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What to look out for vs. Browns | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And
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Speaker 1: now a guy who sleeps harder than a Washington National's
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Speaker 1: two game winning streak, Jay Peace, I'll take that. Welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. And we got
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Speaker 1: a busy show ahead training camp rolling along preseason week
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Speaker 1: one officially this year. Tomorrow night, the Jaguars entertain the
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and we'll get to the Jags playing time.
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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Doug Peterson coming up, Jeff Logvan, Jaguars analyst,
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Speaker 1: and then the Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock today.
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Speaker 1: No coach on the show today. We'll hear a bunch
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Speaker 1: from Doug throughout the week, though, plenty to get to.
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Speaker 1: Heading into preseason week number one, The Jags starters will
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Speaker 1: go this week, according to head coach Doug Peterson earlier
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Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, this week, this week, I'm gonna let
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Speaker 1: the starters play, um, you know, get their feet wet
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Speaker 1: a little bit in this football game. A couple of series, um,
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Speaker 1: nothing too nothing too crazy, nothing too long, but just
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Speaker 1: want to get him the feel of the game and
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Speaker 1: and get him in there and uh, get him working,
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Speaker 1: you know, in in game game situations. Is that Trevor
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Speaker 1: and sports is development in the offense to get those
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Speaker 1: well for him, it's important, but also for the offense, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a new scheme, got new new faces,
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Speaker 1: new people out there that he's working with, and you know,
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Speaker 1: new center. So just just you know, uh seeing all
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Speaker 1: of it put together, you know, and and you just
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Speaker 1: want to have some some crisp plays, some good execution
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, try to score. Try to score
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Speaker 1: a few points and get him out. Speaking of Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: he was on the sideline at the Hall of Fame game,
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Speaker 1: had the ear butt in to hear the play calls.
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Speaker 1: He'll get the start this week, as you heard Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson say, and number sixteen is ready for action. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean there's no doubt. UM get great work in
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Speaker 1: during the week. I mean that's why that's why we practice,
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Speaker 1: and especially to our defense is um just do a
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Speaker 1: lot of different things. I think it's great as a
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Speaker 1: quarterback end to go against that every day, makes you think,
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Speaker 1: makes you really communicate with each other on offense. So
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Speaker 1: that's been great for us all camp. And then yeah,
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Speaker 1: of course, you know you want to play. Um, but
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Speaker 1: you also realize what the coaches are doing. And you
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Speaker 1: know it's a long season, like being a part of
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Speaker 1: it last year, seventeen games plus hopefully playoffs all that. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's a long season. So you know it's a marathon,
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to get too far ahead of yourselves.
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Speaker 1: But whenever that, what time is, I'll be ready to
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Speaker 1: roll and get out there and whatever that is, you know,
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Speaker 1: this week, next week, however much I play, I don't
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Speaker 1: know yet. Um. Just being as efficient as possible when
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Speaker 1: it is out there, live reps doesn't change anything except
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Speaker 1: for that I can get hit, but still you play
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Speaker 1: the same way, um, and then we'll be you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll be ready to roll. That's Trevor Lawrence Monday, and
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Speaker 1: the day before that, on Sunday, the team cranked up
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Speaker 1: the heat with live tackling periods. Trevior's ETN Jr. Was
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Speaker 1: ready to finally get some kind tact. Yeah, no, I
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Speaker 1: need that. I mean, like you said, I haven't played
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Speaker 1: it so long, Like I want to get tacled. I
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Speaker 1: need to get tacled, just to get back to get
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Speaker 1: my body, my body back acclimated with that. I just
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Speaker 1: been at home, working out on the couch, stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: So come out here to get bumps and bruises. I
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Speaker 1: missed that. I missed that contact. You know, may sound crazy,
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Speaker 1: but I miss kind of been in those car crashes. Well,
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Speaker 1: there you have it, Travis ET and Jr. Will get
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of that. Coming up a little bit
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Speaker 1: later from Andre Cisco. We welcome in Jaguars analysts Jeff Loghman. Now,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon to get Jeffrey. Good afternoon, JP. I can't
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Speaker 1: believe that he took some of the shots that he
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Speaker 1: did and practiced on Sunday, so we were, of course
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Speaker 1: coming back from Ohio. Didn't get to see it in person,
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Speaker 1: but you've seen it on tape. Yeah. I watched it
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Speaker 1: watching the film and I'm like, man, you gotta you
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Speaker 1: gotta defend yourself. I mean, it was almost as if
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Speaker 1: Travis just didn't see the defenders at all. It was
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Speaker 1: just getting whacked. I was like, wait a minute, you know, hey,
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Speaker 1: look you know pair for it, you know, And he
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Speaker 1: got one hit by uh Cisco was the first. Cisco
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Speaker 1: was one and uh gosh, who was the other one?
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Speaker 1: I mean that one with the second one might have
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Speaker 1: been worse. Ray Sewn Jenkins got press. Taylor described at
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator when he spoke this week is kind
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Speaker 1: of like the tackles you see in football movies where
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Speaker 1: the guys are flying head over heels. When he's told
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Speaker 1: what he's talking about is that in the movies, you know,
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Speaker 1: the guy gets hit and he doesn't see it coming
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Speaker 1: at all, And that was kind of what the plays
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Speaker 1: looked like a little bit with with Travis and Uh.
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Speaker 1: To be perfectly honestly, if if if I'm a defender
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Speaker 1: and I'm approaching him and that fashion I'm going, does
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Speaker 1: he know that this is live? I mean kind of unprepared.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, man, look, if he wants to take the
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Speaker 1: hit to get ready because he hasn't played football in
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Speaker 1: a long period of time, more power to him. But
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. If I was running back,
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Speaker 1: I'd step out of bounds. You know where you've got.
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Speaker 1: You got the game, okay, Because you've got to be smart.
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Speaker 1: It's about getting ready for a seventeen game season now,
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Speaker 1: and you have to be able to minimize the contact
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Speaker 1: that you take. A look. I understand you have played
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Speaker 1: football in a while, but trust me, you've got plenty,
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Speaker 1: plenty of it in front of you, that's right. And
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson described that this week, you know, there's only
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Speaker 1: a couple of days in training camp or he'll have
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Speaker 1: some live periods. One of those was Sunday. There's another
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Speaker 1: one coming at some point next week before the Steelers
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Speaker 1: preseason game, just because you only have a limited amount
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Speaker 1: of time in pads and but only four games, three
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Speaker 1: games with the starters out there, So throw it in
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, a couple of periods in those
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Speaker 1: two practices. Really, that's about it, and that's philosophy. Let
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Speaker 1: me say this to um. A live practice period and
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Speaker 1: is it's not. It's not the same as live in
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Speaker 1: a game. You're not cutting, you're not going to the knees. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're not tackling low. I mean, look, you understand in
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Speaker 1: your mind and in your heart that these were my
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Speaker 1: teammates and I'm going to protect them. Okay, I understand
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Speaker 1: the drills live, but I'm not gonna do anything that
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Speaker 1: would put myself at risk, and I'm not gonna do
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Speaker 1: anything that would put my teammate at risk. And so
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things in this live period
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Speaker 1: that really aren't quite live, but it's as close to
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Speaker 1: live as you're gonna get into practice, that's for sure. Alright,
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Speaker 1: playing time, Doug Peterson, you just heard from the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: head coach. The starters will play certainly an offense. I
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Speaker 1: first look at Trevor Lawrence in a game situation. Some
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Speaker 1: of his weapons will be with him as well for
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Speaker 1: the first time. And there's some battles on the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up. So for the quarterback,
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Speaker 1: what do you think a couple of drives, get him
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Speaker 1: in there and get him warmed up, you know, move
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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, hopefully some points, and get
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Speaker 1: him out right. I mean, in a in a perfect world,
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Speaker 1: come out and have one drive and let's say you
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Speaker 1: put together you know, seven eight play drive and it
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Speaker 1: results in a touchdown, and you go, okay, that's enough.
