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- 0:00Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys The Boys is
- 0:02Speaker 1: brought to you by Barstool Sports. Today we have on
- 0:05Speaker 1: Frank rag Now he's a center slash guard for the
- 0:09Speaker 1: Detroit Lions.
- 0:10Speaker 2: So another old lineman.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Shout out the boys, shout out the tanks up front, dude.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Frank is an avid outdoorsman. He opped on the pod
- 0:16Speaker 1: to talk about everything from his hardships of his NFL
- 0:20Speaker 1: rookie season, like paying for tabs, some rookie duties that
- 0:23Speaker 1: you gotta do. Also, he has a YouTube channel, Grizzly
- 0:26Speaker 1: Man Outdoors. Go check out the boy support them, subscribe.
- 0:29Speaker 1: We talk about Lions head coach coach Patricia. We talk
- 0:32Speaker 1: about Lions being you know, you guys know the drill
- 0:35Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions. We give different We talk about
- 0:39Speaker 1: experiences with our college recruiting process. We talk about Frank's
- 0:43Speaker 1: dad and how he's had a huge inspiration on Frank's
- 0:45Speaker 1: life since his passing, which is a pretty which is
- 0:48Speaker 1: a pretty deep story that we get into. You know,
- 0:52Speaker 1: his dad, Hey, I said it on the pod. His
- 0:55Speaker 1: dad is definitely proud of what Frank is doing today.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Frank also, you know, on a on a more positive light, Frank. Uh,
- 1:03Speaker 1: I forget what happened because you know CT but we
- 1:06Speaker 1: had Frank. He took his shirt off for whatever reason.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I forget what it is. It might have been me
- 1:11Speaker 1: getting who knows what happened? Uh, sit back, relax, you know,
- 1:16Speaker 1: enjoy the boys man. Subscribe follow us. We're a busting
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- 1:33Speaker 2: Guys.
- 1:34Speaker 1: We appreciate you biggest hugs, tiniest kisses. Now, let's get
- 1:38Speaker 1: to the episode of Frank rag Now. Frank rag Now, Okay,
- 1:42Speaker 1: I apologize for interrupting your story. Finish your story then
- 1:45Speaker 1: we can get.
- 1:45Speaker 3: No, it's just telling Frank, you know, growing up as
- 1:48Speaker 3: a not man but kind of me actually. But I'll
- 1:51Speaker 3: get into my own stuff later. This is my podcast.
- 1:53Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I want.
- 1:55Speaker 3: When I was talking to rag Now, he was telling
- 1:57Speaker 3: me how he was a chubby, little tiny bunny and
- 2:00Speaker 3: that he had some issues, and I said, well, being
- 2:02Speaker 3: a chubby, tiny bunny and having some issues and being
- 2:05Speaker 3: a ginger. But then he you know, he said, autumn
- 2:07Speaker 3: Leaf is his Uh, yes, I hate hate it was coming. Yeah,
- 2:11Speaker 3: it was coming. That was one interruption. You're on fire
- 2:13Speaker 3: and we're actually not even quoted to start for another minute.
- 2:16Speaker 3: It's gonna be a rough hour. It's gonna be a
- 2:18Speaker 3: rough hour, my baby.
- 2:21Speaker 1: But God, Frank, you're a ginger.
- 2:24Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm automn leaf bottomn leaf.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I can see, I can see. I've never heard that,
- 2:29Speaker 1: and I fucking love.
- 2:30Speaker 4: That brown right up for interpretations.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Fall Well, I'm gonna say one name to you and
- 2:35Speaker 3: you have to tell me your reaction.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Kyle Kyless, Yeah, that's him, That's that is him.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Have you ever met Kyle Kyless?
- 2:47Speaker 4: No, but I've I've worked out over at Michigan and
- 2:50Speaker 4: all those people around there. Just say his name.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle Carl was Kyle was a five star recruit
- 2:58Speaker 3: and he's a legend like that. He was a he
- 3:00Speaker 3: was a five star recruit. We stole him from Ohio
- 3:02Speaker 3: State and when he decoded, I don't know if he decode,
- 3:06Speaker 3: but he was definitely like thinking about going to Ahio
- 3:08Speaker 3: State big time. Said fuck Ohio State. I'm going to Michigan.
- 3:12Speaker 3: That's how it's going to be. He started getting hate
- 3:14Speaker 3: mail from everywhere because I don't like, like when you
- 3:17Speaker 3: played at ar Kansas, So it's a it's way different
- 3:19Speaker 3: down there. You guys don't have rivals. You're kind of
- 3:21Speaker 3: like Vanderbilt're kind of stuck in the SEC hoping that
- 3:23Speaker 3: dot you can figure something out. That's too I'm trying
- 3:33Speaker 3: to tell him about Kyle Kyless.
- 3:34Speaker 4: Mark Kansas was way too casual and I'm supposed to
- 3:36Speaker 4: just sit here and take that.
- 3:37Speaker 3: No, dude, the what like, what are you like? Ar
- 3:40Speaker 3: Kansas is literally like it's like Missouri, It's like Idaho.
- 3:44Speaker 3: It's like we we have the territory and we're just like, hey,
- 3:48Speaker 3: I guess we're like a bigger country because of this,
- 3:50Speaker 3: but it's really not doing anything for us, you know
- 3:51Speaker 3: what I'm saying. What's that?
- 3:54Speaker 1: He said? Respect? Did you grow up in Arkansas?
- 3:57Speaker 4: No, I'm from Minnesota.
- 3:58Speaker 3: I'll just tell my story, letter.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Tell your story, Taylor.
- 4:02Speaker 3: So Kyle k he gets he gets recruited. He says
- 4:08Speaker 3: House State, I'm gonna go to Michigan.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Now.
- 4:09Speaker 3: He goes to Michigan and This is how arrogant this
- 4:11Speaker 3: dude was. He was getting hate mail, so he put
- 4:14Speaker 3: his address on Twitter and said, any you haters want
- 4:18Speaker 3: to come get it, you can find me here at
- 4:19Speaker 3: this address. No one showed up, all shirt and no
- 4:23Speaker 3: trousers over there in Ohio. And if anybody in from
- 4:26Speaker 3: Ohio is listening to this right now, Mike Rabel, ohiose
- 4:30Speaker 3: sucks because I know I know very you know you
- 4:32Speaker 3: know who Mike Ribel is.
- 4:34Speaker 4: I do.
- 4:35Speaker 3: He's definitely listening to this podcast right now.
- 4:37Speaker 4: You're sorry you recruiting me out Ohio State?
- 4:39Speaker 3: Did he really wanted to go to hospital?
- 4:40Speaker 1: What was it like? What was it like?
- 4:42Speaker 4: Getting he was cool? Man?
- 4:45Speaker 3: How many times did he call you?
- 4:46Speaker 2: Buster?
- 4:47Speaker 4: He probably doesn't even remember me. But it's fine. He
- 4:50Speaker 4: recruited me not too hard. But we had a couple
- 4:52Speaker 4: of conversations.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Who's the better football player?
- 4:55Speaker 2: You were?
- 4:55Speaker 3: Billy Price?
- 4:58Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's up for interpretation.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Who's Billy Price?
- 5:01Speaker 5: Billy Price is a center.
- 5:04Speaker 4: He came out the same year as I did, and.
- 5:06Speaker 3: They're both centers, both first round picks if I'm not
- 5:08Speaker 3: mistaken correct, So you guys could have had a little battle.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Yeah, we could have a few, but we were actually
- 5:15Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to say we're boys because
- 5:17Speaker 4: we're on the Boys podcast, but we were kind of
- 5:18Speaker 4: boys at the combine.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, no.
- 5:20Speaker 3: You're the best thing about being the boys, you can
- 5:22Speaker 3: just be. Yeah, that is outside of this podcast.
- 5:24Speaker 5: That is a worldly thing.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Okay, I just didn't you know, I didn't know if
- 5:28Speaker 4: Boys is like something very you know, brgeous boys.
- 5:30Speaker 1: No, it's not what. We didn't come up with that ship.
- 5:33Speaker 3: No, we didn't.
- 5:34Speaker 4: Boys.
- 5:34Speaker 3: No one, no one ever comes up with for the boys,
- 5:36Speaker 3: like if you're either former or against them. You know
- 5:38Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's black and white.
- 5:40Speaker 5: There's no gray area.
- 5:42Speaker 3: I haven't even seen fifty shits great, But that was
- 5:45Speaker 3: so Minnesota of you, Like, I don't know if I
- 5:47Speaker 3: can do this or not? You know the other one there,
- 5:50Speaker 3: my Minnesota.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Hey what what were you? What use? How many stars
- 5:56Speaker 1: did you have coming out? I think I was? Who
- 5:59Speaker 1: who you asking? I'm asking, I'm asking our guests.
- 6:02Speaker 3: I'm asking Scout dot com?
- 6:05Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, Scout and Rivals three.
- 6:08Speaker 4: I was a three star killer?
- 6:10Speaker 1: What about Scout?
- 6:11Speaker 4: Three star? ESP four?
- 6:14Speaker 1: Wow? ESPN wasn't as big when I was younger.
- 6:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
- 6:18Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you what, three star is the
- 6:21Speaker 3: best star because it's like it's enough to get retreated
- 6:24Speaker 3: by the Bay schools, but it's not enough to have
- 6:26Speaker 3: too much of an expectation, So people sleep on you
- 6:29Speaker 3: a little bit more when you're a three star. If
- 6:30Speaker 3: you're a five star, you're fucked from the beginning. Dude,
- 6:33Speaker 3: it is over.
- 6:34Speaker 4: What were you?
- 6:36Speaker 3: I was a So I was a zero star until
- 6:38Speaker 3: my senior year.
- 6:39Speaker 1: That everyone's a zero star.
- 6:41Speaker 3: No, did you have offers when you were a junior.
- 6:45Speaker 1: After my junior year going into my senior year, Yeah,
- 6:47Speaker 1: I did not, so I had no Okay, but we
- 6:49Speaker 1: were still zero stars before we got into the database.
- 6:52Speaker 3: So I was. I ended up at the end being
- 6:55Speaker 3: a four star, ended up and that was a little
- 6:58Speaker 3: too rich for my taste.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I was.
- 6:59Speaker 3: I was sleeping on that three star for a little bit.
- 7:02Speaker 3: So you're a four star, just fucking you wanted to
- 7:04Speaker 3: be a three star?
