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Close Encounters of the Bob Kind (P1) · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
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to Journey to the Fringe, where, hey, I think
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these are privileges that you guys just feel
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entitled to at this point. And you know what?
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No, I work hard on these. So maybe sometimes
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you don't get these right here. Anyhow. Podcast
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host Taylor Chelsea. Chelsea episode. There,
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go. Oh, okay. I'm starting to think that this
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is like the last episode and it's a one -way
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street. And we're giving so much. We're giving
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them the gifts. Exactly. I'm so excited for this
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episode. Taylor, if I were to ask you, who was
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Skinny Bob? Would you have any idea what I was
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talking about? I would... If it was outside of,
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like, the podcast, I would think of, like, Bob,
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Bob. Who do we know who's Bob, like, in common?
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I don't think we have a Bob in common. Well,
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that's not true. I had a friend growing up whose
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dad's name was Bob, but I don't think I would,
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like, call him Skinny, so. But because it's a
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podcast about fringe topics, I would think you're
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talking about some type of cryptid or an alien,
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potentially. Because that kind of feels like
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one of those alien interviews, Skinny Bob. I
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like how you feel about this out. Okay. I'm going
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to say I don't know. I don't know. But by that,
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I take away that your understanding of who Skinny
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Bob was, was like mine when I was scrolling through
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YouTube one day and there's a video that popped
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up about Skinny Bob and I was intrigued because
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I didn't know who Skinny Bob was. Well, today...
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And I'm just curious, was it the title Skinny
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Bob or the thumbnail? That drew you in. I have
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to know this. I can't remember because by this
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point it was like a month or two ago. But whatever
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it was, it was about Skinny Bob. So I would assume
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it was both that drew me in. Intrigued a little
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bit. And so I clicked on it and I was like, meh.
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But then here we are today. I'm going to skip
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the whole middle part. Here we are. And today
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where we're at now, we're getting a nice little
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essential things you need to know to talk about
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Skinny Bob at a dinner party or follow along
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if someone brings them up like right now. Taylor's
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really unprepared in this situation. So I'm going
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to give him the down low in case it ever comes
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up again. And you guys are just going to be brought
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into it not being caught off guard like Taylor.
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Skinny Bob, he's an entity on linked videotapes
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containing footage of a gray -like alien. It
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continues to divide opinion within the UFO community.
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I know exactly what you're talking about now.
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No definitive proof of its authenticity or fabrication.
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It's the interview with the gray, right? It's
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not the one you're thinking of. Oh, okay. I don't
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think. We're going to take a look into the whole
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thing. The video first appears on the internet
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in early May 2011, which is exactly vague enough
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for this introduction. The uploader claimed that
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they were leaked KGB files of alien encounters
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from the 1940s to 1960s. There and about. To
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talk about Skinny Bob, first we have to talk
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about not Skinny Bob. Let's set the scene. It's
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2011, which has a lot going on for UFOs that
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I didn't actually know about what was going on
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at the time. The UK drops 35 Ministry of Defense
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UFO files. 8 ,500 pages released to the public
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of people who claim to have been abducted, pilots,
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reports, mass sightings, so on, all in regards
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to UFOs. Then the FBI launches the vaults, and
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from there, the 1950 Hottel Memo gets released,
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sparking a crazy amount of UFO researcher interest.
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Guy Hoddle wrote to the director of the FBI saying
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that an investigator for the United States Air
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Force stated that three flying saucers had been
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recovered in New Mexico, described as being circular
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in shape with raised centers about 50 feet in
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diameter, each occupied by three bodies of human
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shape but only three feet tall and dressed in
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metallic cloth of very fine texture. Each was
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bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout
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suits used by speed flyers and test pilots. Now,
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that's 2011 that the Hoddle memo was leaked.
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We've talked about a lot of stuff to do with
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like Roswell and when the bodies were recovered
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and stuff like that. So just something to keep
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in the back of your mind with that 2011 that
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was leaked in FBI files. They also said that
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the saucers that were found in New Mexico were
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dropped due to very high powered radar set up
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in that area. Believed that it was affected by
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the navigation system of the saucers. So lots
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of UFO stuff going down in the world in 2011.
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And this is around the time of alien autopsy
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videos coming out. And other recovered alien
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videos posted out of Russia are floating around.
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Lots of hoaxes. In March, the Pentagon admitted
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to having 2 ,400 high -classified sensitive files
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stolen from them. And directly preceding all
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of this, a new channel emerges on YouTube and
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uploads four strange videos, which is exactly
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the sentence you want to hear on the podcast.
