Latest / Foul Territory / Barry Bonds talks Ohtani, Today's game, Art of hitting
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I broke off my records at home. You're right about
- 0:02Speaker 1: that up, I know, because I wanted to. I could
- 0:04Speaker 1: predict when I wanted to do it at times, not always,
- 0:07Speaker 1: but a lot of times.
- 0:12Speaker 2: All Right, while he's getting set up and miked up
- 0:14Speaker 2: a j I mean, talked about Barry quite a bit
- 0:18Speaker 2: on a couple of times.
- 0:18Speaker 3: He said he called me a liar earlier. So we're
- 0:20Speaker 3: going we're gonna ask him.
- 0:22Speaker 4: But but yeah, yeah, well tell me what I want to.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I think I still have.
- 0:29Speaker 4: You have to clip clip.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Barry and I played together two thousand and four. That
- 0:38Speaker 3: was the year where you walked like two hundred and
- 0:39Speaker 3: eighty seven thousand times, right.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Yeah, what you're talking about right here?
- 0:44Speaker 3: See yeah, see that's true.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Story, that's true.
- 0:47Speaker 3: See Willie Mays story about he wasn't get to hit
- 0:49Speaker 3: a home run, it was true.
- 0:50Speaker 1: That's true.
- 0:51Speaker 3: And the Eric Gania story is true.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Yeah he said it was true.
- 0:54Speaker 3: There was more too, but I couldn't throw the whole
- 0:56Speaker 3: thing out there, right, But but that was true. So
- 0:59Speaker 3: the best hitter I've ever seen, No one's close. I
- 1:01Speaker 3: played against Migulchabara, Triple Crown. I played you know with
- 1:04Speaker 3: and against a lot of people. This guy right here,
- 1:06Speaker 3: different solar system and everyone else. I'm sorry, it just
- 1:09Speaker 3: he was unbelievable.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 1:12Speaker 4: What do you think about show Hey, by the way,
- 1:15Speaker 4: he's good. Yeah. Do you watch him a lot?
- 1:17Speaker 1: No? No, I've been watching the Dodgers all the time.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Then I have to watch the giants that worked there.
- 1:25Speaker 4: True, and I just watch him.
- 1:26Speaker 1: He's a very talented player.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Okay, different generation, yes, of course.
- 1:30Speaker 3: What do you think about the VLO?
- 1:31Speaker 4: Now?
- 1:32Speaker 3: What did it have affected you?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Great hitters are gonna be good regardless of what's going on.
- 1:36Speaker 1: That doesn't matter what is you can hit, You're gonna
- 1:38Speaker 1: hit regardless. The difference just between eras is that no
- 1:43Speaker 1: one's gonna let you hit three or four home runs
- 1:44Speaker 1: in a game in my generation as they do now,
- 1:48Speaker 1: you know. I tell him, like, now, you guys just
- 1:50Speaker 1: take batting practice in the morning, afternoon and at night. Me.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I took batting practice at five seven o'clock. I hit
- 1:56Speaker 1: one home run. I'm gonna duck for the next pitch,
- 1:58Speaker 1: or I'm gonna move this way for the next I'm
- 2:00Speaker 1: gonna walk. It's a little bit different generation, but still
- 2:03Speaker 1: in the scheme of it all, you still have to
- 2:06Speaker 1: have talent to do it. They're very talented athletes. I
- 2:09Speaker 1: don't take anything away from them. And the great hitters
- 2:12Speaker 1: are always gonna be great. I don't care what shift
- 2:13Speaker 1: you put on, what below you put on, It doesn't matter.
- 2:16Speaker 1: If you're a good hitter, doesn't matter.
- 2:18Speaker 4: You're gonna figure it out.
- 2:19Speaker 1: That always happened, always will there guys you like watching now, Oh,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I like watching all. I like watching them all in
- 2:28Speaker 1: in what they do. I just wish the I'm glad
- 2:31Speaker 1: the game's starting to come back a little bit. See
- 2:33Speaker 1: guys bunting a little bit is more I see guys,
- 2:38Speaker 1: but there's a difference between me. I ain't get you.