- 7:05Speaker 4: Will So you've just had life handed to you on
- 7:07Speaker 4: a dinner play kind of Yeah, well, I mean grinded.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Yeah, No, three stars is definitely grind I'm I'm one
- 7:14Speaker 3: of those people that like is just just good at everything, Frank,
- 7:17Speaker 3: and I just is what it is. Yes, Everything's been
- 7:19Speaker 3: handed to me my entire life. I've had zero adversity.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I kind of just have lived on a cushy cloud
- 7:24Speaker 3: of marshmallows and candy canes and it's been amazing. And
- 7:27Speaker 3: so probably shouldn't keep it going at this point, you know,
- 7:30Speaker 3: And there's Will Compton has it hasn't stead a chance
- 7:34Speaker 3: since day one, you know what I'm saying.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Hey, I'll tell you what. You know what, I was
- 7:38Speaker 1: actually a four star. So it's kind of sucks that
- 7:40Speaker 1: I was like a four star and you don't get
- 7:42Speaker 1: drafted being a four star. So you're like, did I
- 7:44Speaker 1: Appliateau in high school? You know what I mean?
- 7:46Speaker 3: Yeah, you're You're like my best friend Nick Bennett. You
- 7:48Speaker 3: you peaked in high school.
- 7:50Speaker 1: You know. I don't argue that high school is a
- 7:52Speaker 1: great time in my life. I would go back to
- 7:53Speaker 1: high school and heartbeat to replay those fucking days, dude, Uner,
- 7:56Speaker 1: the Friday night lights, bro beat, the fucking big fish
- 7:58Speaker 1: out there playing all those little white boys.
- 8:00Speaker 4: In your year of high school was on reel.
- 8:03Speaker 3: It truly, it truly is like the best football ever
- 8:06Speaker 3: isn't it the purest dude figure. I think I like
- 8:10Speaker 3: you better than Kyle Kyless, pretty nicer. We'll put together.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Hey, Kyle's pretty nice Kyle, I mean yeah, maybe got.
- 8:19Speaker 3: That drenching blaze over his eyes though when you look
- 8:21Speaker 3: at when you when you talk to him too long,
- 8:23Speaker 3: he'll just zone out on you.
- 8:24Speaker 4: Is he he is he still with the Redskins? No?
- 8:28Speaker 1: We were in Oakland this past year together?
- 8:31Speaker 4: Okay news? Yeah, I don't know.
- 8:34Speaker 1: He was on the peace squad life out there, dude.
- 8:38Speaker 1: He got cut one time then brought back like a
- 8:39Speaker 1: few weeks later. Such an awkward conversation.
- 8:42Speaker 3: You know what I mean, We're gonna go in a
- 8:45Speaker 3: different direction. J K L O L come back that
- 8:49Speaker 3: type of thing.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's like, hey man, good to
- 8:54Speaker 1: see you back, dude. Yeah, he's like, yeah, you know
- 8:58Speaker 1: how it is. I'm like, fuck, it's a tough life
- 9:00Speaker 1: to live, bro, living on that peace spot life.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:03Speaker 3: How many uses Caylevin in the league? Like three or four?
- 9:06Speaker 4: Right?
- 9:07Speaker 1: I think his rookie year is my last year the
- 9:10Speaker 1: Scancels since twenty seventeen, so eighteen nineteen this is gonna
- 9:14Speaker 1: be four Yeah.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Wow, what year is this for you guys.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Going on eight?
- 9:19Speaker 4: Old heads?
- 9:21Speaker 3: Yeah, Will's got eight. This will be my third season.
- 9:24Speaker 1: No, it's shut the fuck up my third season.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Bro.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Oh dude, it's us with the same draft class.
- 9:30Speaker 1: No, I'm going to You're going on your seven, right.
- 9:32Speaker 3: I know, dude. It's crazy when like year seven, you
- 9:35Speaker 3: just gotta I got a ring to it. Dude, when
- 9:38Speaker 3: you hit five, you're like, I'm over that hump. I'm
- 9:41Speaker 3: on the hump. Actually that's seven. You feel like a
- 9:44Speaker 3: you kind of do feel like a vet. You know
- 9:46Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Well, how were you treated.
- 9:48Speaker 2: When you were a rookie?
- 9:49Speaker 3: Was it like? Was it no holds bar?
- 9:51Speaker 4: Like?
- 9:52Speaker 3: Would you have Larry Warford?
- 9:54Speaker 1: No?
- 9:54Speaker 3: You didn't have Larry?
- 9:56Speaker 4: No, I didn't have I was after Larry? Who did I?
- 9:58Speaker 4: I had T J Lang?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Oh I bet that was a trip.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 10:02Speaker 4: Interesting? Uh Rick Wagner, Graham, you know Graham Glasgow, Dude.
- 10:06Speaker 5: That's my absolutely like, I love him, that's my homie.
- 10:09Speaker 4: He's one of the most interesting people in the world,
- 10:11Speaker 4: I think.
- 10:11Speaker 3: So, yeah, he is such like you meet him and
- 10:14Speaker 3: you're like, how awkward is this guy? When you first
- 10:16Speaker 3: talked to him?
- 10:16Speaker 4: Awkward but hilarious.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Hilarious dude. The more you like kind of like are
- 10:21Speaker 3: around him, you start to understand a sense of humor.
- 10:23Speaker 3: And he is so so funny. He reminds me of
- 10:27Speaker 3: your friend Brad Will, Like he kind of just makes
- 10:28Speaker 3: fun of himself the whole timeating human. He's like the
- 10:32Speaker 3: butt of every time. And he talks about like literally,
- 10:36Speaker 3: if you listen, if he were to narrate his own life,
- 10:38Speaker 3: it's basically him talking about like how shit never goes right.
- 10:41Speaker 3: It's awful, it's amazing. Graham is Grahama's all time. He
- 10:45Speaker 3: got married in February.
- 10:47Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, dude.
- 10:49Speaker 3: He's his wife's awesome Alice. She went to Michigan. That
- 10:53Speaker 3: whole crew is that whole cruise epic dude. Who Glasgow family, Dude,
- 10:56Speaker 3: They're just the Glasgow clan is.
- 10:57Speaker 4: Strong, good family.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Dude. All walk ons you think by the last one
- 11:01Speaker 3: they say, Hey, do just fuck give this guy a scholarship.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna earn one anyway. Graham came in
- 11:08Speaker 3: as a walk on, will earns a Scollie. His next
- 11:10Speaker 3: brother comes in Earns a Scollie. Both start both in
- 11:13Speaker 3: the NFL. Then Jordi, the youngest comes in, didn't give
- 11:16Speaker 3: him a scholarship, walked on and now he's he got
- 11:20Speaker 3: drafted in the sixth round this year.
- 11:23Speaker 1: The whole family got drafted, so all of them just
- 11:25Speaker 1: had to be walk on.
- 11:26Speaker 3: All of them were walk ons, like people who have
- 11:29Speaker 3: lived a completely privileged life. Flight myself look at people
- 11:31Speaker 3: like that and be like, wow, it must have been tough.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. That walk on life is a grind
- 11:37Speaker 1: in itself.
- 11:37Speaker 5: Too, no question, no question.
- 11:40Speaker 3: So what TJ Lang, big old beer gut, great head
- 11:45Speaker 3: of hair, amazing beard. What was he like, probably had
- 11:50Speaker 3: a chewing constantly.
- 11:52Speaker 4: Yeah, that's correct.
- 11:53Speaker 3: How did he How did he treat you?
- 11:54Speaker 4: Like?
- 11:55Speaker 3: When when you how was your first couple of days
- 11:58Speaker 3: when you walked in? You that's for the first time
- 12:00Speaker 3: because I don't know about you will, but I remember
- 12:01Speaker 3: it like it was my like like yesterday, Oh, you're
- 12:04Speaker 3: sweating bullets.
- 12:05Speaker 1: You're nervous as I don't even want to go back
- 12:07Speaker 1: to that fear like it is a fear bubble, just
- 12:10Speaker 1: having to.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Like chain shirts in between each meeting because you're just nervous.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Yeah, you you like go in and the coaches are
- 12:16Speaker 3: asking you questions and you can't get one right. But everybody,
- 12:20Speaker 3: for some reason knows the playbook way better than you,
- 12:22Speaker 3: even the other rookies. You're like, how do you guys
- 12:24Speaker 3: already know this? Did you guys like get something I
- 12:25Speaker 3: didn't get? It just feels like that all the time,
- 12:28Speaker 3: doesn't it.
- 12:29Speaker 4: Yeah, hell of an experience.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Talk about your rookie year.
- 12:34Speaker 4: Uh, it was tough, I'd say, but TJ was actually
- 12:39Speaker 4: really cool. He was that was his last year, so
- 12:42Speaker 4: I think he was kind of like partially like soaking
- 12:45Speaker 4: it in, but he had He also had a lot
- 12:47Speaker 4: of injuries and stuff and whatnot, so it was kind
- 12:50Speaker 4: of a tougher year for him. But he helped me
- 12:51Speaker 4: out a lot because I was a center in college
- 12:54Speaker 4: and then the day after they drafted me, they called
- 12:56Speaker 4: me and they said you're gonna play left guard. So
- 12:59Speaker 4: then I was kind of like learning that and he
- 13:01Speaker 4: kind of mentored me a lot there. But I was
- 13:03Speaker 4: also with like Castle, Matt Castle, you guys, have you
- 13:06Speaker 4: guys play with him at all? Beauty on the like,
- 13:11Speaker 4: funniest dude I've ever met. Right, He's a good he
- 13:14Speaker 4: was a good bet to have. He was hilarious and
- 13:16Speaker 4: here he lighted things up. But it was a I mean,
- 13:18Speaker 4: it was a it was a long year as for
- 13:21Speaker 4: sure that you felt like it never was gonna end,
- 13:24Speaker 4: but it was good.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Is it tough going from center to guard?
- 13:28Speaker 4: I think it's it's tough. I think in the run game,
- 13:32Speaker 4: not much of it, not that crazy of a difference.
- 13:34Speaker 4: But in terms of like pass pro like understanding, like
- 13:38Speaker 4: your balance and your footwork, it's a little bit more different.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Easier or harder, which one? Which one is the easier spot?
- 13:46Speaker 3: Physically?
- 13:47Speaker 4: Center is the easiest one physically center, But like then center,
- 13:52Speaker 4: there's the mental aspect that people don't realize.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Is it pretty? You gotta be insanely smart playing center?
- 13:59Speaker 1: Is it kind of like, you know, being a middle linebacker?
- 14:02Speaker 4: I like to think so, yeah.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Like you like again, not that you bring it up, well,
- 14:09Speaker 3: it is kind of like being a middle linebacker actually
- 14:10Speaker 3: more than a quarterback.
