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The pill makes women horny for girlie men | Rantzerker 244 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you live from deep within now sort of
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  Speaker 1: rainy but also nicely warm, radioactive wasteland. We are the
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  Speaker 1: survivors of the alt right keck pococalyip keck Apocalypse, the few,
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  Speaker 1: the brave of the bitchy, once more, wading into battle
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  Speaker 1: against the pill boy froggy hordes with the pill makes
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  Speaker 1: women horny for girly men ran Zerker number two four four.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be your host, Alison, and with me is the
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  Speaker 1: indomitable Karen. And in the void, a voice coming from
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  Speaker 1: the void is Brian. So let's let's just get started.
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  Speaker 1: Let's cueue up the Twitter, the tweets, the the exeter,
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  Speaker 1: the exer whatever we calling it now.
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  Speaker 2: And let's the study that's that's getting popularity and more
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  Speaker 2: widely known that women on birth control that actually changes
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  Speaker 2: your your hormones and your traction.
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  Speaker 3: So women who are on birth control, and this is
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  Speaker 3: this is more. There's more Democrats who are on birth
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  Speaker 3: control than conservatives because of some religious reasons, but it
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  Speaker 3: actually changes who're attracted to. And there's there's multiple reports
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  Speaker 3: you could just google this if you weren't aware of this,
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  Speaker 3: of girls who like leave birth control when they want
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  Speaker 3: to start families or just decide to do a different
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  Speaker 3: sort of method of pregnancy prevention that they leave their
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  Speaker 3: partners because they're not attracted them, because birth control makes
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  Speaker 3: you attracted to betas, and women if they're natural not
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  Speaker 3: on birth control, they're actually attracted to more alpha cave
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  Speaker 3: men providers protectors, but birth control changes how they're That's
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  Speaker 3: why they like like the soyboy beta, the more effeminate
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  Speaker 3: metro you know type guys. Are you familiar with this data?
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  Speaker 4: My mouth is hanging open, No, but I mean it
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  Speaker 4: makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's logical because it has to do with the hormone
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  Speaker 1: levels and that's what birth control is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just it's a growing study that indicates
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  Speaker 3: that women who are on birth control that's why they
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  Speaker 3: like these betas and why our society is becoming more
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  Speaker 3: pacified because of birth control and women. And it's actually
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  Speaker 3: kind of concerning because it doesn't it's changing our culture
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  Speaker 3: and our values because of birth control, and it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of fascinating but also scary because what does that mean.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people on birth control and now
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  Speaker 3: we're changing our society away from men who are you know,
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  Speaker 3: alprovier protectors, you know, doers, builders for these you know,
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  Speaker 3: these feminate, you know, girly boys. I mean, it's very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that was Minnesota GOP senatorial candidate Adam Schwartze.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that's correct, me if that's wrong. And he's
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  Speaker 1: talking about how the birth control pill changes women's desires
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  Speaker 1: and attractions to men. So just a bit of background,
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  Speaker 1: I want to point out that we had a guest
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  Speaker 1: at the International Conference on Men's Issues in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: in Paladin who did an extensive analysis of the research
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  Speaker 1: behind statements like this. Now, this, this statement is sort
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  Speaker 1: of a little bit i would say, dumbed down for
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  Speaker 1: an audience so that people can sort of ingest the
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  Speaker 1: idea on probably a you know, like a more more
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  Speaker 1: like more a simpler level than what Aiden presented. But
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  Speaker 1: the science is there. It's not exactly what he's saying,
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  Speaker 1: but it is there, and it is showing something very
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  Speaker 1: similar to what he's saying. So but of course, the left,
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  Speaker 1: the status.
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  Speaker 5: That no, the the people who are like follow the science,
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  Speaker 5: right and if you don't believe in.
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  Speaker 4: Science, you're anti science.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't want to look at it because it's
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  Speaker 5: an extremely inconvenient fact, and it correlates with other research
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  Speaker 5: on women who are not on the pill that when
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  Speaker 5: women are approaching ovulation, which is a sort of a
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  Speaker 5: higher androgen state, estrogen is counteracted with higher levels of androgen,
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  Speaker 5: they are more attracted to more masculinized faces and bodies.
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  Speaker 4: And then when they are.
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  Speaker 5: Approaching menstruation, after they've ovulated and their ovulation has been
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  Speaker 5: born no fruit, they become more attracted to the Ryan
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  Speaker 5: Reynolds type of person who's a little bit more effeminate,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit less intimidating.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just how it goes.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's all kinds of research on women's hormone
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  Speaker 5: cycles and attraction, including research on men and what men
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  Speaker 5: are attracted to. And the fact that when women are
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  Speaker 5: approaching ovulation, when they're the most fertile in the three
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  Speaker 5: to four days before ovulation, in the two days or
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  Speaker 5: so after ovulation, they change their gait, how they sway
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  Speaker 5: their hips more.
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  Speaker 4: It's completely subconscious.
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  Speaker 5: And also that men, for some reason, whether it's pheromones
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  Speaker 5: that they detect through their noses or whether it's visual
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  Speaker 5: cues like this, the greater hips way they actually tip
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  Speaker 5: strippers who are on the verge of ovulation more than
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  Speaker 5: they do at any other point in their mental met right.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like strippers earn more when they're about to ovulate, right.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like and that's a completely subconscious transaction that's
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  Speaker 5: completely voluntary on the part of the men who are
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  Speaker 5: sticking the dollar bills in their g strings.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And it's not just this situation where women women might
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  Speaker 5: wake up after they go off the pill because you know,
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  Speaker 5: after being together for four years, right with this that sort.
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  Speaker 4: Of less masculine man that.
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  Speaker 1: She got into a relationship with when she's control when
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  Speaker 1: she was on the pill.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that she might wake up and say and think
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  Speaker 5: to herself, well, I'm not really that attracted to this
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  Speaker 5: guy right now because now she's ovulating and she's trying
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  Speaker 5: and she's probably trying to get pregnant, so she's probably
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  Speaker 5: trying to time her sexual activity with her ovulation cycle, right,
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  Speaker 5: which is the point of lowist attraction to that kind
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  Speaker 5: of man, right.
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  Speaker 4: So and there, but it's not it's not just that.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just that, it's it's that the pill turns
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  Speaker 5: women into lanisters, and that's been known for a long time. Women,
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  Speaker 5: have you know you might if you read any of
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  Speaker 5: my comments or you know, writings about the the mRNA
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  Speaker 5: Gitby Jabby's right, you will see me bringing up something
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  Speaker 5: called the major historic compatibility complex, which is the way
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  Speaker 5: your body at a cellular level recognizes what is self
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  Speaker 5: and what is not self. Right, And there's a mechanism
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  Speaker 5: tied to women's major historic compatibility complex wherein they are
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  Speaker 5: able to identify the optimum sexual partners male sexual partners
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  Speaker 5: based on smell, right, Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the compatible or a different unilogical profile.
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  Speaker 1: So you want a man who compliments your immunologically, you.
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  Speaker 5: Want hybrid vigor in your offspring. You don't want to.
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  Speaker 6: Reproduce with your brother ly inbreed, right so or your cousin.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean like I used to experience this
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  Speaker 5: all the time when I was not on the pill, right,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And I'd be like washing clothes that when
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  Speaker 5: I was living with my parents and'd be washing doing laundry,
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  Speaker 5: and my dad's bath towel, even though it was like
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  Speaker 5: you'd only used it for a week, just it.
