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The Colts Report with Will & Dave Retherford (3.16) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_01]: U.R.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: listening to the cultured port with Will and Dave Rutherford, and it's only on the central Indiana sport to port.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This week talking about the 53 man roster, the wide receiver situation with Alec Pierce and Keenan Allen, and former rookies baking the team on defense.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome Colts fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Colts Report with Will and Dave Rutherford.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here to talk about the 53-man roster and the latest news, particularly the wider receiver room, but other things as well.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: also react to the cult's lost to the Detroit Lions in the final game of the preseason.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some good signs in that one I think, but here to get Will and Dave's opinions of what's going on and let me start with, we have a kicker.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we do.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they made the right decision.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Shrader probably deserved it from the jump.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that as he's progressed in his rehab from the knee injury last year, he's been even better in camp.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's been hitting from deep.
• 1:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if you can comfortably hit from a 60 year and a really good spot, that's the difference that teams have in this NFList, their ability to score from midfield.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that the Colts have that tool and their toolbox now, with Spencer Shrader.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, groupies good, you just got picked up by the jets shortly ago.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, they, you know, we're making a decision between two of the top 32 kickers in the league.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like what they did, though.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Davey has potential to be one of the best.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I agree.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the biggest thing that they had to question mark with him is just how good his leg would be coming off the the massive injury that he had last year and
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: kicking that 60-yard fill goal there against the Lions was really all they needed to see to know that he's got the leg to do it.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, let's go to the wide receiver room because it's a bit of a mess.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Keenan Allen, of course, the DUI, we don't need to talk much about that people make mistakes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He did make the team.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we're talking about.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: My only thing is, Dave, we've been to where we were that age and he's near the end of his career.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you do drink in that poison during camp anyway?
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: it doesn't make any sense to me.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's coming into a new team.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's only been here for a couple weeks.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think he'd be doing everything he could to make a good solid impression.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now we're going to have this mess to deal with throughout the whole year and and wondering when court cases are going to be happening and whether we're going to have him suspended for several games, just not a good ton of good decision.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think in the 21st century in 2026 there is absolutely no reason that anybody should get behind the wheel drunk.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are overs, there are axes, there are anything, ride chairs, there's anything you can imagine.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is absolutely zero reason, to put behind the wheel in that situation and especially
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, now it just, I get people make mistakes, Greg, and I'm not here to question the type of man that Kenan Allen is, I've never heard anybody speak, but highly of him, but this is just poor decision-making.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it sounds a good look.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How does the locker room now look at this decision?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And are they able to use his voice as a leader or now do you question some of the accountability that he gives to other people?
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because he can't hold himself accountable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: to make a decision like that down pound in the after a preseason game at just I don't know if you're right.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well he everybody who knows him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a stand-up guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably going to be a mountain nothing probably just a mistake a guy made.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not
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  [SPEAKER_01]: career life threatening, but it's just a bad decision.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a wide receiver room that right now can't really use some solidification, not some division.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now Alec Pierce is back at practice, but the culture saying they're hoping that he plays week one.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a good sign.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm really kind of concerned that he is not going to be able to play everything that they show him on social media.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just looks like he's favoring that ankle a little bit.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know whether that's true or not.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, you know, the speculation on, of course, Pat McFey shows been that he's a stiff walker and this that the other.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But regardless, he just doesn't feel right.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't look right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm concerned that he's not going to be able to go for week one.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, Greg, I'm concerned he's not going to be ready to go until week four.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really think that these ankle lower body injuries teams for the most part are really careful with them and I don't think if they feel that he is completely ready to go, that they'll put them out there because they've invested a lot of money into them.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be
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  [SPEAKER_02]: unwise our organization to risk that level of asset if they don't feel 100% confidence.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: There I do like they took them off the PUP list but ultimately we'll see what happens in regards to his ability to play a week one at home against the rapids.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: My issue at this point will be if he can't play our white receiver room, all of a sudden