- 14:13Speaker 1: What was your uh, you're a first rounder? What was
- 14:15Speaker 1: your bill on your rookie dinner? I want to know
- 14:20Speaker 1: this with Taylor too.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Mine was four thousand, but then tip and then we
- 14:26Speaker 4: also had a party bus and alcohol in the party bus,
- 14:30Speaker 4: so I think it probably ended up being like six
- 14:32Speaker 4: but maybe. But then I had a fifth rounder, Tyler
- 14:35Speaker 4: Crosby too, so he helped out a little, so it
- 14:37Speaker 4: wasn't terrible fuck due the fifth rounder. Yeah, he helped
- 14:43Speaker 4: out with like the drinks. I think that's it.
- 14:46Speaker 3: Sounds like you have a terrible culture in Detroit. We
- 14:48Speaker 3: should really dig into that because.
- 14:49Speaker 1: So, you know, six thousand bucks for a full room
- 14:54Speaker 1: of O Lineman Taylor, what was your? What was your?
- 14:56Speaker 3: I actually got a comment like we my week was
- 15:00Speaker 3: suposed to be Bob's Steakhouse and that's like the most
- 15:02Speaker 3: expensive steakhouse in Nashville, and I walked in and there
- 15:05Speaker 3: was like bottles everywhere. But it actually ended up being
- 15:08Speaker 3: Mettenberger's week that week. So I'm thinking here sweating the
- 15:10Speaker 3: whole time. Then they started doing the numbers and Zach
- 15:12Speaker 3: Mettenberger had to pay for that one the next week.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Oh random farm place. It was like eighteen hundred bucks.
- 15:19Speaker 3: And they did the best they could. They did the
- 15:21Speaker 3: best they could do it.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Oh my god, yo, you lucky I had.
- 15:27Speaker 3: I had a real tough room. Two ten year vets.
- 15:30Speaker 3: One of the ten year vets was Michael Ruse, who literally,
- 15:32Speaker 3: like Ken wizzen Hunt drafted me and was like, you're
- 15:34Speaker 3: gonna replace. This is the guy you're gonna replace. I'm
- 15:36Speaker 3: just like, hey, Mike, like we be friends. He was cool.
- 15:40Speaker 3: He was cool to me, but it was like it
- 15:41Speaker 3: was definitely like a very hard being a rookie, like
- 15:45Speaker 3: in that kind of situation, Like it was awkward as
- 15:48Speaker 3: all hell. But you guys, you said a fifth round
- 15:51Speaker 3: you were a first round pick and you had to
- 15:53Speaker 3: split a dinner with a fifth round pick. Do you
- 15:54Speaker 3: guys go to dinner in a week then split it?
- 15:57Speaker 1: No? Okay, just tell us the numbers. Tell us the numbers.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Paint this story, dude? Is you this podcast is your
- 16:02Speaker 1: fucking canvas?
- 16:03Speaker 4: Bro? I think uh, I think he Here's what I
- 16:06Speaker 4: told him. I pay for the majority of everything, and
- 16:08Speaker 4: he organized, so I didn't. I didn't want to do
- 16:11Speaker 4: any of the organizing. So he booked the bus. I
- 16:13Speaker 4: think he bought some of the alcohol, and then I
- 16:17Speaker 4: pity for everything else.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Do you have any stories that was the best story
- 16:21Speaker 1: of the night? Hm, you have a best story of
- 16:24Speaker 1: the night? Is there a big memory that fucking stands out? Nah?
- 16:27Speaker 4: Dude, I mean we didn't win many ball games that season,
- 16:30Speaker 4: so it's not like we were, and I think we haven't.
- 16:32Speaker 4: Really we did it during the during the week or
- 16:36Speaker 4: I think it was after Thanksgiving and I saw that
- 16:38Speaker 4: subtle shot. So take it easy.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Hey, we've all been on some losing teams. Yeah, you know,
- 16:44Speaker 1: he not hiss drought. I mean it's drought out.
- 16:48Speaker 3: There, and it's a drought out there in Detroit. Dude,
- 16:51Speaker 3: it's tough. It's tough sledting. I respect the hell of it.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Like my first season two and fourteen, second season three
- 16:57Speaker 3: and thirteen, literally like people were celebrating when we won
- 17:01Speaker 3: three games my second year.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Really it's a.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Tough little gig. But myoay, uh, that's a tough division too.
- 17:09Speaker 4: Black and Blue. Yeah, there's some uh, there's some good football.
- 17:12Speaker 4: There's some good defensive lines in that division.
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- 19:33Speaker 3: Let me tell you, yeah, no question, dude. That like
- 19:37Speaker 3: Packers got those like two guys that have the same
- 19:39Speaker 3: last name with the Preston and Smith Bros. The Smith
- 19:43Speaker 3: b Smith, There's Skins, there's Studs obviously have Max City
- 19:49Speaker 3: and the other guy go Dogs. Then who else Minnesota, Everson, Griffin, Hunter,
- 19:55Speaker 3: those dude like you like every single time, like you
- 19:57Speaker 3: get that's six games a year, You're like, well, fuck
- 20:01Speaker 3: my life.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Those dudes on Minnesota look like fucking gladiators too, dude.
- 20:06Speaker 3: I Hunter his like rookie year, his second year didn't even.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Look that bait dude.
- 20:10Speaker 3: And now I saw a picture like like Minnesota's calendar
- 20:14Speaker 3: came out and someone retweeted it and it was just
- 20:16Speaker 3: him with like seventeenth veins coiling up his bicep, and
- 20:20Speaker 3: I was like, yes, this, dude, It's so weird when
- 20:22Speaker 3: you see how many different body types are in the NFL.
- 20:25Speaker 3: You look at an off its line and you're like, okay, yeah,
- 20:27Speaker 3: bell cow get it done.
- 20:28Speaker 4: But like Frank Sturdy, I'd say I'm a cut lean, thick,
- 20:33Speaker 4: cut lean thick.
- 20:35Speaker 3: I loved.
- 20:36Speaker 5: I love the contradiction that.
- 20:38Speaker 4: C lean thing. Taylor.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Should we try to get him to do what we
- 20:41Speaker 1: tried every guest.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, take your shirt off. Let's see what we
- 20:43Speaker 3: got going on here. This guy's und stand. Oh yeah,
- 20:49Speaker 3: you got you got your firm he got.
- 20:52Speaker 4: God, Well, then you go like below that and then
- 20:56Speaker 4: you gotta be careful.
- 20:58Speaker 1: You got some good lighting going on. It's hitting your.
- 21:01Speaker 5: Shoulder van and everything.
- 21:03Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, dude, your autumn leaf everywhere, like
- 21:05Speaker 3: even your body's autumn leaf.
- 21:07Speaker 4: That's a little red. What do you do you.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Know that?
- 21:12Speaker 3: I think that comes with the territory of being autumn leaf.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Hey, congratulate the first one who's actually taking their shirt off.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Joe Staley wouldn't do it. Who else would do it?
- 21:21Speaker 3: Chris Long would do it? And you think Chris Long
- 21:22Speaker 3: would be like Chris Long's body, I'd be like, I
- 21:25Speaker 3: wouldn't even be wearing a.
- 21:26Speaker 4: Shirt right now.
- 21:28Speaker 1: And you're retired.
- 21:31Speaker 4: You grow that.
- 21:32Speaker 3: You should grow that hair out.
- 21:33Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
- 21:34Speaker 4: Are tough? Tough? Look I've been keeping the hat on.
- 21:39Speaker 4: It's bad. Don't cut your own hair during quarantine.
- 21:42Speaker 3: No, I haven't cut my hair in a while. These little,
- 21:44Speaker 3: these little feathers in the back here, dude, I worked
- 21:46Speaker 3: out this morning at six a m.
- 21:49Speaker 5: Had a run.
- 21:49Speaker 3: At eight a m. Had meetings and put my daughter down.
- 21:53Speaker 3: Have not showered yet. I'm disgusting, dude.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Are you wearing Spandex two?
- 21:58Speaker 3: Are you wearing shorts like they're Nike shorts but they
- 22:01Speaker 3: like have like you know when you wear like swim
- 22:03Speaker 3: suits and have their own little web blue area.
- 22:06Speaker 5: Yeah, I got that.
- 22:07Speaker 1: That's all you're fucking wearing.
- 22:08Speaker 3: That's all I got.
- 22:09Speaker 4: Dude.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Oh, you're disgusting, dude.
- 22:11Speaker 3: I'm disgusting.
- 22:13Speaker 4: Bro.
- 22:13Speaker 1: When I'm wearing Spandex and I start sitting down, you
- 22:15Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of get that aura and
- 22:17Speaker 1: you're just like, I need.
- 22:18Speaker 4: To get the fuck out of here. Dude.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Dude, When I sweat and I sit down and Spandex
- 22:21Speaker 3: after I have sweat and the sweat dryes, I have
- 22:23Speaker 3: the itchiest ass ever. Do you ever get that? Or
- 22:28Speaker 3: am I soul? Am I all by myself right now?
- 22:30Speaker 3: I'm all by myself. I am sitting in a canoe
- 22:32Speaker 3: by myself in the middle of Now.
- 22:33Speaker 1: How about this? Is it? Is it a cheek that
- 22:36Speaker 1: really gets really itchy? Yeah?
- 22:37Speaker 3: It's not the hole. The holes when you don't wipe
- 22:39Speaker 3: it off that's that's clear cut done. It's the cheek.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Out there like a dog scooting on the ground in
- 22:44Speaker 1: that hole.
- 22:45Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Like David Lee's dogged this past Saturday.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, uh Frank, do you know a mirror Abdullah?
- 22:52Speaker 1: Was he there when you got there?
- 22:54Speaker 4: Yeah? I was there my rookie year.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, oh awesome, dude. A Mere's fucking all time dude.
- 22:59Speaker 1: But he fucking always talked about Detroit and living out
- 23:03Speaker 1: in Detroit and just how grimy it was. What's it
- 23:06Speaker 1: like living out in Detroit? How shitty and grimy it was.
- 23:12Speaker 3: In his head? He's like, man, I really don't like
- 23:14Speaker 3: Detroit that much, but I can't say nothing.
- 23:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an outdoorsman. I'm a fisherman.
- 23:20Speaker 3: So the city is perfect.
- 23:21Speaker 4: In Michigan, is like, and so I live in Minnesota
- 23:24Speaker 4: and then I and then Michigan. For Detroit, that's like
- 23:28Speaker 4: living the outdoorsman's paradise. So I love it. Like there's
- 23:31Speaker 4: some unreal fishing in Michigan. So I love it.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Where we go, we got some Detroit love.
