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Tamra Judge….and Jury! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: I'm in my car and he's like, listen, this is
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  Speaker 1: one of the hardest phone calls we've ever had to make.
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, Bravo's just going to go in a
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  Speaker 1: different direction, and they've offered you three episodes for the season.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, are you fucking kidding me right now?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, well, you know this is what I said,
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  Speaker 1: fuck off and I hung up.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned. We'll get into my conversation with Tamra Judge
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  Speaker 2: right after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.
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  Speaker 2: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced
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  Speaker 2: top rated programs such as eight seasons of the Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as
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  Speaker 2: Netflix Is Styling, Hollywood Owns, number one rated Love and
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  Speaker 2: Marriage Franchise, and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just to name
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  Speaker 2: a few. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
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  Speaker 2: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
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  Speaker 2: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that
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  Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about Hey, you guys,
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  Speaker 2: So today's guest on Reality with the King is the myth,
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  Speaker 2: the woman, the legend, Tamra Judge. Let me tell y'all something.
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  Speaker 2: I started watching The Real Housewife of OC because of Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be clear. She was the right amount of mess
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  Speaker 2: but funny, and she brought something so different to the
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  Speaker 2: OC franchise that the moment I laid eyes on this
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  Speaker 2: blonde bombshell, I was hooked. And what's so funny is
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  Speaker 2: this is my first time meeting Tamra, and when I
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  Speaker 2: say to you, it won't be the last because she
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  Speaker 2: and I became the best of friends after this interview.
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  Speaker 2: We text talk shit almost every single day. I love her.
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  Speaker 2: She is now one of my favorite people in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I really cannot wait until you, guys take in this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to see a very different side of Tamra Judge.
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  Speaker 2: You single handedly tammera change the way Housewives was organized
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  Speaker 2: and orchestrated? Do you accept that?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize it, honestly until I read part
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  Speaker 1: of the book that came out. Did Quinn's book All
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  Speaker 1: Not All Diamonds and Rose and I'm like, all the
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  Speaker 1: producers gave me so many, so much credit and props
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  Speaker 1: for kind of changing things and putting housewives on the map.
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  Speaker 2: How did they find you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a funny story. It had only
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  Speaker 1: been on for two years. I knew about it because
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  Speaker 1: it was, you know, right in my backyard filming, and
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  Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I lived next door to each other,
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  Speaker 1: and we were on AOL I am. I was in
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  Speaker 1: my office, she was in her office, and we're drinking
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  Speaker 1: wine chatting on there and she's like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: look at this.
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  Speaker 3: There's a pasting call for the Real Housewives of Orange County.
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  Speaker 1: You should go. And I'm like, hell no, why the
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  Speaker 1: fuck would I want to do that. I go, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not interesting, I'm not exciting. I don't really do anything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm an actual housewife. And I had my
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  Speaker 1: real estate license, I did a part time. My kids
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  Speaker 1: were so little that I thought there's just no way,
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  Speaker 1: so jokingly I filled it out like a I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: an eighteen year old horny boy and just totally I
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  Speaker 1: didn't send pictures, nothing. And they called me immediately and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we got your application.
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  Speaker 3: They left me a voicemlug because I didn't know the number.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, really, So I tell Simon,
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  Speaker 1: you know my husband at the time. Simon, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: HOUSEEC wants to interview me. And I thought he'd be
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  Speaker 1: like no, this is a hard no. And he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: call him, and I'm like okay. So I called him.
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  Speaker 1: They came over, they interviewed me. They sent me like
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  Speaker 1: a stack of paper. They gave me a stack of papers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hundreds of papers for me to fill out, and
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  Speaker 1: I just threw him in the drawer.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't think there was any chance that anything.
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  Speaker 1: Then they called me back like two weeks later. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, do you fill those papers? I'm like no,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, can we come over again. I'm like sure.
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  Speaker 1: So they met my kids and my husband at the
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  Speaker 1: time and all that, and then next thing I know,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you got it. I'm like what, shut
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  Speaker 1: the fuck up. He's like no, you fucking got it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like shit, like wow, and then the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: And that was sixteen seventeen years.
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  Speaker 2: Ago, and you were iconic then you're iconic now. I
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  Speaker 2: remember watching you and my favorite season was when Gretchen came,
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  Speaker 2: come on, hold on to.