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We really are going to have to count on him to truly be the number one this year.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we can't afford to have him missing weeks.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get off to a bad start if we don't have him.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the wide receiver room is loaded with a bunch of number three.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think every draft pick pretty much made the team and Berks looks like he might be the real deal.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was a time when he was playing at Oklahoma.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was expected to be a pretty high draft pick.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He fell to the seventh round.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He looks like maybe he has surpassed some expectations and just the fact that he made the team, I think, is a really good sign.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every team needs somebody.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: that is the 50 second 50 third man to make their roster that has a huge impact on their season ultimately I'm hoping that he can be the player for that because they are lacking and there's no excuse about it.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm even keen now on with drawshounds I'd say it's still a bottom.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, for seaming room, probably in terms of former production and future outlook.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I, you Greg, you just said, off air, you know, then it's it could be a bottom five receiving group.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that Pierce is maybe elevates it to be slightly above that.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, but could be bottom part.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: because you have to think that dual and specialist and really so is look look on tread well for that matter I doubt either one of them see significant snaps.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you kind of get the feeling that Dion Berks comes in as the number four and might honestly have the opportunity to fight for that number three depending on how this case goes with Keenan Allen.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: this is typically a ruling from the league that results in a three-game suspension.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so you're going to have to have the on Merck Spirit number three in less.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You really think Ash and Dillon is taking that leap forward as less of a gunner, special team type guy, and more of a actually skilled wide receiver.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Based on what we saw on camp and based upon what we saw on creases and games, I do think the colds at least got the six six wide receivers to the cap.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think they got it right.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know they signed a couple more of them to the practice squad, which could potentially obviously get, you know, called up in any one particular game.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, but I think they got the right six.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think it's a strong six when you compare it to other teams in the league.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to see whether or not that becomes, you know, an issue for the cults as we get into the season.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And again, really good tight-end room will help with that.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a concern.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: When we come back here in just a minute, we're going to talk about the latest news and notes including 53 man roster surprises if there were any.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And four different rookies making the squad on defense.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Check out our high school football recap our week to recap with Frank Shows coming out a little later Tuesday.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of information and highlights.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Please check out Any surprises on the 53-man roster anything you'd like or dislike
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was a little surprised at Kyle Freeland got waves.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of expect him to make the roster.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it goes to the point that we talked about on the last episode is that they really believe in Jalen Farmer and rightfully so I thought he performed pretty well.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It does beg the question of where do they see Gonzalo's long-term if they're not able to figure out the right tackle position with Travis.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that we're at the point with this iteration of the team that you feel really confident in the left side of your line as long as birdhardt rhyme and can bounce back.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You feel great about your interior line, that right tackle position, which has been such a asset with this team with brain smith for the better part of eight years.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: you kind of wonder, you know, what is the direction they're moving towards?
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would say if there's a strength Chris Ballard has and he has drafted off into blind talent, well he's developed talent, well, through the coaching staff.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do not question really what he does up front.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of everywhere else that I sometimes wonder what the hell he's thinking.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say that I see a tenor real surprises.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I kind of expected
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kobe wouldn't make the squad and maybe over, over Jerry Tilary, but you know, I also know that you know, they're trying to get, you know, each position backed up the best that they can get it backed up and and I did at least sign wooden to the practice squad.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like that, you know,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: really in today's league.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a 53-man roster with a 16-man practice squad and they can come and go really as they need to.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the practice squad is important.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Almost all those guys are going to be playing at times during the season when you have it.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they are.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to have a 16 that you feel good going in.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you need him, I'm kind of with that.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that Colby wouldn't wave was interesting because they traded Zaire Franklin straight up form.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what kind of roster management is that that you cut the guy that you trade Zaire Franklin for?
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get that Franklin wasn't largely sought after throughout the league and they didn't have a ton of suitors for his services.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's just those are
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what's the point, man?
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're better off, keep inside your Franklin and re-signing it.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not the worst lineback, or ever.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a depth piece, if nothing else.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I get you probably didn't want to do that after being a stable starter here.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this is the National Football League.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a big boy league.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And just those are decisions that I just want to shake his head and say, Chris, what is your reasoning?
