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Construct Your Own Conceptual Offense · A Quick Timeout

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Great to have with us today,
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Faye Bette,
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assistant coach for the Townsend Tigers.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach, welcome.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: For those who are not familiar with Colonial Athletic Association hoops,
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Townsend this last year had a 25-win season and went 15-3 in
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the CAA and finished
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SPEAKER_00: things off with an NIT berth.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach,
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did you feel last summer kind of going into the season that
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that was maybe going to
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SPEAKER_00: be expected or were you surprised at all with that?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think we were surprised.
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SPEAKER_01: I think recruiting was one of the big things.
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SPEAKER_01: This is where you start everything with.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think we added some really good pieces.
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SPEAKER_01: And then from there, now you got to try to make them fit together.
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SPEAKER_01: That was the biggest part of it.
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SPEAKER_01: So we were prepared to win at the end of the day.
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SPEAKER_01: So we kind of load up a little bit on that sense of it.
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SPEAKER_01: The goal was to win the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_01: So we came off short.
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SPEAKER_00: Had an injury right towards the end.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: toward the end,
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SPEAKER_01: two of our best players going to the second game of conference,
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SPEAKER_01: ankle injury and the other one that basically was shoot.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's not an excuse.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what the game is.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of unexpected.
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SPEAKER_01: You got to be ready for it.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what it is.
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For those who haven't seen you play,
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let's talk from the offensive perspective.
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SPEAKER_00: How would you describe your offensive philosophy there?
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SPEAKER_01: I think we're trying to push in transition.
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SPEAKER_01: We don't play as fast.
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SPEAKER_01: If you look at the way we play, you
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you're not going to think we play fast,
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but we're trying to get easy bucket first.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's the main goal.
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And then after that,
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if it doesn't work,
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we got to get into what we call flow.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically it goes from, obviously everything starts with defense.
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SPEAKER_01: You got to get a stop.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's where everything starts.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's be clear about it.
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SPEAKER_01: You got to get a stop.
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SPEAKER_01: And when you get a stop, you know, you can push.
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SPEAKER_01: Actually, you can push.
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SPEAKER_01: You can try to get an easy, easy bucket.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where everything starts.
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SPEAKER_01: So we go from getting a stop to some type of freedom, which is
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SPEAKER_01: If you have an advantage, let's see what we got.
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SPEAKER_01: If it's a wide-open shot, that's what we want.
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We want a wide-open look at the rim first and then a kick-out
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three if possible.
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SPEAKER_01: And then if we don't get anything,
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SPEAKER_01: then we get back to our structure,
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SPEAKER_01: which is our flow,
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SPEAKER_01: which has usually happened.
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SPEAKER_01: We're trying to push it to the elbow reversal,
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and then we get into stagger before we get into any ball screen
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or flash game,
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SPEAKER_01: as people call it.
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SPEAKER_00: As you push and transition, are they running to specific spots?
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Are you looking for anything specific or is it just get down
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the floor with good spacing?
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SPEAKER_01: So we have our lane a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically we're trying to,
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SPEAKER_01: we had the pusher,
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SPEAKER_01: the person,
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SPEAKER_01: the guard who got the ball can push it.
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SPEAKER_01: Basically he's pushing it.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we got wings, got to fill the corners.
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SPEAKER_01: Our five and our four kind of run the same lane, the middle lane.
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SPEAKER_01: But our four men is kind of,
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SPEAKER_01: it's a little different,
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SPEAKER_01: but,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: that's kind of the lane a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: The guards kind of run from the middle to the slot.
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SPEAKER_01: So trying to attack it, trying to see what it can do.
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Usually we want it to cross the court,
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trying to see if it can get to that elbow.
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We'll come back and talk about kind of the half court offense
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in just a second.
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But I went to a practice this summer of a division one team and
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there's a lot of on
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SPEAKER_00: air,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: they split guards and forwards,
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SPEAKER_00: which it was just one day.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure they don't practice this way every single day,
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but a lot of on air stuff going through their actions and that
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sort of thing.
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SPEAKER_00: How does how you all play shape those off season workouts?
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SPEAKER_01: That's a great question.
