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EXPOSED: Why are These Powerful Cancer Cures ONLY Banned in the US? · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So as you know, I talk a lot about medicine. I talk about the health industry, big pharma, the COVID vaccines, the whole gamut of this because, in my opinion, it's one of the most important topics right now. It represents one of the greatest lies that we've been told with this Rockefeller medical system that I think is really designed to keep us sick and to keep us confused and to hide the truth from us.
• 0:42
  Now one person that's been at the center of bringing that truth to the people is my good friend Jonathan Otto, who is a filmmaker and a producer. And if you had ever seen the truth about cancer with Ty and Charlene Bollinger, he was the producer of that whole series. So he's someone that is intimately involved in the fight of getting information out. And so he's gonna be coming today with a lot of just incredible information that he's seen about a lot of secrets to what's really happening with cancer and other major illnesses that they they don't really want you knowing about. So, folks, please enjoy this interview with Jonathan Otto.
• 1:14
  So you've heard the news. Food factories burned to the ground. Millions of chickens gassed in the name of bird flu, Bill Gates and the CCP buying up farmland like there's no tomorrow. The government is literally paying farmers to slaughter livestock and shut down farms, and bugs are on the menu whether you like it or not. Just think about where this is headed.
• 1:36
  Henry Kissinger once said, who controls the food supply controls the people, and history is full of stories of tyrants using food to break people's will. Now, look, you're watching my show, which means you're probably not the kind of person that'll bow down to tyranny. But how long can you hold out when your kids are hungry or when you're forced to take a jab to eat? Look. I understand you have your own situation, and you can only do what you can.
• 2:02
  But imagine how good you'll feel knowing you've got a couple months of food stashed away for when it all hits the fan. And as the old saying goes, it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. But listen, not all storable food is created equal. A lot of the big food bucket companies use cheap fillers to lower the price per calorie. But in fact, it's during those difficult times when medicine's hard to come by, when clean water is hard to find, perhaps when you're struggling to survive, that's when nutrition matters more than ever.
• 2:34
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• 2:57
  Folks, order now before it's too late. Jonathan, it is great to have you on the show, man. Thank you so much for being here.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: Of course, Seth. Thank you for having me. I'm excited.
• 3:08
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. It's, you know, it's funny because you and I first met probably two, maybe probably two and a half years ago in, doctor Brian Artis's living room of all places. We were there for a mutual event, and that was where he first kicked off. And I heard your accent, you heard my wife's accent, you're both, you know, Australian Aussies, and we hit it off. So, you know, a lot's happened since then, but it's great to come back full circle.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. No. It's so true. And I love what you're doing, Seth. And, yeah, hearing your wife's accent, I definitely felt at home in in Texas of all places.
• 3:45
  And I'm like, there's a familiar accent and hit it off with you immediately, and I just love what you're doing. I love your mission. And I think that it was a beautiful moment in time where we're there in Brian doctor Brian Artis's living room, and a bunch of, like, freedom fighters and people that are really helping to move the needle were just gathered together, just spending time and connecting and breaking bread, and it was beautiful.
• 4:10
  Seth Holehouse: It really was. And so you're I'll give you my quick introduction, I'll let you explain yourself as well. So you're a a filmmaker, you're an entrepreneur, you were heavily involved in you were the producer of The Truth About Cancer series with with Ty and Charlene Bollinger, which a lot of folks are very familiar with. And I always love speaking to people like yourself that are seeing the big picture because you're interviewing and you're talking to people across the entire spectrum. Because even if you look at, say, health or cancer, there's so many subspecialties that have their own unique knowledge.
• 4:44
  And I remember one time interviewing I think it was Joshua Reed who were talking about this, and he referred to he was talking about why he really enjoyed interviewing and and talking to show hosts because he said that if you think of all these experts, they're these pearls. Right, they're these pearls of knowledge, but the host that gets to talk to all of them becomes the stringer, the pearl stringer. They actually get to take the string and thread together all this information, all these pearls of wisdom and knowledge to create the necklace. And that's what I really appreciate about about, you know, folks like yourself that are able to see all these different aspects. And so, I'll let you give yourself a quick background though, and just, you know, your involvement, especially in producing documentaries and shows and webinars and information about health, because health is such an important topic right now, especially because a lot of people are realizing that the health we were brought up to understand, the doctors, the lab coats, has been, in a lot of ways, a large psychological operation to lead us into a lie that keeps us sick, and it makes us die and keeps us hooked on pharmaceuticals when the real health, the real knowledge has always been there, just been covered up and demonized.
• 5:51
  So I'll I'll hand it over to you, though, to to get started.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah. You're so right on that, Seth. So my background, I I studied in Australia, completed a degree in journalism and media production with a double major, and so that that poised me into this area of investigative journalism and research. I did a postgraduate degree in education, but then I was With all the work I was doing in the humanitarian field, so I started traveling to places like Tanzania, Africa since the age of 17 and started working with a group called World Vision, a non government organization.
• 6:24
  My interest was there in solving huge problems in the world, global suffering, starvation, child trafficking. So I was doing heavy research in my teen years on these things, and there's some work I do in anti human trafficking with groups like the Tim Tebow group and others, but some of the amazing things that I learned then propelled me into the medical field. And so ten years ago, I worked as a producer for The Truth About Cancer, and my ability then to cross reference and connect the dots and go deep and ask the right questions and find solutions then became the driving force. And then because I was then somebody that was willing to do everything, so I'd learn and I'd go deep inside of like a clinic and understand what was working and what wasn't, And then I'd go deep into the research and find the things that sometimes these clinics were not doing because they're practitioners, but they're not necessarily always heavy in the research. And so bringing these worlds together and because we developed a huge following of millions of people then that were tuning in and watching the different documentaries and series that I was producing and helping to create, then what would happen was that people were then getting results as a result of using these protocols, and I was then using all these different tools and protocols on myself, we started getting the most breakthrough results.
