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Two Wrongs Still Don't Make a Right · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day
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and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, eighth day
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of November. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me. Week end of the
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month, two weeks away from I guess Thanksgiving Eve, right, I mean,
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that's what we're looking at. A couple of weeks to Thanksgiving coming up
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fast. It's all happening. It is all happening, and it feels like
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with a number of activities going on, it's just making things go much more
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quickly, right with Obviously the holidays always make it go by faster. And
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then there's a number of school activities, whether you're kids in a school that
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has some sort of a social event in the around Christmas time, whether it's
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a concert we've got we just had an orchestra performance in our family, We've
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got a band show coming up, of course, me and the Nutcracker.
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It's all coming up and it's happening quickly. And I want to remind you
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if you are attending the Columbus Ballets Nutcracker at the River Center and you have
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plans to attend it, there's a couple of things. The shows are the
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sixteenth and seventeenth of December. That is the obviously one week before Christmas,
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and that's Saturday and Sunday. There is a special event on Saturday that is
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the Mother Ginger's Tea event, and I will be hosting that, or at
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least I hear someone who sort of looks like me but much taller, will
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be hosting that event as Mother Ginger. And if you would like to be
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a part of that event, my understanding is limited number of space available for
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that, so you should get tickets for that sooner rather than later. It's
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going very quickly, and we want to thank the folks at w C.
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Bradley who sponsored this event for us for us to be able to make this
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happen at the River Center, and that is on Saturday the sixteenth at lunchtime,
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and then that evening there's a Nutcracker show and then there's a matinee show
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on that Sunday, so it kind of all comes together that weekend and looking
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forward to getting back up on the stilts. We're working on some brand new
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things for this year's show, including this tea party event that I'm really excited
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about. I've been trying to get them to do this for a couple of
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years. It finally all fell into place and we're all ready to go with
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it. So really excited about the performing again. This is a really fun
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radio guys. Once upon a time when you heard someone on the radio,
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they were live in studio. That's pretty uncommon. Now it's almost never happens.
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Not going to say it never happens. I was doing a morning news
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talk radio show live, even from my house during COVID, I was doing
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it live, but there weren't. There aren't many. There are very few
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people that you hear on the rest. Sorry, pull the curtain back.
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Almost none of them are actually live. Some are not many, almost none.
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They've recorded it earlier in the day. And that's that's why when you
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call, you probably aren't going to get anybody on the phone. It's just
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the reality. It's the nature of the business. It's once upon a time
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it was about serving the community a number of different ways. It's a business,
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and I'm I'm a free market guy, so I can't really complain about
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that side of it. I just wish that there was more interaction with the
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community. I do, and that's what podcasts ultimately have become. An opportunity
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to do that and have a direct connection with the community that way. But
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being able to do something live on stage for an audience, we get an
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immediate response when you're on stage. You know, I've done jokes on stage.
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I've done not a true like stand show, but I've told some jokes.
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I've been the host of some stand up shows and you go out and
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you welcome the crowd and use to tell a few jokes. It's quite addictive
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when you get that immediate response. Radio. The only time you get an
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immediate response is if you said something that wasn't right, or you said something
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that got people all worked up. That was about it. I did TV
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for a long time, and you know, most of those shows were recorded,
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some of them were live. I like the immediate response of the live
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show. So it's fun to be able to do this and get an immediate
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reaction. And I'm very curious to see how this tea party goes. I'm
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looking forward to it, and I just want to remind you of this.
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The tickets for the events, you want to go through the River Center's website
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or the Columbus Ballet their website, and that's where you want to get your
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tickets. You don't want to go to any third party outlet. If the
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tickets are, like, you know, more than forty something dollars, like
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more than fifty bucks, you're being overcharged. If you see two hundred dollars
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tickets to the Columbus Georgia production of the Columbus Ballet, I can't speak to
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Mississippi. I can't speak to Ohio. I can speak to Columbus Georgia.