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SPEAKER_01: So you, you want to know what we're doing, basically doing practices.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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Whether it's something in the summer or even something
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preseason before you're kind
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SPEAKER_00: of like official practices start in the fall.
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So the summer,
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usually coach scary,
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trying to preach habits in the summer.
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SPEAKER_01: So we're trying to build guys habits.
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SPEAKER_01: So I practice, um,
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SPEAKER_01: our practice plan usually look the same.
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SPEAKER_01: Basically,
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we usually start with kind of a ball handling or passing where
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we got him involved
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SPEAKER_01: talking.
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SPEAKER_01: And then after that,
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SPEAKER_01: we will basically get into that protection plan,
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SPEAKER_01: which is,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're kind of aware of protection plan with Doug Novak.
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SPEAKER_01: And then we also, somebody else was using it, Mark Cassio, I believe.
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SPEAKER_01: Mark Cassio, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know, trying to get him in our protection plan.
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SPEAKER_01: We don't do, it's basically what?
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eight minute max okay but we do it to everybody we're trying to
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get into our nash
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uh you know barclay uh rando playoff two perhaps um you know
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trying to cover that
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and then from there we usually you know do some kind of we do
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um five or no
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transition back to transition defense and then we get into our
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shell usually
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SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, we got to play defense a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: And then after that,
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SPEAKER_01: we usually we start our advantage games because we believe,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the game is advantage.
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If you understand,
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you got to create an advantage to find a wide open shot.
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SPEAKER_01: It makes it way easier before we get to the sets.
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One of the things that I found with playing the way that you
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all are playing is
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that it can sometimes be difficult to balance things with your
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returning players
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SPEAKER_00: and the new guys that you have.
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How do you help the players that you have already continue to
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progress in what
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you're trying to do while also integrating those new guys who
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are just learning to
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SPEAKER_00: play within that kind of system?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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it can be difficult because the new guys they usually they have
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they have different
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identity basically you know they're going to fight stuff
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they're not used a lot of
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guys are not used to playing that way another guy don't
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understand the concept of
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advantage basically i can give you an example we play a game
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four versus three five
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SPEAKER_01: versus four
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SPEAKER_01: So usually one is four versus three.
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SPEAKER_01: You can,
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if you have the ball in the slot and you have two corner fill
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and you have the two
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SPEAKER_01: slot fill,
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SPEAKER_01: you can basically recognize the advantage if you look at it,
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SPEAKER_01: but not everybody can see it.
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SPEAKER_01: So you can see from the start, you can see some guys are going to pass.
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They're going to pass to the two sides where the advantage is
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supposed to be two on one.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of that you have to teach them.
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SPEAKER_01: You have to train their eye to see that.
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SPEAKER_01: The advantage side of it because they don't.
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SPEAKER_01: Some of them never did it before.
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So and then all the guys can see and they can kind of,
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you know,
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help the coaching.
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SPEAKER_01: you know, help us with the new guys.
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SPEAKER_01: Also, they can tell them, listen, you can't throw that ball over there.
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SPEAKER_01: Why are we doing it?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: This is the side of the advantage.
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SPEAKER_01: So it kind of teaches them, you know, how to see things.
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I think it's an advantage having the older guys because they
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kind of understand the
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SPEAKER_01: system and they can help with the new guys.
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SPEAKER_01: But also you're going to have,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: those,
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SPEAKER_01: those guys going to fight it a little bit because they're not used to it.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, and they're learning.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's part of the, it's part of the process.
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SPEAKER_00: Were you there before you all started playing this way?
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SPEAKER_01: I've been here for... I'm going to year seven, I believe.
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SPEAKER_01: But I was not an assistant coach.
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SPEAKER_01: I was the video guy for...
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SPEAKER_01: I was a director,
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SPEAKER_01: student athlete development for...
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SPEAKER_00: And have they always played with that flow game?
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SPEAKER_01: No, I think we switched it up.
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SPEAKER_01: We switched up flow, I think, two years ago, I believe.
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SPEAKER_00: So let me ask this.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like the players themselves,
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SPEAKER_00: especially the returning guys,
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have been better about teaching to the new guys because they
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understand concepts?
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SPEAKER_00: Has it made them better teachers themselves?