• 7:50
  And so it's really been fascinating to watch over the last several years then a lot of the world leading clinics and physicians that are doing great work in the world that I trust and respect, and I learn just a wealth of information from them. The flip side has happened and is frequently happening almost every day. I'm having physicians reach out to me, having them ask me for ways to help their most complicated cases. How do you solve this problem? And all the research into cancer has meant that even cancer specialists are integrating and having me come in.
• 8:24
  There's there's times when I'm asked to come in and do trainings with entire cancer holistic cancer centers. Not not not conventional. They don't really wanna hear me, but but definitely the the the holistic places are having me come in and teach their staff and get clued in on certain strategies that are extremely effective. And I present the case studies and all the people that we've had reverse life threatening conditions, including cancer. And, it's just been really exciting because for me, the whole goal and dream was all just about making people's lives better and putting an end to suffering, and I'm grateful that God has been able to give me skills to be able to help solve, these important questions.
• 9:03
  Seth Holehouse: And so when you take this step back and you look at the the you know, I can't say the entirety of your work because it's such a broad, you know, you know, portfolio of work, but when you look at, specifically, you know, some of your interviews with, say, doctor David Martin, they have, you know, gone really viral, you know, really important discussions, or with the other key people that you've been able to talk to. When you look at what's happening in the world right now, that you we obviously, we've got this new rise of turbo cancers. Right? Obviously, you know, that, you know, call me a tempo tempo hack conspiracy theorist, but it seems like that they start occurring with the vaccine, you know, introduction of the COVID vaccine, to put it very lightly. Right?
• 9:45
  So when you look at this whole thing happening and you see we we we now know that, okay, that, you know, the the origins of COVID and it, you know, comes back to, you know, obviously, the CCP and back to, you know, own labs in The United States and biological warfare against humanity, then they they bring out the the COVID vaccine, which seems like it's okay. Hey. It's another round of biological warfare against humanity, and we're now reaping the, you know, the repercussions. We're seeing the repercussions of this experimental mRNA, you know, basically DNI modifying, you know, substance that was shot into that, you know, half the world's population. How do you make sense of that?
• 10:19
  Like, how do you, like, how do you wrap your head around what's happening in this world where you have these massive the pharmaceutical lobbying industries and the this medical industrial complex that's working hand in hand with governments, and and there there it's so massive, you almost can't see it. So, like, what's your perspective of all this that's happening?
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Seth, look. You you're hitting the nail on the head because these are the real issues that we should be most concerned about over anything else because, you know, there's really nothing that we can do. If we lose our health you know, if someone has their health, they have a thousand dreams.
• 10:56
  If they lose their health, they only have one dream, it's to get their health back. It's that simple. And so with what has happened, it has been, from all my research, a very intentional attack against people's health and well-being. And, you know, the powers that be do thrive of suffering. And yes, that does have a financial component and it does drive these industries.
• 11:18
  And the mechanisms then become the most important to understand then because what is causing this and how do we switch it off? There are countless people now, and a lot of these cases are documented in adverse event reporting systems like VAERS, the vaccine adverse event reporting system, which is a government database showing millions of injuries. And then all of these injuries have a risk when it comes to cancer because it creates a state of dysregulation. And once you start understanding what cancer actually is, then you'll understand that it's all about these disruptions and how autoimmunity is really a prerequisite. So there were some interesting studies that came out of Australia that showed if you had an autoimmune disease, your risk for cancer was five times greater, and that was anything from skin cancer to pancreatic cancer.
• 12:09
  So why is this? And it's a dysregulation. Like the body is out of whack and it's confused, your body doesn't get confused easily. It's simply because you have a toxic overload that is causing the dysregulation so your body cannot produce normal healthy cells. And when this happens, this is what we then blanket with terms like cancer, and we call it this thing that makes it sound like it's super foreign to the body.
• 12:34
  Like, man, if I could just get rid of this cancer, I just wanna kill this cancer. But the the understanding is so wrong. And and it makes sense why we think that because who wants this big lump and you just wanna get rid of it, but you don't realize something is driving that. And if you switch that off, then you switch the whole thing off. And this is what we're showing.
• 12:53
  We're showing people reverse these life threatening diagnoses, even late stage pancreatic cancer, the hardest to treat cancers that are being caused by a whole onslaught of toxins, including, and especially this COVID vaccine, and which sadly applies also to people that did not get vaccinated. There are things that have happened that have universally blanketed the world in these toxins, And a really good friend of mine, Doctor. Brian Artis, who you had on recently, has talked about how the venom aspect of what's going on with both the shots and with COVID itself, that is one example of the fact that even if you didn't take the shot, you can still get these horrific reactions from COVID itself, and which could be cancer, it could be an autoimmune disease. And so knowing what's causing and driving that, what's causing this the body to print these aberrant cells like cancer and, again, I'll just explain this concept so people get it. Cancer, the word comes from the Chinese star sign, which is interesting, which is a crab that grows and doesn't stop growing.
