking blow your mind.
- 31:59And then he can even like, give the power to someone
- 32:02else in the audience and make them have magic powers like he
- 32:05just and he's having so much fun in the meantime while
- 32:08doing it and then of course we
- 32:11start to learn about some of his thought process
- 32:14for how he's doing his magic and he just kept
- 32:17frying us and then he'd teach us how we
- 32:20did it and we're just so impressed and then he'd fry us again then
- 32:23he'd borrow a deck and like fry us
- 32:26with someone else's deck and like and not
- 32:29only is he an amazing card magician but he
- 32:32is also the creator of the cog is
- 32:35it cognito cognito app the that
- 32:38was called enigma that's sorry that's what i meant to say that
- 32:41was my second yeah the enigma app as well yeah
- 32:45as well as his magic monthly it's you
- 32:48know what it is i i almost feel like he's like
- 32:51one of the world's best mentalists disguised as
- 32:55a card guy because he has this psychological
- 32:58process in what he does that
- 33:01is so convincing and it's really nice that people
- 33:04take the time to think about that they think about the actual psychological experience
- 33:08they're having and and the premise is very interesting he did this particular
- 33:12effect it was called paradox the paradox yeah the paradox routine and i'm going
- 33:18to do my best to describe this quickly so you could appreciate it and i the
- 33:22reason i bring this up is that he has a online forum.
- 33:26A monthly magic thing that he does, where if you were to join,
- 33:30there is already 100 plus routines that is created, and you have access to all
- 33:35of that should you join tomorrow.
- 33:38And we might even do our best to try and bring him on the pod so we can have
- 33:42an opportunity to tell you himself about it.
- 33:44So I won't say much more about that. But I will say there was one particular
- 33:46routine where a card is selected in the most fairest condition.
- 33:52And then there's this visual image that he wants to lock in everyone's mind
- 33:55in which there is one card in front of you, the spectator.
- 33:57And he, the magician, there is a deck of playing cards.
- 34:01And then he just starts, without going near them, other than giving them some cards to shuffle.
- 34:05They shuffle their card into just packs
- 34:08of cards and he has them take cards and
- 34:11take cards until there's only like three or four left and he's like
- 34:14choose one take one top middle or bottom great and they make
- 34:16all the choices and then they now have shuffled their
- 34:19card you haven't touched the deck once and there's
- 34:23one card left in his hand and it's on the table so then
- 34:26there's this beautiful reverse paradox moment where in the
- 34:29beginning of the routine he had the pack they had one
- 34:32card at the end of the routine without going
- 34:35near their selection which they still have they now
- 34:37have the pack and their card in that pack
- 34:40and he's got one card in front of him only he
- 34:44doesn't he turns the pack over spreads through
- 34:47their selection is gone and the one card in
- 34:50front of him is their selection like it
- 34:53is so cool man so cool
- 34:56because it's this it's just so cool and
- 34:59the method's even cooler like it's even method is really
- 35:02cool and i watched i watched him do
- 35:05that twice at the theater of magic in both shows
- 35:08and then in his lecture and every time
- 35:11like i'm fooled i was fooled like tremendously
- 35:15the first time i saw it second time i'm still
- 35:18pretty fooled and then even by
- 35:21the lecture i'm still like i still couldn't go on perform this i.
- 35:24Still don't know x1 like and then
- 35:27he reveals it and you're like oh my god i wouldn't even think that you would
- 35:29be doing that yeah it
- 35:34was yeah juggling liam is saying yeah christian was amazing
- 35:37yeah his thought process is so good and he even taught an effect using someone
- 35:43else's deck where they just peek at a card and then you can cold read them and
- 35:47divine what their card is and you're actually doing cold reading for a good
- 35:52portion of it to genuinely find out what parts of their card is.
- 35:55And he just, and then he taught it. And I'm like, oh my God, this is so great.
- 36:00Yeah, we'll definitely get him on the pod, I'm sure. I mean,
- 36:03why wouldn't he want to come on and promote Magic Monthly?
- 36:06So I'll shoot him off a message. We will beg him. Beg him, absolutely. Come on.
- 36:11Yeah, yeah. So good. So then he shared a myriad of wonderful things.
- 36:16We could talk about him for the entire episode almost, you know,
- 36:19but the thing is there's so much more to talk about.
