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#1536 Type A Ninja - Tiff Hall · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I get a team. Welcome to another installment that you
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  Speaker 1: projector taps. It's jumbo, it's me, it's it's well. It's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting collective. I have here today because we are
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  Speaker 1: operating at a sixty six point sixty six recurring percentage
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  Speaker 1: of TIFFs. There's three people in the show. Two of
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  Speaker 1: them are called Tiff. I'm feeling outnumbered. I'm feeling marginalized.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go to Tiff with two e's. You'd be happy
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  Speaker 1: as a pig in shit, wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 2: You're out tifted, You're out Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I am definitely out tifted now before we go to
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  Speaker 1: our guest. The actual the reason we're here not that
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  Speaker 1: you're not important. TC.
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  Speaker 3: I you.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to you yesterday and one of my
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  Speaker 1: mates says this expression, flatter than a shit Carter's hat.
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  Speaker 1: Now you sounded listener, TIFs She's like, Tiff Fall's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh fuck, they listen to how they talk on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is nothing. This is not Channel ten.
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  Speaker 4: FU.
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  Speaker 1: You need to say at least one fuck today, Tift.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't. Otherwise you don't get your typ tick.
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  Speaker 1: So you were flat yesterday, TIF cook, what is going on?
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  Speaker 5: I was You know those days where you're just tired
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  Speaker 5: and you're a bit miserable and you just want to
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  Speaker 5: There are those days where actually the best thing would
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  Speaker 5: be to get out and be around people, but the
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  Speaker 5: hardest thing to do is get out and be around
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  Speaker 5: people because you feel like a misery gut. So that
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  Speaker 5: was me yesterday, dragging myself around going come on, TIF
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  Speaker 5: make a good decision.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so if yesterday were what were you? What were
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  Speaker 1: you out of ten emotionally and mentally yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Give yourself a score maybe three?
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  Speaker 1: And what do you reckon? You are today?
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  Speaker 5: I reckon I'm on the upward and I'm rocketing to
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  Speaker 5: a solid seven and getting better as the day goes on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I to talk about this, but let's introduce our
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  Speaker 1: actual guest, Tip All. Hi, tiff Aall, welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: You Project.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm bloody super excited because you're a big deal. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know which T shirt to wear? Do I
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  Speaker 1: wear the black one with Lonsdale? Do you wear?
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  Speaker 2: Oh You're funny?
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  Speaker 1: No one with everlast? I mean, fuck, I was holding
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  Speaker 1: up T shirts standing in front of the mirror.
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  Speaker 2: Look gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: You look. Thank you fucking liar Pants on fire Welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: It's tiff Pants on fire Hall. Now everyone knows who
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  Speaker 1: you are you of course, Well, you're an athlete, you're
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  Speaker 1: still an athlete. You're a presenter, a journalist, you're an author,
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  Speaker 1: you're a mum, you're a wife, you're an ex gladiator,
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  Speaker 1: you're a host. Like your busy as fuck, I think
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  Speaker 1: in science. So thanks for taking an hour out of
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  Speaker 1: the busyness. What are you doing today? What's taking other
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  Speaker 1: than this? What's taken your attention today?
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  Speaker 2: Run a business?
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  Speaker 3: So it was a meeting with our CEO, and I
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  Speaker 3: did some training this morning and that's pretty much where
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  Speaker 3: I've got to But yeah, the business does take up
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to.
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  Speaker 1: Put you two in an octagon, not a boxing ring,
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  Speaker 1: because well, TIFFs a boxer and you're a fucking fifteenth
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  Speaker 1: dan black belt in is it taekwondo?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Taekwondo? Yeah, yeah, So I would.
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  Speaker 1: Like to just lock that cage, shut stand, get myself,
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  Speaker 1: I get myself a protein drink, jump in a bean.
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  Speaker 2: Bag, and I don't think what would do any good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, although I have seen some UFC fighters
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  Speaker 3: use the taekwondo very efficiently.
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  Speaker 2: They're kicks and things, but I think a boxer would win.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, once you kick her in the head.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you've got to get that kick and
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  Speaker 3: you've got to have the distance, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's tough.
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  Speaker 1: Well, arguably arguably the biggest UFC personality in the world,
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  Speaker 1: although not a competitor, but strongly tied to the UFC.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Joe Rogan. He's a very famous taekwondo black
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  Speaker 1: belt and that was his That was the roots of
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  Speaker 1: his martial arts, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good foundation. It is actually a really
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  Speaker 3: really good foundation for all other martial arts.
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  Speaker 2: It is. I've loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Just explain to our non martial arts listeners the difference
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  Speaker 1: between say, karate, you know, taekwondo. I mean, well, obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's vastly different to jiu jitsu and all of those things,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of the snapshot of what is. And
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  Speaker 1: of course we've had Lauren Burns on my Yes love laws.
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  Speaker 2: My dad goes straight at.
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  Speaker 3: The Olympics, so really yeah, yeah, she's like part of
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  Speaker 3: the family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love her.
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  Speaker 1: She's a fucking gun and also a brain yak too.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, isn't she? Oh, she's the best annoying.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't an annoying when things drew foul?
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  Speaker 2: Threat? She's amazing at everything.
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  Speaker 1: You go, okay yourself. So what's taekwondo?
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  Speaker 3: So, taekwondo is a Korean martial art, whereas karate is
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  Speaker 3: a Japanese martial art, and it is a dynamic kicking sport.
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  Speaker 3: So if you look at the sport of taekwondo at
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  Speaker 3: the Olympics, it's not really using your hands at all.
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  Speaker 2: You're just kicking.
