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KANSAS CITY CHIEFS HOMICIDE BOMBSHELL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the Kansas City Chiefs Homicide Bombshell.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. In the last hours of Bombshell. Two arrested.
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Speaker 1: Two arrested over the deaths of three Kansas City Chiefs
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Speaker 1: fans who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend
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Speaker 1: backyard and on his porch, and he didn't notice a
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Speaker 1: thing for two days. A guy is dead, your friend
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Speaker 1: is dead in a lounge chair on your porch, and
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Speaker 1: you go two days ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social
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Speaker 1: media requests from family and friends. You don't see any
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Speaker 1: of that. You show up at the front door and
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Speaker 1: you're underwear with the glass of water and go hah.
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Speaker 1: Two people arrested listen.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution
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Speaker 2: of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter.
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Speaker 1: That from our friends at k NBC nine News joining
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Speaker 1: me in All Star panel. But first I want to
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Speaker 1: go to a very special guest joining us. It's Jonathan Price,
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Speaker 1: the brother of one of those three victims, Ricky Johnson. Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Thank you for having
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Speaker 1: me as Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would
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Speaker 1: ever come. You said, from the get go, something is wrong,
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Speaker 1: something is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and
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Speaker 1: you were right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just said from the very beginning, it didn't
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Speaker 3: make sense, and it still doesn't make sense that they
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Speaker 3: were able to rule out foul play from day one,
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Speaker 3: and then you know, with these charges. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: don't know the legal definition of foul play, but it
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Speaker 3: definitely seems like they now believe that there was foul play.
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Speaker 3: So just keeping keeping us in the dark for this long,
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Speaker 3: it is very troubling, but there is still a sense
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Speaker 3: of relief among all of us that this is hopefully
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Speaker 3: coming to a conclusion.
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Speaker 1: You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And
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Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl when the Chiefs were playing, I
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Speaker 1: thought about you and your family and I wondered what's
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Speaker 1: going through their minds tonight as everybody's celebrating and partying,
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Speaker 1: and you still did not have answers in your brother's death.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Rickey daily,
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Speaker 3: and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are
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Speaker 3: playing or KU's playing, you know, there's you know, he
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Speaker 3: cared much about his family and about his sports, and
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Speaker 3: we we shared that our entire lives and uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: those those memories will always live on. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: like I said before, it's there. There is a sense
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Speaker 3: of relief that, you know, something that's coming from all
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Speaker 3: of this.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was wondering, Jonathan, when everybody was celebrating and
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Speaker 1: there was the big lead up to the Chiefs playing
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and everybody's what's Taylor Swift gonna wear?
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Speaker 1: And are they going to get engaged? Is she pregnant?
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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking what about
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Speaker 1: my brother? What about my brother? Because I was thinking
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Speaker 1: that the whole way through the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, every every day we've been saying this,
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Speaker 3: and uh, you know it kind of went a radio
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Speaker 3: asilent for a very long time. And then you know,
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Speaker 3: we were still hearing that there was no foul play.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's there's just too much still out there
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Speaker 3: and it's all about what's going to come out of trial.
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Speaker 3: But you know there's still lots of questions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely going to be
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Speaker 1: a trial. You guys kept in the dark for so long,
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Speaker 1: which must have been agonizing, agonizing as you wanted so
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Speaker 1: badly for your brother to get justice, and to think
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Speaker 1: that for all that time, he sat in his house,
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Speaker 1: throwing back the booze, hanging around in his underwear. And
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Speaker 1: this guy is no idiot. He's a scientist, for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: Ignoring the dead body in anounced heir on the porch,
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Speaker 1: ignoring his friend's cars parked directly in front of his house.
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Speaker 1: How can you ignore that? How can you not hear
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Speaker 1: the phone for two days, not notice that you were
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Speaker 1: being barraged in social media and texts and emails, acting
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Speaker 1: like nothing happened, and then to pack up and leave town.
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Speaker 1: H Well, this is how the whole thing started.
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Speaker 4: January seventh is a football day for the Kansas City Chiefs,
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Speaker 4: as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers, So
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Speaker 4: thirty eight year old Jordan Willis invites a couple of
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Speaker 4: buddies to come to his house and watch the game.
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Speaker 4: David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's
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Speaker 4: house just in time for the three twenty five kickoff.
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Speaker 4: They enjoy the game as the Chiefs beat the Chargers
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Speaker 4: thirteen to twelve, and Willis makes plans for them to
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Speaker 4: get tickets to the next home game.
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Speaker 1: So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together.
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Speaker 1: Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the
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Speaker 1: guys off and crashes on the couch.