- 36:20So after that, we had a lunch break. That was great. And then we pop back into the next lecture.
- 36:26Martin Braeces, amazing magician from Argentina.
- 36:30His lecture for me was the best
- 36:33thing about the assembly for me personally because he
- 36:38had so many ideas and beautiful thoughts that
- 36:41i wanted to implement in myself
- 36:44and i knew the methods out there but i didn't want
- 36:47to use those ones and then he just come forward and goes well i
- 36:50do these methods and these are my solutions check them out beautiful stuff
- 36:54absolutely beautiful oh do we need a reference um what's just popped
- 36:56up yeah absolutely matt matt sigmeyer
- 37:01thank you for the ten dollar donation to the magic guys that will get us some
- 37:05sweet sweet couple of decks of bicycle bicycles thank you my friend his question
- 37:10is i mainly do close up but i've been hosting a local trivia night on the mic
- 37:15and want to try a parlor style trick for a group of about 30 to 40 people,
- 37:20Why am I scared out of my boots and how do I work through it?
- 37:24Ooh, you've come to the right place, my friend.
- 37:27And thank you. These trivia nights, you know, I have another friend named Max
- 37:31in Brisbane who does the same thing.
- 37:33He hosts a trivia night because Magician's a great showman, naturally.
- 37:37Trivia nights, you know, no piece of cake. But you know what?
- 37:41This is a great place for you to start trying magic because you're not there
- 37:44predominantly to do a whole show.
- 37:46You can just start with one piece at a time. So Nick...
- 37:50How does he work through it, being scared? Well, here's one thing you might want to do, Matt.
- 37:54If you do close-up magic and you're obviously more comfortable performing what you know.
- 38:00One thing you want to sort of understand and consider about close-up magic is
- 38:04that it's performed like typically on a table flat in what I guess this is the horizontal plane.
- 38:11If you have a way of performing the same routine, but think about presenting
- 38:16it in a more vertical plane, right?
- 38:19Like in front of you, you might be able to do the same stuff you already know,
- 38:23just present it on a different plane, which means that you don't need to feel
- 38:28worried or frightened about it because you know the routine.
- 38:31You're already working an existing repertoire.
- 38:33You're just doing it up high where people can see it a bit better as opposed
- 38:36to holding it down here on a flat plane where they would look at it from the table above.
- 38:41So go through your repertoire and see if there's anything there that you might
- 38:46be able to perform in a stand-up position as opposed to flatten the table.
- 38:50That's my first thing to advise. Josh?
- 38:53Yeah, that's exactly right. Find the thing, a routine that you're most comfortable
- 38:58doing. You've done a thousand times.
- 38:59Find a way to present that standing up. If card magic is your jam,
- 39:06then learn the homing card, the cards to pocket.
- 39:10It's ambitious, but you can do it standing up. The audience can understand something
- 39:14was here and now it's here.
- 39:16And that's it. You're always going to feel comfortable.
- 39:20You're always going to feel scared because of the unknown.
- 39:23Like you just haven't done it yet. That's all. But you're being scared of something
- 39:26that hasn't happened yet. So why be scared?
- 39:29You know, once you do it, you'll feel great. You'll learn from it either way.
- 39:32Just make sure the thing you're doing isn't, if don't do something new,
- 39:37like completely, completely new that'll make you more worried.
- 39:40But yeah, confidence comes from preparation. So just rehearse it a lot,
- 39:45standing up. Do something quick, like just do something that's like.
- 39:49Quick prediction or something fast, then the next trivia night you host,
- 39:54do something that's a little bit longer.
- 39:57Yeah. I think you'll have fun with it. I think you'd be okay.
- 39:59And I look forward to hearing, send a speak pipe of you giving it a go. Tell us what happened.
- 40:04Absolutely, buddy. Best of luck with it. And yeah, lean in, of course,
- 40:07if we can be of any help. Yeah.
- 40:08A hundred percent. I love it.
- 40:10So Martin, now I, yeah, watching Martin's lecture, I could, I loved it.
- 40:15I loved it. And I could see it being down your alley, Nick, especially with some of his methods.
- 40:24And like, he did this one tidbit, just the effect, like what I saw happen.