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  Speaker 3: You can throw a body punch and get a point,
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  Speaker 3: but it is predominantly kicking martial art. Although the sport
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  Speaker 3: of taekwondo is very different to the martial art of taekwondo,
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  Speaker 3: and the martial arts still has the patterns or the
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  Speaker 3: karters they're called in karate, and we do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of self defense, and we do a lot of grappling,
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  Speaker 3: and we do a lot of everything, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: mixed martial arts within it. But the sport of taekwondo
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  Speaker 3: is predominantly kicking, so it's very different to other martial arts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you see yourself? And I mean this is
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  Speaker 1: just a matter of perception, so no right or wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But do you see like you do a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: You're an author, you know, putting aside the mum and
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  Speaker 1: the wife thing, but in terms of just like the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you do so author present a journalist. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you went to UNI bah blah blah. Do you see
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  Speaker 1: yourself or do you feel first and foremost like an
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  Speaker 1: athlete who does other stuff? Do you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: know the other thing that now does taekwondo? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're at your heart an athlete.
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  Speaker 2: I am at my heart.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a good question, and I think you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was quite brainy at school and I love school
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  Speaker 3: and I love studying, and I almost got a perfect
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  Speaker 3: ATR like you're, you know, in year twelve, and because
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  Speaker 3: I got basically ninety nine, I felt compelled to do
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  Speaker 3: something with it. And I was like, well, I could
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  Speaker 3: do law, I could do medicine. And there was a
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  Speaker 3: journalism degree and you need a ninety eight point seventy
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  Speaker 3: five to get into that at Melbourne University, and so
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  Speaker 3: I sort of felt compelled to do that. And my father,
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  Speaker 3: being an Olympic coach who is also a world fighter,
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  Speaker 3: that was his job.
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  Speaker 2: He went around the world fighting.
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  Speaker 3: He has always said, don't be an athlete, don't be
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  Speaker 3: a fighter, don't do that. You get one injury and
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  Speaker 3: it's all over. There's no you know, you're done in
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  Speaker 3: your thirties, blah blah blah. So I was very much
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  Speaker 3: of I've got to get an education, I've got to
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  Speaker 3: go to UNI. I've got to get a job other
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  Speaker 3: than the personal training or the passion stuff that I
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  Speaker 3: was doing at the time. And I was teaching body pump,
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  Speaker 3: body combat, doing boot camps, doing personal training, doing all
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  Speaker 3: of the fitness stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But just felt compelled that I had to go and
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  Speaker 2: do the university. And I did.
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  Speaker 3: I got my degree, and I got diploma in languages
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  Speaker 3: as well. And I did it but only for a
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  Speaker 3: heartbeat because as soon as I saw a little article
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  Speaker 3: in the newspaper to do a fitness test, me and
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  Speaker 3: my boyfriend at the time said we've got to go
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  Speaker 3: do this fitness test with everyone else in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: And I passed the fitness test. He didn't. And that
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  Speaker 2: was actually the audition for gladiators, but I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: it was an audition for TV, and so I just
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  Speaker 2: accidentally got through this grueling fitness test and they said, ah,
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  Speaker 2: hired as Gladiator Angel and I was like, what what
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  Speaker 2: is this? And I just gave up.
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  Speaker 3: I was at the Herald Sun at the time, doing
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  Speaker 3: like an internship and stuff and was very much wanting
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  Speaker 3: to do journalism. But then I just started doing more
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  Speaker 3: fitness stuff and fitness on TV, and then I just
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  Speaker 3: have gravitated towards it. I think my parents being fitness
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  Speaker 3: instructors too. It's just in my blood. I just love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now it's like you have almost this synthesis
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  Speaker 1: of writing and media and creativity and sport, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like you've brought it all together to make your own
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  Speaker 1: bloody casserole. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very much so.
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  Speaker 3: And now that I run the business, which is an app,
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  Speaker 3: my TXO, and it's got you know, your fitness, your workouts,
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  Speaker 3: your mindfulness, your meals, your recipes, all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a home of women's wellness.
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  Speaker 3: It I'm always writing a blog or you know, doing
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  Speaker 3: some kind of media to and using.
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  Speaker 2: These skills always.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, whether it's doing my own podcast or
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  Speaker 3: I'm always writing, I'm always using that doing ad copy
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  Speaker 3: or even you know, social media. It's a lot of writing,
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  Speaker 3: and I really enjoy bringing it all together. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: very happy that I've always followed my passion and that
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  Speaker 3: has always been movement. And you know, I'm forty this year,
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  Speaker 3: and I am having a lot of issues with injuries.
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  Speaker 3: But my husband said to me, it's like you've been
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  Speaker 3: an athlete and you've had a career into your forties.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You know, it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: And now my my athletic pursuits are just being able
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  Speaker 3: to record the many, many fitness videos for the app.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll do like forty a day, and there it's
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  Speaker 3: quite ruling on the body. Forty videos, forty videos a
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  Speaker 3: day over like three or four days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it's like it's a huge load on the body,
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  Speaker 3: big volume. And I used to do it easily in
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  Speaker 3: my twenties, but now I'm carrying up righters in my
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  Speaker 3: knees and I've had rist reconstructions, and I just I
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  Speaker 3: really have to modify, and yeah, I have to change
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  Speaker 3: things around a little bit nowadays because I am noticing
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  Speaker 3: that I am I'm struggling. I'm at that time in
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  Speaker 3: my life where every athlete gets to you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, how long are those videos?
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  Speaker 3: Tips they can be anything from five to twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
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  Speaker 3: So and I do take breaks and think forty a
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  Speaker 3: day yeah yeah, because you know, I'm a business and
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  Speaker 3: we need to be cost effective and we hire the
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  Speaker 3: crew and we need to get it all done in
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  Speaker 3: a matter of one or two days. And I train
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  Speaker 3: for it and I make sure that I'm ready. But
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  Speaker 3: it's huge on the nervous system. It's really huge on
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  Speaker 3: the nervous system. And I do crash afterwards. It's very hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally like prepping for a tournament or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like a two day huge tournament. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, this is my you know event now, and
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  Speaker 3: I do it, you know, every couple of months. And
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  Speaker 3: I really do have to train and make sure that
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing all the right recovery protocols and things like
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  Speaker 3: that to make sure I can get there. But I
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  Speaker 3: have I do carry a lot of injuries from combat days,
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  Speaker 3: gladiators things like that, and the injuries get to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's really really hard. It's really it's getting harder. And
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  Speaker 3: plus I had two babies, which I count as major injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Being pregnant as a fitness person wasn't easy. And then
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  Speaker 3: I put on a lot of weight and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had to get fit and strong again, and I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to get fit and strong again, but it was
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  Speaker 3: it was just two of the biggest things I've ever
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  Speaker 3: happened to my body. You know, my body is my work,
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  Speaker 3: so it was tough.