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: They understand it.
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SPEAKER_01: They know what's going on.
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So you can kind of see,
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I think,
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one of the practices we had a game where we put
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the older guy versus the new guys and the score was like 20-0
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right from the jump.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Just because they understand it.
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SPEAKER_01: The other group kind of still learning it and it's a process.
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SPEAKER_01: It is what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: So they can kind of see it.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, when you understand it, it makes things easier.
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And that's two of the things that I first coaches that want to
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play this way.
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I have found that like it's made my players,
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especially the older guys,
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better teachers.
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SPEAKER_00: And it becomes our offense rather than the coach's offense.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's all memorize these actions or whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: Then let's throw them out there.
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And then when the actions don't work well,
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whatever,
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we'll try to find some new actions.
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But like the players take owner,
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like this is our offense,
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you know,
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do this the right way.
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SPEAKER_00: And exactly what you said.
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SPEAKER_00: So much of it is just teaching like where to look.
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yeah because i think so many of them are coming in having
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memorized plays and so
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they're not thinking about like bringing in information looking
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at information
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bringing it in analyzing it and then making decisions off of
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that it sounds so
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obvious but it's still so foreign i think to so many players
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it's crazy um it's
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SPEAKER_01: hard too because you know kids you know you know
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SPEAKER_01: We all, as coaches, we all have different philosophies.
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SPEAKER_01: So,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: when a kid comes from high school,
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SPEAKER_01: you don't know what his high school philosophy coach was using before.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: It can be,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: it's a little hard,
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SPEAKER_01: but when they get here,
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SPEAKER_01: we got to make sure they understand that this is what we're looking for.
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SPEAKER_01: If we have an advantage, we don't need to run the play.
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SPEAKER_01: If you have an advantage, it's an advantage.
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You might not have the best that wide open shot that you have
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SPEAKER_00: When we say playing out of concepts,
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SPEAKER_00: I think coaches think that if you're going to play this way,
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SPEAKER_00: there's some list somewhere that has all these concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody does those same concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: If we run flex, we all set down screens and cross screens.
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SPEAKER_00: If we play out of concepts, we all do the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: That's not really the case.
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SPEAKER_00: What are you all there doing?
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SPEAKER_00: What are your favorite concepts, your favorite actions, and why?
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SPEAKER_01: Personally, I feel like
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SPEAKER_01: You just need to understand it's a read game.
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SPEAKER_01: That's all it is.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a read game.
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SPEAKER_01: They got to understand when we push the ball,
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SPEAKER_01: we're trying to have an advantage because the other team is running.
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SPEAKER_01: They're running back on defense.
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SPEAKER_01: This is hard for them to run back.
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SPEAKER_01: If we have a number advantage, we've got to take care of it.
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SPEAKER_01: If we have a size advantage, we have to post.
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SPEAKER_01: We've got to drive the switch.
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Like Coach Carey said,
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we've got to drive the switch or post the switch,
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basically.
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SPEAKER_01: So it makes it kind of easier that way.
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SPEAKER_01: this is what we're looking for first.
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SPEAKER_01: When we get back to the structure,
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SPEAKER_01: which is flow,
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SPEAKER_01: it's now we got to move the ball,
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SPEAKER_01: we get into a stagger.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, during a stagger, if we have an advantage, that's it.
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SPEAKER_01: Now we got a small advantage,
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SPEAKER_01: we got to create a bigger advantage,
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SPEAKER_01: and we got to find the waterproof shot.
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SPEAKER_01: That's basically what it is.
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So at the end of the day,
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it usually goes from freedom to structure to freedom again.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's basically what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: And it can be just a mismatch in a post, which gives us an advantage.
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SPEAKER_01: And then from there,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: we have one of our,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: our best post guy,
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SPEAKER_01: Cam Holden,
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SPEAKER_01: our foreman.
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SPEAKER_01: He's not really a foreman because he led us with a ball screen.
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SPEAKER_01: Ball screen usage.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of, it's different.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you get a mismatch,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: he can pass it and find a wide open shot to a corner,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: to a shoot on the corner.
