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Dark Pop's Ellise on Pretty Evil, Heartbreak & Her Next Era | Delulu with Ryan Lu #207 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  Oh my God we're so toxic. I know it's so I don't like to
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  do like a. Problem people are gonna watch
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  this and be like we're the problem.
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  You guys are the villain. We're the problem.
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  Absolutely. Gonna say it before you guys can
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  say it. We are.
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  Yeah, no, I acknowledge it. I said earlier I want to be the
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  villain. Why did your uncle go to jail?
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  Let's stop it right? I will think back and like thank
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  God I can't remember anything ever because honestly if I could
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  remember half the shit I've said and done over a man I would
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  probably. Oh my God, I'm the most
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  embarrassing when it comes to man.
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  It's so fucking embarrassed, like.
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  The embarrassing thing is, is the man, because it's like, why
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  am I acting so crazy over this guy?
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  Like who is this? This is just some guy.
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  This is just. Some guy.
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  Hello Spooky Lulus, and welcome back to Delulu and a very
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  special Halloween episode of Delulu with the perfect guest
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  for it. We are joined by Miss Dark Pop
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  Siren herself. Elise.
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  Hi, thank you so much for being. Here, thank you for having me.
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  You were literally, we've been playing this episode for I want
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  to see, I want to say over six weeks now.
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  So like almost two months, which is a long time planet episode,
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  but we were like really looking for the perfect Halloween
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  episode guest. I'm so honored.
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  You embody. It honored.
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  That is like the best compliment to me.
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  Like Halloween episode. Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
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  Oh my God, you were the Halloween episode.
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  And you're also the perfect guest for the season of Delulu
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  because Season 2 of Delulu, which we're on right now, is
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  Delulu After Dark. Love it.
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  And we're about to get a little dark in here, which is actually
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  kind of funny. We were talking before this show
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  started and you're super bubbly and bright.
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  Yeah, you know, a lot of people when they meet me think I'm
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  going to be very like brooding and yes, and dry.
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  But I'm actually, I feel like my personality is very opposite to
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  my aesthetic and my music. That's so funny 'cause I
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  actually literally not on no ironic shit.
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  I think I'm very brooding and dry, but I think my like entire
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  vibe comes off very bubbly and bright.
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  Yeah. So I wait, do you did you think
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  I come up with like brooding and dry?
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  No, I think you come off like you're definitely outgoing and
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  bubbly, but you just have like the little like dry sarcasm,
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  which I love you. Clock that humor.
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  I saw it. I I real recognize real.
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  Real recognize real 'cause I feel like a lot of people on my
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  team like are still learning that like what just how I talk
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  and how I interact and how I am. They're always like, wait.
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  And I'm like, yeah, no, that's what that is.
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  OK, Real recognize real. I love it.
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  Well, welcome to the Lulu After Dark, you guys.
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  If you're not watching on the Spotify version of the show, we
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  decorate the set for Elise and for Halloween.
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  So we have a little spider web action going on.
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  We love it. And this is our friend, our
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  other guest, Frankie this. Is Frankie.
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  This is Frankie. You can't see, but he has a
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  bunch of crystals in his lap and we're we're about to get spooky
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  up in this bitch. He's a witch.
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  He's 4 foot 10. He's single.
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  Yeah. You know what to do.
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  The Hinge profile for Frankie 4 foot 10 I mean.
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  He went up to like here. On you're right, you're accurate
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  'cause you're 5. 210 I'm 5/2 so he he's a tall boy.
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  He's a tall boy. We love a short king.
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  Yeah, in the stuffed animal genre, he's a tall boy, but he's
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  he could be a short king. Yeah, and he's available.
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  Well, at least I just met you. But I want to know everything
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  about you. Can you, like, tell us where
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  you're from, what's going on here, how you ended up in LA
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  making music? For sure.
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  I, I'm from the Bay Area originally, so I grew up around
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  San Francisco. My family moved around the Bay a
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  lot. I have one younger brother and
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  him and I always grew up playing a ton of music.
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  No one else in my family is super musical.
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  But then my brother and I just like, came out and started going
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  crazy and yeah, I was always singing.
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  He was always playing piano. He's like a classically trained,
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  like insane pianist. So we would always just kind of
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  be doing that. And I grew up like knowing I
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  wanted to sing so bad. That was I ever wanted.
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  Literally my first e-mail address in like third grade was
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  pop star elise@yahoo.com. Oh my God, you kind of
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  manifested that. No, I've.
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  Been manifesting like I have journals from like first grade
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  where it literally is like before I even knew what
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  manifestation was I would just be like I want to be a pop star
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  I want to be a pop *10 times in a row.
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  Who do I want to meet? Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber Like
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  I would I just always knew I wanted to sing my whole life
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  were. You like into manifestation.
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  Like at the time, no, I was like a child but you.
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  Were just like writing that I was.
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  Just like writing that. I mean I guess I was manifesting
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  but I. Was manifested.
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  Yeah, I've just been diarying and journaling about that since
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  I was a little child because I always loved to write too, but I
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  didn't put songwriting together until later.
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  But yeah, I was just like journaling and stuff.
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  But I knew I wanted to do music, so I moved here very young,
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  which was a crazy decision. Were here.
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  I was 17 when I moved here, 17 with like no parents, like I was
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  just living on my own. Wait, So what?
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  Like, so you wanted this your entire life, but then you come
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  out to LA to do this? Like, what made you think like,
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  OK, I'm gonna go for it? Like I'm actually gonna do it.
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  Honestly, blind confidence, love it and like delusion.
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  Like Delulu? Delulu, delulu.
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  Literally have never once. I mean, obviously I'm normal,
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  like I'm a human. I have moments of doubt.
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  But my ultimate overarching feeling has never been like, oh,
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  I'm scared to do that. It's always been like, I'm just
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  gonna do it and see what it's not gonna like I'm like, I'm a
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  warrior. Like I'm gonna go for it.
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  I'm just like, yeah, let me do this and see if it works out.
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  And if it doesn't, I also think I'm not super terrified of
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  failure because I've had so many of them.
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  Yeah, that that's just like kept me in the game because I'm like,
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  it's OK, there will be another thing.
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  Did you have like a Plan B when you came?
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  I'm out here. No.
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  I love that. Not when I came out here.
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  I definitely go on side quest sometimes.
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  Like I've randomly done college, not not to degree level, but
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  like there was two years where I was like going on tour and like
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  doing finals. Like I just have random side
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  quest moments. But no, no.
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  Really. You know that's not the path
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  you're trying to do though. Yeah, it's more like I'm just a
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  Virgo and really love. I've got a.
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  Virgo too. When's your birthday?
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  It was 2 weeks ago. Happy birthday to you.
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  Happy birthday to you. Wait, what day?
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  August. 26th. OK.
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  You're in August. Virgo.
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  Yeah, you're in August. Virgo Yeah, I'm the 10th.
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  Oh my God, that was recent. Yeah, like last week.
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  Happy birthday. Thank you.
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  OK. Wait, so all your life, you
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  know, you want to be an artist? No doubt about that.
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  Yeah. And you just went for it.
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  I just started going for it. I mean I definitely took some
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  major tumbles along the way and I think like my lore is so dark
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  and extensive because of moving to LA at 17.
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  Oh my God, it's such an evil city.
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  Like I love LA so much, and that's actually a little bit of
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  why I love LA. So it's a little evil, you know
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  what I mean? I find I act myself to be more
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  like darker. At least I don't know how to
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  explain it. I act in myself like darker.
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  I like the darker things too, because I know for you, a lot of
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  influences in your music, your aesthetic, your visuals are
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  darker leaning. Yeah.
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  Yeah, big time and I love that. Thank you.
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  I I've always loved doing like the Halloween sort of like dark
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  aesthetic. Honestly, how I first started
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  was putting out Halloween EPS. That was like some of my first
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  releases was just like Halloween themed EPS, which like now is
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  like so dark pop vibes. But back at the time, dark pop
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  wasn't really being like back at the times, but honestly, yeah,
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  like 2018, 1920, yeah, yeah. Dark pop wasn't like being used
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  really as a term yet. So I was just like, I'm making
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  Halloween music. Oh, that's so.
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  Cute. And it was so fun.
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  I've done like 4 of them, or maybe five of them.
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  No, I've done four of them. So I don't do them every year
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  but like some Octobers when they roll around.
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  Your fans look forward to it cuz I seen your comments.
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  They're asking like, is there gonna be a Halloween project
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  this year? Right.
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  Yeah. And this is the Halloween
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  episodes. So happy Halloween, everyone
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  happy watching right now. But yeah, Halloween is so deeply
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  ingrained in your lore, too. Do you feel like you've always
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  just loved like that holiday in general, or is it just the
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  darkness of it? I've always loved Halloween.
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  I love to dress up like I love a costume I love.
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  That's what's fun about being a pop star too.
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  It's like. Oh, it's so is it's like
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  Halloween all the time. Like I'm literally anytime I'm
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  on a video shoot or anything where I get to.
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  Like dress up. It's just the best.
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  I'm like, I feel like a little kid in the little Cinderella
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  slippers and like the toys are Princess dress.
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  But yeah, I think for me it's the holiday and the darkness of
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  it all. Cuz I've just always been super
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  into like horror genre stuff like growing up reading and
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  watching movies and stuff that was kind of my my go to genre
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  and still is. So that's just like what came
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  naturally to me, I guess. Was not bad.
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  It was like a conscious decision when you're making your music
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  initially that you knew you wanted to be darker.
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  So again, we're not. We weren't defining it as dark
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  pop at the time. You were just like, oh, it's
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  Halloween. Yeah, exactly.
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  Or just like, oh, I love, you know, at the time I loved like
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  Melanie Martina. Not that I don't love any of
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  them still, but like Melanie, Martina is Lana Del Rey the
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  neighborhood. Moodier.
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  Moodier Yeah. And I was reading like, you
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  know, James Patterson or weird, like, horror novels.
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  So that's just kind of like what came out.
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  Oh my gosh. And now it's like translating so
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  well into your entire like vibe too.
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  Thank you. And I feel like you do it so,
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  so, so well. Like it feels, obviously it's
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  natural to you, but it also feels like it's something that's
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  like, we were just peeking into your mind, you know?
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  I really love your visuals. So for the ones that you did for
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  Runaway Bride, it's so like, I was just, I was playing it for
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  my roommate Jamika over there and I was like, I love how
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  simple it is and like, it's just like gritty and grainy, you know
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  what I mean? I love shit like that.
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  So so so so so much. Thank you.
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  I really do too. And that was like a huge thing I
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  wanted on the album was for the visuals to be very sleek and
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  simple. Because in the past I've been
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  very like over the top. We're talking about like
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  costumey stuff, like very cost to me, very like, you know, the
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  highest level of like getting glammed and doing all the
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  things. And for this I still wanted it
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  to feel very like sexy and glam, but in a more like sleek, mature
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  way. Absolutely, yeah.
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  It feels like you don't have to do too much either because it's
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  translates so well. You know, it's just sensual.
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  I think that's the best way I could describe it.
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  And then you audition for X Factor.
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  Oh my God. Wait, talk about X Factor.
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  Oh, let me talk about X Factor. First of all, I I would like to
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  thank the people that run The X Factor YouTube channel for never
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  uploading my live audition. Amen.
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  Thank. You no, it was really good.
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  Like I got all I mean, maybe I don't know.
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  I never saw it, but I think I ate because I got yeses like
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  everyone was like yes, except Kelly Rowland.
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  Kelly Rowland, Like she's on my up list.
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  Oh, no. Because tell me why.
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  OK, let me go and get let me get into it.
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  OK, I'm. I'm painting the picture for you
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  here. I'm 1414.
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  I'm like, Mom, I need to audition for The X Factor.
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  I'm literally gonna like, hold my breath until I die.
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  Until you say. Love it and.
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  She's like, OK, let's go do it. Shout out my mom, shout out
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  Luna. She's always supported my
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  dreams. We go to the big cattle call,
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  like in Cow Palace in San Francisco.
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  It's like 60,000 people auditioning.
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  We should. It's insane Someone Like You by
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  Adele was banned to sing because everyone was singing Someone
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  Like You and that of course was the song I had prepared so I had
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  to think fast. Wait, you didn't know you got
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  there? I didn't know.
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  No, they just started telling people no more Someone Like You.
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  We've heard Someone Like You. Too many times.
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  Today, so I switched and I sang Fallen by Alicia Keys, which is
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  like has always been my go to karaoke song.
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  And I made it through. There's like 4 rounds of like
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  auditions before you even get to go on like the stage where it's
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  the first round with all the celebrity judges.
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  So I was just doing that and it's like a 4-5 day process.
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  I made it to the end. They're like cool, you're going
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  to Hollywood. I'm like, wow, I'm literally
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  about to become Hannah Montana. I mean literally.
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  And my family drives down to LA, I go do the live audition.
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  I sing Before He Cheats by Carrie Underwood.
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  Yeah, it's a. Credible.
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  Song, but they didn't understand me.
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  And they all gave me yeses. But then Kelly Rowland just had
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  to say something. She was like, that song's a bit
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  old for you, don't you think? She was like, have like you?
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  I didn't feel the emotion. She never experienced that.
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  I was like, babe, I'm in 7th grade.
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  Yeah, like there aren't many songs that I've experienced.
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  And you're like, I'm an 8th, 7th grader.
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  Like, period. So then I was like, wait, don't
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  say no to me, let me sing you something else.
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  And then I sang Fallen by Alicia Keys, and then she gave me yes.
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  So I actually got all yeses, but it was so dystopian because they
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  had me do an interview saying like, I'm so happy I made it
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  through before I even went on stage.
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  Oh shit, that. Interview that's on YouTube
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  that's like so cringe. That was stage.
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  It was. Stage.
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  It's all fake. Oh my God, you just exposed it.
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  The more you know exposing The X Factor.
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  Exposing The X Factor? No, you honestly just burned a
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  bridge of Kelly Rowland. The X Factor, Kelly.
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  Rowland, I'm calling you out. Oh shit, oh shit.
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  Just kidding, you're such an icon.
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  Yeah, it was a joke. It was a joke.
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  It. Was a.
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  Joke. Don't come for her.
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  Don't come for delulu. OK, Well, it's a good thing that
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  you didn't get through though, because I feel like the way that
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  your your career is going anyways, like do you feel like
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  if The X Factor was like, let's say you took it all the way,
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  right, Yeah. What do you think would have
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  been different? Do you think it would have been
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  better? No, yeah, I'm so happy that I'm
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  a big believer that everything happens the exact way it's
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  supposed to. 100%. I think if we don't think that,
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  then we'll just always spend time like reminiscing and
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  regretting and living in the past.
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  So who knows, Like maybe it could have been cool, maybe it
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  would have been horrible. I personally, I'm happy it
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  didn't happen because I was so young and so nervous and just so
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  not comfortable in myself. Yeah, I was such an insecure and
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  like, I was confident in my vocals.
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  I always have been really confident in my singing, like,
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  and getting on stage and performing.
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  But I was super unconfident in my looks and my personality in
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  like so many other areas of myself that I think at that time
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  and at that age, if somebody would have been like, OK, this
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  is the kind of like artist you're gonna be, I would have
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  been like, yes, chef, and just done it.
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  Absolutely. Cuz then like, honestly, it's
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  hard to find your own artistry at what, 14?
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  You said like you're still figuring out who you are exactly
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  how you're going to figure out like what kind of artist you
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  are, Right. Yeah.
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  So honestly, that makes sense, I think.
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  Do you think if you audition like a little older it would
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  have been different? Maybe you?
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  Dwell on it a lot. How often do you reflect on The
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  X Factor? Very little, OK, but I will say
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  some of the other shows do hit me up to come audition and like
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  come. Out would you do it?