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  Speaker 1: Give the app a plug. Just while we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: your app and your business, yes, tell everyone what it is.
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  Speaker 3: So it's my TXO and it's available in all app
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  Speaker 3: stores and things at soft launch. At the moment, we're
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  Speaker 3: still tweaking things. But the website is mytxo dot com.
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  Speaker 3: That's where everything's available and you can read about it.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, it's my heart and soul and been doing
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  Speaker 3: it for now eight years in business, which is big
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  Speaker 3: because there's a lot of a lot of competition in
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  Speaker 3: the fitness app space, a lot of free workouts on YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: and if I can hold my own against all of that,
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  Speaker 3: I'm proud of myself.
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  Speaker 1: Well congrats, that's amazing. So my TXO, everyone go check
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  Speaker 1: that out. That'd be awesome. A couple of things, like
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  Speaker 1: things that I'm genuinely just curious about. So according to
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  Speaker 1: my notes, you know, I do extensive research TIF sometimes
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  Speaker 1: one to three minutes today I would have done too well. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: there's a strategy in my lack of strategy, and it
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  Speaker 1: is like I like to have an organic conversation and
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  Speaker 1: find stuff out as we go, rather than I know
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  Speaker 1: all the answers to the questions I'm asking. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: did read that you are a sixth STAN black belt.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe still is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct, And I'm Cookie one official, which means
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  Speaker 3: the World Typeweter Federation. In Korea, there's the Cookie one
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  Speaker 3: World Typewonda Federation, So you can get you could get
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  Speaker 3: any instructor to just grade you and just say I'm
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  Speaker 3: a sixth stand. But I had to send off videos
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  Speaker 3: and go write a thesis and go through all all
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  Speaker 3: of those things and submit it to Korea, and hey,
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  Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of dollars in order to go through
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  Speaker 3: the process to become certified as Cookie one sixth STAN
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  Speaker 3: and the problem and it's really hard because you need
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  Speaker 3: to be certified as a fifth and fourth and third,
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  Speaker 3: second first, and so this is something I've been working
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  Speaker 3: towards since I was, you know, in my early twenties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's taken twenty years and it's one of the highest
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  Speaker 3: ranks you can have as a female martial artist at
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  Speaker 3: my age, so you know, it's it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I now focus more on coaching, not so
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  Speaker 3: much competing, and really really do love the coaching and
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  Speaker 3: the self defense and that side of things, which I
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  Speaker 3: think is so important, especially with everything that's going on
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  Speaker 3: now with violence towards women. I think, you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: taught first aid in school, and we're taught, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sex ed. Why aren't we taught a bit of self
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  Speaker 3: defense that can save your life. I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: So I've been in schools doing a lot of self
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  Speaker 3: defense stuff.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent I agree, and I think it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing that. Tell me a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: navigating media, public attention, fame, all that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that comes with and body dysc morphea, not necessarily you,
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  Speaker 1: but body you know, Like I've always had body issues.
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  Speaker 1: I would say I'm a lot better these days, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, eating issues, fucking eating disorders, disordered, like not
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  Speaker 1: like identifying getting my sense of self through my body
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  Speaker 1: and the fuck even like I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people think it's just a female thing. It's a fucking
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  Speaker 1: everyone's Yes, I've always been insecure about my body. What
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  Speaker 1: about you know, as much or as little as you want,
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  Speaker 1: but what about navigating that mental and emotional mindfield of
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  Speaker 1: having to look a certain way and be a certain way?
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  Speaker 1: How had that gone for you young?
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  Speaker 3: When I was younger, in my twenties and I was
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  Speaker 3: doing the Biggest Loser and it was tally and a
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  Speaker 3: million viewers every night, four nights a week, we were,
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  Speaker 3: you know, always being photographed and recognized, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was hard to I felt pressure back then, but
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  Speaker 3: one way I've always dealt with it, and something that
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  Speaker 3: comes back to my parents.
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  Speaker 2: They put me into taekwondo.
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  Speaker 3: They put me into the dough boc, the white pajamas
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  Speaker 3: that you train in, and that was it. I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: in a ballet litad or anything, and you were covered
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't about what.
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  Speaker 2: Your body looks like. It's about how your body performs.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd always say to myself, Okay, if you're fit,
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  Speaker 3: if you're healthy, your body's going to look and reward
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  Speaker 3: you and be a certain way. So I did focus
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  Speaker 3: on that health and that fitness, you know, throughout those years,
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  Speaker 3: but I felt enormous pressure and it all culminated when
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  Speaker 3: I had my first baby and I had a sick pregnancy.
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  Speaker 3: I was eating a lot of salt and fat because
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  Speaker 3: it was vomiting all the time, and the salt and
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  Speaker 3: fat made me feel better than eating like slimy veggies
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  Speaker 3: and fish and protein, which made me feel like vomiting more.
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  Speaker 3: I put on forty kilows and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: I had the baby and I was a trainer like
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  Speaker 3: I was forty kilos overweight.
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  Speaker 2: I went from a size six to a size twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: And I had this huge thing happened in my brain
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  Speaker 3: where it was like, oh my god, if I don't
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  Speaker 3: look like a fitness professional, if I don't look fit
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  Speaker 3: and look like a trainer, will people trust me?
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  Speaker 2: Will I have members? Will this business go down the gurgler?