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Speaker 4: On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not
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Speaker 4: leave his home at all. He would normally have to
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Speaker 4: take his dogs Sadie and Daisy outside to do their business,
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Speaker 4: but they're all staying at his dad's place.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. He had described his dogs as
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Speaker 1: the quote loves of his life. How did they end
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Speaker 1: up somewhere else? Okay, that's just a tangential question. But
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Speaker 1: right there, something is way wrong. Joining me. Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there, Dave, Jordan Willison. This
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Speaker 1: is on a Sunday, the scientist. He waves away the
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Speaker 1: friends and claims he crashes on the sofa for what
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Speaker 1: the next two or three days? I mean, if you
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Speaker 1: take it from Sunday until finally the police were at
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Speaker 1: the front door. After the girlfriend breaks in the window
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Speaker 1: to find the dead body and starts screaming, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's his story, Dave, seriously.
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Speaker 5: And he's sticking to it.
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Speaker 6: Nancy.
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Speaker 5: He has always claimed that he crashed out, doesn't know
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Speaker 5: what the guys did. He was sound asleep for the
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Speaker 5: next seventy two hours, and he missed all the messages.
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Speaker 5: He didn't get any pet he didn't get any text messages,
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Speaker 5: phone calls because that phone was ringing off the hook.
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Speaker 5: All those guys, family and friends were reaching out to
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Speaker 5: him because they were always in contact. But Jordan Willis
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Speaker 5: claims he slept through the entire thing for three days
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Speaker 5: and he only got up when they, you know, basically
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Speaker 5: broke into his house and John there were dead guys
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Speaker 5: in the backyard.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother
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Speaker 1: who passed away. You know, when I think about what
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Speaker 1: he went through, it was so cold out there. Do
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Speaker 1: you let yourself? I mean, I try not to think
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Speaker 1: about what my fiance went through when he was murdered.
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Speaker 1: He was shot five times in the face, the neck,
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Speaker 1: the head, and I try not to think about it
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Speaker 1: because it will mess me up so badly and I
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Speaker 1: have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think
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Speaker 1: about what Ricky went through? While their friend was inside
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Speaker 1: in his underwear, passed out.
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Speaker 3: I think about that all the time, you know, especially
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Speaker 3: with these these three gentlemen, you know, being inseparable for
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Speaker 3: a very very long time, and for all three of
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Speaker 3: them to happen at the exact same time, and some
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Speaker 3: of them were going through in the final moments of
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Speaker 3: seeing maybe one of their friends go down first at all.
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Speaker 3: So many questions still on how that would have happened.
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Speaker 1: And I pray that all the facts, not just some
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Speaker 1: of the facts, but that all the facts will come
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Speaker 1: out and we will know is no idiot three days
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Speaker 1: Sunday Monday Tuesy, and I never knew my friend. My
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Speaker 1: friend was dead on the front on the back porch,
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Speaker 1: and my other friends were dead lying in my yard.
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Speaker 1: How can he? How can he say that? Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: And all the phone calls and all the texts and
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Speaker 1: all the emails and all the social media. He said
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Speaker 1: he was wearing noise canceling headphones for three days.
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Speaker 7: Really, he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones, and
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Speaker 7: he was in his house. He didn't notice the car
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Speaker 7: in front, and he didn't notice three of his friends.
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Speaker 7: He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's
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Speaker 7: go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs
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Speaker 7: had won. Acted like he was completely shut off from
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Speaker 7: the whole world and noise canceling headphones. Sure maybe right,
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Speaker 7: You maybe can't hear a little thing in the next room,
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Speaker 7: but you're going to hear people beating on your door
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Speaker 7: and you're going to see your phone blowing up for
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Speaker 7: two days.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand something, Dave Mac. How many days
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Speaker 1: passed before the girlfriend the fiance has to come and
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Speaker 1: literally break in. When did that happen? Just give me
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Speaker 1: a number.
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Speaker 6: Two days?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 5: Two days?
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Speaker 8: What day was on?
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Speaker 5: The game was on Tuesday, games on Saturday, on Sunday
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Speaker 5: the seventh, and Tuesday the ninth is the day police
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Speaker 5: are at the door.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. They didn't teach me math in
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Speaker 1: law school. But seven eight nine, that's three days. Seven
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Speaker 1: is Sunday, the day of the game, which is in
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Speaker 1: the early afternoon, all night, all day Monday until finally Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: when the fiance is beside herself, she can't find her
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Speaker 1: fiance and goes looking for him. Listen.
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Speaker 9: On January eighth, friends and family are concerned. They were
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Speaker 9: headed to Jordan Willis house to watch the game, but
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Speaker 9: now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying
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Speaker 9: to messages on social media or by phone.
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Speaker 10: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton mckinee's
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Speaker 10: fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
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Speaker 10: in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
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Speaker 10: or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and
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Speaker 10: screams Willis's name. She walks through the house. Then she
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Speaker 10: looks on the back porch and sees a body.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me. This
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Speaker 1: is Ricky's brother, beloved brother. I might ad they grew
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Speaker 1: up together and they would argue about who's going to
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Speaker 1: watch Power Rangers and who's gonna watch ESPN. Very very
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Speaker 1: loving relationship, their whole lives. In my mind, that's three days.
