Latest / Home Service Millionaire with Mike Andes / Why Your Best Employees Keep Leaving
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- 0:00Everyone wants to know the next marketing hack, how to get more leads, the next whiz bang idea that is going to get their business to the next level.
- 0:08When it comes to home services, the reality is it's usually pretty boring in terms of what you need to do to be able to grow your business.
- 0:15And it usually comes down to creating an amazing team.
- 0:19And it's very hard to create an amazing team when there's a constantly revolving door of employees leaving your business.
- 0:28Managers don't stay, great technicians don't stay.
- 0:31And one of the best tools to ensure you actually keep your team and maintain them and retain them is one-on-one meetings.
- 0:40And yes, that's boring.
- 0:41And we've heard it a thousand times before.
- 0:43I want to walk through the steps today to be hopefully convince you that one-on-one meetings is the most impactful thing you can do in your business.
- 0:53Now, don't take it from me.
- 0:54I'm going to read it from our community school group where one of the members made a phenomenal post after implementing the one-on-one system and having a one-on-one meeting with his employees and what it did to his business in the first six weeks.
- 1:10But I want to first read one part of his quote or his post I thought was really, really good.
- 1:15It says, one-on-ones arguably have the highest rate of return or impact on the team and crew.
- 1:22Look, these first few one-on-ones might feel a little weird or awkward, but they are incredibly important.
- 1:27Think of it like a relationship.
- 1:29When you're trying to win someone over and get them to date you, you put in 100% effort.
- 1:35You do the grand gestures, you dress up, you listen intently, you constantly show up.
- 1:40That's the job interview.
- 1:42But once you get the girl and the relationship becomes official, a lot of people make the mistake of stopping all the things they did to win her over in the first place.
- 1:52They stop dating.
- 1:54They take the relationship for granted.
- 1:56These one-on-ones are us continuing to date our team.
- 2:01Now, let's be clear.
- 2:03Every HR team in the world doesn't like this line.
- 2:07And that is date your team.
- 2:09But the concept is true.
- 2:12All of us spend so much time finding great people, but very little time retaining them.
- 2:18And a lot of us conceptually know that people leave because of bad managers.
- 2:22We have heard that before.
- 2:24But we're not willing to do the work and get to the awkward phase of having a one-on-one meeting where you sit down, knee to knee with someone, and you're talking to them.
- 2:34Now, couple hacks.
- 2:36This is awkward.
- 2:37Talking to someone toe to toe, knee to knee, belly to belly about their performance and personal stuff in their life can be a little awkward.
- 2:45It's awkward me making this video and talking to this random wall over here.
- 2:50One way to break this up is to stop sitting down and take your team for a walk.
- 2:56And so around the shop, down the street, if this is really hard for you to be able to do a one-on-one meeting, a great hack is start walking with the person, all right?
- 3:06So if you're walking with someone, guess what they're doing?
- 3:09You're shoulder to shoulder, and you're able to look away, and it's not as awkward.
- 3:14Whereas if I'm belly to belly talking to someone, and I'm sitting down,
- 3:18That can be intimidating for them, and it can be awkward for you.
- 3:23By walking and talking like this, I can be looking away, that it is not 100% fixed days on them.
- 3:29So that's the first hack, is do your one-on-one meetings while you're walking if you're not yet comfortable.
- 3:35Now, that being said, sitting down is a universal sign of doing business.
- 3:40When you go to sign documents, when you go to do an important meeting, you have a boardroom, people sit down.
- 3:47Again, this is Western culture we're talking about here.
- 3:51I believe that sitting down in the long run, you're gonna get more accomplished.
- 3:54You're probably going to have better note taking.
- 3:56You're probably gonna be able to document things better by having a computer, being able to take some notes, et cetera, or at least recording it.
- 4:03That being said, I would rather you do a one-on-one meeting walking than do no meeting at all because it feels awkward or it feels strange or it feels different.
- 4:13But what this community member mentioned inside the school community is so incredibly true.
- 4:17We try so hard to get them hired.
- 4:19We do walkthroughs of the shop space.
- 4:22We text them.
- 4:22We send automations.
- 4:24We make sure they go through a hiring sequence.
- 4:26We might even do a great onboarding and training.
- 4:29Some of us don't do that.
- 4:31Even if we do a great job training and getting them on board, if we don't do a great job of retaining them and building a bigger business, when you have a revolving door of employees leaving is building business on hard mode.
- 4:44It's so difficult, especially when you have mid-level managers and you start getting above a million, two million in revenue.
- 4:49It is so hard to build a business if you have a revolving door of people leaving.