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  Speaker 3: Because I have lost my body, which was a billboard
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  Speaker 3: for health and fitness and looking after yourself and all
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  Speaker 3: of this. Fair enough, I'd had a baby and being
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: pregnant and all of that, but I had put on
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: the weight, I had eaten the food. I had not
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: exercised because I'd been sick, and i'd nine months later,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I was in all sorts and so it was a
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: really hard time, and I didn't deal with it very well,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and so my dealing strategy, my coping mechanism, was to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: come out to people publicly and say I put on weight.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I posted a photo of myself in my underwear, overweight
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: with the baby, and was like, Okay, this is a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: postpart and body, right, I'm going to get my fitness
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and strength back. I'm going to take my time. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: at the time, I was already being contacted by magazines
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to do covers and I hadn't even really even gotten
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: out of hospital yet, like I hadn't even you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: finished having the baby, and people were asking me to
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: do the bounce back photos. So I kind of hook
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the photo I'm underwhear and I was like, I'm not
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: bouncing back.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I hate the bounce back culture. I think it's toxic.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to bounce forward and take my time,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to do it properly and build that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: foundation of strength and conditioning that I know you need
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: and pelvic floor and all the important little muscles that
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: get forgotten and neglected, and I'm going to do it right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And it took me two years to lose the weight
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and to get strong and fit again, but I did.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: And I was then contacted by Chris Hemsworth to be
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: his director of training for his app center, and I
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: flew around the world with him with my baby in
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: peak condition, you know, breastfeeding, then training with Chris, then filming,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: and it was just one of the biggest We went
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to London when he was doing Men in Black, we
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: were following him to Byron, all the time, to New York.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: We're going everywhere, and it was a really good experience.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But it just taught me to, hey, you know, don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: get caught up in pressure, but go back to the
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: foundation of who you are, which is, you know, really
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: respecting the process of fitness. And if you are fit,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: then you're going to look good. So you got to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: focus on that fitness. Man, you can't focus on the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: weight loss.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what you said? Some well, all
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: of that was amazing, but I'd never thought about the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: bonus of you know, the white pajamas, the gee whatever,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, that is so true, and it's so
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: good that you kind of covered.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: From neck to so relieving, and it's like, oh yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: There's no objectification because everyone's just wearing the same shit.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And it's always the same as girls.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about function. It's not about look or
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: fashion or bullshit. Yeah that is that is a good.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I reckon.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: If I was a parent, I would that would be
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: one of the things that might tip me to get
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: my kids into a martial art. I think that is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: such a nice idea.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: It's so lovely and it's great. I think it's great
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: for girls and boys. But for me, I felt such freedom.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: And I didn't grow up with social media. Hey, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: was on TV before social media, like TV was a thing,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And then my.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Manager said to me, oh, you know, we've got this person.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: They're interested in an ambassadorship.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: With you, you know, a client.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Oh and they're not interested that you're getting a million
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: viewers every night on the Biggest Loser. They want to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: know your Instagram followers. And I'm like, what is Instagram? Like,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even on Instagram. So I joined late and
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: now I go to the gym and everyone's got a
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: tripod and they're taking selfies of their butts and they're
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: doing all that stuff.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And I just wasn't.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: That wasn't fitness to me growing up, Like it was
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: wasn't about your body, So it's it's all changed so much,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and there's so much social media pressure on young people
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and it breaks my heart and I just that's why
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about martial arts. I really do think
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: it gives you a good foundation of strength and conditioning,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: self defense and also positive body image.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Wow. So what does the pendulum swing from crazy, busy, mayhem,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: focus productivity? What's the opposite look like for you? How
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: do you switch off? How do you how do you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: be the calm and the chaos? What's your go to?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Well? I try and be smart with my work and
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I have like Monday Fridays that are pretty quiet and
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I bulk record a lot of stuff so that I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: can have days off camera and days off my phone,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: days not engaging at all. And that way I'm with
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the kids and I'm present and I chill and I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: like anyone else and love just to watch Netflix and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: relax or I play the piano that I find very
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: relaxing as well. And you know, I have days off
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: training and I just recover or I sauna or you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I do make sure that I have those mental health days,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: which I call the mental health days because I know
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: that if I keep going at a certain pace, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: just burn out. So and I say that to my team,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I say, I'm having a mental health day, Like, don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: contact me.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just with kids and people. They respect that, you know.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Do you ever like one of the things with I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're a type a personality, Yeah, yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you are. Of course you are. Yeah, And I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so is Tiff and maybe so am I to a point.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: But like I put up a post this morning. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: can't remember exactly, but it said something like climbing a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: mountains great as long as you're climbing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: The right mountains or that yes, And I'm like.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And I feel like for me, and it's not necessarily that.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: It's like I was climbing a mountain. I had, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: multiple gyms and all this stuff, and I built all
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: this shit and it definitely wasn't bad. But I think
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: sometimes you get to the top of the mountain and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you're like yeah, yeah, and then a day, lady you're
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like and then a week lady, you're like yeah, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: then lady you're like, what the fuck am I doing
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: on the top of this mountain? Or do you know
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: when you know, it's like you've written books, You've done
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: all this awesome shit, a million viewers, and I biggest loser,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: fucking farc everyone from the outside looking in, it's Disneyland.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. But I know and you know that when
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you're in the middle of what appears to be a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: super success story, it doesn't always feel that way, right,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Like there's the there's the the appearance of success, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: then there's the experience. Yes, about that for you, like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: do you feel like are you ever satisfied? Are you calm?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Are you content? Are you insatiable? Like with all this shit?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: How do you navigate that emotional stuff within within? You know?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Like this, but I reckon, I know, I definitely know
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of wealthy, successful, high profile people who
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: are more anxious, more depressed, and more medicated than that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: vert Ofcomma's typical normal people.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That I know, yeah about a bit. Well, I think
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the experience.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I think in my twenties, when I was on TV
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and I was writing What's of books and I was
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: always looking for the next thing and it was all
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: about profile, I definitely was insatiable and it was always
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the next thing, the next thing, what's next, What's next?
