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Finale Postgame | Season 21 | America's Got Talent · AGT Time Pod - America's Got Talent Fancast

• The Champ: Everyone, welcome to our finale edition of AGT time. It's over. We got multiple champs tonight. All six of us are here. Ryan actually showed up this time. And AGTCommenter: Mm. Minnesota Ryan: Wow, call me out. The Champ: yeah, well, you know, you aren't here for the draft, but you are here now. And we're happy, we're Minnesota Ryan: True. I am here now. The Champ: happy everybody's here. All six of us are here to celebrate our new champion, Nene Royale. Royal, Royal, Royale, Royale Chiefs. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: It's royal. I think it's royal. AGTCommenter: Ro Royale. The Champ: so Stephen Anderson: Royal. The Champ: yeah, we got a fantasy league champion, we got a side bet champion. AGTCommenter: Mm. The Champ: We're gonna celebrate me tonight twice, Scott: Yeah. Stephen Anderson: Ha ha ha AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. The Champ: and then I'm gonna head out of here and go to bed because it is late AGTCommenter: Yeah. The Champ: on the East Coast. But guys, welcome. We made it to the end of AGT and we have a champion. AGTCommenter: We do. It's great to be here. It feels good to win. Championship number three for me. Cody, congrats. It's been a while since you've been in the winner's circle. so I'm happy. The Champ: Thanks. It it has, yes. AGTCommenter: I'm happy for you to to get a couple wins tonight. it was never really in a doubt, but it's I thought I sweated it like a couple results longer than I thought we were gonna, but yeah. what we thought was going to happen probably was. But we got the whole crew here. I'll throw it to you, Jay, to kinda load us off here into some business and everything and then we'll go. Jay: Yeah. the business. check us out at AGT time pod on all the social medias. A G T time Pod at Gmail dot com. special shout out to second place finisher Gino Plaguer. I Minnesota Ryan: Let's go. Jay: think friend of the pod, right? It's W's just gonna we're gonna take what we'll what we get here. AGTCommenter: Yes. Hopefully future friend. Yeah. The Champ: Mm, l listener. Well w you know, li he's at least Yes. He he a Minnesota Ryan: Nah, he's my he's my friend. Friend of Minnesota Ryan. Stephen Anderson: An acquaintance of the pot at this point. The Champ: a friend we haven't met yet, so Jay: but no, that's rate, review, subscribe, be like Gino. Reach out to us. AGTCommenter: yeah. No, Gino Gino had had sent an email was it an email, Cody, a comment, something like that? A comment, yeah. Yeah. The Champ: It was a comment on our Spotify pod. AGTCommenter: And I think our advice led him all the way to second place, if I had to guess. The Champ: That's what I wanna think. Yeah. AGTCommenter: U and J's critiques and criticisms isn't even the right word, but just thoughts and ideas for him. Yeah, feedback The Champ: Feedback. Yeah. AGTCommenter: led to a incredible finish for him, and we'll get into we'll get into the results. But Cody I'll give you the floor one last little thought here on just your overarching quick thoughts on the results, any surprises, and then we'll let you go. The Champ: I mean, no dogs in top five, which I think you had the canine crew, right? In the top five. yeah. No, and and and that's AGTCommenter: I did. I just f I couldn't imagine a world where one of the dog acts didn't, but The Champ: that's fair. Yeah, and that's fair. But no dogs in the top five. I think Gino has come a long way, but to be honest, I think Gino being second is a little bit of a surprise. Hundred fingers third, a little bit of a surprise. other than that, I I don't think that it's it was that surprising each pairing that came up. We were pretty confident it was gonna go through to the top five. Would love to have had a both of you between AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Champ: beef us and hundred fingers. that didn't that didn't happen. but yeah I think overall pleasant lot top five I had I had the top five but not they weren't all in the right order but I mean I picked the entire top five which I thought was incredible. I didn't think I would have gotten that but so I'm I'm pretty pleased with that. Other than that I thought the performance was great. Jay and I'll be back on Thursday to to recap all the performances. I got some thoughts. Other than that, it was a fun night. I thought the night went pretty quick with all the stuff that they had going on. Some of the acts some of the pairing acts that they they showed, some of the fun stuff I thought was was pretty good for the night. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah, no for sure. Well, appreciate ya, Cody. Get a good night's sleep. We need you rested up for the recap tomorrow with Jay. The Champ: Yeah. Thanks. Yes, absolutely. AGTCommenter: congrats, champ. The Champ: Double champ tonight. Double champ tonight. guys, thanks for a wonderful season. Appreciate AGTCommenter: There he there he goes. There Yes. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. The Champ: all of you all. each of you chipped in everything that you could, and I really appreciate it. Steven, you got your new pod coming out soon. I you're gonna talk about that probably a little bit later on. So I can't wait to to hear and see some of that. So congrats on all Jay: See you tomorrow. Stephen Anderson: Hook horns, Cody, hook horns. Minnesota Ryan: Congrats, Cody. AGTCommenter: There he goes. See ya, Cody. all right. Scott: Congrats. AGTCommenter: So here's here's what I think we should do. I think we should just go quickly through results, top five, and just get thoughts, and we'll go around the room. So I'm just gonna quickly go through each advancement to the top five, and then we'll just talk about the top five before we get into who finished where. So it was come here in Royal Lasers. We're up first. Royal Lasers is through to the top five. Hundred Fingers and and Beefus was next. Hundred Fingers is through. Then we had Le Noel and Veronica. This was the one that I was really interested in. This was a a sweaty one for me. I was I was surprised or was surprised that they were together. I thought too that very well could be in the top five. Veronica is headed through Nene Royal and Unitry. We all knew where that was headed with Nene going through, and then the canine crew and Gino and Gino's going through. So our top five was Gino. was Nene. We had Hundred Fingers, Veronica, and Royal Lasers in Jay: Royal lasers. AGTCommenter: there. Jay, when when we saw the top five come together, initial thoughts when you sat there and watched, was there a surprise? Did it make sense? Your thoughts on the top five? Jay: It it all made sense to me. I put a a comment out on Reddit. I said that my top five were Nene, Veronica, Gino, Leigh, and Royal Lasers in that order. I had Leigh incorrectly pegged. but I don't feel too bad about you know picking four of the five there. following the following the performances. I think that Leigh could have swung for the fences a little bit more, played a little less safe, and maybe found AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Jay: herself in the top five. but yeah, I I was not surprised with these results. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I I agree. I had basically the only difference I had from you, I just thought one of the dog acts would make it in. I just felt like it just seemed to go that way. Gina was the only one of my final five prediction that I thought. Scott, was this top five along the lines you thought this whole night was gonna go? Scott: Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I I think it it's a deep finals. Beef is probably the only act I would have been surprised if they made the top five. Anyone else I would have like, no, that makes sense. especially, you know, if it just lined up differently. I think I think the way that they were paired up, they all seemed fairly obvious other than maybe that Lay Noel I thought might get get in. but yeah, like I said, pr pretty much anyone could have been in the top five. I think really the the winner seemed pretty obvious. and then kinda two through eight, could've been anybody or two through nine, for sure. AGTCommenter: Yeah, and that's kind of what Ryan, Cody, and I talked about on the previo pre game show was like Tooth Ray could go any which way. Ryan, any surprises, maybe the bigger question even for you, was there a name that got left out at all or that got put in all in this top five that you're like, huh, interesting at all? No. Minnesota Ryan: That we talked about this when I was on. I predicted this exact five. so it was me, I think it was me and Cody were the ones who got like the exact five right. We were a little different on our order. but no, this was my five, and this matches statistically. Four of them match exactly what the most viral acts were from pretty much most of the season. The only swap was that Gino was never viral. So he I think we talked about this right. I said he was the one I was kind of going out for because I think he's gonna get like Chris Turner style votes. AGTCommenter: He was the Chris Turner. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, like he's gonna just gonna get this bump because he's so likable. and I thought that Lei was your riskiest one on there because of she was pitchy at the golden buzzer and sh it depends on song choice for her. So I she was the one where she would have been in that five if you did virality, but I just swapped her in Gino. But this is what I thought was gonna happen. The order was more intriguing to me than it was the five that were chosen, I guess if that's how I would like to break it down. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Steven, is it the same f I feel like everybody just this was a little bit of what the poll you know, the the pollsters would have would have thought was going to happen. This felt like the result that was gonna happen. Stephen Anderson: Yeah, I mean w w I go I've what I if I've learned anything, last two presidential elections or elections in general don't believe the polling. But with that being said, AGTCommenter: Yeah. Stephen Anderson: no, I think we all knew that w this was what it was gonna be. We all knew these were the five it was gonna be. kinda echoing what Ryan said, order maybe not what I would have predicted, but I think this is the five we all knew was coming. as much as I love Lane, I did pick her first in our draft, she was pitchy at times throughout the semifinals. quarterfinals, pitchy. I think last night's performance for her was probably the best performance she gave in the entire live show rounds. if she would have done that consistently, who knows what it would have looked like, but no, this is the right top five. AGTCommenter: Yeah. No, I agree. I I think this was a a a five that made sense. So there's our five. We we get into where they're gonna finish. Veronica's announces our our fifth place finisher. I had her the top of my leaderboard. I thought she was the most talented act of the season after the after everything was said and done. But I I had no obviously no hopes of her winning. We we knew where this was going. I was just really glad she was top five. Jay, when when when she was announced fifth, was that Low for you? Did that feel like her ceiling? What what were your thoughts on Veronica and Fifth? Jay: Yeah, I put her as number two. I felt like her performance like was literally the least safe performance of of the night. But also also figuratively, like she AGTCommenter: Yeah. Literally and probably figuratively, yeah. Yeah. Jay: she really did I think the best job of like continuing to grow, grow, grow through all of her performances. you know, and who would have thought that Ariel Pole would be as intriguing as engaging as we found it. but she she found a different way to ratchet it up every time. and this last time with the the strap that went around her waist so she could stand on the side of the pole was just cool. Really, really neat. And she's she understands showmanship both AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Jay: like within each performance and across the season. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. No, a a deserved top five, Ryan. It five was a little low for for me personally, but what'd you think of Veronica in fifth? Minnesota Ryan: I was maybe a little bit low, but it's tough. Like I said, any of these people could have finished anywhere in the top two to five. I think her talent level is a little higher than five, but I when the aerialism category gets tough, like yes, when they make a big change, we tend to see jumps, but it's like if the audience doesn't determine it was enough of a change, it does sometimes hurt them. I was very sold last year in Circa Maria, and they didn't even make the top five. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: So just that that category, it's like sometimes that upswing isn't enough, or sometimes it's too much, and then it becomes like a danger act and a lot of people don't watch it as much anymore. So I guess maybe that's where she fell at five. I had her a third on there. I d if she would have been out of the top five, I would have been mad. But in the top five, I I do feel like it's a just spot. I just would have personally put her higher from my preferences. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Steven, your thoughts on her fifth place and really on her season overall for Veronica. Stephen Anderson: So I'm gonna agree with you, Commenter. I think she was the best and most talented act this season by a country mile. I d don't agree with her finishing fifth. I don't even agree with her finishing pff she should have finished I think second, because we all knew Nene was gonna win this from well, we'll get into that. But I do believe that she did not deserve to be fifth at all. AGTCommenter: Yeah, no, I I I I I loved her talent and and was there's a reason we really liked having her on our team and why we wanted her. I I just I I thought the the the rethinking of that type of act with using that stick was very, very cool. Scott, she obviously had a great run. Your kind of parting thoughts for Veronica, your thoughts on her season in her fifth place. Scott: Yeah, I mean I know I'm probably not on the popular side of opinion here, but you know, the aerial acts for me, like I have a hard time like telling apart. Yeah, it's a little different with the stick, but yeah, I would have if she had been sixth, seventh, or eighth, that would have been fine with me. so yeah, that's just a preference thing. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I and and I I think you make a good point 'cause I will say this, the the aerialists over the last half decade have started to run together. we've had a lot of them and they've kinda looked the same. So the fact she was able to find something different and bring the the different prop I think was was definitely helpful. congrats to Veronica, top five, she finishes in four. Two more points for Cody and Commenter. that takes us to our fourth place result and it's gonna be the golden buzzer Terry's, right? Terry's golden buzzer Minnesota Ryan: I believe so. Yeah. AGTCommenter: back in the day. Royal Lasers from Team I thirty five. All the way back in Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: yeah. Royal Lasers is fourth. This to me felt like the right place, fourth or fifth for them. I I felt like that Stephen Anderson: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: made a a ton of sense. Steven is this was obviously your team. Were you happy? Did this make sense to you? Royal Lasers fourth. Stephen Anderson: Happy? No. But I mean But I mean did it make sense? Yes. it made sense considering the act kind of act they were. I mean, and we kinda talked about it amongst ourselves in the in a in our text thread. they're gonna go and do the same thing they've they've been doing. So like I mean good for them, but I mean like it it makes sense where they were going and yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, no, they're they're they got some interesting press last night too, going to Vegas and stuff. Scott for you, Royal Lazers. Is this a type of act you like? Your thoughts on their season and their fourth place finish? Scott: Yeah, it kinda grew on me. I'm not sure I loved their maybe audition as much as I should have. but each time I saw I was like, Man, this is good and this is probably like of any of the acts, if I was gonna sit down for an hour or two and have a full show, this is probably the one I wanna see. even more than Nene, probably. nothing wrong with rock music, but you know, i i yeah, I I think what they do is pretty impressive. The fact that they're maybe not the originators, they're they're licensees or something. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Sure. Scott: it's fine. Like it doesn't doesn't affect how much much you enjoy it. so yeah, I I feel like it's probably was about in the right spot. But it wouldn't have surprised me if they'd ended up even in second. because like I said, I I I just felt like I enjoyed it more and more as the season went on. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay for you, Royal Lasers has been I think just a a really consistent act. your thoughts on third or on fourth place for them? Jay: Consistent is an interesting word to use. I feel like we've seen light balance. We've seen light balance kids. We've we've seen light balance kids AGTCommenter: Repetitive, is that a better word? Stephen Anderson: Yeah. Jay: and standard in the champions. Like we've we've done it, guys. Like AGTCommenter: We've done it. Yeah. Jay: we we've kind of hit the ceiling of what this act can do. Stephen Anderson: Have we though? I'm kidding. We have. Minnesota Ryan: We need more. Jay: with that said, like They are continuing to evolve the technology and the storytelling. And you know, there was some things they did with like the background, you know, moving up and making it look like they were falling. And some of those tricks to make it a little bit more, you know, fully engaging, more encompassing, better storytelling, you know, like we're we're continuing to evolve, but like it we've seen it. I I don't need another version of the same thing. AGTCommenter: yeah, Ryan, do you share the same sentiment and and your thoughts on on fourth for Royal Lasers? Minnesota Ryan: gosh, that's like a deep question. So first of all, from my excitedness, I was pumped they made it to fourth. I've been on record the entire year saying they were gonna be fifth place since the day we drafted them, because that's what every electronic dance act ever ends up as is fifth place. So that I think they overachieved in my opinion. but when it comes to the larger picture of the act, it's a repeat. It is a repeat. And I don't I've also said that I don't think they were on the show to win. I kinda had a feeling they were on the show because it was so similar to Light Balance. I'm like, something feels off with them. Like I think they're on to broadcast what they do to bring people to their show. And with the announcement that they were then gonna perform with Light Balance, it was like, okay, well there you go. There's the confirmation of what I thought the entire season. So from a sake of the act, I think they overachieved what I thought they were gonna do for a sake of the show. Yeah, we probably could do without more of the same. Like can we change it up a little bit? Might be nice. That's kinda how I feel, but I don't hate seeing them there. It it's more fun than seeing a lot of other boring acts. So I'll I'll accept them. But it'd be nice to see them grow it. I wanna see them grow it more to not just be this same look kind of every time. That'd be nice. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I mean it's hard not to notice the similarities, obviously. Jade, you you did make the the one point. The technology has come I wouldn't say a long way, but it's made some strides where this was very more immers very much more immersive of an act than the old light balance was. But yes, it's it's close to a shot for shot remake. It is. Yeah. so Four and five, or fifth and fourth there, on to third place. To me this ended up being really the only surprise of the night, in my opinion. I just thought hundred fingers was I was like, they'll just be two. I thought there was a clear one too, based off of what I thought was going to happen with the voting. It is Hundred Fingers in third, our our our ten person magic act. Jay, this act kind of rethought both how group acts do things and magic acts do things and combined them. We don't see this very often. Your thoughts on Season twenty one, Hundred Fingers performances and and their third place finish. Jay: I will share more thoughts on this tomorrow night on the recap episode, but like their performance in the finale was more magic and less dance. And what I really liked about their previous performances was that AGTCommenter: Sure. Jay: it was like, this is a dance act that does magic. And I find that engaging. A magic act that does a little dancing is less engaging. And they they leaned a little bit too much into the magic. Also, there was a couple of flubs, a couple of props. That didn't work correctly. And that just like it it felt like they missed the mark a little bit. So third place, second place, you know, I could have seen them falling either direction. and you know, we'll talk about Gino in a moment, but you know, he kind of outperformed expectations all season long, and you know, 100 fingers was was steady if not Diving at the end. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Steven, is the hundred fingers for you, is it you n is it kind of its own new thing as part of the draw for you? What did you think of their season? Stephen Anderson: So I I'm I'm with in the camp with Jay a little bit. they did fall off at the end. you're right, Jay. They did make some mistakes in there. There were some issues there towards the end. I'm I'm I'm I'm not shocked they were third. I'm I'm actually surprised they didn't go fourth, to be quite honest. they made some mistakes and it cost them. Season overall, it was unique, it was different, which I enjoy seeing because after twenty-one going on twenty-two seasons, I think we've seen pretty much everything at this point. it was different, it was unique. Unfortunately they could not keep that up through the live shows and through the finale and it cost them. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Scott, is this what what's your final thoughts on the Hundred Fingers season in their third place finish? Scott: Yeah, I think you know, if you're basing your vote on the whole season, yeah, they're maybe the second best act. but I think Jay nailed it. Like, if you're voting based off of their finals performance, if that's how you vote in the finals, they're probably yeah, more towards that middle of the pack, fourth, fifth, sixth, and and probably overachieved even a little on that. So AGTCommenter: Ryan, you, me and Cody all had them second in in the pregame Minnesota Ryan: Second. Yeah. AGTCommenter: show. After last night, did you waver on that or did you even though yeah Minnesota Ryan: I did. AGTCommenter: it was maybe not the best, it's still what'd you think? Minnesota Ryan: No, I wavered pretty strong. yeah, so I had them second because statistically they were in a category of their own when you look at the kind of virality stats. It was like Nene like not even close to anybody else, and then it hundred fingers, and then it was kind of the rest of the crowd. So I thought they were the odds on favor to be second. They underperformed pretty heavily in the finals to their talent level, and that's what allowed them to then drop down. The only reason they were third is because they had such a good running going into the finals that they were able to save it with a bad, not a great performance. But my mom actually fast forwarded through them. We went halfway through and Minnesota mom was like, I'm kinda bored of this and then AGTCommenter: Hm. Wow. Wow. Minnesota Ryan: fast forwarded through. So that it was not a great performance for every single crowd. And I think that really harmed them having a shot to be f higher. And I think that Gino was more likable, more memorable. People got more on board with it and kinda just took the magic spot ahead of them, which you don't want to be the second best in your category in the finals 'cause AGTCommenter: Yep. Minnesota Ryan: you're not gonna do well at that s that standpoint. So yeah, no, I I'm kinda with Steven. I'm kinda stunned they were third after their performance. I I would have almost rather have seen Royal Lasers a little higher. I thought they were more consistent throughout the whole show. so not surprised they underperformed. They had a chance to be second. They didn't do what they should have, but they're still third. That's a great consolation prize. AGTCommenter: Minnesota mom with a go ahead, Jay. Jay: Well, Howie Mandel funding you and getting you a residency in Vegas is a pretty good consolation prize. I think better than third place even. Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. Great. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Not bad. Yeah. Yeah. I I would agree. Minnesota Mom with an at home red X, basically. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: to 100 fingers with the fast forward move. It's devastating. no, that's that's that's interesting. I guess my thought was just like, I'm not sure that all of these voters were watching close enough to notice some of the flubs, maybe. I don't I that was maybe my initial thought was just like I just think people really like this act, it's really cool, and why I thought they were just gonna stay two, but they do finish third. a great run for them and a a redemption story for Yuho Jit. Season Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. AGTCommenter: seventeen he was in the bottom five of the finals, correct? Is that right? Am I right on that? Almost positive. Minnesota Ryan: think I I the first time he performed, I don't even think he made the finals. It was when he came back. I think he came back on like did he? Okay. AGTCommenter: He was in the final seventeen. Minnesota Ryan: 'Cause he came back for like what fantasy league or something later and then was like a little better than he was before. I thought he was a kind of a double repeat. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but AGTCommenter: He was he was Minnesota Ryan: 'Cause the first time he performed I thought he underperformed like the first ever time we saw him, he didn't go as far as any of us thought he would. And then he came back and it did better. AGTCommenter: Yep, he was he was bottom five of the finals night in season seventeen. Yep. Minnesota Ryan: Okay, okay. AGTCommenter: so that leads us to our final two, Gino. and Nene standing next to Terry. We kind of all had a sense of Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: of where this was going. This was the worst kept secret in America of who was probably going to Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: win America's Got Talent season twenty one. we'll we'll save the winner. Obviously Nene's announced is the winner, which puts Gino in second. It is Chris Turner to me to a T. Didn't see Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, exactly. AGTCommenter: it coming and it just his quarterfinals I thought was awesome and it was a basically I actually didn't love the next two quite as much, but he went from here to here from auditions to by the end of it. And like you said, Ryan wasn't like this beloved online thing. It just he just kept getting better and better. I was really happy for him 'cause I just felt like he loves A G T too and that I felt like came through in his old Matt Franco thing. Steven for you, Gino coming in second place, did you see it coming? Were you were you surprised? Does this make sense? Are you pleased with him at runner up? Stephen Anderson: Defin well, I would have been pleased if he would have won. But I'm still pleased with him being runner out, a hundred percent. I mean he is one just a genuinely good dude. Like number one. I mean he's just a genuinely good dude. He is good at what he does. Is he Matt Franco level? No. But I mean he is good and he has a good mentor in Matt Franco and I do believe he can do something off of the back of this a hundred percent. he is someone that if I was in Vegas I would actually go watch. I think it is a good act. The way he presents it, the way he presents himself. The team up him and Matt did tonight in the finale was incredible to watch. So given the the inevitable result we all knew was coming, I think him finishing second is is a a win for him. AGTCommenter: He's just really likable. his personal he just I just think got people to to like him. Whether whether he was the cleanest magician we've ever seen, I think people ultimately just really enjoyed listening to him and watching him perform. Ryan, you and you and Steven had him on your team, so I'm sure you're very excited with how well he ended up finishing your thoughts on Gino Runner-Up. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah, I've actually ever gotten to speak on Gino because I just haven't I wasn't at the draft when we drafted him and haven't AGTCommenter: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: really got to talk on him, but I've actually we're I'm probably the reason we drafted Gino on our team. So yeah, so you go. I had Gino Stephen Anderson: You are. Minnesota Ryan: ranked seventh overall on the season on my initial ranking. So I I've been high on Gino from day one. and I and when when the draft was happening, I was listening to it later. I was like, Come on, Steven. Come on, Steven, can we let's get Gino. so to me, Gino, if you're listening out there, like I've always been a big fan of you. And a lot of it is 'cause what we already said. He Had great stage presence. He is a great mentor. I th I liked his early magic. He reminded me of a more talented Dustin Tovella. And we got to see how Dustin Tovello went off and obviously won the show. So I'm like, heck, this is someone who could really get a lot better. And he did exactly that. And I think he takes criticism incredibly well. And when you have someone who's a competitor who has a great mentor who takes criticism well, they succeed. and that's where I'm like, it doesn't stun me he made it to second. I mean, if you would me on audition, I've like, heck yeah, that's amazing. But like seeing his growth. I'm happy for him. I'm really happy for him because he actually might be one to take that second and do the most with it. Cause he would probably I don't know if he ever thought he was gonna win or even be close to winning. So to him to get second, I think he did his mentor proud and he's gonna take that energy and send it out into a probably a fantastic career in magic. So I'm super pumped for him. AGTCommenter: He seemed the most Stephen Anderson: Now in true dust and develop fashion he needs to go adopt like seventeen kids. That'd be great. Minnesota Ryan: Yeah y magic AGTCommenter: He Minnesota Ryan: act on each one of AGTCommenter: He continued to seem be the most surprised as results went on that he Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: was advancing. So I your point there, whether it was humility or just he was like, wow, I can't I can't believe this. This is amazing. shout out to Howie. Whether it was his advice or not, that he told him, like, hey man, you better not just be Matt Franco and and I can't imagine he was just gonna do all of Matt Fran Franco's performances, but at the end of day, that's why a good judge can be can be helpful. But I'll say this before I wanna get Scott's thoughts here, but we have the these top five. Nene went first overall, Hundred Fingers went fifth, Royal Lazers ninth, Veronica eleventh. Gino is the lowest drafted top five act by basically double. He was twenty first. So first of all, shout out us. We had all the top five drafted in the first half of the draft, which has not been the case historically. We've had winners that went like thirty fifth. So so Minnesota Ryan: Yep, Chris Turner. AGTCommenter: So shout out us. We we had a we had a beat on it this year. But Scott Gino, I I I think he's really likable is why you got the votes. Your thoughts on his runner up finish? Scott: Yeah, I think it's great. you know, I think especially you know, having to kind of split votes with another magic act. maybe the fact that it was more of a magic dance act helped, for sure. but yeah, I was probably most comfortable with Nene being the winner when he was the final, right? Like if it was Hundred Fingers, if it was Royal Lasers, if it was maybe even like Acro canine crew or something where it's like, I AGTCommenter: Yeah. Scott: don't know, people just love dogs. Like I could see them kind of upsetting. Gino, I felt like, hey, getting to two was already his upset. and so I I I was pretty confident, even more confident with Nene kind of winning overall when it was down to those two. I figured that was kind of best case scenario for for for team Nene there. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay, I'll go to you for your your genothoughts and I'll let you just run it into right into your thoughts on Naina win in the show as well. Jay: All right. Well, Gino, acquaintance of the pod. AGTCommenter: Okay. Jay: fantastic, right? Wisconsin guy, upper Midwest, neighbor to Minnesota, neighbor to Iowa. Minnesota Ryan: Let's go. Jay: you know, it it couldn't couldn't have happened for a better guy. and I think that you know, being coachable, being humble, putting the work in, like it it pays off and and that's that's pretty awesome to see. So I I won't repeat everything that you guys said, but yeah, it's it's it's a fantastic place for him to land. parlay this into something and you know make a career out of it if you want. and I think that he can. So with that I will say team Bach did the one thing that none of you guys could do and we drafted AGTCommenter: literally could not we couldn't do it. We weren't allowed. We didn't have the ability. Minnesota Ryan: We literally couldn't. Stephen Anderson: Yeah. Jay: We drafted the winner. So pin a rose on our nose. Scott: Eve we even got one less pick than everyone else, you know, and we AGTCommenter: You did. Scott: still you know p playing with a handicap, yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Mean I I did that last year and won, but okay. You you did the right pick. You did the right thing. Jay: S still still walked away with a victory. Stephen Anderson: Ha ha ha. AGTCommenter: You made the right pick. I'll say this, 'cause Stephen Anderson: You had the better winner, Ryan. AGTCommenter: everybody's like, Well ever well duh, they picked the most obvious. Well, you easily could not have. I c like I I there was a yeah, Cody and I had a lot of conversations Minnesota Ryan: Exactly. Exactly. She wasn't a golden buzzer. She was not a golden buzzer. It was risky. AGTCommenter: of was she's the r if we had the first pick, was she the right pick because of Ryan's thing of just some of the historical markers that pointed maybe away from her. But obviously as things went, she just clearly needed to go one. But Jay, you guys took her. You earned the having the winner. Jay: And then she AGTCommenter: Your thoughts? Jay: she performed seventh, and I was like, no, she's performing seventh. There's no way she can win. That's that's AGTCommenter: Yeah. No one's ever won from the seventh spot. Jay: so but there you go. we we picked up the the seven one split and feeling I mean i i this had been broadcast for months that she was likely going to win and so no surprises there. as far as the performance, like I'm really happy with it. It w Seven Nation Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Jay: Army, everybody can hum along, it's just a an excellent song. She looks great. She plays the guitar, she sings. I don't know if her guitar playing is better or her singing is better. And it doesn't really matter because it's engaging the entire time. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I I I loved the song. I I had my expectations was really high and I thought she just fell maybe short of those, but it was there was never a chance she wasn't winning. It was just she was gonna win and she deserved it. She earned it and I like that. Scott from the team from the Bach brothers, Nene is is our winner. Why'd she win in your eyes besides maybe just having all the fans? But on stage, what did she do in your eyes Scott: Sure. AGTCommenter: that that got her to number one? Scott: man. She She's got the look, she's got the feel. she she knows how to how to play to the crowd, right? she she she gets bigger when it's time to get bigger. she she doesn't skip a beat. It never feels like she's trying. It just seems to all come so easy, but but like is obviously so difficult. I think that's maybe the key, to to make something look like it's easy for you, but still very difficult. And and she nailed that. I th I think she was really, really, really good at that. AGTCommenter: Sh she was. yeah, it was she's like ma born to do it. This was what this was just natural and easy for her. Steven, I know you are not as big of a fan. I think part of my reason why she wasn't like my favorite favorite is I just don't love the genre as much. And I don't know if that's what it is for you. I want your thoughts and then we'll let Ryan go on on our winner, Nene Royal. Stephen Anderson: okay, so I'm gonna choose to keep this simple 'cause I have a huge explanation coming up later as as I've been alluding to. least surprising results in years. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah. Stephen Anderson: not surprised. AGTCommenter: Yeah, and it's funny because we've had back to back pretty unsurprising results. Jessica was v very confident going into that night, good all the same thing. And this one still felt even more obvious than than even those two. Ryan, is that how you felt and and your thoughts on her victory? Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. I'll make it clear that Nanny is probably the favorite act that it's never been on my team. I I love Nanny in every way and as the viral guy I should, because she's the most viral act that's been on the show since I've done statistics. She is more viral than Jessica. I've I put the numbers in after the finals and wanted to kind of confirm she beats Jessica in every number. so it is she was the winner and it's the two things I'll go to with her. It was one, stage presence. She has unbelievable stage presence. And I said that AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: when her audition when I thought she was already my one was there. I'm like, she I'm not scared that she's gonna have a bad night ever. Because she just works the stage so well. She could miss like 17 notes. I don't think anyone would care because she's rocking it out so hard and she's selling to the crowd. and then on top of that, do something that speaks to every generation. Now everyone's gonna have their preferences, but everybody could appreciate her talent. There wasn't a single person that walked up and went, That person's pretty freaking awesome. Even if I don't like it, she's pretty cool. And that's how you win a show. And then the virality on top of it, mean, it was guaranteed from the start. I mean if I add up just her finals numbers that's just happened over the course of like the past, you know, day, she's probably beaten the statistics of every single other act that's been in the show. Like that includes all their forty three other acts. Like that's how viral she really was. So yeah, it it isn't it isn't surprising. I don't know if we're gonna have a back to back like this with Jessica and Nene again. I think these were kind of a unique situation, but Nene is the most viral that's been on the show, so it's not shocking. AGTCommenter: Yeah, and I said it last night on my reaction pod. I I just really cause I was talking about she was gonna win, and I sh I have a lot of respect for her because she did it, no gimmicks. It was there wasn't an audition golden buzzer to prop her up. There was not a sob story to prop her up. This was a storyless season I talked about last night. Well who had a story is shocking. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: I didn't even realize it until they started trying to make up in the in the opening clips last night where they kept like bring introducing us to new characters in these people's lives to be like, look at look at this person, this'll make you cry. Like it was very storyless season and it was refreshing. Jay, you unmuted, I'm assuming you have some thoughts on this, but I I love that that that she won and she won kinda in a organic, old fashioned way. Jay: Yeah, we s the the the comments that I see, the the casuals out there, they're you know, y you always hear their their hot takes. what if there was no singers? What about the sob stories? You know, like and and people are tired of the sob stories. And I think that this season might have proven like this isn't really the place for your standard singers either. musical acts have a place, but you know, like I think that maybe production is moving past the sob stories. but when it comes down to putting, you know, a two hour finale on, like, maybe we'll we'll put a little bit of sob stories in here. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Yeah, no, it it's very interesting and and like I said, it didn't even totally occur to me, but I I couldn't even really think of a a good one. But Ryan, that's three straight singers, solo singers that have won the show. Goodall Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. AGTCommenter: and nineteen last year, Sanchez and and this year. It's not surprising. I didn't really ha I I wasn't a huge goodall fan. What what's happening there? Is that just a is this going to be a r a trend and we might go four, five, six, seven in a row, or is this just what it is in It's not really anything to looked into other than an individual instance on all three. Minnesota Ryan: I I think it's coincidence that it's singers. I do think it's three straight likability people with with stories that make sense for the season they're on. Now not like deep sob stories, right? But it's like Richard w you have three people that feel like America chose them. Right? And I'll go back to like 'cause Richard was like the homegrown janitor who never had anything and it's like they feel like us when they're performing, right? Jessica and yes, while Jessica was a singer, she was on American Idol and didn't win. It we almost like America felt like we didn't give her the just credit she deserves. So we wanted the redemption arc on top of that she was pregnant. So every single woman that went through hard times when they were pregnant wanted to cheer her on because that feels normal to us. And now we AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: have Nene, who's kind of younger. Everybody has a random dream. Their parents get them into a random skill. We all hope that our kids will find something that they enjoy and they love to the point that they get recognized for it. So all three of these people are very likable for a simple reason. It's because we relate to them, right? And we can cheer them on. We feel like we found these talents and we're putting them out there again. For the world to see. So I think it's more that of why it's been. And the singer has just been coincidence on there, you know. But you know, I think America wants to vote for things that make them smile, that make them feel happy, that make them feel like they made a difference in somebody else's lives. And so I think we're seeing this trend towards your top people. Let's go back to the second place, right? We had Ronnie and Rhythm was a very likable dog act. People could just smile and watch and enjoy. You go Chris Turner, this nice English man. Who's just out there using his skills. And now we've got Gino, a very likable magician who we can all cheer on, who's following his passion. So I I do think the trend is less towards talent. Now they're very talented, our winners, but it's more about do we like them as people? Do we want them to succeed? I think America is moving to more towards that because it makes us happy. It makes us feel like we did something for these people's lives. AGTCommenter: Yeah. All right. I just want to wrap up with two things. We'll we'll do our final parting thoughts. Probably Jay, we pro you and I probably don't need to 'cause we'll both be on one more time, but final parting thoughts on season twenty one. I wanna wrap up the fantasy league though. So it was a landslide. It it was we were the nay nay of the fantasy league, let's be honest. It's Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Yeah. AGTCommenter: final tally. Cody and commenter with fifty one, Ryan and Steven with thirty six, so a fifteen point margin. Minnesota Ryan: We tried. We tried. AGTCommenter: from one to two and then down to the Bach brothers at twenty seven. We won it, we just kept advancing acts. Our highest finisher was third and fifth, like the but we had th over half the final. We just Minnesota Ryan: Yep. That's actually fun that you guys had the lowest placing finisher of all three. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I didn't love our six. Did that we're in the final if I'm being honest. I just like hopefully we can get a hundred fingers a second. I I wasn't yeah. I'm gonna go to to Jane Scott first. Where'd it go wrong, boys, 'cause yes he had the winner, but only one finalist. eleven of your fifteen were out of the competition before the semis Scott: I I think it went wrong AGTCommenter: Whoever wants to go. Scott: in the semifinals. is is probably w where like we had our chance there. Like going in, we were at like sixteen and you were at like twenty seven, which if we assume Nene's the winner then we're basically at twenty six versus twenty seven. So we really needed our semifinalists to show up. and it just didn't happen. They they kinda fizzled out. I was really disappointed in Cesar Diaz kinda going back to the same well. I'm AGTCommenter: Hm. Scott: I'm I know He's he's a clown. He's got lots of different things he does other than just the icing and things go wrong. but maybe he just was afraid of doing the, you know, upside down piano playing or whatever, you know, and AGTCommenter: Yeah. Scott: changing what was kind of working too much. But I I I think there was just too much same and especially being on back to back weeks, you know, from his quarter to his semis. that was just just just wasn't much space there for him. So yeah, I other than that, I think it's just that Jay and I are just Quirky dudes who like quirky things. that's okay, right? Like, AGTCommenter: Yeah. Scott: that's that's why we love AGT, right? If we only liked popular things, we we'd be on an American Idol podcast. but that's not where we are. We're here because we like we like the weird acts and the fun acts and the unique things. and that's how we draft. So even though we didn't get the most points, I I I still believe we had the most fun cheering for our team. So Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Scott: I you know, I don't think anyone I I I doubt anyone enjoyed cheering for their act as much as I enjoyed cheering for for Cesar Diaz. So I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll double down on that one. and take take the loss with grace, but but but it was it was fun just to just to belong and and get to play with you guys. So yeah, thanks AGTCommenter: Yeah. Scott: for including me. AGTCommenter: It's this the thing I said about Caesar, I wanted things to go worse in the semis. Things needed to go w like I was like, could he burst into Jay: Yeah. AGTCommenter: flames or s like let's get worse? W who cares if you tip over? Like the Jay, any regrets when you look at Bach brothers, it's easy to be like, Well, none of went through, so that would be a regret, but or are you happy with the crew you put together and it just didn't go your way? Jay: You know, I'm I'm happy with it. we went all in on comedians and AGTCommenter: Yes. Jay: you know we've yet to see a comedian win the show, Minnesota Ryan: Yeah. Jay: but they usually make finals and you know Daniel AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay: Alvarez was our only guy to even sniff it and it's AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay: just you know, it it it didn't didn't happen this year. Ashford Sanders was our number our second pick. Like he's got you know, good all upside and it just didn't materialize. And there's just a number of acts that is like, geez. You know, we I went to the the the golden buzzer well for our Ruben rolled on and he didn't didn't produce and it's just you know, there there was a lot of things that I thought we did right that didn't come through. you know, I'd like to say that I'd blame everything on my brother. AGTCommenter: I d I that's fair. Scott: Fair enough. Yeah. AGTCommenter: I don't see how you could go any other way. Scott: Blame blame the new guy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Jay: But well I'll I'll take the lumps. I'll I'll stand firm and say, you know, we we made the choices together and i you know, that day that I opened up the the spreadsheet after after semis and it was all red. It's just like sad me. AGTCommenter: It's a bloodbath. yeah. Scott: Terrible. AGTCommenter: I'll say this. I'll I'll do my quick thoughts on my team and I'll let Ryan and Steven go before we get out of here. we were the only teams whose first overall pick didn't advance. And we won we can't even see you guys in the rear view mirror. It we we nailed it kinda in the in the middle at the back end of the draft. We we we found some val value there. And we went heavy golden buzzer. We gr we grabbed f half of all five of scored points. and