- 40:29How cool is this? He takes flash paper and he takes a lighter.
- 40:33He lights the flash paper and it turns into the lighter.
- 40:37He just lighted the flash paper with and he turns back and now there's nothing in his hand.
- 40:43Like, like discombobulate someone's brain for
- 40:46a second like what did i just see happen yeah and
- 40:49he's explaining that this is something he would do casually where
- 40:53he hasn't said he's gonna do magic he's just with his
- 40:56friends or at a bar or people don't know
- 40:58he's being like that he knows they're watching him he'll
- 41:01just do it and it's the lighter like that's and
- 41:05that's just the tip of the iceberg but i was the
- 41:07first person to get in line to buy what
- 41:11he was selling because that it's typical when a
- 41:14magician lectures if you haven't been to a convention that they'll
- 41:17actually talk about some things that they will sell like
- 41:20because some things will require props or gimmicks or whatever and
- 41:24and he did and man like the line was i think
- 41:27every single person that i've talked to so far left
- 41:30with a martin breces effect because it's
- 41:34so good he has this beautiful gimmicks in
- 41:37which you let me describe
- 41:40the effect and when you purchase the gimmicks it allows you
- 41:43to do this so there's a candle and he
- 41:47basically hand palm down touches the
- 41:50candle and turns his hand up and he's holding fire he is holding fire one more
- 41:56time he is holding fire okay he then closes his fist to put the fire out and
- 42:02when he opens his hand he's got a coin on his hand and then it's Takes the coin, does it again.
- 42:10He's holding fire, closes his hand, fire goes out, opens it up,
- 42:14another coin. He produces three coins in this manner.
- 42:18Sick stuff, man. And then he shows how you can adapt the gimmick where you can
- 42:22produce billiard balls.
- 42:25You can produce like all manner. You can produce a cookie from the event. Yeah.
- 42:31Like you can have firing, turn into a cookie, take a bite out of it.
- 42:36Yeah. He made a sponge ball appear
- 42:38from fire. That was impressive because sponge balls don't like fire.
- 42:41And he's like, and then it's a red sponge ball. Yeah. Like...
- 42:46Just so cool yeah i immediately find
- 42:49that intriguing to use more
- 42:52than flash paper for certain items because it's just
- 42:55so cool to be able to come up to like how many times at events
- 42:58are they little those little bowl candles on
- 43:01tables and if you can just come up to it and
- 43:03instead of doing flash paper throwing it
- 43:06to your hand for whatever you just come over it they
- 43:09see you pick up the freaking flame and then you close your hand
- 43:12and it's an item it's so great it's
- 43:15unreal uh yeah yeah very
- 43:19good Liam was saying he had an electric fire wallet
- 43:22yeah those are pretty epic yeah in fact it's so red
- 43:25I even find those nowadays he had he actually has
- 43:27some stuff that he hadn't even demoed yet but that was available at his merchandise
- 43:31stand that really cool thing with the silk which is not his but he had access
- 43:34to it there was a particular gimmick deck that he had this this this blank deck
- 43:39effect that he was performing and that was that was really special And so I
- 43:43bought the deck because I like having utilities.
- 43:46I like things that you can create your own stuff out of it. You know what I mean?
- 43:50If someone said, look, there's a saw you can build houses with.
- 43:53Great, I can build my own house with this saw.
- 43:55I like that manner of thinking. So it was really cool. He is lecturing here in Melbourne.
- 44:01Any Melbourne listeners out there, if you haven't got tickets.
- 44:04It's not just a dedicated boring card lecture. It's not my advice.
- 44:09You have to see it. Like I said, for me, it was my favorite thing of the whole
- 44:12convention because it speaks to me in my style of magic.
- 44:17Go see it. If you haven't got a ticket yet, please go get one now.
- 44:21So after that, we had dinner. Oh no, we had Sean Taylor's lecture.
- 44:29Come on, Sean Taylor. He is now originally from the UK and now an Australian
- 44:37national treasure. That's what this guy is, honestly.
- 44:41His accolades are phenomenal.
- 44:45He's worked on so many things. One of the best routines that were part of the Penn and Teller tour.
- 44:50You might recall when we went and saw Penn and Teller, how he did this effect
- 44:53with these balloons and so forth.
