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Bill Riley on the proposed changes to CFB calendar, March Madness expanding to 76 teams, Most important newcomer for Utah FB + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: You tuned to The Shan O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
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Speaker 2: Time to welcome in the voice of the huge Bill
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Speaker 2: Riley here on the Shan O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 2: Bill Riley, how are you.
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Speaker 4: Sean O'Connell. I'm great. What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, just sports and stuff, A lot of
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Speaker 3: things I wanted to pick your brain about. But one
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Speaker 3: of the things is now that we have our own
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Speaker 3: NHL team, although that team is out of this year's
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Speaker 3: Stanley Cup playoffs, and of course our NBA team here
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Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City is not in the NBA playoffs,
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Speaker 3: which is more interesting to you right now. I'm sure
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Speaker 3: nobody's watching every single game of every single series, but
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Speaker 3: NBA playoffs or NFL.
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Speaker 4: Playoffs, Stanley Cup playoffs, no doubt. And that was even
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Speaker 4: the case before we had the Mammoth here. I just
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Speaker 4: love the Stanley Cup playoffs. I love the action, I
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Speaker 4: love the way they do it. I don't really get
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Speaker 4: interested in the NBA until we're a little further along.
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Speaker 4: I've almost forgotten what the NBA playoffs look like here
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Speaker 4: in Salt Lake City. It seems like it's been so long,
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Speaker 4: but now I've always been a hockey playoff guy, and
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Speaker 4: now with the Mammoth here. I was saying this dispense
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Speaker 4: the other day when I was talking to him. I've
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Speaker 4: just and being out of the day to day like
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Speaker 4: you guys do, I just I feel like I can
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Speaker 4: kind of settle in and be a fan. I didn't
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Speaker 4: grow up in the town. Kansas City didn't have professional
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Speaker 4: hockey and a minor league team, but I didn't have
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Speaker 4: that growing up, so I never really had an NHL
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Speaker 4: team to root for, and the Mammoths kind of give
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Speaker 4: me a little bit of fandom, which sometimes we lose
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Speaker 4: a little bit when we do the jobs that we do.
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Speaker 4: So I'm loving I love the series with Vegas. I
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Speaker 4: hope it starts up a little region rivalry. But I'm
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Speaker 4: far and away in on the NHL a lot more
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Speaker 4: than the NBA right now.
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Speaker 3: Because you mentioned Kansas City, are you familiar with Hawaiian Bros?
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Speaker 2: Was that around when you were in Kansas City?
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Speaker 4: No? Is that one of the many Hawaiian restaurant chains,
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Speaker 4: what is Hawaiian Bros.
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Speaker 3: Hawaiian Bros Is a chain, a fast casual chain in
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Speaker 3: Kansas City that apparently is running. They've been running a
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Speaker 3: promotion this year where if the Royals score more than
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Speaker 3: six runs, you get a free plate lunch. And apparently
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Speaker 3: they had to discontinue it because they've already given away
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Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand dollars worth of free lunches because the
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Speaker 3: Royals are scoring a lot of runs.
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Speaker 4: Were they just expecting the Royals to be a really
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Speaker 4: bad offensive team this year? I guess they didn't have
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Speaker 4: high hopes for the roy Now, the Royals haven't been great,
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Speaker 4: but their bats have come alive lately. So see, that's
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Speaker 4: never a good look for you as a restaurant because
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Speaker 4: it kind of feels like you're welching on a bet,
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's like, oh, yeah, we're
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Speaker 4: gonna do this. Now, maybe we're not. Maybe you do
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Speaker 4: a little bit more planning and say, okay every time
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Speaker 4: the Royals score eight in a game, because eight's a
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Speaker 4: pretty big number. Eight rhymes with Hawaiian plate, And then
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Speaker 4: you go in that direction. But what'd you say, with
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Speaker 4: five or six.
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Speaker 3: Six runs at home games, it's like and I looked
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Speaker 3: at I was like, okay, six, yeah, six is a
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Speaker 3: lot of runs, but it's not like a lot of runs.
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Speaker 4: So they brought the fences in a Kaufman stadium this year.
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Speaker 4: They should have taken note of that. They brought the
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Speaker 4: fences in like fifteen feet. I mean, there's going to
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Speaker 4: create more offense.