- 23:37Speaker 3: We got a little bit of Detroit love.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Dude.
- 23:39Speaker 3: That's epic. You were so you you you you fancy
- 23:41Speaker 3: yourself a hunter?
- 23:42Speaker 4: Huh oh, fisherman hunter. Grizzly Man Outdoors boys, Hey.
- 23:46Speaker 3: This was perfect. It's his, it's his, it's your company.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his YouTube. He has a YouTube channel call
- 23:54Speaker 1: what is it?
- 23:55Speaker 4: Grizzly Man Outdoors.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Grizzly Man Outdoors. I was actually watching a couple of
- 23:59Speaker 1: his videos everything.
- 24:00Speaker 5: I like everything, but tell the story which.
- 24:04Speaker 4: One we talk about?
- 24:05Speaker 1: Grizzly Man Outdoors dude.
- 24:07Speaker 4: So, I've always been a fisherman. My brother, my dad,
- 24:11Speaker 4: we kind of all have been fishing, and the goal
- 24:14Speaker 4: for me growing up was always to be like make
- 24:16Speaker 4: it to the NFL and then have my own fishing
- 24:19Speaker 4: show with my dad and my younger brother. And actually
- 24:23Speaker 4: my dad died of a sun heart attack my junior
- 24:26Speaker 4: year of college. So it was kind of terrible because
- 24:29Speaker 4: it was right when I was like starting to realize
- 24:31Speaker 4: that I got a shot in the NFL and all
- 24:33Speaker 4: that stuff. So then that's when I decided to actually
- 24:36Speaker 4: take it under the take it, make it real, and
- 24:39Speaker 4: launch grizzly Man out of Doors. And it's basically just
- 24:41Speaker 4: me making some terrible go pro videos trying to catch fish.
- 24:45Speaker 4: It's it's on the come up. I'd say five years
- 24:48Speaker 4: from now, you guys are going to be talking about
- 24:49Speaker 4: Grizzly Man Outdoors.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like, while we wildly underestimated that show. Uh huh, yep, exactly,
- 24:54Speaker 3: but not anymore. I'm gonna subscribe to hell O of
- 24:56Speaker 3: that thing.
- 24:57Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was looking. I don't know why it'subscribe,
- 25:00Speaker 1: no disrespect.
- 25:01Speaker 4: I apologize your.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Ghost Hey he was ghost watching you, dude.
- 25:04Speaker 1: He he fell through the ice. I saw that most
- 25:07Speaker 1: popular one you have, butty two thousand views. I fucking
- 25:09Speaker 1: love it.
- 25:10Speaker 4: That just shows the quality of my vis There's like
- 25:12Speaker 4: three hundred, four hundred views, one seven hundred, maybe a thousand,
- 25:16Speaker 4: and then the one where I don't catch any fish
- 25:18Speaker 4: and I fall through the ice thirty two thousand.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love the fucking perseverance, Like it doesn't matter,
- 25:24Speaker 1: Wow how many views, Like you're fucking posting away did
- 25:27Speaker 1: I'm grinding?
- 25:29Speaker 5: I absolutely love that.
- 25:29Speaker 3: I want hunting for the first time this past weekend
- 25:34Speaker 3: for Turkey, but it wasn't my first time. The first
- 25:37Speaker 3: someone went hunting, I was sat in a deer stand
- 25:39Speaker 3: for like six hours, saw a bunny rabbit and a butterfly,
- 25:41Speaker 3: and I was like, this is.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Not for me.
- 25:43Speaker 3: But then I started saying, you saw what a butterfly
- 25:45Speaker 3: and a flower, a butterfly and a bunny rabbit. I'm
- 25:48Speaker 3: like literally holding the scope like watching the butter butterfly
- 25:51Speaker 3: move around, and I'm like, he what if I just
- 25:54Speaker 3: dusted this butterfly and called it a day? You know,
- 25:57Speaker 3: ended up not doing it. Level of heads prevailed. I
- 26:00Speaker 3: went turkey hunting, dude, and I'm honestly, I think I'm hooked.
- 26:04Speaker 3: It's awesome.
- 26:05Speaker 4: It's a real interactive hunt. It's cool. Did you like
- 26:08Speaker 4: call him in and everything?
- 26:09Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 26:09Speaker 5: I didn't call I didn't do nothing.
- 26:10Speaker 3: I sat there like a good little boy, like like
- 26:12Speaker 3: a ten year old with his dad, and uh four
- 26:15Speaker 3: time went Chattaford George. He he did the whole thing
- 26:19Speaker 3: like he was sitting there.
- 26:20Speaker 5: We didn't see a turkey. I like, there was like
- 26:22Speaker 5: we saw a.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Couple of Jake's, a couple hens. Not a tom to
- 26:26Speaker 3: be seen, but it was.
- 26:27Speaker 1: It was.
- 26:28Speaker 3: It was fun. It's the social part of it, right,
- 26:31Speaker 3: the boys the night before, waking up early, That's that
- 26:34Speaker 3: was the fun part.
- 26:35Speaker 5: So I thought I was gonna murder a Turkey. I
- 26:37Speaker 5: never got the opportunity, and next year, no.
- 26:40Speaker 1: One says you got you got some merch coming out?
- 26:44Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, dude, Hey, you got to do
- 26:47Speaker 1: this right man, you're on this fucking you're on this pod.
- 26:49Speaker 1: You got to promote your fucking brand. Don't be shy
- 26:52Speaker 1: about boys.
- 26:53Speaker 4: I'm sorry, boys, I'm trying to be respectful.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Don't be Oh.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Day, we're all about being disrespectful on this podcast.
- 27:00Speaker 4: I saw that. I saw that with the ar Kansas
- 27:04Speaker 4: messed up still.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Because that still got you. Huh that was like twenty
- 27:08Speaker 3: minutes ago.
- 27:09Speaker 4: Dude. It's like, oh wow, you're climbing in my head. Anyways,
- 27:12Speaker 4: Grizzly Mon out Doors is coming out with some apparels soon.
- 27:15Speaker 4: I'm not usually, I'm not like, here's the deal people,
- 27:17Speaker 4: when you buy this apparel, you're not like putting money
- 27:20Speaker 4: in my pocket. I'm just putting the money right back
- 27:22Speaker 4: out to help help buy me some go pros and
- 27:24Speaker 4: maybe make the show look a little bit better. So
- 27:26Speaker 4: we're gonna launch some hasks, some T shirts, sweatshirts, nothing crazy,
- 27:30Speaker 4: and get this show on the road.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Can only buy so many pros, though, can only buy
- 27:35Speaker 3: so many quality things. Eventually that money is gonna go
- 27:37Speaker 3: in your pocket.
- 27:38Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, you can get hopefully, hey hopefully
- 27:41Speaker 1: don't say no, like, yeah, that's what you want to do?
- 27:43Speaker 1: Do you what we want to do with this?
- 27:44Speaker 4: Do you want?
- 27:45Speaker 3: Do you want to make money in my pocket?
- 27:47Speaker 4: Sorry?
- 27:48Speaker 3: Okay, it's got away money for free, that's all.
- 27:53Speaker 1: Do you?
- 27:54Speaker 4: Yeah? No doubt.
- 27:57Speaker 1: On Instagram?
- 27:57Speaker 4: You got Instagram at grizlyof Twitter at Team grizzly Man.
- 28:03Speaker 4: What else? YouTube? YouTube is where we need help. You
- 28:06Speaker 4: gotta subscribe on YouTube?
- 28:08Speaker 1: He needs Oh you got ten thousand followers on Instagram.
- 28:11Speaker 4: We're legit.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Oh you just got fucking another one.
- 28:15Speaker 4: That's self made too. Now that's like that's been grinding.
- 28:18Speaker 4: Like there's some small fish and we're slowly getting the
- 28:20Speaker 4: bigger and bigger fish, and you know, we're climbing.
- 28:23Speaker 3: So the more followers you have, the bigger the fish
- 28:25Speaker 3: you catches.
- 28:25Speaker 4: That how fishing works, Yep, it reaches success. It all correlates.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Jeez, how much since you've done that, how how many
- 28:33Speaker 1: like different brands or people have probably reached out to
- 28:35Speaker 1: you to go fish or like do anything on their
- 28:37Speaker 1: farm or lake or whatever the fuck.
- 28:39Speaker 4: Yeah, It's sweet actually, just like with my platform in
- 28:42Speaker 4: the NFL too, just being able and then they see
- 28:44Speaker 4: that I'm an outdoorsman. Like there's just random fans in
- 28:47Speaker 4: Michigan that will reach out and say, hey, come up
- 28:49Speaker 4: to the up and catch some big lake trout and whatnot.
- 28:52Speaker 4: And I've had like a I've met a bunch of
- 28:54Speaker 4: people through Grizzly Man, which is pretty cool.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Have you gone to the Up?
- 28:57Speaker 4: No, I haven't. I heard it's absolutely beautiful, though I heard.
- 29:00Speaker 5: The same thing.
- 29:00Speaker 3: I never there, I know, so when I was in
- 29:03Speaker 3: I totally messed up when I was at Michigan, but
- 29:04Speaker 3: I literally never left ann Arbor. I was like Ann
- 29:07Speaker 3: Arbur and Ipsiloni and that was it. I go back.
- 29:09Speaker 3: I do so many more things.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Yeah, ann Arbur's pretty sweet though, I can't blame you there.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Do you ever go out to the bars around there?
- 29:16Speaker 4: Uh? No, not really.
- 29:19Speaker 3: We were, Uh what's this this dude from Iowa? What
- 29:22Speaker 3: was his name? Riley Reef? Yeah, Riley Riley Reef. Yeah,
- 29:27Speaker 3: he got drafted like thirteenth overall to the Lions, and
- 29:31Speaker 3: Graham Glasgow like ran into him at Rick's American Cafe
- 29:36Speaker 3: in in Uh. Ann Arbor and it's like super small town,
- 29:39Speaker 3: Like it's just football players, Like we're the coolest guys there.
- 29:41Speaker 3: And this dude's like got money, throwing, like buying shots,
- 29:45Speaker 3: like doing it all. Like the way Graham tells the
- 29:48Speaker 3: story is like it was the coolest thing that ever
- 29:49Speaker 3: happened him. Probably still is to this day. And now
- 29:52Speaker 3: he's in Denver with a fatty contract.
- 29:54Speaker 4: He got paid four years forty four.