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Video. But we're groundbreaking here at Journey
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to the Fringe and we don't give a... fuck we're
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doing videos april 13 2011 user ivan0135 creates
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a profile that uploads a video the very same
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day according to the channel description the
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creator is from russia and was born in 1969 he
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only ever posts the four videos ever on these
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videos you get a glimpse of what appears to be
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real ufos and real evens Graze, if you prefer.
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I don't know, I prefer even. I know, everyone
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prefers even. It implies they're from Serpo.
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Exactly. We're going to see that the uploaded
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clips are small samples selectively taken from
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a larger collection of video material. The original
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footage is apparently spread across several physical
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tapes. And Ivan provides a detailed list of tape
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numbers and timestamps for all the clips presented.
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You'll see it come together. Even embeds an animated
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timestamp into the first two videos to indicate
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where the original footage, the sequence was
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taken from. Here's what we're going to do, Taylor.
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We're going to pull up a video, watch it, give
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you the gist of the video. I'll read the YouTube
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description, tell you what's going on, get your
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thoughts on it. And we're going to take a little
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bit of a closer look at each video. I want you
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to just take it all in and keep your opinions
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until the very end of the second episode. I just
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want you to observe, take it all in. I'll give
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you all the information you need. So just remain
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silent when we watch them? Like, let me know
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what your general thoughts are, but I want you
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to form an opinion as we go along and give me
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your final opinion at the end, I think is what
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I'm looking for. Okay. Don't form any thoughts
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immediately is what I'm trying to say based on
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what you're watching. I used skinnybob .info
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which does an incredibly detailed analysis of
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this whole thing. It's crazy the amount of work
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that these people have put into these videos.
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I'm going to go through only a couple points
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for each video. I'll do what I think is the most
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relevant. Not everything is going to be included
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because it is so detailed. We're talking a breakdown
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of possible locations, buildings, stabilized
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videos, measurements, background components,
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everything. I don't need to go through it in
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such detail. So if you're compelled by the power
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of Skinny Bob, you can check it out there. So
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without further ado, let me get Taylor this first
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video. You got it? Okay. You can see it? I can
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see it and I can hear it. Here we go. Oh, I have
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seen these videos. What we're starting with is
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a symbol of the KGB. Above and below have black
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bars, which we assume are censoring something.
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Words, probably. Moving on, we're seeing a saucer
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-shaped UFO hovering statically above a building.
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Looks to be shot from the perspective of a moving
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car, maybe a train. After watching this a million
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times, I do feel like it looks like they're filming
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it from a train, because you do see kind of like
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a train kind of thingy go by a window. Then the
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footage transitions to a closer look at the craft
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from the air, looking down on the craft like
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a plane, maybe, before depicting a scene of what
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appears to be a UFO crash, of what we assume
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is the same craft with UFO in the background.
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smoke billowing from the UFO, and then one being
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seen standing in the frame in bad lighting before
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panning to the craft and another being laying
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on the ground, who is moving. You don't really
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see him moving from how briefly we watched the
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clip, but when you slow it down, he is moving.
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Then we see very briefly what appears to be an
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autopsy. The whole thing has a kind of old -timey
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security footage feel to it. And I think it's
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important to say old timey. You mean like pre
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1940s. Like it is super old. Yeah. So I don't
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know. Did you catch the autopsy at the end? I
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kind of did the body laying on the bed. I didn't
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see them performing an autopsy, but I kind of
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assumed it's on a bed for a purpose. I'm going
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to read the description in the YouTube video
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now. It reads, leaked Air Force UFO footage,
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confidential. Classified document 1942 to 1969.
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Relevant information. The video contains a sample
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edited fragments of tapes 01, 03, and 04. Tape
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duration, 180 minutes. Total recorded duration.
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Wait, sorry. Mm -hmm. There's a recorded 180
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minutes, and we got, what, 20 seconds? Yes. Okay.
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That's what the description says. Total recorded
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duration, 1 .260 minutes, which I assume is how
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long that YouTube video is. Yeah. So then it
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goes down to break it down. Tape one, case 07,
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Tin Bird. 0841 to 0847. Tape 3, Case 15, Flying
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Twin, 2711 to 2713. Case 15, Flying Twin, 2734
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to 2739. Tape 4, Blue Boys, 4250 to 4251. Case
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23, Blue Boys, 4809 to 4816. Case 24, Blue Boys
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Meeting, 4330 to 4332. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting,
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5612 to 5614. Case 24, Blue Boys Meeting, 5826
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to 5828. I can hear you watching the video. Yeah,
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sorry. I don't know why it's coming out of a
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different speaker. From this description, we
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can put together that the footage is compiled
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from four videos. The leaked material allegedly
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covers a span of 27 years, starting in 1942.