• 13:58
  And once you start working out that cancer is a very nebulous term, it doesn't really mean anything. It's a word that denotes something that grows and doesn't stop growing. And once you understand that your body replaces its cells all the time, For example, it will replace all of the organs in your body. So they'll all become new over certain periods of months. And so your heart will become completely new.
• 14:22
  All of these happen within a year's time, often within six months and varying levels of time or measurements of time. But what happens then when you have toxins in your body that cause your body not to produce cells properly to form properly and mature properly, and so your cell that's trying to form into a heart cell is not able to do it properly and it stays in this state where it's a twilight zone, it's in a middle zone, it's not able to fully convert. It's still a cell, but it's not a fully normal healthy cell. It hasn't differentiated properly, that's the word, which means to like morph or change and in this case into a normal healthy cell. And then it stays in the twilight zone called a cancer stem cell.
• 15:02
  Once you start working this out, then, stem cells, well, that's interesting. Stem cells, they code, they differentiate, they form into normal healthy cells. That's what they do, but a cancer stem cell hasn't got those mature attributes. So it doesn't even have the ability to program cell death, which is apoptosis. So it just keeps growing, doesn't form into a normal cell.
• 15:22
  And the thing is, if you then give it what it needs, it actually can differentiate back into a normal healthy cell. And that's what we're finding. People with these diagnosis is instead of carpet bombing their body with chemotherapy, they're very specifically going after these aberrant cells. In some cases, taking substances that help to kill the cancer stem cells, which is the most important aspect. If you are gonna kill cancer, it's the cancer stem cells.
• 15:47
  But more importantly, helping your cells to differentiate to form normal healthy cells, including cancer stem cells, which is a proven science, which is just amazing. So yeah, I know that there's a lot there to my answer, but it incorporates the problem and the solution. The good news is that millions of people are getting better following the right protocols.
• 16:06
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And I think that's actually the one of the biggest threats is the to into the system. Right? Is if the the people realize that you don't need that system. And and I think that that's exactly what we're going through right now.
• 16:18
  We're going through this process of people realizing that it's not just the guy with a clipboard in the white lab coat that equals health. I mean, actually, I think the opposite is now occurring where people are saying, I'm gonna stay away from the guy in the white lab coat with a clipboard because that equals unhealth. That equals the opposite of health. That equals death. And so, you know, I know you've you've spoken to a lot of folks that are involved in alternative treatments.
• 16:47
  From what you're seeing with, say, turbo cancers, just your more regular run of mill cancers that have been around for quite some time, what are you seeing as the the doctors coming to you? What are they successfully using to treat that? Because I know that it's not like there's one hidden secret. You know, I I know people that have been cured through, you know, vitamin c injections. I know people who have been cured, through certain milk out of Mexico, through, any kinds of different various treatments.
• 17:16
  You know, Laotrile, b seventeen, I interviewed, John Richardson recently, with talking about a lot of his father's work, in the amygdalin and and the role of that in getting rid of cancer cells. So but from what you're seeing, the the perspective that you have, what are most of the doctors in the alternative, you know, sphere? What are they successfully doing?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. That and that's that's the key because these these are the things that people can do from home for two reasons, to help their loved ones with cancer, help themselves with cancer, and, equally as importantly, use this to prevent cancer. Because the therapies that this is generally the case. The therapies that all work to turn cancer around are also the therapies that help to reverse, you know, prevent cancer.
• 18:01
  So the same therapies are working in both fields, both prevention and treatment. Okay. So there's several really amazing things, and I'll focus on a few of the really key ones, the ones that are getting the biggest and most profound results. One of them is chlorine dioxide. You must be familiar, right?
• 18:19
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, we have it online.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. And a lot of people are familiar with it with, for example, COVID or maybe an infection, but the way in which to use chlorine dioxide for cancer is profound because it's about consistency and it's about forming and forging an electrical pathway for the body because your body is electric. That's one. Two, it's about oxygenation. And so on a basic chlorine dioxide protocol, you will flood your body with 10,700,000 oxygen molecules for every single red blood cell in your body.
• 18:53
  K? Now where, you know, where is the biggest part or the biggest problem when it comes to disease malaise in the body? You can survive months without food. You could survive, you know, days without water, but you how long could you survive without oxygen?
• 19:11
  Seth Holehouse: Good point. So
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: oxygen is critical. You'd be lucky to last a few minutes. And so oxygen is critical for remedying the disease process. And when you take it in the form of something that is measured in picometers, so thousand nanometers in a millimeter, a thousand picometers in a nanometer. So very small.
• 19:33
  So sodium and chloride, which are not chlorine, is is what the chlorine dioxide is. So sodium, salt, chloride, salt are measured in picometers. They're very small, a few hundred, picometers. And then hydrochloric acid, which activates it. Now when you take this substance, you mix it together.
• 19:51
  And some of these before and afters, I'll have to show them.
• 19:53
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. So you've got some before and after stuff to show. Now I'll I will give the the viewer discretion advised warning that these are some they're they're scary looking images. Right? Before and after are some pretty gnarly looking cancers.
• 20:10
  So I'll let you I've I've got the links ready, I wanted just to warn people that if you're squeamish, look away. There's no nasty sounds, but visually, it it might be uncomfortable for you. But, Jonathan, why don't you kinda walk us through this information that we're gonna be showing?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And just to frame that as well to give you perspective, when you're looking at an image like this, you're just seeing the body not be out of, you know, form these cells properly. And and once you start thinking it like that, it maybe can take away some of the grossness of just saying, okay. This is just a misfire. You're so used to seeing God's perfect, you know, process in order where you see everything functioning normally, and so you're used to that, and so you're used to the beauty of God. And then when you see something go out of whack and a cell not formed properly, it looks horrible, but it really is just the absence of God's perfect orchestra and symphony, like him being the conductor there.