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Speaker 1: You got the Chiefs game early afternoon Sunday there together
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Speaker 1: in Sunday night, all day Monday, Monday night, and then
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Speaker 1: Tuesday nine to fifty one, that's nearly ten o'clock at night,
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Speaker 1: Clayton's fiance comes hysterical trying to find him, has to
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Speaker 1: break in and seize a dead body. Is my timing correct, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: I mean it appears to be correct.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not very good at math either, but
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Speaker 3: you know, there's there's a question in my mind that
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Speaker 3: there's no possible way you can sleep that long and
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Speaker 3: just not know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: I agree, Jonathan, no way. What was he doing in
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Speaker 1: the joining me is a veteran defense attorney has handled
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Speaker 1: a number of high profile cases. Derek Smith is joining
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Speaker 1: me out of Ohio. He's at d W Smith Legal
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Speaker 1: dot com. Derek, really the defense I slept through the
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Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, for those of you who just
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Speaker 1: joining us, finally movement a bombshell arrest of two people
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Speaker 1: in connection with the deaths of three Kansas City chiefs,
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Speaker 1: fans who were frozen to death and their buddy the
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Speaker 1: scientist backyard Derek Smith. Can he really look at a
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Speaker 1: jury and say, I slept for three days with noise
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Speaker 1: canceling headsets on, I knew nothing.
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Speaker 3: Yes and no, and this is a terrible situation.
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Speaker 11: Is best friend, some of his frenzies with his whole
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Speaker 11: entire life, like they said, they were very close utter
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Speaker 11: uttershock and disbelief and just manic depression.
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Speaker 3: Will put somebody.
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Speaker 11: Down looking out your window and seeing your friends in
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Speaker 11: the condition they were in. That's enough right there to
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Speaker 11: send a person into deep shock, disbelief and just pass
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Speaker 11: right back out.
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Speaker 3: Does not want to be.
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Speaker 1: That's a good one. So he saw the bodies and
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Speaker 1: then passed back out, you know. To doctor Hidie Green
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Speaker 1: joining me, clinical psychologist, trauma specialist, author of The Path
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Speaker 1: to Self Love and World Domination, Doctor Heidiegreen dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Heidie So, now we're getting a spin on that
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Speaker 1: and no telling what it's going to morph into by
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Speaker 1: the time this goes to trial. So Jonathan Price braced yourself.
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Speaker 1: So Derek Smith is spinning it out, you know, like
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Speaker 1: Rumpel Stileskin would take that nasty hay out of the
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Speaker 1: barn and spin it into gold. He is now hypothesizing
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Speaker 1: that the defendant, one of the two arrested in the
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Speaker 1: desks of three people that were left to freeze out
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Speaker 1: in the yard one on his porch, is that he
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Speaker 1: came to from his deep sleep. You know, I'll throw
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Speaker 1: in sleeping beauty there. He came to, saw the dead
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Speaker 1: body of his friend and then passed out, Doctor Heidie Green.
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Speaker 1: Psychologically speaking, that seems very unlikely to me.
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Speaker 8: So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for
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Speaker 8: seventy two hours as a result of a significant trauma.
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Speaker 8: And we can say if your friends died accidentally, if
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Speaker 8: that's what we're going with, and you saw them in
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Speaker 8: your home, it's obviously possible that you would have a
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Speaker 8: significant trauma response, and that trauma response could include a
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Speaker 8: freeze response. I could see somebody maybe being in their
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Speaker 8: house terrified to answer the throne, terrified to go and
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Speaker 8: look at the bodies, wanting to essentially just pretend like
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Speaker 8: nothing's going on. But to actually be unconscious for seventy
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Speaker 8: two hours, that seems far less likely as a trauma.
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Speaker 1: Resport crime stores with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 9: Screaming, Clayton mcguinea's fiance calls police. Officers arrived to find
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Speaker 9: Willis in his underwear with an empty glass of wine
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Speaker 9: in hand. According to the victims' families, the other two
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Speaker 9: bodies were then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis tells
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Speaker 9: police he has no idea what happened. John Piserno, an
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Speaker 9: attorney representing Willis, said his client had no idea his
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Speaker 9: friends were dead until police knocked on his door. Hayley
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Speaker 9: Lettier wrote, My husband banged on his door for twenty minutes.
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Speaker 9: My friend banged on his door and then busted a
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Speaker 9: window and yelled and announced her presence while she's inside
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Speaker 9: and steal nothing from him. Then the cops come ten
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Speaker 9: minutes later, and he comes out nonchalant in his boxers
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Speaker 9: with an empty wine glass in hand. Nothing is adding up.
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Speaker 9: Dave Clay and Ricky need and deserve justice.