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If you see someone pricing the tickets in the two hundred dollars range, they're
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buying them and up selling them to you, and that's not good. You
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don't want to do that. You want to get them through the River Centers.
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Now, if we tell you later it's sold out, that's different.
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It's not sold out. Not at this point. We're still early in the
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game. So we got what a month and a half before the show,
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so there's time for you to get your tickets through the proper channels. Just
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go to the Columbus Ballet website or go through the River Center's box office and
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get your tickets for the events. Okay, Now, let's follow up on
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our story from Monday, because yesterday it was I wanted a little time for
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things to calm down a bit. And I want to follow up on Monday
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a bit because I was talking Monday about the news blog that decided to out
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the Smiths Station Mayor Bubba Copeland, and the story ultimately led to a tragic,
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horrific ending for someone who many in the community considered a friend at the
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very least folks in the Smiths Station area that saw him as hey or mayor,
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our friend in the community, our you know, a small business owner.
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He was a pastor at a church in Phoenix City, at First Baptist
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Church, so the guy had a wide reach into the community. And this
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particular news blog. I mean, I'm using news very loosely because of the
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nature of the story and if you haven't followed the story, this one particular
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blogger self purported reporter. I don't know. I don't know a whole lot
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about the guy, and I don't really want to kick him. I just
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say the things that I say here about him being a quote unquote reporter or
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it being a quote unquote news because I don't think anything about this article that
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was published by this guy and by this news outlet last week counts as news.
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I said that pretty clearly, I think on Monday. I hope it
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was a clear message on Monday. So the guy writes the article, I
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guess gleefully, like, here's my chance to make a name for myself,
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or here's my chance to out this guy that's probably not hurting anybody. I
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don't know. As we kind of go through all of this, if any
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more information is kind of going to come out, A lot of people suspect
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maybe there's more to the story, And I think if there was more to
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the story, a journalist would have found out if there was more to the
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story and published all of it at once. One thing about journalism and storytelling
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is if you're really going to scoop a story, you want to have the
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story. And if there was more to this whole thing, I think the
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responsible thing would have been to get all of the information together and present it
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to everyone and not just throw out this gossip hit piece, is what it
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felt like. But this guy made that decision. Someone at this outlet made
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that decision that this was something that needed to be published and reported, and
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that was a decision that they made, and it's a decision that they're going
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to all have to live with. So what I think is interesting about all
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of this is I've now reached out to people I know that know him.
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See, there was a point where I was reaching out to friends of Bubba
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and saying, hey, you want to check on him. He's having a
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rough time from everything I'm hearing. And you know, I've said this.
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I knew Bubba, especially in a mayoral capacity, you know, through interviews,
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through different media worthy events. That's how I knew him. I didn't
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really know him personally. I know a lot of people who did know him
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very well personally, so I reached out to them. I didn't want to
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reach out to him last week and give the impression that I was a reporter
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trying to get information from him. I didn't want to do that. I
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felt like he was going through a lot already, and by all accounts that
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was accurate. So I reached out to friends of his and said, you
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know, please check on him, and I will pray for him, because
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I know he's dealing with a lot right now. Now we're on the other
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side of his incredibly sad and tragic end overall of this, and now I
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find myself asking people that I know that know this reporter and I'm not going
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to say his name. One because if he was doing all of this to
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try to get his name said, he doesn't deserve it. And two the
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people that are exposing him now and saying who he is or doing it for
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very negative reasons as well. But I'm reaching out to those people that know
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him, and I just want to know is he all right. He's dealing
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with a lot. I mean a lot of people are commenting that he's got
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blood on his hands because of the article. I can't hold accountability. I
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understand that feeling, and I don't really know to some degree, I guess
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I agree with that by writing the article, but I don't want to pile
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on the guy. I think he's going to have to live with this for
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the rest of his life. I told someone yesterday that you know, even
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if you're writing through a neighborhood as safely as possible and doing all the right
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things, and you're just driving through the neighborhood and then you're paying complete attention,
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you're fully alert, and a kid gets in front of your car with
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a bike and you hit him and he dies, you still have to live
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with that. Even if you're doing everything that you're supposed to do, there's
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still that thing that's going to hang over you that, oh my gosh,
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I was involved in this. And then if you're driving through your neighborhood recklessly
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and not paying attention and then it happens you also you're going to feel more
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accountability, I assume, and then you're gonna have to also deal with it.