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SPEAKER_00: And when you say stagger,
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we're not talking about just like two pin downs and a guy just
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runs straight off of
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SPEAKER_00: it every time,
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SPEAKER_00: right?
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SPEAKER_01: No, it's literally a reversal.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, let's say, if I can explain it, is we got a rim runner.
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SPEAKER_01: If when you get a rim runner, you got a trailer.
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So one of the guard,
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the pusher,
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basically got to attack one of the other on the reversal.
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SPEAKER_01: The point guard and the forward who is on top basically set it.
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SPEAKER_01: set a stagger and then the guys coming up the corner can read it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I can reject it.
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SPEAKER_01: I can curl it.
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SPEAKER_01: I can go straight up, you know, and that's basically what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's at the end of the day, it's a read.
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SPEAKER_00: So there becomes, I mean, the structure is just like this.
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SPEAKER_00: Cause I think maybe some coaches will think like, well, there's freedom.
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SPEAKER_00: And then we come down and run a structured set play.
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SPEAKER_00: And if that doesn't work, then we go back to freedom and that's not it.
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SPEAKER_00: Like they know what they're going to do with that first step.
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action with that stagger but even within that there's freedom
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based upon how the
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defense is playing them and that sort of thing absolutely so if
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you don't from
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there if you don't get anything let's say the guy came on top
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he used a stagger
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SPEAKER_01: came on top he didn't have anything
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SPEAKER_01: And if we got,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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we have our five men might come set a ball screen and then we
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go from there,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and then we can.
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SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it can be different.
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SPEAKER_01: If the guy curling,
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SPEAKER_01: let's say curling the stagger,
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SPEAKER_01: end up on the other side,
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SPEAKER_01: it's going to give you a different look if the big is setting the screen.
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What if he curl and go back to the same side and still give you
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another look?
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SPEAKER_01: So it's really not, you know, it's kind of different if you look at it.
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SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of teams that play out of concepts.
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SPEAKER_00: They sometimes struggle with turnovers.
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And I know you all have really low,
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ranked really low with live ball turnovers.
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Anything in particular that you feel has helped keep those
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turnover numbers down?
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SPEAKER_01: I think our protection plans.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's one of the biggest things, you know, protection plan.
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SPEAKER_01: They got to understand the Nash.
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SPEAKER_01: You got to understand when in doubt, you got to keep a balance.
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SPEAKER_01: Basically, slow down.
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You don't have to make a decision below the free throw line
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because you drive it.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean you have to jump in the air trying to figure it out.
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SPEAKER_01: No, just if you end up, take a bounce.
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SPEAKER_01: If you don't like it, you know, I'm driving.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
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SPEAKER_01: I can buckle it and then play from there.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, if the chest is in front of me, I can pro hop it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, sometimes the pro can give you a kick out pass.
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You know,
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so it's kind of I feel like that's that's been one of the
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biggest thing we added.
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SPEAKER_01: you know, protection plan, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And then Coach Kerry usually say, you got to follow our training.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, at the end of the day, that's the number one.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: Usually when we warm up and everything,
15:27
SPEAKER_01: we get some passing drill,
15:28
SPEAKER_01: we get straight into protection plan.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, that's what help us not turn the ball over.
15:34
But also during practices,
15:35
we get,
15:36
um,
15:37
we got,
15:38
we,
15:38
we,
15:38
we got six different basketball.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: We get two teams.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: You got a gold ball and a black ball.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: So,
15:43
SPEAKER_01: um,
15:44
SPEAKER_01: you know,
15:45
SPEAKER_01: you get three turnovers after three turnovers,
15:46
SPEAKER_01: it's a punishment,
15:47
SPEAKER_01: you know,
15:48
SPEAKER_01: not,
15:48
SPEAKER_01: you don't call it punishment,
15:49
SPEAKER_01: but,
15:50
SPEAKER_01: you know,
15:52
SPEAKER_01: so yeah,
15:53
SPEAKER_01: you,
15:53
SPEAKER_01: you,
15:54
SPEAKER_01: you,
15:54
SPEAKER_01: you,
15:54
SPEAKER_01: you,
15:54
SPEAKER_01: you gotta do something.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: So, um,
15:57
SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of, you know, kind of reinforced that a little bit.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's not okay to turn the ball over, you know.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: And last year, we kind of implemented it like a Celtic game.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: It was a five-minute game.