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Yeah, because for some reason, it has in the
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bottom of the video, almost like a 1980s camcorder,
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it has the date, time, year. And we'll talk about
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that. So, from the title of these videos that
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they're talking about, it's thought that perhaps
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Blue Boys might be referring to Project Blue
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Book. Project Blue Book was created in 1952,
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but the material in Ivan's possession allegedly
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covers a span from 1942 to 1969. So, it is possible.
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And is it Russia? So, they wouldn't really know
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about it. It's up for debate where it's from.
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Who knows if this Ivan person is playing it that
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way. The style of the house that we see in the
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video. You're right. I assume because you keep
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saying Ivan, that it was Russian. And it does
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say. There are a lot of Russian ties to it. Now,
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there are people who have broken down this video
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to think that the house is, in fact, in the United
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States, just based on the style. Yeah, the first
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shot I saw is like, oh yeah, this is American.
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I just kind of thought from what I saw. But I
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was not allowed to give my opinions on this.
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You can give your opinion. Just hold your full
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opinions to form a full one. So it is possible
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that the Blue Boys and Blue Boys meeting scenes
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were recorded after 1952 if these are based on
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Project Blue Book. Let's talk about a few details
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that are found in the video. So first, you'll
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see here in my notes, this image. Okay. This
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image, which is the first image that we see in
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the video. Right, right. And that may be why
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I assumed it was Russian. Because that's clearly
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Russian writing. Yes, but they block it out on
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the video. Oh. So it turns out that this opening
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still image was taken from a documentary, which
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was titled The Secret KGB UFO Files, which was
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released in 1998. That of which has been debunked.
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And here's obviously the original image, which
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translates to top secret KGB archive. We also
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see that Ivan has tampered with the original
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footage by applying various effects, such as
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the damaged film overlay and old projector sounds.
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Those are not on the original film footage. I
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kind of assumed that. Like, that didn't seem
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like it should be there. Yeah, so they are added
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after the fact. Additionally, there is generally
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a consensus that all the effects have been applied
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digitally to presumably clean underlying footage.
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Clean or make it look specific? Yes, both. I
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think by clean it means... As well, that time
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code that you pointed out running at the bottom
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has also been embedded digitally after the fact
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using the Microsoft font. Consoles, which was
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released in 2006. There are a multitude of reasons
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Ivan may have been compelled to use these effects,
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including a cover -up of a hoax. Maybe Ivan thought
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it looked cooler this way. Maybe Ivan was doing
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damage control for stolen top secret videos.
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Blackmail. Ambiguous Provence. Intentional obfuscation
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of a layer of abstraction. And D, watermarking
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attempt in case of multiple distinct copies circulating
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among those in the know. So he added it so he
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knew it was his? Potentially? Is that what they're
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kind of saying? Potentially many reasons he could
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have added it, including basically what they're
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saying is, I mean, there's multiple reasons that
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he's saying it could be covered up. Number one
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is he think it looks cooler. to add those effects.
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It's 2011. Like, you're adding effects. It's
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gotta look flashy. People don't want it to be
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boring alien footage. Another one is damage control,
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which could be multiple reasons. Number one,
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so that you're covering up major identifying
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factors in a video if you have stolen this video
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and are leaking it as a whistleblower. You're
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covering for stolen top secret videos. There
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could be a million things. Blackmail. You stole
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it and are blackmailing someone. So you're putting
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it together without identifying features because
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you're blackmailing somebody. Dewatermarking
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in an attempt of multiple distinct copies circulating
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among those in the know. So trying to cover up
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obvious watermarks in the video that show ownership
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or something like that. Oh, it's almost like
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putting a redacted over like a trademark. Okay.
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Exactly. Because this is a lot of video footage
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that apparently they have. It was what, 180 minutes?
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Yeah. 180 minutes from which they posted a minute.
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Yeah, exactly. Okay, so my next point is the
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name Flying Twin. So Flying Twin is the part
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of the video where we're seen flying from above
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the object. Okay. Which is a bit mysterious.
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It might refer to the situation in the sky where
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the aircraft is being accompanied by a UFO in
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close proximity. When pilots report UFO encounters,
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they often claim the UFO was mirroring their
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movements while maintaining a constant distance.
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Such maneuvering might have led to the title.