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  I, I don't know, no, maybe I would like American Idol and and
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  the voice and you know, the other ones, they definitely come
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  every season and they're like, hey, and I'm always like.
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  No, really. So you said no to them, but you
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  said yes to delulu. Yeah.
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  Exactly. OK.
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  This is way more fun than that period.
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  But no, I might I who knows. I won't count that out of my
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  potential future. Yeah, I like keeping like
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  options open too. So like, honestly, if it makes
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  sense for wherever you are in life, fuck it.
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  Fuck it. Oh my God.
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  Absolutely. OK, So now we're on this
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  journey. You're doing your music, you're
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  discovering your artistry. You started the Halloween EPS.
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  Did you always know you wanted to lean in this like dark pop
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  direction? Just like, was it just because
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  like this EPS were like something that you felt natural
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  in or did you always have that vision because you said your
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  early influences were like Lana and like Melanie Martinez and
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  they're obviously like more alternative Moody's.
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  Definitely. I mean, I think I was so
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  influenced by like Marina and Melanie Martinez when I was
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  younger. Like it definitely shows in my
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  older music and visuals, but I was just very inspired.
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  Those were like some of the first artists that I was like
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  wow. Cuz like I said, I'd been
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  singing my whole life and like writing separately.
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  Like I loved English. I was always in like the
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  advanced English class and just reading and writing a ton.
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  Not a math girl at. All Oh my God same these.
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  Girl like no no same these unfortunately for me.
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  I mean, you don't need it, it's OK, So what do you need it for?
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  Shit is crazy when you like. Can we swear on this?
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  Fuck yeah. OK, beautiful.
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  I like the other. Not the other day.
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  Literally like a year ago. OK.
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  Bad amount. Coming through divide something
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  and I went to write down the little long division thing and
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  put in the numbers. I was like that is OK.
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  Fucking God I forgot how to fucking do long division.
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  Don't ask me right now. Up a YouTube video for like
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  middle schoolers. And you teach myself, you know,
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  like calculator. Can, but I wanted to just like
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  do. It for like the thrill of it.
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  And then I was like, I can't. Yeah, like I forgot like.
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  OK, wait, could you do it now? No.
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  OK, Divide 64 by 8. Go.
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  Oh, you ate that? You ate that?
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  Yeah. Do you know the nines trick?
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  No. What does it teach us?
• 16:25
  OK. 10 fingers up. 10 fingers up. 10 fingers up.
• 16:28
  Every finger from your left hand to your right is numbered one
• 16:32
  through 10. OK so your left pinky is 1 and
• 16:34
  your. Right.
• 16:34
  I'm already lost, I'm not going to lie.
• 16:36
  Wait, put your hands the way my hands.
• 16:38
  OK, I'm looking. Left pinky is 12345678910 right?
• 16:42
  Yeah 10 OK 9 * 2 So you put your second finger down is 18189
• 16:49
  times 3 Put your third finger down is 20 seven 9 * 436.
• 16:55
  I'm not gonna lie, girl, there's a lot for me.
• 16:57
  I trust you though. Did I know I explained it?
• 17:00
  I'm gonna use the calculator I feared.
• 17:02
  No, you wouldn't explain it. Well, when you did the 18 one, I
• 17:05
  saw it. I see what you mean.
• 17:06
  It's a one. Times 5 and that's 8145.
• 17:10
  There's four on this side and then this is like the space and
• 17:13
  then there's 5. This has become such an
• 17:15
  educational show. I'm loving it.
• 17:17
  I'm living. To the stem tab of TikTok.
• 17:20
  Oh my God, please. I'm sure the algorithm will be
• 17:22
  better for. Yeah.
• 17:24
  Honestly, we're gonna we'll clip that for them, OK?
• 17:27
  But sorry, we got on this fucking math tangent.
• 17:30
  Math Tangent. No, I mean, you're right, it was
• 17:32
  very important. Kids, please learn your math.
• 17:33
  Please like, actually stop using chachi BT it's scary, yeah.
• 17:37
  Just just do the math. Just do the math.
• 17:38
  You have the little nine, trip it up.
• 17:40
  There you go. But yeah, I, I knew I always
• 17:44
  wanted to have this sort of darker aesthetic.
• 17:46
  And it's not even something that I like really planned super hard
• 17:51
  to have. It was more like I just started
• 17:54
  making things I liked. And I was working with my
• 17:56
  brother a lot at the time. So my brother was producing
• 17:58
  almost everything. And we were like babies.
• 18:00
  Like we were like 17 and 19. So we just started making stuff
• 18:04
  we loved. And I was definitely influenced
• 18:06
  by my musical influences, but I was also so influenced by like
• 18:10
  the depressed humbler girl. Like I was the target demo for
• 18:14
  that and. You're getting content for them.
• 18:17
  Like actually though, I grew up like literally obsessed with
• 18:21
  Tumblr, constantly blogging. The first time I ever had
• 18:23
  something go like, viral was on Tumblr.
• 18:25
  Like I thought I was so. Not the OG viral.
• 18:29
  That's crazy. I went to school the next day.
• 18:30
  Like, yeah, I. Had like a million notes my.
• 18:31
  Post Yeah 100,000 Notes. Oh, you're hot shit now?
• 18:37
  But yeah. The Tumblr girlies were eating
• 18:39
  it up. What was the post?
• 18:40
  It was literally me in fishnets. Like it I was laying on a bed so
• 18:44
  my legs were up in the air and I was taking a picture of my
• 18:47
  boots. Honestly they weren't that
• 18:48
  different than these and like ripped up fishnets and a lighter
• 18:51
  and sig in my finger like in my hand.
• 18:53
  Oh my God, 2014 in. My head.
• 18:55
  And then my mom grounded me and got mad at me because she was
• 18:59
  like, why the fuck do you have a cigarette?
• 19:00
  And I had to be like, Oh my God, it was just a prop.
• 19:03
  It was a prop. It wasn't a.
• 19:04
  Prop Oh shit, Luna. Luna.
• 19:07
  Does she know now? Is this how we're finding out?
• 19:09
  She definitely does. One thing about my mom is no
• 19:11
  matter how old I get, she's gonna leave her commentary.
• 19:14
  Like I just got this tattoo on tour and she I didn't tell her
• 19:19
  obviously I wasn't with her. And one day I just got a text
• 19:21
  from her and it's just a picture zoomed in on my hand and it
• 19:25
  just. She clocked what the.
• 19:26
  Fuck I'm like bro. She clocked it.
• 19:29
  She clocked. Oh my God.
• 19:30
  I'm scared for her feedback on this show.
• 19:32
  She's gonna love it. Luna.
• 19:33
  What do we think so far? Luna, let us know your comments.
• 19:36
  We actually or maybe OK, I need to tell you about your music.
• 19:41
  So basically I come from a place where I'm like just naturally
• 19:45
  like very much like lover girl, like very like whatever, like
• 19:48
  pink women's gold, whatever romantic whatever you will no
• 19:51
  one make eye contact with me right now.
• 19:53
  Please. You know who you are.
• 19:55
  No one look at me. So when I was originally doing a
• 19:57
  deep dive on your music, you know, it's just so like, I want
• 20:01
  to see like revenge pop, like very like scorn pop or whatever,
• 20:05
  so. When we began working on this
• 20:07
  episode, I was like, love this, but I'm not really there.
• 20:11
  But like as we progressed, I got a little scorned.
• 20:14
  So then I was like, oh, I'm really going to.
• 20:16
  I'm really going to dive into this now.
• 20:17
  I'm really feeling it. That's the time.
• 20:19
  You're making the music for the girlies, so thank you so much.
• 20:22
  Of course. Like I love what you said.
• 20:25
  Thank you so much. No you, I feel seen, but I love
• 20:28
  what you said about like how making a song is like the final
• 20:32
  boss for you and this is how you can like emotionally move on and
• 20:34
  like let yourself and be done with that situation.
• 20:38
  I feel the same way when I'm making things because I like to
• 20:40
  take like my pain and suffering and I always tell people I'm
• 20:43
  like, it's always worth it if you create something cool out of
• 20:46
  it. So even it sucks, you know what
• 20:48
  I mean? It's like if we get something
• 20:49
  out of it then fuck it. Exactly.
• 20:52
  Like to me that honestly makes the chaos and like the horrible
• 20:56
  things. So it's such a higher high than
• 20:59
  the low low because it's like afterwards you get this
• 21:01
  insanely, this thing that you're so proud of that you're like, I
• 21:04
  only have this because you fucked me over.
• 21:06
  So like, I hate you but kind of thing.
• 21:08
  Oh my God, we know. I feel so seen 'cause it's
• 21:10
  exactly how I feel it's like. It's closure.
• 21:13
  I don't believe in closure. There's a hot really.
• 21:16
  Closure is some. Wait, actually I don't believe
• 21:18
  in closure either. It's.
• 21:19
  Bullshit. You just gotta move on.
• 21:21
  You just. Gotta go.
• 21:21
  Like, I don't know why people think there will be some last,
• 21:24
  OK, maybe other people are like, healthier than me, but this has
• 21:27
  never been my experience. OK.
• 21:29
  Like, what? Conversation is gonna ensue
• 21:32
  after things and especially if they end like badly.
• 21:35
  Like one person did the other wrong and one person is like
• 21:38
  scorned and hurt. At that point, like, why even
• 21:40
  talk? Why talk?
• 21:41
  Why talk? Bye.
• 21:42
  Yes. Move on.
• 21:43
  What is there to say and? Here's the thing, do whatever
• 21:46
  you want if you know what you're getting yourself into, but don't
• 21:49
  bullshit yourself. Like if you're going to go hang
• 21:51
  out with your ex at 1:00 AM, go, you know, go get it.
• 21:54
  Do it. Go get that shit.
• 21:56
  But don't sit there like, Oh yeah, we're going to talk and
• 21:57
  have closure. No.
• 21:59
  No, I, I, I'm right there. I literally just tweeted, not
• 22:02
  tweeted. I threaded the little Twitter
• 22:04
  for Instagram, whatever. I literally was like closure is
• 22:06
  a scam, just move on. Just move on.
• 22:08
  Just move on and the the person that hurt you is not going to
• 22:10
  tell you any arrangement of words that are going to change
• 22:13
  what they did to you and it's not going to make you feel any
• 22:16
  better. It really isn't because you
• 22:17
  think having that conversation or getting that closure will
• 22:20
  help you move on. And honestly, maybe we're not
• 22:22
  healed or evolved at all, but I'm a big fan of just like I'm
• 22:26
  good to go. Yeah, we talked about ghosting.
• 22:29
  You said you're a fan of ghosting.
• 22:31
  Where? Where we at with ghosting?
• 22:32
  I'm like 2 okay. I used to be a fan of ghosting
• 22:35
  because I used to be really non confrontational.
• 22:38
  I was really scared to confront things that would bother me.
• 22:42
  So I would let like resentment build up and then I would just
• 22:44
  be like bye. And then I realized once like my
• 22:47
  frontal lobe finished developing, I was like, that's a
• 22:50
  really bad personality trait. Like that's a very villainous
• 22:52
  personality trait because I never tell the other person that
• 22:55
  I'm getting more and more like resentful towards them.
• 22:58
  And then I just drop them. Like that's not nice.
• 23:00
  So now. I'm trying to.
• 23:03
  I'm literally in my healing era. You are you're like, you're
• 23:06
  really healing me because I feel like my frontal lobe has been
• 23:09
  developed. But I'm a huge fan of just like
• 23:12
  dipping like I just. I mean, it depends on the
• 23:15
  situation, right? Like if you're like a random and
• 23:17
  we went on a date and you're like blowing me up, like bye,
• 23:20
  I'll literally fuck you. But if you're like, you know,
• 23:23
  someone that didn't necessarily do something wrong, but you're
• 23:26
  just like, it's not the right fit and you're like a nice
• 23:29
  person. I'll be like, hey, so.
• 23:34
  Me again. Me again.
• 23:34
  Knock. Knock.
• 23:36
  Sorry Tiva, your hours are up. But yeah, I I think I used to
• 23:41
  ghost like way more frequently. Yeah.
• 23:44
  I also just like not dating like I actually am done.
• 23:48
  Wait, what happened? I'm just done are.
• 23:50
  We going to hear about it on this next project.
• 23:51
  Yeah, OK. Like I just think everyone is so
• 23:55
  scary and I'm so freaked out. Totally.
• 23:58
  And I just don't want any of. It.
• 23:59
  Oh, my gosh. Wait, have you been dating in LA
• 24:02
  because you live in LA? Yeah.
• 24:03
  How's that for you? I think it's nightmarish to say
• 24:08
  the least. I mean I don't know, maybe it's
• 24:10
  just the circles I'm in, but I feel like.
• 24:14
  Wait, do you date like musicians?
• 24:15
  Yeah, so. How's that tell me everything?
• 24:18
  It's horrific, like as you could imagine.
• 24:20
  As I can imagine. It's really not great.
• 24:22
  I mean, I know how insane I am as a musician.
• 24:25
  And then you take like a, a man who is a musician and like has
• 24:31
  has like a blown up head and, you know, thinks that he's like
• 24:34
  God's gift to the earth and it's just never a good time.
• 24:37
  Here's what I've learned. I'm really attracted to musical
• 24:40
  talent. So I always go for guys who are
• 24:42
  musical because that's such a big part of my life.
• 24:45
  I'm like, I almost feel like I could never connect with you on
• 24:47
  like the deepest level if you're not musical at all.
• 24:50
  But then I'm like, wait, but you want to be like a Princess and
• 24:54
  the main character and like, I need to be that too.
• 24:57
  So. I have this conversation with so
• 24:59
  many people and they say exactly that, where they're like,
• 25:01
  especially if you're an artist, it's like, well, I'm the star.
• 25:03
  And it feels like it's like now you're competing, now it's
• 25:05
  clashing egos and stuff like that.
• 25:07
  And then? Men.
• 25:08
  Well, like not all men. Sorry, I'm not making a sweeping
• 25:10
  generalization. I am all men go.
• 25:12
  Like all men that I've ever experienced that do music like
• 25:16
  they hate, if you ever do better than them, they start to hate
• 25:19
  you. They become your biggest.
• 25:21
  OP 100% they resent you. They resent you.
• 25:24
  And they make like little slight comments like.
• 25:26
  Yes, it's insane. I'm like wait so.
• 25:28
  Isn't that crazy? And it's like, why is that?
• 25:30
  I don't know, I'm like, do I need to date like a finance bro?
• 25:33
  Like someone that will. Pay my taxes.
• 25:35
  Yes, but I can't. Yeah.
• 25:37
  So I'm just out of the game right now.
• 25:39
  Okay, okay, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair.
• 25:41
  You've had your experiences and we're going to hear all about
• 25:44
  it. Yeah, okay, before we jump into
• 25:46
  the next era, your new music, and I'm so excited to talk about
• 25:49
  it, we need to talk about Pretty Evil.
• 25:51
  So tell us about Pretty Evil, the album.
• 25:54
  It is my second album. I'm really proud of it.
• 25:58
  It's definitely like my proudest.
• 26:00
  I think most work I've ever made.
• 26:02
  Thank you so much. That's really sweet.
• 26:04
  I it's really special to me because I didn't get to tour my
• 26:07
  first album at all because it was like height of COVID.
• 26:10
  So I think even getting to like play this album live and like
• 26:14
  tour it has been has added like a whole new layer that I've
• 26:17
  never gotten to experience before.
• 26:19
  So that's made it even more special.
• 26:21
  But honestly, pretty Evil is like a memoir to the most like
• 26:27
  real adult relationship I've ever had.
• 26:30
  I was with a man for 3 1/2 years.
• 26:32
  Like we lived together, had animals together, the whole bit.
• 26:35
  And it was definitely I met him when I was 21.
