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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people.
- 0:02Today we're going to be answering the question, why
- 0:05can't narcissist change? And this is coming from a self
- 0:09aware narcissist y'all that's been in therapy for seven years.
- 0:12If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammond.
- 0:14I'm a diagnosed narcissist and welcome to another episode of
- 0:16The Narcissist Code Mom.
- 0:35So welcome back, folks. Welcome back, welcome back,
- 0:37welcome back. Yes, that's the question of the
- 0:39hour, isn't it? Ordinary question of the hour.
- 0:41That's the question of the year, the question of the the
- 0:44Millennium, the question of the I was going to say century, but
- 0:49centuries are smaller than millennia, so I skipped over
- 0:52one. But that's the question, isn't,
- 0:54isn't it like why can't narcissists change like leads
- 0:59Like just tell us why. Damn it.
- 1:01It's so painful, so stressful dealing with this type of
- 1:04person, so stressful dealing with this type of relation.
- 1:06It's just so stressful. Like I want this person to know
- 1:09what's going on in their heads. I want them to go get help.
- 1:11I want them to be like you or better than you to just help me,
- 1:16please. Why can't they do it?
- 1:18And it sucks y'all. And it's like, say it's going to
- 1:21sound and let me go ahead and let me address the the
- 1:24narcissistic elephant in the room.
- 1:26It's going to sound weird and hypocritical, right?
- 1:30Coming from a diagnosed narcissist, right?
- 1:34That's in therapy, that's working on themselves that a lot
- 1:36of people would consider changed, right?
- 1:37It's going to sound hypocritical coming from me.
- 1:40But this is the only way I know how to spit This, this, this,
- 1:43this, this knowledge, this knowledge, this knowledge fire
- 1:46for you, right? Narcissist can a narcissist
- 1:51change? I you know, for me, I don't even
- 1:53think I've changed. I think that even I've proved it
- 1:57like mentally like I recently, like last year got took another
- 2:04psyche valve and I got re diagnosed with narcissistic
- 2:07personality disorder, general general anxiety disorder and
- 2:10some schizoid traits, right. But like I said, and this after
- 2:16six years, after 5 1/2 years of therapy.
- 2:18So I'm still a narcissist. So have I been able to alter my
- 2:22behaviours be due to therapy, due to a lot of self
- 2:25realization, due to just, I think also getting older as well
- 2:28and just having a more mature mind and being in a different
- 2:31space and time in my life right now.
- 2:33I feel like a lot of that stuff has contributed to me being who
- 2:36I am and where I am. Most narcissist won't do that
- 2:40because it's painful. Why can't they change?
- 2:43Because it's painful. It's easier.
- 2:46Like I'm just, I'll, I'll go over that one later.
- 2:49It's painful to try to change, right?
- 2:52It just is like because going to therapy, like admitting that you
- 2:57have a problem or admitting you have something that you really
- 3:00probably cannot get rid of, a personality disorder like this
- 3:04of this caliber narcissistic personality disorder that I
- 3:07haven't read any literature on a cured case.
- 3:10I've seen stuff on remission. I haven't heard cured or
- 3:13disappeared, right? So it's just, it's, it's hard
- 3:19to, it's just admit that it's painful to admit that something
- 3:22is wrong with you. And I know this for most people
- 3:24in the world, right? This is not just for
- 3:25narcissists. That's for most people in the
- 3:27world. But for narcissists, it's
- 3:29different because like you, you, you, you internally, mentally,
- 3:34you just don't want anything to be wrong with you.
- 3:36You already think, you already think everybody looks at you as
- 3:39a bad person. You already feel like a bad
- 3:40person internally, right? So you try so hard to make the
- 3:43world see you as a good person. You try to do all these good
- 3:46deeds. You try to, you try so hard to
- 3:48protect your reputation, right? But internally, there's always
- 3:51something that makes you feel like you're not doing enough.
- 3:54Internally, there's always something that makes you feel
- 3:56like you could be doing more, right?
- 3:57There's always something that just makes you feel like, hey,
- 3:59you're not doing enough. You can turn it up a notch.
- 4:01You can kick it up a notch, right?