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then he's going to come out in the press conference.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This week, and he's going to say, I like our guys.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like our guys, I like the team that we have, but he just never takes any accountability for the poor decisions that he makes and, you know, he just comes and says the same shit every time he's a snake oil salesman is what I think he's good with words, but he's not good with action.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is God on the truth, Greg.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the worst roster assembled for a general manager.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been there most ten years.
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: This roster is not even close to the best roster that's been drawn out in the Chris Ballard era.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we building towards?
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because right now it feels like we have about five assets, real assets that you could use to develop any level of debt.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: and you're clearly not trading them.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We trade two first-round picks for sauce gardener and everybody said, why is it Chris Ballard?
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ever made a move at the trade deadline and then he goes and doesn't.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like, well, damn it, Ballard.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was not the time.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was not the move.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That moved a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Not at all.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: a little too much.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sauce Carter's worth more than what the Ravens gave up to get Max Cross B. I mean, that's unbelievable.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sauce Carter, for as good as he was his first fears in New York, has never put out the type of production that Max Cross B has ever.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's one of the first years he was the number one cover corner in football.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that he's a good cover corn, right?
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that gives the best cover.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: The stats show that he gave the least space in all of the league.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that, I mean, that's great.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, we're going to have to see it.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to have to prove it because right now, he was worth an awful lot of money.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: He paid a lot of money if he's just going to be here for him.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really good.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because as you mentioned, and
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: We said four rookies made the team on defense.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that could make the future kind of exciting for the defense, but man to front seven could just be really bad.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even if Allen and Betcher are great this year, their rookies plan vital positions on the field.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, there's a chance the middle of that defense is just awful.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's a chance they get gash.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know Greg.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get what you're saying with with saws gardener, I'm aware of it, but I I just think that it's he going to be so good that he takes away half the field.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because if he's not that good, he's not worth it.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you guys two years ago, if you'd have told me, pick the two best corners and the NFL that you'd want on your team.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I might have taken Gardener and Ward.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ward's not the cover corner that Gardener is, but he just makes plays all over the field.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just didn't see it last year.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We saw it the 49ers, we saw it with the jets, we just didn't see it last year with those guys.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think, but they could be special.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: They could be cornered such a fickle position now.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, how good are you really and I think I hope that they make the front seven better because if not, if South Gardner and Chavarius Ward are just okay to good as a combination, this team's getting revoked.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have to 28 points again because their front seven's that bad.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're that bad.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Potentially, there's some potential there.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dave, it flottu comes into his own and the two defensive tackles are runstuffers and the rookie linebackers are, you know, really Lewis level linebackers is rookies and all that.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Potentially, we can see a pretty good defense, but it's set up to just be pretty bad.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could be pretty fast though.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm definitely concerned about their ability to stop the run at this point.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think that the front seven is strong enough to keep teams from averaging good yards per carry and that's going to make our safety less effective, especially if they have to cheat in.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: If our safety's have to cheat in and our corners are stuck in one on one coverage.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: will end up getting bit there too.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think the front seven is going to be the part that we have to really really be concerned about.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they can if they can hold their own in the run game, I feel pretty good about our our corners.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty good about our secondary.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder if the front seven is going to limit their effectiveness.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We will see what happens.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's less than two weeks before kickoff.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we will be together again pretty soon, where you need to do our AFC rankings.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to preview the Ravens.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do our final predictions of what's going to happen this cold season.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's all in the next couple of weeks.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So thanks guys, appreciate it.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll now be together again later this week as well to do our podcast.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, guys.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just wonder what we've done wrong in this life to have to put up with the colds.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, my desire of this NFL season just wanes every week.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, it's like, this, I was completely wrong about 11 today.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no ball's chance now this game goes left in six.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: None.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only thing that's happened is the preseason with, I think you're overacting a little.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can say that I wrote it good
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much to Will and Dave.
• 17:55
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• 17:57
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• 18:08
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• 18:13
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• 18:17
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• 18:20
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• 18:23
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• 18:42
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