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Speaker 1: You know you're done. But if all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: you have drive number one and it goes five plays
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Speaker 1: in a punt, you know, then you're like okay. As
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Speaker 1: a coach, you know you have one thing you'd like
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Speaker 1: to have. And Doug mentioned this when he talked about
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Speaker 1: it was points. You know, it's about scoring points. It's
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Speaker 1: what you do on offense, and so uh, if it
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Speaker 1: takes a couple of drives to get some points, and
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Speaker 1: that's what it takes. If it takes one drive and
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Speaker 1: seven or eight nine plays and okay, that that's it,
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Speaker 1: that's enough. You guys are done. So I think it
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Speaker 1: all depends on performance. Defense is probably gonna be about
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Speaker 1: the same way. You want to have guys have success,
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Speaker 1: and that's the most important thing. You want to have success.
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Speaker 1: And then go ahead and protect your guys because more
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Speaker 1: than likely the Cleveland Browns are gonna be taking their
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Speaker 1: guys out after a series or two as well. And
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Speaker 1: so are you Are you getting the quality of reps
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Speaker 1: that you really want to get when all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden the opponents not playing their guys, you know, you
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Speaker 1: know you want to have even you know, when things
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Speaker 1: are even, okay, let's get some real good reps. If
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Speaker 1: if if your starters are in there and the Cleveland
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Speaker 1: Browns are on their third team, it's not the reps
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Speaker 1: you're looking for. And you know, guys on the third
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Speaker 1: team are in theory bubble players. They're trying to kind
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Speaker 1: of make big plays and do things that might be
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Speaker 1: out of the norm in that kind of situation, you
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Speaker 1: can put your guys at risk. You just don't want to.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to lose a starter. And uh, in
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Speaker 1: a preseason game going and you know, started going against
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Speaker 1: a third team guy. You know, if you do, then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna look back on and go,
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Speaker 1: what were we thinking? This will be the Jaguar's first
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Speaker 1: look at some of their offensive weapons. Christian Kirk turned
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Speaker 1: an ankle earlier this week. We'll see what happens with him,
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Speaker 1: but Za Jones should be a go. Evan Ingram, Uh
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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones Jr. Who's been around here of course a year.
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Speaker 1: And then Travis E. T n Junior, the running back
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Speaker 1: will get his first look since last preseason when he
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Speaker 1: suffered the List Frank injury in New Orleans. And when's
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Speaker 1: the last time he played a real meaningful game? You go,
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Speaker 1: you go back the bull game at Clemson, right that
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Speaker 1: him and Trevor played in together as college teammates. And
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Speaker 1: that's that's a long time. I mean a long time.
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Speaker 1: And Uh, I will say this with Travis. Anytime you
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Speaker 1: have a running back that's coming back from a foot injury,
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Speaker 1: it's a major concern, major concern, right, I mean running
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Speaker 1: back and feet. I mean, last time I checked, running
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Speaker 1: backs need to have the feet kind of where it begins.
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Speaker 1: I think exactly with a quarterback or an offensive lineman,
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Speaker 1: you know they might be able to not be dent
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Speaker 1: and they can fight through it. But with a running back, speed, acceleration,
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Speaker 1: and change the direction. I mean, everything is based upon
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Speaker 1: your feet, and it's a It's been amazing watching him.
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Speaker 1: He's coming back from this Liz Frank thing, which a
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Speaker 1: lot of people may not know what that is. Just
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Speaker 1: to simplify it, it's a midfoot spring and he had
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Speaker 1: a surgical procedure that inserted a screw of some kind
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Speaker 1: to stabilize the situation. And he has shown no ill effects.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he has looked fantastic in practice. He's looked fast,
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Speaker 1: he's looked elusive. He has a wide skill set to
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Speaker 1: where he's not only just gonna not gonna be just
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Speaker 1: a runner, He's gonna be a receiver. And when James
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Speaker 1: Robinson gets out there, I'm excited about the possibilities of
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Speaker 1: what they can do with both of them on the field.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, Press Taylor and offensive coaches are
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Speaker 1: gonna have all kinds of fun scheming things up with
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Speaker 1: the two of them and a Jamal agnew right absolutely
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Speaker 1: who can do a bunch of different things. And then
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Speaker 1: Levisca should not all could be in that mix in
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Speaker 1: the backfield. Who knows? Like moving ahead? This is a
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Coke Florida. Now, the offensive line battles,
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Speaker 1: there's a couple raging there. We haven't really seen the
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Speaker 1: full raging left guard battle yet. Tyler Shatley has been
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Speaker 1: getting most of the first team reps in practice. Been
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Speaker 1: Bart certainly is still in the mix there. But the
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Speaker 1: one I think a lot of people have been focused
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Speaker 1: on its right tackle, Walker Little getting most of those
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Speaker 1: reps up until this week. Joan Taylor coming off that
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Speaker 1: hamstring issue that put him down for a week or so.
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Speaker 1: Both are expected to play with the first team this week.
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Speaker 1: Where does this stand right now? Right tackle? I think
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Speaker 1: it's dead even I think Walker a little because he
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Speaker 1: had a he had a very good start in the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, and because he's been practicing, I
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Speaker 1: would say that he is ahead. But because Juwan Taylor
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Speaker 1: has the previous starting experience, I would say that that
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Speaker 1: keeps things equal. So now is the time where you're
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Speaker 1: gonna find out, you know, who's the best. And uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how they're gonna split up the rotation.
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Speaker 1: Will they go every other series? Will they go, Okay,
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Speaker 1: one plays the first couple drives and then and while
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Speaker 1: the one goes in the next But here if they
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Speaker 1: alternate every series, which I think that's been talked about
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Speaker 1: by Doug. There's a lot of offensive linemen and a
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Speaker 1: lot of players that would tell you they don't like
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Speaker 1: it like it that way. And the reason why is
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Speaker 1: you never feel like you get into a groove. You know,
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Speaker 1: you you get a couple of plays and then you're
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Speaker 1: you're standing watching first series, you get cold, okay, and
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Speaker 1: then you're back in there and again. You know, some
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Speaker 1: guys would rather have it split up. Okay, one guy
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Speaker 1: take the first quarter, the other guy take the second quarter.