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: And I wasn't really happy when I had kids. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: had to slow down and I had to prioritize, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it just taught me that I couldn't have it all,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: not at one time. And now I only have two
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: things I focus on. It's the business and the kids,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: and that's it. And I don't want to do television
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: ever again. I don't want those intense months and periods
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: of time where you have to give up your life
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and just do that, and you know there's no balance,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, TV is intense. And I'd start at
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: five am and I'd finish sometimes at nine or ten
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: at night, and that would go for seven days and
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: there was pressure of weigh ins and all of that stuff,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, it wasn't normal, and then it finishes and.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh now what like was? I felt lost?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: But I don't feel that now because I think with
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: social media, with the way my business runs, it's all
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: about connection to women.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And I get contacted.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: All day, DMS, emails for our help desk, Facebook community group.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: People are always chatting to me, and I feel very
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: much part of this safe space and this nice little
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: tribe and cult where we can, and you know, just
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: try and be better together and feel well and do
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: things that make us feel good. And I feel like
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I'm taking them along the ride with me through bad
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: days and good days. And as long as I keep
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: honest with the conversation and you know, really honest and
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I am about my bad days, then it kind of
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it's healthier for me than trying to be perfect and
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you know, a certain body fat percentage, and you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: on tally, I try and really keep it real. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: that's been saving grace these past few years for me,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: because if it's just too hard to try and keep
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: your Instagram curated and perfect and you know, and have
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that be the perception for people, I like to try
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: and keep it more real and that I'm just juggling
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: everything as a mum like anyone else, and that I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: just did some TV back in the day. My husband
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: still does television, he does radio. He's very comfortable in
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: that space.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: He loves it. But I couldn't think of anything worse.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Let him do it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big he's a big funny bastard. Yes,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: if you listen to this, you're a big funny bastard.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I have a man crush on you. But anyway, you
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: probably have a lot of those. You know. It's interesting
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Tiff and Tiff once again, everyone, it's a two third
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: tip ratio. Today. I feel very fucking I feel like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a minority on my own show because I am Tiff Cook.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Feel free to jump in. I was chatting yesterday. It's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not up. By the time this goes up, it might
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: be up. With Josh Lenardowitz, the bodybuilder. You know him big?
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I will, okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So Big Josh is Big. Josh is arguably Australia's best
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: ever bodybuilder. One.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: He's really handsome, yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Real good looking.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah I do you know him? Yeah?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so not me? Yeah. So he competed twice in
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the Mister Olympia all this stuff, and anyway, he's been
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: through some shit lately and dealing with a couple of
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: health issues here this is documented. He had a like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a tumor inside his skull, a bone tumor, so not
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a brain tumor, but so it was benign, but it
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: was anyway, there was a few. Anyway, he's been battling
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: some shit. But we were talking about which is why
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I was in to talk to Tiff Cook at the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: start about just having bad days, and we were chatting
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't having a great day, and we had
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: this podcast booked, and I said, good, let's have a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: chat on a day that's not great, because guess what,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: lots of people have lots of shit days, and we
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: don't all need to be love and light and unicorns
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and pumping our fists and winning every day.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: It's like, the practical reality is that life service. Life's
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a bitch and sometimes like beautiful and amazing, and you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: we're just all trying to figure shit out. But something
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: that you talking about being on Gladiators and we were
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: talking about the idea of standing on a stage tip,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: especially in twenty twenty four, when the overriding messages, hey,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: it doesn't.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Matter what you look like. Yes, then you go stand
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: on a bodybuilding stage and that's all that matters.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Are you being judged? Yeah, like you're.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Literally being judged, not metaphorically. Yes, yes, And I guess
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, did you. I'm assuming and my assumption
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I'm assuming that as Angel the Gladiator,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: you needed to look a certain way or you would
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: get the ass.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It was a real problem because I was very small
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and the smallest gladiating history in the world, according to
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: all the the big fans that have all the gladiators
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: statistics and things. I'm only one hundred and sixty four
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: centimeters five foot four and I was under fifty five
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: kilos so light. I couldn't even see over the gauntlet
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: like and I couldn't even get up the pyramid because.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I was so short.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: So they put me in the on the aerial games
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: up in the sky. I did hang tough and pendulum
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: and all the aerial games, and it was very good
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: at that because I could break fall with all my
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: martial arts experience, I could look after the competitors and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: they never got hurt.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And I love the aerial games.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: But they said, okay, if you can't when we don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: have time to bulk you up, because I wasn't a
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: bulky big person, but.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: They wanted to lean me up.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: So I had to lose more weight in order to
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: have more definition in order to look bigger on camera,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: because camera does make you look a bit bigger, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that to me was a bit hard. So I was
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: on a diet and they Channel seven provided the food.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It was like just fish and vegge and very dangerous.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: And I remember getting into that disordered eating kind of
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: mentality where I was only eating what Channel seven gave me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I was super scared to eat anything outside of the
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: little plastic containers they gave gave me. I was very underweight,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I think, especially for a contact sport like it's contact.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I was getting hurt and breaking ribs and stuff like
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: that easily when usually with a bit more padding in
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: taekwondo and stuff.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I never experienced that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So it was very tough, and I just didn't have
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the time to build the muscle, you know, it takes
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And this was TV.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Everything has to happen yesterday, and so I just went
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: on this diet and I looked shredded. I had abs
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: on abs and veins in abs, and like I did