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  Speaker 1: Your daddy's Yeah, he comes, and the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Like, get Gretchen wasted, Like I don't think the world
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  Speaker 2: understand this. I will always give you your props because
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  Speaker 2: you are such a force. So that's why when you
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  Speaker 2: were fired, and I love that you're like, say fire
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  Speaker 2: like I was fire, guys, like I'm not one of
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  Speaker 2: those housewops, like, well, you know, it's a mutual decision,
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  Speaker 2: like no, a bitch was fired, a bit was fired,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I listened to your
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  Speaker 2: story about the phone call that was placed, and I
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  Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you. I felt so bad for
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  Speaker 2: you because I do this for a living and I
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  Speaker 2: look at someone like you who literally gave everything to
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  Speaker 2: that show I did, and you were so transparent, you
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  Speaker 2: left nothing on the table. Then the crew loved you,
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  Speaker 2: and you were so respectful of the crew to receive
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  Speaker 2: a phone call that you were not asked back in
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  Speaker 2: that very moment. Did you feel betrayed or did you
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  Speaker 2: feel like a failure?
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  Speaker 1: I felt both.
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  Speaker 3: It was really weird because I had a good season.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. They called me to do my
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  Speaker 1: you know, the pre filming, they sit with you and
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  Speaker 1: talk about what's going on. So that was already scheduled.
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  Speaker 2: So let me explain that to the audience. So what
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  Speaker 2: happens is before a new season starts, for do you
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  Speaker 2: start to meet with the cast. We have a one
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  Speaker 2: on one meetings with each housewife in their homes or
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  Speaker 2: at a restaurant, and we get insight based on what
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  Speaker 2: their storyline would be for the upcoming season. So you
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  Speaker 2: you went through that entire process.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I had. I had a schedule for Friday, and
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  Speaker 1: they called me on a Sunday or a Saturday and
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  Speaker 1: I was camping. I was and I didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: cell reception, and I had a bunch of my friends
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  Speaker 1: there and and we'd have to drive up to the
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  Speaker 1: hill to the road to get cell service. So every
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  Speaker 1: so often I would go up there and just to
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  Speaker 1: check on the kids or whatever. And I went up
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  Speaker 1: there and I saw like these text messages from Alex
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  Speaker 1: and Doug, who are are worked for the production company.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, hey can you talk?
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  Speaker 1: Can you talk? And we need to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, hey, sorry, I don't have good cell reception,
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  Speaker 1: but what's going on they're like, we'd rather say talk
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  Speaker 1: to you in person.
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  Speaker 2: I went, oh, shita.
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  Speaker 1: Literally yeah. In order for me to get good sell reception,
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  Speaker 1: I had to drive down the street and I'm in
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  Speaker 1: my car and he's like, listen, this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the hardest phone calls we've ever had to make. And
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  Speaker 1: they're like, Bravo's just going to go in a different direction,
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  Speaker 1: and they've offered you three episodes for this season. And
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  Speaker 1: I said, are you fucking kidding me right now? And
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  Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know, this is what they're off.
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  Speaker 1: And I said fuck off and I hung up. I
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  Speaker 1: was and I got back to the camp and I
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  Speaker 1: was hysterically crying, hysterically like it ruined my last day
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  Speaker 1: on my trip. And I'm like, you know, and Eddie's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank god. He was all excited, like listen, you had
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  Speaker 1: a good run, you know. But my initial thought was
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  Speaker 1: just like devastate, like I felt betrayed. I sent them
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  Speaker 1: a text. Thank god it didn't go through because my
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  Speaker 1: reception was bad. I'm like, you guys are fucking assholes.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you did this to me. Your liars
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  Speaker 1: what you are? Your liars And it never went through.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think because I didn't have any reception. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, then, you know, I got a text from Andy.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, listen, when you feel better, give me a call.
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  Speaker 1: So I got home. I tried to, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: wrap my brain around what is going on. I did
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  Speaker 1: feel like a big figure. I felt like I got
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  Speaker 1: kicked out of the cool girls club. Yeah, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're not good enough to sit with us anymore, goes
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  Speaker 1: over at that lunch table. Yeah, and then it was
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  Speaker 1: just scary. So I called Andy.
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  Speaker 3: I said, listen, I did not expect this, and he says, listen.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, just think of it this way. When they
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  Speaker 1: ask you back, it's going to feel real good and
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  Speaker 1: the viewers are going to be really happy.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I'm not sure what that means.