16:09
SPEAKER_01: We played a five-minute game.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: As soon as we turn the ball over, we lose the game.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you know, you can't you cannot turn the ball over.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: You can't you can't do it.
16:25
And even this year,
16:26
I don't know what I was listening to somebody,
16:30
an NBA coach.
16:31
They were talking about the ranking of shots and they kind of
16:35
did it a little bit
16:36
SPEAKER_01: like the Olympics.
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So the gold medal was,
16:40
you know,
16:40
a shot at the rim or get to the free throw line.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: That's the high percentage shot.
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The second best shot was,
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you know,
16:47
the quality look three,
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usually a driving kick three.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: And then the first one is the gold medal.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: The second one was the silver medal.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: And the third one was, which is a no pain, no three shots.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: At the end of the day, you got to take that.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: But the most important thing there was,
17:03
SPEAKER_01: You know, at the end of the day, we got to have a medal.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: We need a medal.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: Like you can't, you know, if you turn the ball over, there's no medal.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: You didn't get a gold, you didn't get a silver, you didn't get a bronze.
17:14
SPEAKER_01: So at the end of the day, that's what it is, you know?
17:17
So we kind of implement that a little bit so they kind of
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understand the concept behind it.
17:23
SPEAKER_01: Like we want a gold medal.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's okay.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: We shoot for the gold medal.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: That's our goal.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we didn't get a gold.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: We go for the silver.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: We didn't get a silver, but we go to the bronze.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: But that's it.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: We don't want to turn it over.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: If you turn it over, there's no metal for us.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
17:40
SPEAKER_00: I've talked to several coaches,
17:42
and it seems the ones who have teams that do well of keeping
17:46
turnovers down
17:47
emphasize how important the ball is and not turning it over by
17:52
various ways,
17:53
SPEAKER_00: like you just mentioned,
17:54
SPEAKER_00: so that they understand the concept in different ways.
17:58
I guess what I'm saying is it's more than just saying,
18:00
like,
18:00
we can't turn the ball over.
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SPEAKER_00: And I felt like as a young coach, and I've heard other coaches say,
18:04
SPEAKER_00: Like we all get frustrated at that and we all know it's a bad thing.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: Like the players know it's a bad thing, too.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: It's not like they're trying to.
18:11
But you give them a solution,
18:13
you know,
18:13
with your protection plan,
18:15
with your Nash's.
18:15
And I found that most of our turnovers came off of we're
18:19
attacking places that don't have space.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Things like single gaps or driving into double teams,
18:25
SPEAKER_00: just stupid stuff,
18:27
SPEAKER_00: but stuff that they're not recognizing.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:29
or they forfeit their dribble early and your protection play
18:34
and stuff with your
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Nash's and your Barkley's allow them to continue that dribble.
18:39
Whereas a lot of times we pick it up and then there's a
18:42
deflection or bad angle on
18:43
SPEAKER_00: a pass or that kind of thing.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: Have you found that to be true?
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: I feel like just using them kind of,
18:50
SPEAKER_01: first of all,
18:51
SPEAKER_01: it slowed the game down for them because,
18:54
SPEAKER_01: you know,
18:54
SPEAKER_01: let's take an example of the Nash.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm attacking, you know, um,
18:59
SPEAKER_01: under the fertile line, underneath the fertile line, I go through it.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: If, when in doubt, I don't have anything, I'm not stopping the dribble.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: So I keep that bounce, keep that bounce, keep that bounce.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: And usually,
19:10
SPEAKER_01: that's where,
19:10
SPEAKER_01: when you go under the baseline,
19:12
SPEAKER_01: that's where miscommunication happens with the defense.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: They might leave you open or they might leave your big man open.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: So because somebody got to help,
19:20
SPEAKER_01: You know,
19:20
SPEAKER_01: when you get to where you get,
19:22
SPEAKER_01: we call it the red zone,
19:23
SPEAKER_01: when you get into the red zone,
19:24
SPEAKER_01: somebody,
19:25
SPEAKER_01: the defense collapsed.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: So somebody got to help.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: And also, if somebody falls asleep, somebody can cut.