- 4:54And if you ask people why they leave, it's very rarely because of money.
- 4:58A lot of times it has to do with their manager.
- 5:01And for a lot of the people watching, you are the manager to your technicians or to the managers that are managing your technicians.
- 5:09So how do we have a great one-on-one meeting?
- 5:11I'm gonna go through this very briefly.
- 5:13There's another video I had that went into deep detail of every step of a one-on-one meeting.
- 5:17At the end of the day, I need to break the ice, and then I want to be able to make sure that they get to the next stage of their career.
- 5:23They improve.
- 5:24And I'm not gonna frame this from the perspective of a performance review.
- 5:29This is an audit of your performance.
- 5:30We're gonna improve you.
- 5:32No, this is all about helping them get closer to their goals.
- 5:38Most business owners don't even talk about their goals, let alone most team members or technicians or people that are just starting their career.
- 5:44Very few of them have very detailed structure around goal setting.
- 5:48And so it's awkward for them, too.
- 5:50So, OK, you're awkward because you don't really want to have a discussion about someone's performance.
- 5:54They're awkward because they've never even talked about their goals.
- 5:56They've never even thought about their goals.
- 5:57So this is why most people don't do one-on-ones because it's awkward for everybody.
- 6:01So what can we do to make sure that is alleviated, that is reduced?
- 6:04First off, I'm trying to break the ice.
- 6:07Whether you're walking shoulder to shoulder or whether you're sitting down belly to belly across the table, ideally I'm not 90 degrees with them.
- 6:15If you're gonna sit down near someone, do a 45 degree angle at least, less confrontational.
- 6:21If I'm like this, all right, what are we doing today?
- 6:25You need to improve at this.
- 6:26This is confrontational typically, shoulder to shoulder.
- 6:29All right, I'm going to flip it 45 degrees.
- 6:31And now I can have a conversation with you and not, you don't feel as intimidated.
- 6:35I don't feel like I'm about to threaten you.
- 6:37All right.
- 6:38Little tiny hacks.
- 6:39If you feel awkward on your one-on-one.
- 6:42When I open up, I am not jumping into your efficiency scores.
- 6:46And I'm not talking about how you do a horrible job and you're making mistakes.
- 6:51I'm not talking about that.
- 6:53I'm gonna talk about the things that you care about to break the ice.
- 6:58So first off, I'm going to be asking, what's a win recently in your personal life?
- 7:04What's a win in your professional life, so at work?
- 7:06And then also, what's a low?
- 7:07Like, what's going not so great personally and not so great at work?
- 7:13So we call this the high-low buffalo strategy, which is share a high, share a low, and then share something that you don't know about the other person.
- 7:21And I'm gonna do this as a manager.
- 7:22So I'm not just gonna be like, all right, tell me, tell me what's going well at work.
- 7:26Okay, tell me what's going well at home.
- 7:28Okay, tell me what is, what you're struggling with at home.
- 7:31Tell me what you're struggling at work.
- 7:33That doesn't work.
- 7:34Do you wanna make this a conversation?
- 7:36This is why it feels awkward if you don't use this system is because it's like this one way street of like you testing them or you like marking them like a teacher who likes a teacher grading your performance.
- 7:48It's not fun.
- 7:49I want this as a conversation.
- 7:50So high, high, low, low, Buffalo.
- 7:57Meaning they're going to share a high.
- 7:59I'm going to share a high.
- 8:01For example, they could be like, well, I finished my first project the other day completely solo and it went well and the customer is super happy.
- 8:07That's a win for me professionally.
- 8:09Like, let's go.
- 8:10All right, win for me.
- 8:12For the first time last month, we were able to break 20% profit margin.
- 8:16Again, I'm sharing a professional win.
- 8:18Okay, what about personally?
- 8:21I benched 225 pounds for the very first time.
- 8:23That's their win.
- 8:24For me, oh man, that's great.
- 8:26Actually, yesterday, for the very first time, I was able to do seven days straight of working out in the gym.
- 8:31That was the first time I've ever done that.
- 8:33Win for myself.
- 8:33Okay, so...
- 8:35What about from a, what's the hard part?
- 8:39What's not going well?
- 8:41Okay, well, actually right now the equipment's breaking a lot and it's extremely frustrating.
- 8:45It feels like all the time we're coming back to the shop.
- 8:47You're like, oh man, okay, heard.
- 8:49Thank you very much.
- 8:50I'm taking note of that.
- 8:52All right, for a low for me aside, on my end, honestly, our close rate's been lower and I haven't been able to close as many jobs.