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  Speaker 2: When he said that. Now, the hindsight is twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: to make that comment is very cryptic. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: it was a decision that Andy may have disagreed with?
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think so me too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, of course I haven't heard anything since then.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my love, listen, I'll let me ask this person.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I know. As somebody who's
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  Speaker 2: on the inside, right, Okay, Vicky had a horrible reunion.
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  Speaker 1: Right the last reunion.
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  Speaker 2: She was on her last reunion. So Vicky got demoted
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  Speaker 2: the season you were full time, but that was both
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  Speaker 2: your last season. You both got let go. We all
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  Speaker 2: saw the writing on the wall for Vicky. Did you
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  Speaker 2: think that this may be Vicky's last season instead of
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  Speaker 2: your own? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that Vicky was going to go because
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  Speaker 1: they demoted her, and that I would have another season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And even me watching your last season, what I
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  Speaker 2: saw on Twitter at the time was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people felt you were playing to the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: I actually heard that Bravo said the same thing I
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  Speaker 1: was playing to the camera.
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  Speaker 2: Was yeah, yeah, do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 1: No? No, I was in a terrible place in my
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  Speaker 1: life at that time. I was in this multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit then. I have never been in a lawsuit before.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to talk about so many things that
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  Speaker 1: are going on in my life. Money was flying out
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  Speaker 1: the door just to protect myself, you know, to the
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  Speaker 1: attorneys and to fight this. And I was scared. I
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  Speaker 1: was super scared, so I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I had to be careful what I said, I had
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  Speaker 3: careful what I did and.
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  Speaker 1: Insign I was just like crumbling, and you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was just a shitty season for me in the sense
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  Speaker 1: that they cut out so much of my stuff. They
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  Speaker 1: cut out my business stuff that we filmed multiple We
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  Speaker 1: had a big housewife party, you know, at the launch
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  Speaker 1: and my my CBD company like all these things. We
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  Speaker 1: had meetings there. We had housewives coming in and talking
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  Speaker 1: to me like. They cut it all out. They went
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  Speaker 1: as far as to blur the bottle even if they
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  Speaker 1: saw at my house. And I'm like, as time was
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  Speaker 1: going on, I'm like, oh shit, I knew when it
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  Speaker 1: was airing, I'm like, they're pushing me out. I knew
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  Speaker 1: so and then so I would. That's why I called
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  Speaker 1: the producer's liars when I text them, because I'd asked them,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, am I done? Are you pushing me out?
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  Speaker 1: Because this is what kind of looks like you're making
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  Speaker 1: me look bad. You're like, it's just everything they possibly
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  Speaker 1: could have done to make they did.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like they had to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: you and Vickie to make Kelly Dodd the face of
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  Speaker 2: that particular season.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't know. Because then they
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  Speaker 1: went around and fired her the next season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they fire her for reasons you and I
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  Speaker 2: both know, because she and someone else's quote she was
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  Speaker 2: on the wrong side of history.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So me being a producer, what my sensibility said was,
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  Speaker 2: Kelly obviously is a star. We all can admit listen,
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  Speaker 2: disagree with her or agree with her. When it comes
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  Speaker 2: to reality TV, Kelly Dodd is a star full stop.
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  Speaker 2: When they let go of you and Vicki Bogs, I
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  Speaker 2: felt that they are making Kelly Dodd the face of
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  Speaker 2: this franchies and they need to bring in new blood
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  Speaker 2: to make it the Kelly Dodge Show because every show
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  Speaker 2: needs a queen Bee, and I felt that they wanted
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  Speaker 2: Kelly to be the queen Bee, not saying that. That's
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  Speaker 2: the truth. That's what I got from it. But you
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  Speaker 2: didn't feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I never thought about that. I never
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  Speaker 1: thought it. I never saw it that way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I try not to think that there is
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  Speaker 3: like one girl on the show that is it's you know, is.
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  Speaker 1: It the Heather Debreu Show this year? Is it the
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Dodge Show this year? I see your face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I mean it's an ensemble cast.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, And that's the thing when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to an ensemble cast, every ensemble hast like the
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  Speaker 2: queen bee, right, So I'll just say like, for O see,
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  Speaker 2: it was a biggie. Obviously you were great addition to
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  Speaker 2: that show. VICKI started it. She was the queen bee, right.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that they tried to make Heather de
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  Speaker 2: Bro the queen Bee of this season was the worst
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  Speaker 2: decision ever in life.