19:32
SPEAKER_01: You know,
19:32
SPEAKER_01: it's kind of,
19:33
SPEAKER_01: you know,
19:33
SPEAKER_01: I feel like this year we're trying to add,
19:35
SPEAKER_01: we're trying to add a little bit in our protection plan.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: We call it blind cut.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: Basically, if you see the back of the head, you got to go.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, so it kind of helped that too.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
19:47
So from there,
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it give them,
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you know,
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that's basically two options in one play.
19:54
Basically I drove,
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you know,
19:56
I use my Nash and then somebody turned their head,
19:59
somebody cut.
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Now you don't know that might absorb somebody else and give a
20:04
kick out three.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
20:06
So it's kind of,
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I feel like it's been really beneficial for us using those.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: You mentioned like the red zone.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: And for you all, I know that's like a practical application of analytics.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: How do you use analytics to help your players understand the game?
20:24
SPEAKER_01: No, absolutely.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: They know what's a high percentage shot.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: They know we're not trying to take those long tools.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we want to obviously some guys are really good at it.
20:36
You know,
20:36
that's where the analytics doesn't tell you that sometimes some
20:40
guys are good at it.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: So what you going to do?
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Nah, let him shoot it.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: You know,
20:45
SPEAKER_01: so but we know that,
20:46
SPEAKER_01: you know,
20:46
SPEAKER_01: when some guys are good at it,
20:48
SPEAKER_01: you got to let them take it.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: But for us, from the jump, it's not a high percent of shot.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: You know, but if a guy is long twosies his shot, we got to let him do it.
20:59
What are the things that are the most important when it comes
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to your analytics?
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If I were to ask your guys,
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what are the most important things outside of the shot
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selection?
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SPEAKER_00: What are they going to tell me for your offense?
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SPEAKER_01: One of the biggest thing is spacing, definitely.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: We want the proper.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: If you create an advantage with a bad spacing, it's not going to work.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: So we basically usually start the spacing got to be great.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: So we want a good spacing because if you have a bad spacing,
21:31
SPEAKER_01: if one defender can got two offensive players,
21:33
SPEAKER_01: you're a disadvantage already.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: Even if you create the advantage.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: So they got to understand the spacing got to be right.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: Spacing always got to be right.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: And then from there, we got to create an advantage.
21:45
And when we created an advantage,
21:47
and from there,
21:47
we got to find a wide upper shot.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: And a wide upper shot for us is what?
21:52
SPEAKER_01: You got to be open.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: You got to be on balance.
21:56
And you got to be our range,
21:57
which is your range and my range can be totally different.
22:02
You know,
22:02
you might be,
22:03
you might shoot,
22:03
you might shoot it from the logo.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: I might not,
22:07
SPEAKER_01: you know,
22:07
SPEAKER_01: like they,
22:08
SPEAKER_01: they kind of trying to make sure they understand that,
22:12
SPEAKER_01: you know,
22:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean,
22:12
SPEAKER_01: the,
22:13
The only basically contested shot we want to give them from the
22:16
jump is the hook
22:17
SPEAKER_01: shot,
22:18
SPEAKER_01: which is usually it's hard to block a hook shot,
22:20
SPEAKER_01: unbalanced hook shot.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how many people can block that.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Do you all use set plays at all?
22:28
SPEAKER_00: And if so, when?
22:29
SPEAKER_01: No, we use set play, dead ball situation, three toes.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: even on make some time,
22:37
SPEAKER_01: depend what we want to,
22:39
SPEAKER_01: if we see somebody has an advantage,
22:41
SPEAKER_01: we can definitely,
22:41
SPEAKER_01: you know,
22:42
SPEAKER_01: call a set play from there.
22:43
And then let's say we're going to post up,
22:45
you know,
22:46
child Thompson,
22:47
you got an advantage.