- 8:57So I'm trying to do like upsell calls and I'm trying to follow up with people, but our close rate's lower than it usually is this time of year.
- 9:04So now I'm sharing a low professionally.
- 9:06And you do this cadence of high, low, and Buffalo.
- 9:10And the Buffalo part is sharing something with them that they don't know about you.
- 9:15And I'm gonna do that first.
- 9:16So I'm gonna say, well,
- 9:18One thing you might not know about me is that I actually hate drinking water.
- 9:23Don't worry, that's not true.
- 9:25I hate drinking water.
- 9:26I can drink sparkling water.
- 9:28I can drink stevia.
- 9:30I can drink anything besides water.
- 9:32I just hate it.
- 9:33And that's something I'm sharing personal about myself that they might not know.
- 9:36And then I ask them to do the same thing.
- 9:38And they might share something...
- 9:40that in their personal life means a lot to them or something they've accomplished or something that is kind of an idiosyncrasy or something they did in the past that no one would know about.
- 9:48This is the type of way to break the ice.
- 9:51And now what's cool is I have so many data points to be able to use with that person throughout the next month because I'm doing these one-on-ones every single month.
- 9:59But now I know something that they might be struggling with in their personal life.
- 10:04in their professional life.
- 10:05I know something that they feel very proud about in their personal life and in their professional life.
- 10:09And I know something that I didn't know about them before.
- 10:11These are now five touch points, five things that I can use over the next month when they're loading up the truck, when I see them in the office.
- 10:18I might only see them, especially if you grow a business.
- 10:20You might see them once a month or twice a month just in passing at the shop.
- 10:23But now I can be like, hey, by the way, I know you benched 225.
- 10:26Have you gone any higher?
- 10:28I can be like, hey, by the way, I did mention to the shop manager about X, Y, and Z with the equipment that's breaking.
- 10:34Has that improved?
- 10:35I wanted to check in.
- 10:36These little touch points are now spread out throughout the next month.
- 10:40You have direct connection, personal connection.
- 10:43They don't look to you as a boss overlording them.
- 10:45They see you taking action on the things that they mentioned.
- 10:48You check in with them as a human being about the things that they're struggling with or their goals that they have in life.
- 10:54And it's a great icebreaker.
- 10:56Now, the second half of the 101, I am trying to determine several things.
- 11:00Number one, what can I do to make working here better for you?
- 11:07A lot of times, this is the exact same thing as saying, tell me all your complaints.
- 11:12But now you're doing it a positive way, a way that's much more constructive and that we're on the same team fighting these problems together.
- 11:18What can I do as your manager
- 11:21to make sure that working here is better.
- 11:24What can I do to make your job better?
- 11:26This is when a lot of things will come up.
- 11:28I'll read a couple of the ones that this community member mentioned that was coming up in his one-on-ones.
- 11:33These were some of his takeaways.
- 11:34Team meetings in the morning seem to be only about the negatives.
- 11:37Can we have some positivity?
- 11:39That is a great takeaway to know as a manager.
- 11:43Second takeaway or thing that the crew was bottling up that came out during his one-on-ones in his first month.
- 11:49I don't like working with a certain person.
- 11:51They make me weed eat.
- 11:52They're on a mowing crew.
- 11:54Everything all day long.
- 11:56Okay, good to know.
- 11:57Can we cross-train this person?
- 11:59Can we do some sort of system to make sure that there's some, you go from mower back to weed whack, going back and forth if you're on a crew?
- 12:06Third takeaway he had from the employees, I feel like you mentioned things in public that should be private and it feels disrespectful in how you say it.
- 12:15That is a phenomenal takeaway that I can guarantee you if you don't create a safe place for an employee to say that, they will hardly ever give you that feedback.
- 12:24When was the last time you heard a technician be able to tell their direct manager, the owner of the business, that level of constructive criticism?
- 12:32But if you do the one-on-one in the correct fashion, and it's not a, I'm up here, you're down there, it's much more of a collaborative approach to making their life better and getting them closer to their goals, they'll bring these things up because you've made it safe and you're not in this combative audit type of a relationship.
- 12:50That's a phenomenal, like such a phenomenal takeaway.
- 12:53Like for most people, they would need to hire a communication coach, record their calls that they have with their team and send them to someone very expensive to get that kind of feedback about the fact that you're saying things in public that should be held private.
- 13:06And that's a phenomenal way to then fix that problem as a manager and then make sure I don't get I don't have team members leaving over my personality issue.
- 13:16The thing that I thought was just the way to communicate and I was being blunt or being honest.
- 13:20But in reality, it's hurting my team.
- 13:22I didn't know that.
- 13:23OK, I can adjust.
- 13:25All right.
- 13:26Number four, you always fix things, but I wish my equipment would get fixed sooner or we had more backup equipment.
- 13:33Okay, good feedback.
- 13:34Again, you can't take action on every single one of these things, but these are the type of common things as they start bubbling up, I need to address as a manager to make the life of my technicians and my managers better.
- 13:45Number five, I feel like a yellow slip means I'm going to lose my job.
- 13:49The yellow slip is where you have to go back to the property.
- 13:52Okay, is it that I'm coming across like this is a negative thing, or could I somehow rephrase yellow slips or callbacks as a way for us to learn
- 14:01to serve the customer better.
- 14:02Can I reframe what a yellow slip is?
- 14:05Excellent feedback.
- 14:06Number six, I always get the job done, but I go home beat down every day.
- 14:09I feel like I have too many budget hours.
- 14:12And this came from an older member of the team.
- 14:14These are all phenomenal takeaways that he was able to get in one month.
- 14:20Now, we talked about breaking the ice.
- 14:21We talked about making sure we're trying to understand from a collaborative approach how we can make their job better.
- 14:27And then the last part that we've talked about before is we want to ensure that we are helping them get to their goals.
- 14:35Now...
- 14:37I'm going to assume that we have done the harder work of aligning the goals of the employee with the business already.
- 14:42We have pay for performance.
- 14:44We have stages of success that they're trying to move up into.
- 14:47By formalizing some sort of stages of moving up as a technician, moving up inside the company, if you formalize that, even if it's just a matter of gaining new skills,
- 14:57having a new title, getting a new comp, whatever it might be.
- 15:01If there's some sort of progression inside the organization, you can now look at that chart.
- 15:05You can look at those levels and say, okay, you're at stage four.
- 15:09To get to stage five, you need to do these things.
- 15:12What can I do to help you get to the next stage of your career?
- 15:18Like that is the exact same thing as saying,
- 15:24You need to do this better.
- 15:25You need to do that better.
- 15:26I would like to see you improve this.
- 15:27You need to add this skill.
- 15:28I saw this the other day.
- 15:29I didn't like it.
- 15:30That is the exact same thing, but said in a very constructive manner, which is, hey, I want to see you get to this level.
- 15:36What can I do to help you get there?
- 15:39And now they've got to be reflective.
- 15:40Like, well, I kind of need to learn this skill.
- 15:42I haven't been doing so great in this area.
- 15:44And that's why I keep getting yellow slips.
- 15:45So I need to do better in this one area.
- 15:48I can show up a little more on time so I can get my profit sharing.
- 15:51My P4P is down because I haven't been showing up to work with my lunch.
- 15:54I've been stopping a few times at the gas station so I could kind of sure that up a little bit.
- 15:58Now you're collaborating differently.
- 16:01on the exact same feedback that could come across as, you need to stop stopping it every single day at the gas stations.
- 16:07You need to show up on time so that way you can get profit sharing.
- 16:10Same exact thing said, just in a different manner, a different way.
- 16:14So that's my takeaway for you all today.
- 16:16Have a one-on-one meeting with every technician, every manager, any direct report.
- 16:20As you grow the business, you'll be having one-on-ones with the people that are having one-on-ones and the people that are having one-on-ones.
- 16:26If you can grow a big enough business.
- 16:28But your direct reports...
- 16:29The eight, 10 people that you might have reporting directly to you, I've got to have a one-on-one meeting with them.
- 16:35And then I'm making sure that my managers are having a one-on-one meeting with their team every single month.
- 16:40And I'm documenting, taking notes of what's said, what I can do to improve, what I can do to improve the workplace.
- 16:46And if you do that, the likelihood of you keeping your team is a lot higher.
- 16:51And I wish that for every person.
- 16:53I've been extremely blessed to have a phenomenal leadership team that has stuck with me for a long time.
- 16:59And I wish this for every entrepreneur and small business owner because I know what it's like to have huge turn.
- 17:04And it is so hard to grow a business.
- 17:07You're constantly training new people.
- 17:09The best ones leave.
- 17:11You don't know why.
- 17:12You're frustrated.
- 17:13It's hard to ever plan or make initiatives because you don't know if your team is going to be around.
- 17:18You're constantly wondering if you're going to be drawn back into a fire.
- 17:21I wish for every entrepreneur that they're able to keep their team.
- 17:25And the best way to keep your team is to care for your team.
- 17:27And the best way to show that you care is to have a one-on-one meeting every month.