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  Speaker 1: It's not working out.
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  Speaker 2: Heather Debro the flop this season. You cannot have a
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  Speaker 2: Heather Debro type be the queen bee of an ensemble
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  Speaker 2: cast because the essence of a queen bee is somebody
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  Speaker 2: who is likable and somebody who all the ladies can
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  Speaker 2: rally around with. In no way, shape or form, do
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  Speaker 2: I believe in my lifetime that the likes of Heather
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  Speaker 2: Debro will be friends with Gina.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that is like so ridiculous, like to have Gina and
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  Speaker 1: Heather like best friends right out the gate is like, huh.
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  Speaker 2: We're fall from New Jersey East Coast. We're gonna go
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  Speaker 2: to New York City eat pizza.
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  Speaker 1: Who I know, I know, I was actually in New
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  Speaker 1: York when that happened. I was doing a photoshoot for
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  Speaker 1: the Ultimate Girls Trip and they called me and they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's go out. Can you film with us tomorrow? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, sorry, no I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm an icon, I'm a legend, and I'm the moment. No,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I just for me, Like you know, I appreciate everything
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  Speaker 1: that Bravo has done for me, and I hope that
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  Speaker 1: they appreciate everything I've done for them. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just going to pop into the show and just be
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  Speaker 1: like here I am, because to me, it was just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, desperado and my time's
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  Speaker 1: worth money.
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  Speaker 2: Oh baby, and you're worth every penny. And please, they're
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  Speaker 2: not going to use your promos when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: Housewives of OC, I do believe you are going to
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  Speaker 2: get asked back and let me tell you why. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: unlike most fired housewives, you have always been gracious. You
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  Speaker 2: don't shit talk the network. No, you don't shit talk
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  Speaker 2: the franchise. No, you're patty here and there about the ratings,
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  Speaker 2: because the ratings are not as great as it was
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  Speaker 2: last season during COVID nor the high rated season that
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  Speaker 2: you were on. You show up for Andy. You and
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  Speaker 2: Andy have a great relationship. Your tits are in his
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  Speaker 2: den in the set two says Andy defends you when
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  Speaker 2: Noela tried to throw you shade. Andy cull had defended you. Girl.
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  Speaker 2: I know, girl, he loves you.
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  Speaker 1: We have a good We have a good relationship for sure.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't talked to you backstage. I watched What Happens
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  Speaker 2: Live and said, wink wink, let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: No, And I've actually talked to him since then because
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  Speaker 1: I have another show opportunity right now and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: I can't say what it is right now, but I
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  Speaker 1: had to let him know because I said, listen, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talk about me coming back, and I
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  Speaker 1: know it's way too soon for that to even like
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  Speaker 1: the conversations to even happen the show. Still they haven't
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  Speaker 1: even shot. I mean, they shot the reunion, but they
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  Speaker 1: haven't even aired the reunion yet. So those decisions I
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  Speaker 1: think are made after the end of the show. See
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  Speaker 1: how the reunion goes. If somebody flops, you know this
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  Speaker 1: is their last chance, They're gone, right, And so I said,
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  Speaker 1: I have this opportunity. It films in May June. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what your schedule is, but I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to let you know, and he said, okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know yet, but can you give the information
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  Speaker 1: to production?
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  Speaker 2: So you gave it to Alex and Dougs. I did,
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  Speaker 2: president and CEO of Evolution Media that produces OC Housewives
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  Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Which they are great. I love them both.
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  Speaker 2: They're both one of the best human beings in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Like those two guys are just first of all, they're brilliant, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and they are the sweetest guys in the world. They
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  Speaker 2: have no mean bone in their bodies. Atom I will
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  Speaker 2: always give Evolution their props, and they make fantastic television.
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  Speaker 2: They really do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you, knowing that I have
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  Speaker 1: a big mouth, would you tell me, hey, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we want you to come back.