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Speaker 1: Yes they do. And in the last hours a bombshell,
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Speaker 1: two people arrested in the deaths of three Kansas City
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Speaker 1: Chiefs fans found apparently frozen on his porch and backyard.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky's brother, Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: Your brother is always described as a Kansas City Chief fan.
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Speaker 1: That's really not doing him justice. He was so much more.
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Speaker 3: Tell me well, Ricky was very humble. He loved everybody
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Speaker 3: he ever interacted with. He always saw the good and people.
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Speaker 3: He helped out anybody in need anytime, no matter if
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Speaker 3: at one time they were seen as enemies or you know,
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Speaker 3: just not friends in general. But he was just such
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Speaker 3: a kind person, loving father, brother, son, cousin. You know,
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Speaker 3: he was truly cherished by our entire family.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about your family.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean we kind of we grew up, you know,
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Speaker 3: separated at some points, but we always came together for
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Speaker 3: family events.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: We were always there at Christmas times, holding our own
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Speaker 3: different Christmases to make sure that all of our schedules
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Speaker 3: matched up to where we can all see each other.
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Speaker 3: And when I was in the military, anytime I came home,
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Speaker 3: Ricky and my other brother Rusty, they always made it
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Speaker 3: a point and my sister Lisa, they always all made
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Speaker 3: it a point to come home all to be together
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Speaker 3: every time. So we you know, we cherished each other.
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Speaker 3: And there's very fond memories of of Ricky growing up
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Speaker 3: and everything he was to all of us.
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Speaker 1: When you say the memories you had growing up memories.
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Speaker 3: Well, my love for football, I love for all sports
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Speaker 3: came from Ricky.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: Seeing my my two oldest brothers, you know, throwing the
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Speaker 3: football farther that I could have made when I was
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Speaker 3: a small child, I just I looked up to them.
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Speaker 3: That's a picture of us right there with the X
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Speaker 3: factor at the Kansas City game. You know, we went
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Speaker 3: to the very first game that Pastion Mahomes was playing
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Speaker 3: in the preseason, and uh, we you know, you met
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Speaker 3: my entire family, and you know, even though we were
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Speaker 3: states away, you know, we always we always talked about
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Speaker 3: the sports of Kansas City and you know, everything that
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Speaker 3: we were accomplishing. Finally, after so many years of being
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Speaker 3: you know, an up and down team. You know, we
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Speaker 3: we shared a lot of memories together and uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: I I just I love them.
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Speaker 1: We are learning more about the death of the so
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Speaker 1: called Three Chiefs fans.
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Speaker 12: As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing
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Speaker 12: to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside,
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Speaker 12: the families of the victims begin to speak out and
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Speaker 12: ask questions. The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what
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Speaker 12: happened next? Was why didn't you answer calls, text messages
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Speaker 12: and social media messages from family and friends of the
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Speaker 12: three men.
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Speaker 4: The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next
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Speaker 4: two days in his home, not thinking anything of the
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Speaker 4: fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only
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Speaker 4: learned they died when the fiance of one of the
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Speaker 4: men broke into the house on January ninth in the
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Speaker 4: hopes of finding him.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Price. Where were the victims cars parked in relation
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Speaker 1: to the friends home.
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Speaker 3: Well, I guess if you're based on what I've heard,
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Speaker 3: if you look out the front door, they were just
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Speaker 3: off to the right, and I guess there was potentially
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Speaker 3: two out of the three cars, because I think someone
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Speaker 3: might have car pooled. But either way, my brother drove
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Speaker 3: an F one fifty, so it was you know, se
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Speaker 3: my large truck right there in the front. There's no
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Speaker 3: way to miss it.
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Speaker 1: So Mary Hudgson joining me, former la now chief investigator
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Speaker 1: for Barry and Associates, Investigative Services in Kansas and Missouri. Barry,
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Speaker 1: let me understand. So this guy, the so called friend,
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Speaker 1: could find a wine glass and fill it up with wine,
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Speaker 1: and find his noise canceling headphones. He could find those,
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Speaker 1: he could see those, but he couldn't see his dead
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Speaker 1: friend on the porch and in the yard, or their
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Speaker 1: vehicles part in front of his house. Man see this.
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Speaker 13: Story, you know, his his excuses for how everything happened.
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Speaker 13: It just makes no sense at all. You know, I've
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Speaker 13: been thinking about this and one of the things that
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Speaker 13: I thought about. You know, the guy came to the
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Speaker 13: door in his underwear, and he said that he had
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Speaker 13: been asleep for seventy two hours.
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Speaker 3: We knew that he'd been.
