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Why are MLB catchers getting hit in the groin more than ever? + Angels 1B Trey Mancini joins FT · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Today's article that We'll hit for in the weeds Ball
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  Speaker 1: Strike System Ball Strike System, Why MLB catchers are getting
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  Speaker 1: hit in the groin more often, written by Zach Mazelin
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  Speaker 1: the Athletic percent of pitches caught with one knee down
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  Speaker 1: ninety six percent this year. Twenty twenty, we were at
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  Speaker 1: twenty three percent even twenty twenty two. A few years
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  Speaker 1: later we have fifty nine percent, and now it's basically
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  Speaker 1: every pitch. That was one notable part of this conversation
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  Speaker 1: in the Athletic, with twelve current informer catchers pointing to
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  Speaker 1: the one knee stance being a big reason why they're
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  Speaker 1: taking crotch shots more often. The other major reason that
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  Speaker 1: was explained guys is slow foul tips have nearly doubled.
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  Speaker 1: Not slow foul tips have nearly doubled since two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight, doubled since two thousand and eight. There's good
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  Speaker 1: stuff out there, and it's often getting tipped into the
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  Speaker 1: wrong places. On the one Let's let's cover this first
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll give you some quotes that I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you'll have answers for it.
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  Speaker 2: But aj thoughts on why so many dudes.
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  Speaker 1: Are getting nailed in the Nott that they don't have
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  Speaker 1: the data for that, they don't keep track of that,
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  Speaker 1: although I'm sure somebody's trying to cook that up. But
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  Speaker 1: that's what everyone's saying in the sport.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, this, this is all I'm saying. I know what
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  Speaker 3: I caught. I had, And by the way, ninety six
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  Speaker 3: ninety six percent, there's a four percent uh Higashioka because
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  Speaker 3: he's like the only guy who's on two feet the
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  Speaker 3: whole time, so he's like the only one that's catching
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  Speaker 3: now on two feet. But I remember when I called,
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  Speaker 3: especially with nobody on base man, I almost tried to call,
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  Speaker 3: curl up into a ball back there and hide behind
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  Speaker 3: my shin guards and use the padding and be as
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  Speaker 3: be as protected as I possibly could. But now with
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  Speaker 3: the one knee down, I have a son who catches
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  Speaker 3: with one knee down, and he gets hit in the
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  Speaker 3: inner thigh.
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  Speaker 4: All the time.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is exposed. There's no padding on that. When you
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  Speaker 3: were on your two feet, your your your legs were flatter,
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  Speaker 3: so they were behind your shin guards which are right
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  Speaker 3: here crouched as you know, right, and then your legs
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  Speaker 3: would go behind them, and it covered so much more area,
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  Speaker 3: but now with the one nee down, that area is
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  Speaker 3: just completely exposed to foul tips. And that's it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the reason is because they're catching with the one nee
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  Speaker 3: down and there's no padding there. And listen, there's gives
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  Speaker 3: and takes right, You're you're you're gonna get more pitches
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  Speaker 3: called strikes, but you're also gonna get hitting the nuts.
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  Speaker 3: It can a little bit more. So which one would
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  Speaker 3: you rather have? A guy on two legs or getting
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  Speaker 3: hit on the nuts.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously there's no stat that says, yeah, it's hard hit
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  Speaker 5: rate and the nuts is.
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  Speaker 4: Is higher than everyone else.
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  Speaker 5: That is no like, here's here's my opinion of why
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  Speaker 5: guys would if they are getting hit more often now
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  Speaker 5: and the stat I don't see the stat to back
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  Speaker 5: it up yet, but whatever, whenever the stat comes out,
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  Speaker 5: if they're getting hit by more tips, it's because the
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  Speaker 5: best receivers move closer to the hitter. If you move
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  Speaker 5: closer to the hitter, you have less of a chance
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  Speaker 5: the ball is going to be right here. And it's
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  Speaker 5: always the farther away you get, the less of a
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  Speaker 5: chance you have of getting hit. The closer you are
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  Speaker 5: to the hitter, the better chance you are of getting
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  Speaker 5: a foul tip off of you, and the best receivers
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  Speaker 5: are really really close to the hitter. That's why we
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  Speaker 5: see just a massive uptick in catchers interference. When I
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  Speaker 5: was still playing in twenty nineteen, I was trying the
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  Speaker 5: one knee thing, and they said you gotta be closer.