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  Speaker 4: Just smelt awful. Right. Same with my sons.
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  Speaker 5: I can't stand the way their bath towels smell and
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just you just kind of know.
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  Speaker 1: But when you so, it's to prevent inbreeding, essentially, and
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  Speaker 1: human beings actually suffer really badly from inbreeding.
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  Speaker 4: Other animals might.
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  Speaker 1: Not as much, but we re do. Within a couple
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  Speaker 1: generations of inbreeding, we're having flipper babies.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, and so it's like you have this situation
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  Speaker 5: where where when a woman is when a woman is
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  Speaker 5: pregnant and when she's nursing, so she's no longer in
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  Speaker 5: danger of becoming pregnant by a relative when she's already pregnant,
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  Speaker 5: and the risks of that are extremely low when she's
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  Speaker 5: breastfeeding and nursing, and historically, like over millennia, that that
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  Speaker 5: can be anywhere from two to four years after giving birth. Right,
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  Speaker 5: that mechanism shuts off because it's in your best interest
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  Speaker 5: as a new mother, as a pregnant woman, and as
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  Speaker 5: a new mother to be around your male kin. You're
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  Speaker 5: not in danger being impregnated by one of them, but
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  Speaker 5: they are probably your most reliable providers and protectors because
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  Speaker 5: they're your kin. Right, So the mechanism turns off because
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  Speaker 5: you don't need it anymore, and because it's in your
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  Speaker 5: best interest to be close, in close proximity to the
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  Speaker 5: people that that that mechanism warns you to not get
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  Speaker 5: close to. And so you're looking at all this, you know,
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  Speaker 5: as R.
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  Speaker 4: FK.
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  Speaker 5: Junior said, you know this chronic disease epidemic right with
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  Speaker 5: you know, autism and allergies and and asthma and ADHD
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  Speaker 5: and all kinds of other things. Right, that all carry
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  Speaker 5: a heritable component, right, they all carry a component of
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  Speaker 5: genetic heredity, right, And they're off the charts now over
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  Speaker 5: there after the last two generations, basically since the advent
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  Speaker 5: of the pill.
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  Speaker 4: Right, so the pill is making turned women into lanisters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to prefer men who are more genetically similar.
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  Speaker 5: And they don't know, no, no, no, it's not that they
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  Speaker 5: prefer them. It's just that they don't prefer the ones
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  Speaker 5: that are genetically dissim aler. All men smell the same,
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  Speaker 5: okay to them, And so it's the it's the alarm
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  Speaker 5: system turns off.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So the alarm system turns off. So but the
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  Speaker 1: overall point of talking about this is it's more complex
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  Speaker 1: than the Minnesota. The Adam Schwartze is saying, it's also
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  Speaker 1: more complex than the straw like the the statist the
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  Speaker 1: left's response to what he's saying, because let's let's uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's start up the the article and we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to mention another thing, birth control in
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  Speaker 1: the water or estrogens in the water are also affecting
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  Speaker 1: young men. So the discussion is bigger than women.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just the birth control pill affecting men and
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  Speaker 5: feminizing men. It's it's like we inject cattle and other
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  Speaker 5: livestock with hormones and then they pee and their pe
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  Speaker 5: just runs down into the groundwater and into our drinking
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  Speaker 5: water sources, and it can't be filtered out. It's not
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  Speaker 5: neutralized by water treatment plants and and so. And we also,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like there is a lot of soy being
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  Speaker 5: consumed in various forms. There's also you know, and they
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  Speaker 5: contain so many phytoestrogens that menopausal women are recommended by
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  Speaker 5: their doctors to eat soy or take soy supplements in
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  Speaker 5: order to control their symptoms because they're you know, it's
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  Speaker 5: loaded with estrogens. So it's you know, like we we
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  Speaker 5: have all of these, and then on top of that,
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  Speaker 5: you have endocrine disruptors like this phenol a and thalates right.
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  Speaker 5: This phenol a makes plastics hard, palates make plastics soft
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  Speaker 5: and pliable. Right, And so you know, this phenal a
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  Speaker 5: has now been banned in food packaging for foods targeted
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  Speaker 5: for children five and under. Right, So the lining of
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  Speaker 5: juice boxes and the lining of baby formula containers and
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  Speaker 5: the lining of baby food containers and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: But if you're like I was as mother, I never
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  Speaker 5: bought baby food. I never bought formula. I breastfed my
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  Speaker 5: kids exclusively, and then I bought them they I fed
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  Speaker 5: them what the family ate, right, And none of these
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  Speaker 5: packaging components, these plastics, the pastino a, none of them
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  Speaker 5: are banned in cans of tomatoes or cans of corn
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  Speaker 5: or you know, cans of soup for adults. Right, None
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  Speaker 5: of them are are banned in any of the product packaging,
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  Speaker 5: the food product package. And they leach right, or in
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  Speaker 5: drinking containers or whatever that are marketed to everybody, like
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  Speaker 5: water bottles and things like that. So you're looking at
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  Speaker 5: you're looking at these these things leach into the foods
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  Speaker 5: and into the water that they contain. And then you
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  Speaker 5: have the thalate issue, which is the cornerstone of the
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  Speaker 5: soft baby toy industry, which is rubber duckies. You know
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  Speaker 5: the reason why the rubber ducky squeaks, why you can
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  Speaker 5: squeeze it, is because it's full of thalatees and they
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  Speaker 5: and what do babies do with everything they pick up?
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  Speaker 5: They put it in their mouths and it leaches in
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  Speaker 5: and it crosses the placental barrier. It interferes with male
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  Speaker 5: uh sexual development in the womb and.
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  Speaker 4: Also after birth.
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  Speaker 5: And so we're looking at a situation where we have
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  Speaker 5: a crisis on our hands, and there are various ways
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  Speaker 5: that we could prove this right in terms of homosexuality
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  Speaker 5: and transgenderism.
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  Speaker 1: That we're going to be moving to the article, so
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  Speaker 1: if you could queue it up, that would be really appreciated.
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  Speaker 7: Which article that GOP says number of women on birth
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  Speaker 7: control concerning the New.
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  Speaker 8: York Posts one yes, Newsweek.
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  Speaker 7: I'm in okay, I just wanted to know which way
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  Speaker 7: it was you just said article that's not enough for me.
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  Speaker 5: So, but we we literally have we literally have a
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  Speaker 5: situation where homosexuality and bisexuality and transgenderism and non binarism
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  Speaker 5: and all of these things are on the rise.
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  Speaker 1: Like just before I want to continue, I want to
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  Speaker 1: just point something out. There's two people in the chat
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  Speaker 1: who are saying, this is tinfoil hat time.
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  Speaker 4: Why don't you.
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  Speaker 1: Bestos and guzzle pholidamide?
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  Speaker 4: Like, what's what's the conspiracy theory here? What's the conspiracy?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody? Like, there are now warnings on b.
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  Speaker 4: H A like the black A.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are no warnings on this. This is not conspiracy.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you sucking up to corporations? What do you
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  Speaker 1: believe they should be able to do anything? Put any
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  Speaker 1: kind of chemicals in our food and water?
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  Speaker 3: Just have that?
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  Speaker 1: Are you the kind of people who would burn Eric
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  Speaker 1: Brockovich at this Aaron Brockovich at the stake for questioning
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  Speaker 1: the corporation.