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- 32:14Speaker 3: Do you ever sit there in daydream about like your
- 32:16Speaker 3: next contract and like think all the GoPros you can buy?
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- 32:51Speaker 3: whether they want to pick that up or not.
- 32:52Speaker 1: Is that?
- 32:53Speaker 4: How is that how it works? It's after your third.
- 32:55Speaker 3: So after your third year, going into your fourth year,
- 32:57Speaker 3: they'll decide whether they want to pick up your fifth
- 32:58Speaker 3: year option by.
- 32:59Speaker 4: Like may cool. And then did you get extended before
- 33:03Speaker 4: as you get picked up? How did you work?
- 33:04Speaker 3: So I got they picked up my fifth year option
- 33:06Speaker 3: going into my third I played my fourth and going
- 33:09Speaker 3: into my fifth that's when I got extended.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Cool?
- 33:13Speaker 3: And so like the fifth year option is guaranteed their injury,
- 33:15Speaker 3: it's it's it's a good contract. I'll tell you what
- 33:17Speaker 3: the best pick in the draft is the thirty third
- 33:20Speaker 3: overall pick, first pick, second round because you don't have
- 33:22Speaker 3: it have to deal with any of the you know,
- 33:25Speaker 3: fifth year option type stuff like first round stuff like that.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Is it's cool to be a first rounder, don't get
- 33:30Speaker 3: me wrong, it's amazing. But like as far as like
- 33:32Speaker 3: new contract, second contracts, like just strictly putting money in
- 33:36Speaker 3: your pocket. The fastest route is that thirty third pick.
- 33:40Speaker 1: Yeah, however you can get the unrestricted free agency, yeah, Taylor,
- 33:43Speaker 1: as as possible, Taylor. So they basically decided after your
- 33:48Speaker 1: third year they're going to pick up your fifth year option.
- 33:50Speaker 1: You played your fourth knowing that your fifth year option
- 33:53Speaker 1: was picked up. So then after your fourth that's when
- 33:56Speaker 1: you renegotiated for an extension. Right, did did that fifth
- 33:59Speaker 1: year like conclude the first year of your contract?
- 34:02Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 34:03Speaker 3: So when you get extended, when when you like, someone
- 34:05Speaker 3: signs an extension, it's not like like if they signed
- 34:08Speaker 3: a four year extension, well, it's four years plus however
- 34:11Speaker 3: many years they have left on their contract. Some guys
- 34:13Speaker 3: sign up with two years left, so if it's a
- 34:14Speaker 3: four extension, it's a six total, six years total, right,
- 34:18Speaker 3: mm hmm. So I had one year left on my
- 34:19Speaker 3: contract with a five year extension. Little long, it's a
- 34:24Speaker 3: it's a little long, but I'm I do love being
- 34:27Speaker 3: in Tennessee, so it's all good. You would love Tennessee, dude,
- 34:30Speaker 3: you're an outdoorsman. You would absolutely love this.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Broh. He looks like he's in Tennessee right now.
- 34:34Speaker 2: He does.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Now that the back of the My dad's from me
- 34:37Speaker 3: Din in Minnesota, and I went to his like his
- 34:38Speaker 3: childhood spots, and I feel like the BA, like you
- 34:41Speaker 3: might be in his house right now. That's so Minnesota
- 34:43Speaker 3: back there. He's got he went to an high he
- 34:47Speaker 3: went to the U.
- 34:48Speaker 4: Has he ever been referred to as a cake eater?
- 34:51Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he has, son of a pitch dad fucking
- 34:55Speaker 3: cake eater. Dude, that's bullshow.
- 34:57Speaker 1: What's what's it like? Uh so you were there when
- 35:00Speaker 1: you they transition to coach Patricia, right, what's it been
- 35:04Speaker 1: like playing for coach Patricia?
- 35:06Speaker 4: He's uh, he's old school. He's old school, and he's
- 35:09Speaker 4: like a football junkie like Liz Breeze.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Seems like that mustache.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Loves ball, loves ball, and I mean that's kind of
- 35:17Speaker 4: like my game really is just kind of tough, old
- 35:20Speaker 4: school football. I'm not like some crazy, freaky athletic player.
- 35:23Speaker 4: I'm not like some finesse, amazing past pro guy. I'm
- 35:27Speaker 4: kind of just like a bruiser, kind of just play hard,
- 35:30Speaker 4: kind of tough player. And that's I like that. I
- 35:33Speaker 4: like his I like his approach to the game. I
- 35:35Speaker 4: think football is an old school sport. It's a physical
- 35:38Speaker 4: violence sport and that's how he approaches it. So I
- 35:41Speaker 4: really enjoyed playing for him.
- 35:43Speaker 1: That's awesome. Who who would you say you you look
- 35:46Speaker 1: at around the league and want to kind of mimic
- 35:48Speaker 1: your game after Who do you watch the most?
- 35:52Speaker 4: I watched Jason Kelsey. He's a little smaller, like, more
- 35:56Speaker 4: athletic than me, but he's He's just a good player
- 35:59Speaker 4: to watch technique wise, he uses so many different things.
- 36:01Speaker 4: I watched Travis Frederick a lot before he retired. I
- 36:07Speaker 4: watched Eric Wood a lot. He's retired obviously now, but
- 36:10Speaker 4: he was a good player and he's kind of the
- 36:11Speaker 4: same size as me.
- 36:13Speaker 3: So we'll get them curly cues. Do you are you
- 36:16Speaker 3: playing center?
- 36:17Speaker 1: Now?
- 36:17Speaker 5: You're playing guard? Still center? So yeah, you're back in
- 36:20Speaker 5: that zone for sure.
- 36:24Speaker 4: Center. Yeah ticks me back to center my year?
- 36:30Speaker 3: Who like? So, who do you think you're most like
- 36:32Speaker 3: in the league?
- 36:33Speaker 4: Most like? I don't know. Frank.
- 36:36Speaker 1: If you wrote an article on yourself and it was Frank,
- 36:41Speaker 1: that was a solid joke, dude. If you wrote an
- 36:45Speaker 1: article on yourself and it was comparaive, comparable, or comparison,
- 36:48Speaker 1: who would it be?
- 36:49Speaker 4: I can't even tell you, man, I don't I think
- 36:52Speaker 4: I'm pretty unique?
- 36:54Speaker 2: Oh?
- 36:54Speaker 1: I like that?
- 36:55Speaker 4: Okay, I played hard, nothing flashy, Like I'm not. I'm
- 36:58Speaker 4: not pretty, but I get the job done. So someone
- 37:01Speaker 4: like that, you.
- 37:03Speaker 3: Want to stay in Detroit for your whole career or what?
- 37:05Speaker 4: I have no idea, dude. I love the city, I
- 37:08Speaker 4: love the people, love the coaches, love Lake Saint Clair.
- 37:11Speaker 4: You ever hear of Lake Saint Clair? Oh? One of
- 37:14Speaker 4: the best fisheries in the world. So really, yeah, you.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Do what state? What state has the best fishing?
- 37:21Speaker 4: Minnesota?
- 37:23Speaker 3: Minnesota, the land of ten thousand Lakes?
- 37:26Speaker 4: Ten thousand Lakes.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Bro?
- 37:27Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Like I don't fucking know everything.
- 37:32Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, have you ever been up north? You guys
- 37:37Speaker 4: got to now take the Boys, take the Boys podcast,
- 37:40Speaker 4: download some like five g LTE or something, and do
- 37:43Speaker 4: a couple of podcasts up in the boundary waters. That
- 37:45Speaker 4: will get you some more subscribers and stuff. Unreal. I'll
- 37:48Speaker 4: tell you.
- 37:49Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Taylor and I need to look
- 37:50Speaker 1: at doing like outdooring with the Boys something like that.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Maybe you maybe get some talent, find some talent who
- 37:55Speaker 1: could probably take that thing off the ground, dude.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Camping with the Boys, camping with the boys bad. You're welcome.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Let's get Frank out. Maybe it's Frank. We put Frank
- 38:04Speaker 1: up there in the tent and get somebody to just
- 38:06Speaker 1: film him all the time, and we just fucking make
- 38:07Speaker 1: more content.
- 38:10Speaker 3: Anything for content, Frank, anything for you should do. You
- 38:13Speaker 3: should honestly do a podcast. Why not. You have a
- 38:15Speaker 3: you have a YouTube channel, you do it all. Yeah,
- 38:18Speaker 3: merch already you're two thirds of the way there.
- 38:20Speaker 4: You're right, that's probably next. I mean, let's be honest,
- 38:23Speaker 4: that's the unforeseen future. But I don't even know what
- 38:25Speaker 4: I would say, Like, what's up? I'm Frank right now.
- 38:28Speaker 4: I play football and I like to fish. I live
- 38:31Speaker 4: in my mom's basement. How's it going.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about all your stories, man, all your hunting
- 38:35Speaker 1: and fishing story.
- 38:36Speaker 3: That was that was your bio just now you just
- 38:38Speaker 3: crushed it.
- 38:38Speaker 4: Yeah that's true. Dang, you get you guys are building
- 38:41Speaker 4: me up. I appreciate this.
- 38:42Speaker 3: That's what we started. See, we started off breaking you down,
- 38:45Speaker 3: came out you're real fast. Yeah, right, seven seven shapes
- 38:48Speaker 3: of smoke or seven layers of smoke.
- 38:50Speaker 5: Now we're here.
- 38:50Speaker 3: Now we're working as a group. I'll tell you what
- 38:53Speaker 3: you can tell people you know, I'm a I'm a
- 38:56Speaker 3: hard working football player. I you know, what you see
- 39:01Speaker 3: is what you get. But I also watched Travis uh
- 39:03Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, which does not Travis Kelsey. Who's who's the
- 39:05Speaker 3: other side of Jason Kelsey. I watched Jason Kelsey, which
- 39:09Speaker 3: makes zero sense because that guy's actually really flashy, flashy
- 39:11Speaker 3: and finesse. I'm kind of like I'm I'm old school.
- 39:16Speaker 3: I'm old school guy. But you can't compare me to
- 39:18Speaker 3: anybody because I'm Frank. But I'm old school. I do
- 39:20Speaker 3: everything the way the old guys did it. But don't
- 39:22Speaker 3: compare me to anybody. I'm Frank. I'm just Frank. It's
- 39:26Speaker 3: just I'm just Frank. Here's a bunch of things about
- 39:28Speaker 3: me comparable to other people, but I'm just Frank said
- 39:34Speaker 3: right in that wave right now, dude, you're you're one
- 39:36Speaker 3: of the boys. Man where I'm actually stoked to.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Have you on. Dude, I appreciate it. I didn't know
- 39:40Speaker 4: you guys even knew who I was, so this is cool.