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  Speaker 5: You got to be closer to the hitter because they
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  Speaker 5: want you to get the low strike. And when that happened,
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  Speaker 5: I got the first catchers interference of my entire career
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  Speaker 5: in the second game that I was trying it. So
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  Speaker 5: when you're closer, you're going to get hit by more pitches.
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  Speaker 5: That's just the reality of the situation. The farther back
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  Speaker 5: you are, the less low pitches you get. But the
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  Speaker 5: more high pitches you get, when I'm saying, you get
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  Speaker 5: them called strikes that are balls. So that's why guys
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  Speaker 5: are getting hit more often. It's not because they're down
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  Speaker 5: on one knee or But I do think we're going
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  Speaker 5: to see in the next five years all Star, which
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  Speaker 5: is the greatest catching gear company of all time, come
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  Speaker 5: up with some type of pad for a thigh or
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  Speaker 5: an inner thigh that catchers will wear.
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  Speaker 4: Because that's now exposed.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm, well this article took a turn and started going
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  Speaker 1: down the route of the one knee catching. Okay, Austin
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  Speaker 1: Hedges was quoted in here and he said, there are
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  Speaker 1: still people who think it's stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Those people are stupid.
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  Speaker 1: It's maybe the greatest nuanced to catching ever, just for longevity.
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  Speaker 1: When you think about it. You were doing a wall
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  Speaker 1: sit one hundred and twenty times a game. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: just sitting there on one knee. There's no meaty leg
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  Speaker 1: stress anymore. Steven Vote, who is his manager, talked about
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  Speaker 1: how he thinks it added a couple of years to
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  Speaker 1: his career, and then they later went over Tyler Flowers
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  Speaker 1: being credited with starting the trend in twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 3: I was there with them, I was there. I played
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  Speaker 3: with him. I remember in twenty sixteen we were on
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  Speaker 3: the Braves my last year and he was the other
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  Speaker 3: catcher and everybody in the Brave is like, what is
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  Speaker 3: he doing? And he was. He was getting more low
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  Speaker 3: pitches called, and that was kind of what started the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing. People are complaining, you know, he's him pass
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  Speaker 3: balls and wile balls are getting by him. So he
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  Speaker 3: kind of started the whole thing I remember this, and
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  Speaker 3: he still works with the Braves, and he'll have issues
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  Speaker 3: since he's part of four three. Uh kratz. So he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna he sees this. He's gonna have issue with you
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  Speaker 3: that you know you said All Star was the best.
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  Speaker 3: When he'll be like, oh, well we have Fource three.
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  Speaker 3: So just the FYI I have you get a call
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  Speaker 3: from him later. But yeah, he started this and listen
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  Speaker 3: if I could have called I mean, I don't have
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  Speaker 3: any problems crowds. I don't think you have any problems.
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  Speaker 3: But man, I can't even imagine sitting on one ee
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  Speaker 3: if you were knee savers. When I played a you
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  Speaker 3: when I was with the Twins and I came up
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  Speaker 3: and knee savers just came out. I remember I wore
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  Speaker 3: them one time in our in our bullpenk coach Rick
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  Speaker 3: stillmasic ristin p Stelly. He was like, what the bleep
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  Speaker 3: are you doing? You cannot let Tom Kelly see those.
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  Speaker 3: I was just trying them out, just to try him.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, you look so lazy. He looks so stupid. Right,
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  Speaker 3: So it was that was more it. And when you
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  Speaker 3: remember Tony Paine, you had the one league out and
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  Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh, it's such a showboat. Now, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: all you go to little league to the big leagues,
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  Speaker 3: every catcher is on one knee. It is so rare to
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  Speaker 3: see a guy catch on two feet and listen, I'm
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  Speaker 3: all for it. If it helps you get more strikes
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  Speaker 3: and it helps your longevity and it keeps more guys healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Why are we saying no to this?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: And I wore knee savers my entire career and I
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  Speaker 5: got the exact I mean, catching coaches that I respected,
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  Speaker 5: you can't wear those.
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  Speaker 4: I went to.
