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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-30 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Great folks.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, morning, it's some time.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning class, lazy and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, beholding six one guard from Brighton, Illanois
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  Speaker 4: and former high school basketball stand What the hell does
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  Speaker 4: that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Don't jumped any conclusions. Not a god, You've got to
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  Speaker 2: lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 5: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball.
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  Speaker 6: To Pluto getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 6: just openly admit I'm.
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  Speaker 2: A fat, out of shape X athlete.
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  Speaker 7: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 5: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready to get Hey, good Tuesday morning till
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  Speaker 2: you welcome into the live radio program that is Chucking
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  Speaker 2: Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan is here, former Mariner Bucky Jacobson. In my
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  Speaker 2: name is Chuck Powell. We're going to take you through
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  Speaker 2: the next four hours of course, building you up till
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  Speaker 2: Saturday's big game, Seahawks taking on the forty nine Ers.
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  Speaker 2: So much at stake, and the path has changed a
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  Speaker 2: little bit for the Seahawks toward the playoffs, which we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into here in a moment. We've got our normal
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  Speaker 2: array of outstanding Tuesday guests that we've used all football
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  Speaker 2: season long that we'll remind you of with what's on
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  Speaker 2: tap here in a matter of moments. But this is
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  Speaker 2: the final show of twenty twenty five right here. You're
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  Speaker 2: experiencing it right here, right here, real lifetime.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, like I thought, it feels like like
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  Speaker 8: maybe Sparkly spark you know, because like when you end
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  Speaker 8: the year, you got like fireworks and things like that,
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  Speaker 8: and everyone wears glitter and it's all, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's only it's only six o two. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's way to go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's still time. It was like I just was.
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  Speaker 2: Any surprises, but yeah, Sparkly woke up.
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  Speaker 6: I went to the bathroom and then there was fireworks
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  Speaker 6: going off. As I went outside, there was a parade
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  Speaker 6: down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. One of those I rode in one
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  Speaker 2: of those duck boats.
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  Speaker 6: All the way here. I was thrown skittles out to people.
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  Speaker 6: There wasn't many people on the side, but there was
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  Speaker 6: still some.
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  Speaker 2: People skittles, don't they Yeah, Yeah, for miles around, very
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  Speaker 2: sparkly for me.
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  Speaker 6: People celebrating the last day of of our show before
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  Speaker 6: this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't have that experience, but I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: you do.
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  Speaker 2: It is sort of strain. I don't know. Maybe this
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  Speaker 2: has existed my entire life. I don't know, but it
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  Speaker 2: does feel like the older that I get that though,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think it's because of my age. I
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  Speaker 2: think that the world's just changing, like this time of
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  Speaker 2: the year, like nothing is happening. Yeah. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: have like four people in the office they say.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday, day of the year is December fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it feels like to me every day it
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  Speaker 2: gets a little more exactly. And I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing. I know, you know, everybody says across
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  Speaker 2: the globe that Americans work too hard and we do
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  Speaker 2: too many hours and it's not healthy and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: We need a break, So maybe it's maybe it's I'm
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  Speaker 2: not criticizing it I think maybe it's a good thing,
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  Speaker 2: but it just does sort of feel and I know
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  Speaker 2: there's out there listening that do a lot harder jobs
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  Speaker 2: than what we do, but it feels like there's like
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  Speaker 2: ten of us working, yeah, for like the last two
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  Speaker 2: weeks of the year. So I don't know, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. I think that. But it
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  Speaker 2: gets more celebrative this time of year every year, and
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  Speaker 2: so's there's no doubt that I've experienced that here driving
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  Speaker 2: around just actually existing here for the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, on a Monday night, I just went out
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  Speaker 2: for my walk. I went out for a walk on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: just around the neighborhood, around the town, and I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 2: there were people packed in the restaurant on a Monday night. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I probably a little bit of we've been cooped
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  Speaker 2: up with our families all weekend long and I just
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  Speaker 2: want to get out and civilization. Maybe there's some of that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's it's the I don't think anybody's working right now,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just like the celebration is on. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it's great, don't get me wrong, but it does
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  Speaker 2: feel like it gets ramped up a little more every year. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think Monday nights it's good.
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  Speaker 6: Good to hear that the people are out and about
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  Speaker 6: and doing their thing and really getting making the most
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  Speaker 6: of the holidays because I mean, yeah, we do hear
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  Speaker 6: like in Europe for example, althoughay they do like four
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  Speaker 6: day work days, right or four day work weeks and
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  Speaker 6: us having a couple like three day ones right, bang bang, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to probably start a petition and see if
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  Speaker 6: we can make that a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 6: solid thing. I mean, I'd even be willing to go Monday,
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  Speaker 6: Wednesday and Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that is very noble.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would prefer Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday
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  Speaker 6: and then just get Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off. Would
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  Speaker 6: be the way in which I'm going to propose it.
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  Speaker 6: But it's one of those you know, you shoot for
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  Speaker 6: the moon and you land in the stars type of thing. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: because I think it just makes more sense, more rested,
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  Speaker 6: just everybody. It'll just be better for everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, no, thank you, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it done.
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  Speaker 8: I was wondering too, though, if having New Year's Eve
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  Speaker 8: on a Wednesday has anything to do with like more
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  Speaker 8: people out on a Monday, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 8: Like they're already kind of in a party mood.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's both hand in hand. I was just
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  Speaker 2: talking to Bucky about this yesterday, and I guess things
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  Speaker 2: are done differently in Oregon or I'm misremembering the way
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  Speaker 2: that they were done in Illinois. But I remember as
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  Speaker 2: a kid, you rooted for Christmas to fall off in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the week, and then because I met,
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  Speaker 2: New Year's fell in the middle of the week, and
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  Speaker 2: the reason was that you got like two and a
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  Speaker 2: half weeks off because they didn't mess around with we're
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  Speaker 2: just going to send you to school for a day
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  Speaker 2: or for two days. Why are we going to do that?
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  Speaker 2: So you got two and a half where if it
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  Speaker 2: fell on like a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you'd get a half day on Thursday, and then you'd
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  Speaker 2: go all the way through and then you would end
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  Speaker 2: up with only a week and a half off. Oh
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  Speaker 2: doing it that way, I maybe I'm misremembering it, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's the way that it was when
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  Speaker 2: I was a kid. You always rooted for the holidays
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  Speaker 2: to Christmas and New Year's to fall in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the week so that you got more time off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe that's not something that they did here in
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  Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 3: This was just two weeks across the board, that's.
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  Speaker 2: What That's what Bucky said, And maybe I'm not remembering
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  Speaker 2: it the right way.
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  Speaker 6: I think Illinois just is they're real more. They're a
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  Speaker 6: lot more strict on getting their education.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah here sledding more important than I think. People
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  Speaker 2: from southern.
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  Speaker 6: Illinois are well known for being high heard. Yeah, thats
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  Speaker 6: what known Cornfield's and academia.
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  Speaker 2: The connection between US and Oxford.
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  Speaker 8: Oh boy, I mean you basically have just a tunnel
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  Speaker 8: that goes from Illinois all the way to Oxford.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the classmates that I have that went
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  Speaker 2: to Harvard law.
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  Speaker 7: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, we're underway here on this thirtieth day
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  Speaker 2: of December twenty twenty five. It is our last show,
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  Speaker 2: and so yes, we're glad you're celebrating the holidays. I
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  Speaker 2: hope it hasn't taken away time from us. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: if you have a day away from work, you're still
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  Speaker 2: telling the wife and kids, I gotta get up at
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  Speaker 2: five point fifty eight to catch you know, Ashley Buck
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  Speaker 2: and Chuck, and so we really appreciate it. Yeah, we do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's you know right here.
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  Speaker 3: That's where that gets right in the old ticker.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And so we got a lot to break
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  Speaker 2: down today, including last night's Monday night football game, which
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  Speaker 2: did kind of alter things for the Seahawks and their
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  Speaker 2: path toward the Super Bowl. The Atlanta Falcons won over
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  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams last night twenty seven to twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams did battle back despite Matt Stafford having one
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  Speaker 2: of his worst games of the entire season, an MVP
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  Speaker 2: like season. He was just inaccurate at times in the game,
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  Speaker 2: but the Rams almost came back because the Atlanta Falcons
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  Speaker 2: don't know how to win. And yet the Falcons played
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  Speaker 2: extraordinarily well in the first half. They were far, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they were just flying all over the field. Bejon Robinsons
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  Speaker 2: showcase game for him. But the Falcons do win it
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  Speaker 2: final score of twenty seven to twenty four in that contest.
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  Speaker 2: And because of that win, and I think this is
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  Speaker 2: significant news, which is why I'm leading with it here
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  Speaker 2: on a Tuesday morning, our last show of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Is that this guarantees that the Seahawks are going to
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  Speaker 2: be on the one, four and five side of the
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  Speaker 2: NFC bracket. The Rams can still get the five seed,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no way now that the Seahawks can end
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  Speaker 2: up the sixth seed. There's no way that the Rams
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  Speaker 2: can catch the Seahawks because of their loss to the
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons last night. And I mean, if anybody's studying
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  Speaker 2: the bracket and anything can happen in the playoffs, obviously
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  Speaker 2: you want the one because the one gives you the
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  Speaker 2: buy and home field advantage throughout the playoffs, the only
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  Speaker 2: buye and the only team to have home field advantage
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  Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs. But if you want something else, and
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  Speaker 2: they talked about this in the broadcast last night, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams might blow their chance at the five seed and
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  Speaker 2: then you've got to go on the road to Philly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or you've got to go on the road to Chicago. Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: who's playing really well and you don't know what kind
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  Speaker 2: of weather you're going to get in that situation, and
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  Speaker 2: the difference between that and getting to play at Tampa
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  Speaker 2: who's lost seven of their last eight, or Carolina, who
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  Speaker 2: you just saw how kind of an ep that they are.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a completely different road to the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl, and you want that road to be as
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  Speaker 2: easy as it can get. The road to the super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl got easier last night for the Seattle Seahawks because
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  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons took out the Los Angeles Rams.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're obviously still wanting that number one. You want
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  Speaker 6: that buy and advance through the first round without even
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  Speaker 6: having to lace up your cleats. But if you can,
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  Speaker 6: if you don't find a way to go on the
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  Speaker 6: road and be the Niners, and yeah, you find yourself
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  Speaker 6: either going to Carolina or Tampa, like you said, definitely
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  Speaker 6: is an easier path than the Chicago Bears are Philadelphia Eagles.
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  Speaker 6: Now on any given day, I mean I think on
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  Speaker 6: any given day, anybody that gets in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Can do something.
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  Speaker 6: But I would just think the betty you know, folks
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  Speaker 6: that are betting making odds, they would just say, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you're sitting in the five spot. There's a whole heck
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  Speaker 6: of a lot better than having to travel and play
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  Speaker 6: either Philadelphi, because Philadelphia, you don't know what you're gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know for sure. If you know what
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna get with the Bears.