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Speaker 13: Drinking a lot apparently, so if he slept for solid
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Speaker 13: three hours, don't you think his body would have evacuated
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Speaker 13: while he was asleep for three solid days. If he
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Speaker 13: never got up, he would have wet his south. Did
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Speaker 13: he come to the door with soiled underwear or did
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Speaker 13: he look like he urinated on his stuff? You know
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Speaker 13: when you arrested drunk on the street most of the
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Speaker 13: time and they're awake, theyp all over theirself. This guy
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Speaker 13: did look a year and nat dona set because if
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Speaker 13: he didn't, that kind of shoots that story right in
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Speaker 13: behind the end.
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Speaker 1: He asked me, Yeah, I mean he had to get
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Speaker 1: up and go to the bathroom. Doctor Kendall Crown's joining me,
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Speaker 1: and he's here for other reasons, But since we're on
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Speaker 1: this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me. Chief Medical Examiner
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Speaker 1: Crown's is that true what Barry just told us? I mean,
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Speaker 1: how could he go seventy two hours drinking. Let me
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Speaker 1: add that in and not getting up and finding his
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Speaker 1: way to the bathroom.
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Speaker 14: Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could
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Speaker 14: sleep for three days after consuming that much alcohol and
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Speaker 14: also eating that Your body wouldn't urinate on itself for defecates.
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Speaker 14: So it's impossible to believe that he spent that entire
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Speaker 14: time asleep and not getting up and go at least
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Speaker 14: going to the bathroom.
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Speaker 10: Jordan Willis's attorney, John Pacerno, refuses to answer questions about
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Speaker 10: whether the men were using drugs. Paserno says there was
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Speaker 10: a fifth man in the home on the night of
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Speaker 10: January seventh. Willis says the man is a buddy who
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Speaker 10: left earlier than the.
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Speaker 1: Other three men.
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Speaker 4: As the investigation heated up, Jordan Willis moved out of
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Speaker 4: the home and checked into rehab. A forensic data extraction
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Speaker 4: found text messages on Harrington's phone between Willis, Mcgheini, Johnson,
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Speaker 4: and others that proved Carson was the person who supplied
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Speaker 4: the group with cocaine, DNA evidence matsh Willis identifying him
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Speaker 4: as a major contributor, and DNA evidence from the second
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Speaker 4: bag match, Carson confirming his role as the drugs of.
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Speaker 1: Liar, packs up and goes to rehab. So to Jonathan Price,
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Speaker 1: when did you learn that the so called best friend
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Speaker 1: of your brother packs up, clears out the house, takes
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Speaker 1: his dog, goes to rehab.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the only time that we found out was
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Speaker 3: whenever it was reported in the news, which is kind
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Speaker 3: of the unfortunate part of all this. But if you
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Speaker 3: have the mental capacity to know you have a problem
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Speaker 3: after the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you know,
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Speaker 3: you know more about what happened that night. And I
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Speaker 3: don't know if you shared that or not with the authorities,
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Speaker 3: but the fact that he was not detained you after
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Speaker 3: that night or the past fourteen months doesn't really make
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Speaker 3: any sense to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. To Derek Smith, why is that the
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Speaker 1: go to with your clients and all the stars, it's
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Speaker 1: only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize
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Speaker 1: they have a problem and they hide out in rehab.
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Speaker 11: Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really
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Speaker 11: change a lifestyle or change a mindset or even in
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Speaker 11: these cases, a serious addiction.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's akin to.
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Speaker 11: Being in a certain way of life, certain way of
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Speaker 11: doing things, everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and
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Speaker 11: then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets involved,
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Speaker 11: and you have to make a drastic change, And that's,
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Speaker 11: unfortunately just how it is.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us,
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Speaker 1: Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County
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Speaker 1: prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know,
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Speaker 1: Eric number one, thank you for being with us, But
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Speaker 1: I know what you can say is limited, having been
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Speaker 1: a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. The family questioned this
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Speaker 1: from the get go, and I know the prosecutors get
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Speaker 1: the case once LA law enforcement finishes their investigation. But
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, having dealt with so many crime victims,
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Speaker 1: how agonizing this has been for the family to be
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Speaker 1: waiving the banner. This isn't right, this isn't normal. This
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Speaker 1: guy's not innocent. He won't say a word to us
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Speaker 1: about what happened. And this is the alleged best friend
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Speaker 1: they've been waiting all this time. Now, Eric, don't get
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Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm glad we finally have bombshell arrests in
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Speaker 1: the desks of the three Kansas City Chase fans. But
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Speaker 1: what took so long? Please explain it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, You're absolutely right, Nancy, this was a long time coming.
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Speaker 6: And our hearts absolutely go out to these family members.
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Speaker 6: I met with them shortly after these deaths, and it's
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Speaker 6: just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder of the
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Speaker 6: dangers of street drugs, and these cases are tough to
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Speaker 6: put together. Cracking down who's responsible for providing these drugs
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Speaker 6: is no easy task. But I can't tell you how
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Speaker 6: proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City Police Department
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Speaker 6: and prosecutors in my office, who from day one said
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Speaker 6: that they weren't going to rest until we exhausted every
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Speaker 6: possible resource to bring the people we believe responsible for
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Speaker 6: these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the first step
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Speaker 6: in that. As you know, these men are presumed innocent
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Speaker 6: and lesson until proven guilty, but we've charged them what
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Speaker 6: we think happened, which was providing cocaine and fentanyl and
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Speaker 6: causing the deaths of these three men.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor Eric Xand had to say.