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  Speaker 5: I forget what organization I went to towards the end
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  Speaker 5: of my career, and they're like, oh, man, in the
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  Speaker 5: minor leagues, they don't they don't allow knee savers. And
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  Speaker 5: I would just say, or a thumb guard. I would
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  Speaker 5: wear a thumbguard and they were like, ooh no, our
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  Speaker 5: minor league catching coordinator is not going to allow that.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, why why what is it going
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  Speaker 5: to hurt to me? It's gonna help me. So I
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  Speaker 5: wore nie savers. I was still able to get low enough.
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  Speaker 5: I still was above average when receiving numbers. It's what
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  Speaker 5: kept me in my career. But what else kept me
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  Speaker 5: in my career we talked about at the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Of the show. I stayed healthy.
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  Speaker 5: I was not a very good player in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 5: but when they needed somebody, I was there to be
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  Speaker 5: able to fill in. And that's the reality. And so
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  Speaker 5: if hegy says being down on the knee, he's the
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  Speaker 5: perfect one to ask. I was there when he was
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  Speaker 5: a rookie with the Padres, and you know he's trying
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  Speaker 5: to make it to the big leagues. He was an
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  Speaker 5: elite defensive catcher. If he's like I was catching like
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  Speaker 5: this before, now I'm catching like this at an older age,
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  Speaker 5: and it helps his legs. It's genius, and it helps
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  Speaker 5: him get pitches. I think there's other way of getting
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  Speaker 5: other ways of getting pitches. But if it's down on
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  Speaker 5: one knee.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect crouch.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we're excited to bring on Trey Mancini of the
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  Speaker 1: Angels joining us right now. That must feel good to
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  Speaker 1: even hear that too, Trey, great to have you back
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Super thankful that you're joining us right
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  Speaker 1: after making the re debut. How you doing and how's
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  Speaker 1: the last few days been for you? Man, Oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: I think we got your muting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there we go. Yep, go ahead, No, we got you.
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  Speaker 2: Now we got you. You're good, yep great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Like you said, it's like debuting all over again.
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  Speaker 6: It was the same emotions all day that I felt
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  Speaker 6: ten years ago when I debuted. The you know, not
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  Speaker 6: really sleeping the night before, not eating much during the day,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a little nervousness, but also excitement, adrenaline, and
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  Speaker 6: then when the game started, you know, the whole world
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  Speaker 6: just kind of slowed down. And I hadn't felt that
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  Speaker 6: since September twenty sixteen when I debuted, so I didn't
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  Speaker 6: expect to ever feel that on a baseball field again,
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  Speaker 6: and it was. It was pretty incredible. Trey.
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  Speaker 3: What was it like, though? Who told you to keep going?
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  Speaker 3: Because you had a nice run for a while and
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  Speaker 3: we talked I think it was last spring training you
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  Speaker 3: came on and we talked about it and you were
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, oh, I don't know if I can
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  Speaker 3: keep doing this, And then you went and did it again, right,
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  Speaker 3: and now here you are.
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  Speaker 6: Back in the big league.
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  Speaker 3: So who kind of talked you into keeping going?
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  Speaker 6: Brady Anderson is like the sole reason I'm still playing.
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  Speaker 6: He reached out to me originally in July of twenty
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  Speaker 6: twenty four and told me that he thinks I should
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  Speaker 6: give it another shot and keep playing, And deep down
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  Speaker 6: I knew that I could, but I had an extended
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  Speaker 6: period of time where I didn't play well and didn't
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  Speaker 6: know if I wanted to get back into the game.
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  Speaker 6: And I was fine being done, but something just kind
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  Speaker 6: of started eating away at me at how my career ended,
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  Speaker 6: and knowing that I still had the ability, I think
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  Speaker 6: would eat away at me maybe years later. So I
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: went and hit with him a few months after he
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  Speaker 6: reached out to me, and it felt great, and the
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  Speaker 6: Diamondbacks gave me the opportunity to get back in the
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  Speaker 6: game that offseason.
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  Speaker 5: What is what's tougher playing poorly or playing well and
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  Speaker 5: not getting to get back to the place where you
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  Speaker 5: want to be in the big.