- 44:55Sean Taylor had a very big hand in that. And a lot of people don't know that,
- 44:58but it goes to speak to the volumes of knowledge this guy has.
- 45:03And he's released so many books, Minecoaster and the other one, was it Minefields?
- 45:08Mind i know he has mind storm or
- 45:12his mind storm and that was my coaster that's the right right
- 45:15the two main books his thought process
- 45:18on the mentalism game is very good very practical and
- 45:21it's genuinely things that he performs himself and i'll
- 45:25talk about his performance in the gala later but the
- 45:28lecture was so good and one thing the me that stood
- 45:31out he has this deck of cards that
- 45:35emulates the esp thing never really
- 45:38liked where people go like i have these esp cards and
- 45:42they only have six cards but he has this
- 45:45genius thought process where he's taken esp
- 45:48cards and literally converted them into a proper pack of playing cards where
- 45:54you have four different colors representing four different suits and each value
- 45:59is represented by an esp symbol that is extremely easy to remember with a very
- 46:04good marking system and a whole bunch of other stuff.
- 46:06I cannot tell you how good this is. If you are a mentalist and this is not in
- 46:11your kit or you don't own one of these, you're doing yourself a disservice.
- 46:16It is so good. So, so good.
- 46:20Yeah, it was great to see a pro that just like, he's released so many effects
- 46:23over the years because he's just so great at creating magic while performing.
- 46:28And he just, yeah, like, yeah, he just banged out like so much magic in the
- 46:32lecture. He's like, here's another thing I created. Here's another thing.
- 46:35And yeah, his ESP deck, to have an entire deck of essentially different ESP
- 46:40symbols because there's different colors and variations.
- 46:44Now you can do card effects, but it's not a card effect because you're,
- 46:50Using symbols, reading their mind, and totally different.
- 46:54And yeah, he fried us with a good bunch of effects.
- 46:58Yeah. His work on the envelope was awesome. That's him texting you right now, I think.
- 47:03He goes, yeah, he could tell. I was talking shit about him. He can tell.
- 47:07Yeah. Yeah. So it was the envelope stuff that he did as well.
- 47:13You know, he did this beautiful, I'm getting sent nudes, I'm sorry,
- 47:15from Sean Taylor. I'll mute that.
- 47:20So, yeah, his envelope work was really, really cool. Like, really, really cool.
- 47:25And it's not something I mess with, and I regret it now. Like,
- 47:29it's definitely something that I'm now going to mess with.
- 47:32Yeah, scope out his work. Yeah, his envelope, real quick, like,
- 47:36for example, he showed, instead of doing a coin flip where you have a whole
- 47:40audience standing up, this macro effect, you do a heads and tails game until
- 47:45you whittle down to one person,
- 47:47he has a way to do it with envelopes, and it's asking questions like what do
- 47:51you prefer, A or B, and just freely just ripping this envelope open, taking out the answer.
- 47:58You can whittle down and predict who will be the final person.
- 48:01And now you're not relying on can I sense which way up or down this coin is
- 48:06or in the moment you forget or accidentally say the wrong one.
- 48:09It's a very surefire method that you can tailor to have.
- 48:14Like if you're at a company event, The questions can be tailored to the industry you're in.
- 48:20It's very, very, very clever. Definitely search it out.
- 48:23And yeah, he's a pro. You can tell he's a pro. He's done it forever.
- 48:27So we could yeah oh oh and we'll like we'll circle back
- 48:30to his oh let's can we move on to the gala now and talk about
- 48:33like what that was like yeah so after that amazing lecture
- 48:36which again we could talk about for a whole episode we had
- 48:39a gala show in which we had a
- 48:41bunch of a mixture of our international guests and
- 48:45of course our local talent performing there one of which of
- 48:48course was our good friend the amazing nigel who took the night
- 48:50out doing his signature pieces which are amazing but
- 48:54the night kicked off with our mc who is
- 48:57an absolute hero of mine
- 49:00if you don't know him his name
- 49:03is darren carr and he oh my god
- 49:06if he's not one of the funniest people on the planet christ almighty christ
- 49:12almighty yeah darren carr please i need to i need to see that i need to say
- 49:19because this is my first time I'd heard of Darren Carr because he'd been on
- 49:23one of the earliest seasons of Australia's Got Talent.