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  Speaker 5: The hexavalent chromium issue, right, oh yeah no, but chromium
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  Speaker 5: is good for you, not when it's hexavalent.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't believe it. Like I used to be,
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  Speaker 1: Like I used to be. I used to Green Party,
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  Speaker 1: for God's sake, and then all of you started sucking
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  Speaker 1: up to corporations and I'm like, what the hell are
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Goodbye? Yeah, No, it's it's insane.
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  Speaker 5: It's insane, and it's you know, like when when you
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  Speaker 5: look at it week.
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  Speaker 1: All of you on the left is what I meant.
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  Speaker 1: All of you on the presumptive left, whoever you are
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  Speaker 1: that assumed the label, I don't recognize you anymore.
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  Speaker 5: The idea is and and well, but but this, the
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  Speaker 5: accusation of conspiracy theory, actually is part of the problem because.
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  Speaker 1: It is said in the special chat the numbers aren't increasing.
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  Speaker 1: People were closeted before.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, no no, no, no no, And there's numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Of gay men aren't increasing. It's the numbers of trans individuals.
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  Speaker 5: That, okay, you could you could easily track this, okay,
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  Speaker 5: medically track this, okay, Not not in the closet, not
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  Speaker 5: Oh it's a social contagion.
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  Speaker 4: You could find out easy peasy, who is JA genuinely transgender, okay?
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  Speaker 4: And who is just going along with a fad right.
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  Speaker 5: Through a an fMRI scan of their brain right, of
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  Speaker 5: a certain certain structure in their brain called the interstitial
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  Speaker 5: nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus third interstitial nucleus iron a
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  Speaker 5: H three right, which in males is more female typical
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  Speaker 5: and in females is more male typical. And that brain
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  Speaker 5: structure sets sexual orientation and gender identity.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And this is long established science in transsexuality and exploration
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  Speaker 5: of homosexuality and transsexuality.
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  Speaker 4: Right long established, right that.
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  Speaker 5: That this organ in the brain, this this particular structure
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  Speaker 5: in the brain, if you are gay, it's gonna look
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  Speaker 5: a little more girly, if you're a gay man, if
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  Speaker 5: you are a transgender male woman, but a man who's
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  Speaker 5: a transgender woman, it's gonna look really girly.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 5: And somehow, somehow we've gotten away from the science so much,
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  Speaker 5: right that when some thirteen year old boy or girl
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  Speaker 5: suddenly decides to self identify as trans and demand medical treatment,
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  Speaker 5: we don't scan their brains to see whether maybe it's
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  Speaker 5: some other kind of problem. Right, Maybe it's it's an
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  Speaker 5: anxiety problem, social anxiety problem, depression. You know, maybe they're
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  Speaker 5: just a typical fucking teenager. Because show me a teenager
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  Speaker 5: who isn't come, who isn't uncomfortable with their changing body, or.
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  Speaker 1: Even understanding their social relationships. That's it seems like identifying
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  Speaker 1: as one of these categories immediately gets you a set
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  Speaker 1: of friends, the sen of supporters, people who are going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you what you're where your problems.
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  Speaker 5: Alliance is on your side now, And you know, at
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  Speaker 5: school and and there's a zero tolerance policy on bullying
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  Speaker 5: over being gay or trans.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like, you look at these situations, right, there
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  Speaker 5: is science behind it, and nobody's using it. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: saying transgender people don't exist. I'm not saying that being
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  Speaker 5: gay is not a biological condition or a physiological condition
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  Speaker 5: that has biological reasons. That's been known for the longest time.
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  Speaker 5: Twin studies, even identical twins, if one twin is gay gay,
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  Speaker 5: the other twin is seventy percent more likely than even
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  Speaker 5: the other siblings who were not twins to also be gay.
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  Speaker 6: So you're looking at a situation where there's.
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  Speaker 5: Tons of biology backing up trans people's right to exist,
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  Speaker 5: gay people's right to exist, right, that they were essentially
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  Speaker 5: or effectively for the most part, born that way, right,
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  Speaker 5: and that you know, maybe we should be tolerant, and
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  Speaker 5: maybe we should, but maybe we shouldn't jump the gun
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  Speaker 5: and give them all kinds of treatment that affirms their condition. Right,
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  Speaker 5: Like when you have a thirteen year old because eighty
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  Speaker 5: five percent, Okay, this is.
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  Speaker 4: No, but just listen. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: As of twenty fourteen, eighty five percent of kids youth
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  Speaker 5: who identified as transgender. If you didn't do anything if
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  Speaker 5: you didn't medicalize them. They grew out of it after puberty, right,
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  Speaker 5: because they get another surge of hormones that changes their
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  Speaker 5: brain structures and they become well adjusted adults who identified
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  Speaker 5: with the gender that they were assigned at birth.
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  Speaker 6: And usually they're gay, but.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes they're not even gay.
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  Speaker 5: Right, And instead of doing just letting them go through puberty,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: or maybe even just giving them a little bit of
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: sex affirming hormone, give them the boys a little testosterone,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: giving the girls a little estrogen, right, instead of doing
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: that right to help them resolve of their confusion that
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: they're having during adolescents during puberty, settle it, settle their
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: symptoms down right, we just go straight to the puberty blockers,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: blocking nature's cure, right and fast track them into sex
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: affirming care, which is our gender affirming care, which is
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: cross tex hormone therapy.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get started on that article now, because this
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is a much more complicated issue. And somebody is talking
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: about alpha and beta, but you know what, let's set
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that aside. Let's get into the article. Brian, go ahead and.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: Say, all right, I'm going to read from the article now.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So let's try to get large sections done before we comment.
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: All right, here we go, all right, GOP candidate says
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: number of women in birth control concerning, So let me
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: just switch scenes here. A GOP senate candidate from Minnesota
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: has said that he finds a number of women on
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: birth control concerning because the pills not only change female hormones,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: but also change the kind of men women are attracted to,
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: a statement a gender and public policy professor told news
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Week is absurd.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Schwartz, Well, he's a gender and public policy professor. He's
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: not a biologist, he's not aist, he's not even obgyn.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, let's keep going though.
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: All right, yeah, yeah, no, totally totally not qualified to
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: speak on this.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: But it doesn't matter.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: That is the ideological position on this matter. Now, yes,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: move on to something.
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: Else, Adam Schwartz.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Schwarz said on The Meg f Ellefson Show, a podcast
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: and conservative talk radio program hosted by Ellefson, that birth
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: control was making women more attracted to beta men as
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: opposed to alpha caveman. Newsweek has contacted Schwartzy via social
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: media for comment. Why it matters access to birth control
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: and reproductive rights has come into the spotlight since President
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: Donald Trump started his second term in the White House,
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: and requests for contraceptives, including long term birth control and
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: morning after pills and abortion pills, soared after his election victory.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: After Roe v.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Wad was overturned by Republican appointed Supreme Court justices, taking
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: the constitutional right to abortion away from American women, Concerns
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: about what the Trump administration's plans are for reproductive rights
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: have been escalating.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: While the Republican.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: Base in America is comprised of a large portion of
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: religious groups, particularly evangelical Christians and Catholics, who oppose birth control.
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: A twenty twenty four Navigator research survey found that seventy
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: four percent of Americans believe birth control should be easier
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: to access. Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Well, and seventy four percent of Americans don't know what
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: birth control actually does to a woman's body.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're ignorant. Who cares what they think? Okay,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: let's keep going, Brian.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: All right, what to know?