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  Speaker 6: Leagues, I would say, I mean, playing poorly is tough,
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  Speaker 6: But you know, for a few years there, especially, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I was diagnosed with cancer in twenty twenty and I
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  Speaker 6: think it took a huge mental toll on me for
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  Speaker 6: the years after which I didn't expect, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: thought it was going to be you know I'd go
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  Speaker 6: through chemo and it would be done, but you're still
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  Speaker 6: really concerned about your health after the fact. And I
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  Speaker 6: think my confidence took a huge hit, just kind of
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  Speaker 6: slowly over the next few years, and I became a
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  Speaker 6: bit of a shell of myself on the baseball field,
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  Speaker 6: I think because of that. And you know, it took
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  Speaker 6: being away from the game in twenty twenty four to
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  Speaker 6: I think get over that and admit to myself that
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  Speaker 6: I wish that I could have, you know, snapped out
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  Speaker 6: of it a little bit better. But you know, hindsight's
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty so it's incredible to be back and have
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  Speaker 6: the opportunity to play again with that perspective and thinking
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  Speaker 6: that I was done. You know, I felt a million
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  Speaker 6: miles away from from baseball. Like even this past fall,
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  Speaker 6: I was like just playing tennis on my tennis team
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  Speaker 6: at the country club, like I thought I was retired
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  Speaker 6: for good. You know, I was getting ready to announce
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  Speaker 6: it before Brady called and they Joulanuary Trey.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of things. You're ranking new tennis.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pretty good. I'm I'm a four. I've got like
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  Speaker 6: a four or five fourhand, but like a two five backhand,
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  Speaker 6: so I like go around the ball every time. My
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  Speaker 6: backhands terrible, but I can. I can hit a forehand
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  Speaker 6: pretty well. Serves get serves gotten pretty pretty decent too.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, as long as you can get the serves in,
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  Speaker 3: that's all that matters. Just get them in and then
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  Speaker 3: go from there. I bring that up. I bring that
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  Speaker 3: up because you look more like a tennis player than
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  Speaker 3: a baseball player. Now you're like skinny, dude, Like did
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  Speaker 3: you go Keto or did you go Fatkins? What did
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  Speaker 3: you go here to?
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  Speaker 6: I mean you're looking yeah, dude, ran and in twenty four. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: when I was done, I was like, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 6: just gonna start running and get into like normal shape.
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  Speaker 6: I was like two forty at one point and just
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  Speaker 6: kind of felt heavy. My joints didn't feel good. So
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  Speaker 6: I got in shape, and I actually like playing at
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  Speaker 6: this weight a lot better. So you know, when you're
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  Speaker 6: in your mid thirties, you can you gotta shed some
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  Speaker 6: weight so you can move around a little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: Trait do you ever? I mean, I played, I used
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  Speaker 3: to play tennis a lot, and then I got the
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  Speaker 3: fasci itis in my foot, and now I've had to
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: take like a couple months off. Have you ever had that?
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: How do I get rid of it?
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: Please tell me it's probably the shoes you're wearing.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I've tried every shoe on the you've tried.
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  Speaker 6: I bought shoes off Instagram.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: I bought shoes off from Korea, China and North Korea, Iran, Iraq.
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  Speaker 3: I've tried every shoe.
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  Speaker 6: And so get you some cocoa golfs New Balance. Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: that's fair, that's my recommendation.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, trip right.
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  Speaker 5: Try did you come in did you come in after
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  Speaker 5: your three for four game the next day and go, well, whoa, whoa?
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  Speaker 5: You can't over expose me here when you looked at
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: the line up, like you gotta there's a joke that
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: yo guys say, you get a big game, it's the
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  Speaker 5: first time like a thousand gate days between your games.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, I gotta play back to back days.
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  Speaker 4: What's up with this?
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  Speaker 3: Kurt?
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  Speaker 6: No, I mean I'm telling you, like I told myself,
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  Speaker 6: if I made it back, I'd be no matter the
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  Speaker 6: situation and day like, I'm I'm gonna be ready to go.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm I'm so thankful for this opportunity. So whatever
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  Speaker 6: my role is, I'm thrilled to do it.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask you. Have they said,
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  Speaker 5: what your role is going to be when they call
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  Speaker 5: you up? Was there a moment in Salt Lake when
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  Speaker 5: they called you up? Were you on the road? Did
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  Speaker 5: you get a text that you were getting called up?