- 49:26And I knew he was working the scene doing corporate gigs.
- 49:29I'd hear about him talking and stuff like that. Scotty P is saying in the chat,
- 49:34Darren had me peeing my pants. Absolutely. And that was even before the show.
- 49:38I'd never seen Darren work in person. So anytime I met him, he just looked like
- 49:43a very polite guy because he wasn't, you know, in show mode.
- 49:48So I assumed he was good, but I, you know, that was kind of it.
- 49:53But seeing this guy work was freaking mind-blowing.
- 49:57Unreal. His timing and writing ability for jokes and callbacks and his tonality
- 50:05and like the silence before he continues to make you laugh. Like he'd make you
- 50:10laugh by not saying anything.
- 50:11And then obviously he's a comedian, but his act is...
- 50:16Ventriloquism.
- 50:19Throughout the show, mixed up amongst his comedy. And, you know,
- 50:23when sometimes when you hear us talk about magicians, you know,
- 50:26we, we sing them praise because, you know, we're nice guys and they're nice guys.
- 50:30So we'll sing them praise, but this is not that this is genuinely,
- 50:33this fricking guy had 150 magicians losing their shit every single time he came on stage.
- 50:42Like Nick, what was the first thing
- 50:44he did and and by the way he's quite
- 50:47a chunky dude and he uses that in his act so we can
- 50:50say that right like he's a big dude so you see a big dude come on stage and
- 50:55then what happens nick yeah he's a heavy set dude super stocky looking but more
- 51:00like a cuddly wholesome thing right and he comes out he's got his suit on he
- 51:05grabs the microphone and then he says.
- 51:09He grabs the microphone he then grabs the mic
- 51:12stand and says let me get this out of the way
- 51:15so you can see me that hit
- 51:18so that hit so well
- 51:22just to start things off you know
- 51:25especially when he's this heavyset dude and it's like we can
- 51:28see you buddy we can see you and it's
- 51:31so rather with the single line that everyone goes
- 51:35like he hits so fast and so hard
- 51:38as far as a laugh goes yeah like it is crazy and then he gets up he does this
- 51:43opening bit everyone's red hot from the laughs he's a proper good vent like
- 51:49it is just he's just he's just a master and and this circling back to the first
- 51:53time i saw him and the first time i also saw a good friend the amazing nigel.
- 52:00He headlined the show when we first, this was back in Rudy Hill at the GenieCon convention.
- 52:05And everyone was like, no, no, no, I'm not going after Darren.
- 52:08And because everyone refused, I am not going on after Darren.
- 52:13Like, that's it. And I'm like, who is he? And then he actually ended up like
- 52:18headlining. And I went, now I know why.
- 52:21Because it was the first time when you see those like, oh, this will have you
- 52:26rolling in the aisles, genuinely rolling in the aisles. I was literally on the floor.
- 52:30I was laughing so hard that I had tears in my eyes and I was trying to wipe
- 52:35them because I didn't want to miss anything. I was like trying to hold my eyes open.
- 52:38And the beautiful thing is because he's ripping on himself first,
- 52:44like he makes lots of jokes about his weight and his life.
- 52:47So that gives permission to now rip on the audience or, you know,
- 52:52like he did some great digs at Piper Magic who organized. Yeah.
- 52:57And you. what did he say to you he's like why do you have nothing on top it's
- 53:00like you're upside down you got hair at the bottom and nothing on top he was
- 53:03like how come you're bald but you got a beard looks like your face is upside
- 53:06down that's right that's right and he's like you know it's a pleasure to be
- 53:10here so glad that i'm not getting paid today you know but you get to come for free.
