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Deborah Perdue - Spiritual Practitioner · Divas That Care Network

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SPEAKER_01: Hello to all.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Divas That Care Network.
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SPEAKER_01: I am Joyce Banning, and I will be your host for this invigorating, robust lifestyle show.
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SPEAKER_01: First, I want to take the time to thank each one of our listeners who have tuned in live today and all of them that will be listening to the recording on the podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: I am just so very grateful for each one of you.
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SPEAKER_01: And you are all in for a very special treat today as I have with me a returning diva, Deborah Perdue.
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SPEAKER_01: And she is a spiritual practitioner.
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SPEAKER_01: It is one of the many things that she does in her life.
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SPEAKER_01: And today we are going to have a chat about her spiritual practitioner and what all of that means for her.
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SPEAKER_01: So, Deborah, could you please introduce yourself to the listeners today?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Hi, everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Deborah Perdue, and I'm an author of gratitude books.
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SPEAKER_01: I have a book design business, and I also am a licensed practitioner for the Centers for Spiritual Living, and I love all that I do, as Joyce said.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, how beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, you have a well-rounded life of all different kind of aspects of what you do, and I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: That is so awesome.
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UNKNOWN: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, like we said today, we're going to talk about being a spiritual practitioner.
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SPEAKER_01: And you said you are at the Centers for Spiritual Living.
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SPEAKER_01: What exactly do you all...
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SPEAKER_01: What all does that entail that you would like to share with the listeners today about being a spiritual practitioner with the Centers for Spiritual Living?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So the Centers for Spiritual Living are a very open...
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SPEAKER_01: and warm and loving set of centers, and I've attended several in my life, starting in Santa Rosa, California.
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SPEAKER_01: And we honor Jesus Christ, and we also honor the various different religions of the world, because our founder, Ernest Holmes, found that there's common threads within all the different spiritual paths, and he kind of combined them into a big...
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SPEAKER_01: textbook and he also has shorter books which I enjoy more and it's just served me so well.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been in the Centers for Spiritual Living for over 20 years and I became a practitioner about 14 years ago and it's never let me down.
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SPEAKER_01: I just love the philosophy and the spirituality of what the centers are.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, my goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you have been involved in it for quite some time.
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SPEAKER_01: Goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Fourteen years as a practitioner and 20 years altogether being involved.
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SPEAKER_01: What may I ask?
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SPEAKER_01: Was there a certain moment in your life that made you want to get involved into being into the spiritual aspect of the world?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: So, actually, I've always been spiritual, even as a young girl, but I didn't really get involved in anything that spoke so much to my heart as the Centers for Spiritual Living.
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SPEAKER_01: I've done the Course in Miracles twice, and I started out as a Catholic little girl, but it really bugged me when the teaching said that other religions would go to hell.
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SPEAKER_01: I just couldn't believe that, that part of the world, you know, wouldn't be going to heaven like the Catholics.
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SPEAKER_01: So that didn't resonate with me.
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SPEAKER_01: I took a break from religion for a really long time.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I walked into the doors of the centers, I just felt like I am home.
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SPEAKER_01: These people get me and they feel like I do.
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SPEAKER_01: And it took a divorce my first year.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow, that was a real aha moment and the joy that you felt in your heart.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, my goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: You were listening to your heart.
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SPEAKER_01: Your heart was telling you this is where you need to be is how I would take that.
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SPEAKER_01: And that is just beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: What a beautiful experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, my goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm so glad I finally listened to the friends.
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SPEAKER_01: It took several years, but I finally listened and went.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, sometimes it takes some, just some, you weren't, I always feel you weren't quite ready until that time is how I look at it.
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SPEAKER_01: The universe knew.
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SPEAKER_01: They were planting seeds for you.
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SPEAKER_01: And then when the timing was right, you knew where you needed to go.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: It may not have resonated quite as well if you'd have gone earlier before that time.
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SPEAKER_01: And this time, it was just what you needed.