• 21:03
  And so, yeah, let's have a look at some of these images, Seth. But all of these images are great images. They they're all triumphant images because they're all about people having hope. And these are cases, as we, you know, show these images, they're they're cases that are being documented in in huge percentages. For example, the clinic out of Guadalajara, Mexico, the Andreas Kalker Foundation, doctor Andreas Kalker is a German biophysicist that's working, prolifically with specifically chlorine dioxide.
• 21:34
  He's finding a sixty to seventy percent reversal rate on cancer in these individuals that are going through this, and they're documenting this heavily. They've studied the one single substance for seventeen years, so it's not that they're kind of just guessing. They're working very hard on that, and this has been implemented in hospitals in Bolivia as a result, and so very important for people to understand the power of these things. So did you wanna do you wanna show that?
• 22:00
  Seth Holehouse: Face or you wanna look at the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Sure. So let's start with Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
• 22:05
  Yeah. Show me well, yeah. Show us that one. There you go. So here's some cells not forming properly, and here's cells that are now formed properly with using a basic chlorine dioxide protocol.
• 22:14
  Seth Holehouse: Wait.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So this
• 22:15
  Seth Holehouse: this was okay. On the left, this guy's face, that's just a cancerous tumor? That's just that's just cancerous growth? That's all that it is? I mean, it looks man.
• 22:26
  And so what kind of cancer was that?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, they all get these different names, and and so skin cancers normally kind of throw into, like, sarcoma and melanoma and these different things. But, like, it's an example of, like, some of the interesting things with these these studies that, like, because a lot of these images are coming out of, like, South America as an example, Latin America, you've got tens of million right around somewhere around the 10,000,000 users of chlorine dioxide. All these images are surfing surfacing, and and then many of them, if you go into detail, you can, like, read their reports. But yeah, these are tumors that are surfacing that are getting diagnosed and categorized. But as an example here, they're just malforming cells and they're not forming completely.
• 23:15
  And in this case, the amazing thing is that this this gentleman didn't get surgery to to get this cut out. I'm not I'm not saying that people shouldn't do that in any context. I'm just saying that's what's amazing. And so he's he's got, you know, restoration there using topical use of, in this case, chlorine dioxide with sodium chloride and hydrochloric acid activating. And and and and then he's drinking this substance.
• 23:39
  And and I'll and once I ex we're gonna go into explaining the science behind red light therapy because people really need to understand this because what you'll find is the same type of thing happening with red light therapy, and that's something that is complete it's not even something you put in your body. It's something you shine on your body, and it's something that people can do and they get everything from like their hair loss restored. So they stop losing their hair. They cure acne or they reverse scarring on their face and all the cosmetic things. So all the things that people want, like gets rid of fine line wrinkles.
• 24:12
  But the study is on the red light. We'll go into that more in a moment, but you'll find some of these studies don't even get finished before all the participants in the study are completely in remission of cancer on a red light therapy study. For example, the prostate cancer one, forty nine percent of the participants, and there's four hundred, these were humans, they all went into remission, forty nine percent in that it was a two year period and it was using something called photodynamic therapy, red light therapy combined with the supplementation, like, for example, a photosensitizer. Curcumin is one. Green tea is one.
• 24:46
  There's methylene blue is another. So you can be taking things in your body and activating it with red light, which is powerful. Just while we're on the topic, did you wanna show any more of those images? Yeah.
• 24:55
  Seth Holehouse: Well, I saw some plot one more time. So, basically, so this guy literally cured this this horrific looking cancer just from chlorine dioxide.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Correct. Yes. To to our knowledge to our knowledge, because a lot of these people are are reporting these, and they're these case studies exist, and the they're they're in books like Forbidden Health by doctor Andreas Kalka, and you can can access all these case studies there. And as often they're doing things like, for example, they're improving their diet and different things like that, but the majority of these people, really, they didn't have access to a lot of expensive holistic therapies that a lot of people that have money in the West get access to. So it really does highlight the benefits of something that is practically free.
• 25:42
  We see similar case studies with other therapies like that, like urine therapy as an example, and I know that you've started to list some other things, so it's really great that there's multiple ways to solve this. Yeah.
• 25:55
  Seth Holehouse: And so this other picture, are these, what are we looking at here?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: That's a breast cancer. That's breast. So I and, like, if you and and what if you play that other video, you'll you'll see this come up in there as well, how the tumor had actually come out. But look at the healing and the regeneration. Yeah, here's a tumor coming out of someone's belly.
• 26:16
  Look at the regeneration in the images on the far right to the bottom, and you'll see that this tissue is just repairing normally and it's healthy and they're new cells and it's supple and smooth and not scarred. And these are the things that you wanna see with regeneration. And just remember, when you have cancer cells, your cells are lacking something, they're lacking information and body is electric. And so when you fuel the body with sodium chloride, this is part of the electrolyte mineral system that your body runs off. Your body is electric and it needs these vital building blocks that cause a connection of your whole body to communicate properly and causes cells to mature normally.
• 27:00
  And and so it's just it's beautiful seeing that. And that's and that's why we look at all the things that help, and this is the reason why people are taking now red light therapy. They're taking something that normally people would think, if you think about regenerating cells or let's say you've got knee cartilage that is gone and then you need a knee replacement. And so then people are then saying, well, I'll get a stem cell injection straight into my knee. And then so somebody will experiment with that.
• 27:28
  Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. They're up maybe $15,000 depending anywhere between 5 and $20,000 And then sometimes if you're spending less, it's not enough stem cells. But your body's producing these stem cells, how do you help them mature and how do you help them conjugate to the right areas? And these were some of the amazing studies that showed from like heart cells, for example, were regenerated from red light therapy being shown directly on the heart. And in some of these studies, one in particular showed an 80% reduction in scar tissue for the heart, which when you look at myocarditis, this is scarring of the heart.
• 28:04
  And now red light therapy is helping to replace that because what it's doing is it's recruiting stem cells to these areas that emote because you're then shining the light on the area that you want help with, and then you're causing then the cells that are already there and the attraction of cells that are coming there now to then now code and form, and you're giving them what they need, the fuel, the light. Think about the Bible, Genesis chapter one, let there be light and light proceeded all things. And so light is actually needed for the maturation of cells. Your cells need to mature. And so when you're shining the light, you're causing them to then form into normal, healthy tissues.
• 28:41
  And so people are avoiding having to pay expensive stem cell therapies and then buying a red light instead, putting it on the affected areas, getting better results, and then they're able to keep using that. And it's not like a one time where you buy it and you use it a few times, you use it for a few decades. And so it's there for you. And these are the things that really are blowing my mind when it comes to understanding how this whole process works. Breast cancer is another great example.
• 29:09
  We showed just now a breast tumor. There was an amazing study that showed four different wavelengths wavelengths being tested. So wavelengths are then essential because they communicate with different aspects of the body. So, like, let's say if I go in four eighty nanometers, then that's gonna be blue light because of the nanometer of penetration. That's gonna be helpful for certain things, circadian rhythm.
• 29:31
  It's going to help with bacteria in the skin. It's gonna help with acne scarring and different things like this. But it's not gonna gonna gonna penetrate different regions that are also important for other functions. For example, this one study showed that a specific wavelength of red light, which was six thirty nanometers, stopped breast tumor proliferation by 40% in twenty four hours only.
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• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And then they're able to keep using that. And, you know, it's not like a one time where you buy it and you use it a few times. You use it for a few decades, And so it's there for you. And these are the things that really are blowing my mind when it comes to understanding how this whole process works. Breast cancer is another great example.
• 31:33
  We showed just now a breast tumor. There was an amazing study that showed four different wavelengths wavelengths being tested. So wavelengths are then essential because they communicate with different aspects of the body. So, like, let's say if I go in four eighty nanometers, then that's gonna be blue light because of the nanometer of penetration. That's gonna be helpful for certain things, circadian rhythm.
• 31:55
  It's going to help with bacteria in the skin. It's gonna help with acne scarring and different things like this. But it's not gonna gonna gonna penetrate different regions that are also important for other functions. For example, this one study showed that a specific wavelength of red light, which was six thirty nanometers, stopped breast tumor proliferation by 40% in twenty four hours only.
• 32:18
  Seth Holehouse: Wow. So here's a picture of red light. Right? So we we we mentioned this is, you know, just a generic image I found online of red light therapy.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: So Yep.
• 32:27
  Seth Holehouse: So red light therapy, is is it is it hot, or is it literally just red light? And and and if Yeah. How does it how does it actually affect something?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that you're asking these questions. So, so it's it's near infrared light or near red light, and infrared is where you can't see it. And so you'd, like, literally be looking at something. Like, I don't even know if this is on or not, but you'll see, like, a little glimmer in the lights, and you'll realize, no.
• 32:56
  It is on, and the button is showing that the device is turned on, but you can't see it. So that's infrared, which is not seen by the human eye. Now when people say they get into an infrared sauna, then that's gonna heat them up, but that's using far infrared light. And, basically, what happens with that is it just shoots basically past the body. And there's a certain level where if you shoot into this level, what and I'll give definitions of what that is.
• 33:18
  Now you start interacting with different processes in the body. So six thirty nanometers is like, for example, that's that's 6.3 millimeters. Right? So when you get into that depth, there's something that goes on in that region of the body where you're communicating to a whole layer. And and so you're going past the dermis to the epidermal layer and then to the, and then you can go all the way through the bone.
• 33:42
  And so red light is not hot. It's warm, but it doesn't actually heat you up. So it's actually super comfortable to do. Some people don't like going in salon as they feel like claustrophobic. And so people don't even have to do that, which is amazing.
• 33:56
  And all these studies that I'm referencing is purely the use of of of near red and near infrared light, and it's not actually heating people up either. And there are benefits to heating your body up, and so people can use that to raise their core body temperature, But those studies don't exist to these these details that I'm showing, with, these various types of cancers, which is, amazing that we now have this data.
• 34:21
  Seth Holehouse: And so what I guess, like, what's the red light do? Right? I mean, if you guess, what one thing you look at is think of you we think of the body as a a solid mass. Right? Like, if right now, if I took a flashlight and stuck it my back and turn it on, you wouldn't see the flashlight.
• 34:37
  Right? Like, my body would stop that light. But does does red light no. Does most cellular level because I know that if if you zoom in enough on our bodies, you see they're actually quite open. Right?
• 34:48
  There's actually a lot of open space in there. It's not what we think that we we perceive as being this solid object, but, you know, when we we kind of you're getting into more of the, quantum physics and, you know, type stuff. It's actually very open inside. So does the red light actually penetrate into? Like, it goes deep inside the body?