- 53:15But his delivery is so good and and
- 53:18his ability to let the audience laugh just
- 53:22long enough and then he's like anyway and then
- 53:25he just has another killer line ready to go we need
- 53:29to have him on this podcast why the hell have we
- 53:32not had him on yet we let's that i'm sending
- 53:35a message to him let's beg well he probably needs to recover
- 53:37but this week i'm definitely sending him a message you guys
- 53:40need to see how great this dude is i understand why you
- 53:44don't see videos of him going up and promo and
- 53:47pushing media and stuff because he doesn't need to he's just
- 53:50fucking funny so it funny proper yeah
- 53:53just just for reference there is like this particular award i
- 53:56forget what it's called but it's quite prestigious to the point where john
- 53:59farnham who is i don't know what you want to the
- 54:02australian icon yeah he's an australian icon he's kind
- 54:05of like the i don't know he's like the bruce springsteen or something of you
- 54:08know like like he's he's affectionately known to
- 54:11us as australia as the voice like he isn't that voice
- 54:14he's won this award like seven times
- 54:17darren cars won an eight of like
- 54:21being australia's best entertainer like just for reference that's how good that
- 54:25sounds right that's how good he is so anyway so he opens up following him is
- 54:30my friend and yours brendan dooley all the way from new zealand and he performs
- 54:34his killer bit uh hoop and glass routine which man rock rock the room.
- 54:41Like he does this bit like, and, and I half wonder if he did it on purpose because
- 54:45you know that thing where jugglers do, it's like, they're going to do their
- 54:47final trick and they screw it up once or twice. Yeah.
- 54:50Sometimes wonder, I should have asked him, but it's this whole like flip on
- 54:54the front, flip behind the back, flip this and that, catch it,
- 54:58toss it in the air, grab the drink and then skull. Like it was.
- 55:02I've never seen it in, in real life. It was crazy to see.
- 55:05And Brennan's a tall guy and the roof is a low roof.
- 55:08So he even had to, for the finale, so we're just talking about a little wooden
- 55:13hoop and a glass of water that's balancing on it and you're spinning it around
- 55:17and he like does a double, he throws it and it spins around twice in the air.
- 55:22Catches it, throws it up, catches the glass.
- 55:25And yeah, he dropped it once or twice, like, which what, like what to Nick saying,
- 55:30sometimes you have to stuff it up to let people know what you're doing is real.
- 55:34Because like for a second i'm like how is
- 55:37that water not coming out when you're flipping it around like maybe it's
- 55:40a gimmick glass but the fact that it did spill on one
- 55:44of the early ones maybe go oh holy crap okay this is
- 55:46all as it is yeah and then when you see him
- 55:49nail the the big finale i mean
- 55:52every version he was doing was amazing but then when you see him
- 55:55do it it's like holy crap this is insane absolutely
- 55:59he followed up with a killer card trick and then he finished
- 56:02with his killer piece of he's just a bill
- 56:05a bill inside crunchy bar it's one
- 56:08of the cleanest things you'll ever see credit to him on the
- 56:10method for that super genius stuff and and then yeah
- 56:13people were talking about it like consistently afterwards so like well done
- 56:16to him oh yeah yep then our good friend martin he also performed a set as well
- 56:21again just beautiful spanish magic yeah that's it found a way martin's found
- 56:28a really nice way of like you know he's English is great,
- 56:32but it is, he does have a Spanish accent, obviously being from Argentina.
- 56:36So, but he uses that to his advantage. Like he will say things and like how
- 56:42you say, you know, cup and ball.
- 56:44And it'd be like, ah, you know, this saying is better in Spanish.
- 56:47Yes. And then, you know, he, he, and he, he uses his Spanish style of like very one time.
- 56:54It's like, do this and chat and da, da, da, da, da, like shuffle the deck.
- 56:57Like, can you, instead of saying, can you shuffle the deck? Like,
- 57:00he's like, can you cha-da-da-da-da?
- 57:01Great. And then as they're shuffling, he's like, cha-da-da-da-da.
- 57:04He's just like having fun and there's no like dull moments.
- 57:08And like, he's like teaching some Spanish words throughout the show.
- 57:12And it's like very unique to any of the other acts.
- 57:15Like everyone else that came on stage is trying to be funny and trying to be
- 57:19like, you know, comedy magic.
- 57:21But he's, he's stood out as being so, so different, but really engaging.
- 57:26He does this really funny bit where he's like, my English is not so good.
- 57:28Your name is? And he's like, I'm Liam. He's like, can I call you Martin?
- 57:32Good. And then goes another person, what is your name? And he's like,
- 57:36Martin. And then he goes to the third person. He's like, and your name is?
- 57:38He's like, Gavin. He's like.
