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Freaks · Cuff’s Basement

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Speaker 1: In light of the ongoing litigation with Julia, I've been
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Speaker 1: advised by my attorneys that it is necessary for me
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Speaker 1: to issue this statement of apology regarding what transpired. I
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Speaker 1: recognize the seriousness of the situation and regret that these
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Speaker 1: circumstances have arisen. This statement is made in the interest
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Speaker 1: of addressing the matter appropriately while the legal proceedings remain ongoing.
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Speaker 1: It should not be interpreted as an admission of guilt, fault, liability,
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Speaker 1: or wrongdoing, and I will refrain from further comment while
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Speaker 1: the litigation continues. But I hope Julia will take this
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Speaker 1: apology to heart and not retain ownership of Cuff's basement. Whoa.
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Speaker 2: Didn't know that was part of it.
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Speaker 3: ¶ ¶ ¶.
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Speaker 1: ¶ Welcome back to Cuff's Basement. I am your host, Tim.
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Speaker 1: I'm with my co-host, Ryan.
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Speaker 2: Hey everyone.
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Speaker 1: And we have a very special guest that I don't
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Speaker 1: know the last time he's appeared on the pod. When
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Speaker 1: was the last time you appeared on the pod?
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Speaker 2: Was it? Long time. Was it Gangs of New York?
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Speaker 4: 2024.
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Speaker 3: Gangs of New York.
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Speaker 2: Was it that with Sean?
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Speaker 1: I think so.
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Speaker 3: I think so. I was trying to think because I
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Speaker 3: was like, I haven't done one since I moved or
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Speaker 3: beginning of last year. And then I was like, no,
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Speaker 3: I didn't do it.
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Speaker 2: The Buzzball Tournament as well. The same day.
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Speaker 1: It's someone who's also named Tim, not to confuse the listeners,
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Speaker 1: but he frequently goes by Pep. It is Tim Conley.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: Fuck is up, everybody. Happy to be back.
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Speaker 1: And we're rounding out Halloween. This is the first year
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Speaker 1: in the history of Cuss Basement we did a month
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Speaker 1: of Halloween without Ben.
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Speaker 2: It is sad. It is very sad.
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Speaker 1: But to be honest with you, I'm kind of over
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Speaker 1: the whole Ben thing.
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Speaker 2: As a human? Like, you're just done with him?
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Speaker 1: Well, him on the pod, him as a friend. It's
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Speaker 1: just like... Like, I looked... Trust me. I looked at
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Speaker 1: the clicks. They weren't there. So he's out.
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Speaker 2: That's a... I don't think we should go by that.
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Speaker 2: It's a big hole here. We need Ben.
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Speaker 3: It's a big hole here, Dan.
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Speaker 1: No, it's very sad. I'm sorry, Ben. We had just...
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Speaker 1: We had just planned these three movies for Halloween and
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Speaker 1: we're ending it with probably the highlight. But the plans
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Speaker 1: didn't incorporate Ben and I texted him at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of September saying this and I was like, I'm so sorry.
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Speaker 1: And Ben said, no, it's fine. You don't need to
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Speaker 1: apologize to me. But we are here for a very,
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Speaker 1: very special subject. It is the oldest movie we've ever done. Really?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, 1932, man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Kane is, what, 40?
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Speaker 1: 40-something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 3: So the listeners are going to love it. It's really relevant.
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Speaker 1: Well, I feel like so many of the pods begin
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Speaker 1: with me trying to justify why this is culturally relevant.
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Speaker 2: I'd say it's the length of a normal episode of
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Speaker 2: a show on Netflix, so that's probably pretty relevant. That
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Speaker 2: is true.
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Speaker 1: Citizen Kane is 41. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: This movie is from 1932. 32. And it is directed
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Speaker 1: by the one and only Todd Browning. We all know
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Speaker 1: he's like the Quentin Tarantino of his day.
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Speaker 3: I specifically said the reason it's been so long that
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Speaker 3: I've been back, I will only do Full House, which
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Speaker 3: we've exhausted a bit, Fresh Prince, Nick Cage, which we've
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Speaker 3: done a lot of Nick Cage content, or a Todd
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Speaker 3: Browning film.
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Speaker 1: A Todd Browning film. That was part of your deal.
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Speaker 1: Todd Browning was born in 1880. That's how old this
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Speaker 1: movie is.
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Speaker 2: So he stopped making movies in 1939.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Eight years after this movie.
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Speaker 3: Partially because of this movie.
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Speaker 1: Because this movie failed horribly. Yeah, this movie failed horribly.
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Speaker 1: We'll just say the title. It's the title of the
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Speaker 1: podcast episode. It is a movie. It is a little-known
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Speaker 1: film called Freaks. Yeah. And me and Pep have to
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Speaker 1: talk about our history of this movie. Now, Ryan, do
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Speaker 1: you have a history of this movie? Have you seen it?
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Speaker 2: I don't have a history with this movie specifically. This
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Speaker 2: is the first time I've ever seen it.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad it's this movie, though, because you guys
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Speaker 2: have a history with it. Also, this is my favorite
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Speaker 2: statistic of all time, and I told Tim this beforehand.
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Speaker 2: Tim Connolly, Pep, loves when I'm like, it's a movie
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Speaker 2: I've never seen, but I own the DVD.
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Speaker 1: You own the DVD of this.
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Speaker 2: I've owned the DVD of this for at least 15 years.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: And then I also actually own this on Blu-ray as well,
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Speaker 2: and I had just seen the movie for the first
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Speaker 2: time today. So I love that this statistic is for
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Speaker 2: a Pep episode. I'm really excited. Because he's just like, why?
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Speaker 3: Why on both levels? That was one of the Ask
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Speaker 3: Ryan Anything questions. I was so perplexed that you could
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Speaker 3: own so many movies having not seen them. Having never
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Speaker 3: seen them. It's a very foreign concept to many people.
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Speaker 1: And to start us off, I want to thank Craig.
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Speaker 1: He had some great episodes.
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Speaker 2: Very nice.
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Speaker 1: And he brought gifts, as did Pep. Nobody needs to
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Speaker 1: bring gifts, but I really appreciate that. Craig brought me
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Speaker 1: a very nice Irish whiskey that I've never had called Egan's.
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Speaker 1: Egan's Irish Whiskey. It's 45% alcohol, which is intense, but
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to open it here. Do you have the opener?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's rusty, though.
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Speaker 1: It's rusty. There's got to be a knife.
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Speaker 2: Should I grab my stuff, too, that I brought?
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Speaker 1: Oh, you have a gift?
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Speaker 2: I brought, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, get your gift.
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Speaker 3: Time-sensitive, he said.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, time-sensitive. It's moving. The bag is moving.
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Speaker 3: I guessed deviled eggs, but I was wrong.
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Speaker 1: Deviled eggs! I'm so inappropriate.
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Speaker 2: Oh, fuck.
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Speaker 3: Um... Why is it so hard?
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this podcast subject is very funny because naturally when
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Speaker 3: I'm privileged enough to join a Cust Basement pod and
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Speaker 3: people know I'm going on, they'll say, oh, what are
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Speaker 3: you covering? And in two parts of that, which are funny, one,
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Speaker 3: I have to explain that we're covering a 1932 movie
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Speaker 3: called Freaks. And then the second piece is people assume
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Speaker 3: I chose that because it's usually like I want to
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Speaker 3: come on to do this. And so everyone's like, what
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Speaker 3: made you choose Freaks?
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Speaker 1: What is this?
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Speaker 2: I made a mistake. I'll explain why. Let me just
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Speaker 2: grab the rest of it.
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Speaker 3: I believe you didn't want to drink.
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Speaker 1: This has been down here for like an hour.
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Speaker 2: It's in the freezer?
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Speaker 1: It's an iced, oh, it was in the freezer. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is this from Taco Bell? It is.
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Speaker 2: So we haven't done a fast food review. We did
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Speaker 2: the Spider-Man burger.
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Speaker 1: We did a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: We did one of the Whoppers that was like a
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Speaker 2: special Whopper.
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Speaker 1: Was it the black one?
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Speaker 2: Did we do that one?
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Speaker 1: I thought it was something else. I thought it was
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Speaker 1: the Spider-Man Whopper that was black. That made your poop green.
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Speaker 2: No, the Halloween Whopper was that. Spider-Man Whopper was red.
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Speaker 2: But I made a mistake with this one.
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Speaker 3: Why? Well.
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Speaker 2: It's not technically a meal. That's what bothers me. I
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Speaker 2: didn't realize that.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: So I got a notification on Google that one of
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Speaker 2: my favorite musical artists, Olivia Rodrigo, is doing a collab
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Speaker 2: with Taco Bell, which I thought was exhilarating to hear.
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Speaker 3: This is why you bought three of these. I was like,
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Speaker 3: all we can see so far is a bag from
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Speaker 3: Taco Bell and three gigantic drinks.
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Speaker 1: It says, you seem pretty pink for a... Baja Blast.
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Speaker 2: So it's a pink Baja Blast.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: So I got three of them.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was a meal.
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Speaker 2: So when I went to the drive-thru, I was like,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, I can't come here and not get food.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So they have a new item.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And it is the Diablo Nacho Fries. Oh. I thought
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Speaker 2: it would go great with Darcy's Pizza.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: You know who's the biggest fan on the pod right
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Speaker 1: now of Taco Bell is Pat.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: I literally texted with Ben yesterday about Taco Bell.
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Speaker 1: That's not bad at all.
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Speaker 2: Is it good? Not bad at all. At this point,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a meal.
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Speaker 1: It was not bad at all.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Ben primarily text about Vegas or Taco Bell.
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Speaker 1: What is in the wrapper?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I got excited, so I got a Gordita Crunch
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Speaker 2: when I was in LA.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: There's two in here if you guys want them. I don't.
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Speaker 1: Wait it's nacho fries you said yeah I'm just trying
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Speaker 1: to open them oh there's like cheese so it's like
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Speaker 1: nachos but there's no.
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Speaker 2: Chips it's hidden valley ranch diablo nacho fries I had
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Speaker 2: to do something I couldn't just do the sodas.
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Speaker 3: I've had um I've had one of their diablo things
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Speaker 3: how do you even there's steak on it yeah there's
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Speaker 3: like chunks of meat piece of steak eat.
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Speaker 2: Near the microphone.
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Speaker 1: Ooh those are spicy That's very good.
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
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Speaker 1: They are actually pretty good. They really are. Like, the
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Speaker 1: ranch sauce is really good.
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Speaker 3: Snug a napkin on that?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Can I have one, too?
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Speaker 2: The hot blast is really good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's one napkin.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I wasn't expecting this for freaks, but.
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Speaker 2: I mean, kind of perfect.
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Speaker 3: I also wasn't expecting this after eating the amount of
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Speaker 3: pizza I just ate.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I wish we had maybe known, or... I like
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Speaker 1: this better. It's for the pot.
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Speaker 3: It's for the pot.
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Speaker 1: It's for the pot. I understand that, and I respect that,
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Speaker 1: and you.
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Speaker 3: Tim, were you up till 4 a.m. last night?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I had 64 ounces of Baja Blast.
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Speaker 2: Also, what is the car part? I thought I could
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Speaker 2: fix it. Was it broken?
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Speaker 1: So, to add to the Baja Blast, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: try the whiskey that Craig got me.
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Speaker 2: You're going to pour it in it?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to pour the Irish whiskey into
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Speaker 1: the Baja Blast. But thank you, Craig. This podcast brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Craig Keg O'Coin.
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Speaker 2: Do you mind? Oh, sorry.
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Speaker 3: Ooh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to try some?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I brought you a little tasting glass.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Oh, sure. You don't want any, right?
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Speaker 3: I'm good. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Let's give it a shot.
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Speaker 1: I was having an N.A.
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Speaker 2: Guinness.
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Speaker 1: Tell me when.
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Speaker 2: That's good.
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Speaker 3: Yep. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Weed, N.A.s, and Baja Blast. Cheers.
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Speaker 1: It probably needs a little ice.
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Speaker 2: It's okay.
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Speaker 1: But I'm going to put some ice in it after
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Speaker 1: I have a sip.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: People are already so turned off by this podcast. They're eating.
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Speaker 1: They're having Baja Blast. They're having whiskey. What are we
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Speaker 1: talking about?
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Speaker 2: Cheers.
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Speaker 4: Cheers.
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Speaker 3: Hang in there, guys. We're talking about freaks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I want to hear this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Are they even pressing play?
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Speaker 1: Okay. It's not as bad as I thought. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's 45%. It's a little smoky.
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Speaker 2: Which is kind of nice, though.
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Speaker 1: But Irish whiskey is never smoky. It's almost, it's very scotch-like.
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Speaker 2: It's really her, that's the album, so I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to lie.
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Speaker 1: No, and I'm not saying it in a bad way, like,
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Speaker 1: Irish whiskey is never scotchy, and this is the scotchiest
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Speaker 1: Irish whiskey I've ever had, but I really like scotch.
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Speaker 2: So you would recommend this more of like a sifting
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Speaker 2: version more than.
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Speaker 1: Definitely don't take a shot of it, would be my advice.
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Speaker 3: I would sip it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm going to get an ice cube. The ice
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Speaker 1: cube won't fit in that glass.
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Speaker 2: I'm good, yeah.
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Speaker 1: This is fine.
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Speaker 2: This is fine. Please.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to pause for a second.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So, Pep, you know, he appreciates a good movie. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that you're as into movies as, like, me
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Speaker 1: or Ryan are. But you've always kind of been into
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Speaker 1: horror movies.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And when I was at Stonehill, my roommate was Pep.
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Speaker 1: I was an English and film major. And I told
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Speaker 1: Pep that one of the film classes I signed up
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Speaker 1: for was the History of Horror Films. And Pep was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I want to take that. Because, like, you know, it
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Speaker 1: was an elective. But if you have to take five
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Speaker 1: classes a semester or whatever, you're like, might as well
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Speaker 1: take the history of horror films. So you took it
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Speaker 1: with me. Was that freshman or sophomore year? I want
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Speaker 1: to say it was sophomore. I don't think it was freshman.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was sophomore.
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Speaker 1: But, like, some of the film classes fell in, like,
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Speaker 1: the English department. Some of the film classes, this one particularly,
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Speaker 1: fell in the history department. And it was taught by
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Speaker 1: a history professor who is a priest.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: Which is interesting. A Catholic priest was teaching the history
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Speaker 1: of horror films.
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Speaker 2: This is like Prince of Darkness. It's pretty interesting. Wow.
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Speaker 1: What's Prince of Darkness?
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Speaker 2: You guys ever seen that John Carpenter movie?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: They're like a college student who's like, they take a
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Speaker 2: college class and he's like, the priest is like a professor.
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Speaker 2: He's like, by the way, I have this like tube
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Speaker 2: of green gel that's pretty much Satan in the basement
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Speaker 2: of the school. And the whole movie's about like, okay,
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Speaker 2: when do we open this?
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Speaker 1: So, so what did you think about the class overall?
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Speaker 1: And I think we've told the story before, but do
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Speaker 1: you want to tell the imprint story?
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Speaker 3: Uh, sure. I don't remember if we have, but the
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Speaker 3: class itself, uh, was a classic case of a class
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Speaker 3: where the professor knows that people are taking it because
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Speaker 3: it sounds fun or sounds easy. And he chose to
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Speaker 3: make it just not fun and extremely hard. But he
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Speaker 3: would basically, we each class, I think it was one
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Speaker 3: of those scenarios where it's like a two and a
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Speaker 3: half hour class and you only have it.
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Speaker 2: Once a week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had, we had, there was like every class
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Speaker 1: at Stonehill, you could take it three. There were three options.
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Speaker 1: You take it twice a week. you take three times
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Speaker 1: a week, but they're really short, or you do once
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Speaker 1: a week, but it's, like, almost three hours. Yes. And
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Speaker 1: that was brutal to do once a week.
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Speaker 3: Yes. But, to be fair, this class's format, if I'm
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Speaker 3: remembering correctly, my brain's been through it over the last
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Speaker 3: 20 years, but that we would watch a movie one class,
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Speaker 3: and then, like, the following class would be, like, more lecture, more, like,
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. And then we would also, in between
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Speaker 3: those two weeks, he would give us, like, 500 pages
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Speaker 3: of reading material, and then give us an extremely challenging
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Speaker 3: five-question quiz.
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Speaker 1: So if you get two wrong, that's 60. So it
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Speaker 1: was a really hard class. Yeah, it was not, and
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Speaker 1: I did not do the reading. I don't remember how
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Speaker 1: I did it, but I did not do the reading. Well,
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Speaker 1: I got a really good grade on the paper, which
13:28
Speaker 1: we talked about, Henry.
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Speaker 3: I think the papers ended up being like 75%, and
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Speaker 3: the quizzes were like 25, something like that.
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Speaker 1: In Henry Porter of a Serial Killer, I talked about
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Speaker 1: how I got an A on that paper in the
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Speaker 1: Henry pod. That's the same class.
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Speaker 2: By the way, releasing a new giant 4K set of Henry,
13:43
Speaker 2: Power of the Pod.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Power of the Pod.
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Speaker 2: Also, 40th anniversary, I think, too.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, 30th. Go ahead. But the imprint story, so one
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Speaker 3: of the classes, we're supposed to take a quiz. He
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Speaker 3: comes in. He says, the professor, we're not taking the
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Speaker 3: quiz today. We're not going to do the quiz. I
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Speaker 3: got my hands on this movie that basically was outlawed,
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Speaker 3: and I got my hands on a copy. We're going
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Speaker 3: to watch this movie. And it was called Imprint that
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Speaker 3: Takashi Miike, is that the name of the director?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 3: So like the audition is the famous horror film that
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Speaker 3: this Japanese director did.
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Speaker 1: And the audition is entirely Japanese in Japanese. This was
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Speaker 1: like an American production.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and it was for a series.
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Speaker 1: Masters of Horror was a series on Showtime, I believe,
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Speaker 1: where each episode... was directed by a legendary horror director.
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Speaker 1: So there was like the Chainsaw Massacre. It's a great idea.
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Speaker 2: Oh, great idea.
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Speaker 1: Chainsaw Massacre guy, John Carpenter, I think did an episode maybe,
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Speaker 1: but Takashi Miike did an episode.
14:43
Speaker 3: R.L. Stine.
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Speaker 2: R.L.
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Speaker 3: Stine. But so this particular episode, they were like, no,
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Speaker 3: we're not putting this on.
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Speaker 1: Showtime, which is completely uncensored. They have like porn on Showtime.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Showtime was puking in the back. So our professor goes,
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Speaker 3: hands on this, we watched this movie, it's like two
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Speaker 3: hours long, it's the most horrific thing. I mean, I've
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Speaker 3: never seen Sala, but it's just extremely graphic torture scenes.
15:08
Speaker 3: Some really graphic manual abortion scenes.
15:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough.
15:12
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it was really intense. And then when it ended,
15:15
Speaker 3: everyone was just kind of sitting in silence, and he said,
15:18
Speaker 3: I believe, like, don't tell anyone you saw that. Yeah.
15:21
Speaker 3: He was like, and everyone left as if we were
15:22
Speaker 3: leaving like a funeral filed out.
15:25
Speaker 2: I wrote the class.
15:26
Speaker 1: He said, he said like, please tell no one this happened. Um,
15:30
Speaker 1: that was his message.
15:31
Speaker 2: So he like, I pushed this too far.
15:32
Speaker 3: But, but so drunkenly, um, drunkenly one night I, I
15:37
Speaker 3: was like, I'm going to, I went on like eBay
15:39
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm going to buy imprint. And
15:42
Speaker 3: Tim was like, why are you buying it? Like, why
15:44
Speaker 3: would you ever want to watch that again? And I
15:45
Speaker 3: was like, It just feels like, you know, it was
15:48
Speaker 3: a Ryan moment. Like, it felt like I'm owning this, like,
15:52
Speaker 3: barred part of history. And so I bought it. I
15:55
Speaker 3: watched it with, like, two friends from back home, and
15:58
Speaker 3: they were just like, this is awful and stupid. And
16:01
Speaker 3: then the final piece of this story was that, so
16:04
Speaker 3: it was at my house in Townsend where... at my
16:08
Speaker 3: parents house during a summer of college so then when
16:10
Speaker 3: I went back to college I had like left it
16:13
Speaker 3: there and my dad's a horror fan so he saw
16:15
Speaker 3: this movie and chose to pop it in and then
16:18
Speaker 3: I don't think he's probably ever thought of me the
16:20
Speaker 3: same again Because it's like my son chose to buy
16:23
Speaker 3: this movie, and I had to try to fight and give, like, no, no, see,
16:27
Speaker 3: I was just drunk. He just popped it in, though.
16:29
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.
16:30
Speaker 3: He did, yeah. He was like, I saw this.
16:31
Speaker 1: He's probably like, I trust his judgment.
16:33
Speaker 2: My dad won't go past, I think, the fourth Harry
16:36
Speaker 2: Potter and thought the Dark Knight on television was too scary.
16:39
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you.
16:40
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Ryan loves this story, but my dad,
16:42
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, regaled me. It was like
16:45
Speaker 1: if my dad went to Vietnam and he was telling
16:47
Speaker 1: me about a battle where he had to, like, bayonet
16:49
Speaker 1: a guy through his eye. My dad told me the
16:52
Speaker 1: story of the first time he saw Alien 3.
16:55
Speaker 2: I love his, he saw Alien 3. Probably did not
16:58
Speaker 2: see one or two.
16:58
Speaker 3: No, no.
16:59
Speaker 1: And he was like, and then at the end, because
17:02
Speaker 1: she knows she's pregnant with the alien, she jumps into
17:05
Speaker 1: a vat of molten lead. And then my mom in
17:08
Speaker 1: the background said, are you talking about that movie again?
17:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:12
Speaker 2: I think the movie's tone is just so down. He
17:16
Speaker 2: can't imagine it's real.
17:17
Speaker 1: He would hate it.
17:18
Speaker 2: He would want nothing to do with it. Stay far
17:19
Speaker 2: away from it.
17:20
Speaker 3: When is this going to get positive?
17:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the famous Leaving Las Vegas thing. What are
17:24
Speaker 1: you and Eric watching? Oh, we're watching Leaving Las Vegas? Oh, no, no, no.
17:28
Speaker 1: You don't want to watch that.
17:29
Speaker 2: First night I ever met Pep. We watched Leaving Las Vegas.
17:33
Speaker 2: We started at like 2 a.m.? not kidding you because
17:36
Speaker 2: you were like are you guys alright no because I
17:38
Speaker 2: had to go to work the next day and it
17:39
Speaker 2: was four and I love hilarious response I'm like I
17:43
Speaker 2: gotta go I gotta go to work and you didn't
17:45
Speaker 2: have to stand up just come on like it was
17:47
Speaker 2: a joke.
17:49
Speaker 1: So in this horror class we had to watch this
17:51
Speaker 1: movie that I had never heard of at the time
17:53
Speaker 1: really it was called Freaks and it was from 1932
17:57
Speaker 1: and you're gonna think that I'm crazy but this is
18:00
Speaker 1: actually culturally relevant it was a very big deal um
18:05
Speaker 1: And I, like, I hated it so much at the time.
18:10
Speaker 1: And we'll get into why it specifically made me so uncomfortable. But, like,
18:14
Speaker 1: I kind of.
18:16
Speaker 3: It's so hard to make you uncomfortable, too. That's why
18:18
Speaker 3: I love this. Exactly.
18:19
Speaker 2: I was kind of baffled by that, watching it, to
18:20
Speaker 2: be honest with you.
18:21
Speaker 1: You didn't understand why it made me uncomfortable? Oh, I just.
18:25
Speaker 1: Watching it this time, I liked it more. We'll talk
18:29
Speaker 1: about it, but Solo is a tough watch, but it
18:32
Speaker 1: doesn't make me uncomfortable to talk about. I kind of
18:34
Speaker 1: love it, and happiness, I kind of love. This is just,
18:38
Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't want to be a
18:41
Speaker 1: part of this. It's like the Super Dave line when
18:44
Speaker 1: he was on Norm Macdonald's show. I'm not a part
18:46
Speaker 1: of this, when he makes a slavery joke.
18:49
Speaker 3: I also was going to say, this is like a,
18:52
Speaker 3: this is a slippery slope movie to cover. Uh, like
18:54
Speaker 3: can't cancel culture time. Like I thought your, uh, culture
18:58
Speaker 3: wars pods have been probably still number one, but this
19:01
Speaker 3: is like up there for you.
19:02
Speaker 1: You gotta, we gotta, I think we can be delicate
19:04
Speaker 1: about it. And I think that, um, and you, you
19:06
Speaker 1: might deny this. Maybe it was more of like a,
19:09
Speaker 1: because you knew this movie made me so uncomfortable.
19:11
Speaker 2: This place is crazy and deranged. And then like about,
19:14
Speaker 2: and I thought the movie's gonna be about how the
19:16
Speaker 2: world treats them. And like, isn't this so sad and awful,
19:19
Speaker 2: but you, You're just with the circus group the whole time.
19:22
Speaker 2: You're really just in there the whole time. You don't
19:23
Speaker 2: really leave.
19:24
Speaker 1: Right.
19:24
Speaker 2: But I think it's great because we'll get to it,
19:27
Speaker 2: but like when things do turn, you're like, oh, this
19:30
Speaker 2: is not good at all. It's like, okay.
19:32
Speaker 1: So let me read some more historical context. Filmed in
19:34
Speaker 1: Los Angeles in 1931, some employees at MGM were so
19:37
Speaker 1: discomforted by the presence of the actors portraying the freaks
19:40
Speaker 1: on set, other than the so-called normal-looking freaks. For an example,
19:45
Speaker 1: the conjoined twins. The performers were not allowed to be
19:48
Speaker 1: on the studio lot at all, relegated to a specially
19:50
Speaker 1: built tent for them. The film had test screenings.
19:53
Speaker 3: I feel very at home.
19:55
Speaker 1: That's true. That's circus tent.
19:56
Speaker 3: Good point.
19:56
Speaker 1: The film had test screenings in 1932, with many members
19:59
Speaker 1: of the audience reacting negatively, finding the film grotesque. In
20:03
Speaker 1: response to this, MGM executive Irving Thalberg, without consent of
20:07
Speaker 1: Todd Browning, edited the 90-minute feature... to be about an
20:10
Speaker 1: hour long, with alternative footage incorporated to help increase the
20:14
Speaker 1: running time. The final abridged cut was 64 minutes. The
20:19
Speaker 1: original version no longer exists. It was completely lost. In 1932,
20:22
Speaker 1: MGM held... Brian might have it. MGM held test screenings
20:27
Speaker 1: of the film, which proved disastrous.
20:31
Speaker 3: No.
20:31
Speaker 1: Some recall that halfway through the preview, a lot of
20:33
Speaker 1: people got up and ran out. I'm saying they didn't
20:35
Speaker 1: walk out, they ran. That's a quote. Others reportedly became
20:39
Speaker 1: ill or fainted. One woman who attended the screening threatened
20:41
Speaker 1: to sue MGM. The truncated version, now only 64 minutes,
20:45
Speaker 1: had its premiere at the Fox Criterion in L.A. in 1932.
20:50
Speaker 1: The film attracted controversy upon its release. It was pulled
20:53
Speaker 1: from screenings in Atlanta. In the U.K., it was banned
20:56
Speaker 1: by the British censors and remained so for 30 years
20:59
Speaker 1: until it was re-released in 1963 with an X rating
21:03
Speaker 1: in England. This is rated X.
21:05
Speaker 2: I don't think Clockwork Orange came back out in England
21:07
Speaker 2: until 2001. I'm not even kidding you. They're very super strict.
21:13
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Did you know what the lawsuit was?
21:16
Speaker 1: Because she said she had a miscarriage as a result. Yes.
21:20
Speaker 1: Because she was so horrified with the movie, she had
21:21
Speaker 1: a miscarriage. Though it received critical backlash and was a
21:24
Speaker 1: box office bomb upon its release, Freaks was subject to
21:27
Speaker 1: public and critical reappraisal in the 1960s. considered a long-forgotten
21:32
Speaker 1: Hollywood classic and was screened at the 1962 Venice Film Festival.
21:37
Speaker 1: In retrospect, numerous film critics have suggested the film presents
21:40
Speaker 1: a starkly sympathetic portrait of Sideshow characters rather than one
21:45
Speaker 1: exploiting them. One critic declared Freaks one of the, quote,
21:57
Speaker 1: In 2009, one critic proclaimed that Freaks contained some of
21:59
Speaker 1: the most terrifying scenes in film history. Film scholars have
22:02
Speaker 1: interpreted the film as a metaphor for class conflict, the
22:06
Speaker 1: Great Depression. It has been studied for its portrayal of
22:09
Speaker 1: people with disabilities, an anti-eugenics message. The film is considered
22:13
Speaker 1: highly influential, a cult classic, and in 1994, it was
22:17
Speaker 1: preserved by the United States National Film Registry and deemed culturally, historically,
22:23
Speaker 1: and aesthetically significant. Let's go.
22:25
Speaker 3: Good.
22:26
Speaker 1: Let's go.
22:28
Speaker 3: So should we do advice?
22:29
Speaker 1: We should do advice. My first note is, thank God
22:33
Speaker 1: this is an hour.
22:34
Speaker 3: My first note was, well, I wrote, I have so
22:37
Speaker 3: much writing on this.
22:39
Speaker 2: I have so much writing on this.
22:43
Speaker 3: I then wrote, just typing Freaks Where to Watch and
22:46
Speaker 3: seeing the second pre-fill as Freaks 1932 Where to Watch,
22:49
Speaker 3: I thought, what is my life? And then I wrote,
22:52
Speaker 3: fuck the 2018 Freaks. Because there was a movie in
22:56
Speaker 3: 2018 called Freaks that was on like every service. And
22:59
Speaker 3: I would get excited thinking this movie was on there.
23:02
Speaker 3: And it was the other one.
23:03
Speaker 1: Tubi let me down. Tubi had Freaks on it. And
23:05
Speaker 1: then it said like no longer available. But I also
23:08
Speaker 1: checked because, Eric, you can call in if you're listening
23:12
Speaker 1: about copyright. But I was like, isn't this Public Domain?
23:15
Speaker 1: It's from like almost 100 years ago. And it said
23:17
Speaker 1: that it will be Public Domain January 1st of 2028.
23:21
Speaker 1: And I was like, ah, we just missed it. We
23:23
Speaker 1: just missed it.
23:24
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still probably... I mean, it's probably not
23:28
Speaker 2: as good quality, but there's probably pretty significant chunks of
23:30
Speaker 2: this on YouTube for you to put it together if
23:32
Speaker 2: you wanted to. Yeah, probably.
23:34
Speaker 1: I just paid the rental fee.
23:35
Speaker 2: Or just buy it twice on physical media. 45 bucks.
23:37
Speaker 1: Buy it twice on physical media. Yeah, so we can
23:43
Speaker 1: get into the movie now. Is there anything you want
23:44
Speaker 1: to talk about before we actually get into the real movie?
23:48
Speaker 1: Do you know.
23:49
Speaker 2: I'm actually glad this is fitting again. Do you know
23:51
Speaker 2: about the whole Ramones connection?
23:53
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I do. So, um, what's the song though?
23:57
Speaker 2: I forget which exact song, but there's a chant for
23:59
Speaker 2: Gabba Gabba Hey. Yeah.
24:00
Speaker 1: One of us, one of us.
24:02
Speaker 2: And then, then they all will always have one of
24:04
Speaker 2: their roadies dress up as one of the quote unquote
24:07
Speaker 2: pinheads and then dance on the stage. Um, cause the
24:11
Speaker 2: Ramones documentary.
24:12
Speaker 1: Watched, they're just big fans of the film.
24:14
Speaker 2: Big fan. They're actually very, uh, very big horror fans. Um,
24:18
Speaker 2: not surprised, but, uh, The documentary we talked about in
24:20
Speaker 2: the show, where it films their last concert, that the
24:24
Speaker 2: footage is of the guy dressed as the pinhead dancing
24:28
Speaker 2: on the stage and the crowd chanting, and they just
24:30
Speaker 2: walk away. Okay.
24:33
Speaker 3: Well, before we get into the actual movie, do you
24:36
Speaker 3: want a few more fun Todd Browning facts?
24:38
Speaker 1: I do. Very much so.
24:40
Speaker 3: So, very critical to this conversation. When he was 16...
24:45
Speaker 3: before finishing high school, he ran away to join the
24:48
Speaker 3: traveling circus.
24:49
Speaker 1: Oh, so maybe that's why.
24:50
Speaker 3: So he was actually in the traveling circus for 13 years.
24:54
Speaker 3: And so he started as just, like, setting up stuff,
24:57
Speaker 3: and then he was, like, actually a barker, which is the, like,
25:01
Speaker 3: promo guy. Yeah, cutting promos. Yeah, he, like, worked his
25:04
Speaker 3: way all the way up to bearded lady. Now, I
25:06
Speaker 3: don't know, like, what he, like, ended with, but he
25:10
Speaker 3: got out and got into film. And then the only
25:12
Speaker 3: other thing I have was I think it was like
25:14
Speaker 3: during his silent movie era, he, or no, he started
25:18
Speaker 3: as an actor. I think it was like during that
25:19
Speaker 3: time he was driving drunk and hit a train. in
25:24
Speaker 3: a fucking train and one of the one of like
25:27
Speaker 3: his friends or people in the car died which I
25:30
Speaker 3: was thinking.
25:30
Speaker 1: Like today no seatbelts um yeah.
25:32
Speaker 3: I was just thinking like today he's in jail for
25:34
Speaker 3: the rest of his life but not in the 1920s.
25:36
Speaker 1: They said like hey that's what they did back then
25:39
Speaker 1: keep your eyes off of those trains and also what
25:42
Speaker 1: do you think of this script for Dracula.
25:44
Speaker 3: So then that they're saying obviously like you killed your
25:46
Speaker 3: friend that's gonna make you a little darker a little
25:49
Speaker 3: more goth and that led to uh some of his
25:52
Speaker 3: influences okay that's all I'm talking about Wow, that's fun.
25:56
Speaker 3: This whole pod's just going to be a lot of
25:58
Speaker 3: uplifting fun.
26:00
Speaker 1: So the movie starts with a carnival barker cutting a
26:04
Speaker 1: promo about the freak show at this carnival.
26:09
Speaker 3: Now knowing the history of Todd Browning, it's surprising he
26:13
Speaker 3: didn't want to cast himself for that role.
26:15
Speaker 1: A lot of the Quentin Tarantino does that. He would
26:18
Speaker 1: cast himself as somebody who sucks on feet.
26:19
Speaker 2: It's better.
26:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is better.
26:21
Speaker 2: Just have someone else do it.
26:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, have somebody else do it. And the carnival barker
26:26
Speaker 1: is saying that there is this woman that used to
26:29
Speaker 1: be the most beautiful woman in the world, but now
26:32
Speaker 1: she's in this pen. And there's sort of like an
26:33
Speaker 1: animal pen with like a two-foot high wall. And he goes,
26:38
Speaker 1: just look in here and see what she is now.
26:40
Speaker 1: And they don't show it, but people look in and
26:43
Speaker 1: one woman like screams, like blood-curdling scream. Like it's the
26:46
Speaker 1: worst thing you've ever seen in your life.
26:48
Speaker 3: She sure does.
26:49
Speaker 1: And they never show it. They cut away right into
26:53
Speaker 1: the circus.
26:53
Speaker 2: I love the description. She was once a beautiful woman.
26:56
Speaker 2: A royal prince shot himself for.
26:58
Speaker 1: The love of her. Yes.
26:59
Speaker 2: She was known as a peacock of the year.
27:02
Speaker 1: Peacock of the year. She is the... It cuts to, like, now,
27:06
Speaker 1: back in time, what she used to be. She was
27:09
Speaker 1: a trapeze artist in the circus.
27:11
Speaker 2: Right?
27:11
Speaker 3: Yep.
27:12
Speaker 2: Yes.
27:12
Speaker 3: And the barter also, kind of, like, critically, he sets
27:16
Speaker 3: up the idea of you're about to see quote unquote,
27:21
Speaker 3: like you're going to see the most, well, I don't
27:24
Speaker 3: remember exactly what he says, but it's just like, if,
27:27
Speaker 3: if not by the grace of God, you might've been
27:29
Speaker 3: one of them. Like there's a lot of like, he's,
27:31
Speaker 3: he's really selling it. Yeah.
27:32
Speaker 1: Cause really a lot of these people, it's like you
27:35
Speaker 1: could have been born this way, but you weren't.
27:37
Speaker 2: It's the tapestry in the opening of Midsommar. We're telling
27:40
Speaker 2: you what's going to happen before you even start watching it.
27:43
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:43
Speaker 1: And you're, it's, it's similar to Midsommar and it's, it's, uh,
27:47
Speaker 1: how horrifying it is.
27:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:50
Speaker 1: And now it cuts back in time, so there's this
27:52
Speaker 1: beautiful trapeze artist named Cleo, and there are two little
27:57
Speaker 1: people who are watching Cleo at the circus. They work
28:01
Speaker 1: for the circus. Their names are Hans and Frida.
28:03
Speaker 3: Hans.
28:03
Speaker 1: And I believe they're brother and sister in real life.
28:05
Speaker 2: They're brother and sister in real life.
28:06
Speaker 1: They were part of the doll family was their stage name.
28:09
Speaker 2: Yes, so there was four people in this family, and
28:13
Speaker 2: they would tour as, paint themselves, and they'd act like
28:17
Speaker 2: moving dolls.
28:18
Speaker 3: Yes.
28:19
Speaker 2: And, of course, in the 20s and 30s, people probably
28:22
Speaker 2: thought that was real before they believed they were actual people.
28:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:26
Speaker 2: And that was, like, their claim to fame.
28:29
Speaker 1: And I felt bad for them because, again, this is, like,
28:31
Speaker 1: that delicate tightrope that Pep is talking about getting canceled.
28:34
Speaker 1: Little people, like, Peter Dinklage does not look like a child. Like,
28:38
Speaker 1: little people do not look like children.
28:39
Speaker 3: No, and there's a little person in this movie that I, like,
28:43
Speaker 3: looked a lot like, maybe we met? I was just thinking, like,
28:46
Speaker 3: He very much looks like just a short, really short man.
28:49
Speaker 2: Yes.
28:50
Speaker 1: You know, versus a child. Whereas Hans and, Hans looks
28:53
Speaker 1: like a little boy.
28:54
Speaker 3: Yes.
28:54
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's gotta be kind of tough to
28:56
Speaker 1: go through life looking like that.
28:57
Speaker 2: But I think, again, for a movie made in 1932,
29:00
Speaker 2: though it's dramatically very blatant, they address that in this
29:07
Speaker 2: next scene or the next part. Like, he says that, like.
29:09
Speaker 3: Would you say Hans is the, that this movie is
29:12
Speaker 3: about Hans?
29:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. This movie, like, kind of
29:16
Speaker 1: doesn't have a main character, but Hans would be the
29:19
Speaker 1: main character. There's sort of like four main characters.
29:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:23
Speaker 1: It's like kind of, kind of Hans, kind of Cleo,
29:26
Speaker 1: maybe kind of sort of like Froso.
29:28
Speaker 3: But Hans gets like first scene, last scene.
29:31
Speaker 2: Yes. Also like he's a big plot element too as well.
29:35
Speaker 1: That's actually extremely progressive of this movie to have Hans
29:38
Speaker 1: be the main character.
29:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:41
Speaker 2: I picture prediction, part two ending, everyone's in tears. This
29:44
Speaker 2: is the best movie ever. Tell everyone you've seen it.
29:46
Speaker 2: I'll just send everybody a copy of the Criterion trilogy.
29:50
Speaker 2: We're good.
29:51
Speaker 1: And you meet some other people at the circus. There's
29:53
Speaker 1: a muscle man named Hercules.
29:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:56
Speaker 5: And i i love like the idea this is old
29:59
Speaker 5: school idea that lasted until maybe the 80s when um
30:03
Speaker 5: where like you were just really strong and um unbeatable
30:07
Speaker 5: in a fight if you were tall yeah and you
30:09
Speaker 5: remember jaws from golden eye of course he in the
30:12
Speaker 5: longest yard he's.
30:13
Speaker 1: Portrayed as like this toughest scariest strongest dude but it's
30:16
Speaker 1: like that guy could barely walk just because you're tall
30:18
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything happy gilmore Yes, exactly. But in the 80s,
30:23
Speaker 1: that's when people started learning about martial arts and everybody
30:26
Speaker 1: was on steroids, so it was a lot different. But
30:28
Speaker 1: Hercules is just basically very tall. I don't think he's
30:31
Speaker 1: really like a muscle man. He's not in bad shape.
30:34
Speaker 3: Jealous.
30:35
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. I just see Joe and Andy like nodding. Yes,
30:39
Speaker 1: that's exactly, yes. But there's a man with no lower body. Janiac? Sorry, what?
30:48
Speaker 2: Janiac.
30:49
Speaker 1: Johnny Eck?
30:50
Speaker 3: That's the name of the man.
30:51
Speaker 2: The man who has no beyond the waist.
30:54
Speaker 1: No beyond the waist.
30:55
Speaker 3: Yes.
30:55
Speaker 1: Okay. And he's wearing gloves to walk on his hands.
30:58
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different little people. There is my
31:02
Speaker 1: goat of the movie, Prince Randian. Ryan, will you describe
31:05
Speaker 1: Prince Randian?
31:06
Speaker 2: So he is a man with no arms, no legs,
31:10
Speaker 2: and a very small torso.
31:12
Speaker 1: I think he's called the Living Torso.
31:14
Speaker 3: Yes.
31:14
Speaker 1: That is his nickname.
31:15
Speaker 3: Pillow Man's another.
31:17
Speaker 1: He's also the only non-white person in this movie.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yes, I think so.
31:23
Speaker 1: And he also has pierced ears, which I thought was
31:25
Speaker 1: very unusual for the time.
31:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fascinating about him in the documentary, too. His son
31:31
Speaker 2: worked with him on the movie, and his son would
31:33
Speaker 2: carry him around.
31:35
Speaker 1: He had a son?
31:36
Speaker 2: He was married. He was married. There's such glossing right
31:41
Speaker 2: over that. Yeah, right?
31:44
Speaker 1: He was born this way, right?
31:45
Speaker 2: I didn't say it.
31:47
Speaker 1: I hope so. Otherwise, what a traumatic accident.
31:50
Speaker 3: If he was born that way, I don't see how
31:52
Speaker 3: he could have a kid.
31:53
Speaker 1: I mean, he could.
31:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:56
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you lay there and I'll do this.
31:59
Speaker 3: Let's get Shannon down here.
32:02
Speaker 2: Shannon, what's in the pillow? So they just said, like,
32:05
Speaker 2: he actually was one of the more financially successful people
32:07
Speaker 2: before the movie started. He would, like, tour, do shows.