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  Speaker 3: No, you'd wait to the last minute.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: You have a point there. But listen, I follow you
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: on Twitter. You love to tease the girls. You'll take
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a picture or your grand staircase holding a phone and said,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: oh the call I've been waiting for, or are something
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you know cryptic like that, right, which I think is
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: great because those Housewife fans. Baby, they hang on to
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: every word, and I love that they do. I will
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: say this, I would be too afraid to lose you.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: They need me right now.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I need you right now. I stopped watching OC after
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: episode seven.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a little difficult.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Difficult means boring, Difficult means hard to watch, Difficult means
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: a hard pass.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not shading anybody on the cast, but it
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: takes a special somebody and a certain personality to shine
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: on reality TV. And I feel like we have a
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: handful of girls on OC that don't They're not qualified.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And when you watch the show, now, do you feel
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: like they ruined your show?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's room for improvement, for sure. You know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of the girls saying this is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: a transition here. They're bringing in a new cam. I'm like,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: What that means me neither, because it doesn't exist.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. It's a transition, yere No, No,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you're just saying like there's new people in here. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: if it sucks, it's because we're in transition. I don't
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: even know what it means. Well, listen, it's not horrible
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: show's not horrible, it's just for me, it's very hard
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to judge Orange County.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I can watch Atlanta, I can watch.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: New Jersey right now and just be like, holy shit,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: this is good TV. But when I watch Orange County
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: because I was part of that cast, it's just it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: hard for me. It's hard for me to judge. So
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that's why I leave a lot of it up to Teddy,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: who gets me in trouble all the time because she's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: just calling it like it is, and I saying, I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: keep going, just wait, just wait till Beverly Hills airs,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna I'm gonna have to say things about
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Kyle or somebody, which I win because I absolutely love her.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's hard.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: For me to recap oh see, because I'm like, this
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: shit sucks.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Tamra Judge.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back after be a quick as this
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: is reality with the King and I'm Carlo King. Let's
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: get back into my conversation with my girl, Tamra Judge. So,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: if you were to come back, because I believe that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in order for Heather to come back, that Kelly had
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to go yeah, okay, you agree with me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I don't think that Heather
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: has any control over who stays and who goes. It's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: not like, okay, we'll come back, but you got to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: fire that person because they don't play like that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: No, they don't.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: They don't play like that. You know, it's their decision
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: who goes. And I do think that Kelly went, as
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you said, because of some political stuff unfortunately, and she
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: would have never worked with Heather. I personally think it'd
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: be great TV take us back to Ireland. That was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: great TV.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean it wasn't broke. I don't know
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: why they had to fix it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Speaking of fixed, so if you were asked to come back,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and if you have a power to come back to
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the show, who would you get rid of and who
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: would you want to bring in with you?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that I would get rid of Emily.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Gina's on the fence. I feel like she's evolving as
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: time goes on. I kind of like Noela on the TV.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I know that's not a popular choice, but I feel
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: like it was her first season. She was trying to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: act a little bit, but she's beautiful, she has great comebacks.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Great comebacks, like when I called her the village idiot
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live and she said something like
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: oh coming from the most iconic village idiot. I literally
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: sent her a DM. I'm like, girl, that was good.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: That was good.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that right. I love you so much.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Because I like if I could poke fun of people,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like if they poke fun of me back, like, I'm like, yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: bring it, But I don't I have super thicks.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Again, I don't really give two shits about that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: But I feel like Noela can be Like if she
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: gets another chance, I feel like if she learns from
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the mistakes she did, then she could be a really
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: good housewife. Jen Armstrong, bye, goodbye. I mean, there's no
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: other word. I don't want to see another marriage breakup
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: like we've seen it bazillion times.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see a marriage breakup.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see a vow and nule. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: don't want any of that. It's played and she just,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you know, she went into it and we have some
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: mutual friends.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I just want to promote my business. I just want
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to promote my business.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And it kind of shows I heard that too.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of infomercial going on on Orange
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: County right now.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You did not mention Shannon.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I want her there so I can come back take
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: care of some business.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you are one of the greatest
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: house bives of all time. Hoddy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't hate Shannon. I do not hate her
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: at all. I actually have I have love for her,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just very disappointed and hurt by her actions. So I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: would love to go back and discuss that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And what's interesting is you were so beloved by the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: fans and the crew, and Shannon doesn't seem to be
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the nicest when it comes to her relationship with the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: producers and the crew, And do you feel like, well, damn, bitch,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I'm the nicest to the crew. I'm the nicest to production.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I give my life. You got Shannon over here, who