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Speaker 3: There's been There's been whole seasons of Royals baseball where
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Speaker 3: they've averaged five runs a game. So six was not
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Speaker 3: the right place to put the threshold if you're giving
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Speaker 3: away free product.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: Well, they should have also talked to their barbecue brethren
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Speaker 4: before they ran that. Hey, you guys have been around
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Speaker 4: a lot longer than we have, and the barbecue joints
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Speaker 4: would have said, yeah, don't do that, we make a
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Speaker 4: lot of money, or don't do that. But they probably
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Speaker 4: were trying to make a splash and a barbecue market
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Speaker 4: and it came back to bite.
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Speaker 2: Them, absolutely did.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, We're not here to talk about random Hawaiian food
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Speaker 3: promotions in Salt Lake City, I mean in Kansas City.
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Speaker 3: Let's get to some of the things that are a
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Speaker 3: little bit more salient here in the world of college athletics,
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Speaker 3: including the news that there's been a unanimous approval to
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Speaker 3: expand NCAA basketball tournament to seventy six teams. We didn't
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Speaker 3: need sixty eight. Probably we all got used to it.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that we need seventy six. Hopefully sooner
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Speaker 3: than later. You're calling running utes basketball in the tournament again,
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Speaker 3: But what do you think of seventy six teams?
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Speaker 4: Not a fan, I'm not. I didn't like sixty eight.
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Speaker 4: I thought sixty four was a great number. Again, nobody
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Speaker 4: that's in those last you know one, from sixty eight
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Speaker 4: to seventy six. Nobody in those last eight teams is
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Speaker 4: going to win the NCAA tournament. We know this. That
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Speaker 4: means you're going to have to win seven games instead
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Speaker 4: of six games, probably because you're gonna be in some
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Speaker 4: crazy little play in tournament to get into it. I
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Speaker 4: just I think it's unnecessary. Sean. Now, I know we're
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Speaker 4: gonna probably pivot to the football side of things in
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Speaker 4: a second. It's not the end of the world. It's
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Speaker 4: probably gonna save some coaches' jobs because they can say, hey,
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Speaker 4: we got into the tournament and you know what, if
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Speaker 4: you toss one of those last eight teams in this year,
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Speaker 4: I'll be thrilled because I'll be calling NCAA Tournament basketball.
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Speaker 4: I just don't think it was needed, but somebody, the
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Speaker 4: television network somewhere probably wanted it. It's probably gonna add
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Speaker 4: an extra fifteen seventeen million dollars to the purses of
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Speaker 4: the coffers, and so it's done. I just don't think
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Speaker 4: it's needed myself. What about you.
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Speaker 3: I don't need it, I don't love it, I don't
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Speaker 3: want it. It is exactly what you said it was.
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Speaker 3: It's a money grab. And that is what college sports
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Speaker 3: are all about right now. This is sports in general
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Speaker 3: are all about right now. And I guess that's just
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Speaker 3: the way it's got to be. And you know, I'll
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Speaker 3: watch did whatever we call them. I'll watch those games,
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Speaker 3: you know, the first four, the first eight, now the
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Speaker 3: first first four, the week zero four, however we decide
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Speaker 3: to term them. Speaking of week zero, are you in
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Speaker 3: favor of the scheduling changes proposed by the AFCA.
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Speaker 4: Are you talking about moving week one back to week zero?
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Speaker 3: I am a season earlier, and the season earlier. There's
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Speaker 3: a push they wanted the season to be done by
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Speaker 3: the second Monday in January.
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Speaker 4: Frankly, I'd love the season to end by New Year's
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Speaker 4: Day and play all of your big games right around
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Speaker 4: that or right after that. But yes, I am. We're
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Speaker 4: jonesing for football. Just back camp up a week so
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Speaker 4: you're starting in mid you know, the second to last
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Speaker 4: week of July instead of the last week of July.
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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody will be upset with that, except
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Speaker 4: maybe a coach who's having to cut his trip to
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Speaker 4: Hawaii or Mexico shorter to get back. But I'm for it.
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Speaker 4: I like it, and I like the fact that, you know,
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Speaker 4: because it looks like we're going to probably expand the
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Speaker 4: playoffs again, you probably begin the playoffs a little bit earlier,
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Speaker 4: you know, maybe on what would have been that championship
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Speaker 4: weekend in early December. I don't know, but no, I'm
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Speaker 4: all for it. The sooner we can get college football rolling,
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Speaker 4: I'm good with it.
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Speaker 3: That is one of the proposals as well, get rid
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Speaker 3: of conference championship games.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I know, if you're going to expand the playoff and
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Speaker 3: you're going to start that on whatever, December sixth, it's
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Speaker 3: necessary for the conference championship games to go away. The
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Speaker 3: idea of getting rid of them is not my favorite.