• 35:06
  And how does red light affect stem cells, and how do stem cells affect cancer?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They're they're all great questions. So yeah.
• 35:16
  So red light affects the body because it's giving the body what it needs, and so it it's helping with various processes. ATP is adenosine triphosphate, and that is the basically what what mitochondria need. So it you you're fueling these these basic processes that are the powerhouse of the cells that that are switching on the cells and making them active. So you're you were not made to be in the dark. And so it's just, you know, if I said, look, if you're if you're lacking if you're underweight, you're just you're you need calories.
• 35:57
  Right? It's that simple. Your cells just need light. And so why did God make us like that? I mean, these are big and big questions.
• 36:04
  Like, it we we thrive in the light. Our our bodies are basically they're in tune with the sun. And Genesis one says God made a light to rule the day and a light to rule the night, and that these lights were then made for us, both the sun and the moon, and they and what happens with a red light is is it's mimicking the sun's light, but it's then bringing it right to you, and it's bringing you certain types of red light from the sun, specifically the sunrise and the sunset, which are most powerful. And the reason why people are getting such extraordinary benefits from a device is that you're able to then get very close to it. You're able then to be fully unclothed in private setting in your home.
• 36:51
  And so you're harnessing a lot of that. And so obviously, one of the biggest recommendations is for people to get more sunlight. Sometimes people do that and get their skin burnt, which never happens with a red light device. And so there are lots of reasons why people ought to do something like this and have devices in their home. And then coming into your question around you know, cancer and stem cells.
• 37:15
  Okay. So once people get this and you realize that there are, you know, countless studies on stem cell regeneration, and I I could show you even the different wavelengths or mention them. Basically, everything from six thirty, six 60, eight ten, eight 30, eight 50, all these different wavelengths, red and infrared are used for stem cell regeneration and they work
• 37:37
  Seth Holehouse: to I wanna pull
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: this up.
• 37:38
  Seth Holehouse: I I just saved this image I found on Twitter the other day, that was showing the colors. I was talking about, you know, sun gazing and why you can sun gaze in the morning, but how the color of the sun actually changes. Like, the the color of the the sorry. The color of the light that reaches us actually changes. And so am I correct in understanding, like, the the light you see at the beginning and the end of the day as it steps into that red light spectrum.
• 38:04
  Is that correct?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. You are getting a different, a changing in that light. And another example is the rainbow now has every different, different nanometer. There there's different frequencies there that we're picking up, and we then now are seeing different colors.
• 38:20
  And that's an example, which is all in connection with the sun and reflection and and the the the there's lots of interesting factors there, but, yes, you're you're getting all these differences, and there's particular, like you're seeing here in this diagram, particular power in these certain times in the day, and then a red light device is mimicking especially that morning sunlight and that evening sunlight, and then you're able to access it any time, have it there, and have it to kinda switch your body on. What was amazing as well is the particularly if you did the red light therapy in the morning and you looked in it for either one minute three times a week or three minutes once or twice a week, it improved the eyesight by 18% in five weeks. I'm using some rough numbers here. It's right around there, and it was doctor Andrew Huberman that talked about this, these were based on clinical studies that were amazing. So it actually causes the maturation of the cells in the eyes.
• 39:17
  And so looking into it, but it had to be the morning, even if you had a red light device in your home. And so it's mimicking a lot of the morning light and evening light, but it was best done in the morning. So it it which is helping with your body's natural circadian rhythm. And so it's just interesting. It keeps bringing us back to the Garden of Eden where we were made to be fully in light.
• 39:38
  And then, you know, I mentioned the prostate cancer study. Well, of course then these are regions of the body that most people can't just go walking around like this, but you can apply this in a lot of men with low testosterone. Red light therapy is gonna help with low testosterone. It's gonna help with sexual health. Same with females as well by having the light shining in these regions.
• 39:58
  So basically every area of your body. And, yeah, now to answer that question around the stem cells, so stem cells being regenerated and being then caused to mature as well, and cancer, those processes are very similar. And then once you understand a cancer stem cell, people have not often heard this term, it's becoming more well known, Chemo does not kill cancer stem cells. Very important to know. It actually strengthens cancer stem cells, but it kills the downstream tumor cells, which makes you think you're winning the war.
• 40:31
  The tumor has now decreased. We're winning, but the cancer stem cells are still increasing. The actual issue is not solved. But what those cancer stem cells need is the ingredients they need to mature, just like a stem cell needs to mature. And the red light is giving them the fuel.
• 40:47
  The bottom line is in colloquial easy terms to understand, your cells love and feel happy in the presence of light and the presence of red light and near infrared light and and all different spectrums of light, especially those. And then as a result, they then mature and become normal, healthy cells, and that therefore becomes the best thing that people can do to prevent cancer. For example, you look at the study where it drops their cancer proliferation rate of breast tumor cells by forty percent in only twenty four hours, then, okay, now what happens if we do another twenty four hours? What happens if we do another twenty four hours? Basically, mirrors what happened with the glioblastoma studies, which people have a twelve to fifteen month survival rate of these aggressive glioblastomas in the brain.
• 41:34
  And what happens now when you do surgery? You remove it. Well, the reason why the prognosis is so short is because they keep growing back. What does red light therapy do when combined with photosensitizers? Photodynamic therapy is what that's called when you take a supplement to then help this process and concentrate that light and activate.
• 41:53
  Because what happens is some of these photosensitizers, they're fluorescent. You take them, and then they they conjugate in these parts of the body. Now they're activated by the red light, and all the food you ate eat is basically a photosensitizer. It makes you more conscious about what you're eating because you wanna fuel your body with what it needs so that red light can switch that on in your body. So it all goes together.
• 42:11
  But now what happens in these studies? The breast the brain tumors don't grow back. And and so the glioblastoma show that it's preventative then against reoccurrence. So then what's the best thing that everyone can be doing right now? Practically, number one thing that everyone can be doing is putting red light on your body either daily or every couple of days.
• 42:30
  And for only twenty to thirty minutes, you'll feel happier. It's used for all kinds of depression, anxiety, mood disorder. It's used for cognitive function, brain fog, alertness. And yes, it did red light therapy work super effectively in the clinical studies for COVID, COVID, and therefore COVID vaccine injuries incredibly powerful and beneficial, as proven in mainstream PubMed clinical studies, let alone all the anecdotal reports that are coming out that people have had their lives changed and and they've reversed all these horrific symptoms. But these then become the things that people then just incorporate and you you're basically going back to the way God made you and you're thinking about your body not just as this caloric intake machine where you're just thinking about the chemistry.
• 43:16
  Okay? So now it's about supplements. And by the way, you know, I I have a supplement company, but it's amazing to to let people know that when you have a red light, you don't have to keep reordering. You just have the device. So it becomes more cost effective.
• 43:31
  It's cheaper than anything else that you'll do because it's just a one one and done. But now you're thinking in terms of quantum physics, and you're not thinking in terms of just chemistry, and you're influencing the chemistry of the body through the physics, and the physics then becomes the predominant aspect because we are we are light beings, we're frequency beings. These are things that often get overlooked, and unless we understand that, we won't understand why these studies are showing such, amazing prolific results.
• 43:59
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So if someone wants to do red light therapy actually, a friend of mine knows that he he owns a health spa. A big part of what they do is red light therapy, but they're they're they're pretty big machines, and it it seems kinda cost prohibitive and expensive. Okay. Well, you know, maybe if you're rich, you can have a big red light setup.
• 44:19
  But are there how how does someone do this? Right? If someone wants to set up a little thing at home or or what? How does that work? Do they go to Amazon to to search for red light therapy, or I'm sure there's all kinds of Chinese knockoffs coming out that are not good and they're probably red LEDs, but tell us about how how someone gets into this.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. So, the keys there are to look at, for example, if, you know, if you're looking at studies that showed certain wavelengths were influential for for cancer, and they those are the types of things you wanna do. You wanna make sure that you're getting devices that cover all this. Okay.
• 44:55
  Now reference to the clinics. To me, I would say it's gonna be super expensive to go to clinics regularly on this. And and you can't actually use the devices the way you're supposed to because there's debates as to whether the red light really is effective and effectual in the body for twenty four or forty eight hours, which means that now you're looking at going every like two days to the clinic, you're driving, you're waiting in line, you're getting in a machine, you might be paying a hundred dollars a pop. Sometimes these devices, they're costing like $130 because they're paying you know, retail and then marking the products up insanely. It's just it's like but the the keys there is to look at two things and it I'm glad that this can be so educational because there's the wavelengths, so you wanna make sure you're getting the wavelengths that you need, and you wanna make sure that you're getting the irradiance level.
• 45:45
  Irradiance is the amount of power delivered in basic terms. It's the millivolts or milliwatts delivered per centimeter squared, and so you're looking for a device, for example, that can be around 200, you know, at its, you know, irradiance level of its delivery per centimeter squared of the milliwatts delivered the power into the cell so that because otherwise, what you're you're getting is it's just even though you might have the right frequency, there's not enough power there to do its job. And so and then you ideally, you want a full body panel. There are ways you can do, like, super cheap stuff. When I when I say super cheap, don't mean, like, tacky.
• 46:28
  I just mean that they're because they're so they're targeted, you can get a belt and you can just put that on directly. And that that, for example, you'd wanna look at having both red and infrared light so it can tackle both these pathways, which is typically gonna be six sixty and an eight fifty, which should, you know, hit these levels. And they they're gonna have lower irradiance levels. So, for example, if you're really going after something and you're really targeting, like, something that you think is, like, a chronic life threatening issue, then I would say, like, make sure you're also doing, like, a high power device that has a high radiance level as well, like a like a panel. But these are the kind of recommendations that I have in that regard.
• 47:08
  And so and one as well that I look at is making sure you have all the wavelengths covered. So the wavelengths in in this case, you know, some of the things that we've done with our research. And so, you know, this is part of the reason why I founded a red light company so that we could then tackle all of this and make sure that people got good value and they weren't just getting like a couple wavelengths. And, you know, there were certain wavelengths that worked only for tinnitus as an example. Like, it was just the eight thirty as an example that worked for tinnitus.
• 47:37
  And so then if you didn't have that in that device, then you'd you'd miss out on that benefit. And so we wanted to make sure we covered everything. And so we we covered, for example, four eighty, you know, six thirty, six 50, eight 30, eight 50, and then then some of the nine hundreds then up to ten sixty, which is all about the cognitive function. And so we covered eight different wavelengths. And so that was part of the reason we just wanted to give that value, and then we had the high radiance value over 200.