- 57:41And after an awkward pause goes Martin oh good Martin yeah and then he gets
- 57:46a woman and then he gets a lady he's like in your name Martina good come on
- 57:51Martina and then there's a beautiful piece of magic with them like just really fun,
- 57:55really really fun stuff so and again he's a pleasure to watch he slayed yeah
- 58:00then we took a short break after that which I had to pee because Darren's so
- 58:04funny Sean Taylor I've got to talk about Sean Taylor's set he's mentally in peace bro,
- 58:09what are you going to say about it okay so he did the thing with the balls like
- 58:15okay you know that thing where it's like all these bags go in a ball you grab a ball and then you say.
- 58:20Like there's there's one black ball one miscolored ball in amongst
- 58:23all these white balls and you got to guess which color the ball is and then
- 58:26you saw like no magnets no
- 58:30none of that jazz like just really really cool
- 58:33and i'm like this was this was awesome this was really really awesome and
- 58:36what i loved about watching his act as well is that it's fun
- 58:39watching the process like i i say
- 58:42this i don't say this with any beguilement but it's
- 58:45that type of thing where like what is mentalism it's a
- 58:48one minute routine crammed into 30 minutes you know and that process or watching
- 58:54people attempt to make it look like a process can be so laborious and so like
- 58:59can you do the magic already or can you do the the moment already and you're
- 59:03like oh but watching the way sean does it master.
- 59:07It's just beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
- 59:10And so that was great. Then he did this awesome...
- 59:16Lottery prediction and i loved
- 59:19that because i'm working on a lot of predictions myself and his was
- 59:22so clever like so clever and and
- 59:25i just thought it was brilliant i just thought his set was absolutely killer he
- 59:28knocked it out the park and yeah i just don't
- 59:31have enough good things to say about him it was such a pleasure to watch him like work
- 59:35it was just great yeah and
- 59:38then i think rounding it out was our good friend uh the amazing
- 59:41nigel to close the night right yeah the amazing
- 59:45Nigel you know he's so seasoned and he
- 59:48just like he was the perfect guy to close the show
- 59:51because he even after the audience watching magic
- 59:54for an hour and a half or an hour and 50 minutes he just came up with such energy
- 59:58like he always does like a champ and he loves doing magic that's like weird
- 1:00:03and peculiar and funny and so good so he did a routine with cheese which if
- 1:00:09you've seen him perform you'll know what it is if you haven't you should just
- 1:00:11come to see him perform because is at the theater of magic every week.
- 1:00:14And so he's getting people up. He's like having people throw slices of cheese
- 1:00:19into the audience and putting them, they're putting cheese down their pants
- 1:00:23and all this hilarious stuff.
- 1:00:24And then, and that's great. And then he closes out the convention like a fricking champ, man.
- 1:00:35Like he, as people are coming in and sitting down, he walks about the place,
- 1:00:39he shakes your hand. He says, what is your name?
- 1:00:42You tell him, and he goes radio and remembers it and then at the end of the show.
- 1:00:48He thanks every one of you by name to show that he remembered every single.
- 1:00:52And not only that, there was people who were like, you moved seats.
- 1:00:54You were over there before.
- 1:00:55Yeah, that was so good. Like, we all know he can do this.
- 1:00:59Like, he's the only person in Australia I know of that is a memory expert in
- 1:01:03this way. And that's why he's had such a long career.
- 1:01:06He's the only person that can freaking do it. So we all know he's going to do
- 1:01:10it. Like, we know it's going to happen.
- 1:01:12We know he can do it. but yet seeing him
- 1:01:15recite 150 people's names
- 1:01:18is still so incredible to
- 1:01:21watch and when he said you were
- 1:01:24sitting over there you change your name and like oh you
- 1:01:27gave me this name but your real name is this name and like
- 1:01:31he's throwing in jokes as he's naming every single
- 1:01:34person in the convention we have another sean there's a
- 1:01:37sean there sean there sean there and sean there and
- 1:01:39a sean there
- 1:01:44you know and like scott p is saying a
- 1:01:46lot of complicated names too like there are a lot of like asian
- 1:01:49names that had that phonetically in australia is hard to pronounce but he not
- 1:01:53only pronounced it but remembered it and yeah and what's funny is like i think
- 1:01:59his record is 300 names so for him at the theater of magic when he does this
- 1:02:0450 people is like a walk in the park for him but But for me to remember 50 names,
- 1:02:09freaking impossible in an hour.