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Speaker 2: A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcghini,
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Speaker 2: mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and
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Speaker 2: cocaine combined toxicity.
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Speaker 1: Now from our forensic KMBC nine News. So, Eric, your assertion,
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Speaker 1: what you're going to prove, I think in trial is
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Speaker 1: that the casual use of a little cocaine, although family
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Speaker 1: says that at least one of the victims had never
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Speaker 1: used cocaine before, but the casual use of cocaine turned
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Speaker 1: deadly because it was cut with Yeah.
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Speaker 6: In this case, what we alleged is that there were
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Speaker 6: two baggies found at the scene. One of those baggies
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Speaker 6: contained cocaine, the other baggie we alleged contained sentinel. Them
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Speaker 6: found that it was a combination of those two drugs
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Speaker 6: that caused these men's deaths. And so we've charged both
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Speaker 6: of the men, one of them who we believe provided
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Speaker 6: the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold the fentanyl
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Speaker 6: that caused these deaths, And we allege, because we charged
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Speaker 6: them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused the deaths of
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Speaker 6: these three men.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, listen to what Jonathan Price
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Speaker 1: had to say from.
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Speaker 3: The very beginning.
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Speaker 15: He said that before the fifth person came out. He
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Speaker 15: said that Jordan was there sporadically throughout the day and
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Speaker 15: then whenever, and then he also did not mention a
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Speaker 15: fifth person. But once the fifth person came out, then
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Speaker 15: he changed it to you, saying that there was a
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Speaker 15: fifth person and that he was asleep the entire time.
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Speaker 15: So those were two very specific details that were specific
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Speaker 15: in the opening statement but then changed over time.
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Speaker 1: So Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter, the
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Speaker 1: best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story.
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Speaker 1: He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and
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Speaker 1: his three buddies all dead, frozen dead in the backyard,
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Speaker 1: and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on
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Speaker 1: his back porch. There's a mystery guy, a fifth person.
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Speaker 1: Elect says he changed his story.
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Speaker 7: Why because the fifth person was a person that provided
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Speaker 7: the drugs. According to police, this is somebody who they
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Speaker 7: have all known for quite a while that Jordan has known,
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Speaker 7: and he was contacted and this man brought the drugs.
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Speaker 7: This so there's cocaine. Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine.
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Speaker 7: Irey Carson's DNA is on the bag of fentanyl and
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Speaker 7: that is the toxic combination that killed these men. So
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Speaker 7: he was he had come over and brought them the cocaine.
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Speaker 7: And the way that the police found this out wasn't
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Speaker 7: through Jordan Willis. He never mentioned any of these details.
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Speaker 7: But David Harrington's phone is the one phone that they
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Speaker 7: were able to extract evidence from, and they saw on
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Speaker 7: there there were group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis
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Speaker 7: was the one that would always provide it for them.
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Speaker 7: These other guys didn't have enough. Cocain's expensive, it's not
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Speaker 7: a cheap drug. And then you topped that off of
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Speaker 7: the feninyl and he was the one that did it.
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Speaker 7: So there were group chat text messages that showed that
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Speaker 7: these were how they got the drugs.
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Speaker 1: To Eric Xann joining me right now. Platt's county prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: who is charged with last sewing all this evidence and
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Speaker 1: presenting it to a jury. Did he really think we
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Speaker 1: wouldn't find out about the fifth guy, the mystery man,
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Speaker 1: and all of his statements at the get go that
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Speaker 1: was never mentioned. Now we know why he was the
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Speaker 1: dope dealer.
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Speaker 6: Well, and Nancy, I can't I can't comment on exactly
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Speaker 6: what either of these defendants thought or said. But what
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Speaker 6: I can tell you is that we allege that mister
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Speaker 6: Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Sentinel to these men,
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Speaker 6: and we alleged that resulted in the deaths of these
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Speaker 6: three great people who were boyfriends, husbands, fathers, sons of
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Speaker 6: people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And here's what
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Speaker 6: folks have to understand. If you deal drugs and somebody
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Speaker 6: dies as a result, we will do everything we can
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Speaker 6: to make sure that you're held accountable for the deaths
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Speaker 6: of those people. That's exactly what we're trying to do.
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Speaker 8: In this case.
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Speaker 1: Crime with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 3: These three men were inseparable.
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Speaker 15: You look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's
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Speaker 15: posted that it's not of.
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Speaker 3: Their family, it's of these men.