- 39:43Speaker 3: First, you know who you were.
- 39:44Speaker 1: Did you know what busting was?
- 39:46Speaker 4: Yeah? I knew. I knew what busting was.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Let's go Taylor, Hey don't. Yeah, will So, dude, sometimes
- 39:55Speaker 1: like I might get a ship, Dude, we're like super awesome. Hey,
- 39:59Speaker 1: sometimes I'll get excit ad about somebody knowing something and
- 40:01Speaker 1: Taylor will be quick to just humble me in a second, Dude,
- 40:04Speaker 1: like we're not that sweet dude.
- 40:07Speaker 3: Will okay, So, but yeah probably not. Hey, just Frank.
- 40:11Speaker 3: The thing about will Is is he has a weird
- 40:13Speaker 3: like like it's sexual to him. Like he loves he
- 40:16Speaker 3: loves he loves it when people are like, hey, will you,
- 40:20Speaker 3: you're a piece of ship will and literally Will like
- 40:23Speaker 3: takes he takes the energy and he's like I'll insult
- 40:26Speaker 3: him up and he'll like save it for the podcast.
- 40:27Speaker 3: Just save it for the podcast.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Just save it for the podcast.
- 40:32Speaker 3: Those who the bathroom comes back super relaxed them You will,
- 40:42Speaker 3: you need to have a comment on it because you're
- 40:44Speaker 3: gonna have a podcast soon.
- 40:47Speaker 4: Well not seeing we're gonna We're gonna gotta build.
- 40:50Speaker 1: We gotta build the YouTube. We gotta get the numbers up,
- 40:53Speaker 1: Get the numbers up, Get everybody go subscribe to Frank
- 40:57Speaker 1: the Tanks YouTube.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Man Outdoors, gristly Man Outdoors.
- 41:04Speaker 1: You know I got a fun segment I thought of
- 41:05Speaker 1: a fun segment. We can figure out since uh Rave
- 41:10Speaker 1: and Patricia's from the Belichick tree, what they have in
- 41:14Speaker 1: common with their with coaching styles, Like do you guys
- 41:17Speaker 1: have your like you know, the hardcore urine urine laminated
- 41:21Speaker 1: photos all over the all over the building. It says,
- 41:23Speaker 1: if you're too low, like you're just disrespecting the team.
- 41:28Speaker 4: We've got that.
- 41:30Speaker 3: We have that.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you never every time you piss, it's like right
- 41:33Speaker 1: in front of your face and you just sit there
- 41:35Speaker 1: and read them and you're just like, god, if you
- 41:37Speaker 1: if it's gold, you're like, I'm a selfish, bad teammate, dude,
- 41:42Speaker 1: you better start drinking your water. That's awesome.
- 41:46Speaker 4: That gets to you.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. And then when it's clear, you're like, oh, coach,
- 41:50Speaker 1: coach Rabe will be so proud of me. Right now,
- 41:52Speaker 1: I'm so hydrated. Sorry, I was gonna do the next
- 42:03Speaker 1: one does in meetings like if it's media, is it
- 42:07Speaker 1: speak for yourself? Don't talk about anything else other than
- 42:11Speaker 1: speak for yourself.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, isn't that like.
- 42:14Speaker 1: A I mean yeah, it probably is, but I feel
- 42:18Speaker 1: like it's preached more like Rave really preached it in
- 42:20Speaker 1: your head in our head. Like I sat there kind
- 42:24Speaker 1: of like fucking brainwashed, like.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck fuck anybody else.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Just they ask you about somebody else's play, you don't
- 42:30Speaker 1: refer their play. You talk about a team or edit,
- 42:31Speaker 1: and you just bring it back to yourself like that's him.
- 42:34Speaker 4: Ye.
- 42:34Speaker 1: I was trying to find common ouities between coaches.
- 42:36Speaker 5: I'm not yea super fun segment. I think we're on
- 42:39Speaker 5: a roll. Every watched onto something here.
- 42:43Speaker 3: We should keep it going.
- 42:44Speaker 1: This is this is a great segment. Honestly, That's all
- 42:46Speaker 1: I had after that, really too, and I was like,
- 42:48Speaker 1: maybe Taylor will get on board and thinking more for.
- 42:50Speaker 3: Me brainstormed, brainstorm before went that win in that one.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Blind, I know, I thought it'd be exciting because I
- 42:56Speaker 1: thought you would buy in.
- 42:58Speaker 4: I don't.
- 42:58Speaker 3: I don't know, really know any of those things except
- 43:00Speaker 3: for like he's he's could he really mean?
- 43:04Speaker 5: Sometimes it hurts your feelings a lot.
- 43:05Speaker 3: And then.
- 43:08Speaker 4: Think about the podcast he's been on it, dude it
- 43:12Speaker 4: he likes it. Oh yeah, I saw that you talked
- 43:15Speaker 4: about cutting off his piece.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Would you cut off your penis for a Super Bowl?
- 43:22Speaker 4: I'll have to get back to you on that.
- 43:24Speaker 3: No, there's no get around you've been around it your
- 43:27Speaker 3: whole life.
- 43:28Speaker 4: I can pull that card.
- 43:29Speaker 1: I don't.
- 43:29Speaker 4: I think I need my piece, man.
- 43:31Speaker 3: No question, I've already sad.
- 43:32Speaker 1: The answer is.
- 43:34Speaker 3: Cut off my penis for a super Bowl?
- 43:36Speaker 4: I believe, Yeah, I wouldn't.
- 43:38Speaker 1: What would you do for a Super Bowl?
- 43:42Speaker 4: I do a lot?
- 43:43Speaker 1: Would you? Would you? Would you? Would you sever a finger?
- 43:47Speaker 4: Yeah? Like I get, I'd get rid of the pinky
- 43:49Speaker 4: for it?
- 43:50Speaker 1: Wait what about index finger?
- 43:52Speaker 3: That little right one, that right pinky right there that
- 43:53Speaker 3: looks like it's got six knuckles?
- 43:57Speaker 1: Would I would sever that too?
- 44:00Speaker 3: They cut them things off for free, dude, I'll take
- 44:02Speaker 3: a preseason win for one of those. Jesus Christ boy
- 44:06Speaker 3: out here dying broth? How many times? How many? How
- 44:10Speaker 3: many fingers have you broken?
- 44:13Speaker 1: I don't know all of them.
- 44:14Speaker 4: I've had more dislocations than breaks. Jesus Christ, what about you?
- 44:18Speaker 4: You've probably had quite a few.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Huh No, dude, because I got I mean, I break
- 44:21Speaker 3: my I've broken all of them before. But like I
- 44:24Speaker 3: have these big meat fine, yeah I know. But if
- 44:28Speaker 3: you listen, will and you've interrupted me seven times this podcast,
- 44:33Speaker 3: I have these big meaty mits here, but these little
- 44:35Speaker 3: tiny sausage fingers. They're like little, tiny little guys. They
- 44:39Speaker 3: don't only get caught up in much. I have that
- 44:41Speaker 3: little knuckle, little knuckles a little fuck. Other than that, dude,
- 44:43Speaker 3: I don't got them pinkies like that though, Dude, this
- 44:45Speaker 3: thing's probably didn't work.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Yeah, they when it gets called out there, they're a
- 44:50Speaker 4: little tough about kicks in, but otherwise they're fine.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Jesus, did you got arthritis already going into your three Yeah?
- 44:57Speaker 4: I just turned twenty four a few days ago. It's downhill.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Oh dude, you've been in the league three years in
- 45:02Speaker 1: twenty four.
- 45:03Speaker 5: That's a killer. That's a big win.
- 45:05Speaker 4: Well, that's big.
- 45:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:07Speaker 3: Well, the young like, if I could do it again,
- 45:10Speaker 3: and I hope Michigan fans are listening right now, if
- 45:12Speaker 3: I could do it again, I would leave as a
- 45:13Speaker 3: regchord sophomore. Could you be in that thing at like twenty?
- 45:18Speaker 3: What's that?
- 45:19Speaker 4: Were you good enough too? No?
- 45:22Speaker 3: I was like, I probably would have been like may
- 45:25Speaker 3: maybe a late round draft pick.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Yeah you're yeah, but you could have left your junior year.
- 45:30Speaker 5: I could have left my junior year.
- 45:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably would got drafted higher if I left
- 45:33Speaker 3: my junior year. Would you if you go back. Would
- 45:35Speaker 3: you leave your junior year the tough question, Yes, because
- 45:40Speaker 3: I know what the result would have been, which would
- 45:41Speaker 3: have would have been like an average at best season
- 45:44Speaker 3: and getting her asses kicked in the Buffalo Wildings Bowl
- 45:46Speaker 3: to Kansas State. So yes, Michigan's tight. Though, like missions,
- 45:52Speaker 3: if I would have done Michigan differently, maybe maybe I
- 45:56Speaker 3: wouldn't have left. Maybe I still would have stayed, but
- 46:00Speaker 3: I probably would have left. I would have left. If
- 46:03Speaker 3: someone said, do you want to do it again, I'd say, yes,
- 46:05Speaker 3: I do it again. I'm gonna leave.
- 46:07Speaker 5: Early as possible.
- 46:09Speaker 1: I needed all five of my years.
- 46:10Speaker 3: Dude, I know you could. I know you did.
- 46:14Speaker 4: That's okay too, There's nothing wrong with that. Both pastwork,
- 46:18Speaker 4: for sure.
- 46:20Speaker 1: But anybody who gets to come in at twenty one
- 46:21Speaker 1: in the league at twenty one, like good head on
- 46:23Speaker 1: their shoulders, you're fucking winning, dude. The final read comes
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- 48:37Speaker 3: That's a big win. When when did you when did
- 48:39Speaker 3: you think to yourself, I can I can I can
- 48:42Speaker 3: do this? I can go to the NFL.
- 48:45Speaker 4: Uh, you know, probably after my sophomore year of college.
- 48:50Speaker 4: I could have left after my junior year too.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Why didn't you leave?
- 48:54Speaker 4: Well? That was that was when my dad passed. So
- 48:56Speaker 4: it was like I was an emotional wreck. So then
- 48:59Speaker 4: that so he passed in October and then you know,
- 49:03Speaker 4: I had to make that decision like two months later,
- 49:05Speaker 4: and I was it was terrible, but I decided I
- 49:08Speaker 4: wasn't ready that.