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: get shredded. But yeah, I was just too light for it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Crazy times.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because like, as an athlete, it is
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: all about performance and function. Yes, like what you look
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like is irrelevant. I mean, you're probably going to look
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: pretty good if you're an athlete anyway, but that's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the point. Like it's all about performance. It's about functional physiology.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's about can you do what you need? It's about strength, power, speed, agility,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: coordination for you skill of course, but then they're not
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: worried about that, they're worried about what you look like. Yeah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it's so fucking ridiculous.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: And we weren't playing on the games and we didn't
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have access to them, so we had to train. I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: trained on monkey bars for Hang Tough because I thought, well,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: that makes sense. I'll get my hang strength and like
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: my grip's strength going.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And I was just trying to work it out myself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: And then on the day, literally audience TV cameras rolling,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: first time trying the games myself.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Oh it was a mental time. It was really mental.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: And I was young and I was, you know, in
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: my early twenties and impressionable and really struggled coming off gladiators,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: thinking I had to maintain that look, you know, I
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: was a gladiator, should look like a gladiator. When I
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: went back to being a healthy wait healthy for running
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and puck wandoing and doing all the things that I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: loved doing strength training, and yeah I did, I struggled
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: with that kind of body image stuff, you know, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: it wasn't until like I met my husband, and you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I kind of was like snap out of it, like
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: that's not you weren't actually performing and at your peak
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: of fitness and strength back then, you were weak, you know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: because you were under eating. You know, so you got
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: to have a stern word with yourself. Sometimes it's very.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Hard, just out of interest.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh six', Five, yeah we look ridiculous. Together that's.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: WELL i hope you got some serious bug and high.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Heels, yeah, YEAH i.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Know do you guys ever work out? Together do you train?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Together, no we have a rule we're not allowed to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i end up trying to coach him or saying
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: he can do one more, set or like you can
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: live heavier than, that or giving him a technique tip
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: or something like that and he corracs. It but he's very.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Good he actually has his personal training. Qualification he did
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: that early. On he's very proficient in the. Gym he
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: will take my. Advice but we don't train. Together we
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: just get a little, BIT i get under his. SKIN
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: i just like try and make him do something better
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: or showing him something, new or he just doesn't want
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: to hear. It, so you, know we have separate gym
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: memberships at different.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Gyms oh, really that's. Hilarious that is. Hilarious, yeah it's that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Hardcore do you have a parenting style In Inverted commas
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that you could describe as a? Freestyle is it? Strategic
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is it? Organic do? You is it something you? Developed
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like do you attention to any of the experts in Inverted?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: COMMAS i do pay attention TO i Like Maggie Denton Connected,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: parenting AND i do pay attention AND i feel LIKE
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: i need to.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: LEARN i really. Do it's something that's.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: DEVELOPING i don't prescribe to a type of, parenting ALTHOUGH
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: i do like, routine AND i think routine gives my children.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Safety they know what's coming, next and like they have
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a time that they go and have a, nap and
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: they have a dinner time and a bath time those
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: kind of simple things and a Bedtime and it's not
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: LIKE i just let them be up all night and
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: they'll tell me when they're tired and go to.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: BED i do have a routine with, them BUT i don't.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: KNOW i am just. LEARNING i mean my youngest is,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: One arnold is, six.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: AND i feel Like i'm failing on a daily basis with.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Them our family pet died our dog.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yesterday talk about bad, Days, yeah very. Bad he had terminal.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Cancer we had to put him, down so very. Tough
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: but that's WHERE i was challenged because the kids were
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: so upset AND i had to deal with that and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: explain about let you going over the rainbow bridge to
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: pet paradise and where he was going to be happy
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and maybe come. Back you, know he was ready as
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: another puppy or.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Something and it was just.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: All really hard, thinking oh, gosh are we? Religious DO
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: i bring in? Religion or DO i is this? Heaven
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: or like what DO? I it was really hard in
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: managing trying to Coregulate arnold's, emotions and there was heavy
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: sadness and heavy TOPICS i just and also the thing
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: of DO i let him say goodbye to the dog
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: before we put him? Down or do we put him
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: down and then say the dog has gone over the rainbow?
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Bridge do you know WHAT i? Mean, like all those
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: decisions are really.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: HARD i did Let arnold have make the choice would
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you like to say goodbye To?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Fletcher and he.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Did he went and gave him a pat and a
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: kiss and a, cuddle and they had to, play AND
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: i think that was healthy For.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Arnold BUT i don't. KNOW i don't know If i'm
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: stuffing him up every, DAY i honestly. Don't it's the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: hardest gig in the.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: World, YEAH i think you're doing a brilliant.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Job oh thank.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: You if that just hit, you didn't it?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: TYPICAL i, mean, yeah, yes, yeah jes a.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Dog we're kind of dogaholics.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Here, yes, okay you understand BECAUSE i never. Know it's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Such i've felt, flat all, weak like like you, tif,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: like just really not.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: PERFORMING i had to cancel a few THINGS i HAD
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: i have just it really knocked.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Me could not stop.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Crying terrible when you have to make the decision whether
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: they live or. Die as, well and he was very
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: ill and we had amputated his, leg so he was
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: on three legs to try and get the tumor off
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and save. Him but he and we went through the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: trauma of amputating his leg and then he. Died, anyway
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: it's really. Sad it's. Horrible you just, think DID i
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: make the right? Decision and every days like, THAT i
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: think with, kids you just THINK i DID I DID
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: i fuck that? Up you, know, Honestly and there's my
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: f word for the. Day DID i fuck that? Up
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: because honestly it. IS i go to bed most nights thinking,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: GEEZ i did not nail today as a. Parent and
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: it's the biggest LOAD i, think mental.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Load how long ago Tiff cook was did coach pass?