• 26:38
  Now I'm I just turned 27. So like, it was definitely a big
• 26:41
  chunk of my early 20s that like shaped me.
• 26:43
  Oh yeah, your formative years for sure.
• 26:45
  And he was a bit old. I mean, not like in a bad way.
• 26:48
  He was just five years older than me.
• 26:49
  So he was in like a different place than I was.
• 26:51
  And he had already, he had like serious girlfriends before me
• 26:54
  that he lived with and all this stuff.
• 26:56
  So the whole experience was just crazy.
• 26:59
  And I feel like the album is really just the like,
• 27:02
  memorialization of that insanely fucked up shit.
• 27:06
  That could be such a beautiful thing though, you know, to like
• 27:08
  giving it that life and putting it in a poetic way and spinning
• 27:11
  it to make it music, you know. And I kind of like that, I think
• 27:16
  with any relationship in general, Like, I hate saying
• 27:19
  this because I always come back to this quote where it's like,
• 27:21
  you know, Lord's songwriter in the dark.
• 27:22
  Have you heard that one? It's exactly that.
• 27:24
  Like, if you're going to be like with someone who's like,
• 27:26
  creative, they're probably going to immortalize you, you know,
• 27:29
  for better or worse. Yeah.
• 27:31
  So like act accordingly. You don't want a bad song
• 27:35
  written about you. Don't give me a reason to diss.
• 27:38
  Track, yeah. Don't become, don't become a
• 27:41
  Kelly Rolling op for at least. OK.
• 27:44
  Well, we're going to we're going to make sure that moving
• 27:46
  forward, you know, it's it's going to be better.
• 27:49
  Yeah. I can't.
• 27:50
  I can't promise anything for no man, actually.
• 27:53
  I know there's no hope, but it's OK.
• 27:55
  All of the crazy evil men give me all my songwriting fuel and I
• 28:00
  absorb their powers and get to higher levels of songwriting.
• 28:04
  I'm so happy you said that. I want to ask you, do you feel
• 28:07
  like, do you ever feel like you're the villain?
• 28:10
  Yes, definitely. OK, same.
• 28:11
  I've definitely been the. Villain.
• 28:12
  I want to be the villain. Oh, you want to be the?
• 28:14
  Villain. Oh, absolutely.
• 28:16
  There are times where I yeah, absolutely.
• 28:18
  Yeah, I want to be the villain. I just feel like, oh, this is so
• 28:21
  immature of me, and I will acknowledge this is just like,
• 28:23
  I'd rather hurt than get hurt, so you know what I mean?
• 28:26
  No. I think that's super valid.
• 28:28
  I think that's like a defense mechanism if anything.
• 28:31
  That's not even like evil inherently.
• 28:32
  That's totally I'm the victim actually, now that you're saying
• 28:35
  it. You are the victim.
• 28:36
  You're just trying to protect yourself and everyone jealous of
• 28:39
  you. Thank you you spilled Oh my God
• 28:41
  clock it okay we're clipping that thank you I love that okay
• 28:46
  well do you feel like okay, I want to be the villain.
• 28:49
  Do you feel like you want to be the villain or you just like it
• 28:52
  just happens sometimes? It just happens sometimes.
• 28:54
  I think like I've always been really honest in my music about
• 28:59
  me not always being the victim because none of us ever are
• 29:01
  like. You know, Oh my God, yes.
• 29:02
  We all have our toxic. I love self-awareness.
• 29:05
  Yeah, yes, I'm definitely overly self.
• 29:08
  Aware. No, that's good.
• 29:09
  That's what makes good. Lyrics I have a fear that I'm
• 29:11
  like actually really not self aware and that's just my
• 29:14
  perception of myself, but I'm like perceived not that way.
• 29:17
  So then that makes me think OK well I definitely I'm self aware
• 29:20
  because no not self aware person would have that fear.
• 29:23
  That's my logic. Like that was such a journey.
• 29:25
  I actually I understood all of that.
• 29:27
  I understood. Gymnastic, yes.
• 29:29
  You got me. I was there with you.
• 29:30
  That's. Virgo logic A. 100% that's how I
• 29:32
  feel too because I think I'm super self aware but I'm like
• 29:35
  maybe I'm also just not but I feel like I.
• 29:37
  But you wouldn't think like like a crazy person wouldn't.
• 29:42
  I hate when motherfuckers make me feel crazy.
• 29:44
  I think that's my number one thing.
• 29:45
  I hate when people make me feel crazy or they like ask like me,
• 29:47
  because then I also get I always overthink it right.
• 29:49
  I'm like, maybe I didn't say or do that, but I have like a
• 29:51
  perfect memory. So I'm just like I do.
• 29:54
  Do you feel like a good memory? I would.
• 29:56
  I have a really really really crazy good memory.
• 29:59
  Whoa, that's a really good skill to have because I have a
• 30:01
  horrific memory and like. I thought it was a Virgo thing.
• 30:05
  OK, so with Pretty Evil, this was also your first headlining
• 30:08
  tour too. How exciting.
• 30:09
  Tell us about that. You just got off of it.
• 30:11
  Yeah, a couple weeks ago it was literally like the best
• 30:14
  experience of my life. I felt like I was on drugs every
• 30:18
  single night because the amount of just like happiness and love
• 30:22
  and adrenaline that was in my heart was crazy.
• 30:24
  I I've opened for people, which has been so fun and like
• 30:28
  literally is what I think got me prepared to even do a headliner.
• 30:32
  I don't, I don't think it would have been the same headliner if
• 30:34
  I hadn't done the opening slots I'd done beforehand.
• 30:37
  So I'm so grateful for that. But going as a headliner, it's
• 30:40
  just like a different thing entirely.
• 30:43
  It's not the same. It's like getting to actually
• 30:45
  look out into the crowd and see your fans there and they're like
• 30:49
  singing your words is a really indescribable.
• 30:51
  Game for you? They bought tickets for you.
• 30:53
  Yeah, like made clothes and did their nails with pretty evil.
• 30:56
  Like Oh my God, so many people brought me La Boo boos.
• 30:59
  Like I was like, yes. Oh my God, I was cute.
• 31:02
  But yeah, just so cute. And then my favorite thing ever
• 31:04
  about the tour was so many people became friends.
• 31:07
  Like people that didn't know each other or were like online
• 31:10
  friends met at the shows and like became besties.
• 31:12
  You're like creating connections for people.
• 31:14
  It feels like it's a safe space for, like, very misunderstood,
• 31:19
  like, teens and 20s. Like actually I feel like there
• 31:21
  was a mix of like 13 to maybe like, you know, late 20s.
• 31:25
  And it just felt like a, a really awesome space for like,
• 31:28
  everyone to be really nice to each other and just, like, enjoy
• 31:30
  music. Yeah.
• 31:31
  So I'm really grateful for that. But yeah, it was so fucking fun.
• 31:34
  I had the time of my life. And you know, you mentioned
• 31:36
  before that you feel like your fans have like, grown up with
• 31:38
  you too, Like they've matured with you.
• 31:40
  They've been with you on their own journey and your journey as
• 31:42
  an artist Well tour was great and you're about to do it all
• 31:46
  over again. Yes, I'm so excited.
• 31:49
  I'm going back out again in January to February.
• 31:52
  I I missed a lot of cities on the first run.
• 31:55
  I didn't hit the South. I didn't hit like some pretty
• 31:58
  pivotal places. So I'm really excited to go and
• 32:01
  get to put on a show for all those people.
• 32:02
  Too. Oh my gosh, that's so that's
• 32:04
  honestly really fun. Especially like, do you think
• 32:06
  where you are in your career, like you just want to be touring
• 32:08
  and continuing to tour? Definitely.
• 32:11
  You know, before you mentioned this in a different interview I
• 32:14
  was watching where you talked about when you made music, you
• 32:16
  never even thought about the live aspect of it.
• 32:18
  So with this new project, project that you have coming
• 32:20
  out, like are you thinking about how it's going to be performed
• 32:22
  live? Are you thinking about like
• 32:24
  what's going to be different when you're doing the tour with
• 32:26
  it? Because this upcoming leg,
• 32:27
  you're going to be doing a mix of this new album and pretty
• 32:30
  evil. Yes, yeah, I definitely, I'm
• 32:33
  thinking about the live aspects so much now.
• 32:36
  That has been such an eye opening thing too.
• 32:38
  And I really think that, like, I was just so new to touring and
• 32:43
  started it so late in my career just because of COVID.
• 32:46
  And like when I started dropping music and all of that, and by
• 32:49
  the time COVID had ended, I had like a whole new team and it was
• 32:52
  just a mess. I got dropped from my old
• 32:54
  booking agent. They didn't even tell me.
• 32:56
  Like I just went on the website and found out I was dropped.
• 32:58
  Shut the hell. It was crazy.
• 32:59
  Did you reach out to them and say anything?
• 33:01
  No. Oh, really?
• 33:02
  Like a little passive thing or you're just like, oh, OK.
• 33:05
  I was just like, oh OK. Like there was nothing to say.
• 33:07
  They literally dropped me. I mean, I knew they were going
• 33:10
  to anyway. They didn't care about We're not
• 33:12
  like we. Just talked about this walking
• 33:14
  around before we walked into this.
• 33:16
  Yeah, yes. Oh my God.
• 33:18
  We'll get into it off camera. But yeah, I I got finally into
• 33:22
  touring and it made me just see music in a really different way.
• 33:26
  Like I was like, oh, I actually have multiple songs where in the
• 33:29
  studio I can record them because obviously recording in the
• 33:32
  studio is so different. But then live it like wasn't
• 33:34
  translating or figuring out how to make things translate better
• 33:38
  live and change them around for live was like a fun challenge.
• 33:41
  But now I definitely am making songs with like the aspect of
• 33:45
  how is this going to sound live already in my head.
• 33:48
  So with Pretty Evil and this new project, you've mentioned this
• 33:51
  before, but you said that you felt like Pretty Evil was a good
• 33:53
  mix of your old sound, your original sound and heading in
• 33:57
  the direction that you want to start going in.
• 33:59
  So with this new project of coming out, do you want to can
• 34:01
  we talk about that project? Let's talk about it.
• 34:03
  Let's get into it. So this new project, you're
• 34:06
  going in a different direction. Before you were saying you're
• 34:08
  writing from a place of feeling like darker, definitely, but now
• 34:13
  you're living life a little differently, you're a little
• 34:15
  more open minded. What's this new Sonic direction
• 34:17
  we're going in? The Sonic direction is a lot
• 34:20
  more I would say it's a lot less dark pop.
• 34:24
  It's still dark. It still has like the
• 34:25
  melancholic vibes. It's still is like me at its
• 34:29
  core, but it's definitely less Halloween, less dark pop and a
• 34:33
  bit more synth pop and. Wait, yeah, I'm super excited.
• 34:37
  I less than pop you guys. Yeah.
• 34:38
  OK, I'm so happy. Yeah.
• 34:39
  Some of my biggest influences were like Daft Punk, like Kid, a
• 34:43
  album by Radiohead and then like Troy Savant's album with Rush on
• 34:49
  it. I I cannot.
• 34:50
  Something to give each other. Thank you.
• 34:51
  Yes, Like so very like different references, but I never like try
• 34:56
  to go too, too hard on anyone reference.
• 34:58
  I like to kind of just think of a world of music that I'm like
• 35:01
  this music could live in this other world of music.
• 35:03
  But yeah, it's definitely a little more synth pop.
• 35:06
  And what's the biggest change on it I think is not even
• 35:09
  sonically, but more lyrically. I think I'm really more known
• 35:13
  for writing about toxic relationships and like you were
• 35:16
  kind of saying, revenge. Pop and like.
• 35:18
  Scorned girl pop, sad girl pop, which it is still all of that,
• 35:23
  still that it's exactly the same, but it's definitely has
• 35:28
  like different undertones. This album is a lot more geared
• 35:30
  towards my feelings on my 20s, sort of a reflection piece I
• 35:36
  guess. And it's a lot about the
• 35:37
  industry, about the pornification of women in the
• 35:40
  industry, about the sexualization and like, and, you
• 35:44
  know, all of these sort of experiences I've had coming into
• 35:47
  this industry as like a teenager and a minor and growing up in it
• 35:51
  and. Cuz you've been in there for
• 35:51
  like 10 years now. Oh yeah, and I've seen some
• 35:54
  shit. So I'm sure I felt like it was
• 35:56
  just the right moment and the right time to make a project.
• 35:59
  Kind of like trying to reflect on those experiences without it
• 36:02
  being too in your face and obvious.
• 36:04
  So the whole point of it is to be like sexy and about sex, but
• 36:08
  also at the same time a little bit uncomfortable and taboo
• 36:13
  because that's really how it can feel being a woman in music
• 36:16
  sometimes. Like you're supposed to be sexy
• 36:18
  and like hot and everyone's supposed to love you.
• 36:20
  But also like on the on the other side of it, it's like, oh,
• 36:25
  my personal trainer probably shouldn't have touched me like
• 36:27
  that. And then you go tell the label
• 36:29
  and they're like, oh, we don't really give a fuck.
• 36:30
  Like you need to keep. Working.
• 36:31
  Yeah, there's no HR there. Yeah, there's no HR and
• 36:33
  everything is geared away from artists rather than to protect
• 36:37
  them, so. I think it's it's an insidious
• 36:40
  industry, I think entertainment in general.
• 36:42
  And then I think with everything you're describing, it just
• 36:44
  sounds like tapping into exploitation in general.
• 36:47
  Just as an artist, as a woman in industry in LA, that's crazy.
• 36:51
  So it feels like I'm so curious about like the direction that
• 36:55
  it's heading in. So would you say Die, the song
• 36:58
  that you released with Ella Bo is a good like indicator of what
• 37:01
  we can expect with it? No, actually I think it's a
• 37:04
  total Sonic departure from Die Die I love because it's like
• 37:08
  very special to my heart, because it feels very me and
• 37:11
  Ella to our core. Ella and I have been working
• 37:13
  together for years. This is our first like official
• 37:15
  collab, but Ella produced a a lot of my songs.
• 37:19
  Leech Doll face, Oh my God, I can't think Valentine.
• 37:24
  So we've been working together since like 2022.
• 37:26
  So we both wanted to do something that felt really true
• 37:29
  to like our roots, which I think is that core like dark pop
• 37:33
  anthem, which is exactly what die feels like to me.
• 37:36
  The new project will be a lot more like, I don't know, to me
• 37:41
  the new project feels like it's snowing and you're like kind of
• 37:44
  outside staring up at snow falling down at you at night.
• 37:47
  Oh, interesting. Kind of like a a cold winter
• 37:50
  night. Not as much as like.
• 37:51
  More reflective too, because I feel like Die in the visual for
• 37:54
  Die was very horror themed, you know?
• 37:56
  Do you feel like that was a bridge from leaving the pretty
• 37:58
  evil era going into this next? One, definitely.
• 38:01
  Yeah, it was, it was perfect timing.
• 38:03
  We both were like trying to release it at the same time.
• 38:06
  And I knew I wanted like one thing to kind of bridge the gap
• 38:09
  between the two. Projects Girl is a Halloween
• 38:11
  Bob. Exactly like it's Halloween
• 38:13
  season had to put out. I didn't do a whole Halloween EP
• 38:16
  this year, but Halloween song. Well, we have something better
• 38:18
  coming anyways, yes. So wait, can you talk about this
• 38:22
  project? You mentioned in a previous
• 38:23
  interview I was watching that you said it was 90% done.
• 38:26
  You said the title track was done, so where?
• 38:29
  Where are we getting this album? What can we expect with it?
• 38:31
  So the the project is called Sex Tapes and the title track is
• 38:35
  done. I actually just yesterday
• 38:38
  finished making the closing track, so I'm so excited about
• 38:41
  that. I was in the studio for like 10
• 38:42
  hours yesterday writing it and finishing it.