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  Speaker 6: They're they're improved, Yeah, but I would just feel like
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  Speaker 6: the floor of both those teams is definitely above the
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  Speaker 6: floor of the Panthers and the Bucks.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I think the NFC this year, and we talked about this,
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  Speaker 2: I think that was the day you weren't here. There's
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  Speaker 2: not a great team. I think that the Seahawks have
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  Speaker 2: touched greatness. I don't think they've been consistently great this year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the forty nine ers have been consistently great.
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  Speaker 2: And now the Rams, who were the closest thing to
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  Speaker 2: being consistently great, have suddenly lost to Carolina in Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: in the last month, So they're certainly not playing their
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  Speaker 2: best football and maybe they've fallen off of there. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's a wild Both AFC and NFC
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  Speaker 2: could be all wild postseason this year. And of course
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  Speaker 2: there's the element of anything can happen, and any team
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  Speaker 2: is capable of winning on any given Sunday or Saturday
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  Speaker 2: as it might be in the postseason. But in terms
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  Speaker 2: of just a path there, I mean, there's no question
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  Speaker 2: that you would rather play at Tampa or at Carolina
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  Speaker 2: in Round number one than you would at Philadelphia, not
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  Speaker 2: knowing the weather, defending world champs, playing great defense, even
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  Speaker 2: though their offense seems inept right now, they're playing as
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  Speaker 2: well as the Seahawks are playing defensively in Philadelphia or
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  Speaker 2: at Chicago again weather element. They've been riding high as
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  Speaker 2: of late. So I mean, sure they could end up
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  Speaker 2: being a walkover for whoever faces them. Maybe they commit
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  Speaker 2: seven turnovers in the first playoff game and hand it
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  Speaker 2: to whoever they face. But in terms of just trying
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  Speaker 2: to calculate, Ashley, who you would rather meet, who gives
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  Speaker 2: you the best chance of winning and advancing, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I want to be on the four to five one
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  Speaker 2: side of the bracket in the NFC playoffs, and the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks locked that up last night.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, And I think that's been the biggest issue in
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  Speaker 8: the NFC is in general, the inconsistencies with so many
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  Speaker 8: teams you don't know who you're getting. You look at
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  Speaker 8: the Eagles, though, and I do think I would liken
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  Speaker 8: it to counting out the Chiefs in the playoffs the
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  Speaker 8: last couple of years. Right, Oh, they've been down, they
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  Speaker 8: haven't had a great year. Well, come playoff time, those
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  Speaker 8: teams are primed for that right, So I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 8: to face anybody like that that has that experience that
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  Speaker 8: just won a Super Bowl, because you never know how
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  Speaker 8: they're going to step up when the postseason comes.
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  Speaker 3: So, watching the game last.
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  Speaker 8: Night and think game, I was talking to five Iron
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  Speaker 8: and I was like, does this change anything for the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 8: And neither of us knew. So the fact that we're
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  Speaker 8: finding that out, I love that that at least it
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  Speaker 8: doesn't seem that big of a deal. But I do
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  Speaker 8: think it is a much bigger deal to at least
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  Speaker 8: know you're avoiding that six seed.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I don't think you want to admit it as
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  Speaker 2: an NFL team, I don't think you ever would admit
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  Speaker 2: that you like your path, yeah, because that's bulletin board material.
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  Speaker 2: But I think there's a reason Joe and Troy were
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  Speaker 2: making such a big deal out of it last night.
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  Speaker 2: With the Rams. They're gonna blow their chance, yeah, to
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  Speaker 2: be the five seed here. I mean, they still had
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  Speaker 2: a chance at the one seed if things crumbled the
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  Speaker 2: right way over the course of the next couple of
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  Speaker 2: over the course of the game last night and then
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  Speaker 2: week number eighteen, but they're gonna blow their chance at
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  Speaker 2: the five seed potentially, and they still have a shot
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  Speaker 2: at the five seed if they If they win and
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks beat the forty nine ers, the Rams end
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  Speaker 2: up the five seed and they get to go to
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  Speaker 2: Tampa or Carolina. But the Seattle Seahawks can now finish
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  Speaker 2: no lower than the first big deal, and that to me,
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  Speaker 2: I think is a significant deal. So you either are
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  Speaker 2: going to get a bye and absolutely have the preferred
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  Speaker 2: route that everybody wants, or you get the second best route,
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  Speaker 2: which is five seed at Tampa at Carolina, and then
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  Speaker 2: you would have to face San Francisco again. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't get it, you'd have to face San Francisco again
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  Speaker 2: in the next round. But that's a pretty familiar opponent
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  Speaker 2: who's already beaten you twice. Under this scenario, that means
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  Speaker 2: they have beaten you twice already. And can you beat
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  Speaker 2: a good team three times? I mean, give me that
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  Speaker 2: road all day long over having to go to possibly Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 2: then Chicago, and then San Francisco, because that's what you're
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  Speaker 2: facing if if you don't end up on the four
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  Speaker 2: to five to one side of the bracket. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's I think you already touched on it.
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  Speaker 6: The idea of the teams that if you just take
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  Speaker 6: the entirety their entire work that they've had this season,
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  Speaker 6: Carolina and Tampa Bay are the teams that, not just
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  Speaker 6: because how you handled Carolina, I think you'd get a
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  Speaker 6: better version of Carolina possibly in the playoffs than what
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  Speaker 6: you saw. Not that they didn't show up or or
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  Speaker 6: have anything to play for, but you would just imagine
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  Speaker 6: that probably is about as bad as they're going to play.
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  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay just seems kind of lost. At the same time,
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  Speaker 6: that is a team that is just now kind of
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  Speaker 6: getting some of their players back, and so they're a
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  Speaker 6: little bit more dangerous, but none of them are is.
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  Speaker 2: Dangerous as Philly or Chicago. And I think that the
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  Speaker 2: Tamas lost seven of eight, they look atrocious. Now maybe
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  Speaker 2: they can come alive.
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  Speaker 6: That's some good players. They worry me more than the
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  Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers would. I'm just kind of putting it in
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  Speaker 6: the order of if there's four teams you could possibly
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  Speaker 6: play if you don't end up, if you don't end
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  Speaker 6: up getting that number one seed, and then Chicago and Philly,
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  Speaker 6: Philly is the scariest, and then yet Chicago but both
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  Speaker 6: of them going on the road, playing at their place
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  Speaker 6: with who knows what the weather could be like. That
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: is something that all of a sudden, you know, you
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: just kind of were like. It makes it feel even
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: more important that you want to get that number one seed.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, not that it wasn't already important to just
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: get a buye through the first round and get to
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: rest your players and get as healthy as possible, not
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: to mention everything through Seattle at that point in time.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: That's what everybody wants, obviously, but it does feel like
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: yesterday the Falcons.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Did you a favor.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: They did your favor at least of letting you know
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: that if you falter on Saturday against the Niners, you're
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: going to have what you would feel like is advantage
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Seattle going into your first first wild card game.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And who they really did a favor for was Carolina
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: because now there's a scenario where Carolina, even with a
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: loss Saturday, still gets into the playoffs, still wins the division.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because of Atlanta.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: That's right. Because Atlanta, if they went out and believe me,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the schedule makers did not weren't counting on the Falcons
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: winning last night. Yeah, because they made the schedule. Win yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Monday morning, yeah, probably, or no Sunday night, Sunday night.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: They made the schedule for week number eighteen, and so
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: there was an expectator. There's a reason Tampa Bay and
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Carolina are being featured by themselves one game only, because
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that's supposed to be the winner is in in, the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: loser is out. Well that's not the case anymore. The
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, with a win next week, end up with
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: a same record as those two, even with a Carolina
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: loss on Saturday, and that would give the tiebreaker to Carolina.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So there's a chance that Carolina has nothing at stake,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: but they won't know that when they play Saturday. You
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: know they would if they lost, then they're rooting for
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Atlanta on Sunday to beat the Saints because then they
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: still get in even with the tamp So Tampa Bay
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: can't celebrate where Carolina can celebrate on Saturday.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So Carolina wins there in, But there is now a
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: scenario because of the Falcons win last night, where the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers could lose Saturday and still win the division.
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: I'm just glad Seattle is not in that position right
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: where we hold our own destiny. We're not sitting there
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: waiting for somebody else to do something else, to find out.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It's just in our hands.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It's nice, all right, Let's find out what's on tap
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: for this? In our hands? Show what's on TEP?
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: What's on tep?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: All right? Falcons twenty seven to twenty four of the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Rams on Monday Night Football. The game also featured the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: greatest catch I've ever seen in my entire life. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: it was a catch. I mean, I got on the playground.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That's a catch. He held on to the ball even
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: after he fell. He was just out of bounds. It
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: just doesn't count as a catch in an NFL game.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But that was the greatest catch of a football I've
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: ever seen. I don't care if it didn't count.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It was incredible.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: That was unreal, and so it was pokin nakua. If
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you didn't see it, go see it. I still don't
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: even understand the physics of how he even caught that ball.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We're gonna ask Jean Stator about it and many other
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: things from the Seahawks Panthers game, because we've got a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: list of like thirty eight plays that we think the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: officials may or MA not have blown in that game.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So we're going to take a gene to task today
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Seattle at San Francisco Saturday at five.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: That's not gonna change, doesn't matter what kind of NFL
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: math that's going on right now. Greg Bell will join
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: us today to preview at seven oh five. So one
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: last conversation of twenty twenty five with our Seahawks insider
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell. Chargers to rest Justin Herbert and others for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: week number eighteen, and I got a theory behind why
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: they're doing that. We'll discuss that today at seven forty five.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Lamar's status Lamar Jackson to be determined. Something tells me
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: he's going to play, But something also tells me that
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: maybe Ravens have figured out that Derrick Henry deserves some carries.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So maybe, yeah, I took him about seventeen and a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: half weeks the Ravens at Pittsburgh Sunday Night football, and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: that will be for a playoff spot. The winner is in,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the loser is out. College football playoff resumes tomorrow at
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: four point thirty with Miami versus Ohio State, then three
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: games on New Year's Day. The Kraken will next play
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: on New Year's Day at home against Nashville. Unfortunately, they
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: won't be writing a five game winning streak. They lost
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: last night and a shootout to the Canucks three to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: two the final score. It snaps a four game winning
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: streak for the Kraken, and yet they are zero and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: four in shootouts this year. That's something that has plagued
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: them since they were birthed.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: That shootout was ugly.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Everett will join us today at eight thirty. And finally,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: a nice win for the Fighting Sprinkles UB one over
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Utah last night by a final score of seventy four
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to sixty five. And the Husky s hoops team will
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: next play at Indiana Sunday at five o'clock. Coming up next,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: do we have a quarterback issue or just a quarterback
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: turnover issue? We'll discuss Sam Darnold here on Chuck and
• 21:51
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  Speaker 2: It's a late looks at five, Chuck.