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So one of those two is playing out for this guy. And I
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think it's easy for people to say that he was the irresponsible one for not
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knowing what was going to happen. But even if he did everything right,
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even if he can justify every bit of his actions in his own mind,
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he's still at least the former you know, drove through the neighborhood, kid
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pulled out in front of him, and he ultimately calls the person to die,
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even if he can justify all of his actions. So he's dealing with
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that talking about a human being, and we're talking about trying to have compassion
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for human beings, which I feel like if we had done that a week
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ago, as a quote unquote reporter, that maybe this wouldn't have happened,
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because I don't think this was approached from a standpoint of compassion. But here's
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the reality, and this is what I want to get to. But I
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have been encouraging people to check on him. I think it's awful what he's
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dealing with in some capacity. If he's blowing it off and he doesn't care,
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that's different. But I would imagine this is weighing on him pretty heavily.
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So there's a few things that we have to realize here. First of
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all, Christians have a standard that they should live by. Okay, not
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all Christians do that, and not all Christians agree on what that standard is.
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There are some Christians I saw where the talk show host Rick and Bubba
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said that shame. I'm going to paraphrase it, but I think this is
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what they said about Bubba Copeland was that shame is the fastest way to repentance.
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Some version of that quote was said. I'm more focused in my Christian
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walk in love is the primary focus of all of it. I don't necessarily
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think it's my job to shame anyone. I don't think it's anyone's job to
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shame anyone. But there are some Christians who live that way and some who
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believe that. And I don't know if this reporter agrees with that sentiment,
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and that's why this was written. I don't know if this was someone who
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just sensed hypocrisy in some of the things that Bubba was doing. And I
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don't even know if I repeated it, but yeah, the whole idea was
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that he was at night, you know, dressing as a woman, pretending
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to be a transgender woman and later saying in interviews and things, or in
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this interview with this reporter, I'm not really transgender. This is just a
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character. I played a relief stress. So if this reporter and if Rick
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and Bubba, and if any other Christians out there believe that shame is the
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best way to get to some sort of repentance, then what they're doing by
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saying the things that they said or writing the things that they wrote in their
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mind, they've justified it. And I just want everybody to understand, as
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they're absolutely destroying Christianity, They're destroying the whole fate, they're destroying Christian churches
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in general because of these actions. Not all of us agree with that sentiment.
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Not all of us feel that it is our role to shame anyone.
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And I agree also that it's not my job to shame this reporter. It's
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not my job to shame Rick and Bubba. That's not where I haven't given
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Rick and Bubba thought in a very long time. They've not been relevant for
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me in any capacity. One time I was programming against them and they got
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knocked off the air very quickly. That's been the last time I really thought
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about Rick and Bubba. But and apparently they're still in the air. That's
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about as much as I know. But this reporter dealing with a lot,
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okay, having to deal with it, and I don't know if I don't
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know what the Rick and Bubba feeling is about their statement that was made on
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the radio as it pertains to everything that has now happened with Bubba Copeland.
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So there's that. Then there's the other part of this story that the blog,
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this site, I guess is a right wing news site. How they,
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I guess describe themselves. Some say right wing blog. And that's another
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thing. Not all folks that are right wing or conservative or Republican vote voters
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agree with this tactic, Okay, not all do, not all think it's
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anyone's business at all. Some truly believe that what people do in their private
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life is their private life. As a conservative, I believe that until it
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hurts someone else, it's really not anyone's business. And I've said this many
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times before about the LGBTQ plus community. Be you do whatever makes you happy
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until it hurts someone else or until you ask someone else to participate. And
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participate also includes hey, tell me that what I'm doing is just fine,
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compromise whatever it is that you believe, to tell me that it's okay,
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or support me in my decision to make a change by encouraging me to make
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a change. And I don't necessarily think that that's fair, right, That's
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not fair at all. It's not fair to ask someone else to support you
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in that. It's one thing to say, hey, I'll be your friend.