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Schwartz said in the interview that because of the influenced
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: birth control pills are having on women and their attractions,
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: US society as a whole is becoming more pacified. It's
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: actually kind of concerning because it's changing our culture and
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: values because of birth control, he said, adding it was
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: fascinating but also scary, saying that a lot of women
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: are now us using birth control, he added, we are
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: changing our society away from men who you who are alphas, providers, protectors, doers,
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: builders for those effeminate girly boys. According to research by
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: KFF last year, eighty two percent of American women of
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: reproductive age reported having used some form of contraception in
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: the previous twelve months. There are some studies that have
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: indicated the birth control pill I e. And oral contraceptive
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: could influence what features women are attracted to in men,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: with one twenty thirteen study finding that in initiation of
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: pill use significantly decreased women's preferences for male facial masculinity.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: Twenty eleven study also investigated the relationship outcomes of women
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: using the pill, but stated that quote we know neither
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: whether these laboratory measured effects are sufficient to exert real
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: world consequences, nor what these consequences would be end quote.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: We just want to get into your moment.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Just like there is new research that has been published
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: before this article went out, so there is no reason
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: why the writers of this article could not have availed
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: themselves of new research. This is shoddy research right here, guys,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to prove it to you when we
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: go over that research. But continue this, finish this section,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and then Haroen, you can go.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: The reasons behind possible changes to attraction have been attributed
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: to female hormone levels. However, there is still limited research
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: on the subject, and more rigorous studies are needed in
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: order to determine whether birth control changes what kind of
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: men women find attractive. By the way, just as a
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: side is, this looks like it's literally written by AI.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: Like just the way that it's organized and everything. This
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: is like chat gpeces.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But go ahead, yeah, chat GPT crap. But this this
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: is shoddy Okay, and I just want to point that out.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Let's just let's keep going because there there is more
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: research that's come out recently. Continue, Okay, should I keep
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: going or let Heroen go?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: One second here, Okay, when you're talking about a safety
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: signal or some kind of signal of some kind of
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: unintended effect, right of any medication, right, the idea is right? Okay,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: So if if say I'm taking a medication and I
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: get a side effect that isn't listed on the warning
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: label of this medication, but I suddenly get a side
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: effect that I notice it's noticeable.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Right, What does my doctor tell me to do.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Discontinue that medication, right, discontinue it, right if it's something
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: that you know is interfering with my life, right, Like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: When I was on the low.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Androgen pill, right, just all estrogen, I had zero sex drives,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: zero libido. It worked, I mean like it kept me
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: from getting pregnant because the idea of even kissing someone
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: was disgusting.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, it was gross. And then when I.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Went on the higher end and pill, I got a blistering,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: fucking yeast infection that would not go away, right, And
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: it was just absolutely made it impossible to have sex.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: So I guess that one worked too, prevented pregnancy, like
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: it's turn right, because I wasn't having sex at.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: All on either pill. Okay. The doctor didn't say, well.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: That's not really associated with you know, there's no studies
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: necessarily that you know, I mean, there are a few
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: studies that suggested, but none that really confirm the causality.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: He didn't say that he said stop taking it and
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: switched to a different method.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. And the thing is that we're not
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: going to see these studies to any degree because this
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: is against corporate profits. Nobody wants to.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: It's against it's against the ideological leanings of the left,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: which is which is any type.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Of aligned with profits.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Any type of.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Birth control for all women and girls, okay, because you
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: could be like four, ten years old and go to
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: the doctor and ask for birth control and they aren't
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: even allowed to tell your parents, right, they just give
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: it to you. So for any type of birth control
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: for all women and girls without even a doctor's exam, right,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: they want this, They want more accessibility. They don't even
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: want to have to get a prescription from a doctor.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: They just want to be able to buy it over
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: the counter.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So okay, the first two paragraphs after what people are saying,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: just reiterate GOP senatorial candidate Adam Schwartzey' So we don't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: need let's just go to carry Baker there, all right,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: because he's the She's.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: The expert, the expert, the official, the official.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Carrie Baker, Professor and Chair of the Program for the
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Study of Women Gender and Sexuality at Smith College, Massachusetts
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: told Newsweek shocker quote. The Schwartze statement is absurd at
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: multiple levels. First, the sciences wrong. The original studies from
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: the early twenty tens were very small and only claimed
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: to show a correlation between women's use of hormonal birth
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: control and preference for men with facial features associated with
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: lower testosterone levels. Later, larger longitudinal studies have disproven these associations.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Regardless of the science, Schwartze incorrectly assumes being an alpha
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: caveman is the ideal form of masculinity that society should encourage.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I disagree. American society has astoundingly high rates of male
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: violence towards women, other men, and themselves. We should be
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: encouraging nonviolent forms of masculinity. Finally, Schwartz insults women by
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: saying those who use birth control are not natural.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Let me get in. I'm just going to talk about
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the errors in what she's saying. Well, first of all,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to point out that we now have
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: women's studies professions opining on things that are better in
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: physiology chemistry, like she has no actual expertise on any
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of this. I tempted to find the later larger longitudinal
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: studies could only find one recently which actually affirmed these findings.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So we have to just take her word that she's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: actually looked into this and she isn't just bloviating or
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: blowing it out her asshole that there are these studies
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: she want to point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Out she says, she says, well, there's correlation, but they
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: had they those studies were small, and yes, they showed correlation,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: but not causation. Okay, well there was only correlation with
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the limited the linamite and freaking flipper babies.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: But you know what they did, they pulled it off
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the fucking shelves. Yep.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And also correlation with Uh that's the trick that the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: tobacco companies kept using. It's just correlation, just correlation, like
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: this is this is the eternal relation. This is the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: eternal thing that I'm seeing now with with the left and.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: When you're taught to status, when you're taught oh yeah no,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and and the uh you know, they they they literally
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: they use it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: They use it at their convenience. Right.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: So when it comes to hydroxychloroquin or ivermectin in the
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: treatment of or prevention of COVID nineteen right. Oh, there's
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: no double blinded, randomized controlled trials showing a definite causation,
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: a definitely causal anything.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, you know, you just have doctors in the field
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: saying there's a correlation anecdotally, right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Okay. So okay, fine, fine, Okay.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: So I'm not saying I'm not saying we should have
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: thought that those were the holy grails of fighting COVID, right,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: But they wanted double blinded, randomized controlled clinical trials.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for one type of treatment.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Further for yeah, for two drugs that have extremely long
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: safety records in terms of human use, right, Like both
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: of them are sold over the counter to humans in
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: countries where parasitic and malarial infection are calm.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, So you're looking at you're looking at a situation
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: where you have them poo pooing. But then then at
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the same time, right, when you have these massive two
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: hundred times larger freaking number of reports to the Vaccine
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Adverse Events Reporting System of severe adverse events associated with
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the COVID nineteen vaccines, you know, something like two hundred
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: times as many right per patient, per dose, right, compared
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: to other vaccines. They're like, oh, that's just correlation. Yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: but and and those reports they're just anecdotal.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what what is the red flag? What
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: is the what is the red flag for these kinds
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of interventions? Then, so basically there's no way to stop it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So if the big big Pharma gets behind an intervention,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: there's no way for us lab rats to say, hey,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I think that the things that it's causing iness are
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: are not good. There's no way we just we just
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: go full steam ahead, no breaks.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I actually to somebody, I.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Get what you say, if you actually want to prevent harm, right,
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but being gay or being
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: trans complicates your life massively, massively complicates your life compared
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: to being heterosexual and cisgender. Right, maybe it's the case
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: that some people, no matter what you do, will remain
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: gay or will remain trans throughout their entire lives and
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do about it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Right because, but just.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: Because not all cancer patients respond to the treatment and
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: survive does not mean that we just say, well, chemotherapy
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: and radiation, we should just like just no. And you're
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: acting like it's some kind of crime to have cancer.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Now, But the overall point is that it's causation for
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: me and correlation for the when it comes to this
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: ideologically motivated science. But the other thing I wanted to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: point I can't find the later largitudinolagenal studies that have
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: disproven those associations. Like I said, the latest one that
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I found from twenty twenty four, which this article should
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: have availed itself of, did show an association.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Please don't do that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Don't go there, don't go there, voidcat. This is why
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I have that there so that you don't be aren't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: able to access my cord that leads to my OSMO.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so anyway, there's but the we only no
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: correlation between voidcat and the complete destruction the technical difficulties
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that take down the streen. We don't have causation yet.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: We need to do a longitudinal study on voidcats and
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: technical difficulties.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Randomized Yeah trial, Alison, Yeah yeah, all right, what happens
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: when voidcat is in the room versus what happens when
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: voidcat is not in the room.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: That may establish correlation.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get to the next paragraph. Oh and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I also want to point out that American society does
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: not have astoundingly high rates of male violence towards women,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: other men.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: In them, to anyone.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually quite long.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: And if we're actually going to talk about violence, how
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: much soy do you think the Antifa boys, you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: take before they set a test law on a fire?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, going paragraph.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Kiara Bridges, the professor of law at u C. Berkeley
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: School of Law in California, told Newsweek, quote.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: An expert on biology.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, totally told Newsweek.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: Comments like that, wait, well, hold on a second, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: gotta moose some things around.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Can you guys keep talking?