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Speaker 1: Then the next week you just flip flop it. But
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get a fair evaluation that way because
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Speaker 1: who you're playing in the first quarter might be way
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Speaker 1: different than who you're playing in the second quarter, especially
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Speaker 1: in the preseason games exactly so, so I I get
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Speaker 1: the the every other series if in fact they do that.
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Speaker 1: But again, just to make a note that the players
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Speaker 1: don't like that much, but it is a real battle,
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Speaker 1: and I think there's a real battle that's a little
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Speaker 1: bit sutler or more subtle at left guard. And the
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Speaker 1: reason I say it's a little bit more subtle because
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Speaker 1: you're not seeing Ben bart and Tyler Shatley rotate, and
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Speaker 1: it's not being talked about that much. But Tyler Shatley
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Speaker 1: is like the ultimate swing guy on game day. You know,
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Speaker 1: he can back up your center position, he can back
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Speaker 1: up your guard positions. And Ben Bartch has got some
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Speaker 1: plain experience all bit on the right side because Nora
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Speaker 1: Well was a fixture at left guard. Can BArch make
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Speaker 1: that transition to the left side. Can Can he get
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Speaker 1: his feet to move faster or to play faster on
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Speaker 1: game day? A lot of times his feet kind of
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Speaker 1: get a little bit slow, and then that's where he
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Speaker 1: gets kind of beat around the edge or whatever, And
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's more of a feet issue as
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Speaker 1: it might be. You know, hey, look, it's maybe an
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Speaker 1: awareness issue, whatever. But he's got to get better if
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Speaker 1: he's going to expect to beat out Shatley, because they
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Speaker 1: love having the veteran presence on each side of Fortner.
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Speaker 1: And to whether you're you're not worried about well, look, hey,
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Speaker 1: look we got two guys on each side of our
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Speaker 1: rookie center. They're both accomplished. They can help him with
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Speaker 1: the calls and they can help him in performance. If
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Speaker 1: you have another guy that's out there that's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of experience and may end up not being perfect
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Speaker 1: in some situations, you're like, wait a minute, what's because
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Speaker 1: the ultimate decision is JP it's not about who's the
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Speaker 1: best left guard. You know, we're talking about just that position,
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Speaker 1: and you can probably put the right tackle position in
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Speaker 1: the same conversation. It's about which guy is gonna make
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Speaker 1: the offensive line better. So does Tyler Shatley more experienced,
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Speaker 1: less apt to have his feet kind of be a
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Speaker 1: little slowed, or does the more physical power of a
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Speaker 1: ben Barge make the offensive line better? So, because you've
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Speaker 1: got to you've got a factor in These guys play
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Speaker 1: next to other people and their performance impacts the one
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Speaker 1: next to him. So that's gonna be an interesting equation
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Speaker 1: because the better player may not necessary sarely, may not
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Speaker 1: necessarily win out at left guard, but the player that
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Speaker 1: makes the offensive line is a group better. And then
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Speaker 1: that could be opening day, kick off weekend, and then
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Speaker 1: a few weeks down the road circumstances, it may change
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Speaker 1: week two, you know, just because well we we thought, well,
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Speaker 1: we thought where our offensive line was going to be
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Speaker 1: better as a whole by playing player exit left guard
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Speaker 1: or player exit right tackle. You know, it didn't really
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Speaker 1: work out that way, so we're gonna go and switch
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Speaker 1: it up. The evaluation is never over in the it
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Speaker 1: is not. And when you when you have a new
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, there's probably a little bit more likely to
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Speaker 1: have that kind of a scenario to where because you
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Speaker 1: don't have a history with these guys. Let's come back,
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Speaker 1: we'll get into the defensive side, what they're looking at
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Speaker 1: this week, and what to expect from the defensive side
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Speaker 1: ten ten XT, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean, honestly,
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Speaker 1: usually the defense is ahead. It should be it should
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Speaker 1: be right. I mean offense, there's a lot more timing
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Speaker 1: involved with the with the five offensive lineman and the
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Speaker 1: running backs and making sure you know pad levels on
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Speaker 1: the same angle. You know that the offensive line is
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Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks eyes, the timing, the details of rousers.
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Speaker 1: There's just more timing things with the offense. So this
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Speaker 1: time at camp and really probably early in the season. Usually, um,
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Speaker 1: the defenses may have a little little advantage. That's head
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Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson. Defense has the advantage early. Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: Start Credit Union, Do Good Bank better Well. The defense
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Speaker 1: last week in Canton, Ohio, LOGS didn't have five, four
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Speaker 1: or five of the key starters in the depth chart,
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Speaker 1: at least in the front seven. In that game, they
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Speaker 1: gave up one hundred fifty nine rushing guys. Let me
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Speaker 1: make a note here, the Raiders didn't play their starters either.
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Speaker 1: They agree with that, I'm just making a statement. They
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Speaker 1: gave up an the running back play, Josh Jacobs was
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Speaker 1: running like a deer all over, wasn't that? How about
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Speaker 1: that that he actually played? Then there was speculation, Oh,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to trade him, so showcasing him. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but the way then he's a frontline guy,
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Speaker 1: top NFL running back that was playing in the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame game. Well, what are you doing, Josh McDaniels. Well,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just him running over the Jaguars hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty nine rushing yards the misfits who played well in
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Speaker 1: that game on defense? And who needs to take a
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Speaker 1: step up? You think, well, first and foremost, Trayvon Walker
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Speaker 1: played really well. You know, I mean when when you
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Speaker 1: have all the attention on you to play as well
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Speaker 1: as he did and and played well right out of
18:10
Speaker 1: the gate. You know. The very first play was the
18:12
Speaker 1: power rush that he had against the left tackle, which
18:16
Speaker 1: that guy is normally the starting right tackle, so but
18:19
Speaker 1: he powered him back into the lap of the quarterback.
18:22
Speaker 1: Comes off and hits the quarterback and uh in the
18:25
Speaker 1: chest and gets penalized for what they believe was a
18:29
Speaker 1: blow to the head and neck carry which it wasn't
18:31
Speaker 1: the case, but it looked that way. I could understand
18:34
Speaker 1: why the official thought that it was. And he comes
18:37
Speaker 1: back later and he has a sack. He was excellent
18:41
Speaker 1: as far as chasing the ball down the line of scriptage, disengaging,
18:46
Speaker 1: getting off of the blocks, and being active, you know,
18:49
Speaker 1: so I like, I like his start. Yeah, it was
18:51
Speaker 1: a really really good start. Uh. I thought Tyson Campbell
18:55
Speaker 1: played pretty solid. Was glad to see that there was
18:58
Speaker 1: no uh injury that you know, a little concerned there
19:02
Speaker 1: for a little bit. And and Doug Peterson actually talked
19:05
Speaker 1: about that this week too, that he kind of not
19:08
Speaker 1: that he had to prove anything to him, but it
19:10
Speaker 1: told him something about his personality that he didn't have
19:13
Speaker 1: to go back in the Hall of Fame game, but
19:15
Speaker 1: he wanted to go back and prove that he was
19:17
Speaker 1: ready to go back. So Doug put him back in
19:19
Speaker 1: the game and couldn't tell if it was a shoulder
19:22
Speaker 1: or an arm or whatever it was that they were
19:24
Speaker 1: trying to kind of, you know, get he was loosening
19:26
Speaker 1: up that left arm shoulder quite a bit. And the
19:30
Speaker 1: other guy I thought that played pretty well was Andre Cisco.