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Speaker 3: I'm here for any case that people want to make.
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Speaker 3: Where are you on that argument?
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Speaker 4: I like the conference championship games because I think it's
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Speaker 4: a good reward for having a great season. It also
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Speaker 4: maybe gives you a chance to play your way in,
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Speaker 4: like last year had it been Utah in set of BYU.
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Speaker 4: But even BYU, had they been able to pull that upset,
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Speaker 4: they could have earned their way into the playoff. I
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Speaker 4: do like those games. I mean, if you said you're
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Speaker 4: gonna do away with them, I'm not gonna lose sleep
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Speaker 4: over it. But I got to call a bunch of
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Speaker 4: PAC twelve championship games, some that Utah won, some that
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Speaker 4: they lost. They weren't good, they were fun and it
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Speaker 4: was great pageantry, and it kind of felt like the
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Speaker 4: reward of a good for a good season. But now
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Speaker 4: is the playoff is at twelve and maybe expanding bigger,
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Speaker 4: which I'm sure we'll talk about here. There's a chance
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Speaker 4: and if you were going to play in that game anyway,
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Speaker 4: you're probably gonna be in that in that playoff, in
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Speaker 4: that next level. So it's not the worst thing in
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Speaker 4: the world. But I'm kind of like you. I'm I
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Speaker 4: kind of like those games, and maybe because I got
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Speaker 4: a chance to call some part of it for.
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Speaker 3: Me really is how big are you gonna make the field?
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Speaker 3: And is there gonna be an automatic threshold where you know,
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Speaker 3: the Big Twelve gets three teams in in your twenty
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Speaker 3: four team playoff or whatever, because that my fear is.
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Speaker 2: If you'd get rid of conference.
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Speaker 3: Championship games and you eliminate the opportunity to play your
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Speaker 3: way into a playoff for that number two team in
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Speaker 3: the Big twelve conference and there isn't like an open door,
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Speaker 3: then it's going to be a one bid league. And
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Speaker 3: on top of that, you know, like you're not a
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Speaker 3: national championship contender if you're in the Big Twelve right now,
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Speaker 3: you're just not and that sucks. But the pinnacle of
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Speaker 3: your season right now, if you're Utah, if you're Texas Tech,
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Speaker 3: if you're BYU until we see somebody prove otherwise, the
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Speaker 3: pinnacle of your season is not to say you made
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Speaker 3: it to the College Football Playoff.
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Speaker 2: It's to say that you won your conference. That's what
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Speaker 2: you hang the banner for.
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Speaker 3: That's what you get the championship ring for like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's great to make it into an expanded field, but
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Speaker 3: the same thing with an expanded NCAA tournament.
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Speaker 2: You're just like, all right, well, yeah, we're.
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Speaker 3: Team number seventy four, we're team number seventy two, we're
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Speaker 3: team number twenty two. In college football, that means you
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Speaker 3: just had a good season. You're not a national championship
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Speaker 3: contender if they're going twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 4: Here's your other problem, too, Sean. What what happens if
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Speaker 4: you don't have your conference championship game and two teams
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Speaker 4: finish with ten and two records, and maybe they were
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Speaker 4: each seven and one or seven and two in conference play,
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Speaker 4: but they didn't play each other.
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Speaker 2: That's right, true?
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Speaker 4: What are we going to the third common opponent, a
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Speaker 4: team that you beat in September to determine that you're
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Speaker 4: the conference champion? And you know, you know how I feel.
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Speaker 4: I hate CO champions I just ties CO champions I mean,
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Speaker 4: I just I don't like it. So, I mean, if
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Speaker 4: you're doing away with a conference championship game, there's going
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Speaker 4: to be maybe not every year, but every few years,
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Speaker 4: And I just I hate a formula, you know, in
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Speaker 4: a third tiebreaker to determine who the conference champion is.
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Speaker 4: Conference champions should be determined on the court, on the field,
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Speaker 4: if that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: It worked well to not have a conference championship game
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Speaker 3: when you had eight and ten team conferences and everyone
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Speaker 3: got to play each other.
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Speaker 2: Now that you've got.