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• 22:10
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• 22:14
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• 22:18
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• 22:23
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• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Morning Live Radio programming for you here on the thirtieth
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: day of December twenty twenty five. Ashley Ryan, Bucky Jacobson,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and Chuck Powell with you. It is our final show
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. We will be back on the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: airwaves Friday for a Football Friday to get you set
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: this Saturday's monstrous game between the Seahawks and the forty
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: nine ers for the number one seed in the NFC playoffs,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: home field advantage throughout the playoffs, a bye and round
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: number one. Oh yeah, there's a lot at stake. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: then there's that nifty old rivalry thing you know that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: also yeah, I thot about that. Yeah, I mean you
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: can can't you just throw the records out the window
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in a great rivalry, right, yeah, yeah, So even if
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: there wasn't all this at stake, it's still be awesome, right.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks forty nine ers Saturday at five o'clock. And yesterday
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: we finished out Week number seventeen of the NFL season
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: with an Atlanta Falcons twenty seven to twenty four win
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: over the Los Angeles Rams. And there is some significance
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to the Seahawks playoff path with that result, And so
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: we'll cover that now with your frost brewed course like
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: choose chill headlines, and the path changes from this perspective,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: are now no longer a threat to end up with
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the sixth seed. There was still a possibility they could
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: end up being the sixth seed in all of this
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: because out of their same division, you had a chance
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: for the three best records in the NFC. Well, now
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that creates separation, enough separation between the Seahawks and Rams
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that no matter what happens in the final week of
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the regular season, the Seahawks at worst are going to
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: get the five seed in the playoffs, and of course,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: at best they are the number one seed, and the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: five seed puts you in Carolina or Tampa in week
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: number one, where the sixth seed could have put you
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia or in Chicago, and so to me sounds
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like an easier path. I wanted to be on the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: one four to five side of the bracket, and last
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: night's Rams loss assured that the Seahawks will be on
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that side of the bracket. Meanwhile, the Atlanta Falcons have
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: also monkeyed up a little bit of the process. Here
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it looked like a clear cut Carolina versus Tampa Bay
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: winner gets into the playoffs. Not so fast, my friend,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to quote Lee Corso. Now, with Atlanta having a chance
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to win out, they would end up with the same
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: record as both Tampa and Carolina. Should Tampa beat Carolina
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: on Saturday, and in a three way tiebreaker, it's the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers they get into the playoffs and win the division,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, even should they win on Saturday.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So not exactly what the NFL was thinking of when
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they devised the Tampa Bay Buccaneers taking on the Carolina
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Panthers Saturday. They were hoping one team's in the playoffs,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: one team is out. But it's no longer as clear
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: cut as that. Chargers are gonna rest Justin Herbert and
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: some others for their Week eighteen tilt against the Denver Broncos.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Can't make the Patriots happy. Lamar Jackson's status to be
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: determined before Baltimore tries to earn their playoff spot against
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on Sunday Night Football. The College Football Playoff rezuomes
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: tomorrow at four point thirty with Miami and Ohio State,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and then three games will be played on New Year's Day.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: You dub Huskies win on the hardwood seventy four to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: sixty five over Utah, and we heard the make delivery
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: game of the game from Everett Fitsu. The Krakens four
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: game winning streak came to a close at home against
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the Canucks and a shootout three to two the final score. There,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of headlines. Let's talk to Greg Bell.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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• 26:46
  Speaker 5: here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Budd.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Greg, Happy New.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Year, Yeah, Happy New Years, thank you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know Mike McDonald would never admit
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: it publicly because that would be in the form of
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: fall onto the umbrella of you know, bulletin board material
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: for an opponent. But I think he was pretty happy
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: with the result last night, assuring them to be on
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the one, four, five side of the bracket. Maybe I'm
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: wrong about that, but it just seems like even if
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you lose Saturday, that's a better path to the super
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Bowl than being over in Philadelphia or Chicago in Round
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: one of the playoffs.
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: I'm not sure about that because the past, the wildcard
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: pass the Super Bowl is treacherous no matter who you play,
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: because you gotta win three games on the road in
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: three weeks, and you just have to win two games
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: if in both at home. If the Seahawks went on Saturday.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Well no, I'm not saying that. I mean you want
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the one seed for sure. I'm just saying I'd rather
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: have the five. I'd certainly rather have the five seed
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: than the six for.
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: The first game. Then the NFL reseeds after the first game.
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: It's not a set bracket, so the lowest remaining seed
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: after the first round plays the one. So it's conceivable.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: Let's say that the Packers beat the Bears, and the Rams,
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: who if they can right themselves, are one of the
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: best teams in the league, wins their first Dround game,
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: and then if the Seahawks went to Tampa Bay Carolina
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: and won its first round game, it's conceivable that the
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: first seed would be playing the seven and the five
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: would host the six, and suddenly the Seahawks have a
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: home game against the Rams in round two. It's but
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: the simple math of having to win three games go
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: to Super Bowl rather than two means, of course this
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: is so important Saturday night for the Seahawks to win
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: in terms of the very first Dround game. Yes, you'd
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: much rather be the five than the six, and last
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: night's result breaks Seattle's way in that regard, But that's
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: of course not how McDonald and the Seahawks are viewing it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: They're viewing their process over results, and they make the
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: game plan and prepare accordingly to play another strong game
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: and win the game on Saturday night, and then where
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: do they play next? And that's kind of how his
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: attitude was yesterday about the Saturday game versus a Sunday game.
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: Instead of the NBC choosing the Seahawks forty nine Ers
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: for the Sunday night game, no surprise to me at
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: all that they chose Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers against
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: the Ravens, potentially with Lamar Jackson a winner out win
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: or go home situation. And we asked McDonald yesterday about
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: I got to play Saturday after flying back from the
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: East Coast. So what when do we play? Just tell
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: us when we play. So it's all about that stuff
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: that we are left those of us get to talk
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: about all the other stuff.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Gee yah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: I mean after last night's game where the Rams to
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: some degree felt like they just weren't really all there
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: to play at first. I mean Stafford throws a couple
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: of balls and right to their guys that pick sixes
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: and whatnot. But I am wondering, after last night's game,
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: do you feel like the folks over there at the
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: v MAC are our thinking we're the best team in
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: the NFL?
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I Mean they're preparing of.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: For a big game that has a lot of implications
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: with the number one seed and to buy and all
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: that stuff. But are they feeling like they're the best,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: because I mean, over in the AFC, I don't know
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: if there's anybody over there that is the world beater,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: world dominator, and that same thing really in the NFC,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: even though the Rams maybe have been the closest thing
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: to that, And yet they've scuffled here the last I
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: don't know, a few weeks.
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they have. Stafford looked nothing like himself last night,
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: all the way through the end of the game. Is
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: seeing wide open guys and everything else. I think the
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: Seahawks believe they have the best defense in the world,
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: and I think they think that might be enough to
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: get to the Super Bowl. And I wrote a story yesterday.
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: I feel like I've written this story about six times
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: the last six weeks. Can the Seahawks win the Super Bowl?
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: Can they keep winning? With Sam Darnell turning the ball
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: over like this? And yeah, I know that could have
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: been a fumble ruled incomplete pass. The fumble could have
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: been ruled an incomplete pass. And yeah, I know the
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: other interception, maybe Mike Jackson's foot is on the end line.
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: It was still a poor throw and for that coverage,
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: but he could have had two more interceptions, including the
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: first pass of the game, first play of the game,
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: when he should have thrown a check down and end
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: up rolling out and throwing it off a defender's helmet.
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: The way the Seahawks are playing defense and the way
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: they beat the Rams, which wasn't because of their defense
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: until the fourth quarter, when it was because of their defense,
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: I'm not so sure they can't win the Super Bowl
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: as well as their defenses planned. To your point, Buckie, Yeah,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: and that's my point. At the beginning, they're saying I
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: could see the Bears going in and beaten the Packers,
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: beating the Bears that the Jordan love can come back
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: and play. Although the Bears look really good the other night,
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: especially on offense against the forty nine Ers, the Niners
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: defense is nothing like we've seen in the last decade,
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: mostly because of the injuries. No Bosa, no Warner Jackson.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: They are shovel themselves, and I think the Seahawks feel
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: confident they can score on San Francisco after having watched
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: what Chicago did to them. Ay, even Philip Rivers and
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: the Colts scored twenty seven on them. I think the
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: Seahawks believe they can score and I know they believe
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: they can hold the forty nine ers down. Can the
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: Seahawks do what they did the McCaffrey and the opener.
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: McCaffrey was a non factor. I know the Niners missed
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: two field goals, but they scored seventeen. Could have had
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: twenty three points. That's it. I think the Sea Arks
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: going into this thinking they can score twenty four points
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: on San Francisco's defense.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Seahawks insider Greg Mello is with us. Of course, you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: can follow Greg at g mel Seattle on x A
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and the Neews Tribune dot com for complete Seahawks coverage.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Is We talked to Greg this morning for the final
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: time of twenty twenty five, and of course we will
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: be doing a show on Friday to get you ready
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: for Seahawks and forty nine Ers on Saturday for all
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the marbles, And so I would ask next about Sam Darnold.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I realized that there are a lot of
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: people in sports talk radio. There are a lot of
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: fans sitting on their barstools and are worried a little
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: bit about the way he's playing. Mike McDonald has been
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: just the opposite. Let it Rip has sort of been
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: his theme. So as you're getting ready to play the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: biggest game of the year and then start the playoffs
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: for goodness sake, is there any chance that they'll get
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a little more conservative with Sam going forward or is
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: it too late to change that at this point.
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: No, they're going to push the ball down the field,
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: especially against San Francisco. I think they're going to test
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: that secondary and the lack of a pass rush. Forty
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: nine ers are last in the league in sacks because
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: of the injuries, and no Bosa and the lack of
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: affecting the quarterback could really make it a passing frenzy
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: for Seattle. I think they're going to open it up
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: quite a bit Saturday night and push the ball down
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: the field like they saw Chicago doing. Donald if he
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: finishes with the NFL league and turnovers and he's up
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: by a couple right now with twenty, you have to
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: go back to the mid seventies to find a team
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: that entered the playoffs as a top seed with a
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: guy who led the league in turnovers. Mid seventies. Man,
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: it's as old as I am, as old as you are.
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: That's been a while, and can that be sustainable?
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Is the question?
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: That's the question surrounding this whole push right now. To me,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: it's the the question of this team. They can't just
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: give San Francisco short fields like they did Carolina, like
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: they did earlier in the game against the Rams, like
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: they have for months of the last month. I think
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: it's eight touchdowns and eight interceptions in his last a
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: half dozen games or so. Yet, having said all that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: he made two of his best throws of the game
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: when it got down to be seventeen to ten and
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: Carolina was pushing. Donald made back to back throws as
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: Smith and Jig, but once on third down and once
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: on first down. They got him into the red zone
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: and set him up from the touchdown that pretty much
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: put the game away or the field will actually made
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: it twenty to ten before the final touchdown. But Donald's
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: been like thatover turn over and then comes back and
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: looks brilliant. I'm not here to say the Seahawks are
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: winning in spite or despite Sam Darnold, but I do
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: think this is not a recipe to win the Super Bowl.
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: And if this, if he has games he doesn't turn
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: the ball over, including Saturday night, I think the Seahawks
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: can get to the Super Bowl. The defense is that good,
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: but the margin is so thin in the playoffs, then
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: possessions become so scarce and field positions such a big deal.
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: You just can't hand teams that are good enough to
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: be playing four chance to win the Super Bowl. You
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: can't hand them short fields and points. You just can't.