I think one, two, three all five of advan no, four of the five advanced. So that was really where I felt like we found our value, but it was very fun. I always have fun with this league. St Ryan, you weren't a part of the draft. so it was a very different sort of participation from you this year. Your thoughts on team by thirty five? Minnesota Ryan: Yes, I I wanna make one thing clear before I start 'cause I haven't gotten the chance to really say this. Like I know obviously we'll make excuses here and we'll joke all the time I wasn't president and that affected our team. I looking back at my board, I don't think I could have given us a chance to win. I think you guys drafted incredibly well. Is there areas we could have made it closer? Yeah, we probably could have. But I don't think that would have changed the ending result. So I wanna congratulate you all. Even though I wasn't present, you did earn that win no matter what. but you looking back on it, I realized how much of my draft strategy was actually a change in the moment. And this is I think one of the reasons why I was able to succeed for so long. I I was a listener of the podcast for so long. I knew you guys pretty well. And AGTCommenter: Mm. Minnesota Ryan: so in the moment I could kind of gauge where your plans are while being there. And I was doing that when I was listening back to it with Steven, like when he was doing his draft, and I'm like, I was realizing, we know we should change here. We should change, change the rankings, let's rotate it, but obviously it wasn't there to tell him that. So obviously I will take credit for where we ended. on our team as that we didn't win. We didn't have really a chance to really fight for it because if I was there, I could have given him those directions. I think as a team, we would have done a little better on some where to put certain picks because he was just using my rankings. And for all he knows, I might have already changed them as I got into Ireland. He's just picking off this list that I gave him. That's a really hard spot for me to put him in. So he did a fantastic job getting a second place with what I gave him. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: but it does mean I really want to be present. For next year's if we're doing this strategy again, I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna be prepared. We're doing mock draft, Steven. We're gonna we're gonna do everything possible to make sure that we we get you your first win. That's my plan for next year. Stephen Anderson: Hell yeah. AGTCommenter: mock drafts. Could be the difference. I liked the team thing. I did. I I think it was night the reason I liked Stephen Anderson: It was fun. AGTCommenter: it i is it made bigger teams. and having more acts on a team was was fun. Steven, I'm gonna I'll throw it to you to wrap up your thoughts on the fantasy league and then you can you can parlay roll right into your parting season twenty one unfiltered thoughts. Stephen Anderson: Yeah. So where we're wrong, O Ryan was enjoying his time in Ireland and he promised no I was getting you he didn't promise me an Irish lady, but I know, I know. But no, but for real Minnesota Ryan: No, that's secret secret, secret Stephen Anderson: in a in a real sense, I probably should not have p have picked Timu clairvoyance to to be my my second pick. Minnesota Ryan: That was our decision. That was our we my ranking did not help guide you. So you don't you're not taking full blame for that. We'll both take that. Stephen Anderson: Timber Clairvoyance. That was fun. But yeah, so I mean overall, I'm gonna say something that's probably gonna make me unpopular with this group and with this podcast listening group team here. it's gonna annoy a lot of people, but I'm just gonna say it. And I have a new show coming out called Steven Anderson Unfiltered. This is my unfiltered take on season twenty one. I think this has been the most boring season of America's Got Talent in years. yes, I know. I know what everyone's gonna say. Minnesota Ryan: Spicy. Stephen Anderson: Nene Royale, the viral act of the season, the winner. I get it. She's honestly incredible. She is a talented 17-year-old. She is very good at what she does. She's obviously the most viral act, I think, in AGT history. Ryan, we can fact check that, but I'm pretty sure she is. Howie Mendel basically Wrote her a check two weeks ago in in the semifinal and then last night. But what I will say is a viral phenomenon does not make good TV. And what I mean by that is this. It's no secret, I have watched this show for 21 years. And I'm old. But with that being said, this is the first time in 21 seasons that I put America's Out Talent on in the finals. As background noise. I was barely paying attention last night to I was checking my phone, doing other things on Twitter and or X that we're calling it. And there was a time where like I I I look up and I see Terry's fuchsia pink suit and I'm like, How many acts did I miss? That's never happened to me before. And here's one of the things that's gonna get me in trouble. Ryan, you picked Jessica last season. I truly believe sitting here today on September twenty third, twenty twenty six, Jessica Sanchez is a better winner than Nene. I think Jessica is a Minnesota Ryan: Ooh, spicy. Spicy. AGTCommenter: Mm. Stephen Anderson: much more talented, overall talent winner than Nene. Her performance tonight, na Jessica's performance tonight with Leigh, I think was the best, well, second best if you count Gino, top two guest performance of the of the night. So Nene may have been the viral act of the season, talent most talented act in a mediocre season, but I think Jessica for me was the stronger overall act. Richard Goodall, I think, was a better winner than Nene. I will say that. Minnesota Ryan: That's spicy. Stephen Anderson: I will say that. So that's what makes Minnesota Ryan: That's spicy. Stephen Anderson: this season so weird to me. Is you can have Nana, you can have Jessica, you can have Richard Goodall, you can have these guy people that are genuinely good at what they do. And I'm still coming away from this season thinking, it wasn't great TV to hear Howie Mandel in the semifinal say, Give her the million dollars, America, give it to her right now. And then Mel B, if you don't win tomorrow, I'm gonna have sell Howie's house. Howie pushing for America to give her the million. At that point, I tuned out. Like, what's the point of watching if we know she's going to win? We we all know, all of us here tonight knew she was going to win from the judge cuts, second round, whatever we want to call it. We knew that was going to happen. So it wasn't compelling television. Was she talented? Yes. Were there moments of talent? Yes. I'm not debating that. Was I compelled by this season? No. And as somebody who's watched this show for 21 seasons, that's where to me I was not compelled by this season. Now I understand it's not going to be for everybody. And everybody listening out there right now, probably like, what the hell is this guy talking about? I never have him back again. But I mean, for me, it was a middle of the pack season. Wasn't the worst, wasn't the best, but it was in the middle. Jay: Steven, I would like to make a counterpoint. the quality of the season does not depend on the quality of the winner. Stephen Anderson: Yeah. Jay: there are hundreds of acts. You know, dozens make it to the live shows, and am I entertained by those dozens of acts every year? I am. And that's like it who wins, who lose like ultimately if if we're ranking champions, sure, she may not be the best champion. That's fine. it's very subjective, but am I entertained? And like I don't have to have a winner or a loser to be entertained. I can just be entertained. And I think that, you know, I like I say, any AGT is good AGT. And like the winner was broadcast to us. We all knew And I still enjoyed. AGTCommenter: Yeah. I'll say this. go ahead, Stephen. Stephen Anderson: That's fair. That's fair. But so first of all, we can y'all are definitely invited on on to unfiltered, we can debate this there. Minnesota Ryan: fun. Stephen Anderson: But I mean what I will say is this on that on that point. You definitely can bring your own filter, yes. AGTCommenter: Well there w sh do we bring our own filters or are there no filters? Okay. Stephen Anderson: What I will say that Minnesota Ryan: Okay. Stephen Anderson: is this though. yes, I do agree, Jay. You do not have to have a good winner to make a good season. I agree with you there. But look what we all just said moments ago. Ryan, you said it yourself. We've seen enough of these light acts. Minnesota Ryan: Mm-hmm. Stephen Anderson: we've seen enough of those. How many times can we watch Aerolists do what they do? After how many times, right? After 21 seasons, have we seen it all? Now, are some of these acts entertaining? Of course. I've said it on, I think it was either a reaction pod or on I said it somewhere on the show. I think it was to Cody, where I said, none of these comedians have made me laugh. No comedy is subjective. We all laugh at different things, but for me. None of these comedians made me laugh this season. Now, Jay, Scott, Brian, commenter, you guys may have a different humor than I do, and that's totally normal. Nothing wrong with that. But for me, just me pe speaking personally here, I didn't find any of them funny. So that's just me saying, you know, that's just my opinion. But with that being said, I do agree with your initial point that a good winner does not make a good season. But for me, the overall talent for for this season was middle of the pack. Hundred Fingers, definitely up there. Gino as he got more into the season, definitely up there. Leigh, if she would have been more consistent, definitely up there. But overall talent for the season, I would say middle of the past. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I I I I'll wrap your thoughts up with this. there spoiler alerts are a thing for a reason, right? When you know the outcome it makes things a lot less fun, right? So yes, were some of the intrigue lost of the season certainly. But I I loved a lot of this talent. I think you're right. I think it'll end up being kind of somewhere in the nine to twelve best season range in my opinion of talent, what it was, whatever. So and I enjoyed watching her every time, even though I knew she was gonna win. I Thought she put on a really entertaining performance. Scott, floor is yours to when you look in a year, three, five, ten years from now, how are you gonna remember season twenty one of America's Got Town? Scott: gosh. I think a couple of things. I think it felt like a little bit it was a season of magicians. I felt like they went pretty far. You know, two of the top three. and then a year of fusion, right? We had the dance magician, we had the dance dogs, we had the aerialist pole, right? and I think maybe that's coming from some of what Steven said. We've seen it all. and so you've still got a surprise and you've gotta do something new. Yeah, even our winner was not just a singer, but a singer slash guitar player, right? So I think I think maybe fusion is gonna be the way things go. Maybe it'll be a a singer slash danger act in the future, or I don't know, dog slash aerial s. Let's let's not hope that PETA doesn't get on our case then, but you know, something like that. so maybe this is the start of a trend, maybe it's a one off. but yeah. overall it was an enjoyable season. like you said, No surprises probably in the finals, but I I echo Jay. all AGT is good AGT. and and you know, there's a reason it's been going for twenty one seasons, right? because they keep they keep sending us things that entertain us. And that's getting harder and harder to do in our fractured media landscape. So you know, good on them and and I hope it keeps up, no matter what Simon Cowell's future is with the show. AGTCommenter: Ryan, how you gonna remember season twenty one? Minnesota Ryan: I maybe this is the popular answer, but I'm gonna say I remember this for Nene. I'll be genuinely AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Minnesota Ryan: honest. If you take five years from now, if I look back on this season, I may remember Gino, I may remember Hunter Fingers, I may remember Veronica. Those are th three acts that I think I could compare to future acts and look in the future. But like outside of them, I'm probably gonna forget most of who was in this final and in this season, and I'm gonna remember Nene because she was the most viral act that I had seen doing these statistics, and I'm probably gonna change how I do my stats going forward based on her. so to me, like I said, if this season, if we're looking at it. I'm gonna look at it from a virality statistics standpoint because that's where it taught me the most about AGT and what the direction of the show they want it to go. And I'm gonna take an Ana. That's kind of the honest truth. AGTCommenter: I agree. To me, this is the Nene season. It's not the case every year that the winner kind of defines the season. I think the Vanderwalls, the Darcy Lynns, the Cody Lees have done that. I think she's similar. I'm just gonna remember this. Remember when Nene was on? Of course, she was a superstar. So very fun season. Jay, I'm sure you and Cody will give kind of your deep thoughts on this if you want to have any parting thoughts. I'm sure you also I I appreciate these guys for all their help this year, but any other final parting thoughts you have before we get out of Jay: Yeah, I'll just say to the team, like this is so much fun for me. I I love getting to watch the show and having people to to share my thoughts with and people to bounce it off of and then like people to like actually get into a a fantasy draft with me. Like how much fun is that? And you know, like it it There's a a fantasy football thing happening at the school and I'm like, I I just don't care. But AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay: but I was like, guys, like this like this is my Super Bowl. It's happening this week. Like, whatever, Jay. Okay. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Jay: But thank you guys for for finding your way to be a part of this with me, to, you know, give me, you know. some people to bounce it off of and to to share the platform with me. it's it it's life is better with friends. And so you guys you guys do make it better. AGTCommenter: Yeah, but this was this been great. us five, Cody obviously. Just wanna make sure I shout out everybody. Corey came on and and from Talent Recap. We had Jake Beliashar was on this season as well. Am I missing anybody? I think that was the the the contributors this year. So Jay and Cody are gonna rock tomorrow night, the full season recap, and then Cody and I and Ryan, if you're available Sunday, are gonna do the final wrap up. We'll go through leaderboard stuff and historical things that are not quite as urgent. and when that wraps that'll be thirty-two episodes for the AGT time pod season twenty one coverage. And I think that's something to be proud of and and pretty impressive. So shout out to all you guys, Jay, Cody, everybody that's helped. It's been very fun. Scott, hopefully you enjoyed your first time in the fantasy draft. It was great to have you. Hopefully we'll I think this six can run it back again next year. but this was this was great, Scott. Did you have want something? Scott: No, just was gonna say, yeah, it was fun. Yeah, count me in. we'll we'll run it back. I c I can't guarantee that I'll be any better at drafting next year, but I promise to have as much fun. Jay: I'm really glad this isn't one of those fantasy leagues where we have to stand on the street corner with a sandwich board that says like, I suck at drafting or like Yeah, yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah. Punishment next year. Yeah. Minnesota Ryan: Punishments. Scott: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Twenty four hours in a waffle house, that kind of thing. Yeah. AGTCommenter: all right. Let's let's wrap it up. This was great, boys. Congrats to Nene. congrats to me and Cody on the win. Just just a bundle of winners here. so Jay, you and Cody will be back tomorrow night and then we'll wrap it up and then the pod's gonna take about a month off and catch our breath after, like I said, a thirty two episode sprint, including whatever it was, probably twenty twenty episodes in the last six weeks or whatever. We ended up doing eighteen episodes in the last six weeks, something like that. So, Jay, I'll let you just kinda close it out and then you will see you and Cody tomorrow. Jay: Yeah, rate review subscribe at AGT Time Pod. I always like to remind you guys to stay safe, and we'll see you next time.