- 1:02:11So yes, and then 150 names is still not even maxing out his CPU and his brain.
- 1:02:17But like for us, it's incredible. So that got a standing ovation to end the gala show.
- 1:02:25And it was just like the perfect placement to have him there and to have Darren emceeing.
- 1:02:29For me, Darren and Nigel were the highlights because I'd never seen Darren work.
- 1:02:34And it's just so, so funny. It didn't even have to do magic And then Nigel's
- 1:02:40always going to be a favourite Because like.
- 1:02:42That's a skill no one has. I don't know a single person personally that does it.
- 1:02:48And yeah, to me, it's Harry Lorraine and the amazing Nigel. I can't remember names, you know? Yeah.
- 1:02:53Now we have interviewed Nigel once before on episode 178.
- 1:02:58So if you do want to listen to that, you can, thank you, Google.
- 1:03:03You can listen back on your favorite platform or of course, go back and scope it out on YouTube.
- 1:03:08If you just look up memory master, the amazing Nigel, that's
- 1:03:12episode 178 so yeah if you
- 1:03:14i revisit that episode it is
- 1:03:17brilliant yeah all in all the assembly
- 1:03:20convention was unreal there's talks of
- 1:03:23it coming back next year sean throughout
- 1:03:26he throughout the line maybe next year so
- 1:03:29maybe it's a time to consider coming
- 1:03:32and visit australia and checking out a cool lecture because
- 1:03:35there's always top tier guests coming along
- 1:03:38to it and now i'm just more excited even
- 1:03:41more excited now for magic live in august because
- 1:03:44this was like such a great time such
- 1:03:48a great weekend and now
- 1:03:50i look forward to doing more of that convention-y stuff indeed it
- 1:03:54was great but you know the good thing about conventions as well friends is not
- 1:03:58only what happens in the convention but the moments in between the moments that
- 1:04:01you make friends there are so many people that i met i met harry i met lewis
- 1:04:06amazing hassan he was just these guys these guys have hands,
- 1:04:09man. These guys have hands and it's like.
- 1:04:12That's the beauty of these sort of situations. You meet these people,
- 1:04:14you set up these friendships and you watch them do stuff. That,
- 1:04:18that, that's where the magic is. Those moments in between.
- 1:04:21Unfortunately, we're at an hour and seven minutes now here on the YouTube.
- 1:04:25So it's at the point where we sort of need to wrap up and we could talk about
- 1:04:28all that stuff, but I implore you have an opportunity to be a part of a convention
- 1:04:33and learn some knowledge.
- 1:04:35I highly suggest you do it. And again, we will keep pushing to ensure that Piper
- 1:04:39does these again in the future and And we'll do everything we can to be a part of it as well.
- 1:04:43And everyone who came and said hello and listened to the pod,
- 1:04:46hey, man, so cool to meet you.
- 1:04:48Again, shout out to Dave and Gregory, who I hadn't met before.
- 1:04:51And of course, to catch up with good friend Scotty P, who we love immensely.
- 1:04:56It was great. So I think as we take out the episode, is there anything we want to make mention?
- 1:05:01Look, I'm saying this to the universe. We want to have Christian Grace on the
- 1:05:05pod. We want to have Darren Carr on the pod.
- 1:05:07But otherwise it was just yeah it was great to see
- 1:05:10fellow magicians people that listen
- 1:05:13to the pod people who don't listen to the pod but just
- 1:05:16you know just great guys and yeah it's
- 1:05:19great to watch my fellow brother nick work at the
- 1:05:22theater of magic as always we're gonna do more of
- 1:05:25that and yeah all around such a fun weekend
- 1:05:28so that's it my friends i
- 1:05:30hope you could live a little bit vicariously through us yeah in
- 1:05:33fact everyone out there message christian grace on instagram
- 1:05:37and go please go on the magic guys podcast just shoot
- 1:05:39him that and i'll i'll do the rest thank you
- 1:05:42yes and we will see you next time on the magic guys thanks for listening it's
- 1:05:51time for us to disappear now disappear now but we'll see you again on the next
- 1:05:57episode of the magic guys.