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I'm going to love you, I'm going to care for you whatever it
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is that you want to go do like that. My role here is to
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be your friend, but it's not necessarily to get involved in it. And
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that includes tattling on you to the public because I want to make a name
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for myself or whatever the reason is, I want to insert myself into this
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story in some way. So not all conservatives really believe that this was the
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right thing to do. The left has piled on the left has turned this
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into a even a voting thing, a registered to vote, a like.
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They've inserted themselves into this story by trashing it. First of all, Bubba
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Coplan was a Republican, a registered Republican. He wasn't one of theirs.
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Okay, just because at night he liked to dress like a woman and say
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he was a transgender woman or whatever, does it automatically make him a Democrat?
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Okay, that's another thing that we have to realize in all this.
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So the Left trying to claim this man as one of theirs, when that's
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just not what he was, that's not what his values were. Okay.
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So it's also turned into a situation now too where folks are doxing this reporter.
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They're telling everybody where he lives, showing pictures of his house online,
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saying that he needs to pay, he needs to be punished, They hope
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he's miserable, and all these things. So I hope this doesn't also continue
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on. This is not something that needs to continue to escalate. It doesn't.
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People need to show compassion for someone who may now realize that a mistake
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was made. I don't know. It's not my place to know. I
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know that at some point he made some changes I guess to social media.
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I know that at least one of his social media accounts, well, he
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stopped posting on it, first of all. On at least one. The
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other one he sort of locked it down. I don't know if that's as
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a preservation thing, or if it's just to avoid things. There are people
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encouraging others to email him and let them know what they think about him.
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I've seen pictures posted with his face and it says murderer. This is now
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piling on someone else. And I don't know if there are folks who truly
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believe that what he did was wrong to Bubba Copeland that now think it's okay
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if he himself gets bullied into doing something harmful to himself. And I don't
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know, I don't know that it would come to that. I don't know
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what his mental state is, but I don't know if they're trying to bully
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him into doing something. But that's not right. This isn't about politics.
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This isn't about right and left. It isn't about all Christians are bad,
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all Conservatives are bad. This isn't a honor Bubba by voting Democrat. None
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of those things are really part of the story, And sadly, the story
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will continue to go on because quite frankly, there's not a clear ending for
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this. If word comes out that the original information, whoever knew the dirt
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on Bubba in his personal life, decided to leak it, if there's some
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connection to that to another news story, that's big. That would have been
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what the story should have led with. If that's the case. If it's
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just someone that was close to him that decided that they wanted to get at
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him for some reason, then you know, that would again be a story
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worth looking into. Why did they do that, what's the purpose behind it?
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If it's someone that was close to him, that knew his private life,
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it just happened to bump into a quote unquote reporter at a blog and
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said, oh, I got a good, juicy story for you. At
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some pointjournalism Jane should kick in and say, I don't know that this is
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a real story, thanks for sharing, I'll file it. I'll look around
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and see if there's some real reason that this is being pushed forward. But
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in the meantime, it's not really a story. It's not really a news
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story. It's just gossip. Things, aren't. You're not going to bring
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Bubba Copeland back by forcing this guy to do something terrible to himself. You're
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not going to bring Bubba Copeland back by trying to make this guy's life miserable.
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You're not going to bring Bubba Copeland back by trying to get people to
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vote Democrat in his honor, or whatever the motivations are with this, I
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don't know. You're not going to honor Bubba Copeland by trashing the faith that
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he participated in, and that he went to church and talked to his church
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about what he'd been doing, and by all accounts, the church wasn't ready
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to run him off with pitchforks. He was there after the story broke,
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He went in and stood in front of his church and talk to him about
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what was reported. You're not going to honor Bubba Copeland by doing to another
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person what was done to him. You're not going to do that. She
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is not going to be the way to honor him, not at all.