• 38:45
  And yeah, it's basically gonna be this like, sexy, melancholy,
• 38:50
  sort of sad anthemic project that has these like face value
• 38:56
  topics like sex tapes. The the tagline is like,
• 39:00
  couldn't stay in love forever. That's OK.
• 39:02
  I only need your touch. And when I want to fuck, then I
• 39:05
  just watch our sex tapes. So it's like at face value, it's
• 39:07
  like, oh, OK, You're like reminiscing on the past
• 39:11
  relationship. But really what it means to me
• 39:13
  is more of like, I don't miss all of the crazy things I've
• 39:16
  been through. But it's sort of like that
• 39:18
  addiction to the dopamine of like, oh, something is doing
• 39:21
  well or like people are telling good job.
• 39:23
  And it's almost like you get addicted to this validation and
• 39:27
  it's kind of just like a commentary on all of that.
• 39:30
  I. Feel like you're such a visual
• 39:31
  artist, and obviously all of your previous work that you've
• 39:34
  done leaned super dark, right? What's the visual difference
• 39:37
  that you want to go into this direction?
• 39:38
  Because in that other interview I was watching, you're saying
• 39:40
  you're figuring out the visual identity for this next project.
• 39:42
  Yeah. What do you think is going to be
• 39:44
  different? I think it's going to be, it's
• 39:47
  gonna be definitely a visual departure too.
• 39:50
  I have like sort of built the aesthetic world for it.
• 39:54
  I don't want to reveal like too, too much, but it's definitely
• 39:56
  gonna get different than everything that was on Pretty
• 39:59
  Evil. That was my main goal is to like
• 40:01
  have it be in a completely different universe than Pretty
• 40:03
  Evil. Like the two projects do not
• 40:06
  coexist in my mind. They're like their own
• 40:08
  identities. So I'm just gonna, I'm just
• 40:10
  gonna switch it off a little bit.
• 40:12
  I'm so excited for that because I feel like you are so good at
• 40:15
  world building and taking us into like, like I said, I think
• 40:18
  I mentioned earlier, I was like, I feel like we're peeping into
• 40:20
  your mind, you know, And I like that because I'm so nosy.
• 40:23
  And I was actually, I was talking about because my
• 40:25
  roommate Jamiko's and he's an artist and I was telling him I
• 40:27
  was like what I love about lyrics and what I love about
• 40:29
  artists is like when they take us there and they get really,
• 40:32
  really intimate with it because I want to know everything.
• 40:34
  Like I don't want anything spared.
• 40:35
  And I love how you write and I love how you present it because
• 40:38
  it feels like I'm in your journal, you know?
• 40:40
  And I'm like being a little nosy and like picking it apart.
• 40:42
  Thank you. I live for the nosy, the nosy
• 40:44
  people, because. That's me.
• 40:46
  Too like I'm the this bitch alive.
• 40:48
  Oh hell yeah. Like let me tell me everything.
• 40:50
  Like we just met. Like literally tell me like why
• 40:53
  did your uncle go to jail? Let's.
• 40:54
  Stop it. Really.
• 40:55
  Let's get into it. I I think that is like my goal
• 40:58
  too, is to make songs that are very real to me.
• 41:02
  I have, I just don't have shame. Like, I just don't care if I
• 41:04
  embarrass myself in a song or like, talk about being, you
• 41:07
  know, I love that obsessed with another girl or whatever it is.
• 41:10
  Yeah. Like you just have to have no
• 41:11
  shame when you're an. Artist, Oh my God, I have so
• 41:14
  many things I read about, like being obsessed with another
• 41:16
  girl. Like, I don't know, it's just
• 41:17
  like a running thing for me. It's a running thing for me.
• 41:19
  It's becoming a running thing for me too, because I have a
• 41:22
  song called Valentine on Pretty Evil.
• 41:24
  And then now in this new project, there's also one.
• 41:27
  So I'm like, wait, what's? Like, wait, we gotta unpack
• 41:30
  this. We.
• 41:30
  Should talk about that. Like do we need therapy?
• 41:32
  Are you in therapy? I'm in therapy.
• 41:34
  I love that. Yeah, Yeah.
• 41:36
  I mean, yes, I feel like it's not really doing anything.
• 41:39
  I feel like he's like just like a bestie that I just ran to.
• 41:43
  He validates the hell out of me, though, which I love.
• 41:45
  Love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
• 41:46
  I'm going to unpack the girl thing, though.
• 41:48
  I don't think I've ever mentioned that, yeah.
• 41:50
  Cuz I talk about it. Should we Should we do therapy
• 41:52
  right now? Let's do.
• 41:53
  Therapy right now let's talk about what's.
• 41:54
  Wrong with us. I'm just like a super jealous
• 41:57
  person, you know what I mean? You know, like, do you feel like
• 42:00
  you're a jealous? Person Oh yeah, super like
• 42:02
  really and I get jealous for I I get like sad jealous to where?
• 42:08
  But also I never get jealous until I I'm given a reason to be
• 42:11
  jealous. Like I won't start off in a
• 42:13
  relationship just automatically jealous and being crazy, but the
• 42:16
  second I see a reason to be I go off the fucking rails.
• 42:21
  Oh my God, I feel like I'm literally bat shit, like just in
• 42:23
  everything I do, I get super obsessive.
• 42:25
  I get like super like, like what's it called?
• 42:27
  I get like tunnel vision about things, you know?
• 42:29
  And then I also feel like if there's ever like this is a
• 42:32
  weird thing, I would love to unpack it actually on the show.
• 42:34
  So basically it's like I have this really weird competitive
• 42:36
  thing with girls. I don't know why.
• 42:39
  I don't know why, but I'm super competitive girls.
• 42:43
  Like I don't see men as competition.
• 42:44
  Men are not my competition. Like they're whatever, you know,
• 42:46
  I mean, they're just men, but girls specifically, I'm just
• 42:49
  like, how can I compete with that, you know, because they're
• 42:51
  so ethereal and goddessy and like beautiful and like
• 42:53
  everything, you know? So I feel like, I'm like, I feel
• 42:56
  like I look at women where I'm like enemy, but I'm like, but
• 42:59
  not an enemy, you know what I mean?
• 43:00
  Like. Is it like any woman or more
• 43:02
  like women that like have someone that you have feeling
• 43:06
  like what's like this, the context?
• 43:09
  I guess it's like women in positions that I feel like I
• 43:12
  should be in. That's like, so understandable,
• 43:15
  right? Yeah, yeah, I get that.
• 43:17
  I think jealousy is like such a normal human emotion.
• 43:20
  People like taboo it and make you sound like you're a bad guy
• 43:23
  for experiencing it. But like, we all experience it.
• 43:26
  Yeah, I've been, I mean, I have a stalking routine till this
• 43:29
  day. Like me and my ex broke up a
• 43:31
  year and a half ago. I still check up.
• 43:32
  I'm like, hey, I'll check up on the girlies.
• 43:34
  Be like, hey, you guys still talk to each other like I don't
• 43:37
  know. Oh my God, you're kidding for me
• 43:38
  if I'm dunzies, No, you don't exist me anymore.
• 43:41
  See like I will make like you not exist to me from your
• 43:44
  perception. Because I want to.
• 43:46
  Win, but yeah, like I'm actually still obsessed and insane
• 43:50
  forever. Until the end.
• 43:52
  Oh really? Oh shit.
• 43:53
  I mean, are they about to find out watching the show?
• 43:55
  Do you think they're going to watch?
• 43:57
  I don't know honestly my ex might watch this he.
• 43:59
  Really. Sometimes.
• 44:00
  Watches myself. Hi, miss you.
• 44:02
  Just kidding. I don't know.
• 44:04
  Just kidding. I did.
• 44:07
  Oh God. No, but like he if you're
• 44:10
  watching this, he cheated on me. And so that girl I got so
• 44:14
  obsessed with, like no way. I literally wanted to be her.
• 44:17
  I would look at her Instagram every single day, like watch
• 44:20
  her. And then I like godify those
• 44:23
  girls too. Like I look at her.
• 44:24
  I'm like, you're the prettiest girl I've ever seen.
• 44:26
  You're so much prettier than me. You're better than me in every
• 44:28
  way. Like step on me, mommy.
• 44:30
  And that just becomes like my view of them until you get out
• 44:34
  of the woods of the situation. Now I'm like, OK, you're just
• 44:36
  like a person like everyone else.
• 44:38
  That is so I feel like I'm oppo. I feel like when I make them an
• 44:41
  enemy to me, I'm like, I'm better than you, I'm dated up,
• 44:43
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, that's the way.
• 44:45
  I don't know, just. Like I'm just like a simp.
• 44:46
  Like I, I just get sad. I'm like Oh my God, like you
• 44:50
  wanted her instead of me. It must be because she's better
• 44:53
  than me. I like, hate that so much.
• 44:55
  I love it because I feel like, yeah, I get that, but it's also
• 44:57
  like, that's so devastating. It's a hard place to be when
• 45:01
  you're in it, but then like you get out of it and you're like,
• 45:03
  girl, stand the fuck up like. What were you doing?
• 45:06
  No, Oh my God, when you're in it, it's like nothing bad so.
• 45:08
  Rough, like so rough you look back at like times I will think
• 45:13
  back and like thank God I can't remember anything ever because
• 45:16
  honestly if I could remember half the shit I've said and done
• 45:18
  over a man I would probably never sleep.
• 45:21
  Oh my God, I'm the most embarrassing when it comes to
• 45:23
  men. It's so fucking embarrassing,
• 45:24
  like. The embarrassing thing is the
• 45:27
  men that is the man because it's like why am I acting so crazy
• 45:31
  over this guy? Like who is this?
• 45:33
  This is just some guy that. Appeared in my house, yes.
• 45:36
  Who is this man? Like I fully cried.
• 45:39
  Like cried like cried isn't even the right word.
• 45:41
  Sobbed on my fucking hands and knees like snot coming out of my
• 45:45
  nose, my whole body sweating over a man that had his own
• 45:49
  first name tattooed in comic sans font on his stomach like
• 45:54
  this and and then also had butt sex tatted on his arm.
• 46:00
  I was I was retching. I threw up from crying so hard
• 46:04
  like I actually thought I was going to die.
• 46:07
  Like I have alopecia. This is not a joke.
• 46:09
  I have alopecia. He stressed me out so bad that
• 46:12
  my hair fell out and now I have like little short hairs that are
• 46:15
  growing back. It's really cute from a man that
• 46:17
  has his own first name tattooed on his stomach.
• 46:20
  Huge huge. It's like a big ass stomach tat.
• 46:24
  Oh God, it don't end. Yeah.
• 46:27
  So, well, there's a lot to impact there.
• 46:31
  So why? Why did that happen?
• 46:33
  Well, he was crazy. He I have like.
• 46:36
  What what did you like about him?
• 46:37
  That is such a good question. I yeah, it was the tattoo.
• 46:41
  I got it. It was the butt sex tattoo and
• 46:43
  his first name. No, I just, it was COVID.
• 46:47
  We were indoors he was like basically homeless like he just
• 46:51
  like moved in with me as soon as we started dating rent free.
• 46:55
  I have so much commentary but keep going.
• 46:57
  Please, please it's. Really bad, like Oh my God.
• 46:59
  Anyway, he was a SoundCloud rapper.
• 47:01
  So that pretty much sums up all you need to know.
• 47:03
  Like I have a history of dating. Unfortunately, like SoundCloud
• 47:06
  rappers, which aren't even like a thing anymore.
• 47:08
  But at the time, yeah. It was rough.
• 47:11
  Oh my God, you're right. You literally started the show
• 47:13
  by being like, Oh, my lure is so dark and it goes deep and I'm
• 47:17
  like, wait, we should have started with this.
• 47:19
  No, like my lure is extensive. Well, he fumble so bad because
• 47:23
  you're so stunning. Oh my God, thank you so much.
• 47:25
  It's actually interesting because when I was researching
• 47:27
  you, this is just a tangent. Literally every time I was
• 47:29
  watching anything of you, I was just like staring at you.
• 47:31
  And I was like, yes, literally. Oh my God, you're so beautiful.
• 47:35
  No, you're dead ass. So beautiful.
• 47:37
  That's so. Sweet, you know what I feel
• 47:40
  like? I feel like the men who are like
• 47:41
  the most not in in a women's league fumble the hardest.
• 47:45
  Like a man that's like in your league will like know that the
• 47:49
  vibe is there. A man that is like in disbelief
• 47:52
  that he bagged you will like fuck it up and self sabotage the
• 47:56
  bag. I always feel like I don't know
• 47:57
  what this guy looks like, but like if I'm going to have a
• 47:59
  little visualizer, I always feel like it's like it's always a
• 48:01
  pretty girl and like just a guy. A guy that looks like he's from
• 48:05
  prehistoric times. Yeah, just a guy.
• 48:08
  Just a guy. Just a man.
• 48:09
  I also just feel like there's a really, there's like an an
• 48:12
  imbalance of like hot girls to hot like hot guys ratio.
• 48:16
  Oh yeah, no, for sure, definitely.
• 48:18
  But do you feel like that way in LA?
• 48:20
  Because I feel like in LA everyone's so gorgeous.
• 48:22
  Like, men are so gorgeous here. Yeah, men are gorgeous here.
• 48:24
  Right, but in a very feminine pretty way though.
• 48:26
  That's true, but I love like a feminine.
• 48:28
  Man, I was literally going to say I love feminine pretty men.
• 48:31
  Like I like pretty boys. Like if you look pretty, if you
• 48:34
  look, I always say this, I'm like, if you kind of can pass
• 48:36
  for like a lesbian. Like if you get gay allegations
• 48:40
  like you're my man, like yes, first of all, there's two
• 48:43
  requirements, gay allegations and mog me.
• 48:45
  OK, please never meet my men. Don't ever get my men.
• 48:50
  Stay away from them. Steer.
• 48:51
  Clear. Nina, lock the set doors.
• 48:55
  OK, Well, felt felt all of that on a spiritual level.
• 48:58
  Yeah. Wait.
• 48:58
  I also just want to do one more side tangent.
• 49:00
  I'm having such a great time with you.
• 49:02
  Me too. We're really cleaning out, We
• 49:04
  are. We no, you're lighting me.
• 49:08
  Up spilling like tea too. Like I never talk about my stuff
• 49:11
  this candidly. Oh my.
• 49:12
  God, I fucking love it. No, because, no, because you're
• 49:14
  saying shit and I'm like, my eyes are lighting.
• 49:16
  I'm like, yes, I'm like, Oh my God, yes, tell me.
• 49:17
  I'm like, yes, I get it. Oh my God.
• 49:19
  Well, he fumbled. Fuck him.
• 49:22
  Big fumble. I wanted to jump back into what
• 49:24
  you said earlier about how, you know, we talked about the
• 49:27
  ghosting thing. You said you're not really
• 49:28
  confrontational. Would you say you're more
• 49:29
  confrontational now versus where you were before?
• 49:32
  I think like confrontation still doesn't come supernaturally to
• 49:36
  me. It makes me uncomfortable.
• 49:37
  But I think just like owning my business of, of being an artist
• 49:42
  for all these years and working with so many people, especially
• 49:45
  when you're the artist, because people like to not take artists
• 49:48
  seriously, think we're like crazy or not smarter, I don't
• 49:51
  know. What it is, don't.
• 49:53
  Include us in the the e-mail threads with like our managers
• 49:56
  and stuff, which so I think just having to sort of like fight for
• 50:00
  my like, hey, like, no, I am this is my.
• 50:03
  Face. And like we're the product is
• 50:06
  me. So like obviously I need to be
• 50:08
  aware of what's going on and know everything.