22:48
We will call a set and just trying to get in the ball in the
22:50
post and let him go.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Only real.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, main purpose, just to exploit some sort of advantage.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: We can run our flow sometime.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh,
23:03
our best player at that time,
23:04
they don't touch the ball as much as possible.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
23:07
So kind of slow it down a little bit and then run a set where
23:10
we're going to
23:10
SPEAKER_01: utilize them,
23:12
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:12
SPEAKER_01: if they have an advantage,
23:13
SPEAKER_01: if we think that advantage is favorable for us.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, we can kind of control it that way.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: With the flow,
23:21
SPEAKER_01: it's kind of,
23:22
SPEAKER_01: we can control it too with our flow because we can,
23:24
SPEAKER_01: our flow,
23:25
SPEAKER_01: we kind of do different things out of it.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: We can post up as well.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: But with the set, you can kind of,
23:31
basically control it the way you want you know the ball would
23:34
go here and then we
23:35
play from there or we want to you know back doors for somebody
23:40
you know this is
23:41
your episode but i'll just throw this in because you you said
23:43
something that made
23:44
me think about something but one thing that we were able to use
23:47
last year was
23:49
SPEAKER_00: almost to use a set play as like a momentum changer
23:54
So instead of calling that timeout,
23:56
we were able to,
23:58
hey,
23:58
stop,
23:59
slow down for a second.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Let's call a set play.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: And then it did exactly what you just said.
24:05
Like I was able to get the ball into the hands or exploit a
24:08
mismatch that sometimes
24:11
SPEAKER_00: our players don't see when they're just running their flow offense.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: I like that.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: I think it's basically the same thing we're doing.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: But you just said it right.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, saves me a timeout, too.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's that's what we that's what it is.
24:25
Like if we run a couple of times and then we're not getting
24:29
anything out of it or
24:29
the ball is not getting to the hands of the right guy at that
24:33
particular time,
24:34
SPEAKER_01: calling a set can kind of slow things down a little bit and then direct,
24:38
SPEAKER_01: you know,
24:38
SPEAKER_01: where the ball is going.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: Last thing I'll ask you here, where do you see this going?
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you foresee what you're building there?
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like what you have is it?
24:49
Or do you feel like there are some things that we would like to
24:52
implement within
24:53
maybe adding more concepts or digging into something you said
24:56
like this year,
24:57
SPEAKER_00: we'd like to just a few seconds ago.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: So do you,
25:00
do you see those something or have you seen something that you
25:04
would like to kind
25:05
SPEAKER_00: of integrate into the way that you all run flow?
25:09
SPEAKER_01: No, I feel like the game evolves.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: So we don't really – we're not set with it.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, we're still learning.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: If there's something that,
25:20
SPEAKER_01: you know,
25:20
SPEAKER_01: we're watching a game or,
25:23
SPEAKER_01: you know,
25:23
SPEAKER_01: we're on Twitter or we like something and it will make sense for us,
25:27
SPEAKER_01: absolutely,
25:27
SPEAKER_01: we're at it.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: We're not set into something, you know, we're not.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: Definitely not.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: We're trying to evolve.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: We're always trying to evolve if you want to put it that way.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Always.
25:39
I think that's one of the advantages of playing with your
25:41
concepts is that you can
25:42
SPEAKER_00: even evolve from year to year or,
25:44
SPEAKER_00: you know,
25:44
as you get a new player in because that player has a particular
25:48
skill set.
25:49
So maybe you want to add a flare screen to something or maybe
25:52
you want to add a
25:53
SPEAKER_00: like,
25:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
25:55
SPEAKER_00: some sort of,
25:56
SPEAKER_00: you know,
25:56
SPEAKER_00: stagger screen somewhere,
25:57
SPEAKER_00: a double ball screen or something like that,
25:59
SPEAKER_00: that you maybe didn't have the year before,
26:02
SPEAKER_00: but it's not,
26:03
SPEAKER_00: you're not changing your
26:04
The advantage I feel of playing this way is you don't have to
26:06
change your offense
26:07
SPEAKER_00: every few years.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: And you even don't have to necessarily recruit to a particular style.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there is kind of you need a certain type of player.
26:19
And to your point,
26:20
like you are wanting players that can almost be positionless.