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Away it's two years?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Now? Wow, yeah because that feels LIKE i don't, know four.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: MONTHS i know it's. Not it feels like four months.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Ago it feels really. Recent it's.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah it doesn't get, easy does? It and, no
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: it hangs around like, yeah Because arnold was asking me
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: today on the way to, school when WILL i feel?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Better AND i, thought, wow not for a. While and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: it's a. Process there's a process to.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Grief and you, know we're in the crying, tiery can't talk.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Stage you.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Know, WELL i think like nobody's really trained for, parenthood are.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: They it's like when you do anything for the first,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: time whether it's go on, gladiators start a, business write a,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: book become a, parent go do a, degree like you
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: just you. Know of course people can advise, you but
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you can only really really learn experientially in the middle of. It, like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: yes you're going to funk some things, Up you're going
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to get some things. Right you, know you're going to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: have a slightly different approach with number two than you
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: did with.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Numbers, yes you, know it's really. Hard AND i couldn't
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: believe THAT i had a. Baby and then they said
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: at the, hospital, okay off you go. HOME i was,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: like are we going to do a? Class are we
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: going to have like give me? Notes BECAUSE i love,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: NOTES i love, Studying, like give me some. NOTES i
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: don't know what to do with this. Baby and then you,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: know we're. Struggling how do you get a newborn to?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Sleep that was that really did me. In it just
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: that was such a hard, time you, know and they
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: do eventually, sleep but learning beating and breastfeeding and all
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: of that, stuff like it was it was.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Pretty, Hardcore, like, yeah really need a manual for a.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Baby, okay So i'm going to ask you a few philosophical. Questions,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: okay we'll see where we. Go so you are forty
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: On july the, eleventh just off the top of my.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Head oh, no not really off the top of my.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Head i've got. Notes so one day you're going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: be forty. Five if everything goes great On PLANET, tif
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: what will life look like when you're forty, Five what
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: do you Think if everything goes according to plan and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you're winning, life what will you be doing when you're forty?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Five do you.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Think forty, FIVE i would love to still be doing the.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Business but business is, hard And i've had a few
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: components of the business not, work and LIKE i had
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: an active wear, line for, example THAT i just could
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: not keep going with and it pulled my focus from
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the fitness. Stuff and you, Know i've had a few
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: hard times with. Business it would be really nice if
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: at forty FIVE i could be earning a living for
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: my business and be really happy just doing. That and
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: my goal is to earn enough to relieve the pressure
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: of my, husband who has. That you, know he's very
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: grateful for HIS tv and radio, work but it is
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: contract to contract, work and he can have everything this
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: year and on the first Of january next year have. Nothing,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: yeah and then, financially what do you?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Do what do you?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Do SO i would love to, say, hey, baby it's,
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: okay don't, Stress i've got.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: This you.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: KNOW i would love for the business to prosper enough
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: For ed to just chill and do his passion.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Projects you, know.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: At the moment it's not at that, level but that's
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: WHAT i would love in the next five.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Years, yeah good for.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You it's a, grind that's for.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Sure it's a, grind all.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Right next, question what is something, significant Tiv hall that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you have changed your mind. On it could be in
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the last six months or in the last ten, years
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: or a belief that you have that got challenged and
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: now you have a new. Belief there's something that did
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a one at.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: ON i came from taekwondo and it was all about,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: speed AND i always did like lightweights AND i never
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: touched the heavy.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Weights and THEN.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I think that in my TWENTIES i was a cardio
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: bunny as, well AND i have just changed my attitude
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: on the power of strength. Training odd, yeah and how
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: transformative it is for your, hormones for your, metabolism for your,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: body for your. Mind it's something that you don't have
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: to rely on your. Mood like, cardio you, GO i feel,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Great i'm going to go for a, run but when
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you feel, flat you don't really feel like doing, cardio
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: and then you blow off. Cardio BUT i feel with weight,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: training you can do it no matter how you. FEEL
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: i JUST i ALWAYS i never never really believed in
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: the strength training enough to do, it but NOW i
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: since having, injuries it is the most important thing That i'm,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Doing and especially Because i'm going to hit perimenopause and
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: move into menopause territory over the next ten to fifteen,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Years i'm trying to train for that and build strong
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: muscles that are you, know fat, factories and you, know
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: just really work hard for my body and look after.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It especially Because i've got arthritis in my. Knees you,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Know i'm really trying to build muscles around my knees
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: to hold them.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Up VM o fastest, absolutely so you know, WHAT i
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: love fat fat. Factories like people don't understand having more
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: muscle lean in, listeners having more muscle helps you burn
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: more fat at rest because muscles what we call metabolically,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: active which helps you stay. Lean so, one you're improving
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: bone density and cognitive function and functional strength and movement and,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: capability but also lifting weights which doesn't seem like but
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it actually helps you stay, lean which is fucking. Amazing
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: i'm super proud of you for lifting heavy. Shit well.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Done Yeah i'm. TRYING i don't live very, heavy BUT i.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Try i'm sure you. Do, Okay i'll tell you who's pretty.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Strong the other, tip she's a fucking. Unit, yeah she
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: also girl girl. Power she got me. Covered but that's not.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Hard i'm a. Hundred so here's my next somewhat philosophical.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Question have you Had i'm sure you have or maybe you,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: haven't but in your life like a almost like an epiphany,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: MOMENT i Reckon i've had in my life for maybe
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: like moments WHERE i went oh, fuck like like somebody
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: pulled back a curtain AND i just had this revelation
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: or this recognition of something THAT i needed to know
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: or be made aware of or. Change have you had
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: any epiphany moments over your almost forty? Years?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah so in two thousand and nineteen to twenty,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: twenty THROUGH covid and all, THAT i got burnt. Out
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: BUT i was clinically diagnosed with chronic fatigue, syndrome which
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: felt to me like a life sentence because they're like
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: there's no, cure like just that's it's the end of.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You And i'm, like hang on a.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: MINUTE i do fitness stuff LIKE i need to move an,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: exercise and they, said, no, no, no that's the worst thing
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: you can do for your. Condition and SO i came
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: out publicly and, Said i've got this chronic fatigue.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: THING i can't.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Work the business is going down the, toilet AND i
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: need to. RECOVER i don't know How i'm going to do,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: it AND i don't know When i'll be, back But