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My thought on the whole thing, Flying Twin to
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me says... twin. It's another UFO. Perhaps it's
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being shot from another UFO. That's what I get
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from it anyway. I didn't see that anywhere in
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anything that I read that that's potentially
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what it could be. However, that's what I take
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from Flying Twin. There's literally not enough
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footage to say the UFO is twinning it. Like,
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it is, what, five seconds long, maybe seven seconds
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at most? It's nothing to make any obvious. Of
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watching it? Yeah. And it seems to just be floating.
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Yeah. That's it. Which is a point towards the
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optification that they're referring to in that
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they're such short videos. You can't really grasp
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a whole lot of what's going on in these videos.
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And it doesn't appear to have a reason why it's
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shortened. Like, it seems pretty clear if this
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was natural video, it did go on longer. The only
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real reason they can really say is because they
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need to shorten it so people didn't know they
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were the leakers or something like that. That's
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very true. It is very clearly a leak, I think,
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is what we can say by the shortened videos. It's
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very clearly not a whole video. I think we can
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all agree. Absolutely. I don't know if we can
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say it's very clearly a leak. To me, it's very.
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clear that it's a leak especially when they're
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putting that it's 180 minutes and we're getting
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very very short glimpses without much to go back
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on but chelsea yeah the leaker and i say it with
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like hand quotation marks which are great for
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use during a podcast yeah just like videos they
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could just be like so i Yeah, I mean, I'm just
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saying that because, like, based on what I'm
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seeing, it seems kind of like that. But you're
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probably going to edit this part out just so
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that you can keep that. Yeah. Like, I'll get
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into the further details in the next episode.
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Based on lens flares of the alien and disposed
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portion of the video, you'll remember there's
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a UFO on fire, which you can't really tell from
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the brief glimpse of it, but there is smoke billowing
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from it. It is clearly a crash. Oh, I did not
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notice that one. Yeah. Based on a lens flare
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of the alien and disposed portion of the video,
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they were able to put together that the shakiness
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of the video is artificial as a post -processing
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effect. also confirm that the camera was recording
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these live. Amazing what you can put together
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from a lens flare. And another fun fact about
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the alien and disposed portion of the clip, it's
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the only place where we see the feet of these
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beings. It's to be noted that the upload dates
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of the videos are important events in the history
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of the Soviet Union and speculated that together
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with the name Ivan and the KGB logo, the publishing
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dates could have been chosen intentionally to
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further imply a Russian origin. Maybe that was
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a clear way of saying it in the beginning, that
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it was of a Russian origin. This could also be
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implied on purpose. I also just wonder, and this
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is if it's somebody who's trying to fake something,
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if it's easier to say like, oh, it's Russian,
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so the technology's not as good, so it looks
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crappier. Well, that same year, 2011, when this
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was leaked, there were a couple of Russian videos
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that were leaked. One was a found alien body.
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And it was later confirmed to be a hoax of chicken
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skin and chicken bones stuffed with something.
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I think I know the exact one you're talking about.
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It's the tiny alien, right? Yeah, yeah, in the
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snow. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to share my screen
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again. I have a bunch of clips for you to watch.
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But this skinnybob .info did a great job. Last
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portion of the video, Blue Boy's meeting is actually,
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can you see this? Yes. Yeah. Oh, and they stitched
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it all together. Okay. Yeah, they did a great
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job. So Blue Boy's meeting is actually pretty
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intriguing. Thank you SkinnyBob .info for the
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incredible in -depth research they did into this.
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They put all the clips together of the alien
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autopsy to create like a panoramic photo. So
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here you go. Just to take a look at that. Actually,
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you know what? While I'm sharing my screen, can
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you see what I'm doing right now? See, they recreate.
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Just look at this. They recreate the house. Oh,
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yeah. They're trying to figure out where in America
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it is. Yeah, you could say, like, this seems
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like it's kind of a distinct building. So you
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could say, like, hey, where was this film? I
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actually want to show you while we're on the
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panoramic film. I just realized I didn't put
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it in here. Here is, can you see this? They actually
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put together the panoramic film of the crash.
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Wow. Which I thought was pretty cool. That's
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a great job. You only see a glimpse of it. Good
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for them. But here, you see the whole thing.
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whole thing together so yeah that's video one
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and we're gonna go on to video two i'm just gonna
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give you this to watch in general. And I'm going
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to just read my stuff while you watch this. Ah,
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I now understand the talking out loud before.