19:33
Speaker 1: Had some really nice opportunities in the open field and
19:37
Speaker 1: and was clutch. I mean, you look the the name
19:40
Speaker 1: of the position that he played, safety a self explanatory.
19:44
Speaker 1: You have to be able to make tackles in the
19:46
Speaker 1: open field because you're the safety valve. You're the one
19:49
Speaker 1: that prevents touchdowns. And the Raiders got a couple runs,
19:52
Speaker 1: it got out, and Andre Cisco did an excellent job
19:56
Speaker 1: of bringing down good runners. And there's Josh j It
20:00
Speaker 1: was in the open field. I mean, that's a really
20:02
Speaker 1: good football player that he tackles in the open field.
20:05
Speaker 1: I think that's Josh Jacobs. And Cisco has had an
20:09
Speaker 1: excellent camp, excellent camp. And here's the thing, we haven't
20:15
Speaker 1: even seen much of what he does best last year. No,
20:19
Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking about this year in camp. You know
20:22
Speaker 1: what we've seen in from my perspective, what he does
20:27
Speaker 1: best is when he's around the ball. This guy is
20:30
Speaker 1: a ball hawk. He's got excellent ball skills. Uh. Somehow
20:35
Speaker 1: somebody put him on the defensive side of the ball
20:38
Speaker 1: when he was young, when he probably should have been
20:41
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball because he's got
20:43
Speaker 1: excellent hands, he's got great anticipation. You heard Trevor talking
20:48
Speaker 1: about it this week, to where Trevor said that he
20:52
Speaker 1: takes educated guesses. I guess you could say chances, but uh,
20:58
Speaker 1: you don't take chances from position. You take calculated risks.
21:03
Speaker 1: And some of the best in the business were Paula
21:07
Speaker 1: Malu and Ed Reid. I mean, these guys sometimes weren't
21:10
Speaker 1: anywhere near where their responsibility was at exactly. They weren't guessing.
21:20
Speaker 1: They were educated decisions. I think it's a better way
21:24
Speaker 1: to put it, and I think I'm not trying to
21:27
Speaker 1: compare Cisco to those two guys. That would be awesome
21:31
Speaker 1: making news. Jeff Logavan says after one quarter of the
21:36
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game that Cisco He's got a ways
21:40
Speaker 1: to go, but I like I like his skill set,
21:42
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about him. Look here's the reality. He
21:45
Speaker 1: put him Enticon Campbell and in the secondary for a
21:49
Speaker 1: long period of time. You're talking two really good football players.
21:54
Speaker 1: You'll take that. In a minute. Let's hear from Andre Cisco.
21:58
Speaker 1: It's always fun to hear him talk. He was at
22:01
Speaker 1: the podium earlier this week, and of course we talked
22:03
Speaker 1: earlier the offensive perspective of that live tackling period on Sunday.
22:08
Speaker 1: How about Andre Cisco's perspective of that Sunday practice. So
22:14
Speaker 1: it was first play, um and he was on the
22:16
Speaker 1: sideline tips all I know, we made eye contact, so
22:20
Speaker 1: it wasn't cheap, but uh, you know, it's it's good
22:22
Speaker 1: work thought getting that live work. I was. I was
22:24
Speaker 1: glad that coach said we don't go um you know
22:27
Speaker 1: me and Travis good. Uh No, I really didn't think
22:29
Speaker 1: I hit him, now are It was the reaction from
22:31
Speaker 1: like Ray Sewan and everything like yeah, I was like
22:33
Speaker 1: I hit him like dad and it was like, yeah,
22:34
Speaker 1: you hit him my dad. So and I saw film.
22:37
Speaker 1: It was it was decent. I feel too bad though.
22:41
Speaker 1: He also said that hey, all he heard was Doug
22:44
Speaker 1: Peterson say we're live, and it was odd. Well, I
22:48
Speaker 1: will say I think andre Cisco held back a little bit. Okay, Yeah,
22:52
Speaker 1: I don't think. You know, like I said, you know,
22:54
Speaker 1: even though it's live, you have to your teammates and
22:57
Speaker 1: understand it. That were your teammates exactly. I mean, so
23:00
Speaker 1: he could have really smoked him but I mean he
23:03
Speaker 1: backed off a little bit. By the way, I think
23:04
Speaker 1: earlier I said it was Ray Shaun I got the
23:06
Speaker 1: other tackle. Thank you Chris for the reminder it was
23:09
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon who And by the way, Trey Herndon's having
23:12
Speaker 1: a strong camp too, so good for him. And with
23:15
Speaker 1: an opportunity with Darius Williams out with injury, more opportunities
23:21
Speaker 1: for Trey Herndon, and he he looks like he's taken
23:25
Speaker 1: excellent advantage of it. You know, he's got some limitations,
23:29
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon. Does I know that in years past Trey
23:33
Speaker 1: Hernon's and you had Claybrooks, and the defense was a
23:37
Speaker 1: little predictable sometimes because Trey would be the nickel when
23:40
Speaker 1: they went and played zone and then they would insert
23:43
Speaker 1: Claybrooks hoping the opponent wouldn't recognize when they wanted to
23:46
Speaker 1: play Mahn And I was like, well, I think they
23:50
Speaker 1: could probably figure that out. But but I think Trey
23:54
Speaker 1: has taken some step up, steps up, and he's been
23:58
Speaker 1: very good tackling. So he's he's making a case and
24:02
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be a guy that's got to
24:04
Speaker 1: to make a strong case on special teams because the
24:07
Speaker 1: starting roles are probably gonna be filled up. So when
24:10
Speaker 1: you get past the starting the starting guys, sometimes the
24:14
Speaker 1: decision on who to keep is not necessarily made on
24:17
Speaker 1: who's the next best starter, but who's the next best
24:20
Speaker 1: player that we can have that's going to contribute on
24:23
Speaker 1: special teams. And sometimes that's a little bit confusing for
24:27
Speaker 1: players because they're always so concerned about the positional battles
24:32
Speaker 1: that they're in, sometimes they can lose sight of how
24:34
Speaker 1: important so special teams and h you know, I've said
24:37
Speaker 1: this before that Bill Belichick cars out very specific roles
24:41
Speaker 1: for guys on his roster, and when he knows that
24:44
Speaker 1: a guy is not going to be playing regular snaps
24:46
Speaker 1: on offense or defense, he's going to get the best
24:50
Speaker 1: player for the role that they're gonna play, and that
24:52
Speaker 1: role is not as a starter, where some coaches and
24:55
Speaker 1: gentle managers making the decisions to keep that person based
24:58
Speaker 1: on is the our next best star order, Well, that's
25:01
Speaker 1: not always the best decision for the organization. Let's come
25:04
Speaker 1: back and we'll get into a couple of the defensive
25:07
Speaker 1: editions in this offseason and free agency that could make
25:10
Speaker 1: their Jags debut in the preseason tomorrow night, a linebacker
25:14
Speaker 1: and a defensive lineman. Well, because I think you might
25:17
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, I might. Well, we'll see
25:20
Speaker 1: you might have answer. I think I gave enough hints. Yeah,
25:25
Speaker 1: you know, you might need to help me just a
25:27
Speaker 1: little bit. We'll help you. On the other side of
25:29
Speaker 1: this time out, we'll have the injury report as well.
25:32
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25:43
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Hi, hold on, hold on,
25:59
Speaker 1: hold on l Nichols World. Every time I did look
26:14
Speaker 1: at how you getting back? How are you getting bad? Boy? Y'all?
26:31
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26:37
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game in Canton last Thursday, and you
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26:47
Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. That's Jeff Flagman, Joe Fortunado, Brent
26:51
Speaker 1: Reeber along with us our entire Jaguars radio and digital crew. Uh. Hey,
26:57
Speaker 1: you know I teased, as they called in the business
27:00
Speaker 1: before the break, two defensive additions and free agency that
27:03
Speaker 1: could make their Jaguars debut in the preseason tomorrow night. Okay,
27:08
Speaker 1: do you have who they are? Um, let's see Foyer,
27:12
Speaker 1: Louis Khan, Yes, Lucan, Yes, linebacker that the Jaguars were
27:17
Speaker 1: able to acquire from the Atlanta Falcons. He led the
27:19
Speaker 1: league in tackles list. He's very active, and I think
27:25
Speaker 1: it's an upgrade from Miles Jack Myles Jack had He
27:28
Speaker 1: really had a lot of bright moments, but the inconsistencies
27:33
Speaker 1: really with Miles was very frustrating. Sometimes he would have
27:36
Speaker 1: some mental breakdowns. And with Foyer, that's the one thing
27:40
Speaker 1: that he is not known for. He's known for being consistent, productive,
27:44
Speaker 1: high motor, looking forward to watching him play. He went
27:48
Speaker 1: to Yale for goodness sake. So he's a smart guy. Well,
27:51
Speaker 1: I'll say that I don't think they have the what
27:55
Speaker 1: do they used to call those guys used to get
27:56
Speaker 1: into school, weren't very smart. Probably it was like prop
28:01
Speaker 1: forty eight or Propt eight. They don't do that yet. Know,
28:05
Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. He's a smart guy. And and uh,
28:08
Speaker 1: you talked to him yet or heard him talk yet.
28:10
Speaker 1: I have listened to him and he he's great. Yeah,
28:13
Speaker 1: he's great. He's everything you would expect, natural leader, very
28:18
Speaker 1: vocal on the football field. I'm excited to see him.
28:21
Speaker 1: However long he plays, maybe a couple of drives, but
28:23
Speaker 1: get him out there. Who else? Who's the other guy? Uh?
28:27
Speaker 1: Could Fotokasi play? Maybe? Yeah? Maybe? Alright, I had the
28:30
Speaker 1: big defensive lineman that they were able to acquire from
28:33
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. He's he was a little on
28:38
Speaker 1: the side kind of his training camp started. And um,
28:43
Speaker 1: I don't want to say slow to pick ut up,
28:44
Speaker 1: because I mean, when you're not practicing sometimes it's more difficult.
28:47
Speaker 1: Some people are hands on. They gotta be on the
28:49
Speaker 1: field to learn practicing and uh. And then he participated
28:53
Speaker 1: in practice over the weekend, the practices that we saw
28:56
Speaker 1: the first part of the week, so we could see
28:59
Speaker 1: him make his debut. And he's gonna be an integral
29:01
Speaker 1: part of this defense. He is at an immediate starter. Oh,
29:06
Speaker 1: they paid him thirty million dollars. So yeah, and nowadays,
29:10
Speaker 1: nowadays JP, you can't look at the size of the
29:12
Speaker 1: money and go, well, he's an immediate starter. There's some
29:15
Speaker 1: guys that are doing there's some guys that are rotational
29:17
Speaker 1: players that are getting paid a ton of money, you know,
29:20
Speaker 1: I mean, especially along the defensive line. But he's he's
29:23
Speaker 1: a legit starter. He's a three down player. There are
29:26
Speaker 1: times I think that when I when you get to
29:28
Speaker 1: that third down, then he's gonna be out, and they
29:30
Speaker 1: probably opt to go to some guys that might be
29:33
Speaker 1: a little bit lighter, Ardent Key uh Fred or Duane Smooth.
29:39
Speaker 1: I mean, some of those guys that can maybe do
29:42
Speaker 1: a little bit more and be when you when you
29:45
Speaker 1: get a little bit creative as a defensive coordinator and
29:47
Speaker 1: you start mixing things up a little bit, you want
29:49
Speaker 1: guys that can do some different things to where you
29:52
Speaker 1: might be able to full quarterbacks and offensive coordinators. But
29:56
Speaker 1: he's a he's gonna be a big part of his
29:57
Speaker 1: defensive success. And then right now, J Pete, that's probably
30:01
Speaker 1: the one position on this defense that really hasn't had
30:05
Speaker 1: anybody stand up yet. Defensive line. Yeah, defense, and I'm
30:10
Speaker 1: talking what what I mean, I'm talking about the big guys,
30:14
Speaker 1: not the outside linebacker. Yeah, I'm talking about Okay, when
30:18
Speaker 1: when they're playing bass defense and they got three big
30:21
Speaker 1: bodies out on the field, you know what, nose tackle
30:24
Speaker 1: and then a defensive end and the defensive end. Now,
30:27
Speaker 1: you would expect Roy Robertson Harris to kind of pick
30:30
Speaker 1: up where you left off and hopefully take another step
30:32
Speaker 1: and get better this year. But I mean, Malcolm Brown
30:37
Speaker 1: kind of okay play had a good year last year.
30:41
Speaker 1: Have you seen him flash yet? No camp. Have you
30:45
Speaker 1: seen Roy Robertson Harris flash yet? Not a specially? Yeah,
30:49
Speaker 1: I mean that's my point is that, but is that
30:51
Speaker 1: a should you see that often though? Damn right? Yeah, yeah,
30:58
Speaker 1: that would be your definition a a flash or a
31:02
Speaker 1: standout at that position at a training camp practice, all
31:04
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there it goes number one to go
31:06
Speaker 1: through the line of scrimmage and whamo, the quarterback sacked
31:10
Speaker 1: and get sacked by you know, a big guy or
31:13
Speaker 1: a quarterback or a tackle for loss or something. Yeah, something.