- 2:42Speaker 1: But but you know, just the little things that matter
- 2:52Speaker 1: in the game of baseball. You know, like you guys
- 2:55Speaker 1: sitting all he shifts over here, if you wanted to
- 2:57Speaker 1: shift butt to third base, make them come back over there,
- 2:59Speaker 1: you know. I I'm glad that that's coming back a
- 3:03Speaker 1: little bit. Steals were up a little bit that. I
- 3:05Speaker 1: like seeing guys run steal and stuff like that. So
- 3:08Speaker 1: those things I admire the games. So I just like
- 3:11Speaker 1: each individual to play their role. Just swinging for the
- 3:13Speaker 1: fence and striking out a lot, to me, isn't really exciting.
- 3:17Speaker 1: I think it takes away from the game a little bit.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I like those guys who like to hit and run
- 3:21Speaker 1: and set tables for the other players and stuff like that.
- 3:23Speaker 1: It's just it's exciting for me that way, because that's
- 3:26Speaker 1: how I came up.
- 3:28Speaker 5: AJ doesn't gush over any player the way he gushes
- 3:31Speaker 5: over you. True playing with you, talks about how great
- 3:34Speaker 5: you were. So he agrees with you how great you were.
- 3:37Speaker 5: What about him hitting behind you? How bad was that?
- 3:40Speaker 3: That was the worst idea of all time. Felipe Luis
- 3:42Speaker 3: should have got fired for that.
- 3:44Speaker 5: I'm serious.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yeah, they you know I always sit there and say
- 3:48Speaker 1: that wasn't the greatest teammate off the field, but I
- 3:50Speaker 1: was pretty good on the field. Take a walk for you. Yeah,
- 3:52Speaker 1: that was the name of the game.
- 3:53Speaker 5: You know.
- 3:54Speaker 1: My father I said, I don't really talk about myself
- 3:57Speaker 1: so much because you know, you don't need to. If
- 3:59Speaker 1: you're good, people will talk for you, right, And so
- 4:02Speaker 1: my job to get on base. And you know, I
- 4:04Speaker 1: could have been selfish. I could have swung in a
- 4:06Speaker 1: lot of pitches. I could have done a lot of things.
- 4:08Speaker 1: But that's not how baseball. Suppose we played my job.
- 4:11Speaker 1: They don't want to pitch me. Let my teammate do
- 4:12Speaker 1: his job, and that's what he's getting paid.
- 4:14Speaker 3: That you're hitting to a lot of double players.
- 4:16Speaker 1: That's all right. Lest you tried, he.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Was trying to make it do something.
- 4:24Speaker 3: You need to break it up at second base. We
- 4:30Speaker 3: didn't want him hurt.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Yeah. I only killed up as I got older. When
- 4:33Speaker 1: I was younger, I don't have five hundred by accident.
- 4:37Speaker 3: I didn't want I was.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Final bat What about the times when it's like you're
- 4:42Speaker 2: gonna get one pitch tonight, that's it. You're gonna get
- 4:44Speaker 2: one pitch. How would you stay focused on that and
- 4:47Speaker 2: also not just.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Myself to do it? Yeah, I took batting practice. I
- 4:54Speaker 1: tell these guys all the time, is I mastered batting practice?
- 4:58Speaker 1: And that that was my whole okey to hitting? Was
- 5:01Speaker 1: I mastered BP? Because you're a guy who throws to
- 5:04Speaker 1: you every day, like seventy two miles an hour, and
- 5:07Speaker 1: you're getting jammed in a cage, or you're popping it up,
- 5:09Speaker 1: or you're doing things because you're trying to over extend
- 5:13Speaker 1: a technique of hitting. It's it's simple to me because
- 5:18Speaker 1: it's like I sit there and say, my IQ is
- 5:20Speaker 1: so high. It kind of like insults people sometimes, but
- 5:23Speaker 1: I don't mean to. It's just is what it is. Well,
- 5:27Speaker 1: the ball's coming at me a seventy two miles an hour,
- 5:29Speaker 1: and I compress it in a perfect technique. The ball
- 5:33Speaker 1: only travels so far if you use physics to it. Well,
- 5:37Speaker 1: if the ball comes eighty and I can still do
- 5:39Speaker 1: the same thing, the ball just travels even further. What
- 5:42Speaker 1: happens in BP is you get the guys trying to
- 5:45Speaker 1: compress a seventy two miles picture just to hit it
- 5:48Speaker 1: into orbit, and the actually breaking down a technique that
- 5:53Speaker 1: they shouldn't be doing. And so I just mastered batting
- 5:56Speaker 1: practice in a way where I can control wherever the
- 5:59Speaker 1: ball went. And then during practice, I actually played the
- 6:04Speaker 1: scenarios through my head and I played them in batting practice.