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Oh, I have definitely seen this video. Titled
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Alien Gray Extraterrestrial Zeta Reticuli UFO
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Leaked Footage. The 1st of May 2011. No description
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is provided by Ivan0135 for this video. The video
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track starts with several paragraphs of text
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providing background information. about the material
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I'm gonna read it to you while you watch this
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so let you listen to this okay I'm ahead so maybe
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I'll just wait and catch be on the same page.
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Okay, that would bother me as well if I was trying
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to read something and someone was reading it.
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Ten seconds behind, yes. So, yeah, it goes, filtrate
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for disclassification and dissemination through
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the internet and media. Seven videotapes with
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material recorded between 1942 to 1969, material
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containing UFO incidents, recovery, and study
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of extraterrestrial life forms. Due to the importance
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of these documents, maintain the anonymity of
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the sources. The video contains a sample edited
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fragments of videotape 5, tape duration 180 minutes,
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total recorded duration 1 .260 minutes, tape
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5 edited fragments case 25 skinny bob 842 to
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850, case 25 skinny bob 2736 to 2745, case 26
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how to drive 5507 to 5512. So that's the video
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if you want to go through it now. I'm watching
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it now. After the weird text Ivan included in
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the video, we're watching a gray alien presumably
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being interviewed. Maybe he's putting together
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a puzzle. Both equally valid. Maybe. We see him
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from the side sitting, seemingly interacting
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with something, potentially a puzzle, blinking,
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gesturing. We see the same timestamp as with
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the last video, which is artificially inserted.
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I really don't understand what's happening in
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the third video. What one's the third one? Where
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he's being interviewed? Just like a weird, it
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almost looks like a bacteria cell. The next scene
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we see kind of a full body of Skinny Bob, who
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we assume is Skinny Bob. The camera starts at
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about the shins, I guess. It pans up, showing
25:09
long, crepey fingers. He's wearing a dark suit.
25:13
Ginormous, like, cranium, I guess, back of his
25:16
head. Maybe his brain's really big. Big, dark,
25:18
blinking eyes. And then we see that he's being
25:21
measured, maybe, with, you know, when you go
25:23
to the doc, you do that measuring thing. You
25:25
only do it at the doctor's office this way. It
25:28
almost looks like, actually, he's being, like,
25:29
they're doing the photos for a diet. Yeah. No,
25:33
he does, yeah. Yeah. They just don't do a side
25:36
profile. Back when they prescribed you like meth
25:38
to lose weight. Yeah. And man, that worked. It
25:41
looks like they're not doing it. An aside, it
25:43
worked. The side effects were just too bad. Yeah,
25:47
exactly. There's a movie about it. What's it
25:50
called? I can't remember. I won't think of that
25:54
one. Good movie though. And it almost looks like
25:57
they're measuring him wrong because I never got
26:00
measured like that. He's like at the tip of it.
26:03
when you should be with your head against the
26:05
wall, right? And he's just standing there with
26:08
the thingy touching his head. No, like I said,
26:10
and that's why I think it's more of like a diet
26:12
video to show what your body looks like once
26:15
you've lost some weight. Yeah, no, you're complete.
26:18
It's just for show, obviously, because they're
26:20
not doing it right. The last scene, as Taylor
26:23
was just commenting on, shows a mysterious circle.
26:27
To me, when I watched it, I was like, this is
26:29
boring. This means nothing to me. And I moved
26:32
on. SkinnyBob .info whoever ripped it apart.
26:36
Where I lost interest, they found so much more
26:40
than I ever could have imagined. It appears to
26:43
be like a shadow, like a meba thing. Like I was
26:46
the same thing. Like maybe it looks like a petri
26:49
dish or something. I don't know. I didn't know
26:51
what it was. Hold on a second to that thought
26:54
with the petri dish, whatever the hell the end
26:56
of the video is. Ivan declares explicitly what
27:00
we suspected with the wording in the video. The
27:03
material as presented on the channel is intended
27:07
for public distribution. He wants people to watch
27:11
these videos. He also mentions sources. By this,
27:15
he clearly means the original leakers of the
27:19
material. This means Ivan is a middleman. He
27:22
edited and published the videos he received from
27:26
someone else. Both important portions of this.
27:30
In the video, we see Skinny Bob in all his beautiful
27:33
glory. Let's talk about his physical going -ons.