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Comments?
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: I got it. Comments like that no longer hide the ball.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: They make explicit the commitment to traditional gender norms that
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: informs both the conservative attacks on reproductive rights and conservative
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: policies towards reproductive health. Schwartz aims to pathologize women who
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: use hormonal contraception. Essentially, he thinks that women should not
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: use them. This is consistent with a view that holds
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: that women should either be elevate or constantly pregnant, giving
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: birth to children throughout the entirety of their reproductive years.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Of course, these wow, that's a lot of mind reading.
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: That's a lot of mind reading from like a really
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: short statement.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: But okay, okay, I don't think any I don't think
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: any Republicans are against condoms or rhythm methods.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Yep, all right.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: Of course, these constantly pregnant women would find it difficult,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: if not impossible, to work outside the home during their
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: reproductive years. So I imagine that Schwartz believes that they
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: would just turn to alpha cave men to provide for them.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: This view of women and women's roles is precisely what
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: feminists reacted against in the mid nineteenth century and then
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: again in the nineteen sixties and seventies. Well, that's true,
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: she added, I don't believe that there exists enough evidence
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: to support the claim the hormonal contraceptive causes women to
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: prefer different types of men. If more research is conducted
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: in the future, and that research supports the claim, then
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: women considering taking the contraceptives should be informed about it,
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: just as they are informed about all the other risks
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: impossible consequences that accompany contraceptive use.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they're not. They're not. There aren't They aren't.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: They aren't.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Like when I went on the pill, my doctor didn't
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: say okay, he just he just like he just wrote
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: the script.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: He didn't.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: He didn't say, Okay, do you have a family history
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: of stroke? Do you have a family history of vascular disease,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: do you have a family history of high blood pressure?
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Do you have a family history of embolism? You know, like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: he didn't, he didn't say any of that. He did
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: not he didn't ask.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Me any of that. He was just like, Oh, you're
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: young and healthy. Woop boop boop, here you go.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, so and we need and also the studies are
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: showing this. So at this point in time, doctors should
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: inform women that the pill may be changing their selection
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of reproductive partners, and that when they come off the pill,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: they may find that there's a lot of stress on
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: their relationship because they don't find their their partner's attractive anymore.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Or they find that they stink really bad.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, let's do what happens because forty.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Year old, like the marriage counselors have found for the
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: last twenty twenty five thirty years, and this is how
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: the Lanister thing became like an actual hypothesis. They were like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: you have no idea how many middle aged couples I
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: see who are on the verge of breaking up splitting
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: up right where the woman says, I just can't stand
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: the way he smells.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Right, And this wasn't the case when they met. It
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: wasn't the.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Case through their whole marriage. It's only the case now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: And what's the difference they've had their kids? He got snipped,
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: she went off the pill.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, So let's finish the last couple of
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: paragraphs and.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Then we'll do there's only one left.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: What happens next? The Trump administration has passed an executive
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: order to prevent federal funding of elective abortion, alongside ending
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: the forced use of federal taxpayer dollars to fund or
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: promote elective abortion, taxpayer dollars by definition force backed. However,
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: it is not yet clear if the administration plans to
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: alter women's access to birth control.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Be afraid, be very.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Afraid, okay, okay, like access to birth control, really access
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: to birth control, like okay, don't walk round. Productions had
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: a video that I was I watched the first little
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: bit of it, like showing some of these scare ads
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: from Democrat packs, right, and one of them was of
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: you know this couple. Oh if it wasn't they're looking
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: at their little baby, and you know, if it wasn't.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: For IVF, you wouldn't our little miracle wouldn't exist.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: And then this guy comes into the bedroom and scoops
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: the baby out of the crib and.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: It starts crying and who are you? What are you
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: doing here?
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: And and he's like, I'm your Republican congressman, right, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: this baby doesn't belong to you, right.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: It was conceived through artificial.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Means, right, and and we won't through criminal means, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: we won't allow a baby to be raised by criminals.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Right, So this baby is mine now, right, And I'm like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: what the fuck are you?
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: And then and then the same congressman, who incidentally looks
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: exactly like Joe Biden.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: By the way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a couple having sex and she grabs the
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: condoms out of the nights den and and he's sitting
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: in the bedroom and he takes them out of her hand.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: He's like, you can't. I'm sorry, you can't have those.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Who are you? What are you doing here?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I'm your Republican congressman, and we're banning birth control.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Now that I've been elected. There's nothing you can do
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: Right, And I'm just like, are you are you fucking
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: kidding me?