- 6:08Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how these guys don't go
- 6:10Speaker 1: on the field anymore and hit it does makes sense
- 6:12Speaker 1: to me. I need to touch it, feel it, at
- 6:14Speaker 1: least line up properly to see if I'm there. I
- 6:17Speaker 1: don't care if you take five swings or two swings
- 6:19Speaker 1: or whatever and go to the batting case, but I
- 6:21Speaker 1: have things can change out there, so I've always wanted
- 6:23Speaker 1: to be in that ticket. And then I played, I'm
- 6:27Speaker 1: only gonna get one pitch, so I play, I'm oh
- 6:30Speaker 1: two already in a scenario in my head, or I'm
- 6:33Speaker 1: gonna do that in practice over and over again. If
- 6:35Speaker 1: I see that pattern over and over again, I'm gonna
- 6:38Speaker 1: beat you. And it's it's simple math. Why does the
- 6:40Speaker 1: pitcher get four and I get three? Because throwing a
- 6:42Speaker 1: ball straight with a seventeen inch plate that goes to wide,
- 6:46Speaker 1: it's not that easy. You can go to that little
- 6:48Speaker 1: amusement park. You know, you gives those three little things.
- 6:49Speaker 1: You got that ball and you miss you two, you
- 6:51Speaker 1: miss one? Okay, take the distance right now, he's got
- 6:54Speaker 1: to put a wrinkle in it. Those odds dropped to
- 6:56Speaker 1: here right yep. And if you guys have watched this
- 6:59Speaker 1: game long enough, guys, I mean you've been in this
- 7:01Speaker 1: game longer. It's longer longer than me. Damn there, I've
- 7:03Speaker 1: been yeah long, you've been. I'm sixty so I'm sixty two. Okay,
- 7:07Speaker 1: so you've get in this together, right, Okay, if you
- 7:11Speaker 1: sit there and watch the game long enough guy, don't
- 7:13Speaker 1: swing I guarantee most of the time it'll be too two.
- 7:16Speaker 1: You don't. You have to swing a bat. Yep, math, physics,
- 7:20Speaker 1: the game, dictate yourself. So I understood it and I
- 7:22Speaker 1: understood how to do it.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Mh the best.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best one.
- 7:28Speaker 3: And by the way, I love when you got out there,
- 7:29Speaker 3: you're like, will he's number two, I'm number one.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Well seven sixty two, tell us that start you're talking
- 7:35Speaker 1: to like, you're talking like, Okay, I love him. He's
- 7:40Speaker 1: number one to me in my heart. But statistics, staratistics.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Do you keep track of those to see if anyone's
- 7:46Speaker 2: tracking towards any of your numbers?
- 7:47Speaker 1: I hope I'm alive when they do. I don't. You know.
- 7:50Speaker 1: The one thing is you don't get jealous over people
- 7:52Speaker 1: what they do in their careers and what they you know,
- 7:54Speaker 1: I never been jealous over anybody. Go break it. I
- 7:58Speaker 1: hope I'm there to see it. You know what I mean?
- 8:01Speaker 1: I don't. I did what I did. It's over. I
- 8:03Speaker 1: can't do anymore. And if you just happen to me better,
- 8:06Speaker 1: God bless you. Just be better.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Yep, I mean you got records. Noma's catching walks in
- 8:12Speaker 3: two thousand, four nine walks or whatever. Noway's ever gonna
- 8:16Speaker 3: do that again. No one's gonna walk intentionally walk up
- 8:18Speaker 3: like two hundred times. No one's gonna get to seven hundred.
- 8:21Speaker 3: They're not gonna play long enough.
- 8:22Speaker 1: The game changes a little bit, maybe just different eras.
- 8:25Speaker 1: It's all. You know, if you weren't hitting three hundred mior,
- 8:27Speaker 1: you were in the major leagues most of them. Nowadays,
- 8:30Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really matter. So do I want
- 8:32Speaker 1: to play back then or now? If I play now,
- 8:33Speaker 1: I get seven hundred million dollars. So telling you ain't
- 8:41Speaker 1: got it yet, brother, I'm call all my shots.