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SPEAKER_01: And that is just beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, what is so beautiful now...
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SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: What I feel that you're probably doing as a practitioner...
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SPEAKER_01: Now you are getting help, helping people to experience that joy that you felt when you first walked into that center when you were needing some people like that in your life.
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SPEAKER_01: Is this kind of how you feel as being a practitioner?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So we practitioners are part of the healing arm of the ministry really now.
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SPEAKER_01: at the centers and what I do is I do different things but one of them is I pray for people when they ask we don't pray for people unless we have their permission which I think is really great and we serve at the center like once a month or so I'm on the pulpit and I do invocations and I do meditations and I present to the congregation and And then I also teach spiritual classes because to become a practitioner, I had to take all these classes.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I love teaching and I love helping other people learn about our movement because it's very empowering.
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SPEAKER_01: One of the slogans is change your thinking, change your life.
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SPEAKER_01: And I feel like, you know, like everyone kind of knows that more in spiritual realms nowadays, right?
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SPEAKER_01: But Ernest Holmes thought of that a long, long time ago.
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SPEAKER_01: And so we help people change their thinking and change their life and become more positive.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I love helping other people in those kind of ways.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is beautiful, to change their life into a more positive way.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: What better way to be helping people and bringing that positive energy into the world than especially now, especially all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, a lot of people are going through some difficult times with everything happening in the world and just changing and knowing you're there to help them to change it to a better life and to be able to feel that positivity in their life.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's incredible.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: That is really neat.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, You were, before we came on, you were telling me that you are actually going to speak on a topic.
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SPEAKER_01: Is it this month yet?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: On Sunday, November 27th, I'll be the guest speaker instead of our minister.
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SPEAKER_01: And I've done it a couple times before.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to be speaking.
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SPEAKER_01: The theme for the Centers for Spiritual Living this month is homelessness.
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SPEAKER_01: And so it's about home is where your heart is, but also I'll talk about other things having to do with that.
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SPEAKER_01: And I feel really good about speaking this coming.
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SPEAKER_01: It'll be on Zoom and it'll also be in person on Sunday, November 27th at 10.30 a.m.
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SPEAKER_01: Pacific time.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, we're a global organization.
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SPEAKER_01: I have a global audience.
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SPEAKER_01: So how can they get the Zoom link if they say, oh, man, this is something I really would like to listen to?
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SPEAKER_01: What is the way that they can connect with you to get the Zoom link for that talk on Home is Where Your Heart Is?
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: So me too.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think that I'm going to give my phone number out, but obviously international people wouldn't.
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SPEAKER_01: want to call me, but the number is 541-862-7021.
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SPEAKER_01: And then there's also email, which is dpurdue, and we spell it P-E-R-D-U-E, at graceofgratitude.com.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, what a beautiful email address, Grace of Gratitude.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, my goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, these centers, are they all over the world, or are they just in the United States, or how far out have they reached?
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SPEAKER_01: They are all over the United States primarily, but they're also international.
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SPEAKER_01: And we do have centers like, I believe we have one in Ukraine, actually, and we have them in Mexico.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: And so the textbooks and all the books have been translated to Spanish and other languages as well.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's definitely all over the world but centered in the United States.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, how neat.
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SPEAKER_01: Now you said you also teach classes.
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SPEAKER_01: Are these done in person?
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SPEAKER_01: Are they done Zoom?
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SPEAKER_01: How are they done?
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SPEAKER_01: They are, when I teach for the center, they're often in person.
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SPEAKER_01: During COVID, we did them on Zoom, though, as well.
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SPEAKER_01: And I also have other classes that I teach all on my own where I have people from my gratitude list that sign up.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I've taught Zoom spiritual classes since COVID.
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SPEAKER_01: Quite a few of them, and we call ourselves the sojourners instead of sojourners, S-O-U-L-journers.
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SPEAKER_01: And I have some devoted people that take all my classes online, and I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: So we study different amazing books.
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SPEAKER_01: Like we've studied Michael A.
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SPEAKER_01: Singer's books, and we've studied Pema Chodron, and just everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: I think we've studied one of Wayne Dyer's books and a Michael Beckwith book, Spiritual Liberation.
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SPEAKER_01: So we meet once a week and we talk about the books and I give them study questions and stuff and sometimes there's videos, etc.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's really great.
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SPEAKER_01: I love to do that.
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SPEAKER_01: I love teaching.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can tell.
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SPEAKER_01: I can tell by the energy in your voice.
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SPEAKER_01: You absolutely love what you're doing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's coming from the heart is where it's coming from.
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SPEAKER_01: You're humble about it and you love it.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what makes it so beautiful and makes it so meaningful.
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SPEAKER_01: That is, oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: That's incredible.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, if they would like to take classes just from you, is it your same email address?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it would be the same.
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UNKNOWN: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And also, let me just say that I have the Grace of Gratitude website, which they can go to, and they can click to receive daily emails if they want to of thoughts of gratitude.
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SPEAKER_01: But they could also click and then just ask me questions about the Zoom classes.
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SPEAKER_01: So that email is actually info at graceofgratitude.com, and the website is www.graceofgratitude.com.
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SPEAKER_01: And my books are there, too.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, perfect, perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: That gives them so many different ways to connect with you and gratitude.
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SPEAKER_01: Gratitude just comes right into play with the spirituality, with all of it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a full circle web is how I look at it.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: That is so neat.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just so excited.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, as a spiritual practitioner, how...
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SPEAKER_01: Do you feel each person has their own spiritual journey and spirituality means something different?
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SPEAKER_01: Or do you feel there's a general meaning for spirituality?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I love about the Centers for Spiritual Living because you can actually be Jewish and be part of our center.
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SPEAKER_01: Like we don't, Ernest Holmes always said, take what you have.
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SPEAKER_01: what means a lot to you from these teachings and don't take some of it.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's no dogma whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_01: And people do have their own spiritual paths and we honor everybody's spiritual path no matter where they are on it.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love that about our teachings.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is great.
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SPEAKER_01: So if they're a beginner and just starting to explore into what spirituality means for them and They are welcome if they're a seasoned person that's been involved in their spiritual journey for years and they're involved, that you accept them.
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SPEAKER_01: And it sounds like the religion is not part of it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's spirituality and not religion-based.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, it's just all-inclusive.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that's a big difference between some of the traditional religions and our movement.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just, it's...
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SPEAKER_01: It honors all the different spiritual paths, and that means a lot to me as a person.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
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SPEAKER_01: That definitely does.
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SPEAKER_01: That way you're not eliminating anybody.
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SPEAKER_01: You're open arms for people that are wanting to find out more about spirituality or go enriching and deepen the one that they have already started on and different ways to share.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm on the website, and just what we were talking about, deep, rich, spiritual discussion.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, my goodness, that's just what we talked about.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the other thing I want to say, I just want to add this, Joyce, is a lot of people know what unity is, and we're sister organizations to unity.
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SPEAKER_01: It's very much similar to the unity movement.
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SPEAKER_01: So I thought that it's called New Thought, and I thought that a lot of people probably know what unity is, even if they don't know what Center for Spiritual Living is.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't you think that's helpful?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: That's very helpful.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love that you brought that up, because to me that just shows even more how you are...
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SPEAKER_01: Combining it all and unity.
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SPEAKER_01: When I think of unity, I think of the whole world coming together in unity in every way.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, the unity spiritual movement, I mean, their name says it all.
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SPEAKER_01: I wish ours was named unity because it's perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: That's a perfect name for what we believe.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
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UNKNOWN: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I think of unity, and this is just my mind thinking too, but I mean, when I think of unity, I think of a full circle web of animals, of nature.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: The beautiful...
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SPEAKER_01: the beautiful outdoors, everything, the wild animals, the domesticated.
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SPEAKER_01: I bring them all in to with the humans and how we have all formed.
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SPEAKER_01: We can all form a web of life in unity and enjoy the spirituality that you can receive from one another.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: That's perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's how I think of it when I look at it because I...
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SPEAKER_01: I've experienced so much spirituality through my animals and through nature.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where I feel the closest to my spiritual being is outside in nature.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's just magical is how I put it.
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SPEAKER_01: And so to me, that's the full circle realm of everything is bringing it all together.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I live out in the country.
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SPEAKER_01: with trees all around us in the forest.
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SPEAKER_01: And I, every single day, when I come outside and go across to my office here, I just give thanks for the beauty of nature.
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SPEAKER_01: And we have creatures all over this property, deer and rabbits and jackrabbits and squirrels who try to eat the bird's feed.
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SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I totally agree.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that unity...
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SPEAKER_01: It's the unity of everything.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what the Centers for Spiritual Living are all about, really.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is incredible that there is a place like that where people can feel welcome and can feel that it's a full web of life is what they're starting into, what they're stepping into, really.
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SPEAKER_01: And the neat thing is people with like-mindedness like minds but yet all have their own individual spiritual journey coming together yes and so many people have told me newcomers to the center that they just get tears in their eyes like I did when they come because it's like I'm going to be accepted here people I have they're like minded you know it's one thing I want to talk about was the peace song we do at the end of every almost every service and Yes, there is peace on earth, and yes, it begins with me, and we all hold hands and sing it in a circle.
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SPEAKER_01: And the funny thing is, when I was in Santa Rosa, California, I made sure there were Centers for Spiritual Living when I moved up to Southern Oregon, but I didn't know they all sing the peace song.
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SPEAKER_01: And when I got to the new one...
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SPEAKER_01: We all got in a circle and sang that, and I was like, oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_01: It was so beautiful, you know, and it is beautiful to sing that song for peace.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: That is so beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: You end it, it sounds like you end the session in unity.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you're holding hands, you're all coming together, and that is beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: It would touch everyone's heart because they know they're not alone.
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SPEAKER_01: Their problems or whatever they are bringing, they have someone right next to them to help them.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that too.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, how neat.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I just think, and I was also on the side, another thing that I thought was really neat was the purpose to awaken humanity to a spiritual magnificence.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, isn't that so true?
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SPEAKER_01: Because like I said, it's magical.
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SPEAKER_01: It's magnificent.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's a spiritual journey is just, It's beautiful, definitely beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: This is really exciting what all you are doing, Deb.
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SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
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SPEAKER_01: You are so welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: What are some other aspects about your spiritual living or the spiritual living circle that you're involved in that you would like to share with our listeners today?
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SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, one thing, you talking about the spiritual magnificence that was on the website.
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SPEAKER_01: We believe that everybody is magnificent within.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course, there's people who do shootings and stuff like that, but we believe that they don't understand that we're all connected, and that means connected all of nature and all of the animals and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: So we really are into fostering people finding out their spiritual magnificence because every single person, I mean, I believe every single person has a memoir in them.
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SPEAKER_01: Every person's life is amazing, you know, really.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I think that's a big part of it is just really honoring everybody's creativity because everyone's creative in certain ways.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, maybe someone's a bookkeeper, but they're great at math.
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SPEAKER_01: That's creative.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm not that way.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: We just like to bring out the spiritual magnificence in every person.
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SPEAKER_01: And I love to, too.
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SPEAKER_01: And another thing that people probably should know is that practitioners, licensed practitioners, went through about four years of study.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of like getting a BA, a bachelor's.
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SPEAKER_01: degree we studied all these basic spiritual we took spiritual classes that everybody can take and then we went to two more years of becoming a practitioner lessons and so it's very you know I did a lot of work and spiritual work and emotional work on myself to heal you know that's what they really help us do and so also I offer spiritual counseling and individually, and the same different email addresses and the website could get them there if someone is interested in spiritual counseling.
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SPEAKER_01: It lasts about an hour, and it is a paid consultation, and I help people just get over either obstacles that they're dealing with, challenges, or just to become more spiritually magnificent.
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SPEAKER_01: So I love to do that as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, Deborah, that's beautiful because what comes to my mind, now you have touched everyone because...
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SPEAKER_01: Some people are like, well, I'm not ready to be in a full circle group.
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SPEAKER_01: I would like more of a one-on-one situation to help me to maybe work through some of what I'm dealing with or maybe to help me understand my spiritual magnificent a little bit better before I'm ready for the group.
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SPEAKER_01: And you have now made that stepping stone for them where you will be with them on a one-to-one basis via Zoom or if they're in your Oregon area However, probably Zoom works the best.
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SPEAKER_01: And phone calls.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, and phone calls, just chatting with them and helping them realize that to make them be able to make the next step to share that they have a spiritual magnificent to share with the world.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: That's incredible.
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SPEAKER_01: That is really neat, too.
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SPEAKER_01: I had no idea that you were doing one-on-ones like that also.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's very, I love to help other people like that in that way.
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SPEAKER_01: And I've watched a few people that did spiritual counseling with me, like say for six times.
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SPEAKER_01: And I suggested a few things and they listened wholeheartedly and they did it.
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SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden they don't feel the need to talk to me anymore and they're just on their beautiful way, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I just love that.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: It's very fulfilling.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can tell.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: I can tell.
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SPEAKER_01: It's coming from your heart.
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SPEAKER_01: You love every moment of what you're doing, whether it's a one-on-one or whether it's in a group session.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: It's all very meaningful.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is your talents and you are using these spiritual talents to help others.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: And that is so beautiful because I truly believe we are all given talents.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: It's just letting them shine and not let the world...
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SPEAKER_01: the programmed world gum us down so we do not let those beautiful talents shine that we have inside of us.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree completely.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, how beautiful.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, Deborah, this has gone way too quickly today, which I knew it would just fly by like it always does.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: And I would like to ask, do you have one little final tip you would like to leave with our listeners today?
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Let me think for a minute here.
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SPEAKER_01: Just that no matter where they've been, they can transform their lives in magnificent ways.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: And that...
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Let's mention the CSL website too, CSL.org, because there's places all over the world and in the United States that they could get involved with.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: But really, just that they don't need to be held back by...
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SPEAKER_01: things they need to heal, that they can be brought to healing through the teachings that I know about.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'd love to share about that anytime with anyone.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, how beautiful, Deborah.
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SPEAKER_01: I so appreciate you being on my show.
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SPEAKER_01: And I will ask, I would love to have you back in the new coming years so you can share more of what you're doing.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: So I would love for you to be back on.
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UNKNOWN: Thank you.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: You're the best.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, thank you so much.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: You are so welcome.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: You're so much fun to chat with.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, Debra, you just have a magical, magnificent day, and thank you so much for everything that you are contributing out in this world.
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SPEAKER_01: It is absolutely beautiful because it comes from the heart.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: Thank you again.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: You are welcome.
27:47
SPEAKER_01: And I want to thank all of our listeners for this absolutely incredible interview chat that you just listened to with an amazing, amazing diva, Deborah Perdue.
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SPEAKER_01: And you heard her.
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SPEAKER_01: She will be back in the new coming year.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Be sure to share it with all of your family and friends.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Check out all the other hosts and their shows on DivasThatCare.com.
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SPEAKER_01: Have an absolute magical day, and remember, you can awaken that spiritual, magnificent talent that you were given.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Deborah has given you so many options.
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SPEAKER_01: Please connect with her.
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SPEAKER_01: We will have her links underneath the podcast.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: So remember to be kind to all.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Give your animals that great big extra hug.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: Share all your love with them.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: And until we connect again on Robust Lifestyle, stay strong and healthy.
28:47
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28:47
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