- 4:04So using that, you never satisfied with your growth.
- 4:06You're never satisfied with how you go.
- 4:08You're never satisfied with what you are doing or what you have
- 4:10going on. So it's very tough in these
- 4:12situations to just make that final push to just admit that
- 4:16you have a problem. For me, there was one of the
- 4:18most cathartic experiences of my life was them I am a narcissist.
- 4:22When I first said those words to myself, when my wife had left me
- 4:26back in, this is 7 years ago in 2017, I say those words to
- 4:30myself. I put them in text messages to
- 4:32her. I say yes, I am a narcissist.
- 4:33This makes so much sense to me. For me, in that moment, I was
- 4:37looking for an answer to why I felt different, right?
- 4:39I've been looking for an answer my entire life as to why I felt
- 4:42different and narcissism provided me that answer.
- 4:44So it wasn't, it was difficult for me to admit that I was a
- 4:47narcissist because you can't get rid of it.
- 4:48But it also provided me that you are like, this is what you have
- 4:53going on. You can work on it.
- 4:55You can work on yourself. So for me, it's just like there,
- 4:59I you get, you see that you're a narcissist is right, but then
- 5:02you automatically see that there's no hope.
- 5:03You know what I mean? You're like, damn, I can't
- 5:05change it, but you can go to therapy.
- 5:08I'm gonna go to therapy. Why not let me try therapy?
- 5:10And I've been to therapy since October of 2017, working my
- 5:13therapist. Yesterday I had therapy
- 5:14yesterday, therapist told me she was proud of me.
- 5:16I was like, yay. I just like, see, my therapist
- 5:20said you. You ever imagine when you first
- 5:21sat in here back in October 2017 that your life would be worried?
- 5:25He is right now. Like you've been talking to
- 5:26Congress, you're writing the book, you're running support
- 5:29groups, you know, the biggest narcissism, one of the biggest
- 5:32narcissism creators in the world.
- 5:34But you ever think they would happen?
- 5:36Like, no, I would just want, I wanted to get better so my wife
- 5:40would leave so I can feel better by myself, so I could keep my
- 5:42family together. You know, I just wanted to be
- 5:45and all and all actually, I just actually wanted to be better
- 5:48than my father. I didn't want to be attached to
- 5:51him. I always wanted to be wanted to
- 5:53be better than him in every single way.
- 5:55So that's what I was doing. That's what I had to do to work
- 5:57on myself. But most narcissists will never
- 5:59get there because it's tough. It's painful to see that you're
- 6:03not perfect. It's painful to have this.
- 6:05It's kind of like having a scar that you can't get rid of.
- 6:09Like it's painful to have that you feel like you have scars in
- 6:11your face that you will never ever that everybody can see.
- 6:14So you're trying to cover them up, but it's an internal scar,
- 6:17you see, It's painful. So why can't they change?
- 6:19Because they don't want to admit that they have a problem, You
- 6:21know, why can't they change? It's easier not to let's be
- 6:24real, y'all. It's easier not to change my
- 6:27behaviors. It's easier to just be me and to
- 6:30keep doing the stuff that I've been doing.
- 6:32Why would I like and just be realistic, y'all?
- 6:34Why would I change the behavior that I get rewarded from?
- 6:39You know, why would I do that? Why would I change the behavior
- 6:42that that I get rewarded for? Why?
- 6:45Why would I do that? And then I know, I know people
- 6:48are like, well, Lee, you don't get rewarded like y'all people
- 6:50reward like narcissistic people get rewarded a lot of times for
- 6:54the behaviours that they exhibit.
- 6:55Like people don't leave them. People want to be around them.
- 6:58People, you know, do so much to just keep them in their life.
- 7:02You know, people forgive them. People get over the things that
- 7:05they've done to them. People do so much to keep this
- 7:10person around. Like people narcissism, you
- 7:12don't leave them. So many people don't leave
- 7:14narcissists. So it's just like I get rewarded
- 7:16for these behaviours. It's just like is, is, wow, it's
- 7:21easier to just beat me. It's easier to just keep doing
- 7:24the things that I've been doing. It's got like, this is the stuff
- 7:27I used to tell myself. It's gotten me this far, why
- 7:30would I change it up? That's the competing mindset
- 7:33that I even had when I was in therapy.