- 49:09Speaker 3: He passed away in October suddenly too. That's that's gotta
- 49:12Speaker 3: be so tough, dude.
- 49:14Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it happened. And then I had to play
- 49:16Speaker 4: Alabama four days later. That wasn't fun.
- 49:19Speaker 3: Uh you played?
- 49:20Speaker 4: Fuck man?
- 49:21Speaker 3: Do you guys wain.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Alabama? Didn't?
- 49:25Speaker 3: I know? I knew the answer.
- 49:26Speaker 2: I knew the answer.
- 49:29Speaker 5: Putting in the wound.
- 49:32Speaker 3: That's tough, dude. Will Do you have any brothers and sisters?
- 49:34Speaker 4: Yeah? I got a brother and three sisters.
- 49:36Speaker 5: How did they handle the situation?
- 49:38Speaker 4: I mean it's it's still like, uh, I mean, it's
- 49:41Speaker 4: only been three and a half years and it's still terrible.
- 49:44Speaker 4: We all rallied together.
- 49:47Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, that's tough. I'm sorry to hear that many.
- 49:50Speaker 4: But the Boys podcast down.
- 49:53Speaker 3: We know, we go up, dude. We're like, we're like drugs, dude,
- 49:55Speaker 3: We'll be high and low all the time. So it's
- 49:57Speaker 3: all good.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, Uh, you got to get into the
- 50:01Speaker 1: stories of what made these dudes man, no question. I mean,
- 50:03Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I'm sure you you probably you
- 50:07Speaker 1: went through a shitload to I mean, you've had to
- 50:09Speaker 1: overcome all of that shit still trying to play football
- 50:13Speaker 1: with your dad suddenly passing. I mean, I couldn't even
- 50:17Speaker 1: fucking imagine, right, I could not imagine my dad suddenly
- 50:20Speaker 1: passing away in the middle of my was it your
- 50:22Speaker 1: sophomore year in October junior year? I really couldn't imagine,
- 50:28Speaker 1: and then trying to play football four days after, and
- 50:30Speaker 1: then finishing out the year and trying to make decisions
- 50:32Speaker 1: and probably I'm sure your dad was probably involved in
- 50:35Speaker 1: your life where you're kind of making decisions with him
- 50:37Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, this outdoor show, he.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Was the decision guy. So but I mean, but then
- 50:44Speaker 4: there's like football kind of is like a grieving process too, man,
- 50:47Speaker 4: Like it just lets you forget about everything and just
- 50:50Speaker 4: go play ball. So that was a blessing in disguise.
- 50:53Speaker 4: I guess too.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely unless you let let all those emotions out
- 50:58Speaker 3: for sure.
- 50:58Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think knowing you're dead?
- 51:01Speaker 3: And I didn't know oppositely to know him, but like,
- 51:03Speaker 3: do you think he would have wanted you to leave
- 51:04Speaker 3: or wanted you to stay? Do you think that play
- 51:06Speaker 3: probably played in?
- 51:08Speaker 4: I think he would have wanted me to leave? Oh?
- 51:10Speaker 4: Really really he was like, like he would tell me
- 51:13Speaker 4: growing up, I'm gonna keep putting these pieces in the oven.
- 51:15Speaker 4: You're gonna buy me a helicopter and when you make
- 51:17Speaker 4: it to the lead, like that's just that's what his
- 51:19Speaker 4: mindset was.
- 51:19Speaker 3: What he said request, Yeah, you know I like that.
- 51:23Speaker 4: Yeah, so he was probably like and like so like
- 51:26Speaker 4: you know how like agents will start reaching out to
- 51:28Speaker 4: you when you're younger and whatnot, and I I just
- 51:32Speaker 4: prefer them all to him. And he would get so
- 51:34Speaker 4: hyped just to talk to him. So he probably would
- 51:36Speaker 4: have said, go no ship.
- 51:39Speaker 3: Yeah did you think about that at all when you
- 51:41Speaker 3: made the decision to stay?
- 51:42Speaker 4: It was horrible. I went back and forth literally every day,
- 51:45Speaker 4: and then really then you know, like coaches will say
- 51:47Speaker 4: one thing, you got, agents saying one thing you got
- 51:50Speaker 4: everybody tugging at you. So it's a tough decision. I
- 51:52Speaker 4: don't think people realize.
- 51:53Speaker 3: That, Yeah, did you did you send in like your
- 51:56Speaker 3: review or whatever into the NFL and what what did
- 51:59Speaker 3: your paper come back?
- 52:00Speaker 4: As? I think it was like there's like seven grades.
- 52:02Speaker 4: I think majority of them were two to three, two
- 52:04Speaker 4: to three, two to three, and then but there was
- 52:06Speaker 4: one that said six to seven. Oh really, And then
- 52:11Speaker 4: I'm not trying to nowhere broke.
- 52:13Speaker 3: Like at that six to seven, like the he could
- 52:17Speaker 3: have just left that one out.
- 52:19Speaker 4: I just try to get in my head and it works. Yeah,
- 52:21Speaker 4: it worked.
- 52:22Speaker 3: Yeah, we are coaches telling you stuff, like my coaches
- 52:25Speaker 3: when I was when I was going through the process,
- 52:27Speaker 3: Brady Hoke, he was.
- 52:28Speaker 5: Like, you shouldn't go. You're not mature enough.
- 52:30Speaker 4: Yet mm hmm.
- 52:32Speaker 3: And and yeah, I tell you what, I drink that
- 52:34Speaker 3: kool aid. I was. I was like, yeah, he's right,
- 52:37Speaker 3: cut them out here every weekend.
- 52:39Speaker 4: Yeah rat shoot, yeah, I mean I had it. Was
- 52:44Speaker 4: coach Brett Bilma, and he was like he was he's
- 52:48Speaker 4: the man, like uh he was, he was. He's been
- 52:51Speaker 4: big time there for me since my dad passed. So
- 52:53Speaker 4: he was he like thought I should stay but it wasn't.
- 52:57Speaker 4: I don't think it was because of anything to do
- 52:58Speaker 4: with like my play or football. I think it was
- 53:02Speaker 4: more like emotional like grieving and everything like that. So
- 53:05Speaker 4: I think he was actually, like legit looking at it
- 53:08Speaker 4: from like a care about me, not about his football team,
- 53:13Speaker 4: not about anything else, but just like caring about me
- 53:15Speaker 4: as a person. So I tell you that.
- 53:17Speaker 3: I wonder for a head coach ever told somebody, hey,
- 53:21Speaker 3: you should leave this college that I'm coaching at and
- 53:24Speaker 3: go to the NFL.
- 53:26Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
- 53:29Speaker 4: a junior quarter like a junior quarterback who's projected to
- 53:32Speaker 4: be a first round pick, how do you tell the
- 53:33Speaker 4: guy to come back?
- 53:36Speaker 3: I don't.
- 53:36Speaker 1: I don't know how you do what you can to
- 53:37Speaker 1: manipulate the come back.
- 53:39Speaker 4: I guess, Yeah, it's tough.
- 53:40Speaker 3: Huh.
- 53:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure because if you, as a head coach,
- 53:43Speaker 1: might have an extension on the way or some bonus
- 53:46Speaker 1: or some some incentive in there, and you think in
- 53:49Speaker 1: your head like I need this motherfucker so I can
- 53:52Speaker 1: hit my thing. Like you know, you you try to
- 53:54Speaker 1: finagle that situation as much.
- 53:56Speaker 3: That's what that's what you learned to, especially in the
- 53:57Speaker 3: football world, people are so selfish like people everyone's just
- 54:01Speaker 3: trying to get theirs, you know what I'm saying, and
- 54:04Speaker 3: they don't really care, like too much about your passengers. Now,
- 54:06Speaker 3: your relationship with your coach is your relationship. And it's
- 54:09Speaker 3: just like I don't know the idea of like you like, hey,
- 54:14Speaker 3: this is a spot you're comfortable with, You're in a
- 54:16Speaker 3: comfort zone like you need, like if you're grieving your father,
- 54:18Speaker 3: like obviously that's a that's a great way to come back.
- 54:21Speaker 3: But if you would have got hurt, then what you
- 54:23Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, did get hurt, then that's it.
- 54:26Speaker 3: Well you got hurt, Like what kind of hurt?
- 54:27Speaker 4: I played five games my senior year that I tore
- 54:30Speaker 4: everything in my ankle.
- 54:31Speaker 1: Really, ship, did you get that insurance?
- 54:33Speaker 4: Then I'm sitting there, No, I didn't. I didn't because
- 54:35Speaker 4: I still went first round, So I didn't get the
- 54:38Speaker 4: because you know it kicks in like after picks, you
- 54:41Speaker 4: know you fall. I didn't really fall, so I got lucky. Damn.
- 54:45Speaker 3: So you probably could have got a first round put
- 54:47Speaker 3: the year before. Really, yeah, liked should have left. Who's
- 54:52Speaker 3: your agent?
- 54:54Speaker 4: First?
- 54:55Speaker 3: Athletes first? That's like a second or third best agency.
- 54:59Speaker 3: It's pretty solid.
- 55:00Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who's your agency?
- 55:02Speaker 3: That's Creative Artist Agency. It's the biggest agency in the world.
- 55:05Speaker 4: Oh I've never heard of him.
- 55:06Speaker 3: No, yeah, well they're solid. Tom Condon twenty five most
- 55:09Speaker 3: powerful agents in the world regardless of category.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I've heard of him.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've heard of him. Sports and so who sports?
- 55:24Speaker 1: Neil Cornrich?
- 55:26Speaker 4: Oh dude, Neil. I almost went with Neil Man.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Hey, Neil's a fucking boss. He just not loud. He
- 55:30Speaker 1: just doesn't have a huge marketing like he's just a boss,
- 55:33Speaker 1: like lawyer, negotiator, genius.
- 55:35Speaker 4: He seems like he's very, very intelligent. My mom almost
- 55:39Speaker 4: went with him. My mom loved Neil because because he's
- 55:42Speaker 4: like he's deeling most guy.
- 55:43Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
- 55:45Speaker 4: And he like who else does he have?
- 55:47Speaker 1: Like Kirk Farents, Bill Belichick, Bo Polini, Kirk Farens, like
- 55:50Speaker 1: he had Bo. And that's how I got with him,
- 55:53Speaker 1: because he had Bo Polini.
- 55:54Speaker 4: That's how he almost got me. But I I just
- 55:57Speaker 4: wasn't wasn't connecting. But he's a great dude, Like he's
- 56:00Speaker 4: still dude. He still will email my mom articles about me.