- 8:46Speaker 2: When you saw that, when you saw that contract, where
- 8:48Speaker 2: you're like, cause that that's well beyond what anyone else
- 8:51Speaker 2: is making. Oh, Tony's it's seven hundred, but it's deferred,
- 8:53Speaker 2: so it's it's four sixty whatever. But so Soto's money
- 8:57Speaker 2: is that's real.
- 8:58Speaker 1: The players, I mean, you can't you can't take away
- 9:01Speaker 1: they're the entertainment. Okay. That just shows you how well
- 9:05Speaker 1: the game's doing, right, and so you don't discredit that,
- 9:09Speaker 1: you know, you just hope the teams have enough to
- 9:12Speaker 1: share it with all the other guys. Because I need
- 9:13Speaker 1: some of my teammates to get like two. Yeah, they
- 9:16Speaker 1: stay on the team, and I don't want to be
- 9:18Speaker 1: out there by myself. I don't want so to be
- 9:20Speaker 1: out there. He doesn't know about there by himself seven
- 9:21Speaker 1: hundred million, and then you're rebuilding a franchise. That's not
- 9:25Speaker 1: what he wants either. He just happens to be in
- 9:27Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, and you know,
- 9:29Speaker 1: God bless him.
- 9:30Speaker 4: Do you guys reach out to you like current players?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked to a lot of them. They always
- 9:35Speaker 1: talk to me about hitting. Everyone's always talking.
- 9:38Speaker 3: You want to talk about someone else, and you give
- 9:42Speaker 3: me a number, I'll call you about someone else. Do
- 9:44Speaker 3: you want to talk about something else?
- 9:45Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they want. I mean they watch video
- 9:47Speaker 4: of you.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Like there's a guy I won't say his name, but
- 9:50Speaker 2: a good player in the BIGS who texted recently and
- 9:53Speaker 2: was like, how do I get footage or barrier?
- 9:55Speaker 4: And I was like, I think you could probably. I
- 9:56Speaker 4: mean you're big lea. Guys like you probably get in
- 9:58Speaker 4: touch with Barry. Yeah, want to talk to.
- 10:00Speaker 1: The name of The key to hitting is just getting
- 10:03Speaker 1: in the hitters count. If you get in hitters' count,
- 10:05Speaker 1: you have a better shot. But educating a lot of
- 10:09Speaker 1: the guys when they're with me and we're working out
- 10:11Speaker 1: and training and I'm going through this and I'm going
- 10:14Speaker 1: your main objective is just you and the picture. Okay.
- 10:18Speaker 1: If you can focus on just that and you and
- 10:21Speaker 1: isolate everything else side of your mind, your success rate
- 10:25Speaker 1: technically is better and you won't be angry at everything else.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Somebody the line drive to second basement. He's out of
- 10:32Speaker 1: the equation. He already lost, even though he's clapping like
- 10:35Speaker 1: he got me out. You got beat. Your goon saved you. Okay.
- 10:41Speaker 1: So now if I hit another, if I don't try
- 10:44Speaker 1: to hit that same spot again, which technically I can,
- 10:46Speaker 1: might miss it and go over, hit the line drive
- 10:48Speaker 1: over his head or do something else. If I chase
- 10:51Speaker 1: the two of them two against one, I can't win.
- 10:53Speaker 1: My refocus still needs to be on my opponent in
- 10:55Speaker 1: front of me, and eventually this goon will disappear. But
- 10:59Speaker 1: what happens is as you, a hitter, will go Bammy
- 11:02Speaker 1: made a great, great contact, did everything perfect? Come back
- 11:06Speaker 1: and try to improve on that, and you can't. Once
- 11:08Speaker 1: perfection is there, it's there. Try to maintain that the
- 11:11Speaker 1: next four bats you might be three for four because
- 11:14Speaker 1: his goons don't get in the way. You gave him
- 11:16Speaker 1: too much credit when he already lost the equation. And
- 11:20Speaker 1: once they can realize that, they'll calculate the math and
- 11:23Speaker 1: they might beat him more often.
- 11:24Speaker 4: By show, hey, this year goes fifty to fifty. Really,
- 11:28Speaker 4: in his day, that wasn't a thing. No, really, in
- 11:31Speaker 4: your day, it wasn't that much a thing became a FI.