27:37
The alien blinks in a slow, organic way, and
27:41
the eyelids fold naturally over large eyes, and
27:45
he actually blinks like a cat where the lower
27:48
lids close as well as the upper lids. Can I just
27:52
say something, and this is not, like, my overall
27:55
opinion? Yeah. But... The eyes are very heavily
27:59
shadowed in all of the videos. Yeah, so there
28:02
is on skinnybob .info, there was a lot of people
28:06
saying that he's wearing perhaps covers over
28:09
the eyes. However, they debunked very well on
28:13
the website that it is literally just light play
28:16
of shadows. Yes, and I think that's the whole
28:19
point, is the lighting is set up to give shadowing
28:23
over the eyes. Like, it seems pretty intentional.
28:26
It does appear that you can see reflection in
28:29
his eyes, showing that it wouldn't actually be
28:33
a cover over his eyes. Oh, yeah, and you can
28:35
see him blink. Like, that's pretty clear. Yeah,
28:37
it is shadow. So it does make them look a lot
28:40
bigger as well than they actually are. When you
28:43
see Skinny Bob, the only place where there's
28:45
shadow on his entire body is his friggin' eyes.
28:49
Yeah. That's interesting that that appears to
28:52
be, that would be intentional, wouldn't it? Yep,
28:54
because, no, maybe this is better to get into
28:57
in the second episode, but eyes are the hardest
29:00
part of a face to fake or build, so you're going
29:04
to want to draw attention away from them. however
29:06
you can. Interesting. Okay, maybe don't hold
29:08
back, I think. And especially if you're doing
29:11
a medical exam and documenting it, you're going
29:15
to want to see the entire figure. Now, I will
29:18
say in this one, this is not the medical portion
29:20
of it. But we just talked about it being like
29:23
them taking a front view, almost like a medical
29:26
exam. Documenting what they look like, yeah.
29:28
Incredibly easy to just shine a light from the
29:31
other side. That's true. But, you know, government
29:33
budgets of the day, they just couldn't afford
29:35
another light. It's true. Yeah. And their videos
29:38
were so shitty. Yeah. So, you do see subtle micro
29:44
-expressions within the alien. So, tiny mouth.
29:48
You can see his eyebrows moving around, which
29:51
give it a sense of life and is very hard to fake.
29:54
Now, you may see that Skinny Bob seems... maybe
29:58
a little bit jerky in a couple of his motions
30:01
when he's doing his puzzle. I think he's doing
30:03
a puzzle. He's probably just interacting with
30:06
somebody. But... Ivan's videos do have some frame
30:10
rate issues due to his fuckery. And we don't
30:14
know how aliens move. You don't think that this
30:18
was just filmed on a Super Nintendo and they
30:20
got too many enemies coming on screen at the
30:22
time? It could be. It could be. So, yeah, we
30:26
do see frame rate issues and stuff like that.
30:28
So it could be that he's fucking around with
30:31
the timing. His neck and shoulders look bony
30:34
and frail with a strap. strangely realistic proportion.
30:39
And the head moves slowly with slight pauses,
30:42
not jerky like animatronics. We can very briefly
30:46
see his mouth open and close as well. Skinny
30:49
Bob does appear to have black fingernails when
30:52
they're panning up. And if it's CGI, the animation
30:55
is unusually restrained and subtle. Most bakes
30:59
overdo the motion. And it's not puppetry or anything
31:03
like that. It's been debunked. Definitely not
31:07
a puppet. Another thing to point out is that
31:10
the gray aliens depicted in different scenes
31:13
appear to have individually shaped heads, which
31:17
is a strange feature. So does that mean we're
31:19
looking at two different aliens? At least three.
31:21
And I'm going to share my screen again and show
31:26
you this, as Ralph pointed out. Thanks, Ralph.
31:29
With a focus on the bones. Yeah, I was trying
31:32
to focus on it from the first video where he's
31:35
blinking to the second of his Jenny Craig before
31:38
video. I wasn't certain they were the same. Yeah,
31:43
you were right on picking that up, which is a
31:45
strange thing to fake to make so many and make
31:49
them have different characteristics. So yeah,
31:53
just an interesting thing you see here. There's
31:56
at least three different ones. As you pointed
31:59
out when watching the video, one of the more
32:02
obscure scenes named How to Drive. Remember I
32:06
told you to hold that thought while we're back.
32:09
The boring clip that shows something barely recognizable.
32:12
I wouldn't have given it a second thought because
32:14
like I said, I had no idea what the last scene
32:17
is. I don't know what's going on. I don't care.
32:19
But the people at SkinnyBob .info, they care.
32:22
And given the context, the title, and that we've
32:25
seen a UFO in the video before, the thing...