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: With the exception of the Rams, they are able to
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: do it against pretty much five hundred and sub five
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: hundred teams. Atlanta, Carolina go down the list. The Colts.
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: I don't think they can do that three times, two
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: or three times in a row to get to the
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: Super Bowl. Just handing the ball to the other team.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: I'm well, I'm with you. I mean, there's no doubt
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: about it. Turns there's a reason why. It's a you
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: got to win the turnover battle, or it feels like
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: you do. But when it comes to him, what would
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: be more concerning from your perspective, is it the fumbles?
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Because he's right up there. I think he's right behind
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: cam Ward for the most fumbles in the league. And
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: then what have you got fourteen interceptions or whatever. Obviously,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: not all turnovers are created equal, right, I mean, they're
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: not all your fault.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Necessarily.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Sometimes the receiver clanks one and it goes up in
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: the air and you get an interception for it, even
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: though it shouldn't be on you. Sometimes you get hit
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: from the blind side and you know you fumble the ball.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: You want to be able to feel that, or you
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: want your guy to be able to feel that. But
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: what's your bigger concern when it comes to if there's
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: an issue with the turnovers? Because there is there's an
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: issue there, and yet I think the good outweighs the bad.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Bucky.
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: I think the concern is that when he's near pressure
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: and guys getting near him, he loses the ball, he fumbles.
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: It's just the security of the ball in traffic. He
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: handles it every play and he's going to have guys
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: come in on him. He has to be secure with
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: the ball and there are times when he's not. The
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: interceptions if they're going to continue pushing it down the field,
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: which they have for seventeen games, so I would like
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: to Chuck's point, They're not suddenly going to change, especially
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: with San Francisco lacking of passers. They're going to push
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: down the ball down the field, and that's says McDonald.
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: Would call it the cost of doing business. So they're
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: going to continue to throw, and he's going to probably
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: throw more interceptions between now and the end of their season.
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: Whenever that ends up being. It's holding onto the ball
• 37:34
  Speaker 10: when guys are coming in on you. I keep thinking,
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: it's been seems like years ago, but I keep thinking
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: that the Seahawks really should have beaten the forty nine.
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: Could have been forty nine ers at the end of
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: the game. If Donald simply holds onto the ball when
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: his right tackle got pushed into him by Nick Bosa,
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: that's a fundamental. I mean, he wasn't expecting it. Yes,
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: he was trying to throw a check down over the middle. Yes,
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: so he was raising his arm and he lost the ball.
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: The same thing he did against that Carolina raising the
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: ball to throw. He lost the ball. You have to
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: hold onto the ball, period, end of story. It's the
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: number one fundamental of his position because he holds it
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: on every play. To me, that probably is the most
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: alarming thing. I'm not here to say that Sam Donald
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: was a problem for them. The turnovers are problem, but
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: Sam Donald is shown this season he's also capable of
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: winning playoff games.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: For you.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed. What's the latest with him.
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a big deal because they didn't have Shaheed
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: the first time they played the forty and I didn't
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: have she for half the season, and he has tilted fields,
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: changed field position with the He basically the reason they
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: came back against the Rams with that pump return when
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: they're down sixteen the week through the fourth quarter. Look,
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: the average concussion, not every concussion, to say, not every
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: brain's the same, And I'm never going to spouse somebody
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: rushing back from a concussion and more important things in
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: quality of life than playing a football.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Game with a head injury.
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: The average concussion is nine days of recovery time. They
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: only have six five really between playing when he got
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: the concussion and Saturday. I wouldn't think he's going to play.
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: McDonald said that he's doing well early in the concussion protocol.
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: But there's a very strict five step process that the
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: NFL has prescribed that you have to go through, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: you can't go from one phase to another until you're cleared.
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: And if you have a setback of any symptoms reappearing
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: as you increase your physical activity, you got to go
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: back to the previous phase. I can't see that six
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: days pulling that off. And by the way, that was
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: needless to say, a penalty on Mike Jackson, the former
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: Seahawks corner three yard four yards into the White rodeo,
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: throwing him down onto his head into the Carolina bench,
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: and then standing over and pushing down on him. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: asked McDonald what he thought of that play yesterday, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 10: he said, well, we put a lot of plays into
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: the league for review on my things recalled and why
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: they weren't, and obviously we're going to protect our hope
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: that our players get protected. They didn't like that. They
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: definitely thought that's an unnecessary injury. They may be feeling
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: the effects and field position and game breaking, not to
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: mention defenses have to play Smith and Jig, but a
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: little more honestly, with the speed of Shaheed down the
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: field in the offense, that's gonna be a big loss
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: if you can't play, and it would surprise me.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: If you can. Well, Happy New Year, sir, and Joy
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: celebrate and then we'll reconvene on Friday for one more
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: conversation about this monster game coming up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you.
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: It's not like last week for Seahork fans to know
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: they're not taking New Year's Day off. They are actually
• 40:36
  Speaker 10: meeting today, practicing a little bit today, and then Wednesday, Thursday,
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: they're practice in full go. There'll be an injury report
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: today for a Saturday game. The NFL requires them put
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: an injury practice participation report today. But yeah, different schedule
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: this week then last.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, Thanks man, appreciate you. We'll talk
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to you soon.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: Enjoy the new year, all right.
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  Speaker 2: there's no worry about that. That's good. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 7: New Year, Chuck Bucking Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any big plans where you're going to
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: be for New Year's.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: Actually, my lovely wife and I are taking off New
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: Year's morning and flying to Kansas City to visit the
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: grandchildren from my favorite child who's blessed me with a
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: couple of those. And again we're gonna work our way
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: back to New York for Week eighteen and a good
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: slate of NFL.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Would one of your other children throw a challenge flag
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: on that or is it pretty obvious and clear that
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you have a favorite?
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: Well, listen, daughter Natalie always gets the pass. The girls
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: always get the pass. And the other son, Andrew, you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: we just keep shipping more wine and telling him to
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: drink more wine. And you know, the guest house was open.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what's going on there, but we'll we'll
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  Speaker 7: work on.
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  Speaker 2: It, all right, all right, Well, I hope you have
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a great time. We'll pick your brain here about a
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: few things that happen, and I actually, I mean, we
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: got a lot of things to discuss from the last
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Seahawks game, but I do want to ask you about
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Monday night football. I thought I saw the best catch
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my entire life watching football, and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: yet they ruled it in complete because Pooka Nakua with
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: one hand couldn't keep control of the ball. That did
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: separate a little bit as he was falling out about
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: But I'm wondering, how is that Is that possible that
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: that's a catch and then a fumble out of bounds
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: because to me, it kind of looked like he had
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: his arm ripped away from him after he'd already secured
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the ball. So anyway, I'll leave it to you to
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: tell us exactly what you saw on the play and
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: whether or not the officials deprived it the greatest catch
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: of all time.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, Chuck, I appreciate that. You know what it's
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: I agree with you. It brought back Lester Hayes days
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: with me. But you know, when the stick them on
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: the gloves seemed like it was just like non human,
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: But this was not the case. It to me, that
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: was one of the greatest. Like you talk about sticking
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: a pass, he stuck it. But then you go into
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: these beautiful rules about how we're going to define what
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: a catch is and what happens to the player immediately
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: after possession, and you know what, You're right, he sticks it,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: he dots the eye, both sneed a in and is
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: he falling at the time that he is doing that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: So if he is falling at the time that he
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: dots the eye, are we away from the upright person
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: dotting the eye? And then the ball comes loose, who
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: cares or he steps out of bounds right after that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: But if he's falling while he dots the eye, does
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: he have to maintain possession of that football throughout the
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: entire process and then survived the ground. And I'm assuming
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure that's what they did with that last
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: angle that we saw. That again was two camera frames,
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: probably in slow motion, and looks like the ball suspended
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: an air completely out of his control. Was a great play.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: The player did pull his hand away, but in the
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: blended reality of real time, I don't even know if
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: that separation of the hand even exists right like down
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: on the field. Now we live with the replay situations
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: because that's what the stakeholders have created. But I think
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: this is one of those things where in real time
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: we slow that down just a little, you go, this
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: might be one of the great as catches we've ever seen,
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: and inevitably it ends up as an incomplete pass. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: that's some of the consequences of the replacmentarios Gee do
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: you like.
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just gonna ask, do you like that
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: they slow it down? I mean super high def, super
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: duper slow motion because to me, it's obviously going to
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: catch you guys in something that is incorrect or I guess,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: validate when you are correct, like last night's situation.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: And yet it also is.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Depending on whether or not the angle of the camera
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: catches it right. I mean, up until that last view
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: that we got, it looked like, oh my god, he
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: stuck that thing, and then you see it floating in
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: mid air, He's still caught the ball in my opinion,
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: but I guess by the letter of the law, it's
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: not right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Do you like how much they slow it down like this?
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: Well, no, personally, I don't. I would love to see
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: us find whatever percentage that is. It's something I've thought
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: about for really a long time in my world. I think,
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: if we turn this thing down twenty percent from real time,
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: ran this thing in an eighty percent slow motion for
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: so many reasons, and I think one of the plays
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: that we may talk about, the walker catch fumble, Is
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: it a fumble? Is it a catch? Da dat us?
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: If you slow that down only twenty percent, you just
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: look at that play and go, look, you didn't have
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: the ball along, and if it's incomplete, and in these
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: scenarios as well, I think so many things happen. And then,
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: quite frankly, Bucky, I think one of the bigger reasons
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: why I don't like it is I rep this game
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: in real time on the field, and just like players,
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: when you finally get to that place, hopefully from experience
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: and being out there, the game slows down a percentage
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: in my world that was about eighty percent. Quite humbly
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: that I thought I was seeing the game in slow
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: motion in some ways out there. If replay is reviewing
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: plays at a level that officials focusing on the game
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: at a high level should be seeing it. Now, we're
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: marrying in technology with what officials think, like when they
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: see replay then and they look at it the next day,
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: you know, I got to get that play right in
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: real time. But when you look at this pooka play,
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: an official is no way going to ever look and
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: we don't want them to and think, how can I
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: get that right? Whenever it really happens to me. So
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: it's kind of a it's a different level of why
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: don't like it? Outside of the fact that I think
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: the one hundred people in the bar look at plays
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: at twenty percent slower and we come to a better
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: consensus rather than this dissection of frame by frame which
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: no human eye could ever dissect and no brain could comprehend.
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: And you're adding that to a game that is officiated
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: for the most part without these safety nets. So no,
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: I don't And we could talk about that, probably for
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: a whole show, but that's really my rational will summarize
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: as I could make it well.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: In other words, somebody screwed us out of seeing one
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: of the greatest catches of all time, but Sawks fitted
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: from it, So no big deal. Geene Stertur is with us.
• 49:03
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• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the sear so much to comb over from that game.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I'll go ahead and start. I mean, it's not chronological orders,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: but since you've already brought it up, the walker fumble
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: incomplete pass or catch and where should it have been spotted?