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Like, you can't have Republicans. You can't frame Republicans as
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: being like they don't want single motherhood to exist, right,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: They don't want women to They don't want welfare queens
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: who have like five freaking welfare babies. Right, they don't
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: want this, they don't want that, right, Okay, But they
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: also don't want people to use and they don't want
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: like HIV being spread and sexually other sexually transmitted infections
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: being spread spread through.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: But they totally won't let you use.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Condoms in the privacy of your own home, right, And
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, what what they're gonna ban IVF? Trump
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: made Trump actually basically said he wants IVY. I don't
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: know if he's managed to do it yet, but he
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: wants IVF to be covered by health insurance.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: So I read the next thing, Alise, So what are
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: we doing now?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Okay? So put up the put up the the Science
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Direct article or the Science Direct yeah article. Take a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: look at that longitudinal changes in sexual desire and attraction
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: among women who started who started using the natural cycles
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: app So essentially they went off birth control and started
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to use natural cycles to the yeah, the rhythm method.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Except you know, I'm guessing that the app and all
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: of the ways of testing probably increase the reliability of it,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: or or alternatively, they're okay if they do have a child,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: they just want to space them more. Well, what happened
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: if you go down to the conclusions when women went
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: off the pill, they gained greater sexual desire, Yes, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: if they had chosen their partner.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: Prior to going off the pill, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: they were on the pill when they chose their sexual partner,
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: they did not actually report, at least not as much
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: increase in sexual desire for their partner.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: So this actually confirms what the GOP senator senatorial candidate said. Now, honestly,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I think that the issue is not that. I mean,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I think you know, the alpha and beta. You know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: there was a commentator that made a point alphaon beta
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: was based on wolves. It doesn't really apply. It's just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a pop cultural shorthand. And I also think that the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: real problem is not that the pill makes women attracted
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: to girly men. It's that when they come off, they
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: stop being attracted to their partners. Yeah yeah, So I
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: mean either they're gonna have to stay on the pill
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives, or they're going to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: have to go through a period of time where they
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: realize that on a fundamental level, muniological level, not just
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: facial symit, not just masculinization of faces, but on an
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: immunological level, they are not attracted to their partners.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Well, it's okay, you're you're conflating the two phenomenon. The
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: one is simply being attracted to a certain type of men, right, Yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: how he looks a certain type of body and a
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: certain type of body, certain types of facial features, right,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: the masculinized body.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: The mass I'm not complaining them. I'm saying that that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: isn't the important That isn't isn't necessarily the problem.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Isn't that? Okay?
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: That is completely unconnected to the immunological mechanism, right, which
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: has nothing to do with with how masculinized or feminized
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: your male partner is.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: It has to do with the way he stinks, the
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: way he stinks.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Ok yes, but that's my point. It's is that it's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: not necessarily that women are attracted to femboys or less
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: masculine men, right, because you could argue that a man
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: who lives the Christian virtues is considered less masculine than Andrew.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Tait or whatever.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: But the point is that when she comes off the pill,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: she no longer finds him attractive. And it's not just
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: she doesn't find him attractive because he's girly. It's also
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't find him attractive on like a cellular level.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: That she may not find him attracted, may not find.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Him attracted on his Yeah, the correlation versus causation. So, Brian,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we're hearing your your additionally maybe, yeah, thank you. So
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: this is this is an important thing. It's something that
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: women should know before they go on the pill. If
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: they go on the pill not in a committed relationship,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: If they meet their partner while on the pill, they
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: may find if they go off the pill, that the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: relationship breaks up because they can't maintain their sense of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: attraction to this man. And it doesn't matter or Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe actively repulsed by you know, it's okay, Brian,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: what are you doing?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's look at the second one. The Psychology
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Today article do contraceptive pills? And these two articles are
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: recent they were published in like late twenty twenty four.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: This honestly, the women's studies professor and the law professor
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: obviously hadn't looked at the latest science when they find
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: on it. And I also want to say, there's this
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: really hilarious thing at the bottom of that article that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: we just the USA today where they say rate the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: fairness of this article, and it uncritically advances the left's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: ideological position of defending corporate profits with the birth control
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: pills and also the destruction of family, which has deeper
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: implications for society. The GOP senatorial candidate is absolutely right
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: about that. I've been reading J. D Ewen, who wrote
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Sex and Culture and a culture that is chased before
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: marriage and has lifetime monogamy, the much more it has
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: much more energy, it's much more, it has more progression
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in its technology and its art and literature. And societies
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that that sort of deteriorate into sexual license have three
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: generations before they implode, and we are on generation three
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: with the.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: With the zoomers.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: So this really does have implications for the continuity of
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: our society. And look at what's this freaking thing, this meter?
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: When you click on it, it says it's centrist fair,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and the only people that they talk to were not
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: We're not endocrinologists, they weren't chemists, they weren't even anybody
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: in the pharmacy industry. There were just two ideologically possessed
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: individuals in law and women's studies. All right, let's go
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: do contraceptive pills affect attraction?
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: Do you want me to read that?
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Let me just read the subtitle Stopping oral contraceptives may
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: enhance the appeal of alternative partners. It's a long article,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if we can get through. Let's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I apologize for my air conditioner if there's
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: nothing I can do about it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: It's hot as fuck over here.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: So a high quality romantic relationship offers many benefits, including
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: better health and higher reproductive fitness. In their attempt to
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: form such a beneficial relationship, people are guided by mechanisms
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: that evolved to help them identify the most suitable person
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: in their social MELIU. For example, they show a preference
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: for body odor that signals compatibility with potential mate's immune system.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: When they find.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: Such a desirable partner, people typically strive to maintain the
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: relationship by employing strategies that protect it against the allure
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: of alternate mates. Commonly, use contraceptive pills may change natural
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: mate preferences. However, these pills introduce hormones that suppress ovulation
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: and lead to temporary fertility loss, similarly to what happens
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: during pregnancy. Consequently, heterosexual women's perception of men may serve
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: a different function than that than that occurring around ovulation.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: They may pursue a cooperative partner who assists with childcare
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: rather than the genetically compatible partner women. They may therefore
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: revert to having opposite mate preferences, becoming fixed on seeking
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: less genetically compatible men whose body odor resembles that of
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: their apparently supportive genetic relatives. To the extent that contraceptive
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: pill use alter's mate preferences. Women who had taken hormonal
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: contraceptives while meeting their partner and later discontinued their use,
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: as many do when they wish to conceive, may feel
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: disenchanted with their initial partner choice. Indeed, the use of
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: hormonal contraceptives may not only affect initial partner choice, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: also have unintended consequences for women's relationship satisfaction if contraceptive
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: pill use subsequently changes. Prior studies have provided evidence for
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: this hypothesis, indicating that women who had used hormonal contraceptives
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: when they first met their partner and then cease to
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: take them experience lower levels of sexual and relationship satisfaction
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: and are more likely to get divorced. In research published
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: recently in Evolutionary Psychological Science, my colleagues and I sought
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: to examine whether the adverse relationship implications of cessation of
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: contraceptive pill use in women who use pills during relationship
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: on set extend to an increased likelihood of attraction to
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: alternative partners. In two studies, we examine whether women who
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: had used hormonal contraceptives during relationship for meation and later
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: discontinued that usage would be particularly likely to find attractive
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: alternate mates sexually appealing during the fertile phase of their
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: menstrual cycle, as compared to women who either had not
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: used pills at relationship formation or had done so but
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: did not stop using the pills.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: In study number one, we.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: Examined whether heterosexual women who had used pills while meeting
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: their current partner but had discontinued their usage would be
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: particularly likely to experience sexual desire for attractive alternate mates.
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: For this purpose, romantically involved female participants watch videos of
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: two men who introduced themselves as potential partners on dating sites.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: One of these men was conventionally sexually attractive and described
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: himself as a quote bad boy end quote, using traits
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: that are associated with masculinity but low dependability, for example,
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: sensation seeking, easily bored, and adventurous. The other man was
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: average looking and described himself as an ordinary guy. After
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: watching each video, participants described in narrative form and imaginary.