31:17
Speaker 1: You just you haven't seen a lot of that. So
31:19
Speaker 1: I think that that position and look, the reality is
31:23
Speaker 1: that you've drafted that position in the last couple of
31:27
Speaker 1: years and J two fell a Davon Hamilton. You've tried
31:32
Speaker 1: to address that. You've given some draft equity to that position,
31:36
Speaker 1: nobody has really risen up yet, and so can one
31:40
Speaker 1: of those guys step up? I hope so, because you
31:42
Speaker 1: really need that. But I mean, right now, if if
31:46
Speaker 1: I had to say, okay, next year, what's the one
31:49
Speaker 1: position the Jaguars are gonna go and and really concentrate
31:52
Speaker 1: on the draft, that may be number one at the top. Well,
31:56
Speaker 1: when I say number one time, I'm not talking when
31:58
Speaker 1: you say again, see I don't can put all this
32:01
Speaker 1: like you just said. It was a third in the
32:05
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. But I mean you're you need to
32:08
Speaker 1: find somebody along the lines that's that that dominant inside
32:13
Speaker 1: pass rusher, that's a big body. And and look, I
32:17
Speaker 1: know that they don't grow on trees. They're hard to find.
32:21
Speaker 1: But if you had to pick one position that you
32:24
Speaker 1: really need, I mean, look, you need a legitimate top
32:28
Speaker 1: in number one wide receiver. But everybody says that. But
32:32
Speaker 1: if you want to be really good on defense, you've
32:34
Speaker 1: got some guys on the outside. They can play, you know,
32:39
Speaker 1: they can play on the outside. You gotta find somebody
32:42
Speaker 1: on the inside. Time. Now for the injury report presented
32:46
Speaker 1: by Baptist Health and the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, The official
32:50
Speaker 1: sports medicine provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, these are
32:54
Speaker 1: players and individual drills only or off to the side
32:58
Speaker 1: or likely not playing. The do official injury reports in
33:01
Speaker 1: the preseason and training camp, and they actually don't do
33:04
Speaker 1: official inactives. There's just players not dressed. But Jamal Agnew
33:09
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson said, likely won't go tomorrow. Devn Lloyd the
33:13
Speaker 1: same thing could be back in teamwork next week, Peterson said.
33:17
Speaker 1: James Robinson still trying to work his way back Lebiscus
33:20
Speaker 1: Channault also the same thing. Didn't play last week, likely
33:24
Speaker 1: not tomorrow. Darius Willms is getting back into some team
33:27
Speaker 1: activity but not quite ready for the games yet. And
33:30
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk added to that list. He's turned an ankle
33:33
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with him tomorrow night. Yeah,
33:35
Speaker 1: I was pretty concerned because that was Monday's practice that
33:39
Speaker 1: the ankle will kind of you know, he got up
33:42
Speaker 1: limping a little bit. By the way, if people are
33:44
Speaker 1: wondering what the maybe the feedback is coming in from
33:47
Speaker 1: our microphones there, I guess testing the sound system here,
33:52
Speaker 1: I guess at ever banking, guess what it works are
33:56
Speaker 1: our walls are literally shaken in here right base and
34:00
Speaker 1: it's like through the hallway, unbelievable the amount a new
34:03
Speaker 1: speaker right outside our studio here. You might add a
34:07
Speaker 1: few more to this injury report with some hearing issues
34:11
Speaker 1: bad enough as it is, I'm like half death as
34:13
Speaker 1: it is. Well, there's a game to more to night,
34:15
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear him before you see him. It
34:18
Speaker 1: sounds like. So there you have it. That's the injury report,
34:21
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, we've been pretty fortunate early in camp.
34:26
Speaker 1: Nothing to major knock on wood has happened, and uh,
34:29
Speaker 1: let's keep it that way with this game tomor night. Well,
34:31
Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson has run what I think has been
34:35
Speaker 1: a pretty demanding camp when I when I say pretty
34:39
Speaker 1: demanding as far as I mean the rules only allow
34:41
Speaker 1: you to do so much. But I think Doug has
34:44
Speaker 1: done a really good job as far as making what
34:49
Speaker 1: he can, you know, practice wives make it demanding, you know,
34:52
Speaker 1: having a couple of practices where you're gonna do live periods,
34:55
Speaker 1: that's good, it's good. And some of those practices, like
34:58
Speaker 1: the Monday practice which was the day after that life
35:01
Speaker 1: practice that they had that was two and a half
35:04
Speaker 1: hour you know full pads and the heat. Uh, that
35:09
Speaker 1: was grind. It was that was grind and that that
35:12
Speaker 1: that's good. I mean, I I appreciate that because there's
35:18
Speaker 1: no shortcuts in football. There's not. And I don't want
35:21
Speaker 1: to sound like I'm preaching up here, but there's not.
35:24
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to do the work when you
35:27
Speaker 1: when you practice, you get better by practicing your craft,
35:31
Speaker 1: and that's by playing football. You get better at football.
35:34
Speaker 1: And the only way to get better is to get
35:36
Speaker 1: some simulation that's close to what the game speed is
35:40
Speaker 1: gonna be, because that's how you refine your techniques. That's
35:44
Speaker 1: how you refine some of your physical prowess, that your abilities.
35:49
Speaker 1: You understand what you can and can't do, and that's
35:52
Speaker 1: that happens in practice. And if you don't get those
35:54
Speaker 1: opportunities in practice, then all of a sudden, you go
35:57
Speaker 1: into the regular season and you're still trying to figure
36:00
Speaker 1: some of those things out. We'll look. The reality is
36:02
Speaker 1: they're they're they're counting in a regular season. Okay, the
36:06
Speaker 1: scores are growing up, okay, and wins and losses get posted.
36:10
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Speaker 1: Digital Network. I think I'm a lot that are uh like,
36:57
Speaker 1: I'm a lot smarter, stronger, fast there. I got more
37:01
Speaker 1: skilled work on my skill set, you know, a lot
37:03
Speaker 1: during off season, and um, you know, I'm just more confident.
37:07
Speaker 1: So I think Ardo is just helping become a better
37:09
Speaker 1: player and also the great coach that he brought in.
37:11
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a spurting silken and everything they
37:14
Speaker 1: tell me and and competing with these other guys acrossing me.
37:19
Speaker 1: So I'm just getting better every day. That is Tyson Campbell,
37:23
Speaker 1: second year cornerback for the Jaguars. Welcome back Jaguars Happy
37:27
Speaker 1: Hour on a Thursday afternoon J P. Shadrick with Jeff Logoman.
37:31
Speaker 1: Yet another guy like talking to on this team. He
37:35
Speaker 1: got it when he came in as a rookie. You
37:37
Speaker 1: gotta remember where he grew up down in South Florida,
37:40
Speaker 1: playing high school football under Pats Or Tan and I
37:44
Speaker 1: went to high school with his son, and of course
37:47
Speaker 1: went to Georgia and had some good years with the
37:49
Speaker 1: Bulldogs there. So the mindset of a cornerback was instilled
37:54
Speaker 1: pretty early for him, and uh, he gets it now.
37:57
Speaker 1: He's pretty much all business logs, but um, it's good
38:01
Speaker 1: business and it's a good thing to have him on
38:03
Speaker 1: this team. Well. I think he's impressive because he's got
38:06
Speaker 1: a great work ethic, he's got a great mindset, and
38:09
Speaker 1: he's got a physical tool set and when you combine
38:13
Speaker 1: all of that, that's pretty impressive. And his length is
38:17
Speaker 1: really what impresses me. When you have the lengthen and
38:20
Speaker 1: you have the athletic ability to go along with that.