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And the folks that are trying to cause something horrible to happen to this reporter,
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it's a sad state of where we are now, and it's just the
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harsh reality that this is. Everything becomes about politics, everything becomes about trashing
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of faith, Everything is about trashing a person or a community for how they
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acted or whatever it is that they're doing. And I just wish that we
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more West Carol Morning Show right after the break. All right, I know
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stores have Christmas music blaring in many of them. I've heard that already.
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I know some haven't quite made that switch over, but some already have done
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it. We've talked a little bit about why some stores do that, and
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it has everything to do with trying to get folks to feel nostalgic, to
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feel urgency of doing their shopping. But one of the things that I have
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not experienced here that apparently happens in some stores and in some places is putting
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scents into the stores pine, sugar, cookies, cinnamon, other things like
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that, trying to give them those baking smells. I guess I haven't experience
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at here. I'd like to. It seems like one of those things I
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think they do with Disney in some places where you're walking around, they're trying
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to get you hungry or get you thinking about whatever it is it has to
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do with the ride. I don't know. It is a interesting I'd be
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curious to know if we had anybody locally doing that here in the Chattooche Valley
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area. Speaking of Christmas, apparently decor experts are now saying that one Christmas
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tree is just not enough and that the joy should go beyond your living room.
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They said, we're seeing a number of people putting multiple trees up in
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various rooms around their home to make the Christmas spear it fill the entire house.
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This according to Gendary of a Balsam Hill, it's a Christmas tree company.
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Well, of course they're telling you to buy more Christmas trees. That's
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how they get you. She says. You can get the kids involved by
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each having a smaller Christmas tree and their personal designs in their room. Uh.
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And I guess their tastes as well, and says it could be their
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favorite reindeer, Christmas movie, their favorite superhero. That could get pricey you
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start buying Balsam Hill trees in that capacity. But we we do too.
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We have two of them. We had one that was the in and their
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you know artificial trees, and Jill and I got our first tree a long
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time ago when she first moved here, and that one was a nice tree
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for you know, our old place. And then we have a you know
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another tree that we've been using in the la last year, in the last
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couple of years, I guess we decided to put one of the older tree
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on our deck. We have a screened in porch for our deck, and
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we put one there and we enjoy that when we're out there. So we
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have two, but I don't see us in a situation where we have to
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put them all over the house. We do have two. I think that's
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just the use of one was going to be in storage otherwise. So I
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know we jumped ahead to Christmas. I was just getting in trouble from someone
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yesterday or the day before about whether or not we were skipping over the talk
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of Thanksgiving. But apparently Rachel Ray is giving some advice about Thanksgiving or friendsgiving
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if you're doing that. When it comes to taking a side dish to a
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meal, Rachel Ray says, stick to something that you know. She says,
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you should make something that you're very secure about, whether you're bringing a
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side dish, or you're roasting the turkey or goose or the pig. Or
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pheasant. Don't try to make something you've never made before with tons of ingredients.
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So that's good advice in general for any kind of pot luck or anything,
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any of those things. All right. The folks that do Giorno is
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made a combination of donuts and pizza. The Dijor Nut pizza donut mash up,
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they say, is a delicious donut stuffed with mozzarella cheese, topped with
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signature Dojorno sauce and more cheese and pizza toppings and things. I feel like
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I did this story already. I know I read it a little while ago,
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but I don't remember actually if I did it on the show or I
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just read it. But anyway, the Dojor nut will be available through x
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and of sweep Steaks that they're holding on National Donut Day, and that's not
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until June the fourth, so you got plenty of time. I didn't.
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I know, I didn't do this part of the story. If I did
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talk about it. It says you have to follow at Dijorno and then reply
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to the appropriate tweet with hashtag sweep Steaks to Winners will be chosen to receive
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a half dozen box of the Dijor nuts or whatever they're called. Yeah,
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dejoor nuts. All right, that'll do it for this Wednesday edition of the
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