• 50:10
  So I think just over years of that, I've definitely gotten
• 50:13
  more comfortable with confrontation.
• 50:14
  Like I know it just has to happen sometimes.
• 50:16
  Like there's nothing I hate more than having to tell a friend
• 50:21
  like Oh my God, like something is happening that's upsetting me
• 50:24
  or Oh my God having to fire someone is like my I.
• 50:27
  I actually have cried every time I've ever fired.
• 50:30
  Oh my God, we're so opposite. I'd be like, bye, girl.
• 50:34
  No, yeah, I'm good on it. Like, honestly, I'm not a
• 50:36
  stranger to firing people. Literally when I was hiring
• 50:39
  Nina, she's my Pai told her in the interview.
• 50:41
  I was like, by the way, at any given point I can and we'll fire
• 50:44
  you. Like, I'm not about firing
• 50:46
  people. And I also I don't feel any type
• 50:48
  of way about it. Well, it has to be done if it
• 50:50
  has to be done. And like if work isn't getting
• 50:52
  done there, I'm mad. Cut throat too.
• 50:53
  Yeah, yeah, that's how I hold everyone I work with to like the
• 50:57
  same standard I hold myself to. Yeah, same.
• 50:59
  And I treat everyone I work with really amazingly.
• 51:01
  And it appears you do too. So it's like, if you're not
• 51:03
  holding up your end, of course, yeah, no, you're a great host
• 51:06
  like everyone here is so. Kind that is so sweet team.
• 51:09
  How? How good am I?
• 51:11
  Got him up you're. So kind, right?
• 51:15
  What do you got? Bro laughed.
• 51:20
  Bro, Snort laughed. OK, we'll remember that.
• 51:23
  Yeah. Keep laughing, Brett.
• 51:26
  Keep laughing. Yeah.
• 51:26
  Sit over there. Yeah.
• 51:28
  Quietly. All right.
• 51:30
  What was that? Great.
• 51:32
  Louder. Ryan is great.
• 51:34
  Brett said. Ryan is great.
• 51:37
  And amazing and wonderful and perfect.
• 51:39
  I heard all of that. I saved Brett's life.
• 51:41
  I heard it. I heard it.
• 51:42
  I heard it. Let me borrow the Lamborghini.
• 51:48
  There we go because I was like, I'm sorry, this the show does
• 51:54
  not make that much yet. But if you want to help get Bret
• 51:57
  a Lamborghini, please rate the show 5 stars right now.
• 52:00
  Thank you. OK, well, I love getting into
• 52:03
  the confrontation. And honestly, Loki, I feel like
• 52:05
  you're about to confront me. So we just got sent this in from
• 52:11
  the Delulu PR team this morning. It's an allegation.
• 52:15
  And I saw both of her names in it.
• 52:17
  Do you mind just reading it and we could just see how we feel
• 52:19
  about it? OK, I'm kind of nervy about it.
• 52:22
  I like skimmed it, but I was like, we'll just squash it right
• 52:24
  now. OK, So this is from the Delulu
• 52:27
  Daily, which is the TMZ in the DCU, which is the Delulu
• 52:30
  Cinematic Universe. What do we got at least?
• 52:38
  Scan Delulu Delulu drama is heating up, and this time it's
• 52:42
  not just on the podcast. Ryan Liu, host of Delulu, has
• 52:46
  been teasing the show's upcoming season of Delulu After Dark,
• 52:49
  calling it pretty evil in recent interviews.
• 52:52
  A phrase that just so happens to be the exact title of dark pop
• 52:56
  star Elise's 2025 album. I did not.
• 52:59
  I didn't know that actually. Fans are already buzzing,
• 53:02
  accusing Ryan of reheating Elise's signature Moody nachos
• 53:06
  to fuel a rebound brand for the show.
• 53:08
  Insiders close to close to Elise exclusively tell Delulu Daily
• 53:12
  she's far from thrilled about the overlap, with one source
• 53:16
  saying it feels like Ryan is stepping on Elise artistry and
• 53:19
  she doesn't appreciate it one bit.
• 53:21
  Could this be the start of Hollywood's next great feud, or
• 53:23
  just a coincidence? Stay tuned, because if Elise
• 53:27
  claps back, it's about to get really evil.
• 53:29
  Oh, we should. Let's get into this.
• 53:31
  I was, I was hit up about this and I'm not going to say the
• 53:35
  inside sources were wrong. I felt like you were not only
• 53:40
  reheating my nachos, but reheating them in the microwave
• 53:42
  rather than rather than the air fryer, OK, which felt like an
• 53:47
  added disc. And I just think, I just think
• 53:51
  we should squash it. We should squash.
• 53:52
  It can I explain myself, please? At the very least?
• 53:54
  Yes. OK.
• 53:54
  So with this season of Delulu, Delulu after dark, Delulu After
• 53:58
  dark, it's actually a concept podcast.
• 54:01
  And the reason why I was describing it as pretty evil is
• 54:05
  because the podcast starts pretty and it it ends evil.
• 54:09
  So that's just where I got that from.
• 54:12
  Kind of like my how my album starts with the song Pretty and
• 54:16
  ends with the song Evil. I've never seen or heard of this
• 54:20
  project and honestly I feel like you actually took it from my
• 54:24
  press that I was doing for delulu so I'm a little upset
• 54:28
  with you. If anything, I think you
• 54:29
  reheated my nachos in the microwave and not the air fryer.
• 54:32
  I feel like you're gaslighting me right now.
• 54:33
  I would never gaslight. I'm not a gaslighter, right
• 54:36
  Brett? I'm feeling gaslit.
• 54:41
  I'm feeling, you know what I'm feeling?
• 54:45
  I'm feeling pretty evil. OK, well, let's squash this.
• 54:49
  I mean, I don't know if this is a bad time to reveal the new
• 54:53
  cover art that we shot for the Lulu After Dark, but we this is
• 54:59
  the This is the new season's cover art and this was a really
• 55:07
  expensive production, so. You look, first of all, you look
• 55:11
  amazing. I know, body snatch.
• 55:12
  No body snatch. Body snatch.
• 55:14
  Like everything snatched. Thank you.
• 55:16
  It's just weird because I feel like it's feels so familiar.
• 55:19
  I feel like. Iconic or?
• 55:21
  Something, yeah, it's like, it's so weird.
• 55:24
  Like I just feel like, yeah, I just feel like it looks so
• 55:27
  similar. Well, my concept was I wanted to
• 55:29
  be do you? Feel like do you see the
• 55:32
  similarity? Oh, it feels like you just took
• 55:37
  my cover or and took off the test.
• 55:39
  You were definitely in the mood board.
• 55:41
  You were in the mood board. OK, I can accept that.
• 55:43
  That the photographer. Said I can accept that.
• 55:45
  Yeah. So when I was shooting this, I
• 55:46
  just wanted to be sensual, you know what I mean?
• 55:48
  Like I said, the season's like pretty evil, you know?
• 55:51
  No, it's. Some it's a concept podcast.
• 55:54
  Yeah, understand. We wanted a darker vibe.
• 55:56
  Luckily, like, my album already came out months ago.
• 55:59
  So like, you can. You can do the pretty evil thing
• 56:00
  though. OK, OK, yeah, no, I mean, I feel
• 56:03
  like if someone doing better, you know who's mad?
• 56:08
  Wait, not me actually getting nervous.
• 56:09
  I'm like, wait, are we beeping? OK, we're, we're squashing the
• 56:14
  beef. We're.
• 56:14
  Squashing the beef. I think the cover looks amazing.
• 56:18
  You could literally rename your podcast Pretty Evil Tomorrow and
• 56:21
  I would be like yes Queen, yes Diva and I would love it.
• 56:25
  I love you. I'm happy that we squash the
• 56:26
  beef. I feel like we have a great
• 56:27
  relationship that we're building together.
• 56:28
  We do so honestly. Next season, please come back
• 56:32
  to. I would love to.
• 56:33
  Next season is Delulu Tapes season 3 Delulua.
• 56:37
  So yeah, it's about exploitation in the industry in general.
• 56:43
  Delulu Tapes. Delulu Tapes.
• 56:45
  I see. Delulu 3U's after the delulu.
• 56:50
  It's all one word too. Yeah, you know they say.
• 56:53
  They say copying is the best form of flattery.
• 56:58
  Well, I just announced my thing on this show and I don't think
• 57:01
  there's any album released yet, so I appreciate the flattery of.
• 57:05
  Course, of course. Okay, we'll share it.
• 57:07
  We'll share the aesthetic fair. Yeah, no, we can just Co
• 57:10
  release. We'll do like a little.
• 57:13
  Like and the podcast Let's Do It, you need to hop on every
• 57:16
  song with a verse. Absolutely.
• 57:18
  And then I just need to Co host all your episodes.
• 57:20
  OK. And then?
• 57:21
  We can just share everything 5050. 050506040 but yes, let's
• 57:26
  go. OK, well, I love it.
• 57:29
  OK. Beef squashed Beef squashed
• 57:32
  besties Beef squashed besties besties.
• 57:35
  Oh, OK. We love that.
• 57:37
  Well, it's a Lulu daily. Everything's good now, OK?
• 57:43
  Oh, the lingering, the lingering.
• 57:45
  I feel a little tense, but can I tell you?
• 57:50
  Yeah. Oh my God I rushed to Photoshop
• 57:52
  that this morning. It's honestly.
• 57:54
  Incredible. I kind of ate that up for the 5
• 57:56
  minutes I had. You really did like.
• 57:58
  So my roommate went to the gym and while he was gone I was like
• 58:01
  let me just do this without him looking at me because I know I'm
• 58:03
  going to feel judged. Graphic design is your power.
• 58:07
  And it surely. And it shows.
• 58:09
  Clearly, clearly. OK, well, we have a segment here
• 58:13
  on the show where our besties have sent in.
• 58:15
  There are questions, dilemmas, concerns and they want to get
• 58:19
  our advice on it. Our delulu take this is WWAGD.
• 58:22
  What would a delulu girl do? I love that.
• 58:24
  So we're going to see what our advice is for their concerns.
• 58:28
  Are you ready? Let's.
• 58:29
  Do it. OK so first one is from
• 58:31
  anonymous bestie we have. My roommate is always cock
• 58:34
  blocking me whenever we go out. I love her but it's annoying as
• 58:37
  fuck. She probably either hates the
• 58:41
  person you're getting with or wants you.
• 58:44
  So you like the friend the roommate wants the friend, the
• 58:48
  roommate wants your. Roommate is cock blocking you
• 58:50
  over and over again. They probably either hate the
• 58:53
  person you're trying to get with or they want you.
• 58:55
  Is this like personal experience?
• 58:56
  Where's this coming from? It's like low key personal.
• 58:58
  Experience. I was thinking, I was like, I
• 59:00
  was so specific. Though I I got I hate the word
• 59:03
  cock block. Really.
• 59:04
  I know, it's so nasty. I got like cock blocked by.
• 59:07
  Pussy pussy, pussy pussy. Pussy, pussy a seed away.
• 59:12
  And yeah, I I think that's it's one of two things.
• 59:16
  I feel like I've been in the other position where I I don't
• 59:19
  think I would pussy pussy personally, but I do think I
• 59:24
  have to sit on this but. It's also like, are you in the
• 59:26
  wrong? Because are you just like
• 59:27
  bringing someone to your house every single night and your
• 59:29
  roommate's like girl? I actually thought that too when
• 59:32
  like we were looking at this. Like go to his house or her
• 59:34
  house, get out of here A. 100% feel.
• 59:37
  Like we need more contacts to get the.
• 59:38
  Full roommate brings a man over every night.
• 59:41
  Oh my God. But I do like him.
• 59:42
  Oh my God, the side eye. The side.
• 59:46
  No, but the same man. Okay.
• 59:49
  And I do a. Different man every.
• 59:50
  Single and I love this man okay Beautiful and I love this man
• 59:54
  okay, I don't have advice on this.
• 59:57
  Stop inviting her out I guess. Don't invite her out at the
• 1:00:01
  boundary. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Confront her, ask her, be like, hey, do you have a crush on me?
• 1:00:06
  Love that. Have you ever done that?
• 1:00:07
  Yeah. Really.
• 1:00:08
  You've asked one of you had a crush on them.
• 1:00:10
  I've told someone like I know you like me and I was right.
• 1:00:13
  I would never say something bold like that unless I was like so.
• 1:00:16
  Confident. What happens from there?
• 1:00:19
  A situation ship that ended. OHK.
• 1:00:21
  OK, OK, OK. Took me out of the game.
• 1:00:23
  I'm a huge fan of telling people I feel.
• 1:00:26
  Me too. I don't like to hide it.
• 1:00:27
  I don't like to like, I'll just tell you straight up.
• 1:00:30
  I always do that like if I and it's rare for me to feel type of
• 1:00:33
  way, but if I feel type of way I'll just.
• 1:00:35
  Exactly same. Like it's so hard for me to
• 1:00:37
  actually get feelings for someone and be like attracted to
• 1:00:39
  someone in that way. So if it happens, I'm like, hey,
• 1:00:41
  I'm in love with you. Let's get.
• 1:00:43
  Married let's talk about this really quick.
• 1:00:45
  We'll get back to this. But you know how like we were
• 1:00:47
  talking about like, you know, the dark pop of it, the revenge
• 1:00:49
  pop of it all and like, you know, etcetera.
• 1:00:51
  I feel like talking to you. You're like so much more like
• 1:00:54
  lover girl than like your music gave gave off to me.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah. Do you feel that way because
• 1:00:59
  like for sure, because like, OK, a lot of the music feels like
• 1:01:01
  very like obsessive like Oh my God, I want you.
• 1:01:03
  I'm going to like talking with you or kill you and you know
• 1:01:06
  what I mean. Which I totally get.
• 1:01:07
  But yeah, maybe you're coming from like a lover girl obsession
• 1:01:11
  point of view from that. It definitely is a mix of both.
• 1:01:13
  Like I think I'm an obsession girl through and through.
• 1:01:16
  I don't know how to do anything like a little bit.
• 1:01:19
  I'm either like, I'm in love with you, I'm obsessed with you.
• 1:01:21
  I make you my whole world into my detriment.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah. This isn't like a flex.
• 1:01:26
  It's like very bad. No, it's terrible.
• 1:01:28
  And then when things got like bad and things end, then I'm
• 1:01:31
  like, Oh my God, I fucking either hate you or hate the New
• 1:01:34
  Girl or hate myself or a mixer, all three.
• 1:01:37
  And I'm just like losing my shit and absolutely having no sanity
• 1:01:41
  left. So either way, I'm insane.
• 1:01:43
  There's like the I love you and I'm obsessed with you.
• 1:01:45
  I'm insane or the like. You did me dirty and now like I,
• 1:01:50
  you don't want to see me when I'm.
• 1:01:52
  Girl, no, you literally just like, I feel like you were
• 1:01:54
  speaking for my soul. That's great because I'm so
• 1:01:56
  intense. Like I'm very all or nothing.
• 1:01:59
  Like all or nothing. Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  And I get real crazy with it, you know?
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, I'm like jumping out a car.
• 1:02:05
  Like, you know, sometimes you gotta get crazy.
• 1:02:08
  OK, I'm not that crazy with it. You know, that's funny.
• 1:02:11
  I told my friend, tell me that I my friend was like a
• 1:02:14
  photographer and he's just like friends with a ton of like goth
• 1:02:17
  baddies. Like he knows all the little
• 1:02:18
  like goth baddie models. And I was like, yeah, telling
• 1:02:22
  him about this crazy situation with my ex where I was like, he,
• 1:02:25
  you know, I was like pissed and triggered and I just jumped out
• 1:02:27
  of his car. Like on Victory Blvd.
• 1:02:29
  He was going like 40 and I just jumped out.