38:23
Speaker 1: You know, look for years, Gus Bradley when he was
38:26
Speaker 1: here and and all of the disciples that came from
38:29
Speaker 1: that defense of Seattle, they all wanted the corners that
38:33
Speaker 1: had the size and the length, right, I mean that's
38:37
Speaker 1: that was their mold. Who doesn't They would try, actually
38:40
Speaker 1: try and and bring guys in that were six two
38:43
Speaker 1: plus just to find that length. And some of those
38:46
Speaker 1: guys aren't the actual The most fleet is to foot
38:51
Speaker 1: and so it's difficult to find the length and to
38:53
Speaker 1: speed combination. But Tyson Campbell is that combination and he's
38:57
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And you know, I don't know how
38:59
Speaker 1: how good can be. You know, is he gonna be
39:02
Speaker 1: or can he be a true shutdown corner. I don't
39:06
Speaker 1: know if he can become that, like a lockdown man.
39:09
Speaker 1: You know, you're Darrell Rivas, you know Rivas Island thing.
39:13
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's him, but I think he
39:16
Speaker 1: can be really good. I mean and look, Rivas Island.
39:19
Speaker 1: I mean that's like Hall of Fame guy. Yeah, Darrell Rivas.
39:23
Speaker 1: I've heard of him. I mean, yes, I'm aware. So
39:26
Speaker 1: look if he doesn't get to that level, but he
39:28
Speaker 1: gets close to that, hey we'll take you take it
39:30
Speaker 1: all day long. You know, he made it play the
39:33
Speaker 1: in camp the other day the other week, I guess
39:35
Speaker 1: and knocked the ball away and I think his line was,
39:40
Speaker 1: it's like Chick fil A on Sunday over here, close,
39:44
Speaker 1: close down. I love that. Yeah, sometimes after remind myself
39:49
Speaker 1: when I traveled back and forth from Georgia a little bit,
39:52
Speaker 1: there's my favorite stop is the Chick fil A on
39:54
Speaker 1: the way, and then when it's the Sunday, I have
39:56
Speaker 1: to remember it's closed for business. But he has said
40:00
Speaker 1: that a few times, and he kind of joked around
40:02
Speaker 1: that and said that he has been using that line
40:06
Speaker 1: for quite some time. He said, but nobody ever paid
40:08
Speaker 1: attention yet. Pretty good. Yeah, that's even a better line.
40:11
Speaker 1: That's a better line than Hey, let's take a look
40:15
Speaker 1: at the Miller Electric Center outside t i a A
40:18
Speaker 1: bank field if you're watching on Jaguars dot com Jaguars
40:21
Speaker 1: social media. Oh, the footprints coming along nicely. They are.
40:27
Speaker 1: It looks like they're putting roof on top of it now,
40:29
Speaker 1: which is nice. They've got some flooring going in. They
40:32
Speaker 1: got these pre engineered walls. Yes, they go up, and
40:36
Speaker 1: so when they start to put them in, it just
40:39
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like bam, it's built. You know.
40:42
Speaker 1: They got the the red iron steel construction with these
40:46
Speaker 1: pre manufactured walls that go up and then they support
40:49
Speaker 1: them and they tie everything in. But yeah, this Uh,
40:52
Speaker 1: this thing is rolling because the last like a week ago,
40:55
Speaker 1: I came here and then all of a sudden, this
40:57
Speaker 1: week I go there and that the roof part is
40:59
Speaker 1: going on. You're what it's coming coming in less than
41:04
Speaker 1: a year now, it will be a square feeders thousand
41:08
Speaker 1: square feeders. I mean it's monstrous. It is. How many
41:13
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings do you remember how many? It was
41:16
Speaker 1: big too, So we we got we got a chance
41:19
Speaker 1: to see that firsthand when the Jaguars practiced against the
41:23
Speaker 1: Vikings prior to the preseason game. And their facility steady
41:28
Speaker 1: the art, brand new, and and literally it's like a
41:31
Speaker 1: whole campus. They have a stadium, they've got this training facility.
41:37
Speaker 1: They have like a j O I you know, surgical
41:41
Speaker 1: center attached to this campus. I mean, it's it's big
41:45
Speaker 1: time up there in Minnesota. It was nice, very nice.
41:48
Speaker 1: This will be also nice and it will be ready
41:50
Speaker 1: for training camp in three only three more practices at
41:54
Speaker 1: the Episcopal Sports Campus that the Jags are at currently,
41:58
Speaker 1: then they'll move back over here field flex field alternate
42:02
Speaker 1: that as they get ready for the regular season. JP
42:05
Speaker 1: Shadow with Jeff log and the Jaguar is happy Hour
42:07
Speaker 1: the Doug Peterson Show is coming up at the top
42:09
Speaker 1: of the hour or about seven minutes away from that.
42:11
Speaker 1: We'll hear from Doug Peterson from throughout the week. He
42:14
Speaker 1: won't join us tonight, but we'll hear from the coach
42:16
Speaker 1: a good bit on the Jaguars Radio Network. The Browns
42:19
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars coming up tomorrow night at t I A.
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Speaker 1: Bank Field seven o'clock. Kickoff time four o'clock for the
42:26
Speaker 1: public Stailgate Show on tinton XL and ninety two point
42:29
Speaker 1: five FM, and the Jaguars social channels Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
42:34
Speaker 1: Six o'clock, it's countdown to kickoff. On the Jaguars Radio Network,
42:38
Speaker 1: we'll hear from Charles Davis of the NFL on CBS
42:42
Speaker 1: NFL Network and Serious XM Radio. Always great to visit with.
42:45
Speaker 1: It does and he's a fantastic analyst. On top of that, Yeah,
42:50
Speaker 1: I've known Charles for a long time and he does
42:53
Speaker 1: a great job. He he does his homework and he
42:57
Speaker 1: passes on the information in a very eloquent way. I'm
43:00
Speaker 1: a big fan of his, no doubt. So we'll hear
43:02
Speaker 1: from him throughout tomorrow evening leading into the game. Deshaun
43:06
Speaker 1: Watson expected to start for the Cleveland Browns, depending on
43:11
Speaker 1: if the league institutes the indefinite suspension before the game.
43:14
Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't seen a report whether he's on the
43:17
Speaker 1: plane or not, because they would fly down today, but
43:21
Speaker 1: he's expected to start at least as of right now
43:23
Speaker 1: five minutes to five. What a circus. I mean, if
43:26
Speaker 1: if you're a Cleveland Browns member, I mean, the distraction
43:31
Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson is immense. And if you're a coach
43:35
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns and you're trying to get a
43:37
Speaker 1: football team ready for a regular season, I mean, this
43:40
Speaker 1: is not exactly the way you draw it up. You
43:43
Speaker 1: go out and you sign a player. First of all,
43:44
Speaker 1: that's a topic and a debate right there, where ownership
43:49
Speaker 1: essentially agrees to give a sex offender two thirty million
43:53
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed, and as now he hasn't been convicted. But
43:57
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, when you settle case after case after
44:00
Speaker 1: case after case after case, having to keep going six
44:04
Speaker 1: times or whatever, I mean, how do you give a
44:07
Speaker 1: guy like that two million dollar guaranteed? And how do
44:10
Speaker 1: you give him a contract that essentially only exposes one
44:15
Speaker 1: million of those two d thirty million dollars in year one,
44:18
Speaker 1: knowing that he's gonna have some type of of a suspension.