26:24
I guess the differentiating factor is a kid that's 6'11 versus
26:27
a kid that's 6'5.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: But like skill set and that kind of thing,
26:31
SPEAKER_00: you know,
26:32
SPEAKER_00: you said you're only in,
26:32
SPEAKER_00: you guys are only in like two or three,
26:34
SPEAKER_00: but,
26:34
SPEAKER_00: you know,
26:35
have you even done stuff differently over the last couple of
26:37
years based off of
26:38
SPEAKER_00: personnel?
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
26:40
We used to run,
26:41
when we started Flow,
26:42
we used to run the Euro,
26:43
how you call it,
26:45
Eurobasket?
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Euroball screen, yes.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sideball screen.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: One is rolling, one is lifting.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: We got away from it, you know, just to give you an example.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: We were like,
26:55
SPEAKER_01: nah,
26:55
SPEAKER_01: that kind of,
26:57
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:57
SPEAKER_01: that creates a lot of,
26:59
SPEAKER_01: you know,
26:59
SPEAKER_01: it can be easier to defend at some point,
27:01
SPEAKER_01: you know,
27:02
SPEAKER_01: when you look at it.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: If you basically look at it, it can be, you know.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: So we kind of got away from it and we...
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Go to 4-1 in.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of movement.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Maybe if the ball is coming to you, we can play, you know.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like that's kind of the one thing we did, you know.
27:24
And I feel like we're going to keep evolving it because there's
27:27
so much basketball
27:28
SPEAKER_01: is changing every day.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: Every day you wake up, there's something you see.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: You're like, oh, it's beautiful, you know.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: So like we say, you know, offense is an art, you know.
27:40
like you don't really know you know some people gonna people
27:44
tweak it so much like
27:45
yeah people tweak it so much that you know somebody can work up
27:50
one morning start
27:51
painting something different so you look at it you're like oh
27:54
this is that's not
27:55
the the one i like yesterday yeah so you know so that's the
27:59
beauty i feel like
28:00
SPEAKER_01: that's the beauty of our game which you want to put it that way
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: Maybe people don't know this, but coach was a hooper back in the day.
28:08
How do you feel like you would have done whether college or
28:12
because I was watching
28:13
some clips of you before this and you got a lot of buckets
28:19
within a structure that
28:21
SPEAKER_00: actually didn't give you a whole lot of space.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: You made a lot of things out of.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Nothing when it came to space.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: How would you play within something like this?
28:29
SPEAKER_00: Or did you?
28:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because you played overseas as well.
28:32
Do you feel like this is kind of stuff that they did overseas
28:35
and now we're going
28:36
SPEAKER_00: to bring it over here?
28:37
SPEAKER_01: Not particularly.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: Not that I remember.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: But I feel like I would be such a different player if we had all this.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: If I had protection plans and,
28:47
SPEAKER_01: you know,
28:48
SPEAKER_01: because I didn't have – back in the day,
28:51
SPEAKER_01: we didn't have those answers.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
28:52
SPEAKER_01: Imagine if I had that.
28:53
SPEAKER_01: I usually think to myself,
28:54
SPEAKER_01: like,
28:55
SPEAKER_01: I can imagine if I have that,
28:56
SPEAKER_01: how many more solutions I would be having just –
28:59
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:00
SPEAKER_01: playing around with the ball,
29:01
SPEAKER_01: getting there,
29:02
SPEAKER_01: give me a rondo and then elevate,
29:04
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:06
SPEAKER_01: it will be.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: So sometimes I just sit there and just think about it.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:13
How beautiful that would be if I had all these different
29:16
answers and,
29:17
you know.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Where can people connect with you on social media?
29:20
SPEAKER_00: We got to bump up your Twitter followers here.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: Twitter.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: Parfait, if you just type Parfait Bitté, they're going to find me.
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SPEAKER_01: He's at Lparfait.
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SPEAKER_00: That's Coach Parfait Bitté of the Townsend Tigers.
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SPEAKER_01: In high school,
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SPEAKER_01: they used to call me,
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SPEAKER_01: my one year high school I did in Kentucky,
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SPEAKER_00: they used to call me Biddy.
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SPEAKER_01: Biddy.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, it's Bitté.
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SPEAKER_00: It looks like Biddy, but it's Bitté.
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SPEAKER_01: Bitté, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: That's great.
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SPEAKER_00: Coach, thanks again for taking the time to come on the podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you having me.