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  Speaker 5: How did did Brady say, hey, bro, we're calling you up? Like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: wait a minute, I thought my Triple A managers supposed
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  Speaker 5: to do this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. So after the game, our our manager in Triple
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  Speaker 6: A came in and told the team that the bus
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: was leaving for Reno at two o'clock tomorrow, but that
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be on it because I was going to Anaheim.
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  Speaker 6: So it was. It was. It was, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: like getting called up again for the first time and
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  Speaker 6: just a moment. I'm always gonna remember, Trey, did.
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  Speaker 3: Your teammates know who you are? Because all these guys
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  Speaker 3: are so young, any of them are like, wait, what
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  Speaker 3: do you mean? This was in your big league debut?
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  Speaker 3: Like you played you played three years ago, Like you
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  Speaker 3: are so unk right now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. So I always joked like in Triple A, there's
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  Speaker 6: always we always have kids run on the field with
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: us before the game, and they stand with us for
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: the national anthem, and like every single kid out there
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: like had zero idea who I was. And I'm like, yeah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: when I was good, Like, they weren't born yet, So
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: it makes sense to me that, you know, some of
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: the younger people have to go like deep into the
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  Speaker 6: world to figure out who I am.
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  Speaker 5: Try would it been funny? And did you did you
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: make the joke? You could have had one of your
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: teammates run. I don't know the prospects that are in
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: triple A. One of the teammates could have run onto
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: the field with you and stood at your position instead
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: of the kids from the stands.
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  Speaker 6: I know. It's I like, absolutely loved my experience in
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: the minors, but yeah, I felt old at times, I'd
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: say the last couple of years with some of the
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: lingo that you know, twenty to twenty three year olds
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: have nowadays, there's a generational gap there with the communication,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: I'd say. But they are all incredible kids, and it
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: was really fun to kind of be the old guy
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: and share some advice with them and get to play
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: with them.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: My dog Bella would do anything for a treat, and
• 17:36
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• 17:37
  Speaker 5: care of her long term.
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  Speaker 3: Do they make you do tiktoks with them? And do
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: they make you do all this crazy stuff?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I know?
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, TikTok's an absolute like non starter for me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Perfect. That's one of the big things that you just said,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: you know, triple A for the A's or Angels. Sorry,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: not the A's is in salt Lake. I played in
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: salt Lake long time. I played ninety eight, ninety nine,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: two thousand parts of all three of those seasons in
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: salt Lake. Right, what's salt Lake like, because there's a
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: lot of talk about it being an expansion. I played
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: in salt Lake. I loved salt Lake City. It was awesome,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Like that was twenty five plus years ago. Right, it
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: was awesome. But can you give people that have never
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: been there what it's like as a baseball town and
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: what it's like to be on the Salt Lake it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: not the buzz anymore. I think it's the Bees.
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  Speaker 6: Now the Bees. Yeah, it's awesome, like such a great city.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: So the old stadium was downtown, and then last year
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: they built a new stadium about thirty minutes south of
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: downtown in this area called Daybreak, which is incredible. The
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: whole valley, whatever you want to call it, like salt
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Lake City in the great area is amazing, and I
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: feel like they've gotten great support for the hockey team.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: The Mammoth and the Jazz obviously have been there for
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: a long time, so it absolutely can sustain a major
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: league team, and I think the support would be huge there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: I think a franchise would do really well in SLC.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: All right, Doug Davis is your manager? Are you sure
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: or not? Or he was the manager in Triple A?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: If he is completely all there or not?