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: And did Mike McDonald get told that he couldn't challenge that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and then did they get the spot right? And I
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: mean it was just utter chaos that entire sequence. What
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: should have been called in that moment, Now that you've
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: had a chance to analyze it, tons of.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: Chaos and you know, chucky. We had technical difficulties in
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: multiple games. Right in this window and in the rest studio,
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: you can sit for thirty minutes, truthfully and not have something,
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: and then it can crash from five different places and
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: perfect storm for us in an unfortunate way with the
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: little audio difficulty. But I thought the Walker play was
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: again that example as I saw it and got to
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: look at it in studios, slowing it down. If you
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: look when he possesses the football, this back foot is
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: just down, so it's beginning to come up in replay
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: that counts as a one. In real time, it doesn't
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: even look like it exists. And then you have two
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: really quick steps as he's turning tucking the ball away.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: But during those other two tap taps as he's fearwetting,
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: you really now touched three feet down on the ground,
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: and then he's turning in just as you said earlier,
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: he loses the ball on his own. But I think
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: if you break it down and really go to this
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: frame by framing, it appeared to me that there was
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: firm possession and three feet did make their contact to
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: the ground in a step ball though very quick steps
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: and take place now fumble. I believe Walker did recover
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: his fumble, which may have changed something about down in distance.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: That's the question for the Seahawks coaching staff. They also
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: are on the offense, so they have the luxury of
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: the play clock, even though time may have been of
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: the essence. But if you've got three timeouts remaining and
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: it's a play where you're looking like, look, we're going
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: to stop the clock anyway and get it too, for one,
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: throw the flag because if you miss, it's a timeout anyway.
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: You were going to take it. But that's above my
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: pay grade. But I thought if it broke down frame
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: by frame that there was a chance, a good chance,
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: that that could have been a catch fumble recovered then
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: by Walker, I think for a couple of yard games
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: further than the incompletion.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, well, there was a lot of crazy stuff.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: I mean.
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: Another interesting play was the interception. Mike Jackson intercepted the
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: ball there in the third quarter. The first review, the
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: first thing that I looked at was, oh, looked like
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: his toe was out of bound. They end up reviewing
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: it like they do all turnovers and said, yeah, his
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: shin hits the ground first. To me, that was one
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: where all right, if it did, then it did. It
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: didn't look like you could say that it did for sure,
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: as much as you couldn't say that it didn't touch
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: the ground. Is that the way you looked at it?
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Or could did you get an angle where you could
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: see exactly that it did touch the ground?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: No?
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: I think you hit it buckin. If I'm not mistaken.
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: Did they rule interception on the field on the play
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: I was trying to Yeah, so I think that one again.
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: And you're right when that leg buckles underneath where this
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: shin starts to play down by contact plays or in
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: this scenario, that shin right above the ankle. If the
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: ankle rolls or the foot rolls, they don't count it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: It's like the back of the wrist on a hand plant,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: So that really doesn't count as a body part down.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: But then right above that that body part once that
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: starts to crumble and hit that ground, And in this
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: case I think it was that man did that part
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: of the shin above the ankle make contact with the
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: ground inbounds and then a frame or two that foot's
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: on the white and again you're back to this really
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: wild frame by framing and then making a decision as
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: to whether the shin beat the foot down on the ground.
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: But I think when we get into sh it also
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: because we're not really down on the ground surface, you're
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: playing with just a tiny bit of is that shin
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: really down yet or is there this you know, index
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: card level of distance between it in the in the
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: surface before we thought it was down. But then I
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: think when you get to these the best and the
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: most prudent way, and really the way the book is written,
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: these are plays that are so tight. All right, let's
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: go back to what they did on the field. That's
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: the best answer for the play. But I thought it
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: was really tight. I kind of felt like the shin
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: was down before the foot, But man, you're talking one
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: two hundredth of a second camera frame difference.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So is it safe to say that if they
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: would have called that incomplete, that would have been held
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: up as well as opposed to all in.
• 53:50
  Speaker 7: That, I think Donald's pass fumble fell in that. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: think we had a we had so many things in
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: your game so quickly it was look it was job
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: security From an analyst, from your point, like, if I
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: ever want to like go sell myself somewhere, I think
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: if I take these two and a half minutes from
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: this game, it's like, you mean that could really all happen, Yes,
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: in one game too, So what do you think? Do
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: you think I have bow you once a year or not?
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, you tell me, but n mostbelievable.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most of it happened in one drive for goodness sake.
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Jeene s Terrator is with us here on the program,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: and that's right. You were in jj Watt's ear. I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: even wrote it down on all of my notes. But
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: for some reason, when I was recapping this last hour,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, whoever Jean's guy is was telling jj Watt
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: apparently that there was not a horse caller, So I
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: want to clear this all up. So we thought, and
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I think the whole world thought, that there was a
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: face mask and a horse caller on a JSN tackle
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: and that both were missed. And then jj Watts said
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: something to the effect of, I guess that wasn't really
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a horse collar. I don't know if you got in
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: his ear on that and explained it, but maybe you
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: need to explain it to us. Did the officials just
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: blow two calls on one play or is there an
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: explanation as to why there wasn't a flag drone there?
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the face mask myths one hundred percent miss And
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: from an officiating window, there's a deep official on that
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: sideline that really isn't or shouldn't be focusing on the
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: runner immediately. Whenever plays start down the sideline, that really
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: is for the official that will be kind of behind
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: the runner in that's case. But once that defender starts
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: to threaten the runner and win a hands near a
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: face mask, that downfield official needs a transition from the
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: blocking that's in front of them to the action on
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: the runner for secondary help because that official is the
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: only one that's going to see that head turning the
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: hand in there. So miss on the face mask. The
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: horse caller play just a little bit of level of subjectivity.
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: Now by rual, horse caller is inside the collar on
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: the side behind on the name plate, which this was,
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: and immediately pulling the runner backward. So in this one,
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: I think the face mask actually look the hands on
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: the name plate. The jersey starts to go down, the
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: other hand is grabbing the face mask, which kind of
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: twists the runner so it doesn't feel and I'm again
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: trying to teleport to real time, like is that immediately
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: pulling him to the ground or is he spinning him
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: with that hand? And I think a lot of the
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: spin may have come from the face mask and how
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: it creates the body spin. And now at the end
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: he kind of felt like as we went into the sideline,
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: you know what, I think he finishes him because of
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: what he has on the name plate. I get reluctant
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: to tell guys if I get to them on air,
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: if I think there's levels of some subjectivity that may
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: lead them into a place where they make this absolutely
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: definitive statement, and then this little break of a play
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: causes it not to be that. I'm more safe on those,
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: if that makes any sense. And in Jay J's case,
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: I think he's so talented and he gets so much
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: about what refs do, which most players don't, and it's
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: because of his study and prep and how he's really
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: morphing into what I think is really a great color analyst.
• 57:20
  Speaker 11: I think that's kind of where he was alluding to.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: Again, within this window, we had this technical difficulty, but
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: I thought he'd did a good job. The face mask
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: you got to get though, guys, Yeah, which you got
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: to get to play?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Is there one? Isn't there one horse caller?
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: Is it a quarterback or something in the in the
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: pocket where you can horse caller, because that was one
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: where I was wondering if that was part of it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: This wasn't that rule? But is there one?
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: Well, he's out of the pocket, Bucky, But yeah, player
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: in the pocket between the tackles. Horse callers are allowed
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: kind of because defensive players are blasting into an offensive
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: lineman who's got to reach over a defender to a
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: quarterback that if he's in the pocket for most situations
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: is stationary where the horse caller becomes more of a
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: threat if you are running and now I pull you
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: back and if the impact on the legs in a
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: running movement to pull backwards is more inclined for safety.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: So they do put that in in in the NFL
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: college found no matter where, because the quarterbacks are more
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: active inside the pocket. But that's the rationale behind where
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: they have that activity happen and why one is and
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: one is not.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Well, then there was an actual face mask penalty that
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: might have been the play of the game. It might
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: have changed the entire game? Was it a self fulfilling prophecy?
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Like we have to have another face mask to fix
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: what was missed earlier in the in the game, to
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: set the world right.
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: In the bunkyard. And when I played hoops on the street,
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: that's just called Baldo lodge. That's just called Baldo lone.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: We let with the sporting gods come up. They find
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: ways at times, and sometimes we're lucky boy that but
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: the Baldo lie I can assure you that in many cases.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Well, let's we got to talk about that, Sam Darnold crazy?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Was it a fumble? Was it an incompletion? Almost got
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: to intercept it? I mean, just the insanity, another insane play.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: So walk us through that one and what should have
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: been done?
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: It's frame by frame, right, I mean rule Most referees,
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: I would say nine to nine point nine percent of
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: the time in these plays are gonna rule fumble because
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: they don't want to be blown an incomplete pass and
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: find out that football started to move two camera frames
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: before his arm went forward, and it was a loose
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: ball basically pushed forward by our replay technology. So you're
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: gonna see fumble ruled almost always on that play, and
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: they should for safety for safe reasons about if it
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: is a fumble, let a play And then you get
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: into plays like this, which there are not many of those,
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: and it is that really almost by one camera frame,
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: this football all it feels like it is starting to
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: move just as this arm is going forward. And I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: think those fall in these buckets. And I think if
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: we stayed at twenty percent slower than real time, we
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: would still come to a lot of these conclusions, like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: you know what, that's too tight for us to sit
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: here and try to make some real definitive answer. We
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: go with what they ruled on the field, and I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: thought that still was in that bucket. Although pass fumbles
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: I have ruled on them where it was one or
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: two camera frames and felt like he still had control.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: And this was I think, quite honestly, maybe the closest
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: one I saw this year.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 11: And really, I.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: Think when you're just clicking one camera frame and it's changing,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: I think you stay with what you had.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: All right, All right, Well, there was a lot going
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: on in that game, man, Yeah, that lot.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: I think more. We could still talk more because Mili Pender,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: he actually inherited my ref Number one fourteen. He worked
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: in my ref studio before he became an active NFL official.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: There was a clip of showing him jumping over top
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: of equipment boxes without his hat on to try to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: get to the skirmish I think on the sideline during
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: the game. And I told the guys in the studio, well,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: when I had that number on my back, I could
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: have never jumped on top of that box like that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: I'd had to look for three players and say come here,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: lift me up, get me on that box so I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: can jump over here and stop the mess in the sideline.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: But yeah, there was a lot going on Fellow's for sure.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, cheers to a happy new year, and cheers to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: all the refs and the very difficult jobs that they have,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: and may they have a spectacular new year in twenty
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: twenty six, getting all the calls right because we're in
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and we're going to need a fair shape
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: here here.
• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:04
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, and yet.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, it's been my dream to be small spoon once
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• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: think the last time I chatted with you, because I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: took a little time off and we've had the holidays,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: we couldn't figure out how to win a game. And
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, I'm sitting here talking to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: you about not being able to make it five in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: a row. Last night so things have turned since last
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: we spoke.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, it sounds so cliche, but
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: this team is it got back to simplifying their game.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at their last five games. If
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you you know, we're not going to count the shootout
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: goal because it wasn't a goal against the Krack and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: now for five straight games have allowed one or two
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: goals in each of those games. It's been a defensive
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: structure that made them successful the first month of the season,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: which got them off to that franchise record start. So
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's been a simplifying of their game. I think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: when when you're going through slumps that will happen, you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: try to be a little bit too fancy, you try
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to maybe you grip the stick a little bit too tight,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: you try to do a little bit too much. And
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I think the message just got through to the guys like, hey,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you know, let's simplify our game. We know who we are,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: we know what makes us successful. And they got back
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: to it and it was at the right time the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: game and Calgary I remember, you know, listening to a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: couple of guys post game. It was it was very melancholy,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: it was very uh frustrating and very annoying in the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: locker room, the way that the guys worked hard and
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. So then you go to San Jose.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: You sweep your way through California for the first time
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: ever against three pretty good hockey teams and against three
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: teams that are above you in standings, and just like that,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: you're making up ground. You went from being seven points
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: back to at least for about forty five minutes yesterday,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: one point back of a playoff spot in the span
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of eight days. So the crack back in it. And that's,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I guess the beauty of this season, the compacted schedule.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Everyone is so tight, everyone is so close. You can
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: overcome a one, nine and one stretch with a five
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: game point streak, which is what they're on right now.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: Wow, that is crazy how quickly they got back into
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: the mix. And yet unfortunately the wind streak comes to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: a close last night against the Canucks in the overtime shootout.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, they just look tired to me. I have
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: no idea how difficult hockey is it. I'm sure that
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: it's a it's a lot, there's a lot going on there,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: but they just seem tired in the shootout. I mean
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: just the way in which they'd skate up there. Is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: there anything to that with the you know how they've
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: been playing up to this point and then finding themselves
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: even after extra time, having to go to the shoot up.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the shootout's been an area of opportunity. I'll say
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: they've worked on it quite a bit in practices. If
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you're asking me personally, I think the shootout was a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: wonderful gimmick twenty years ago when when they put it in,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: and now I think a lot of players, fans, maybe
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: you're going a bit tired of it, but it's still
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: part of the game, you know, the shootout is it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: it's a total crap shoot right. I mean Kevin Lankett
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: and for the Vancouver Canucks, I read all time that
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: he has won third keeam of his fourteen shootouts in
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: his career. There are some goalies that are just lights
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: out during the shootout. Kevin Lankinin's one of them. And
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: the cracking and running into some hot goalies, and I mean,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: you're really you can't coach the shootout, right, It's like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: trying to coach a home run derby.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean it's like, hey, you just
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: go up and hit the.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Baseball, give me your best move and try to beat
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the goalie. There's no system, there's no you know, two
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: on one there, there's nothing right like, it's go up
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: there and try to score. So you can't coach the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: home run derby. You can only practice invp. You can't
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: really coach the shootout. You can only just try your
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: best moves in practice. So many times and unfortunately for
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Seattle and they've fallen victim now four times to the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: shootout this year.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Well, if you ever do find yourself in a home
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: run derby, Bucky could at least give you some tips. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: that'd be great. Maybe you can't coach, you appreciate it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if you ever, But if you ever find
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: yourself in that situation, he's your guy. Yeah. Well I'll
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: coach you.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: It's just whether or not you're coachable enough and talented enough.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you are.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: And we're gonna go down the line that can.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I use a metal bat?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, we'll get you a big one.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Great. I remember the story Calin de Boor one time
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: told he was talking about how he played college baseball.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: He was he was a baseball prospect, and he knew
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: it was time to give it up when he said
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: he hit the hardest ball he'd ever hit his entire
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: life with a wooden bat, and it barely made it
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: out of the infield. And I feel like that's that's me.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like that would be me. I would just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: get a hold of one and it'd be a little
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: number right back to the third piece.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Ever fits you is with us? All right? So how
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: important then is this New Year's Day game with the Predators?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: And I say it from this perspective, So you on
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: this drought and then all of a sudden you got
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: in a tear uh, and then you lose a game
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: via shootout, but it's still you know, you don't win
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: the game. So how important is it then in this
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: next game against the Predators to to just remind yourself, like,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: all right, we're not gonna sync back in anything more.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: What we've been doing lately is real. That whole losing
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: straight that was out of character. We gotta we gotta
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: make sure that we got to keep this good thing
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: going and not less a shootout loss trip us up
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: in any way. So I've just asked how important from
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: that standpoint is winning New Year's Day at home against Nashville.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you said it right, you have to
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: get back on the horse. You can't let you can't
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: let that that game affect you moving forward. Nashville is
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: a team that is one point back of you in
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. So you're playing a really good team who's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: been surging as of late. Your next I mean, your
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: next ten games essentially are going to be against either
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: playoff teams, teams that are directly with you or two
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: to four points back of you. So against Nashville, I mean,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: you've had a lot of success against them. You beat
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: them twice in their building last season. The Kraken can't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: let that shootout loss affect them. And like I said before,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: their last five games, they've allowed one or two goals
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: in each of those games. They've gotten back to what's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: made them successful. They're a point back of Seattle. So
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you have to go into this game thinking another playoff mindset, Right,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: we have to get these two points. Nashville wins this game,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: they're gonna leap fraud us in the standings. That's the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: motivation going into Thursday, and then you're back in Vancouver
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: on Friday with a chance at some revenge, so to speak. So,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I mean two really important games Thursday and Friday. But
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: but Nashville, you need to get back in the win column,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: and you can't dwell on a really good effort last
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: night that didn't result in a second point.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, happy New Year to you, sir. Are
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: you gonna do anything? I mean, you'll be home, so
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: anything to celebrate You and Al gonna get together with
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: the wives and you know, maybe toast the top the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: space needles, you know, something fun, something you know, meg
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Ryanish like that.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my three year old to bed, and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: my wife and I are going to toasting nice glass
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: of sparkling grape juice and then we'll go off to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: we we celebrate.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: That what we're calling it these days. That's the weirdest
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: euphemism I've ever heard. Yep, sparkling grape juice.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: Sparkling grape jeers.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: We celebrate East Coast New Year.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: So it's been like four years since I've even made
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: it to midnight. I tried, I've tried. Yeah, it just
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Last year, yeah, last year, I was I was a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: bachelor on New Year's Eve. My wife and my son
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: were back back in Jersey, where she's from, so I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: went downtown. I saw the firewords on the needle. I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: was hanging out at Buckley's with some friends watching some football,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: and I caught the fireworks and it was really cool.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I've never experienced a Seattle New Year's Eve and it
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: was It was pretty fun last year. So I got
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: my one in. But uh no, we're gonna We're gonna
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: watch the ball drop in Times Square at PM and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I will be fast asleep by ten.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, cheers, stay cozy, Cheers to the fits Hughes,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you next year. We'll see you
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: next year, all right, ever, Fits you the voice of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: your Seattle crack and he and L will be back
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: on the call New Year's Night against the Nashville Predators
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: coming up next, Walker or Charbonnet? Do we have to
• 1:13:58
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• 1:14:02
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• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: college football.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 11: It's just like the menu at taco time. You just
• 1:14:10
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• 1:14:12
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• 1:14:15
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• 1:14:16
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• 1:14:18
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• 1:14:20
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• 1:14:21
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• 1:14:25
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• 1:14:30
  Speaker 11: This is college football and I want you to get
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 11: it all over yourself.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Is he available or is it too busy?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Oh he's waiting for you.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Oh he's waiting. Yeah, he's there on joining us now
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: on the program. Our college football insider, who apparently moonlights
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: as the head coach of the Dallas Renegades, just announced
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: earlier this morning, Rick new Heel is with us here
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck. Congratulations.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 11: How about that for some news.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: You're always breaking news these days.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: Well, I've played enough rounds of golf, so when this
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 11: operated opportunity came forward, it's too fun. And truthfully, guys,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 11: it's it's almost more college football than what college football
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: is today because every kid on the team is going
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 11: to make the same amount of money. They're all, you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: trying to chase the brass ring of the NFL to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 11: have that opportunity to play one more time. Most of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 11: the guys that play in this league that played in,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: the spring leagues that I played in back in the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 11: old USFL, and the one that I coached in the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 11: Alliance of American Football. They all just want that one
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 11: more chance to play a game that they love that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 11: they think that they can compete successfully in. But everybody's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 11: making the same amount of money and and is happy
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 11: to be there, happy to be there. So it's kind
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 11: of a little bit nostalgic to coach a bunch of
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 11: guys that are dying to prove themselves and dying to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 11: help each other and all doing it for the same amount.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 11: No one's trying to break the bank here, so UH
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 11: kind of excited about it.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: And personally, you just miss ball, don't you.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 11: I It's footballs is a uh And I think all
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 11: competitive sports are a little bit of a drug, right
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 11: you You you're involved, and you don't get it anywhere else.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 11: So I love putting teams together, creating a culture of
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 11: of uh, you know, one for all for one and
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 11: and finding ways to celebrate victory and uh fix defeat
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 11: for the next matchup and see if you can rise
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 11: to the occasions. It's a wonderful, wonderful enterprise and It's
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 11: been great to me, and so to get to do
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 11: it that my age is really exciting.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: All right, So how much of your time is it
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: chewing up? I mean, is this in addition to CBS College.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 11: The beautiful thing for me is that I give up
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 11: nothing other than a couple of rounds of golf.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 11: I'm going to still be with the CBS family. Is
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 11: that's in the fall. Uh, And I'm going to be
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 11: able to keep the radio gig for at least the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 11: foreseeable future. And There'll be some days when I can't
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 11: do it, but I'm going to be able to keep
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 11: my full ride program with Serious XM as well. So
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 11: I'm really excited about it. And uh, we'll see if
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: we can create some Renegade fans.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm already and I love that, uh that that
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: emblem you guys have. And I told Chuck that I am.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: I am now officially Dallas Renegades fan.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we all are.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: We Uh.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 11: I think actually both of you will be asked to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 11: try out, uh more than just fans. Yeah, You're You'll