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Speaker 15: And if just one of them, even two of them
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Speaker 15: passed out at the same time, which is already impossible,
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Speaker 15: you know, the other man would have absolutely brought them
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Speaker 15: inside and called for help something.
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Speaker 3: So that's just insane.
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Speaker 1: This is what Platte County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us.
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Speaker 2: He saw a large plate of cocaine allegedly supplied by
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Speaker 2: mister Willis that everyone was using.
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Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, the defendant provided it, the friend, the friend,
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Speaker 1: the scientist, the HIV researcher, Jordan Willis, H thirty nine.
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Speaker 1: The best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced
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Speaker 1: with Sentinel, to his friends. You were just hearing from
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Speaker 1: our friends at KMBC nine US to doctor Kendall Crown's
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Speaker 1: joining us, Doctor Kendle Crowns, I want to understand how
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Speaker 1: the use of these drugs, potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl.
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Speaker 1: Don't know if they knew it was cut with fentanyl,
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Speaker 1: what that would look like. I mean, it's hard for
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Speaker 1: me to understand, although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted,
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Speaker 1: I've seen it at crime scenes where you have a
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Speaker 1: party and there's a plate of cocaine out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings, right, celery, carrots,
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Speaker 1: ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it.
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Speaker 1: You know how many times have you heard that, mom,
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Speaker 1: everybody's doing it. How are people supposed to know that
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Speaker 1: cocaine could be laced with fentanyl and what fentanyl can
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Speaker 1: do with you? Even a touch of fentanyl can kill you.
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Speaker 1: So what would fentanyl look like. Can it be in
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Speaker 1: a powder form?
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Speaker 14: Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe.
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Speaker 14: It can be in a white pottery form. It can
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Speaker 14: be in the form of a fake percocet, which is
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Speaker 14: a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it.
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Speaker 14: It can be a patch. It can even be on
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Speaker 14: a lozenge type suckers, one of the ways it is distributed.
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Speaker 14: But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl, can
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Speaker 14: be very deadly, and you don't know how much fentanyl
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Speaker 14: has been put in there, how much fentanyl you're actually
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Speaker 14: getting with the amount of cocaine that's been cut with it.
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Speaker 14: So that's why you could have a group of people
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Speaker 14: sitting together and three of them die and two of
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Speaker 14: them live because one got more fentanyl than the other.
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Speaker 14: Because it's it's really not regulated like a drug through
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Speaker 14: the FDA, it's just widely all over the place. So
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Speaker 14: that's why the street drugs are very dangerous is you
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Speaker 14: never know what you're getting. And one thing, we've had
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Speaker 14: cocaine cut with a dog de wormer as well, so
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Speaker 14: it's incredibly dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Ad Chinel Crown I have investigated cases. For instance, an
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Speaker 1: infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the
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Speaker 1: daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I
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Speaker 1: think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they
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Speaker 1: moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside
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Speaker 1: the daycare, and that movement released particles of fentanyl and
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Speaker 1: the infant inhaled it or touched it. It killed the baby.
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Speaker 1: So if you've got a plate of cocaine at last,
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Speaker 1: with any fentnel at all, there's your OD right there.
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Speaker 1: What started off as I guess a good time is
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Speaker 1: in death. I mean you can die from even inhaling
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Speaker 1: particles or touching particles of fentanyl.
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Speaker 14: Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous and even its friend or
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Speaker 14: another derivative of a car fentanyl is even more dangerous
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Speaker 14: down to the fact that law enforcement and paramedics will
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Speaker 14: now carry in a lock zone, which is a way
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Speaker 14: to counteract the effects of the opioid in their rigs
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Speaker 14: or in their cars too. If they get exposed to
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Speaker 14: it and begin having symptoms, they can take it and
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Speaker 14: try and save themselves. So fentanel is incredibly dangerous. It's
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Speaker 14: not a drug you really should mess with.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just thinking about these victims and how
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Speaker 1: they ended up frozen in plain view of their so
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Speaker 1: called friend Jordan Willis. You know, I'm trying to think
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Speaker 1: about their families. Dave mac tell me about the victims' families.
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Speaker 1: I know Jonathan is here speaking on behalf of his
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Speaker 1: brother Ricky, who died that day, whose body sat out
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Speaker 1: there freezing for so long? What about the other victims?
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Speaker 5: You know? Nancy? Mister Harrington's mom, Theresa, claimed she's been
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Speaker 5: kept out of the loop since the bodies worked, and
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Speaker 5: she said that they wouldn't tell me anything. Now she
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Speaker 5: is saying that the statements made it easy to think
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Speaker 5: that they had already made up their minds and there
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Speaker 5: wouldn't be any further investigation. And she's really pushing back
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Speaker 5: on this. She said the arrest didn't really clear up
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Speaker 5: any speculation about the dead, saying, quote, I still don't
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Speaker 5: know anything about how my son died or his last moments.