- 11:34Speaker 1: I could have done FI ninety four on the strike. Ye,
- 11:37Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. I would have done fifty
- 11:39Speaker 1: to fifty that year because I already had thirty nine
- 11:43Speaker 1: home runs with twenty nine stolen bases in the strike.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Matt Williams would have hit sixty plus, and so would
- 11:48Speaker 1: Bagwell because they had like forty something home runs during
- 11:50Speaker 1: that strike too. So ninety four would have been for me.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Would have been if any time I could have done
- 11:56Speaker 1: it was then after that, No, that that's incredible to
- 11:59Speaker 1: do fifty. I don't care who you are. Just running
- 12:02Speaker 1: that much is tiring.
- 12:04Speaker 4: Yes, And then he's gonna pitch again this year.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I think he needs to stead d h and do
- 12:09Speaker 1: what he does best. That means he's a great that's
- 12:12Speaker 1: gonna tire him out. I think it's just too much
- 12:14Speaker 1: on him. I think what he does and what he
- 12:17Speaker 1: brings to that team right now, Why change something that's
- 12:19Speaker 1: going great? You know? I think maybe come in as
- 12:22Speaker 1: a reliever, because he's so solid, so hard throwing. He's
- 12:25Speaker 1: got that great slider, you know, split and everything. It's great.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Come in throw aning or two or something, but maintain
- 12:31Speaker 1: what you do well.
- 12:32Speaker 3: All right, before you go, I got to ask one question.
- 12:34Speaker 3: We when did you pan together? Two thousand and two.
- 12:37Speaker 3: I want to ask you if you remember this atbaut
- 12:40Speaker 3: This is this is Barry Bond's greatness summed up and
- 12:42Speaker 3: wanted back. There was a one of the Japanese we
- 12:46Speaker 3: played the Japanese also team you. The guy threw you
- 12:49Speaker 3: a split and you swung and missed, and you looked
- 12:51Speaker 3: at him and you went like this, and you went
- 12:55Speaker 3: I remember, and then you pointed like you're gonna go deep.
- 12:58Speaker 3: And the next bitch he threw it higher and you
- 13:00Speaker 3: hit a home run.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I remember, right, I remember.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I literally never seen nothing like that. It was that
- 13:08Speaker 3: you were in the box. You literally look at him
- 13:10Speaker 3: and go like this, and then you pointed baby Bruce
- 13:13Speaker 3: style and then you hit a home run. And I
- 13:15Speaker 3: remember I was with Pat Burrell. We were in the dugout,
- 13:17Speaker 3: and we both just looked at each other and no,
- 13:19Speaker 3: there's no way that just happened like this.
- 13:22Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. I give it to you. I did.
- 13:24Speaker 1: I did a lot of crazy stuff on that baseball field.
- 13:27Speaker 1: It's a lot of I predicted a lot of things,
- 13:29Speaker 1: You're right I did. But the Eric Ganne thing was
- 13:32Speaker 1: just Eric Ganye And I was in Japan, and you know,
- 13:35Speaker 1: he was most dominant, you know, reliever at the time,
- 13:38Speaker 1: and I just said, you know, if you get over
- 13:40Speaker 1: three runs, you know, you throw one hundred and four
- 13:43Speaker 1: miles an hour mono a mono, let's go for it
- 13:45Speaker 1: right where you can't lose a game. You and me,
- 13:47Speaker 1: you beat me, you name and I beat you. I
- 13:49Speaker 1: named it. And then he threw me that curveball. And
- 13:52Speaker 1: see the curveball wasn't the deal. So when you give
- 13:54Speaker 1: me a curveball, if you really look at me, I
- 13:55Speaker 1: looked at him like, okay, brother, don't I'm gonna get
- 13:58Speaker 1: real angry. And then and I named it right when
- 14:03Speaker 1: I was just it. But you know, I broke all
- 14:07Speaker 1: my records at home. You're right about that, up. I
- 14:09Speaker 1: know because I wanted to. I know. It was just
- 14:12Speaker 1: those are my family and friends and fans, and I
- 14:15Speaker 1: can predict when I wanted to do it at times,
- 14:18Speaker 1: not always, but a lot of times.
- 14:20Speaker 4: That's really cool.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah. I just flew into here, I fly back home.
- 14:25Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah. Well, yeah, thanks for joining. I appreciate it.
- 14:31Speaker 4: Good to see you.