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 11: be asked to come and participate in training camp begin
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: by the way, just so just so you know, just
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 11: at the end of there of February, so be ready
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 11: to go.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't know. That sounds like a lot
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: of work, me running out on the field to grab
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: the kicking tee over and over. I'm not sure. I'm
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: sure I'm your guy. Well, congratulations if we're excited for you,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: and certainly excited that we can maintain the relationship while
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: getting to talk to the Dallas Renegades head coach during
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: the college football season. So yes, if you're just joining
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: US coach new Isiell just as he's a coach again.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: He's going to be coaching the Dallas Renegades of the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: UFL for this upcoming season and beyond, so very excited
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 11: You know the quarterback that I had in the Alliance
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: of American Football, John Wolford. Yeah, it was a Wake
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 11: Forest player, right, and I've seen him play in a
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 11: bowl game. And all a sudden, I get this call
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 11: and from Bill Pollyan asking about whether or not I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 11: want to coach in this deal, and I said, sure,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 11: it sounds like fun, it doesn't interfere, and it's something
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 11: that sounds like a blast. So I enjoyed it dimentionally.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 11: But I got this Wolford to be on my team right,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 11: and he's still playing. He's made thirty million dollars plus
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 11: by coming back and playing. He was on Wall Street
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: when we drafted him. He had taken a job on
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 11: Wall Street and he came back and we put together
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 11: an offense and he made it click. And he's made
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 11: more than thirty million dollars in the NFL since that time.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: So those are the kind of stories that you love.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 11: But even those guys that that was their last year
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 11: had a memorable experience, and that's that's the goal here.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And didn't you win that title down in Arizona?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 11: Ended up we were in first place in our half
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 11: of the division. Steve Spurrier's team was in first place.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 11: They were seven and one in Orlando. We were five
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 11: and three in Arizona. But I Steve called and you know,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 11: named himself the champion of the league. And I said, Steve,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 11: you realize that the winner of your league and the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 11: winner of our league we're going to play each other
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 11: in the championship. And since that's no longer possible, the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 11: fact that we did play each other and it was
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: the hot shots that were victorious, I think makes us
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 11: the champion, and so there there's still that that rub,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 11: that rub, but the ball coach and I will will
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 11: find a way to find a conclusion of that somewhere
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 11: else down the line.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Why is that story just totally on brand for Steve Spurrier.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go ahead and claim this for myself.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 11: Totally claimed it, totally claimed. And I said, well, that's
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 11: so fast, my friend. I pulled up my number two
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 11: pencil and Lee corsoed him.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, let's talk a little college football
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: because we got some big games starting tomorrow with the
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: money versus Ohios eight. I mean, this is what we
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: did it for, right, to be able to create this
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: kind of drama right around the New Year's holiday. And
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: here we got four games over the course of the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: next couple of days. And it starts with the Hurricanes
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: and the Buckeyes. Hurricanes obviously coming in as a major underdog.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: What would they have to do to shock the world?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 11: They can't beat themselves. I mean, Carson Beck has six
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 11: ten interceptions on the season. Six of them were in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 11: their two losses, four against Louisville and two against SMU.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: So they just have to play within themselves in play
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 11: as they did against Texas A and M, winning that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 11: game ten to three. I think this game is going
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 11: to be low scoring. I think this is going to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 11: be kind of a don't make the big mistake, not
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 11: that Ohio State has had a lot of big mistakes.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 11: So it's up to Miami's defense to prove worthy that
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 11: they can corral Carnel Tate JJ Smith and if they
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 11: can do that, then this will be a four quarter game.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 11: And I really am looking at as you look at
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 11: the lines in these games, I'm really kind of looking
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 11: at the under in this game as being maybe the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 11: best bet. It's only forty and a half points, but
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 11: I think it's probably going to be less than that.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 11: And it'll be fascinating to see now that Ryan Day's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 11: calling the plays for Ohio State as Brian Hartline as
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 11: a new job. He's the head coach at South Florida,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 11: so rather than put it all on him, as Texas
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 11: A and M did to their offensive coordinator who'd just
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: gotten the job, Colin Kline had just gotten a job
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: at Kansas State, Ryan Day's going to call it, but
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: I think it's going to be a conservative plan on
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 11: both sides, not wanting to have anything bad happen. So
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 11: look for a low scoring game in this one.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: Okay, how about the Oregon Texas Tech game. It's first
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: one that comes up on New York Day. I mean
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: Oregon coming in obviously, the five seed versus Texas Tech.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: I've hearing a lot about Texas Tech's defense being legit.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, is it enough to slow down Oregon? And
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: how about on the other side.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 11: So again, this whole tournament, the eight teams left are
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 11: all giant defensive teams, with maybe the exception of Old
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 11: Miss But this is a defensive game. And if Oregon
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 11: can't run the ball. If Oregon struggles to run the ball,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 11: then I like the Red Raiders in this game. This
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 11: is a great matchup of two teams that have kind
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 11: of built themselves. They weren't necessarily born into blue blood status,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 11: but it built themselves into blue blood status by virtue
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 11: of putting incredible finances into their programs. And these two
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 11: fan bases are going to have a blast. If I
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 11: had one game to go to, this would be the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 11: one I'd go to.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, was that an old school will plug
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: into the wall, got a cord on it kind of phone,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: you know, with like the lights that light up at
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: the bottom and the red hole button. I mean, did
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: I hear that in the background.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 11: That I'm in a hotel in New York City getting
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 11: ready for the Sun Bowl tomorrow? And that was an
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 11: old hotel phone. Yeah, that we don't have those anymore,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 11: but that's what you just heard exactly.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: It was like hearing a bronosaurus roar.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 11: After we get off the phone, I've got to do
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 11: a zoom call with all the new folks that in
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 11: the UFL, so they're all making sure that I'm available, okay,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 11: And I said, I have a huge priority out there
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 11: in Seattle with Chuck and Bucking, so I'll get to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 11: you when.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: I get to you.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: It's not like a stegosaurus growling in the background. It's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: been so long since I've heard a phone like that.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Alabama versus Indiana. Man, this
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: just a wild carpet ride that the Hoosiers are on
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: right now. I don't want to see it crash and
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: burn here in this round against the Alabama, but it
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: feels like the Tide have got a little bit of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: momentum going. What are you expecting in this matchup?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 11: I gotta like Indiana. There's no reason not to. They're authentic. Now,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 11: they lost a big timer on the defensive front who
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 11: got hurt in the celebration unfortunately after the Big Ten
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 11: Championship game, but I think they're formidable enough to keep
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 11: Alabama at bay running the ball. Alabama was fourteenth of
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 11: the sixteen teams in the SEC and rutting, so I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 11: don't see it as a huge hurdle for them to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 11: keep the running game down. And if they can have
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 11: a running game themselves and control the clock, then I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: think they put enormous pressure on Tysimpson. It's not supposed
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: to be a very nice day at the Rose Bowls
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: supposed to be rain so if you're having to throw
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 11: the ball and it's wet, I just don't know that
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 11: it's the perfect combination for Alabama. So I'm going to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 11: lean on Indiana, and maybe I'm just you know, just
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 11: because of this magic carpet, right. I keep saying, do
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 11: you imagine a guy in an Indiana fan years ago
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 11: that basically was out taking out the trash, sees this
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 11: old lamp, rubs it, and all of a sudden, a
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: genie comes out and says, Okay, you've got three wishes
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 11: for your Indiana Hoosiers, says okay, I'll let's get us
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: in the college football playoff for the next couple of years.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 11: How about a Heisman Trophy? Oh yeah, take us to
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 11: the Rose Bull and we'll play Alabama. That all happened, Yeah,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 11: that all has come true. That is an incredible, incredible undertaking.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 11: As a matter of fact, we had as I did
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 11: the radio this morning, we had confirmation that ADULTA flight
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 11: leaving Indianapolis to LA had gone up to three thousand
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 11: dollars offering people to get off the plane because they'd
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 11: overbooked it and no one was leaving. Owen would take
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: the money not to get on that plane because they
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 11: wanted to be damn sure they're in Pasadena for this
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 11: ball game. Incredible story of Indiana football.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, what is it if you just I
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: mean looking at it the way that you can look
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: at it as with your experience and now with your.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Analyst hat on.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: What is it that he does there that has them
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: to where it feels magical? I mean you'll see it
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: every once in a while across sports where it's just
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: like that's that team's year and he's built this up
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: to where now all of a sudden, it doesn't feel
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: like this is Cinderella and the slippers going to fall off.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: It feels more like this team's legit. I mean, is
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: there anything in particular that you recognize that you're like,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: that's why.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 11: The quarterback is mobile enough to make plays off schedule.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 11: We saw that against Penn State. The running game has
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 11: been consistent. The two running backs will both be NFL guys.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 11: The offensive defensive lines have been built uh with great evaluation,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 11: meaning that they're the real deal.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 11: The guy who played center for Notre Dame in the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 11: championship game last year is their center, kid by the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 11: name of Pat Coogan. So they've got guys, They've got guys,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 11: and they've got experienced guys. It's a very old team.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 11: When you talk about, uh, you know, college basketball. We
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: get to the tournament, everybody says how old they are,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: and how old matters when you're in those kind of situations.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 11: This is an older team, a very very cerebral team.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 11: Mendoza's very very bright guy. He was going to Yale
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 11: before cal uh plucked him out of South Florida, and
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 11: then obviously Indiana took him and his brother. So this
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 11: is a uh, this is a well constructed team, disciplined team,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 11: and uh, you know, give Signetti all the props. He's
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: he's done a white whale of a job in knowing
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 11: what they do well, knowing how to offset their deficiencies
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 11: if there are any, maybe potentially a speed deal. But
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 11: when you look at their secondary those guys are going
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 11: to the NFL too, So it's it's been well constructed.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: What would make Lane Kiffin happier that ole miss keeps
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: winning or that old miss loses because whatever makes him unhappy,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm for that.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 11: Did you see the latest Kiffin video? Well, wouldn't pay
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 11: the ten cents for the plastic bag. Oh, he was
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 11: shopping and he took the shopping cart home because they
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 11: wanted to charge him ten cents for the plastic bag.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 11: Put the groceres in, So he took the little, you know,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 11: carry by handle grocery cart. They brought it home with them,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: And I'm saying, the guy just made ninety one million.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 11: I think he can afford the plastic sac but I
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 11: think Lane probably Let's give him the credit. Let's let's
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 11: let's say he loves those guys and wants him to win,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 11: so then that you're pulling for Jordan.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Pulling for the dogs. Go Dogs.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah. I think it's a fascinating game. I think this
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 11: might be the if you like offense, this will be
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 11: the most entertaining game and I'm anxious to see it.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 11: But I'm pulling for Trinidad Chambliss. I think that's a
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 11: great story from Farris State to Ole Miss and to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 11: be at this stage, I love getting more and more
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 11: notoriety for D two football.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: All right, last thing football wise for you. With Kyle
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Whittingham taking the job at Michigan, does that mean that
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: a Husky fan can finally accept that Jedfish is going
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: to be here next year? Or is the carousel still
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: spinning and you never know where it's going to stop.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 11: Well, unfortunately, it spins, and the NFL is also a
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 11: desire for folks, so we just have to wait through that.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 11: But I'm going to give you a huge, huge, ninety
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 11: nine point nine percent. You're going to have Jed right
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 11: where he is positioned there in Seattle, and you should
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 11: be happy to have that situation.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, very good, All right, do you have your quarterback yet?