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: takes off her mic if it gets too hot in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the kitchen, and who yells at you guys, but she
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: gets to stay.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah and calls them in the middle of the night screaming.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, No, that was hard for me. That was
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: really really hard for me to wrap my brain around.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, I give you my all, I'm good to everybody,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I'm respectful to the network. Have I pissed them off before?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I have, But for the most part, like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I was a really good employee and to see like
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to be kicked to the curb and see other people
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: that maybe don't treat the crew well, maybe lie about
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: what they're showing, making up storylines, treat production bad, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what kind of message are you putting
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: out there that you can treat production like shit, makeups
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: storylines and still be employed. To me, I'm a business owner.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I look at those things in detail like that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: No, no, I don't play those games. If you're mean
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to the crew, you're out. That's that's that's that's That's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: always been my philosophy, period point full stop.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: In the story, the crew and the talent are working together,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're equals.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, they are total equals.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And you can't like they're making a show for Bravo
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and we're all doing this together, like we're a team.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Like there's no room for you to go and tell
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: them off or take your mic off or I'm not
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: doing that or you know, it's just it's a bad behavior.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So when it comes to the announcement that Bravo is
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: splitting the New York City franchise into two. Obviously, the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: New York City Franchise is the second installment after OC.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Do you think that they need to do that to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the OC, Yes, yeah, I do.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm listen.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'm super excited about all these news shows that come out,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: like Dubai.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: When I saw the work and everything like, this is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: how you do it, this is how like it looks
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: so good, Miami, Holy.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Should fantastic, fantastic.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they're on Peacock. I mean, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: don't know that one's better better than the other, but
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why they went straight to Peacock and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: then went over to Bravo.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So I thought, oh, I'll tell you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know. And then I instantly thought
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: like Dubai was going to go straight to Peacock because
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I was told a couple of years ago from somebody
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: from the inside that works at NBC that in the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: next two years, this is what's going to happen. Some
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of the shows that are not doing so well, they're
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going to transferm over to Peacock, and that's where they're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: going to go, and then they're going to start creating
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: new shows, new franchises. So I thought, oh, okay, this
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is it. We're going to all.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Start going to Peacock because streaming really is where it's at.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to Bravo, but I'm sure they know that
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: as well, Like the ratings are going down, you know what,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: The ratings are going down everywhere, everywhere, every show is
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: going down. So I thought, oh, sure they're all going
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to go to Peacock.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But no, yeah, no, no, So tell me why.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: They're on Peacock because I have not gotten a straight
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: answer about that.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is the straight answer again not saying confirmed sources.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But Peacock is a new subscription in the streaming space.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: In order for Peacock to have subscribers, you need people
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to sign up, So you need shows on Peacock that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: is worthy of people spending four ninety nine every month
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to watch a show, right, because they're not going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: watch repeats of all these housewife franchises. So Miami Coming
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Back from the Dead was was an experiment to see
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: if they were able to get people excited enough to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: subscribe to Peacock because you need the subscription and because
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Miami and me and you agree on this was a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: fantastic season. It now said, Okay, we've built an audience
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: on streaming. So to your point you just made five
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: minutes ago, they now have said because of Miami Housewives
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and because of Optimist Girls Trip, we've now have proven
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: that an audience will pay to watch content on this
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: platform versus five months until it's on Bravo. That being said,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I believe that the legacy of New York would be
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: on Bravo, and I think the reboot is going to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: be on Peacock.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, yes, I never even thought about.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It like that, because, like you said about the ratings,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think you want to mess with the ratings
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: anymore when it comes to New York City, because if
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you try to make New York City have the same
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: or higher ratings than this previous season, you're not gonna
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: accomplish that with some new faces. You're just not. But
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: if you got Bethany, Ramona Jail, Luan Tamra, meet you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: and the world, We're gonna tune into Bravo Tuesday night
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: at nine o'clock and watch it live.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: What do you think that the new show? Is it
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: going to be like a full twenty episode. Is it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: going to be broken down to like Ultimate Girls Trip,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: where it's only you know, six to eight episodes.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: As a content creator, you go in thinking like, okay,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we may have this amount of episodes, but of course,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: if the content is good, you get more. Yes, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: believe they'll try to budget ten episodes, and I think
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: they can squeeze out fourteen depending on how good it is.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Twelve or fourteen. Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they're going to do that to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Orange County?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I think they need to because this season has proven
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: that you can't bring back a familiar face and expect