• 1:02:32
  And he literally goes, why is it a why is it a pivotal moment for
• 1:02:36
  every girl to jump out of a man's moving car at some point?
• 1:02:39
  And I'm like, oh, I didn't know that.
• 1:02:40
  Oh, so it's a common thing? I guess it's like a thing.
• 1:02:44
  It was. It left me with small injuries.
• 1:02:47
  I wouldn't recommend. I kind of like that, though.
• 1:02:51
  Not the injuries. I like that you did that.
• 1:02:53
  It's so dramatic. I love being dramatic.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah. Oh my God, I'm the most dramatic
• 1:02:57
  bitch ever. They get like psych ward level.
• 1:03:00
  OK, wait, what are your how do you cope when you're like,
• 1:03:02
  getting obsessed like this? What do you do?
• 1:03:05
  Oh my God, I don't know. I don't think I cope.
• 1:03:07
  I think I, I think music. Like that's such a basic answer,
• 1:03:11
  but it's genuinely true. The only way I can really cope
• 1:03:13
  and like get it out like I'm raw dogging life.
• 1:03:16
  I'm on no medication, I have no therapist.
• 1:03:18
  I ghost every single therapist. Like you want to talk about
• 1:03:20
  ghosting? I've ghosted a therapist more
• 1:03:22
  times than I've ghosted anyone else.
• 1:03:24
  They're the person you shouldn't be ghosting.
• 1:03:25
  I. Know like the most important
• 1:03:27
  person I shouldn't be ghosting. So I think like to me, the
• 1:03:30
  biggest thing is I just do music.
• 1:03:33
  That's the only way I can't. I can go a little less crazy.
• 1:03:36
  No, honestly, and it makes sense to like being able to process it
• 1:03:39
  and write it down. Like I like how like like I
• 1:03:41
  mentioned this earlier, like diary ask when you're being
• 1:03:45
  vulnerable is the best one. I want to put it.
• 1:03:47
  I'm like, where where are the words for this?
• 1:03:49
  When you're like, really laying it out there, you know?
• 1:03:51
  And I like that because honestly, as a crazy bitch too,
• 1:03:55
  I see you. Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  And. I got it.
• 1:03:56
  We see each other. We absolutely do.
• 1:03:58
  That's the. Thing like my music is for the
• 1:04:01
  girls who get it, like some girls get it and some girls
• 1:04:03
  don't, period. And not that any of it's a flex.
• 1:04:06
  Like it's never a flex to be like, Oh my God, like, you know,
• 1:04:09
  we did all these fucked up things to each other and now
• 1:04:11
  having these horrible like whatever, like emotions and all
• 1:04:15
  this stuff. But it's my reality.
• 1:04:17
  So it's like, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it and I'm never gonna
• 1:04:20
  rap, Cap. Like nothing I say in my songs
• 1:04:22
  is a lie. That's the self-awareness, Yeah.
• 1:04:24
  OK, so always talk about this. I want to get your take on this
• 1:04:26
  too. So basically when I write and I
• 1:04:28
  do anything, I always make sure it's like the person that is the
• 1:04:32
  muse in the situation knows it's about them.
• 1:04:34
  Like I'd be very specific. I want to make sure it's like
• 1:04:38
  very much like there's no avoiding it, you know?
• 1:04:40
  Do you feel like when you're making your writing, you're
• 1:04:43
  making your music? Do you have that in mind that
• 1:04:45
  you're like, this person's probably going to hear this?
• 1:04:47
  This person is it. Definitely and I want them to
• 1:04:50
  love it. I literally will write down to
• 1:04:53
  your eye color and hair color so that you know it's about.
• 1:04:55
  You. I like quoting people.
• 1:04:57
  Oh, that's. Good.
• 1:04:58
  I like direct quotes because like, yeah, you said that to me.
• 1:05:00
  Yeah. Like, remember your words.
• 1:05:03
  Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:04
  I one of my first songs I ever put out was called pinky promise
• 1:05:08
  and it's about like a breakup happening and just knowing the
• 1:05:12
  relationships not right anymore. And I asked my ex at the time
• 1:05:15
  not the same X that like pretty evil is about.
• 1:05:17
  This was way before that, but I was like, Hey, can I use this
• 1:05:19
  voicemail from you in my song? It was him being like, hey,
• 1:05:22
  like, I know we haven't talked. Like I really miss you did it.
• 1:05:25
  And he literally was like, fuck no, you can't.
• 1:05:27
  So of course I used it anyway. Oh yeah.
• 1:05:29
  And put it out. And that was fun.
• 1:05:31
  Like a little. I mean, he sent that to you.
• 1:05:33
  Yeah, I'm like, that's public property.
• 1:05:35
  And why send it to an artist if you don't want it to be used?
• 1:05:37
  Exactly. I'm like you.
• 1:05:38
  Loki wanted that. He did, yeah.
• 1:05:40
  That's why he did it. You're welcome.
• 1:05:41
  That's why he did it. He scripted that actually to be
• 1:05:43
  put in that. OK, I have a question for you.
• 1:05:45
  So you're really career driven, right?
• 1:05:47
  Definitely. We just talked about this.
• 1:05:49
  We're both super into our careers.
• 1:05:50
  Would you ever give up your career for like a man?
• 1:05:52
  Never. Really.
• 1:05:53
  No, man. Really.
• 1:05:55
  Absolutely not. I think whoever I end up with is
• 1:05:59
  gonna have to be someone like me where it's gonna be like very
• 1:06:02
  even 5050 in all areas. I think any like romantic
• 1:06:06
  partnership is not about like 01 person does this.
• 1:06:08
  And one, it doesn't matter how you divide it up.
• 1:06:10
  What matters is that like that both people are doing an even
• 1:06:14
  amount, whether that means like, you know, there's someone that
• 1:06:17
  is cooking and cleaning and someone that's bringing home the
• 1:06:19
  bacon. Like that's a 5050 in my eyes
• 1:06:21
  too, but that's not going to be me because I'm already so career
• 1:06:25
  driven. I would definitely need someone
• 1:06:27
  who like is that way too and has their own life.
• 1:06:30
  That's another big thing for me is I find men that also make me
• 1:06:33
  the center of their universe. Like they have no friends
• 1:06:36
  outside of me, like, or they drop all their friends and like
• 1:06:38
  just get so invested and like, I love it.
• 1:06:41
  So I'm like, yeah, come live with me.
• 1:06:43
  Like, let's hang out all day. I was like, you were saying
• 1:06:45
  that. I was like, wait, I like all of
• 1:06:47
  that. I know exactly and it feels so
• 1:06:49
  fun, but then next thing you know it's like, oh it's been
• 1:06:51
  months and I'm like not working as hard as I should and you're
• 1:06:54
  not. That's the thing.
• 1:06:56
  Yeah, that's so true. So it would definitely have to
• 1:06:59
  be someone that like me, just like putting my Love Island
• 1:07:01
  audition. I'm like whoever wants to date
• 1:07:04
  me be 6 successful, but also be not like having what's the word
• 1:07:10
  weaponized incompetence. Oh my God, that's like a hot
• 1:07:14
  TikTok word, but it's such a real thing.
• 1:07:16
  Yes, absolutely. Have you ever experienced that
• 1:07:19
  with someone like them? Just like not knowing, not
• 1:07:22
  knowing how to do the most simple things, or doing things
• 1:07:24
  wrong on purpose so that you'll just do them.
• 1:07:27
  Fucking literally I had the worst experience last year.
• 1:07:29
  So I this is for sure getting cut because I know this
• 1:07:32
  motherfucker is so psychotic and he's going to watch it.
• 1:07:34
  But I had a guy I live with me last year and like we were like
• 1:07:37
  a thing or whatever and then like he was just so baby and
• 1:07:41
  useless. I had to do everything for him
• 1:07:44
  and like, it was like the worst. I, I, I know everyone in here
• 1:07:48
  thinks I'm talking about Jamaica.
• 1:07:49
  I'm not. I'm talking about a guy from
• 1:07:51
  last year. I'm talking about a guy last
• 1:07:52
  year that was like, involved with it for whatever.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah. It's like the weaponizing
• 1:07:55
  Covetin. It's so frustrating.
• 1:07:58
  That's just like my biggest. 'Cause I'm just like, Oh my God,
• 1:08:00
  be he, him, motherfucker. Like what is happening really?
• 1:08:02
  Like change a tire. Oh my God, get.
• 1:08:05
  Under a car, do something. Here's the thing.
• 1:08:07
  You can't be like incompetent at like cooking and cleaning and
• 1:08:11
  like traditionally womanly things to do, but then also be
• 1:08:14
  like, I don't know how to build this IKEA table.
• 1:08:16
  Well, you better fuck, I can figure it out.
• 1:08:18
  Pick up the damn screwdriver, bitch.
• 1:08:19
  Build the table or like make the dinner like I can't do it all
• 1:08:23
  literally. Absolutely help move the couch
• 1:08:26
  in. And I also have a dad that is
• 1:08:28
  literally like Bob the Builder, like genuinely will just be like
• 1:08:32
  FaceTime you and be like I just built this shed today by myself.
• 1:08:35
  So the expectations are already high.
• 1:08:36
  The expectation is high. Like I, I, I have a lot of
• 1:08:41
  skills. So like I need someone that also
• 1:08:43
  has, like I say, skills as in like just like knowing how to do
• 1:08:46
  random shit that you need to know how to do.
• 1:08:49
  All the side quests come in. This is the side.
• 1:08:51
  Quests. Like you got to know how.
• 1:08:54
  To build character. Does you got to know how to do
• 1:08:57
  shit? Like this is the Love Island
• 1:08:59
  pitch then. So you're side questing, you
• 1:09:01
  have all these little skills you acquired.
• 1:09:03
  We need person to match that energy.
• 1:09:07
  I need a freak ass bitch that knows how to build shit and can
• 1:09:12
  change my tires and is nice to me and not evil and doesn't
• 1:09:19
  follow 10,000 girls on Instagram that are hot as fuck.
• 1:09:22
  Damn, that was the affirmation. That is the affirmation I
• 1:09:24
  received that I claim that. Do I want all that?
• 1:09:27
  Let me think do. You know, like will it even be?
• 1:09:30
  Fucked. I'm like, that's where my mind
• 1:09:32
  was. I was like, wait, not evil.
• 1:09:36
  We started with a freak ass bitch.
• 1:09:38
  OK, like be a little crazy, but just like in a fun way.
• 1:09:42
  I like when a motherfucker is like insane about me.
• 1:09:44
  So here's what I notice. I attract.
• 1:09:46
  I notice that I attract like people who were like, like, so
• 1:09:51
  all in for me. And for some reason, I'm like,
• 1:09:54
  like, yeah. 'Cause there's no chase.
• 1:09:57
  Oh my God we're so toxic. I know it's so I don't like to
• 1:09:59
  do the. Problem people are going to
• 1:10:01
  watch us and be like we're the problem.
• 1:10:03
  You guys are the villain. We're the problem.
• 1:10:04
  Absolutely. Going to say it before you guys
• 1:10:06
  can say it. We are.
• 1:10:07
  Yeah, no, I acknowledge it. I said earlier I want to be the
• 1:10:09
  villain. So thank you.
• 1:10:11
  Yes, Don't cross us. Exactly.
• 1:10:15
  But yeah, I think like, I think people like when they're too
• 1:10:19
  nice and perfect, it's like there's no, there's no spice.
• 1:10:24
  I kind of get that, yeah, it's so bad.
• 1:10:26
  I can acknowledge that because I have the I will be like, I'll
• 1:10:28
  know the nicest boys or whatever and I'll just be like, oh,
• 1:10:32
  you're so nice. And I'm like, I know I'm going
• 1:10:33
  to break your heart. And then I get my heart broken
• 1:10:36
  by like some other motherfucker. And I'm like, that's my karma.
• 1:10:39
  And then? It like really docks your like
• 1:10:41
  your ego because you're like, I'm the, I'm the evil
• 1:10:44
  motherfucker, like you're dogging me.
• 1:10:46
  And then it's always someone that like goes for you first,
• 1:10:50
  like someone you weren't even looking at, and then they like
• 1:10:53
  creep their way into your life and then they just fuck you
• 1:10:56
  over. Those motherfuckers, I hate
• 1:10:58
  those motherfuckers. Like they're the ones who will
• 1:11:00
  like, they will pursue you and you will like not give a fuck.
• 1:11:03
  You're not interested in whatever.
• 1:11:04
  You're living your life and they're the one, and then they
• 1:11:08
  fuck you and then they fuck you up and then they fuck you up and
• 1:11:10
  then. Also like you're not even
• 1:11:12
  interested in them at first because you're like oh like no,
• 1:11:15
  they make you like them. Yes, they they shape shift into
• 1:11:20
  a reflection of you fucking chameleon motherfuckers
• 1:11:23
  reptilians, yes. And then next thing you know,
• 1:11:25
  you're like, wait, I have an emotional attachment to you.
• 1:11:27
  And the second you do, they're like.
• 1:11:29
  Now it's like now I'm crying every day, now I'm drinking, now
• 1:11:33
  I'm like doing everything that I should.
• 1:11:35
  I should just be focusing I'm. Listing 5 things I can see, 10
• 1:11:39
  things I can touch. And now I'm UN ghosting the
• 1:11:43
  therapist vegan. Now I'm in behavior cognitive
• 1:11:48
  behavioral therapy. Oh God, we are the problem.
• 1:11:51
  We are OK, but it's not our fault, no.
• 1:11:55
  Because we're the victim. Actually, I take it all back.
• 1:11:57
  We're the victims. Yes.
• 1:11:59
  Well, yes, because here's the thing.
• 1:12:01
  We're only problematic because we've been crafted to be that
• 1:12:04
  way by evil motherfuckers. They made us like that.
• 1:12:07
  I agree. They made us like that.
• 1:12:09
  I agree. OK.
• 1:12:11
  Well, we're not the problem. OK, so wait, I have a situation
• 1:12:15
  I want to give you. So you wouldn't give up your
• 1:12:17
  career for a man. Let's say you're with a man or
• 1:12:18
  whatever. Let's say you're a person.
• 1:12:20
  You're like in a deep relationship.
• 1:12:21
  You love them, da da da. You're like obsessed with them.
• 1:12:23
  And let's say they like, have to move.
• 1:12:25
  Would you move with them? You have to leave LA.
• 1:12:27
  Would you leave? They didn't get their visa or
• 1:12:29
  something. Like to wear?
• 1:12:31
  I don't know Poland. Poland, I'm just making.
• 1:12:34
  I don't know anything. Yeah, I.
• 1:12:35
  Can't I think like if it's somewhere that I also think is
• 1:12:38
  really cool? Maybe, but probably not.
• 1:12:41
  I have, I want to live close to my family.
• 1:12:44
  My family's all in San Francisco, so I would never move
• 1:12:47
  like across the country or something because I love going
• 1:12:50
  to visit my family. I'm like very close with my
• 1:12:52
  family and I'm where's your brother?
• 1:12:54
  My brother is in the Bay. He used to live in LA, but he
• 1:12:57
  moved back up to the Bay. Got it, Got it.
• 1:12:58
  I mean, it's not that far because especially where you are
• 1:13:00
  right now. Yeah, it's easy.
• 1:13:01
  It's either like the worst little 5 hour drive ever or like
• 1:13:04
  a 45 minute plane. There you go.
• 1:13:06
  So it's easy. Got it.
• 1:13:08
  Yep. Was curious.
• 1:13:09
  My roomie and I were talking about it when we're driving
• 1:13:10
  here. That's why I was like, let me
• 1:13:11
  ask. Basically, I'll make no
• 1:13:13
  sacrifices for a man and. You shouldn't and you shouldn't.
• 1:13:16
  I love that you shouldn't. Oh my God, I'm such a fucking,
• 1:13:20
  I'm a sacrifice ass bitch when it comes to like men.