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: With the Dallas Renegades? Or are you shopping for that?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 11: So here's how this all works. By January fifth, I've
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 11: got to give him a list of five guys, and
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 11: I've got to get from the list of which from
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 11: where I get to choose right, and everybody, all the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 11: other coaches will do the same thing. Then we're going
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 11: to draft over the next two months by position, so
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 11: it kind of will snake. If I've got the first
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 11: pick for the running back, then I would have The
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 11: next time i'd pick would be the sixteenth pick. So
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 11: if you had eight pick, you to get eight and nine,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 11: So the running backs. Then we'll do linebackers, and then
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 11: we'll do offensive line and on and on the coast.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 11: So it's going to be really fun to plunge into
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 11: all that. And I can't wait to get some guys
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 11: around me and see if we can't build ourselves a
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 11: championship football team. The metroplex of Dallas, Texas.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I think Dallas awaits you, so we won't hold
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: you up any longer. Thank you very much, very happy
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: for you, and very also happy that you won't be
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: leaving us, So it all works out.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 11: Get rid of me that easy, all right? You can't
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 11: get rid of me that easy enjoy that we can
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 11: Happy New Year to everybody and should be a whale
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: of a ride here as we crown a national championship
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 11: in twenty twenty six.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: That'll be awesome.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 11: Thanks coach, See you guys.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Thank Rick new Isle joining us right here on checking
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: back in the morning. If you are just joining us
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: just now and just heard the goodbye and you're wondering
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: what the hell's going on. He took the head coaching
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: position in the UFL for the Dallas Renegade. So when
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: Rick new Eisl was in that flirtation with Washington State,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: he was very serious about becoming a football coach again.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: He didn't get the opportunity with the Koogs, but the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: opportunity arose in the UFL and he jumped on it.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: And as he said at the start of our interview,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: it's pretty much like coaching college kids. That's the age
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: of the players and they all have the same goal
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: trying to get to the National Football League. So I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: want to be a part of that process, teaching and
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: helping kids reach their dreams. And so excellent for him,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: very happy and we're very happy for him, and it
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: will not affect his role at CBS Sports as a
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: college football insider or with us here at KJR. And
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: that's great news too, all right, coming up next, Old
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Judge will stop by one more time in twenty twenty
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: five Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: You earned it, twenty twenty six going out with a
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: back or twenty five going out with a bag?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: How can I throw these fools off?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: You did it and just it in perfect timing too,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: just like right out there right away.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was getting ready to do what I normally do,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: like come on, actually get up, and you were already.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Up he was, Oh yeah, he was up for it.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: The judge, happy work. All right, this is the Old
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Judge works. Basically, I'm going to bring up a few
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: different topics. Ashley and I will discuss them. We don't
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: have to agree or disagree, doesn't really matter. We'll discuss them.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: And once the Old Judge has heard enough, he bangs
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: his gabble, he weighs in, and then whatever Bucky says goes.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: That's the best part. We all know that. All right,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: let's do it. We'll start with this one. Mike McDonald
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: might not win Coach of the Year, but he should
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: finish ahead of Kyle Shanahan.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: I really love Mike McDonald and what he's done has
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 8: been really incredible. But what Kyle Shanahan has done with
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: the amount of injuries that they've had, and not even
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 8: just injuring injuries. I mean Brandon Ayuk isn't injured. He
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 8: just didn't come to work. Yes, it just was like
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 8: I'm done.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the money. Yeah.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: So for them to even be in the same position
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: as the Seahawks with a chance to hold that number
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 8: one seed in the NFC, I would have to give
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 8: the edge to Shanahan.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I think I would too. And I love Mike McDonald man,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: what a great hire, and I think he's going to
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: be phenomenal for years to come. And I think we're
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: beating him on Saturday. But in terms of who just
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: worked magic this year, I go with him. And yet
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: most national people believe that it's going to Mike Vrabel
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: or Liam Khan of the Jaguars, and neither are really
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: being strongly considered.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: Gavel, Gavel, Gavel. I need a little bit more evidence here.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: Does this win? Does the voting for this take place
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: at the end of the regular season, a regular season
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: I would say, if if you're comparing those two that
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: whoever wins it, whoever gets the number one seed, should
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: get it. Oh wow, because I don't. I mean, yeah,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: I think there's more Shanahan has done more with when
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: it comes to overcoming injuries. I mean, you lose your quarterback,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: that's a doozy, and figuring out a way to get
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: Mac Jones, who you know really wasn't all that good
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: when he was in New England, figuring out a way
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: to get him, and yet that's kind of par for
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: the course. And yet I think at times that ends
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: up getting overlooked or overshadowed and whatnot. That said, I mean,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: it's whichever one of these teams, to me, if they
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: end up coming out of this thing on top getting
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: that number one seed, that's the one I'd give the
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: odd too out of the two.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: All right, fair way to look at it.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Next one, the eliminated Colts are starting Riley Leonard at quarterback,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: and their season finale was the Rivers experiment as a
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: football fan, a positive or negative experience.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: Positive, I think, I mean they needed a quarterback.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 8: They obviously didn't have any confidence in their two that
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: they had, and one was dealing with injury. I think
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 8: to bring back Philip Rivers, it was a feel good story.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: You have a guy that I think annoyed a lot
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: of people, and now people have come to have a
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: new respect for and I mean you're seeing him miked
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: up all the time, and everybody's loving all the things
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: he says and the way he does it.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: So I think it was good.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you one thousand percent on your one
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: hundred percent, because I mean they went on and three.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: They didn't win a game. He didn't he didn't come
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: back and look like old Philip Rivers. He certainly looked older,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: but he didn't embarrass himself either. It gave us a
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: tremendous talking point. He was there to try to save
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: their season, not make their season, and I don't think
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: it was gonna happen with whoever they put at starting quarterbacks.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: So I think it was great for Gavel Gabble Gavel. Yes,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: it was a positive experience.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're right, he didn't win any games, but
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 6: he was trying to, you know, plug the hole in
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 6: a sinking ship. I mean, they we had already been
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: going backwards a little bit. They played tough teams, Seattle,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: San Francisco and Jacksonville own teams that are vying for
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: number one spots in their respective conferences.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I think it was it was the right move.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: I think that it's also the right move that they're
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 6: gonna give Riley Leonard the shot in this final one,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: like all right, let's see what you got, kid, because
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: I think Daniel Jones, if they do bring him back,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: he's the guy that they're going to rely on. He
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: was the one that kind of carried the torch and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: got him off to such a good hot start before
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: he got hurt. And yet so I think it's the
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: right move all the way around. You brought somebody in
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: that you knew understood how to play the position, even
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: if his body wasn't capable of doing it the way
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: that he once did, and now it's time.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks for doing that.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 6: And you know, he looks at it as I got
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: three bonus games in my career, and you know, now
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: he'll get to go right off into the sunset for
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 6: a second time. And I guess he's saying, that's it.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 8: And he had his whole team at the last game,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: which I thought was really cute. They were all in
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: the stands and this whole family takes up one suite
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 8: and that was cute.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: And so he has to wait five more years to
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: get into the Hall of He'll be fine, They'll be fine.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: He's still going to get there. The best way to
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: bring in the New Year is throwing your own house
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: party with.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 8: Friends, correct correct only way we do it, although we
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 8: used to do it at our house and then we
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 8: go to another friend's house. But yes, it's sweats and
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 8: Pj's bottles of champagne New Year's on television. Kids are happy,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 8: parents are happy, everyone's home and safe.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: I used to feel this way. I've gone a few
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: of these, and I used to feel the exact same way.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: And then there was one year. I'm just like, man,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: I threw this so I didn't have to drive. But
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: now either everybody else has to have a designated driver
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: or you know, or I got to worry about them.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Did they have too much? So now I'm wondering, and
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: I've never tried this before, like a staycation with a couple.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Wonder if that would be fun?
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: That'd be fun, yeah, cable, I wouldn't want to do
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: it with just another couple. To me, that would be
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess if I have some good friends
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: and it would be enjoyable, but I like having more
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: people to mingle with. I think that it seems like
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: the best is your own house party, because yes, you
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: don't have to drive, but you got to clean up
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: and you got to set up. The best is what
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: we did last year, and we're doing it again this year.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: Go into a neighbor's house that is crawling distance from
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: your own.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: Home or a golf cart distance. That's what we do.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: That's why we're Yeah.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think that's just meander over.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: Yes, I might take the tractor, load the family up
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: on the tractor, drive down the road a little bit.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 6: It can carry a lot of beer and other things. Uh,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: then I don't have to clean up the mess from fireworks,
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  Speaker 6: you know. And yet it's it's good. This is a
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  Speaker 6: good one where there's a lot of kids there, it's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of jiu jitsu people, so you feel really safe.
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  Speaker 12: Okay, nobody's going to beat you out. There was a
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  Speaker 12: lot of competitions you could get beat up, right. It's
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  Speaker 12: it's a very dangerous place but very safe. Like if
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  Speaker 12: some random person tries to crash that party. They are
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  Speaker 12: choked out, yeah, and yet.
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  Speaker 6: So I feel very safe and at the same time
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  Speaker 6: I have to guard my neck the entire time, make
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  Speaker 6: sure get choked out. But the kids all have a
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  Speaker 6: good time together. It's it's a fun party. And yeah
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  Speaker 6: I can just watermelon crawl home if I want.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: See that's what we used to do, but yeah, now
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  Speaker 8: we do. It's golf cart distance. So the Edelman's host
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  Speaker 8: and we just go there.
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  Speaker 2: Edelman's Julian Edelman. It was a good party.
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  Speaker 7: Yah.
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  Speaker 2: Now you don't have to worry about the you know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody puking in your bathroom, and you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: worry about the g I probably need to stay. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have a place I can crash? Right, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that. Yeah, you're right, Good job, judge,
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, all right. Next one, final one, squeeze a
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  Speaker 2: baseball one in before the end of the year. Brendan
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  Speaker 2: Donovan could help the Mariners in twenty twenty six, but
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  Speaker 2: the reported asking price is so offensive. I don't want him.
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  Speaker 2: Even if the MS get him at an eventual good price,
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  Speaker 2: I'm too offended to want him.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what's the current asking price? I saw something with
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  Speaker 3: ur Angelo said Jay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, well part of it, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to trade since j at all.
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  Speaker 8: I want to be able to see him actually come
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  Speaker 8: into the major leagues with the Mariners and do stuff
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  Speaker 8: for the Maritors. I mean, how many people have a
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: pitcher that can throw with both arms at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, I'll trade him, but I'm trading him for
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  Speaker 2: somebody better than Brendan Donnov. Oh yeah, I fear if
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: we have Brendan Donovan and I think he'd be an
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: asset to the Mariners. I'm going to hold it against
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: him the whole time he's here, how much they've apparently
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: thought he was worth. Yeah, Gavel, Gavel, I.
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  Speaker 6: Would trade for him. I would trade for him even
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: if it was Jurangelo. Sinjay right now, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: why I'm not a giant not to say that he
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 6: won't turn out to be anything. We don't know if
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: he'll turn out to be good at the big league level.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: Sinjay is what we're talking about, whereas Donovan is a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: now and a piece that will help you right now,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: and it's right now time. I don't know when or
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: if cin Jay will be a factor in this team,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: for this team in the future. You figure that he
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: will typically first round pitchers do and and he does
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 6: throw with both arms, and it's kind of a cool,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 6: novelty thing. And now I just don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 6: So to me, I'd go ahead and I'd make that move.
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  Speaker 6: If that's what it took to get him, was to
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: give up a guy that you think maybe will go
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 6: on and be something crazy special like we've never seen before.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: I'll do that because right now I don't know if
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: that's truly going to come to fruition for him. And
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: I do know that you need some upgrades, and Donovan
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: would do that.
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  Speaker 2: I just fear that spring spaying and we're going to interview,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say you weren't worth nearly as much
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: as what Cardinal fans thought you were.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm afraid you're gonna say too. But at
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: the same time, I kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of enjoy it.
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  Speaker 6: I will allow him to git you with my gavel
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  Speaker 6: if that happened, to check you out.
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  Speaker 2: One last thing to close out the year. Next Sports
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