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Speaker 5: That's pretty upsetting when you look at this over a
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Speaker 5: year down the road, that she doesn't know any more
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Speaker 5: than you and I might know.
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Speaker 1: Well, Kendall Crown's what would someone go through if they
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Speaker 1: literally sat outside and an accidental fentyl stupor and froze dead.
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Speaker 1: That would be horrible, but they couldn't get up and move.
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Speaker 14: So basically fentnyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes
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Speaker 14: your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so
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Speaker 14: you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that
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Speaker 14: eventually fully your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die,
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Speaker 14: which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then
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Speaker 14: you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the
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Speaker 14: point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out
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Speaker 14: of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma.
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Speaker 14: So those individuals, how would.
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Speaker 1: They sit there and on the porch and a lounge
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Speaker 1: chair and lay in the backyard if they could move?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm certainly not a medical doctor, but certainly
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Speaker 1: they would get up off the porch or get off
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Speaker 1: the ground and come inside. According to the defendant, the
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Speaker 1: door was unlocked. I submit they couldn't.
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Speaker 14: Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough
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Speaker 14: fentyl in and it's caused them to go into basically
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Speaker 14: a coma, they can't move at that point, and then
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Speaker 14: they will either more likely than not die from the
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Speaker 14: fentanyl prior to dying from freezing to death, because there
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Speaker 14: are auto findings you'll find that'll show that they died
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Speaker 14: from hype both thermia or freezing to death, which I
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Speaker 14: haven't seen any reports of that being found.
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Speaker 1: Alexis Teresshut. We keep referring to them as the Kansas
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs fans, and they were so much more than that.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about their families.
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Speaker 7: Well, Clayton mcginney was engaged. He was engaged to a
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Speaker 7: woman named April Mahoney, and they were very happy together.
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Speaker 1: They were very young.
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Speaker 7: You know, he worked in construction, small business construction, and
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Speaker 7: he was going through a really rough time. There weren't
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Speaker 7: a lot of jobs. But they were still together at
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Speaker 7: the time, and she in fact started a GoFundMe to
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Speaker 7: sell everybody like he was so wonderful and he was
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Speaker 7: somebody that was her whole life, and the two of
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Speaker 7: them had all these future plans together and then it
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Speaker 7: was abruptly cut short. And in fact, she was the
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Speaker 7: one that found that April was trying trying trying to
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Speaker 7: reach him, Clayton, calling him over and over again. She's
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Speaker 7: the one that showed up at Jordan Willis's house. She
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Speaker 7: broke through the basement window, she got out, she found
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Speaker 7: and then the other two guys.
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Speaker 1: Did Overnight, we learned to arrested in the horrific deaths
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Speaker 1: of three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game
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Speaker 1: with their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested
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Speaker 1: the so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy
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Speaker 1: named Ivory J. Carson a k A Blade. Okay, straight
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Speaker 1: back out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother. Tell
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Speaker 1: me your thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, summing everything up, you know, I just
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Speaker 3: you know, he was my brother. I cherish him a lot.
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Speaker 3: And his three daughters, you know, and you know, so
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Speaker 3: a couple of them are a little bit young to
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Speaker 3: fully understand. It's a it's very difficult to think about
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Speaker 3: what they are going through and the answers that they
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Speaker 3: have been neglected for all this time, and it's it's just,
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Speaker 3: you know, very makes us very distraught.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on
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Speaker 1: some certain issues.
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Speaker 3: What well, one of the things that we've been told
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Speaker 3: since the beginning which did not make sense is the
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Speaker 3: ruling out of foul play. And you know, the the
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Speaker 3: amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know,
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Speaker 3: since January ninth, it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad.
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Speaker 3: I understand that it takes time, and you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: glad that we are finally getting some answers, but there's
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Speaker 3: there's still a lot out there that we don't fully understand.
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Speaker 3: And just three or four months ago, Jordan's lawyer was
40:53
Speaker 3: saying that he thinks that charges will come, but not
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Speaker 3: to Jordan, and that's from talking to some pro secutor.
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Speaker 3: So that part doesn't make sense to me either. And
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Speaker 3: I'm just the more I give back into this, you know,
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Speaker 3: the more pain that's coming back, just like there was
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Speaker 3: back then, and the more questions that are arising from
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Speaker 3: all of this.
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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know any evidence as
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Speaker 1: it relates to this case, the case is ongoing and
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Speaker 1: headed for trial, please dial eight one six two three
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Speaker 1: three four five point one one one. We pray that
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Speaker 1: justice unfolds and the truth comes out in court. And
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Speaker 1: now we remember an American hero, Officer Britney Mew Lake
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Speaker 1: County Sheriffs, Indiana, a US Marine Corps veteran, survived by
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Speaker 1: daughter Savannah and partner Joseph American Hero Officer Brittany Mew.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off good bye friend,