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: He dugs the man he like, he's such a he's
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: got such a good like way and temperament about him,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: and he's he's not gonna say anything if it doesn't
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: need to be said. There's no fluff. It's get out there, play,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: do your job. And I love that. You know, he's
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: old school and and you know he he knows a
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: lot about the game, but he lets you play it
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: and and I think that it works really well, especially
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: at that level.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: He sent me down one time from Triple A to
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Double A and I throw a trash can across his office.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: So that was a tough time in my life.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: But anyway, so Doug, he didn't take it personally.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: He did not know like.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's ever I don't think he ever
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: really gets mad love.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: He probably liked a little bit of the energy.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he still has his little, like little tuft
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: of hair that he pulls back up the middle of
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: his head. My question is a triple a question. Did
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: you watch this series between the A's and the Brewers
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: at the Las Vegas launching Pad and does that give
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: everybody a little bit of a glimpse of maybe the
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: PCL numbers can get a little skewed.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so when you play in the PCL, So I
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: hit a ball last night. It was a sackfly. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: hit it one oh two at thirty six, and the
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: first thought in my head was, oh, man, like that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: gone in Vegas, or that's gone at El Paso. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: this ain't the PCL. You know, you got to you
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: gotta get it, especially when the marine layer comes in
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: at night. So you know, earlier in the year in
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: the PCL, I feel like it's a little colder and
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: it plays pretty fair. But as the summer hits, the
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: ball flies, And yeah, that Vegas game was kind of
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: kind of crazy the other night.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, you want to see a team,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: check out the two thousand Salt Lake City Buzz and
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: get back to me, Trey if you want to see
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: some numbers. Well, check out that number.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Check out some of the name I'm check that out.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I think we hit I think we hit like three
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: twenty as a team for the whole year. So I mean,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you want to see some numbers with the PCL. Check
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: out that team that we had. It was it was stupid.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: After we're done, that's insane.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we scored a thousand runs. It was
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Greaty we averaged like eight runs a game that it
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: was absolutely incredible.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Everybody had like six played appearance is a game.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Oh we just tell the pitchers hold him under eight
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: guys will win? Okay, just win? What's up here?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: What year?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Thousand, two thousand, salig buzzs Salt Lake City Buzz back
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: when we were the buzz Still But Trey, what do
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: you what do you see in the Angels? I mean,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: you've been around, you've been on good teams. What do
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you see in the Angels when you go there? And
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Kurtzuzuki first year manager? But just what do you see
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: in the players? I saw something the other day where
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: they're saying Netto shouldn't be playing shortstop? Like wait, what,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: like what are we talking about here? Like you see
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you see these guys on every day basis.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: He's incredible up he's so good at short I don't know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I see all there's really it's a really talented team.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: And in spring training I saw it and and that's
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: kind of what kept me going too, was I I
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: really wanted to be a part of this team and
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: this franchise. And you know, the al is is pretty open,
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: it seems this year. So it's a really talented team.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I'm thrilled to be a part of it. And and
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: you know, I think that we can do a lot
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: of great things.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Hey uh oh, I got one. Thank you. Any good
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: combos with Trout so far? And did you know him prior.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Just from spring training? Dude, he's I mean I've obviously
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: played against him for a long time, and you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: to to be performing at the level that he has
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: his whole career is you know, nearly impossible to do.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: He's one of the few few people in the world
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: that can do what he does. He's the man, super humble,
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: great guy, just goes out there every night and plays
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: hard and he's done that his whole career. So it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: an honor to get to play with him.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I want to finish this conversation kind of with the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: same theme we started it on, because the story is
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: awesome to be back after a few years in the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: big leagues. Do you think anybody's going to watch and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: be inspired? And it doesn't necessarily have to be like, oh,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: somebody's been out of the game for two years and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they go, hey, Trey, mind Seed's back, let me give
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this a shot. But just in general, I like talking
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to guys that have the inspirational story. Sometimes it's hey,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: it took me forever to get to the Biggs, or
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in this case, hey, I had to have a single
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: individual tell me you've still got it. You need to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: take another run at this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think just one person believing and you can
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: make all the difference. If Brady didn't text me that summer,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't still be playing. I probably would have retired
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: a few months later and been okay with it. But
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: I think years down the line, I would have looked
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: back and wondered what if. And I knew it was
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: going to be hard. I knew it wasn't going to
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: be necessarily glamorous, that I'd have to kind of like
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: start start over again, And from an analytical perspective somebody
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: at my age and the position I play is not,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: you know, going to be necessarily very appealing on paper.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: But I'm so glad to have been given the opportunity
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: to come back. And you know, I still can't believe
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: I'm here and that it happened.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's inspirational. It's awesome, man. We talked about it yesterday.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: We were pumped to have you on for this and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of young ball players that listen,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: so it means a lot. Trey, thank you so much
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: for joining us. Great to catch up with you. Keep
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: doing your thing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: We're watching.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Tuxi, thanks for having me on.