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that familiar face to connect with some newbies. Because again,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the essence of the Housewise franchise was organic friendships, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that's why Miami works. And when you watch Miami, they
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: all know each other. I mean, Gurney was the wedding
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: planner to Alex. It was right. All of those women
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: had a history and that's why you enjoyed it. Even
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: if you come back to the OC, it will still
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have to make sense in terms of your friendships and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: not just seeing a bunch of strangers live in a house.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: That's the real world. On MTV, we don't need that, right, Yeah, I.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Feel like there's too many new faces and not a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: lot of organic friendships. As much as they want to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: make it sound like, oh, we're best friends, I don't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: think so.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about Orange County. So how would you fix
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Orange County?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I would bring you back, Vigi back, I will keep Heather,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I would keep Shannon, and I will bring back one
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: more wild card. Now. Look, I love Gretchen and Rossi
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: because she is a bag of mess and at the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: end of the day, her and Slade are the Spencer
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and Heidi a Bravo. I don't know if that's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: compliment or insult, but take it either way. On a compliment,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So I would watch it if it's Tamra, Vicky, Heather, Debro,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Shanna Badore and yeah, and Gretchen. I'm tuning in live
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and I am going to call Doug and Alex go
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: on set.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about Noela? Would you keep her with that cast?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No? No, I think she should go on a WEE
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: TV marriage boot camp show. But the New Boyfriend.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: The one show I would never do. I said we TV,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that's wheur Housewives.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Go to die. I think Noela should do that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, she will.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: She will, Oh, she certainly will, or she'll go on
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like the challenge. So let's talk about the Ultimate Girls Trip.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Let's how dramatic, fun juicy is that show?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I was a little bit concerned about
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: doing it because I'm like, how is this gonna happen? Like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: there's girls that like some of them I knew. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: didn't know them very well, but I knew them. Like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: put these girls that don't really know each other in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a house and just to free for all, like see
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: And oddly enough, we all understood this assignment.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, and we all you know, I really do you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be great TV? And Andy keeps
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: gushing about it? You know, it's all in how they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: edit it and what shows what doesn't show. It was fun,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, and it was exhausting
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: because we were only there. I can't remember, like seven
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: or eight days or something total. And it was NonStop
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: work and it had the whole feeling of Big Brother
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: because there was cameras everywhere. I'm like, oh shit, so
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: we VICKI and I would be in the kitchen eating
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: cold pizza, you know, talking shit probably and then I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: look up and I'm like, that camera over there is
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: on and it's moving as I'm moving. So those those
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: are the times that I'm like not looking forward to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: at all because I'm like, you know, you get jounk,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you forget about the cameras.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Who knows it's going to come out of your mouth.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: But they knew what they were doing with those camera
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and when they were told us, these cameras are expensive,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: do not cover them, do not put anything over them,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: don't touch them. Yeah, okay, okay.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Did you find that's sort of reality fun? Because obviously
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: you spend many years on Housewives, where you work a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: couple of days a week, a few hours a day,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and you get to go home and have a life.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: How did it feel to be not trapped but confined,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: trapped trapped?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It was hard. It was like I said, it's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: lot of work. It was eighteen hours that we would
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: really film because we were filming constantly, even if the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: cameras were down. It was literally two at least two
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: crews during the day. Do you know, they work and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: then another one comes in and you know, not a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: lot of sleep.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: We did not sleep, a lot, a lot of drinking,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of events.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of events, so it's I can't wait.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even know when it's coming out.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I think June. We've been told so many different months,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: but the last I heard end of June.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And do you think this one will top the first
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Ultimate Girls Trip?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's different, Like they are in this very
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: beautiful tropical place, and you know, it's just a different feel.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be more more drama,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: which you know, and ultimately that's what the fans like.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: They like the drama, so it's probably going to be
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: more entertaining, but totally different phil from the first one.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I liked the first one. I enjoyed it. I thought
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it was great. It was it's really interesting now. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: remember years and years ago Andy saying, you know, one day,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: when Housewives starts winding down, we're going to take girls
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: from different franchises, throw them on an island and see
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And when that came out, I'm like, oh, Okay, this
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: is happening.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: This is happening. I feel like things are happening at
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Bravo that we don't know yet, you know, Like you say, like, well,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: why did they get rid of you like you were
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: a team player. You did this, you great, fans loved you.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger picture. I don't know what
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it is yet, but I do think there's a bigger picture.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the OC will be
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: split into a legacy and new women you. Regardless of that,
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  Speaker 2: you are one hundred percent coming back to the show.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind. So that show you
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: have in May, is it a dating Well, it's not
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a dating show because you're married. Is it a docu series?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Can you say that much?
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  Speaker 1: At least it's a competition show.