• 48:05
  And then and then it it it all these things together then, you know, were the reasons why we we got all these reports of people's hair growing back and their skin being supple, people using them for all the different conditions that we've been talking about and reporting back incredible results. So that that was part of, like, how we did that. As well, make sure that you're not getting ripped off because I people because it's highly sought after, people are literally, like, taking advantage of people and look for companies that have big missions that are giving back to humanity. And then, you know, they're giving those those savings back to the customer, making sure that people get the best possible results, and that, you know, it's it's it's fair, and it's it's really good for the customer.
• 48:48
  Seth Holehouse: That makes sense. So tell us about your company. I I I I trust your perspective on this, and the fact that you've got this this background in documentaries in cancer exposing this, I'd I'd love to see what you're doing. So so how can folks follow what you're doing, and if they wanna buy from you, how does that work?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. So my red light is you know, so you can go there right now. You can go to myredlight.com. And so really easy to remember.
• 49:16
  We made sure that was simple. We'll there'll be a video right here that you can watch as well, which will detail. It's know, it'd be a couple hours long. So if you want to hear every single study and how we go through thyroid, amazing. Red light is completely regenerative for the thyroid.
• 49:31
  How many women are suffering from thyroid conditions and disease particularly? It's about a ten to one ratio of women to men suffering from thyroid conditions and lymphoma and all these, the bone cancers, bone density, people are getting into their older years and worried that their bones will be too brittle and that then becomes a life expectancy issue, bone density. We go through all the studies in the video that you'll see on that page when you go here to myredlight.com. And then when you scroll down and you look at the different ways to then use these devices, we've made it possible for anyone to to get in and to start red light therapy from and you can see, like, we've just we've slashed down the prices a bunch there to make them super affordable for everyone. And so you're getting a few hundred dollars off of all the devices from the hat, mask, belt, as an example.
• 50:20
  And so, like I was mentioning, for, you know, under a couple hundred bucks, you can get started, you can use red light therapy and concentrate in various areas where you're having aches and pains, and you'll see the benefits. And it's part of the reason why we cover people with a sixty day money back guarantee because people see the benefits then you know, so no questions asked because we we just love seeing people get results and feel better. But you can see these full body panels that will cover your whole body. And, yeah, if you just go up there, the one in the far right there, people can get a full body panel and they get a, like, a red light belt and the stand will come in there for free plus an amazing supplement bundle that just comes as a free gift just which which we just love to give back. And a lot of the research I've been doing with Well of Life, we've helped to see people reverse all kinds of chronic conditions using those time and tested formulas that range from antiparasitics to heavy metal toxin binders and all these different aspects.
• 51:17
  So it's really great because remember, the photosensitizing aspect, it's great to be on formulas that really respond well to the red light, curcumin being a great example. But as you'll see there, we've got the full eight spectrum in the red light devices. And so you'll see it listed there in the fine print, four eighty, six 30, six 60, eight 10, eight 50, nine 40, nine 80, and 10 60 nanometers. And so these these you know, are proven. And if you you watch even the webinar that we do on the top of that page, you'll see all the studies that go specifically this wavelength does this, and it performs for these different types of cancer.
• 51:57
  And so then because of that, we're using the most prolifically studied wavelengths. And typically, when people are getting devices that have the the only other one that I know that has an age spectrum in it is like a $50,000 device. And that was, again, like an example of giving back to the customer and wanting people just to get results. Because that's what gets me happy. That's what lights me up and makes me feel excited about what I'm doing.
• 52:19
  And then you can scroll down a little bit there if you if you want. And then and then there's a lot of precision devices there as well so that you can use in different ways. And a lot of people, you know, wanna, you know, get their skin health on point and some of those options as well so people can get you know, use Affirm or PayPal with the payment plans, which allow you know, people then also can can do it for as little as, like, you know, $30 a month or $50 a month or a hundred and you know, whatever package they're choosing if they're choosing some of the the bigger programs. But even if yeah. It it can be, like, close just very minimal and, you know, $10.20 dollars or it it varies again with what people want.
• 53:02
  But if people wanna get all the devices, for example, because they see the benefits and they can see how much they can prevent all the different problems they're preventing, then they can use all these different devices. And we all these ones that you're seeing there on the page are all bundled into in for free for our best value program. And so then that allows people to then just get everything. And it allows people also to come around to your home and you can get everyone on these types of devices, get them help, and and it's it becomes a beautiful thing when you know how much benefit is there and how much your loved ones also need that help. And then you become like a hotbed for all these different therapies, and they're there in your home.
• 53:38
  People come to visit. I know I love to have visitors and friends over, and I love to see people get well. And it creates a culture around these things, and that's what we are doing with, our Red Life, company and with the myredlight.com.
• 53:51
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• 54:04
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• 54:30
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• 54:51
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• 54:56
  So, Jonathan, it's been great to have you on. And and I I love that you've found a business that fits the space. Right? Like, all my the people that I really enjoy talking to, a lot of them, they've they've looked at this and said, look, I'm gonna do a career change. And instead of, say, working in, you know, finance or working as a executive somewhere, they're starting businesses that I think are are the the parallel economy.
• 55:19
  They're the new emerging technologies. As this lie that we've talked about falls apart and people are seeing the truth, you're you're helping guide people. So I really appreciate that, Jonathan. And, I look forward to doing this again. Thank you again for for for, you know, being here.
• 55:35
  And I'll make sure that the links that we covered, myredlight.com, these are in the description. So, again, man, thank you so much for being here. It's been it's been great speaking
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: with I appreciate it so much. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share and to give people hope and healing. People need it. People need people like you right now, man. I appreciate you and what you're doing.
• 55:53
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