32:28
could be a control device for maneuvering an
32:30
alien spacecraft. A closer look suggests it being
32:34
some kind of glass plate with something casting
32:37
a shadow on it. Skinnybob .info seems to narrow
32:40
this down to having symbols on it. To me, this
32:44
is a seemingly meaningless thing. But how these
32:46
people break it down is actually insane. There
32:49
are apparently embossed symbols on a glass control
32:53
panel, potentially. And they link the writing
32:56
to a hometown connection saying the letters resemble
33:00
the Malmo plate. I have never even heard of this
33:04
before, which blows my mind. It may need... an
33:07
entire episode itself. So I'm going to talk to
33:10
you a little bit about the Momo plate. Sorry,
33:13
it's a first person video then? Like the aliens
33:16
holding it and driving something? I don't know.
33:18
Like we can't know what the hell it is. It could
33:21
be an instructional video. It could be first
33:25
person of the aliens driving. Like we don't exactly
33:28
know what it is, but they break it down from
33:31
the inference of the title of the video, How
33:34
to Drive. You have to assume it has something
33:37
to do with that yeah with driving yes and so
33:40
they break it down to a glass control piece and
33:43
however they've done it on skinnybob .info it
33:47
has symbols on it and they've matched these symbols
33:50
to this thing called the momo plate which I'm
33:54
going to talk to you a little bit about now which
33:56
came up in I don't even know I cannot find much
34:01
about the momo plate which is a little bit of
34:04
a red flag and I'll give you what I did find
34:07
and maybe we do an episode to follow up on it.
34:10
Here's what you need to know. In late 1967 in
34:13
Edmonton, Alberta, a man known only as L .R.
34:17
saw a silvery dish -shaped UFO about 500 meters
34:21
above the ground hovering silently over the frozen
34:24
North Saskatchewan River just 1 ,500 meters from
34:28
Riverside Golf Course. It emitted a soft violet
34:31
glow and buzzing noise like a transformer. That
34:34
is right down There's some red flags in this,
34:48
I'm going to admit it. Okay. And I couldn't find
34:51
much more than a Reddit post on it. But is skinnybob
34:55
.info refers back to this matching what was found
34:59
here. So I don't know what to make of this. Let's
35:02
just file it in. So skinnybob weirdly has a connection
35:05
to Edmonton. Yes. Potentially. Potentially. Now,
35:10
I will say, full disclosure, this one's giving
35:14
me red flags all over the place. I'm giving you
35:16
what I found. One post on Reddit. on this and
35:20
this is all i could find it i will i granted
35:23
i didn't spend long on it so i don't know the
35:27
ufo descended and landed on the riverside golf
35:31
course disappearing its lights The next morning,
35:35
November 5th, LR found a 5 meter circular indentation
35:40
and 10 centimeter holes left in the ground. Near
35:43
the edge of the circular landing site, about
35:46
2 meters from the ring, he spotted something
35:48
glinting in the grass. It was a thin copper plate
35:51
measuring 17 .3 by 2 .5 centimeters etched with
35:56
dozens of unknown symbols and geometric diagram
35:59
and sequences emphasizing 357 as well as cluster
36:04
-like patterns. I'm sorry, emphasizing, I don't
36:07
know what that means. Emphasizing 357. I don't
36:10
know either. I'm just reading it. Like 357, you
36:12
almost might be talking about prime numbers,
36:14
but I don't think so. I just assume he's emphasizing
36:15
those numbers. He takes it home, initially afraid
36:19
to involve police due to immigration status and
36:22
disbelief from authorities. This is all I'm going
36:26
into on this episode. Oh, man. Holy shit. Chelsea.
36:29
Yeah? I also just learned that everything going
36:31
on in the States is impacting UFO reporting.
36:35
How did you just learn that? We're in the middle
36:37
of an episode. No. But he said he was worried
36:41
about his immigration status, so he didn't want
36:43
to report anything. Oh, you did just learn it.
36:45
Okay. Yeah. I didn't get outside of what I was
36:48
telling you. No. You're right. So can you imagine
36:52
how many UFOs are missing out on right now? Well,
36:55
I know it could happen here. They're saying people
36:58
scared of their immigration status are not going
37:00
to the hospital right now. They're not going
37:02
to the hospital. They're not reporting crimes.
37:04
They're not reporting to courts. So I guess it
37:06
would affect UFO sightings. Yeah, absolutely.
37:10
Interesting thing to find out. So yeah, all I'm
37:13
going to say here, you can Google and find the
37:15
plate and I would be interested to reverse Google
37:18
search that. However, They do link whatever the
37:22
writing is on this thing on learning to drive
37:25
to the mall mall plate. That's what I found out
37:28
from it. So now we're going to take a look at
37:30
the third video. And the third video, Ivan0135
37:34
about alien and UFO documents. Posted the 8th
37:38
of May, 2011. The video description in response
37:42
to posts about the documents. And then he has
37:45
a link to the first and second videos there.