32:11
Speaker 3: Tour.
32:11
Speaker 2: So his son would carry him.
32:13
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to see Prince Randy on Friday.
32:15
Speaker 2: But they said he... He realized he had to provide
32:20
Speaker 2: for his family. So like they said, like he was
32:21
Speaker 2: incredibly functional. Like he just, as you see in this
32:25
Speaker 2: movie a little bit later, he can move.
32:27
Speaker 1: I mean like he can move.
32:29
Speaker 2: So like, um, yeah.
32:33
Speaker 3: He's the most jarring by far, I would say.
32:37
Speaker 1: I would disagree with that. Not by far. I don't
32:44
Speaker 1: think you're crazy for saying that, but I wouldn't say
32:45
Speaker 1: by far. I want to hear who's in the mess.
32:50
Speaker 1: Then there's this French guy who's talking to, is it
32:53
Speaker 1: a police officer?
32:55
Speaker 2: This scene I wrote, this is the meanest thing I've
32:58
Speaker 2: ever seen.
32:58
Speaker 1: So describe what happened.
32:59
Speaker 2: They just cut to a completely unrelated scene.
33:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:03
Speaker 2: Where it's a, I just described it as two French
33:06
Speaker 2: guys walking through like a public park field.
33:09
Speaker 3: Oh.
33:10
Speaker 2: And the guy's like, I've seen these people around here.
33:12
Speaker 2: A lot of horrible twisted things. You know, crawling, whining, laughing.
33:17
Speaker 2: And they just cut to the three pinheads. Johnny Yak. Yep. To.
33:27
Speaker 3: I appreciate Johnny.
33:28
Speaker 2: What's that? Prince. Prince Didion.
33:32
Speaker 1: Randian.
33:33
Speaker 2: Randian, sorry.
33:35
Speaker 1: What is.
33:36
Speaker 2: Angelino, one of the bird girls. And then Edith, the
33:41
Speaker 2: crawling girl. So the guy's like, oh, this is who
33:44
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
33:45
Speaker 3: And the....
33:47
Speaker 2: Like, the guy's like, okay. And they're there with the main...
33:52
Speaker 2: I don't know how to describe her. I got the
33:54
Speaker 2: impression she was in charge of the circus, but she's not. Tetralani?
33:59
Speaker 1: Tetralini? Tetralini.
34:00
Speaker 2: And she's like, Oh, we're just going outside. No big deal.
34:05
Speaker 2: Get these monsters out of here.
34:06
Speaker 1: I wrote a quote. He said, they're children. He says,
34:11
Speaker 1: they're not children. They're monsters. You should lock them away
34:14
Speaker 1: or smother them at birth.
34:17
Speaker 2: Whoa.
34:18
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, and after we get
34:21
Speaker 3: through the movie, I'm curious, just from two people that
34:24
Speaker 3: know more about movies and stuff, of acting in the
34:28
Speaker 3: 30s was just so... over the top it's just like
34:31
Speaker 3: we've progressed and we've gotten better like at everything including
34:34
Speaker 3: acting i'm guessing.
34:35
Speaker 1: Yeah i think it comes from vaudeville where like you're
34:38
Speaker 1: you're projecting you're wearing crazy makeup and you're projecting to
34:41
Speaker 1: an audience that's like 100 feet away from you so
34:43
Speaker 1: you're talking like this and like whoa in.
34:46
Speaker 3: This scenario she she's talking like a normal person she
34:49
Speaker 3: says like please monsieur like they're just children and he
34:52
Speaker 3: goes like children they're monsters!
34:55
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa.
34:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:58
Speaker 1: There's a great, what's the guy's name, the alcoholic who
35:01
Speaker 1: was in Gladiator, Oliver... Oliver Reed. Oliver Reed. There's a
35:04
Speaker 1: great Bill Hader line where he's like, I was watching
35:07
Speaker 1: an interview with Oliver Reed and I was like crying
35:09
Speaker 1: laughing at what he said. Somebody said, what's the difference
35:11
Speaker 1: between the theater and a movie? He said, in the theater,
35:14
Speaker 1: you have to be big. Somebody grabs your arm, you go, ah!
35:17
Speaker 1: In a film, if somebody grabs your arm, you go, mmm!
35:21
Speaker 3: Um.
35:22
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I understand what you're saying, Pep, and I
35:24
Speaker 1: think that is a good point. So I think that, like,
35:26
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I hate this movie so much,
35:28
Speaker 1: or hated this movie so much... Is the pinheads. Is
35:31
Speaker 1: the pinheads. And we're going to call them pinheads because
35:33
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to call them in this movie,
35:34
Speaker 1: but it's considered a non-PC term. The disease is called microcephaly.
35:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:39
Speaker 1: And it is a medical condition involving a smaller-than-normal head.
35:43
Speaker 1: It is present at birth or may develop in the
35:45
Speaker 1: first few years of life. Brain development is affected... People
35:48
Speaker 1: with this disorder have intellectual disability, poor motor function, poor speech,
35:52
Speaker 1: abnormal facial features, seizures, and dwarfism. The disorder is caused
35:56
Speaker 1: by a disruption to the genetic processes that form the
35:59
Speaker 1: brain early in pregnancy. Though the cause is not identified
36:02
Speaker 1: in most cases, many genetic syndromes can result in this,
36:06
Speaker 1: including chromosomal and single gene conditions, though almost always in
36:10
Speaker 1: combination with other symptoms. Mutations that result solely in this
36:14
Speaker 1: exist but are less common. external toxins to the embryo,
36:17
Speaker 1: such as alcohol during pregnancy, or vertically transmitted infections like Zika.
36:22
Speaker 1: Remember the Zika virus?
36:23
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
36:23
Speaker 1: One of the big Zika things was to cause children
36:25
Speaker 1: to be pinheads. It can result in microcephaly. So I
36:28
Speaker 1: just hate... And I don't think that this movie is
36:31
Speaker 1: really exploiting them, but I just, like, I don't want
36:35
Speaker 1: to see a movie that has characters starring in it
36:40
Speaker 1: that are mentally disabled from, like, a birth condition... Where
36:44
Speaker 1: it makes them deformed and they can't speak. It's just
36:51
Speaker 1: really like just icky to me.
36:54
Speaker 3: But so these like. were in, literally, Traveling Circus.
36:58
Speaker 1: Yes.
36:59
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like... Todd Browning's not doing any
37:02
Speaker 3: worse by having them in this movie.
37:03
Speaker 2: He's like, take somebody out of their house. It's not like, yeah.
37:05
Speaker 1: And when I say it's icky to me, I don't mean, like,
37:08
Speaker 1: I don't want to see them get them away. Like,
37:10
Speaker 1: I mean, like.
37:10
Speaker 3: It's absolutely part of it.
37:12
Speaker 1: Well, that's part of it. That's part of it. But
37:13
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean more like, this is a
37:15
Speaker 1: horror movie, and using that as a horror element makes
37:20
Speaker 1: me really uncomfortable.
37:21
Speaker 3: That's the whole challenge with this film.
37:22
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I would get that more if...
37:26
Speaker 2: what we see later in the ending was the tone
37:28
Speaker 2: of this movie.
37:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:29
Speaker 2: Which is not. They spend a lot, like, again, like
37:32
Speaker 2: I said, this scene's kind of mean to the, like,
37:34
Speaker 2: this is the only really time we're out of the circus, like, view.
37:38
Speaker 2: And it's like, hey, I mean, maybe the movie's trying
37:40
Speaker 2: to tell you, like, this is how you're going to
37:42
Speaker 2: react to this. I was going to say. Maybe it's
37:44
Speaker 2: preparing you. But, like, what does, what is wonderful about
37:47
Speaker 2: this scene is what does Madame say?
37:51
Speaker 1: Madame Teterlini?
37:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:53
Speaker 1: She says, like, they're children, that they're my children or something.
37:55
Speaker 2: But also, when the Frenchman's like, I told you, like,
37:58
Speaker 2: don't be afraid. Told them. She's like, I told you
38:01
Speaker 2: guys to not be afraid. Like, you deserve to be here. Yeah.
38:03
Speaker 2: That's what people do. And she's like, God loves all children,
38:07
Speaker 2: but I like the line before more. Because she's like,
38:09
Speaker 2: because they were so scared they ran and came to her.
38:11
Speaker 2: She's like, you can't be afraid. Like, That's part of
38:14
Speaker 2: the problem is you are afraid of them, so they
38:15
Speaker 2: will be afraid of you.
38:17
Speaker 3: And I think that scene also, it's one of the
38:20
Speaker 3: only scenes. I mean, look, the final scene is also
38:24
Speaker 3: not at the circus. But it's, like, one of the
38:26
Speaker 3: only scenes where they're not at the circus. And it
38:29
Speaker 3: kind of shows you, like, if they leave the comfort
38:31
Speaker 3: of their, quote, own, the own kind, then, like, they're
38:35
Speaker 3: just going to be ridiculed and, like, you know, murdered.
38:37
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a... In the documentary that was about
38:42
Speaker 2: the actors after... the actor who played Angelino, a film
38:48
Speaker 2: historian went to find him because he lived, one of
38:51
Speaker 2: the longest to live after the movie. He was a
38:53
Speaker 2: little person. Little person, yeah. And he was living in
38:56
Speaker 2: a retirement home and he told the guy, like, don't
38:58
Speaker 2: come here. And the guy was like, okay, like, I
39:01
Speaker 2: get it. Like, he's famous for being, like, in this movie. Like,
39:05
Speaker 2: I get, like, he probably gets a lot of people
39:06
Speaker 2: who approach him or who recognize him. And he's like, no, no, no.
39:10
Speaker 2: Just being who I am and how I look Every
39:13
Speaker 2: day it feels like everybody's watching you. Yeah. So he's like,
39:15
Speaker 2: I'd rather just live in this retirement community where like
39:19
Speaker 2: there is just that vision is gone.
39:22
Speaker 1: Well, for me, like seeing people with microcephaly, it's not
39:26
Speaker 1: it's not horrifying it's not funny it's not entertaining it's
39:29
Speaker 1: not fascinating it's just sad yeah to me so I
39:32
Speaker 1: just don't I don't want that so it just makes
39:35
Speaker 1: me sad.
39:35
Speaker 3: So Schlitzie uh Schlitzie Simon? I don't know like his
39:40
Speaker 3: actual name is like Simon Metz.
39:42
Speaker 4: The main the main pinhead is named Schlitzie yeah so
39:45
Speaker 4: Schlitzie actually you know was in a variety of movies
39:48
Speaker 4: and I would say is If you search, like, if
39:51
Speaker 4: you Googled Pinhead, you'd probably, like, maybe have Schlitzie as
39:54
Speaker 4: a top result.
39:56
Speaker 3: The other very famous, which, like, listeners may know, is
40:01
Speaker 3: the Howard Stern guest that was always on that they
40:04
Speaker 3: referred to as Beetlejuice.
40:06
Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
40:07
Speaker 3: So he's, like, a very famous one that, like, I
40:10
Speaker 3: didn't ever put that together, that he had microcephaly.
40:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that.
40:14
Speaker 3: And he had, like, a multiple. He had, like, numerous
40:16
Speaker 3: different disorders, but.
40:18
Speaker 1: Because I can only imagine how incredibly difficult it would
40:22
Speaker 1: be to have a child who had microcephaly. I just
40:26
Speaker 1: think that one thing that, seeing this movie again, I
40:30
Speaker 1: kind of respect it more because of the way that
40:33
Speaker 1: they're treated by the good characters in the film. Because
40:37
Speaker 1: really the good characters in the film, which we'll get into,
40:40
Speaker 1: treat all of them like they're just any other human.
40:44
Speaker 3: Yes.
40:45
Speaker 2: And it's also showing you that the movie is treating
40:46
Speaker 2: them that way too.
40:47
Speaker 1: Yes.
40:48
Speaker 2: Which I think in 1932 would be like fathoms ahead
40:51
Speaker 2: of time.
40:52
Speaker 1: Correct. And they're treated like freaks and ridiculed and like
40:55
Speaker 1: people are horrified by them, by the bad people in
40:57
Speaker 1: the movie.
40:57
Speaker 2: Exactly.
40:59
Speaker 1: But yes, so that was a big hurdle for me. Also,
41:03
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Josephine Joseph. So Josephine Joseph
41:07
Speaker 1: is a quote unquote half woman, half man. And I'm like,
41:10
Speaker 1: I don't know what this is in 2026 terms. Is
41:13
Speaker 1: this just a trans person?
41:15
Speaker 2: So what's fascinating to me is Josephine Joseph was the
41:19
Speaker 2: reason this movie had a lot of bans and controversies,
41:22
Speaker 2: not them.
41:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:23
Speaker 1: So nothing's changed in 90 years.
41:25
Speaker 2: Exactly. Right. I was like, I was reading about, they're like,
41:28
Speaker 2: I would like read this person. They were like, shockingly
41:31
Speaker 2: people's biggest problem was the person you barely see. And
41:34
Speaker 2: that's why Josephine Joseph is not in a lot of
41:37
Speaker 2: the movie because they were, She was edited out.
41:39
Speaker 3: But has one of the biggest moments.
41:41
Speaker 2: We'll go over that later.
41:42
Speaker 1: She does. It's a person that half of their body
41:45
Speaker 1: is a male and half of their body is female.
41:48
Speaker 1: And I didn't really know what that was in today's terms.
41:51
Speaker 2: So in real life, primarily male. This actor was primarily male.
41:57
Speaker 2: And then the person was describing what they would do
42:00
Speaker 2: in 1932 to make themselves look female on one half
42:04
Speaker 2: and male on the other. And it was pretty fascinating.
42:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I read it would not be... It would not
42:09
Speaker 3: be like equivalent to trans because trans would be you were,
42:12
Speaker 3: you know, biologically born one sex and you're transitioning to
42:16
Speaker 3: the other sex versus Josephine Joseph. Don't know the actor,
42:22
Speaker 3: actress's real name.
42:23
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
42:25
Speaker 1: Well, not her birth name.
42:27
Speaker 3: No. Yes.
42:27
Speaker 1: Yes.
42:28
Speaker 3: Sounds like they said it. set them up yeah yeah
42:31
Speaker 3: yeah exactly uh but i read like it's just you
42:35
Speaker 3: identify with both both sexes so it's just like that's
42:39
Speaker 3: okay it can't be any more uh than josephine joseph so.
42:42
Speaker 1: Um there's also a clown not not proso but there's
42:46
Speaker 1: another clown who has like an intense stuttering problem that they.
42:49
Speaker 3: Show roscoe roscoe well didn't like roscoe didn't like roscoe.
42:53
Speaker 2: Roscoe also was he would be a female impersonator too.
42:57
Speaker 1: Yes he was a female impersonator but it To me,
42:59
Speaker 1: it seemed clearly as just a goof.
43:01
Speaker 3: And he was faking the stutter because he had a
43:05
Speaker 3: stutter younger and then he kind of lost it but
43:08
Speaker 3: realized he could make a circus.
43:10
Speaker 2: Career out of it.
43:11
Speaker 1: People thought it was funny. So I didn't think it
43:14
Speaker 1: was more like an identity thing where he wanted to
43:16
Speaker 1: be a woman just for a joke. So Cleo, the
43:21
Speaker 1: trapeze artist, is clearly heavily flirting and trying to seduce... Hans.
43:28
Speaker 3: Get it, Hans.
43:28
Speaker 1: Who's the little person. And Hans is engaged to Frida,
43:32
Speaker 1: who's also a little person. But he's like, oh, the
43:35
Speaker 1: most beautiful woman at the circus, who's a full-grown person.
43:38
Speaker 1: Most beautiful big person? Yeah, most beautiful big person. Is
43:42
Speaker 1: into me, so like, oh, that's very intriguing. Now, Pep
43:45
Speaker 1: and I personally thought the best-looking woman in this movie
43:48
Speaker 1: was Venus, who's the SEAL trainer. She's also just a.
43:55
Speaker 3: Beauty and personality.
43:57
Speaker 1: Beauty and personality. I hesitate to use the word normal,
44:00
Speaker 1: but she's like a normal human adult who trains seals.
44:03
Speaker 1: And I just thought she was genuinely prettier than Cleo.
44:06
Speaker 2: Is it weird that all the women have the same hair?
44:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just of the time.
44:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was really odd.
44:11
Speaker 1: Of the time. And there is another clown named Froso,
44:16
Speaker 1: who's sort of like, I would say the lead, again,
44:20
Speaker 1: hesitate to use the word normal, but lead normal male.
44:23
Speaker 3: Yeah.
44:24
Speaker 1: He's a clown. He's just a really good guy.
44:26
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Hercules would be.
44:28
Speaker 1: But he's the antagonist. But Froso is just a really
44:34
Speaker 1: good guy. And whenever Froso interacts with a human, a normal, full-grown,
44:40
Speaker 1: regular human, or a, again, I hate to use these terms,
44:44
Speaker 1: but freak human. Their interactions are identical. He does not
44:48
Speaker 1: treat any of them any differently at all, which is, again,
44:51
Speaker 1: very surprising and progressive at the time.
44:54
Speaker 2: And also the only one who approaches the quote-unquote pinheads. Yeah.