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: i'm going to go do.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It and it was a big moment in my life
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: WHERE i had to.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: STOP i was doing too much AND i had to
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: really look at. RECOVERY i had to really look at
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: my mental. HEALTH i had to really look at the
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: WAY i was doing, stuff and it was pulling back
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: to bare necessity and basics and the basic.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Stuff of drinking, water.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Sunlight LIKE i was so, FATIGUED i couldn't even walk
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: to my, mailbox you, Know AND i would just stand
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: with my feet in, grass trying to just ground myself
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: and get some. Sunlight AND i had a trainer who
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: would physically move my body into a stretch, position AND
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: i remember being moved into like this thoracic kind of
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: stretch and just be sitting there in the, sunshine, going
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: oh my, god my life is. Over and they test
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: you for depression and your heart and all this, stuff
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: and nothing came. Up it was just my nervous system had.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Gone i've had. Enough AND i learned so much about
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: nervous system back, then AND i think that that is.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Everything. NOW i don't.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: TRAIN i don't train my nervous system, anymore you, know
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: with sprint training and cardio and high intensity and big
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: volume days and things like, that THAT i don't go back
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: to back with filming days and things like. That i've
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: put rest days in between now AND i make sure
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: that my sympathetic nervous system is stimulated all the, time
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i make sure that the vegas nerve is.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Stimulated AND i JUST i just really am looking after
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: myself because you can't pall from an empty. Cup BUT
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: i was pouring from an empty cup for a long.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Time and that's not health and, fitness and that's not being,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: healthy and that's not WHAT i need to help other people.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Do so it was a huge moment and it took. Me,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: WELL i Think i'm still, recovering to be, HONEST i
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: still can't do the exercise and train at the capacity
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: THAT i did BEFORE i had that nervous system.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: BREAKDOWN i, Reckon i'll call. IT i still.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: CAN'T i have to have rest, DAYS i have to
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: go to bed. EARLY i still have to do things
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: That i've never recovered from.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It BUT i am still very functional.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Now but it was definitely a moment where it was,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: like if you keep, going you seriously are not going
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: to ever be able to walk like it. Was it
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: was so, bad it was really really.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Bad that's so. Interesting, LOOK i think for, PEOPLE i
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: think probably all three of us on this particular, episode you,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: know there's have a propensity to overdo. Shit there's fucking,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: oh there's a, revelation you, know like there's a fine
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: line between discipline and. Obsession, yes you, know discipline is in,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: control obsession is out of. Control and you, know you,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: know WHEN i was a, KID i was you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: whatever fat fourteen year, old all that. Bullshit BUT i
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: ended up starting to, train and WHEN i, trained all
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: of a, sudden life got amazingly, better you, know like, socially, emotionally, mentally.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Physically and then you get all this approval and all
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this recognition and all this acceptance because you're not the
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: fat kid. Anymore you're the athlete, now and all of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: this great shit. Happens and then so that's like a.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Drug SO i, went, well IF x is, good then
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: two x's fucking twice as, good and FIVE x must be.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Incredible So i'm doing FIVE X and then you, know
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: there's no logic in, that but there's kind of just
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: this emotional kind of, story and, yeah i'd. SAME i
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: just got to the point WHEN i opened my FIRST
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: pt center, tip which was in nineteen ninety when you were.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Six that's annoying, Anyway when WHEN i opened my first,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: one there was none, right there was none In, australia
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: AND i had no. Staff it was just. Me SO
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: i had this fifteen hundred hundred and fifty fifteen hundred
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: foot square. SPACE i spent all the money in the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: world THAT i, had all of the money in the.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: WORLD i sold everything THAT i could SELL i, got
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: took all the money out of my bank account except
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: two hundred, dollars AND i basically created a small commercial,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: gym but it was only for me and my client,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: anyway the first week THAT i, opened BECAUSE i already
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: had a, business BUT i was based IN i was
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: based in public gyms training my. Clients but the first
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: WEEK i, OPENED i did over sixty hours OF. Pt
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: but then on top of, that you, Know i'm cleaning the.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Gym i'm changing your running a. Business i'm trying to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: fucking do. ADMIN i don't know what admin. Is i'm
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: trying to you. Know and then, anyway SO i, was you,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: know within the first four, WEEKS i was completely fucked
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was working eighty nine hours a week and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: getting getting to the gym at four am and, cleaning
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and AND i JUST i got to this point WHERE
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: i Thought i'm going to have a, breakdown and my
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: training was going, backwards AND i, thought all, Right i'm
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: going to SO i in a rare moment of clarity and,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: LOGIC i, said, Right i'm going to Train, Monday, Wednesday
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: friday for three. Months So i'm going to go from
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: seven days to three. Days and in my, Mind i'm,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: LIKE i know That i'll go, backwards BUT i won't
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: go too far. Backwards and that will that Means i'll
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: be you, KNOW i won't be, overtrained i won't be under,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: recovered i won't be so. Exhausted i'm just going to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: focus on my business and my, clients building, knowledge, skills
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: all that, shit and just do three workouts a week
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and whatever will happen will. Happen fuck, It i'll. Cope,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: yeah and of course you know What i'm going to.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Say and over three, MONTHS i got bigger and stronger
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like a motherfucker BECAUSE i was having four days a
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: week of recovery and my body loved it BECAUSE i
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: had zero. DAYS i went from no recovery to all
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the recovery and even though mentally and EMOTIONALLY i hated,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: it you. Know so there is that REAL i think
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: for people especially who are the type one, perfectionist you,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: know like To that's WHY i reckon it is good
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to have a trainer or a coach or a mentor
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that that isn't, you because it's hard for you to
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: be objective about you because you're tiff you. Know so
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it's that subjected, thing all. Right so one more. Question
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: it's a two part question to. Finish so one is
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: what is your? Superpower don't overthink? It first thing that
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: comes to? Mind what is your? Superpower and PART b
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: is what is something that you need to get better?
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: At superpower IS i THINK i really am able to
• 52:30
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  Speaker 3: ONE i think SOMETHING i need to get better. AT
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  Speaker 3: to my, body, because like you, SAID i just will
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  Speaker 3: Know I'm I'M i JUST i just have to listen
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  Speaker 1: ENEMY i, think, WELL i hope you listen to that
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  Speaker 1: smarter than. Me Tiffany Elizabeth. Hall tell people how they
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  Speaker 3: That, yeah, well connect with me On instagram at Tiff
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  Speaker 2: Me you'll find a. Way just.
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  Speaker 3: There i'm Everywhere, Facebook twitter and, anything But i'm predominantly On.
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  Speaker 3: Instagram so JUST dm me And i'd love to hear
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  Speaker 3: your questions or, yeah just have a.
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  Speaker 1: Chat thank you so. MUCH i really appreciate. YOU i
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  Speaker 1: quite a chunk of time out of your day And i'm.
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  Speaker 2: Very i've enjoyed. It thank you so much for having
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