37:48
I really like that they kind of post these videos
37:52
adding to it as responses to like, oh, these
37:54
are probably fake. The video track shows text
37:59
messages from Ivan0135 addressing negative reactions
38:04
he has received about the previous two videos.
38:07
In the background is a handprint from a hand
38:10
with four fingers, a thumb and three fingers.
38:13
In the end, a final sentence fades in and out.
38:17
No audio on this one. Ivan0135 in response to
38:22
posts about the documents. The material is an
38:25
edited compilation of the documents that we have.
38:29
Your opinion and the conclusion you draw from
38:31
this material do not depend on us. Maybe you
38:34
are looking in the wrong direction. You are the
38:37
ones who reject this material. Sources will not
38:40
be revealed. Information that may involve an
38:43
agency or people will not be disclosed. However,
38:54
you are speculating and making conjectures about
38:58
its origins. The material does not belong to
39:01
any film, video game, television series, or other
39:05
commercial products that have been revealed to
39:07
date or which are currently in production. Wow,
39:09
so there's no actual video with this. It is all
39:12
just writing. So that's the video. The feedback
39:32
made him post a somewhat emotional response containing
39:35
a list of sentences clarifying basic facts about
39:38
the material, posting such videos on a social
39:41
media platform with the most heterogeneous audience
39:45
imaginable, everyone, and expecting something
39:48
else than disbelief and ridicule for editing
39:51
bits of allegedly leaked alien footage is incomprehensible.
39:55
He seems to be annoyed by people speculating
39:58
about the origin of the tapes. Curiously, He
40:01
was the one that put the insignia of the KGB
40:03
in front of the first clip and is now claiming
40:06
that there is not any reference which may link
40:09
the material to any organization that is working
40:12
today in the material exposed. He is either contradicting
40:16
himself here or added working today on purpose
40:20
to indicating that at least the modern KGB is
40:23
not involved anymore. Ivan's claims about the
40:25
material not belonging to any film, video game,
40:28
etc. holds to this day. So far, not a single
40:32
frame has shown up anywhere else. People occasionally
40:35
claim they saw segments of the video without
40:38
cropping before, but always fail to provide proof.
40:42
Hinting at further material being released if
40:44
certain conditions are met makes us wonder what
40:47
those could possibly be. Pandora's box has already
40:50
been opened, so why hold back the rest of the
40:54
material and participate in this game of secrecy?
40:57
The obvious reason would be that no additional
40:59
material exists. Let's not underestimate the
41:03
human factor. Assuming someone's sitting on a
41:05
treasure trove and deciding to slowly release
41:08
it to the public, expecting overwhelming reactions
41:12
and gratitude but receiving the opposite the
41:14
person now being upset decides to cancel disclosure
41:17
for the underserving public so without forming
41:21
an overwhelming opinion take because we have
41:25
one more video left we're going to look at it
41:27
the next and then we have some surprises what
41:30
are you thinking so far um To be frank with you,
41:36
I'm kind of underwhelmed. I see a lot of the
41:39
same techniques that I see in other faked footage
41:42
being presented here. And the fact that they're
41:46
added to, the fact that they're not leaking the
41:50
whole thing, and in fact when people are disputing
41:53
or talking about how this might be fake, they're
41:55
releasing more footage, leads me to believe that
41:58
this is not something that was all... He's a
42:00
little bit combative, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
42:03
Now, with that, I will see you. This video footage
42:06
is being seen by the community still to this
42:11
day as something different from the other leaked
42:13
footage where they were thinking it might be
42:16
a release for a video and nothing ever followed
42:19
up with it. The effects are much different. They
42:23
cannot prove. that this is definitely a puppet
42:27
being used. This is definitely CGI being used.
42:31
It's all coming up as something that was shot
42:34
live and that has very authentic movements and
42:39
stuff like that to it right now. And basically
42:41
they're not being able to debunk it at this point.
42:45
So this is kind of what sets Skinny Bob aside.
42:50
Apart from the rest, yes. Apart from the other
42:53
ones that are clear hoaxes to this day. That's,
42:57
I think, a good place to leave it on part one
43:00
of the Skinny Bob episodes. Okay. And with that,
43:03
because we're going to talk a lot more about
43:05
this after this, I have been Taylor, here with
43:07
Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe. Thank
43:09
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