44:22
Speaker 1: I just think it's embarrassing. To me. That's embarrassing. And
44:26
Speaker 1: if I was a Cleveland Browns fan, I would have
44:29
Speaker 1: a hard time with that. And the Commissioner obviously has
44:33
Speaker 1: a hard time with that. With that, he came out
44:36
Speaker 1: and had some very strong words, as he did at
44:38
Speaker 1: the owners meetings this week, very strong words. And so
44:42
Speaker 1: now he's appointed another former judge to hear this. Um,
44:49
Speaker 1: it's another hearing or appeal or whatever you wanna call it.
44:54
Speaker 1: And and and I got some friends of mine that
44:56
Speaker 1: were very curious about this whole process. And and people
45:00
Speaker 1: need to understand because they were like, Okay, well, then
45:02
Speaker 1: they agreed to having a third party have a ruling
45:04
Speaker 1: on this. Well, that's in the collective bargaining agreement, okay.
45:10
Speaker 1: In a collective bargaining agreement, says is that a third
45:13
Speaker 1: party has the hearing and then issues of determination for
45:18
Speaker 1: the punishment, but the Commissioner and or someone he appoints
45:23
Speaker 1: retains the right for an appeal or to change the
45:27
Speaker 1: final punishment decision. And and I I don't have a
45:31
Speaker 1: problem with that because that's what's collectively bargained. And so
45:35
Speaker 1: they the judge of MS Sue Robinson issues this six
45:39
Speaker 1: game suspension. NFL p A wants that to be the
45:42
Speaker 1: final decision. Commissioner Goodell says, no, we want to have
45:46
Speaker 1: an appeal. We don't think it's enough. He wants a year,
45:49
Speaker 1: and so you have now have another former judge that's
45:51
Speaker 1: gonna issue an opinion on that. And uh, I would
45:56
Speaker 1: be surprised if his decision is not a full year.
46:00
Speaker 1: You're getting paid by the league, correct, So why would
46:06
Speaker 1: they he not issue an agreement that would be more
46:09
Speaker 1: in line with what the league wants. I mean, don't
46:12
Speaker 1: you want to stay on retainer of the NFL for
46:16
Speaker 1: future things of that issue? Oh? I know? Is that
46:20
Speaker 1: you know? But it's the biggest story in the league.
46:22
Speaker 1: It's huge, it's huge. It's only four cases. There's only
46:27
Speaker 1: six hours. What I'm bad at math? Twenty six hours
46:31
Speaker 1: until the game? You are bet at math? So, uh,
46:34
Speaker 1: there's a clock with hands. I had to read it twice.
46:37
Speaker 1: So so that that's how much time they have to
46:41
Speaker 1: maybe do that appeal or change it or whatever. And
46:44
Speaker 1: who knows what happens in that time? Yeah, I don't know,
46:46
Speaker 1: but but I would expect that the the reception of
46:51
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. I'm sure he's gonna here and see some
46:55
Speaker 1: very creative things, whether it's here or anywhere else that
46:59
Speaker 1: he decides to play out or is allowed to play
47:02
Speaker 1: at this year. But yeah, I mean, I just can't
47:05
Speaker 1: imagine being on the Cleveland Browns and you're like, you
47:07
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with your quarterback. You don't
47:09
Speaker 1: know who's gonna play for you for when you start
47:11
Speaker 1: the opener, you definitely know that it's not going to
47:13
Speaker 1: be Deshaun Watson. And so if you gets suspended for
47:16
Speaker 1: a year, are they going to be in the market
47:18
Speaker 1: for Jimmy Garoppolo or or what. But I mean, it's
47:21
Speaker 1: just it's there's a term that I could probably say
47:24
Speaker 1: what it is, and it's it's there's a word and
47:26
Speaker 1: then a show that's that's going on in Cleveland. I'm
47:29
Speaker 1: not gonna say exactly what the first word is, but
47:32
Speaker 1: people can figure it out because Cleveland's a mess, and
47:35
Speaker 1: it's because they went out and signed DeShawn Watson. The
47:37
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks on the roster are Jacobe Brissette, Josh Dobbs,
47:42
Speaker 1: who we know well. And Josh Jobs is not a
47:44
Speaker 1: very good Josh Rosen. By the way, we gave up
47:47
Speaker 1: like a sixth round pick to get him or something.
47:49
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing defensively, Myles Garrett, Tavn Bryan,
47:53
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. I'm gonna tell you that the stud of
47:59
Speaker 1: that defense, Iss Garrett, you want to talk about, I
48:01
Speaker 1: mean left out Tavin Bryan. Uh. Like I said, Myles Garrett,
48:06
Speaker 1: stud Tavin Bryant. Um, they can have him, but we'll
48:12
Speaker 1: see him. They can have him. I think they're planning
48:15
Speaker 1: on playing. You might get an all sides. Ball goes
48:20
Speaker 1: this way, he's running that way. It's not ideal. So
48:24
Speaker 1: that's that's what's coming up tomorrow night. Cleveland Browns. Uh,
48:28
Speaker 1: come out Taven strong as an ox man. He couldn't
48:31
Speaker 1: find the ball, and I was hoping he would. I
48:34
Speaker 1: kept hoping every year, thinking that he would get or
48:37
Speaker 1: gain some instincts, some ball awareness, instincts, and I kept
48:42
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, sometimes that comes with experience, but
48:47
Speaker 1: not in his case. So tomorrow night it's the bank
48:51
Speaker 1: opening for the first time in the two preseason the
48:55
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and the Jacksonville, Jaguars seven o'clock. Looking forward
48:59
Speaker 1: to it under the lights logs can't wait for this. Well, look,
49:02
Speaker 1: starters are out there, the whole thing, and there's a
49:05
Speaker 1: lot of things to watch. But the guy that you
49:08
Speaker 1: really is the one you want to watch and you're
49:11
Speaker 1: hoping to see the most out of is Trevor Lawrence.
49:15
Speaker 1: I think that that's what you're talking about. A franchise quarterback,
49:18
Speaker 1: you know, Ken, Doug Peterson, take him on this journey
49:22
Speaker 1: that's going to allow him to develop into a franchise quarterback.
49:26
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get a glimpse tomorrow night to see
49:28
Speaker 1: if if if they're on the right path. Yes, we
49:31
Speaker 1: will our first opportunity that's tomorrow night, coming up, the
49:34
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. For our
49:37
Speaker 1: entire crew, I'm JP Shadrick. This has been Jaguars Happy
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