- 7:36These behaviors have served me so far in life, have got me this
- 7:39success, have got me a degree, have got me this good job.
- 7:43This I'm doing, I'm doing pretty decently even like years with
- 7:47it, years into my therapy journey, I was doing pretty
- 7:49decently financially and everything like that, right?
- 7:52So I've like these traits have gotten me this far.
- 7:54Why would I want to change stuff up?
- 7:55This served me for this long. It's just easier to be me.
- 7:59I don't have to put any effort into being me.
- 8:01It's easier to replace you if you don't leave me.
- 8:04It's easier for me to replace you a lot of times than it is to
- 8:07work on me and to admit that I have this problem going on.
- 8:11This should be real. So it's easier to remain me.
- 8:14It's easier to be me. It's easier to just stay me and
- 8:18to keep this same, like pretty much what I say for, for lack of
- 8:21a better word, it's easier for me to keep this same energy that
- 8:24I have right now as opposed to altering it in any way to serve
- 8:28anybody other than myself. It's easier like that.
- 8:32And like a lot. Why can't narcissists change
- 8:34some of them? Yeah, again, this is going to
- 8:36sound like me, repeat myself. Some of them just absolutely
- 8:40don't want to being a like I said, some of them don't want to
- 8:44change. Being a malignant narcissist
- 8:47gets some gets a lot of people a lot of attention.
- 8:49There's one of my one of my old best friends.
- 8:51He's absolutely a malignant overt narcissist and gets him a
- 8:55lot of attention. People like being around him in
- 8:58spurts. He's he's changed up friend
- 9:00groups a lot, but people like being around him when they first
- 9:03get around him because he's fun, he's loud, he's boisterous, he's
- 9:05cool as hell. He'll spend money in the club,
- 9:07he'll buy stuff in the club. He'll do that type of stuff,
- 9:10right? He likes doing it.
- 9:12It serves him. So it's just like, why would I
- 9:14want to change behaviors? Did I get rewarded for?
- 9:17I just don't want to change who I am.
- 9:20So why can't they change? So many people are just like,
- 9:22it's doom. It's doom and gloom when it
- 9:23comes to a lot of narcissists, right?
- 9:25It's like it's really is doom and gloom for a lot of
- 9:29narcissistic people and a lot of people don't want to hear that.
- 9:32And I tell people that I'm just like, look, it's not really a
- 9:35whole entire like doom and gloom type of dynamic, but this is how
- 9:39it goes. This is part of the dynamic that
- 9:42so many people face in a lot of these situations.
- 9:44It just, this is what happens to so many people.
- 9:48Like I would rather is, I would rather just stay me, stay with
- 9:51these behaviors than to change who I am because it's hard at
- 9:55y'all. It's hard work to change.
- 9:58I don't say that you'd be like to make people just seem like
- 10:01if, if a narcissist is watching this, it's not worth it.
- 10:04It's just it's hard work and so many people, you have to feel
- 10:08like there's a reward. There's something rewarding on
- 10:10the other side of this dynamic, right?
- 10:12On the other side of the hard work.
- 10:14What's the reward? Because a lot of narcissists
- 10:17don't see a reward for changing, right?
- 10:20Because again, sometimes if, if they just refuse to change, they
- 10:24refuse to go to therapy, if they refuse to work on themselves,
- 10:26the person who's the person who's with them doesn't leave
- 10:29them. So there's no even there's no
- 10:31incentive attached for them to try to change their behaviors at
- 10:33all. You see?
- 10:35So it works that way as well. So there's no incentive.
- 10:37Like there's like, OK, you are you going to leave me if I don't
- 10:40know, I we're a family. I want to keep the family
- 10:42together. Cool.
- 10:43That's it. That's all they needed.
- 10:45That's all they needed to hear. No, so you have to empower
- 10:50yourself in a lot of these situations to be able to just
- 10:53make these moves. Y'all, that's all.
- 10:54Like, I appreciate so many of you.
- 10:55I appreciate so much of what people have going on.
- 10:58I appreciate everything that y'all doing, everything that
- 11:00y'all saying, because at the end of the day, it does empower you.
- 11:03But I was just like, when you're dealing with narcissists, right?
- 11:07A lot of them don't want to change.
- 11:10Yeah, they they need support. They don't feel like people are
- 11:12going to support them. They feel like if I change who I
- 11:15am, people are going to exit out of my life.
- 11:17You know, people are going to leave out of my life.
- 11:19They are afraid to lose what they've established.
- 11:21They're afraid to lose the established life that they have.
- 11:23They're afraid to lose their friends.
- 11:24They're afraid to lose their family.
- 11:25That's one of those are my biggest fears.
- 11:27Before I started working on altering my behaviours, right?
- 11:31People going to, people going to shun me.
- 11:32But you come to realize, and This is why I realized right
- 11:34here is that I don't lose people, that I don't really lose
- 11:38people that are going to be there for me anyway.
- 11:40You know, if people on my healing journey as I'm growing
- 11:43and healing, if you don't want to be around me, that's fine.
- 11:45You don't. You don't have to be here.
- 11:48I'm working on myself for me, right?
- 11:50I work on me. For me.
- 11:52Yes. Everybody around me benefits
- 11:55from it because I'm a better person for it.
- 11:57But I work on myself. It makes me feel better.
- 11:58Y'all, if you go to therapy, my therapist said I'm proud of you.
- 12:02Damn, That's yeah, that's great. I love that.
- 12:08That's reward. The reward is the work.
- 12:11It really is, y'all. So I just feel like narcissists
- 12:14can't change because the most of them don't want to put in the
- 12:17work. They don't want to put in the
- 12:19effort. You have to want to put in the
- 12:21work. You have to want to put in the
- 12:22effort. I promise you it's it's
- 12:24rewarding as hell to do it. If you're a narcissist that's
- 12:28watching it, it's so rewarding to do it.
- 12:30Like yes, it's scary. Yes, it can be painful.
- 12:32Yes, you're going to have some setbacks here and there, but
- 12:35it's so rewarding. I speak and I, I preach it.
- 12:39Ask Ben Taylor reward. He's been rewarded for changing
- 12:41his behaviours. You see what I'm saying?
- 12:43Leon Walker being rewarded for changing his behaviours.
- 12:47Like those are two main, the two main software narcissist that I,
- 12:49I, I deal with. But yeah, they've been rewarded
- 12:53for changing their behaviours. They just have, there's a reward
- 12:56for it. And I, I, I'm like I say about I
- 12:59have a lot of stuff in the works right now, but people trust you
- 13:02more. People want to be around you.
- 13:05So the reason most artists can't change because they don't want
- 13:08to put the work in. They're scared.
- 13:10They just, they're so set in their ways.
- 13:11They think everybody else is out, everybody else is wrong,
- 13:14everybody else is wrong and I'm right.
- 13:16That type of person right there. I'm not telling you to give up
- 13:18on them, but a lot of times you have to accept them for who they
- 13:20are in this space because they're telling you right now
- 13:23I'm not changing who I am. I'm not changing my behaviors.
- 13:25I'm not working on myself really.
- 13:29I don't want to lose my family. Then you have to learn how to
- 13:31outwork around the person that you're dealing with, right?
- 13:34You don't have to learn how to work around them.
- 13:37Anyways, y'all, I know this video went on longer.
- 13:39I just had to get this out of my system.
- 13:40I had wrote it down. I was like, let me get this
- 13:41video out of my system. But anyways, y'all, I still do
- 13:43my zoom coaching my Zoom one O ones, like my zoom one O ones.
- 13:47I've been doing coaching. I they're open to narcissists as
- 13:49well. So if you're a narcissist
- 13:50watching this or a person you think you might be dealing with
- 13:52dealing with narcissism, you're my my zoom coaching my Zoom one
- 13:56O ones are available. I've talked to, I've probably
- 13:59talked to a couple 100 narcissists over the last few
- 14:01years, like doing one O ones. It's a bit amazing, but my
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