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Speaker 3: Eighteen teams and sixteen teams in these conferences, you are
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Speaker 3: invariably going to run into a situation where two of
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Speaker 3: the three best teams did not play against one another,
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Speaker 3: and you're relying on convoluted tie breakers to name a
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Speaker 3: conference champion. I mean, we already were relying on those
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Speaker 3: things to get people into a conference championship game. If
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Speaker 3: then you leave it to the coin flip to decorate
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Speaker 3: a conference champion, that is unsatisfying in a lot of
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Speaker 3: different ways.
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Speaker 4: Do you mean when the Big ten actually had ten
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Speaker 4: teams and the Big eight actually had eight teams, and
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Speaker 4: the Pac ten actually had ten teams?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The fact that we still use the numbers is actually
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Speaker 3: one of the dumbest things. It's one of the silliest
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Speaker 3: things that we do. The Big twelve has twelve teams.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, of course not.
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Speaker 4: Oh in the day and a where we're we're where
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Speaker 4: we are rebranding everything and putting corporate sponsorships on them.
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Speaker 4: It's amazing to me that the Big Ten and the
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Speaker 4: Big Twelve and some of these leagues, don't you know
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Speaker 4: the Atlantic Coast Conference. There are two schools that literally
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Speaker 4: sit on the Pacific Ocean. Why are you calling yourself
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Speaker 4: the Atlantic Coast Conference. The only one that makes any
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Speaker 4: sense is the SEC, and even that you could kind
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Speaker 4: of stretch because they've got schools in Texas and Oklahoma.
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Speaker 4: That's right, we just need to re again. We're probably
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Speaker 4: going to get to a super conference at some point
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Speaker 4: in time that will have you know, they're going to
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Speaker 4: have Capital one super Conference on it or whatever it
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Speaker 4: might happen to be. But the fact that these conference
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Speaker 4: commissioners haven't sold their rights and just rebranded these things
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Speaker 4: is amazing to me.
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Speaker 3: All Right, you know, I love a list, and ESPN
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Speaker 3: put out a list about the most important newcomer at
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Speaker 3: each power for school for Utah, they decided that the
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Speaker 3: most important newcomer on the roster was Kelvin Obot and
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Speaker 3: they make a nice case in the little blurb.
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Speaker 2: I think we could make the same case.
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Speaker 3: But he's not the only guy you can make a
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Speaker 3: case for, is Kelvin Abot the most important newcomer on
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Speaker 3: the Utah roster?
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Speaker 2: And if not, who is it?
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Speaker 4: It's hard to say right now. I don't think he's
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Speaker 4: definitively the most important. I think he could certainly play
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Speaker 4: a very important role on that offensive line. I think
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Speaker 4: you could make a case for Braden Pagan wide receiver,
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Speaker 4: being the most on a team that has not had
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Speaker 4: big play wide receivers consistently. This guy seems to have
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Speaker 4: the makings and the markings of potentially being a big
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Speaker 4: play wide receiver. So I would I would put him
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Speaker 4: on that list as a potential, you know, important newcomer.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a super long list, Sean, I don't.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: You might say, maybe it's Tedrick Jefferson, the kid from
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Speaker 4: Montana State. Maybe maybe it's him. I'm trying to think
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Speaker 4: on the defensive side, I don't know that there's a
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Speaker 4: guy that you're gonna look at and say, this guy
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Speaker 4: is going to be an immediate impact, can't miss guy.
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Speaker 4: Could be one of the corners that plays opposite of
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Speaker 4: Scooby Davis. But we'll see. But I think for me
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Speaker 4: it would be Obot or Pagan? What about you?
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Speaker 2: Pagan was where? What was the next name that came
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Speaker 2: to mind for me? For sure? I think that who's
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Speaker 2: the North Texas kid that transferred to the.
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Speaker 4: D N kid Ethan Day?
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Speaker 3: Ethan Day could be on that on that list, that
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Speaker 3: short list. Kyrie Shole is also another wide receiver. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean, and of course the sexiest one is the
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Speaker 3: five star, highest rated recruit in program history, and he
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Speaker 3: is going to play It sounds like I don't think
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Speaker 3: he's gonna play tackle though, and that like guards are important,
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Speaker 3: but they're not as important as tackles are.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's what I mean. And you're part of a
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Speaker 4: five man unit. Now, Now if you're saying he's the
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Speaker 4: starting left tackle, then I might say, okay, protecting the
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Speaker 4: quarterback's blind side as a freshman, that's pretty important. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: when I talked to Jordan Gross and some of the
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Speaker 4: coaches in spring, they were still kind of yeah, there's
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Speaker 4: I'd be very surprised if he isn't one of the
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Speaker 4: five guys. But yeah, where he fits in that puzzle,
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Speaker 4: I think is what they were trying to figure out
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Speaker 4: this spring. In this summer, they'll have those five guys together.