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  Speaker 2: It's a competition show. Okay, So you're not competing with
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the docu So I think you'll be allowed to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I will definitely be allowed to do it. We're
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: just ironing out contract stuff right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're coming back. You heard it here first,
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  Speaker 2: Carlos can't give you this exclusive Tama Judge. Not confirmed,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: but confirmed by me. You are coming back to the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Elsie Housewives, regardless.
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  Speaker 1: Do I get the intro she's back.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: They could bring Charae back twice. They could bring you back, baby.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that. It's like Hello, Hello, I'm back. I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I want a low key return. I want to be like, hey,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to know if I'm coming back.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. And I want it
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to be something like Heather's taken Shannon to lunch and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: she gets to the table and there I.
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  Speaker 2: Am ooh ooh. I'll give you my phone number at
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: least text me be coming back, and I promise I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: won't tell anybody. Okay, Okay, that's the deal. Did Denise
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Richards really try to sleep with you?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I have no comment on that, but.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Is it being discussed on The Ultimate Girls Trip with
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Brandy Glanvale. Yes, if you wanted to, would you sleep
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: with Denise Richards if.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't married? Yes, it's Denise fucking Richards girls, hot.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Hot as fuck, hot as fuck. Okay, last question? Who
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: is You're a mount rushmore of housewives.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Kyle, Bethany, Vicky and Nini and then Andy too.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like Andy space needs to be up there
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good Listen. I have to say this,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and I do mean this. You and Andy's relationship makes
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: me so happy because as a producer, nothing makes me
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: happy to know with my cast that I work with
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: love me as much as I love them, and no
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: matter if me and another cast member get into it,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: there's I still love there. Yeah, And I see that
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  Speaker 2: with you and Andy, I really do. And it makes
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: me happy to know that you guys still have a
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: great relationship. Thank you.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I love my dorm I mean long history,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen years I've known him. The hardest thing for me,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: after you know, acknowledging the fact and absorbing the fact
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't coming back, is missing the crew. That
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: was so hard for me, Like these were guys that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: were because we pretty much had the same crew the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: entire time I was filming, and these are guys that
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: are in my house like all the time every day.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember my little son who's now twenty
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: one years old, used to make them nachos, And you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that was hard. That was really tough not being a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: part of that family anymore and feeling like okay, it's over,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and it was just such a huge you know, the cast.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Then there was Bravo, going to Bravo and going to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live, and my relationship with Andy and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: my relationship with all the producers in the camera guy
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and the audio and the PA and Doug and Alex
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and all that. That was really so hard for me
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to not have them in my house.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And I could tell your producers girls, so on, behalf
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: of all the producers in the world, thank you. We
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: need more women and men for that matter, like you
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: who appreciates the crew as much as we appreciate the cast.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: So I on, behalf of the industry, want to thank
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: you for the endless amount of effort, year's dedication that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: you brought to the OC. So I will give your
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: flowers virtually.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, so, Tamer, where can people find you and listen
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to you and all those wonderful things?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Yes to teas in a pod? Definitely, we are wherever
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you hear your podcast, We're there Hashtown Twatts, which we
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like to call each other.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: And then of course on social media Tamar Judge. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: then if you're into CBD and a little bit.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Of THHC, I have my CBD line online Vinus CBD
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and come see us at cut Fitness.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you, Tamer Judge, legendary housewive who will
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: make a comeback to the OC somehow, some way. Now
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you're just spreading rumors and that is going to happen.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you, my love. That was a treat, right Listen.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: The beauty of this podcast is I'm meeting people that
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I've also been a fan of for a very long time.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And Tamor Judge is such an iconic cast member on
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Wards County. But she's so real,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: she's so relatable, and I feel like my conversation with
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: her gives you guys a much better perspective on who
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: she is, not just as an icon, but as a woman.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: She's so smart and the fact that she's just not thirsty.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something, A lot of housewives who
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: get fired off their shows, they a love to release
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: a statement saying, oh, well, you know, I'm going on
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to do other things. Tamor keeps no, I was fired
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and it hurt my feelings. I respect that. And number two,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: she owns it, like would I like to go back
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  Speaker 2: to the OC. Absolutely, And last but not least, I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: strongly believe Tamar Judge is going to be asked back
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: on the Real Housewives Orange County. And when she does
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: get asked I'll make sure to get this exclusive interview
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: where she talks about it. Thoughts, opinions read honey Yeah
• 38:32
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