45:00
Speaker 2: You never see them, like, besides Madam, you never see
45:03
Speaker 2: them around anybody, but he's the only person who, like,
45:04
Speaker 2: openly goes to them.
45:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, he'll go up to Schlitzie and be like, hey, Schlitzie,
45:07
Speaker 1: what's up? Yeah.
45:08
Speaker 3: And, like, talk to him. He was commenting on Schlitzie's
45:10
Speaker 3: pretty dress and also knowing Schlitzie's a man was something.
45:13
Speaker 3: But I just pictured you watching this and, like, stop
45:16
Speaker 3: complimenting Schlitzie's dress.
45:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, that's another thing with the pinheads. It's like, okay, like,
45:20
Speaker 1: we treat them and view them as normal people and
45:24
Speaker 1: we love them, but you put ponytails on the pinpoint
45:28
Speaker 1: of their head and you put them in dresses. So
45:30
Speaker 1: it's like, you gotta, you gotta sell tickets.
45:34
Speaker 3: You gotta sell those tickets. Yeah.
45:36
Speaker 1: So if you're still listening, there's, there's a lot of fast,
45:42
Speaker 1: like talking 1930s slang. So I wrote this quote, this
45:44
Speaker 1: is not an actual quote from the movie, but I
45:46
Speaker 1: was like writing down like an example. So people know
45:49
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Oh, spill it sister. I know
45:51
Speaker 1: dames like you, you better scram telling me that cockeyed story. Like,
45:54
Speaker 1: there's a lot of dialogue like that in the movies.
45:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure is.
45:57
Speaker 1: There's conjoined twins. Yeah.
45:59
Speaker 3: There was a lot of scenes with the conjoined twins
46:01
Speaker 3: and a lot of, like, ooh, jokes.
46:04
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:04
Speaker 3: That was, like, the one area that felt exploitive and, like,
46:07
Speaker 3: just trying to be a comedy, kind of.
46:10
Speaker 1: One of the conjoined twins is marrying the stuttering clown
46:13
Speaker 1: female impersonator.
46:14
Speaker 2: She's marrying Roscoe. Daisy is marrying Roscoe. Yeah.
46:18
Speaker 1: And then you find out that, like, because Cleo is
46:21
Speaker 1: not with anybody at this point. But she's kissing Hercules,
46:25
Speaker 1: so it's like, okay, they're hooking up. They're kind of together,
46:28
Speaker 1: but nobody really knows about it.
46:30
Speaker 4: Because Hercules was with Venus, but they had a bad breakup.
46:35
Speaker 1: He was with Venus, and they had a bad breakup.
46:37
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. And then Josephine Joseph was spying
46:40
Speaker 1: on Hercules, kissing Cleo, so Hercules just punches him.
46:44
Speaker 2: Here's one for your eye. He just cracks her in
46:47
Speaker 2: the face.
46:47
Speaker 1: Cracks him in the face.
46:49
Speaker 3: And then Cleo looks surprised and goes like, I was like, oh, whoa.
46:55
Speaker 2: Cleo's a pretty terrible human, which I think was, again,
46:59
Speaker 2: also very intentional.
47:01
Speaker 1: And Hans is into Cleo, even though he's engaged to Frida.
47:04
Speaker 1: He starts buying her presents, and I'm like, why would
47:07
Speaker 1: you buy Cleo presents if you're engaged? If I started
47:10
Speaker 1: buying a woman presents, Shannon would be like, what's going on?
47:13
Speaker 3: Like a little person.
47:16
Speaker 1: Little or not little.
47:17
Speaker 3: Well, if we're keeping it symmetrical.
47:19
Speaker 1: Little or big. If I bought somebody presents, it would
47:21
Speaker 1: be concerning. Um, and Hercules and Cleo clearly thinks Hans
47:26
Speaker 1: is a joke. Yes.
47:27
Speaker 2: Yes.
47:28
Speaker 1: And there's like these two quote unquote normal guys that
47:32
Speaker 1: work on the surface, the circus, the roller brothers that
47:35
Speaker 1: are dickheads and they're constantly making fun of the freaks.
47:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
47:38
Speaker 2: Um, guys are wrong business. Yeah. They seem very turned
47:41
Speaker 2: off by this.
47:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
47:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Froso is telling Venus she has a good
47:47
Speaker 1: figure and I thought little creepy, but you know, Get it, Frozo.
47:52
Speaker 1: You know, you two seem like a good... You'd be
47:54
Speaker 1: a good couple.
47:55
Speaker 2: He has that weird phrase where he says, you should
47:58
Speaker 2: have caught me before my operation?
48:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that's... What does that mean?
48:01
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's about. Was he joking about, like,
48:04
Speaker 3: wearing the dress?
48:05
Speaker 1: Maybe.
48:06
Speaker 3: Maybe.
48:07
Speaker 1: That's why. Ryan's getting canceled for making fun of trans people.
48:10
Speaker 2: Come on, Ryan. This movie's 2026, 1932, every other line.
48:14
Speaker 3: Frozo, I wasn't the biggest fan of it. It was
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Speaker 3: also his acting chops where he just... Was really a
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Speaker 3: 1930s actor.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Hey, like, you see here, kid, you can't talk to
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Speaker 3: me that way.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Very vaudeville. Yes. And Al Jolson was a vaudeville.
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Speaker 2: He was a famous vaudeville.
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Speaker 1: That's from, that's a steep rule.
48:31
Speaker 2: Al Jolson was part of it, right?
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Speaker 1: Now, at this point, we meet the human skeleton, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't understand, I was trying to find out what
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Speaker 1: is his health condition, and I couldn't find it out,
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Speaker 1: but it says Peter Robinson, credited professionally as the living skeleton,
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Speaker 1: or the thin man. was an American theater sideshow art
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Speaker 1: performer and vaudevillian known for his film appearance in Todd
48:51
Speaker 1: Browning's film Freaks. He also had a career with Ringling Brothers,
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Speaker 1: and he appeared on Broadway. He worked as a carnival
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Speaker 1: sideshow entertainer. He weighed 58 pounds. I don't see how
49:03
Speaker 1: that's possible.
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Speaker 3: Did you see him?
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Speaker 1: And he was married to a fellow sideshow entertainer named
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Speaker 1: Baby Bunny Smith, a woman who weighed 467 pounds.
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Speaker 2: The documentary said this, and I was like, I'm so curious.
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Speaker 2: Do you think this was the inspiration for Monster House?
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Speaker 1: Monster House?
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Speaker 2: The animated horror movie.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I don't remember that.
49:25
Speaker 2: So the old man who owns the house and the
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Speaker 2: house is like alive. The house is haunted by the
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Speaker 2: spirit of his ex-wife who they met at a circus.
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Speaker 2: He's this skinny old frail man and she's this very
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Speaker 2: heavy woman. And I was like, I wonder if this was.
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Speaker 1: Stole it. it says they were married numerous times in
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Speaker 1: public for promotional purposes. Also, the human skeleton was an
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Speaker 1: expert harmonica player.
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Speaker 3: What?
49:51
Speaker 2: Wait.
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Speaker 3: Doesn't that seem... I guess you don't need like a...
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Speaker 3: I feel like he wouldn't have like a good pipes.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he would have good pipes. I
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Speaker 1: don't think he would.
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Speaker 3: Like this harmonica.
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Speaker 1: The freaks are talking. I don't remember who says this,
50:06
Speaker 1: but they're just chit-chatting with each other. And I say
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Speaker 1: the freaks and That's the name of the movie. I
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Speaker 1: know it's offensive. It's the name of the movie. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: They're talking and they're saying Cleopatra is not one of us.
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Speaker 1: We are just filthy things to her. She would spit
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Speaker 1: on Hans if Hans wasn't giving her presents. But let
50:22
Speaker 1: her try doing anything to one of us. She don't
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Speaker 1: know what would happen, but she will find out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And she sure will.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I think with that, we're actually almost an hour in.
50:35
Speaker 1: We need to bring it to.
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Speaker 3: A part two.
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Speaker 1: I think part two won't be very long. But I
50:39
Speaker 1: think we need to bring it to a part two.
50:42
Speaker 1: I know you're all really excited. Thank you for listening.
50:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, also, if you guys want to tune in, it's
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Speaker 2: available for $ 89. 99 on that streaming site you found.
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Speaker 3: It, right?
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Speaker 1: I used AI to send them a screenshot that renting
50:54
Speaker 1: Freaks on YouTube was $ 90. And I was like, yes,
50:57
Speaker 1: I have to do it. But anyways, thank you for listening.
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Speaker 1: Ryan can finish his Taco Bell now. By the way,
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Speaker 1: the pink Baja Blast was great.
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Speaker 2: It was very good.
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Speaker 1: I liked it a lot.