• 1:13:22
  I like like I would literally be like, Oh yeah, you want my car?
• 1:13:25
  Take it and like you want my. Okay, in that way, yes, like you
• 1:13:29
  can move in with me, you can drive my car.
• 1:13:31
  Actually, every boyfriend I've ever had hasn't had a car, and
• 1:13:34
  every boyfriend I've ever had has crashed my car while driving
• 1:13:36
  it. Like every single one.
• 1:13:39
  Shut the hell. Well, I've had two like
• 1:13:41
  boyfriends, but three like I guess 3 boyfriends like 1 wasn't
• 1:13:45
  official, but it was long enough to where like it was my
• 1:13:47
  boyfriend that's a boyfriend. Three different men have crashed
• 1:13:50
  my car that I've. Had all the time keep your keys.
• 1:13:53
  No, I know. You'd think I would learn.
• 1:13:55
  Honestly, I don't even blame you.
• 1:13:56
  I don't learn nothing either. Like I make the same mistakes
• 1:13:59
  over and over again. I don't stop, you know what I
• 1:14:01
  mean? Like, and I reckon that's the
• 1:14:03
  self-awareness for me, 'cause I'm like, I know what I'm, I
• 1:14:05
  know this is bad, I know this is a bad idea and I'll blame other
• 1:14:07
  people like, yeah, I'm like, Brett, why didn't you stop me?
• 1:14:11
  Why did you let me do that? And.
• 1:14:13
  Your friends are like babe, you were manic.
• 1:14:15
  Oh my God, you couldn't. Be.
• 1:14:17
  Stopped. Oh my God, I don't even think I
• 1:14:18
  really have friends per SE, but my team will clock my ass all
• 1:14:21
  the time. They'll be like, Oh yeah, girly.
• 1:14:23
  And I'm like, I'm like, hey, give my phone back.
• 1:14:28
  That was literally Mina earlier. Like someone texted me and she
• 1:14:31
  saw my phone and she was like, what is this?
• 1:14:33
  And I was like. Oh, but that's good though, like
• 1:14:37
  getting clocked is important because if everyone around me
• 1:14:39
  was just like yes, like yes man, that's like actually scarier in
• 1:14:43
  my opinion, 100. Percent especially.
• 1:14:45
  If you're crazy like I, which we both are clearly because then
• 1:14:48
  you really need to get clocked or shit can go down.
• 1:14:51
  Like if I didn't have people clocking me I probably I can't
• 1:14:55
  even get into. Literally, I was in a meeting
• 1:14:58
  with a potential new manager and I was telling my PA I was like,
• 1:15:03
  you know, I don't think I'm go for it 'cause I could tell she's
• 1:15:05
  like a yes man. Like it's like yes, yes, yes,
• 1:15:08
  yes. And I was like, I, I don't want
• 1:15:09
  that. I need someone who's going to be
• 1:15:11
  able to guide me and really clock it for me because you know
• 1:15:13
  what I mean? Like I also just like I'm very
• 1:15:16
  peculiar about everything. So I agree with you on that.
• 1:15:19
  It's you're right. It's good to be, it's good to be
• 1:15:21
  clocked to me things. It is.
• 1:15:22
  It sucks when it happens but it's like OK you're a real ass
• 1:15:25
  bitch. Well, to be honest though, I'm
• 1:15:26
  going to do whatever the hell I'm going to do anyways.
• 1:15:27
  Exactly. But you can tell me.
• 1:15:29
  Yeah. And I will take it.
• 1:15:30
  Exactly. You can tell me.
• 1:15:32
  I'll be like, yeah, I know. I'm still doing it.
• 1:15:35
  Exactly. All my friends hate the man.
• 1:15:38
  I was like kind of liking a while ago, but I was like, I'm
• 1:15:42
  going to do it anyway and sorry like I haven't.
• 1:15:47
  There's nothing more to. Say, I mean it'd be like that
• 1:15:49
  and I fear he's the 1 then. He's not the one.
• 1:15:53
  Oh shit, he's not the. One OK, yeah, rebuke.
• 1:15:56
  Rebuke, rebuke. Claim.
• 1:15:58
  Don't claim. Not claiming.
• 1:16:00
  No claim, none of that. Not a firm.
• 1:16:02
  We skipping that skipped? Well, honestly, we're genuinely
• 1:16:06
  unqualified to be answering these questions and giving
• 1:16:09
  advice, but let's keep going. Let's keep going.
• 1:16:10
  I love it. So the guy I like that I'm
• 1:16:13
  besties with always tells me thinking about dates he's going
• 1:16:15
  on with other girls. Where we at?
• 1:16:19
  So you like? Him.
• 1:16:20
  You like him? And you guys are just friends.
• 1:16:23
  It's just past you. It's not like he's doing
• 1:16:24
  something wrong. What if he knows that the best
• 1:16:30
  person likes them? Well, that's what I was going to
• 1:16:32
  say because sometimes people over share things like that
• 1:16:35
  because they're almost trying to like make you jealous on purpose
• 1:16:38
  to see what your reaction, Oh my God, to gauge if you like them.
• 1:16:42
  Yes. And then you do a little game
• 1:16:43
  with them and then you talk, start talking about like, like
• 1:16:46
  holding hands with this guy. We're going to kiss our holy
• 1:16:48
  party. Yes.
• 1:16:49
  Yeah. Leaving.
• 1:16:50
  For a kiss, see what he does. I am such a fan of that.
• 1:16:54
  Yes, just. See what he does.
• 1:16:56
  He'll probably kiss you. He's a.
• 1:16:58
  Man he wants to kiss you. Oh my God, they he hims be
• 1:17:01
  kissing. Because he wants you.
• 1:17:03
  Love it. Honestly I'm right there with
• 1:17:06
  you. I completely agree with that.
• 1:17:07
  He's talking about these other dates.
• 1:17:08
  He's going on to make you jealous and feel the type of
• 1:17:10
  way. And like, is he talking about
• 1:17:11
  them like this was an awesome date and this girl was so cute,
• 1:17:14
  Or is he talking about them like this was a horrible day and and
• 1:17:17
  no one gets me like you, you know, So I think he's just lean
• 1:17:22
  in for the little. Going for the kiss, I would I
• 1:17:25
  have. Make it slow so he has time to
• 1:17:27
  like consent. Right, right, right, right.
• 1:17:30
  So they could acknowledge what's happening right now.
• 1:17:32
  Choose to, yeah. OK, there there are a lot of
• 1:17:34
  rules to this answer, but every single one has to be abided by
• 1:17:39
  and. If he rejects you, just burn his
• 1:17:41
  house down. Wait, how do you feel about
• 1:17:42
  rejection? I like rejection in all senses.
• 1:17:47
  Just like in general, like honestly I don't, I feel like I
• 1:17:50
  don't mind rejection. For me, it's like if I if I'm
• 1:17:52
  rejected, I could OK and I just going in my life.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, to be honest, like in work and stuff, I don't mind it at
• 1:17:57
  all. I'm so used to it.
• 1:17:58
  Like obviously this earlier is not a.
• 1:18:00
  Nose one yes yeah, but with men, I almost never go for a man
• 1:18:06
  first, so there's like no opportunity for.
• 1:18:08
  I fucking love that like. I just wait for them to come to
• 1:18:11
  me. Oh my God, yeah, you don't chase
• 1:18:12
  your track. I literally don't chase.
• 1:18:14
  Not because I'm like, oh, like I don't need to.
• 1:18:16
  I'm just like, I just, I'm like, no, I'm scared.
• 1:18:19
  Like you just come to me and then we'll see what happens.
• 1:18:23
  No. Literally this is a masculine
• 1:18:24
  energy anyways they should be chasing.
• 1:18:26
  Yeah, yes. I'm like, I'm cute and fun.
• 1:18:29
  You are cute and fun. Come find me.
• 1:18:31
  Oh my God. Wait.
• 1:18:32
  OK, wait. Candidly, do you feel like if a
• 1:18:35
  potential suitor were to watch this podcast with you, do you
• 1:18:38
  think they'd be more? Oh my God.
• 1:18:42
  I think they would block me. They'd be like this crazy ass
• 1:18:46
  bitch. Like absolutely not which like
• 1:18:48
  valid but but like I said, I'm standing by the fact that I'm
• 1:18:54
  actually very nice and not crazy until I have a reason to be I'm.
• 1:18:58
  Actually stressed right now because I know when we're
• 1:19:00
  editing this, I I'm there's too many highlights for me.
• 1:19:03
  Oh my. God, the amount of sound bites,
• 1:19:05
  the amount of clips. No, I'm like, scared.
• 1:19:08
  I know I'm actually. Scared No, because I'm just
• 1:19:10
  like, I'm like somethings that you're saying because me like to
• 1:19:13
  speak, but somethings I'm gagged and I'm just like, I'm looking
• 1:19:16
  at the camera like. The crowd was silent.
• 1:19:20
  My ex watches this like. Which one the?
• 1:19:23
  Not the not the name tattoo one we don't fuck with.
• 1:19:25
  Him no, he's not welcome there's.
• 1:19:27
  Someone Loki. Love him.
• 1:19:29
  That's Loki, my bestie. What is happening?
• 1:19:34
  I think I date you. You're so fun.
• 1:19:36
  We should just date. Let's just fucking date.
• 1:19:38
  Let's. Just date, OK, Yeah, we make
• 1:19:40
  like a, a domestic partnership pact if we're both single.
• 1:19:43
  And you know what? I'm good on the 5052 perfect.
• 1:19:45
  I'm honestly super domesticated for no reason.
• 1:19:47
  Yeah, it's kind of same. We, we would have a good
• 1:19:50
  domestic partnership. We'd both be cooking, cleaning.
• 1:19:52
  We'd be vacuuming. We'd own 5 vacuums.
• 1:19:55
  Oh my God, yes, yeah, I have 3 in my house.
• 1:19:58
  Me. Too.
• 1:19:58
  No, I have 4:00. I have a Dyson, I have an LG
• 1:20:01
  cordless, I have a robo back and then I have my mop.
• 1:20:06
  OK, wait, we should date. We should date.
• 1:20:08
  OK, wait, wait. Wait, how do I?
• 1:20:11
  How do I do this? Do you want to be my girlfriend?
• 1:20:16
  How do I do? You have to like write on a note
• 1:20:18
  and pass it to. Me, I'm like shy now.
• 1:20:20
  And you know what's funny? I'm not shy.
• 1:20:22
  You just wanted to tell people how I feel.
• 1:20:23
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:20:24
  Don't make eye contact with me. Can we go out?
• 1:20:28
  Like like as friends or like on a date?
• 1:20:31
  Like like on a date? Wait, I'd.
• 1:20:34
  Love. To OK, wait, the Love Island
• 1:20:36
  thing, like the dating profile we just made is just thrown out
• 1:20:39
  the door. All right, listen.
• 1:20:41
  Step up, claim it quick. But she's a hot commodity.
• 1:20:45
  You trying to get Elise's name on you?
• 1:20:47
  Like you could be the 6th there. You go, OK, we're we're not
• 1:20:53
  qualified for this. Let's let's do the.
• 1:20:55
  Next one, we're the least qualified people.
• 1:20:57
  Actually terribly unqualified. Yeah.
• 1:20:59
  And I think you, you unhinge me even more.
• 1:21:01
  I'm sorry. No, I like it so much.
• 1:21:03
  My Co writer and I were talking about it and I was like, I think
• 1:21:06
  I need to get more evil because I feel like I'm trying to get
• 1:21:08
  evil, but right now I'm just pretty evil.
• 1:21:10
  But I need to get like really evil you.
• 1:21:13
  Brought in the right bitch. I'm we really did.
• 1:21:16
  We really did. Oh my gosh.
• 1:21:18
  OK, so my roommate keeps inviting their friends over and
• 1:21:21
  I obviously love it because they all love me, but it drains my
• 1:21:23
  social battery. What's tea?
• 1:21:26
  I mean, to me, that kind of feels like, OK, you love them
• 1:21:31
  and they love you and you guys are having fun.
• 1:21:33
  If your social batteries. Yeah, literally.
• 1:21:35
  Like if your social batteries drain.
• 1:21:36
  Like go to bed babe. Go.
• 1:21:38
  Literally you're home, go watch Netflix.
• 1:21:40
  So for me, I feel like I like it when people are over and I don't
• 1:21:44
  have to entertain them. So like I could pop in and out
• 1:21:47
  whenever I want. Love that.
• 1:21:49
  I love, I like having people around, but I don't always like
• 1:21:51
  being actively like because I feel like I have to entertain
• 1:21:54
  people when they're at my house. Me too, yes, but I think that's
• 1:21:57
  like a good like manner politeness to have.
• 1:22:00
  Like. I love when I go to someone's
• 1:22:02
  house and they're like, do you want like how sweet you were
• 1:22:04
  when we came here today? Like I can see that being how
• 1:22:06
  you are at home too. And I Oh my God, I feel like I'm
• 1:22:09
  the same and that's good. I love that.
• 1:22:11
  That's good, but it is a little bit exhausting.
• 1:22:13
  Yeah. Like hosting I I get really
• 1:22:15
  tired after. I'm like oh I need to be by
• 1:22:17
  myself for like 7 to 9 days now. Oh my God, I feel like I got
• 1:22:21
  recently I've been loving not being alone, which is
• 1:22:22
  interesting because I usually love being alone, but now I feel
• 1:22:25
  like I need to be like around people at all times, you know?
• 1:22:27
  That's like, I feel like I think it's all seasons.
• 1:22:30
  It's all like just kind of like what's the word I'm looking for?
• 1:22:33
  Not seasons. We have to cut me being stupid
• 1:22:36
  and not knowing words. Out I don't know this one
• 1:22:38
  either. OK, it's.
• 1:22:40
  It's like a really simple word. It's literally like phases like.
• 1:22:45
  We go through seasons I. Phases, cycles.
• 1:22:48
  Like I feel like life is just like, like I kind of, I'm not
• 1:22:51
  way too like sometimes I want to be alone a lot and then
• 1:22:53
  sometimes I literally can't be alone.
• 1:22:55
  I start to like go crazy and I need to be with people.
• 1:22:58
  Recently I've just been there. The phases of life.
• 1:23:00
  Oh God, I don't what? OK, what would we call this
• 1:23:02
  chapter in our lives right now? Like your chapter and I'll say
• 1:23:04
  mine. I think my chapter is definitely
• 1:23:08
  right now a growth chapter at least.
• 1:23:10
  I'm trying to make it be a healing and growth chapter.
• 1:23:13
  I really like that. It makes my chapter seem really
• 1:23:17
  fucked up. Mine is self-destructive.
• 1:23:19
  So I'm like and I'm the type of motherfucker that I won't just
• 1:23:23
  like go down. I will burn everything down with
• 1:23:26
  me. Everything comes with me.
• 1:23:28
  Everything burns down with me. Ashes, ashes, ashes.
• 1:23:33
  I love that. Well, you're the main character
• 1:23:34
  and it's your world I love. That's just how it is.
• 1:23:37
  Also, I'm a big believer that like every oh, sorry, my throat
• 1:23:41
  made a weird sound. I'm a good believer that like
• 1:23:42
  everything is kind of a balance of two sides of things.
• 1:23:47
  Like I don't think you can really enjoy love if you haven't
• 1:23:50
  experienced like hate. I don't think you can enjoy like
• 1:23:53
  happiness if you haven't experienced sadness.
• 1:23:55
  I think you need to have moments of self destruction so that you
• 1:23:57
  can build yourself back up again.
• 1:23:59
  Wow, I love that so much. I kind of needed to hear that.
• 1:24:02
  That was a bar. Oh, thank you.