- 56:04Speaker 1: Yes, bro, he emails my younger brother, who is a wrestler.
- 56:07Speaker 1: He emails him like wrestling articles.
- 56:10Speaker 4: That's that shows how good a guy he is. He's
- 56:12Speaker 4: a good dude.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Hey see, Taylor, you can't sleep on the small you
- 56:15Speaker 1: can't sleep on them small ones, the little, subtle quiet ones.
- 56:18Speaker 3: No question, I don't disagree. If he's a great agent.
- 56:21Speaker 1: You guys, I.
- 56:23Speaker 3: Think that's awesome. You know you know Tom Condon wants
- 56:27Speaker 3: to represent you? Though, Did Tom recruit.
- 56:29Speaker 4: You at all? No names?
- 56:32Speaker 1: You're talking to me?
- 56:33Speaker 4: No?
- 56:34Speaker 3: No, well I think.
- 56:39Speaker 2: He never me.
- 56:44Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 56:45Speaker 3: You will man or break hotel. But go ahead.
- 56:50Speaker 4: What's that Maybe some of the other guys over there.
- 56:53Speaker 3: Pat Collins, Uh, Tom Condon, Tommy Condon, Jimmy Sexton.
- 56:58Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Pat calling Jimmy Sexton. And then there's
- 57:01Speaker 4: one other guy.
- 57:02Speaker 5: Pat Collins.
- 57:03Speaker 2: Uh.
- 57:03Speaker 5: He's like my day to day dude.
- 57:05Speaker 3: He's epic. That dude's he's gonna be.
- 57:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:08Speaker 3: He was a senior at Michigan when I was a freshman.
- 57:10Speaker 3: We played together.
- 57:11Speaker 4: Oh that's sweet.
- 57:12Speaker 3: Yeah, And dude, he's like one of the nicest, most organized,
- 57:17Speaker 3: work his ass off for you. We'll sit on the
- 57:19Speaker 3: phone with you for hours and explain stuff like when
- 57:21Speaker 3: I was going through my contract negotiating stuff, it's so
- 57:24Speaker 3: frustrating because you're like, you know, I think I thought
- 57:27Speaker 3: the team wanted me.
- 57:27Speaker 5: Why aren't they?
- 57:28Speaker 3: You know, you have all these questions like why aren't
- 57:30Speaker 3: they paying me? Why aren't they like coming up? Why
- 57:32Speaker 3: would they start that contract number? Why would all these
- 57:35Speaker 3: different like whys? And Pat would stay on the phone
- 57:37Speaker 3: with me for hours, dude, just listen to everything. He
- 57:40Speaker 3: makes you feel like you're the only person he's ever like,
- 57:42Speaker 3: got to work for Pat's all time, dude.
- 57:45Speaker 4: You get like the big agency and you feel like
- 57:47Speaker 4: you've got the small aspect.
- 57:49Speaker 3: I think A does an amazing job of making you
- 57:51Speaker 3: feel like there's really not anybody else to be like
- 57:54Speaker 3: that is overshadowing you.
- 57:56Speaker 5: It's not like a Drew Rosenhaus, you know.
- 57:59Speaker 4: Sort of that.
- 58:00Speaker 1: So that's a good that's a good example.
- 58:01Speaker 4: Athletes versus great as well. Go ahead plugging sports.
- 58:08Speaker 3: Everybody like they got so many athletes? Do you feel
- 58:11Speaker 3: do you feel like you have one?
- 58:12Speaker 5: Like you're the.
- 58:13Speaker 4: Only guy c A has like everybody Listen, Frank, I
- 58:18Speaker 4: like you like.
- 58:21Speaker 3: You, Frank but I don't want to have to like
- 58:23Speaker 3: sit here and say, hey, go ahead and look up
- 58:24Speaker 3: the next the last three draft classes and.
- 58:27Speaker 4: How are athletes first might have dominated this last draft, dude.
- 58:31Speaker 3: They dominated the numbers and there's no question about it.
- 58:34Speaker 3: But goes after, goes after a finite amount of guys
- 58:38Speaker 3: that their quality, that they want to represent, that they
- 58:40Speaker 3: know that these dudes are going to be successful in
- 58:42Speaker 3: the lead these statistically pat c A.
- 58:46Speaker 1: If you're listening, you need to clip that and use it.
- 58:48Speaker 1: You need to use that for your guys' fucking video
- 58:50Speaker 1: because Taylor sells the ship out of you boys.
- 58:52Speaker 3: I'm just saying, man, issues, Man, there's a CIA is
- 58:56Speaker 3: by far, by far, it's not even it's not even close.
- 59:00Speaker 3: I'm looking, well, you're biased, You're you're biased. Maybe maybe
- 59:07Speaker 3: could be, I couldn't sure, but also like, what.
- 59:11Speaker 1: Do you mean you could be?
- 59:12Speaker 4: You're a thousand percent bias.
- 59:14Speaker 1: Here's your bias.
- 59:16Speaker 3: Any lots of agencies will promise you. They'll promise you
- 59:18Speaker 3: the moon, the promise you the stars, will say, oh,
- 59:20Speaker 3: you're gonna be this, You're gonna be that, You're gonna
- 59:22Speaker 3: be the greatest thing ever. For these reasons, is wants
- 59:26Speaker 3: to sell you on what they can do for you.
- 59:27Speaker 3: But everything they say they can do for you, they
- 59:29Speaker 3: will actually do for you. They will actually help promote you,
- 59:33Speaker 3: they will actually help and look for sponsorship opportunities. And
- 59:37Speaker 3: they'll be honest with you too. They'll say, hey, listen,
- 59:40Speaker 3: you're a white guy from Michigan, Taylor, and you're an
- 59:44Speaker 3: offensive lineman.
- 59:45Speaker 4: Not a lot.
- 59:46Speaker 3: There's not a lot we can do for you right
- 59:47Speaker 3: now uphill battle, you.
- 59:50Speaker 1: Know, hang on now. Then we have Derek Morgan on
- 59:53Speaker 1: a first.
- 59:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, and I really disagreed with what Derek said. However,
- 59:57Speaker 3: he was our guest and I was just trying to
- 59:58Speaker 3: be nice. If I were to have therek on this podcast,
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: I would I would probably argue it at this point
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: because you know, Derek was doing to sting. He's you know,
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: I am happy for him. But at the same time,
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: like I don't know, like like like Drew Rosenhaus for instance,
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: why would you go with him? You know what I'm saying,
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: Guys like that who has an obvious an obvious reputation
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: of just being a scum lord.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: That that is what gets me too. I just don't understand, Like,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: and I don't know him. He might be a great dude,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, he has such a reputation
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: right that I don't see how he keeps getting these
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: fucking dudes, right.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: No, he gets, he gets, he gets guys. But he
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: does a good job. He does a good job of
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: selling people. And I talked to my agent and he's like,
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: here's what he does, and he basically like lays down,
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: like these are the steps he takes, you know, just
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: kind of a slap. But I do think he is
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: the best agency. They've historically had the best contracts.
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: They're great.
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: I'm sure athletes Fir's great and sports, see sports, don't
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: sleep on them. They're they're phenomenal to shoutout and see
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: sports shoutout athletes.
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: First.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: We're all highly favored over.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Here, I know, highly blessed and highly favored. What a cliche, right, yeah,
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: ally blessing. I mean, you know what else would you perspect?
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what I would say.
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: I got nothing.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Boys, when you're hanging with the wife and bean and
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: having a great time, just having one of those moments
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: thinking yourself, yo, I'm highly blessed and highly favored.
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: Never actually thought that.
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you will. Now i'd say, like I'm thriving.
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: I like that one a little more.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to that's that sounds like a wind
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: to me.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: Yeah, like I I just caught poor fish in a row,
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: forecasting row.
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: I'm thriving forecast in a row. You've done that before?
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. You love fishing, dude, Dude, see all
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: those fishing poles.
- 1:01:59Speaker 5: So Minnesota, would you say, why would you Why do
- 1:02:03Speaker 5: you think?
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: Why do you think he dined as cake eaters? See
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: see al we circled back to that because Wiles interrupted
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: time was curious.
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: If you apologize, it's just kind of known that people.
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to go out of your
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: dad here. I don't want to go for it.
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: Do you take shots throw handmakers? That will not bother
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: me one bit?
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: He you know what? He listens to these podcasts too.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: That's awesome. Well, here's here's what's heard that. Uh, people
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: are privileged cake eaters.
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: Yes, and I think it's smart.
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: Frank, I think it's very smart to generalize a complete population.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: I think that's worked in everybody's favor for the like,
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: for the lifetime of people.
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: Dude. It's a. It's a friendly high school thing. Relaxed.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: Frank, you were you were awesome in this podcast. Did
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: you do the great job. I'm proud of you.
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Guys, you'll want a real note, Dude, your dad would
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: be super fucking proud.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: Of you, no question.
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: You seem like a really good.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: So Hey before we got to get off, though, Frank,
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: I'll might butcher this, but I'm, you know, giving the
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: boy a shout out. You help it out and clean
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: it up. Frank has teamed up with the United Way
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: and local United Way in hashtag Stay Home, Stay Strong
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: initiative to raise money for COVID nineteen Lions fans. So
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: if you're a Lions fan listen up or any fans really,
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: but mainly Lions fans, you can donate to the cause.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: And when a virtual fishing hangout with Frank, the tank
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: linked to donations we will put in our show notes. Frank,
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: what is that fishing trip going to be about?
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: Dude, nailed it. Nailed it, you know, I don't know.
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: I got to figure that out, but I'm I'm probably
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: just gonna be fishing, and usually fishing solo. Sometimes I'll
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: bring my fiance or fund. Sometimes i'll bring my brother,
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: but usually I'm solo. So it'll be great to have
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: some company and see if we can catch a mango
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: out there.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: Are you gonna film and everything?
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I'll have the go pros all over.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: You know. Keep that up, bro, that's it's gonna grow.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: Dude, watched the last episode. The last episode was low
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: key of fire at it, and I think I'm I
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: think I'm on the come up.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: All right, I'll watch it. I'll fucking post it too, dude.
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: We got We're for the boys.
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: Man, this is huge for me. I'm low key, like
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: super excited right now.
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: You're on the squad happy about that.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: I know, I know he's like fired up the squad, dude,
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: thanking this one.
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: You've done it, dude, we've all done it together now.
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: Yeah, look it up.
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: Thought huh not me? All right, brother, We appreciate it,
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: man
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank, thanks bro, Yeah, thanks guys, thanks for having me.