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: Date with the man in the video.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: These descriptions were coded for written expressions of sexual desire
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: for each man. The expressions of desire included express interest
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: in pre sexual or sexual activity such as kissing, making out,
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: and having sexual intercourse, as well as descriptions of actual
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: engagement in pre sexual and sexual interactions. The findings reveal
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: that the women who are currently in high fertility phase
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: and had used pills while meeting their current partner but
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: had discontinued their usage were more likely to experience sexual
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: desire for the attractive bad boy than for the average
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: looking ordinary guy. However, the bad boy and the ordinary
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: guy differed not only in physical attractiveness but also in dependability. Hence,
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: it is unclear whether women preferred the bad boy because
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: of his attractiveness or his undependability.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Can I just get in.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Here for a second, I can just get in here
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: for a second. First of all, this is confirming everything
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: we were saying. It also sort of disconfirms what that
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: GOP senator is saying. We don't necessarily want men to
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: be attracted to the bad boy, or so women to
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: be attracted to bad boys, So this might be an
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: outcome that's not great. However, there's that, like Karen was talking,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: there's other issues around smell and such.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: But and there's also there's also other issues regarding because
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: if you have two profiles and one looks like an
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: ordinary shlub and the other looks like you know, the
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: when I was searching Amazon for polo shirts for my husband,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: right there was this one guy that I wouldn't tick
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: him out of bed free and crackers, and you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: he was just an extremely masculine male model with beautiful
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: venus vasculature right architecture in his arms, you know, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: you know, very fit and all of that and I
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: was just like.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: You know that guy, if I was young and good looking,
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: Like honestly like I, you don't find somebody who's who's
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: not incredibly physically attractive, right, Normally a woman does not
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: find that man attractive until she gets to know him,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: which means she gets to talk with him.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: And the point is that they're trying to determine what
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the attractiveness is based on the relationship to him.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: But they Okay, but here's the thing, right, The entire
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: thing about dependability, right, might be a red herring. It
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: might be just like a confound that's in there right
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: then that has no bearing.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's what they're trying to do with the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: second study. So let's let's reading. I just wanted to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: point that out. Also, you can't smell a man through
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a photo. But let's let's keep going.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: Brian, Okay. To address this limitation in study two, we
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: included no information about the men's characteristics other than their appearance,
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: so that the women were exposed to men who differed
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: from each other mainly in their physical attractiveness. Specifically, romantically
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: involved female participants performed a visual cueuing computerized task that
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: assess how efficient they were at withdrawing their attention from
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: photos of attractive and average looking men in order to
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: categorize an object appearing in a different location on the screen.
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: This task involved less conscious, rationally based preferences than the
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: measures employed.
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: In previous studies.
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: Hence, it was less likely to evoke demand characteristics or
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: other motivational biases when recording participants' reactions to alternative mates.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Alternative Mates study two replicated studies one's findings showing that
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: the women who were currently in high fertility phase and
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: had to use pills while meeting their current partner but
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: discontinued their usage were especially likely to monitor attractive alternative mates. Together,
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: these studies demonstrated that women who had stopped using pills
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: and were currently in high fertility phase were particularly vulnerable
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: to feeling desire for attractive alternatives, suggesting that the disillusionment
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: that follows the cessation of pill use lessens women's motivation
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: to employe strategies that protect their relationship from attractive alternatives.
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: These conclusions, however, should be viewed.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: With caution, so they're you doing the usual like limited
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, And also since these conclusions don't benefit
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry. We're probably not going to see the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: large scale, very expensive logitudinal studies and they.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: And they don't.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: They don't benefit the pharmaceutical industry, and they don't benefit
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: that feminist ideology either.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: No, no, so you don't see the necessary large scale
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: longitudinal studies to start to But of course we don't
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: need those when it does benefit the pharmaceutical industry and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: it does benefit the feminist ideological complex, we don't need that.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, you know, if God, there was a
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: point that I wanted to make as well in terms
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: of you know, God.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, while parent is attempting to get that point, let's
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: go to the final thing, which is my recreation of
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: David Foutrell's article on the subject.
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: Okay, okay, so we're going to play. This is David Futrelle.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: He writes on a blog call we Hunted the Mammoth.
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: Apparently he's still out there doing stuff.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Well, he took a hiatus, but apparently he's back and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: he needs to target us for a lot of shit.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, let's let's let's just listen to it. The
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: comedy part of all of this.
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, let's listen, all right, should I just play
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: We're gonna play this all the way through?
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: Okay, here we got.
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: Or will make swimming horny.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: We might stop it, but go.
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: But the pill makes swimming horny for gurly man is
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: now a GLP talking point by David Fatrail June fourteenth,
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: twenty twenty five, and Chores, the GLP candidate for the
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: US Senate in Minnesota, wants you to know that the
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: birth control pill causes women to be attracted to effeminate
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: gurly boys instead of alpha caveman like they should be.
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: It doesn't, but he wants you to know that anyway.
• 55:44
  Speaker 10: In an appearance on the right wing meg Ellipson radio show,
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: the GLP hope will helpfully explain that women, if they're
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: natural not on birth control, they're actually more attracted to
• 55:55
  Speaker 10: more alpha caveman types. The fact birth control changes that
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: basically brainwashing women into being attracted to beta's soil boys
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: idental thug boy is so twenty seventeen. Why not update
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: the insult call them pill boys now. If you're not
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: intimately familiar with the online discourse about birth control, Chor's
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: claim may seem a bit unhinged, and it is, but
• 56:17
  Speaker 10: for a time, claims like this had a certain almost legitimacy.
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: Some small scale evolutionary psychology studies suggested that there were
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: subtle shifts in women's made preferences across their menstrual cycles.
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: Women that their most fertile moments were said to prefer
• 56:31
  Speaker 10: men with more masculine faces that is somewhat broader with
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: sharper jawl lines and so forth. Women on the pill,
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: or so it was claimed, or missing out on this horny, fertile,
• 56:42
  Speaker 10: alpha hungry phase each month and so tended to prefer
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: boring but stable beta providers to sexy alphas as not
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: kaz That's right. For some reason, the family values crowd
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: thinks it's outrageous that any woman might prefer dudes who
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: make good fathers over those who might make for better
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: one night stands. Legedly, but this research has basically turned
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: out to be bullshit. The twenty nineteen study of over
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: six thousand women found no meaning for link between pill
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: use and preference for masculine faces. In short, no, the
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: pill is not turning women into beta male seeking zombies. Apparently,
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: right wing idealizes and online influencers haven't heard the news
• 57:19
  Speaker 10: because boy dude, they love repeating the birth control makes
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: women horny. For Beata's claim, Ben Shippiro and Mikhayla Peterson.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Have no, it doesn't just make me.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: Wait now you're ruining his straw man. Let him have
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: his straw man. You're ruining the straw man.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: It makes them horny for no one, Okay. And then
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: they're like, Okay.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I want to have babies, I want to have
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: a boyfriend, So why not you?
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, somebody said it sounds like Snoop Dogg. Yes, that's
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: the joke. That's the joke.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Why didn't you do flavor? Flav?
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: How many voices I can chew.
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: The Earn't that many options?
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: I would have done Ryan Reynolds though, if I had
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: that option, or Michael Sarah, that would have been perfect.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, but I didn't. Oh yeah, that would
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: have or Jar j R.
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: Binks.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well again, there are not a lot of options,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: so I just went with the most ridiculous Okay, let's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: let's finish all.
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: Right, and TikTok, respectively. Every Magazine, an online women's magazine
• 58:24
  Speaker 10: infamous for pushing right wing talking points, has declared flat
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: out that the pill essentially picks our partners for us.