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Speaker 4: I think they've got I think they know they've got
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Speaker 4: five or six really good guys. I think they're just
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Speaker 4: trying to figure out where those guys work best. Is
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Speaker 4: that kind of the vibe you got when talking to
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Speaker 4: some of the coaches.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, And that's the case almost always, like who's
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Speaker 3: our best five? Positional versatility is something that this Utah
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Speaker 3: program has valued in their offensive lineman for years, and
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Speaker 3: even the guys who went on into the NFL this
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Speaker 3: last year. I mean Kump got signed as an undrafted freezer.
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Speaker 3: He played every position on the offensive line. One of
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Speaker 3: the reasons he has an NFL future potential is because
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Speaker 3: of that right so.
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Speaker 4: Well and two Sean, if Obot does start inside, that
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean next year of the year after, he couldn't
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Speaker 4: kick back outside. I think tackle spot.
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Speaker 3: I think there's no chance he finishes as a guard.
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Speaker 3: Even if he starts as a guard, I believe that
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Speaker 3: he is probably your future left tackle. That is a
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Speaker 3: massive ask for a true freshman, even one as physically
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Speaker 3: impressive as him, and especially when you have a six
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Speaker 3: foot eight inch long armed guy who's already played the position,
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Speaker 3: who's a senior, Like if there's no other option for you.
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Speaker 3: And you're saying, all right, Calvin, we're gonna throw you
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Speaker 3: into the deep end right away.
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Speaker 2: But they have some options.
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Speaker 4: I think you're talking about Zero Away Williams, and he
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Speaker 4: here's the thing. We might have seen Zero Way Williams
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Speaker 4: playing sooner. Zaraway has had a lot of injuries throughout
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Speaker 4: his career at the University of Utah. He's one of
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Speaker 4: those guys where you're just hoping he can stay healthy
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Speaker 4: and it all comes together for him because he looks
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Speaker 4: the part. As you just said, He's got the measurables.
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Speaker 4: He just has to You know, your best skill sometimes
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Speaker 4: is your availability. If he can stay healthy, I think
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Speaker 4: Utah has got a really good left tackle, and to
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Speaker 4: your point, he's been in the program five years. He's played,
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Speaker 4: but he's been around high level college football and been
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Speaker 4: with those guys. So yeah, So if he ends up
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Speaker 4: being the left tackle, and say Kelvin Obot again this
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Speaker 4: is all speculative, ends up being your left guard in
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Speaker 4: your want, I don't think that's a bad thing for
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Speaker 4: Utah at all, not at all.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're up against it here.
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Speaker 4: Well, if you get run over by somebody as big
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Speaker 4: as Zero Way Williams or Kelvin Obot, you might need
17:56
Speaker 4: a personal injury. Not those two guys in particular, but
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Speaker 4: somebody of their. Maybe you're at work, maybe you're walking
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Speaker 4: down the street and somebody just runs you over. Well,
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Speaker 4: you need somebody to represent you because you're probably gonna
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Speaker 4: have some medical bills. They may have been at fault.
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Speaker 4: You want somebody who's looking out for your best interest,
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Speaker 4: and that's what the guys at Handy and Handy do.
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Speaker 4: Garrett and Preston Handy are awesome attorneys, great guys, and
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Speaker 4: they've been in business for a long time. They get
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Speaker 4: almost fifty I think maybe more than fifty years of
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Speaker 4: experience now math is hard. They've been doing it a
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Speaker 4: they're gonna sit down with you or somebody in your
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Speaker 4: family that needs the help and represent your interests and
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Speaker 4: I hope nobody out there ever has to call them
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Speaker 4: because that means you haven't been in an accident or
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Speaker 4: haven't suffered some sort of a happenstance in your life.
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Speaker 4: But if you do, you want somebody you can fight
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Speaker 4: for you and get the job done. And that's what
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Speaker 4: the guys at Handy Law you talking.
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Speaker 3: To eight oh one eight nine to zero forty seven
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Speaker 2: Bill. Thanks for your time.
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Speaker 4: We'll talk some food next week.
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Speaker 3: See you, Bill Riley, voice of the Utes and occasional
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Speaker 3: fill in host here on the Sean O'Connell Show. It's
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Speaker 3: hilarious that I say that, because, of course I took
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Speaker 3: over a Billies on the radio for like twenty years