• 1:24:03
  Oh. My God, you just like off the
• 1:24:04
  Dome. That too.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, well that's really how I feel because I've been in super
• 1:24:08
  self-destructive times too. But now looking back, I'm like,
• 1:24:10
  I needed to be that girl so that I could kill her and build the
• 1:24:13
  girl. I am not.
• 1:24:14
  Not that I'm fucking awesome and.
• 1:24:15
  Perfect. I mean you.
• 1:24:16
  Are but I think over and over again, we just kind of like
• 1:24:19
  build ourselves up and get in these things and then we the
• 1:24:23
  shitty things we go through make the good things later.
• 1:24:26
  Like make sense. At least that's how I feel.
• 1:24:29
  No, no, I completely agree with you.
• 1:24:31
  Yeah, OK. Do you feel like life is like
• 1:24:33
  black and white, black or white? No, not at all.
• 1:24:35
  We live in like Shades of Grey. I 100% think like in a super
• 1:24:39
  Gray area of mentality, that's even like the point of pretty
• 1:24:42
  evil. Pretty evil is like that was
• 1:24:45
  what it meant to me. That's why I did like pretty as
• 1:24:48
  the first track and evil as the last track because to me that's
• 1:24:51
  the black and white. And then everything in between
• 1:24:53
  is a very like push and pull Gray area of like love and hate
• 1:24:58
  and. It's just, it's such an intense
• 1:25:00
  like body of work too. Thank you.
• 1:25:02
  It really is. And I mean, obviously actually
• 1:25:03
  in the best way, it's so intense in the way where it's just like
• 1:25:05
  you're bearing it out. And it's like, I love the, I
• 1:25:08
  don't want to say the word vulnerability, but it's what is
• 1:25:11
  the unapologeticness of being like, yeah, this is it.
• 1:25:14
  Thank you. Hey.
• 1:25:15
  Yeah. Pretty evil.
• 1:25:16
  I definitely feel like that was the vibe I wanted it to have, so
• 1:25:20
  thank you so much. Oh my God, I'm so excited and
• 1:25:22
  I'm so, so, so fucking excited for sex.
• 1:25:23
  Tape me. Too.
• 1:25:25
  It's going to be so good. It's going to, it's gonna be
• 1:25:28
  coming out really soon. Wait, I'm like super excited
• 1:25:30
  because Zim pop is like my favorite genre.
• 1:25:31
  I'll send it to you so you can Oh my God, will you please?
• 1:25:34
  It's. Not like 100% dumb but you'll
• 1:25:36
  get the vibe. OK, I'm so excited.
• 1:25:38
  Yeah. OK, OK.
• 1:25:39
  Wait, when's the lead single of that one coming out?
• 1:25:40
  Or did it Rick him out? It didn't yet.
• 1:25:42
  Keep an eye out for it, sex tape.
• 1:25:44
  And in the meanwhile, we're listening to Die and Pretty
• 1:25:47
  Evil. We're streaming Die.
• 1:25:49
  We're streaming Pretty Evil. We're streaming Pretty Evil
• 1:25:51
  Deluxe. We're saving up for tour in
• 1:25:54
  January. Tour January.
• 1:25:55
  I'm so excited. OK, well I ask every guest that
• 1:25:59
  come on the show and honestly I feel like we've said a million
• 1:26:02
  of them at this point. You know exactly what I'm about
• 1:26:03
  to ask. It's funny because contacts
• 1:26:06
  Lulu. So I'm about to ask Elise what
• 1:26:07
  her most Lulu take is. And before we started the show
• 1:26:10
  she was like, I don't know. I don't really have anything
• 1:26:12
  going to mind. And I'm like no, I don't have
• 1:26:14
  one this show either. Like, I don't know, I feel like
• 1:26:17
  we've delulu the hell out of this episode.
• 1:26:20
  We've said so many. Give me, give me another.
• 1:26:23
  Delulu take. Give me a delulu take.
• 1:26:26
  I'm like, I'm on the edge of my seat because you've been, you've
• 1:26:28
  been giving. This is our show.
• 1:26:30
  This needs to be such a bar like I just I feel the pressure.
• 1:26:33
  No, the pressure is up. I think my biggest overarching
• 1:26:36
  delulu take is that if it's broke, you can keep trying to
• 1:26:41
  fix it and maybe one day it'll actually get fixed.
• 1:26:44
  Keep working on that, that horrible thing that's already
• 1:26:48
  not going well and beating a dead horse, and maybe one day
• 1:26:50
  it'll actually get fixed. Has that ever actually gone
• 1:26:53
  fixed for you? No.
• 1:26:54
  Oh, but I would probably do it again.
• 1:26:56
  Oh, so that's my delulu. That's like my true delulu take
• 1:26:59
  because I actually do that. And then I have to think like
• 1:27:03
  later, like, oh, I'm being crazy.
• 1:27:05
  I feel like I'm such a logical, rational person that like, I
• 1:27:08
  want to be like, I would not do that.
• 1:27:09
  I know better. But then Oh my God, I'd be.
• 1:27:13
  You got me so stressed out. Oh my God.
• 1:27:15
  Love is like a crazy thing. It makes all I feel like it just
• 1:27:18
  makes logic and like intelligence go out the window
• 1:27:21
  because in other areas of my life I'm like, yeah, logical,
• 1:27:24
  this makes sense. This doesn't make sense.
• 1:27:26
  Yes. But then second, somebody starts
• 1:27:29
  getting in your ear, getting in there.
• 1:27:31
  OK, you know what? Let's go back to not dating.
• 1:27:34
  No, we can't start this episode with me saying I'm not dating
• 1:27:37
  anyone and that is a fact and I am taking time to heal and
• 1:27:41
  become normal. Absolutely and it's happening
• 1:27:44
  yes based on this this episode it's it's it's getting there
• 1:27:49
  we're. Getting there, we're getting
• 1:27:50
  there. There's a lot to be undone.
• 1:27:53
  Honestly, yes. Do you feel like this was
• 1:27:55
  therapy for you? This did feel very.
• 1:27:57
  I felt like it was therapy for. Me it was like I feel for me
• 1:28:01
  too, like I feel like I definitely overshared, which I
• 1:28:03
  enjoyed. So I like this was great and I
• 1:28:07
  never do therapy so I just got to like trauma dump everything
• 1:28:09
  onto. You no.
• 1:28:10
  And you know what's crazy? Because all your trauma dumping,
• 1:28:12
  I was like, yeah, got that. I was like, I feel that.
• 1:28:14
  I was like, I understand that. Yeah.
• 1:28:15
  So I'm like, wait, you are crazy though.
• 1:28:18
  So I'm like, wait, what did this?
• 1:28:19
  Say. Yeah, I was like, what does that
• 1:28:21
  make me then? Like.
• 1:28:23
  It makes us the victim, like we said.
• 1:28:25
  OK Elise, my heart's broken. We close out every show by
• 1:28:30
  manifesting together. Is there anything that you want
• 1:28:33
  to speak into existence here on Delulu?
• 1:28:35
  I also want to note that a lot of Delulu alum go on to being
• 1:28:38
  extremely successful. Oh my goodness.
• 1:28:40
  It's crazy. I'm so proud.
• 1:28:41
  Let's hold my crystals. OK, I brought.
• 1:28:44
  Crystals to the show. OK, OK, OK.
• 1:28:47
  We have crystals. Dragon blood.
• 1:28:48
  We have Dragon's blood. We have.
• 1:28:50
  I don't know what this is. I think it might be that Crystal
• 1:28:54
  girlies. Lap.
• 1:28:55
  Lap. Lap.
• 1:28:56
  Lap. Lap.
• 1:28:56
  Lap. Lap.
• 1:28:58
  Lap. Lap Lapis.
• 1:28:59
  I think it's. OK, don't eat us.
• 1:29:01
  The Crystal girlies are about to come for us.
• 1:29:03
  No, no. No, no.
• 1:29:05
  Wait, Charlie, what crystal is this?
• 1:29:07
  She's purple. Oh yeah, purple it looks.
• 1:29:10
  Like some kind of. It has to be Amethyst.
• 1:29:12
  And then, well, it's a moon. It's kind of and we have an
• 1:29:17
  opolite school so here you can which one whichever 1 you like
• 1:29:19
  the most takes. The school I.
• 1:29:21
  Think yes, OK, I'm sorry. I keep wait.
• 1:29:24
  What do they do? Oh, sorry, bright ASMR. You
• 1:29:33
  just, I don't know what they do. Let's manifest girl.
• 1:29:37
  And they're cute. Let's manifest.
• 1:29:39
  Let's manifest. I'm manifesting for both of us
• 1:29:43
  that we both continue on our journeys of being career
• 1:29:47
  oriented. I hope we both find all of the
• 1:29:50
  happiness and success we want in our careers.
• 1:29:52
  And when the time is right for both of us that somebody comes
• 1:29:56
  into our lives that will make the things we said on this
• 1:29:59
  podcast be something of the past, that's what I'm
• 1:30:03
  manifesting. Prayers up.
• 1:30:04
  This is going to be the archive they were going to watch back
• 1:30:07
  and be like, oh, that's what I got myself into.
• 1:30:09
  I hope so do your research, babe.
• 1:30:12
  What's what's mine? All of that too, claiming.
• 1:30:16
  Claim Claim without sound. Fuck, I don't know.
• 1:30:19
  You had a good one. OK, what am I manifesting right
• 1:30:21
  now? I'm manifesting.
• 1:30:26
  I'm so sorry. Brett's going to hate me when
• 1:30:28
  he's editing this. I am manifesting.
• 1:30:32
  I want to do like a good insightful one, like just off
• 1:30:34
  record right now. Now I'm like thinking because I
• 1:30:36
  was being like, oh, the show doing well when I'm like I said
• 1:30:38
  that every episode I think probably so fuck, why do I want
• 1:30:43
  it? Like it can be specific to like
• 1:30:46
  a random thing too. God, I don't know.
• 1:30:50
  Wait. OK, let me just something.
• 1:30:54
  What? OK, I'm manifesting.
• 1:31:01
  It's hard because a part of me wants you to suffer.
• 1:31:05
  It's it's hard because like I would, but I, I want you to
• 1:31:08
  suffer a little bit. So Oh my God, this motherfucker
• 1:31:14
  has so much blackmail on me. I'm manifesting peace in my
• 1:31:22
  life. Actually, I am manifesting that
• 1:31:23
  because I feel like I've been living such a chaotic few weeks,
• 1:31:25
  like genuinely so chaotic. And I just want, I just want a
• 1:31:30
  little bit of peace right now. Just.
• 1:31:33
  Manifest that peace, yes, calmness.
• 1:31:36
  Yes, I. Love that that'll come, that'll
• 1:31:39
  come. And you know what?
• 1:31:40
  Booked and busy. Love it actually.
• 1:31:43
  I'm actually hard manifesting the booked and busy.
• 1:31:44
  I love being booked and busy. I am a motherfucker that loves
• 1:31:48
  being distracted. So like, whatever it is, book
• 1:31:51
  me, I'm available. Whatever it.
• 1:31:55
  Is I'll make it happen, I'll do anything.
• 1:31:57
  Partial nudity, full nudity, fuck it, whatever.
• 1:32:00
  Full. Frontal.
• 1:32:01
  Fuck it, whatever, cast me, I'm available.
• 1:32:04
  Okay, we're manifesting all of that at least.
• 1:32:06
  This has been so fucking enjoyable.
• 1:32:08
  You're so fun. Thank you.
• 1:32:09
  So are you. This was literally insane and
• 1:32:12
  amazing. I was literally having me, I was
• 1:32:14
  telling you before we started, when you walked up onto set and
• 1:32:16
  I was like, I'm so excited. I watched some of your
• 1:32:19
  interviews and I was like, you were so fucking fun.
• 1:32:21
  And also you're really smart. Thank you.
• 1:32:23
  I love what you said. You said in your Buzz interview
• 1:32:25
  you were talking about genres and pop genres and like how they
• 1:32:28
  deviate. And I was like, yeah, no one
• 1:32:29
  talks about that, by the way. No one ever talks about that.
• 1:32:31
  So I love how you really got into it and you talked about
• 1:32:33
  that. We didn't talk about on the show
• 1:32:34
  either. But I love that you're just so
• 1:32:35
  smart and you're so fun. But thank.
• 1:32:37
  You so much. Besties, this was your healthy
• 1:32:39
  dose of delulu, so now you can go live your Halloween, Spooky
• 1:32:41
  Lulu's and Elise besties. Where can the besties find you?
• 1:32:46
  The besties can find me at Elise on all social media.
• 1:32:50
  It's just Elise and that's like all my social handles.
• 1:32:53
  And you can stream my album Pretty Evil anywhere you listen
• 1:32:57
  to music. And we're going to be getting
• 1:32:58
  ready for her upcoming tour in January and February.
• 1:33:02
  And sex tapes. Sex tapes tour.
• 1:33:05
  It's all happening booked and busy like we said.
• 1:33:08
  Manifested already besties happy Halloween if you love the show
• 1:33:11
  please rate it five stars on Spotify and be sure to follow
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  the show Elise and I will personally what's something evil
• 1:33:23
  we could do what's something pretty evil we could do we'll.
• 1:33:25
  Hex you? Hell yeah.
• 1:33:26
  We'll hex you. We're going to hex them.
• 1:33:29
  Yeah, I love it. You said it's.
• 1:33:32
  A little pretty. Evil.
• 1:33:33
  Pretty. Yeah.
• 1:33:33
  Yeah. But it'll be like a cute hex.
• 1:33:35
  It'll. Be a good one it'll.
• 1:33:36
  Be like We'll operate into your room like little ghosts.
• 1:33:39
  Oh, I'm so down for that. And do get.
• 1:33:42
  Get I love seeing people's homes.
• 1:33:44
  I love seeing people's homes. I'm mad nosey I.
• 1:33:46
  Thought it was a ghost. I'd just be pulling up on people
• 1:33:48
  in their house. Oh my God, let me see.
• 1:33:50
  What's in the kitchen? I'm the worst because like I
• 1:33:52
  will like go to people's places and I know I shouldn't do this,
• 1:33:53
  but I'm like, what's in this drawer?
• 1:33:55
  The. Medicine cabinet.
• 1:33:56
  I'm like, what? What trucks are you on?
• 1:33:58
  I'm the fucking, can I admit something right now?
• 1:34:00
  This is going to be so fucked up.
• 1:34:02
  This is actually a really fucked up confession.
• 1:34:04
  It's even worse because he's in the room right now.
• 1:34:06
  But when Jamiko moved in, he left his bags for maybe 30
• 1:34:12
  minutes. I don't know where he went.
• 1:34:13
  He went somewhere and I, I opened.
• 1:34:19
  I opened space. Right now.
• 1:34:23
  I opened the bags and then I went through like whatever pills
• 1:34:26
  he had and I asked Chachi PT what they were, what they were
• 1:34:30
  for. This is like the real tea.
• 1:34:37
  And then I texted him and I was like, I'm going through your
• 1:34:40
  stuff right now, why do you need these pills?
• 1:34:42
  And he's like, what are you talking about?
• 1:34:43
  I was like, I'm just kidding. I was like, I'm JK.
• 1:34:46
  He's going to start locking his door.
• 1:34:48
  Not like you weren't kidding. I was not kidding.
• 1:34:50
  I ChatGPT Ed. I was it was it was like normal
• 1:34:53
  stuff. It wasn't like anything crazy,
• 1:34:54
  you know what I mean? But.
• 1:34:55
  But if it was something crazy, that would have been so tea.
• 1:34:58
  That would have been tea. I would have been gas.
• 1:34:59
  That's. Why we're nosy?
• 1:35:00
  I was nosy. Yeah, literally.
• 1:35:02
  I'm not proud of it. Please follow me on all my
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• 1:35:12
  Bye.