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: If you're on the birth control pill and in a relationship,
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: the boyfriend or husband you pick would likely not be
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: the one you choose if you were off the pill. Meanwhile,
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: right wing the influencer Alex Clark is convinced that birth
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: control doesn't just make women attracted to gurly men, it
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: can make them attracted to actual girlies. Clark, who hosts
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: the Turning Points You Would Say YouTube show, has told
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: her unfortunately vast audience of mostly young women that the
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: pill can falsely make women feel bisexual. It can't, insisting
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: that the pill is completely altering your personality, Clark has
• 59:02
  Speaker 10: made it her mission to get young women off this pill. Unfortunately,
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: she's not the only one. By a lone shot.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: Is anybody noticing what they're leaving out from this?
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: It can temporarily change your personality? What else temporarily changes
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: women's personalities?
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: Baby?
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, postpartum depression or postpartum dysphoria or psychosis. But I
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: don't know those three little letters that feminists lose their
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: minds whenever you say them, PMS, PMS, Okay, changes women's psychology?
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, but it's perfectly fine to have a
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: woman who could be suffering PMS or PMDD pre menstrual
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: dysphoric disorder, which is like PMS on steroids, right, okay,
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: which are also hormones, by the way, steroids steroids are hormones.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, no PMS. She can have her finger on
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: the nuclear button, that's no problem. Right.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: But but okay, we need to give women paid period
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: leave for when they're they're pmssing, right, And we need
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: to give women like some leeway when they're pmssing and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: they cry on the job, right, they break down on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: the job, they like have they just lose their shit,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: lock themselves.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: In a fucking bathroom and sob on the job.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, like it affects them in terms of those things. Right,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: you should give them three paid days off a month,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: and you should. You should really be and they shouldn't
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: if they if they drown their five children in.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: A fucking bathtub, Okay, you can't blame them, they had
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: postpartum psychosis.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: Right, if they strangle their freaking newborn with a pair
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: of thong panties and throw it over the neighbor's fence
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: into the neighbor's backyard, right, Okay, you can't. Okay, she
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: was she was influenced by hormones that were surging in
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: the wake of giving birth right, and so you can't
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: blame her. But it's okay for her to have her
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: finger on the nuclear button. And it also has nothing
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: to do with the woman's choice of who to form
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: relationships with.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, let us get a little bit more into this,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: because we are running out of time.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: So let's all right.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: Anti pill propaganda is everywhere on social media, especially on TikTok,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: where a variable army of influencers has been spreading alarmist
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: misinformation about hormonal birth control for years. One twenty twenty
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: four study found that fifty percent of TikTokers who talked
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: about the pill encouraged their followers to get off.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Study found informers. But you did not find the twenty
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: twenty four studies that confirmed that the birth control pill
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: has an effect on people on women's preferences. Okay, I've read,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I've watched this, MOLTI.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: It also has an.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: Effect on your health, and it also has a long
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: term effect on your fertility.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does all of these things. I mean,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: he's not arguing that he's just saying that the birth
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: control pill doesn't make women prefer girly men.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't make them prefer men who don't look
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: like Dave Boutrell.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm actually finding that a little hilarious that in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: both cases we've got guys saying, well, women on the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: birth control they don't prefer men like me, and women
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: on the birth control off the birth control don't prefer.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Men like me.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, they're all there. There's a certain amount
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: of bias, I think, sure, But you know my bias.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: My bias is the science clearly suggests, right, that being
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: on the pill affects women's mate choices, right, and that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: when they go off the pill, they're often not happy
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: with what they chose.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And that you can look at the.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: Pill too, right, And the increasing divorce rates and the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: increasing rates of single mother concern.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Is exactly that when women are on the pill and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: they select a partner and then they go off the pill,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: they go off that partner. That is the problem. Regardless
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: if they're selecting a femboy or Arnold Schwarzenegger like, it
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, the problem is that the relationship discord that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: results the destruction of relationships. Those relationships form the better
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: rock of our society. That's what people are concerned about. Yes,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the GOP senatorial candidate is is approaching this from the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: women should be attracted to men like me, and David
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: for trelle is women should be attracted to men like me. Yes,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: they're both approaching it sort of erroneously. But the real
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: problem is that women are not attracted to the men
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: that they chose to start a life with. That's the problem.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And I just want to let's David Fratrell just goes
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: off into the weeds after this, So just pop up
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that that one study and we'll go through it really quickly,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: because I just I found it. Finally I figured out
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: what he's talking about. I found it, and I have
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: one really big problem with it. Okay, it took a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: population of women on the pill and a population of
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: just women. So women were not on the pill, but
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: they were anywhere anywhere in their cycle. So and by
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: law of averages, there are gonna be some women at
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the beginning of their menstrual cycle, some women in the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: middle of their menstrual cycle, close to ovulation, some women
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: in the you know, the menstrual part of their menstrual cycle,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and they compared a population without controlling where those women
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: were in their menstrual cycle as far as I can know,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: to a population on hormonal birth control. Now, this is
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: just a really quick look at that study, but that's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: not going to find the results. You need to compare
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: women on birth control to women specifically in the ovulatory
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: phase of their cycle as close as you can get to.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: That preobulatory preovulatory, yeah, to pre premenopausal and just immediately
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: following menopausal great menstrual.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Rather, this study sounds like it has a problem along
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: that score that it didn't control for that. Because we're
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: not saying that overall women on the pill have different
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: preferences than women in general. We're saying that they have
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: different preferences for women who are fertile. There you go.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: And also, they just looked at masculinization of faces. That's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: not the big problem. Okay. If if it was just oh,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: he looks a little dowie, but he's my guy, you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: could get over that. But he looks a little dowe
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and he smells like ass.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: No, he smells like fucking amount of goat testicles left
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: out in the sun for too long on castration at
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: the whole farm.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Because every part, like your entire hormonal and reproductive process,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: is telling you to get the fuck away from him
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: and find another man who doesn't smell like goat testicles. Right,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. Now, we can't go much further into
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: this because I know that Brian has to get going.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: So Karen, do you have.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Any brief comment to that, because I think we can
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: end with the goat testicles.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, think I think we can. We can end
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: with the goat testicles.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: It just reminds me to remind my son who now
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: has a girlfriend, my youngest, that he needs to ask
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: her if she's on the pill, and if she is,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: tell her that she needs to go off of it
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: before they really commit.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, and that's the basic that's the line
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of it. Women need to be informed about this, and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: we need to either if we're going to continue to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: do this, which you know, maybe is not a great idea.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: This hormonal shit's having lots of disruptive effects on people's development.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: But if we're going to continue with this, we at
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: least need to give women information about how this can
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: affect their relationships and their attraction to the men in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: their lives, you know, so that they can make informed
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: choices about their appilluse. And we also need to maybe
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: create a way of helping women get off the pill
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and retain interest in their life partners, or we just
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: need to just inform them and they need to make
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: steps not to get into committed relationships with men that
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: they haven't smelled after.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: They Yeah, if you want to know, if you want
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: to know whether you're really attracted to a man, you
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: need to be off the pill for at least three months,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: and just after he works out, before he has a shower,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: just stick your freaking face into his armpit and just
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: huff that shit.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: And if it smells good, he's the guy, all right.
• 1:07:36
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  Speaker 11: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 11: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to deal with,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 11: especially if you have like, especially if you have like
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 11: a couple of dudes who have good memory.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked.