Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 393 - The Bay (2012)
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- 1:30Speaker 4: Welcome back to Friday Mare's podcast. I'm your host Austin
- 1:32Speaker 4: Proctor and joining me today four episode three ninety three
- 1:36Speaker 4: is my good friend Corey Johnson.
- 1:39Speaker 5: Hey everybody, it was chicken shit all along. Who would
- 1:45Speaker 5: have thought?
- 1:46Speaker 4: Today? On another installment of Animalogous Attack, we're discussing our
- 1:50Speaker 4: deep cut pick the Bay from twenty twelve, which is
- 1:52Speaker 4: essentially the bastard child of Quarantine and Jaws. Let's see
- 1:57Speaker 4: who this lands the Nightmare Index. All right, Corey, what
- 2:05Speaker 4: have you been watching? Did you watch Twin Peaks with
- 2:08Speaker 4: Jessica or did she do that solo?
- 2:12Speaker 5: So I had seen it previously before Jessica okay, and
- 2:19Speaker 5: then probably in our our first year together she had
- 2:24Speaker 5: watched it because I was I was talking so oh.
- 2:28Speaker 5: It was when Kyle and I were talking about him
- 2:30Speaker 5: having never seen Maholland Drive, and I was like, bro,
- 2:33Speaker 5: what do you mean you've never seen Mahallan Drive? And
- 2:35Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, you know, I haven't really seen much
- 2:37Speaker 5: of David Lynch's stuff. And I'm like, really, you've never
- 2:40Speaker 5: seen Twin Peaks. And then it spun from there and
- 2:43Speaker 5: just like, you know, I haven't watched that in a while.
- 2:46Speaker 5: And then I think either beginning of this year or
- 2:50Speaker 5: end of last year, she started watching it again. And
- 2:53Speaker 5: since she works from home, like I'm just there for
- 2:57Speaker 5: the first couple hours of her work day, so like
- 3:00Speaker 5: she'll come upstairs and on the good TV. We'll just
- 3:04Speaker 5: put put on something until I go to work, and
- 3:06Speaker 5: she'll go back down and work in her office. So
- 3:09Speaker 5: I I got I got a good chunk of watching it,
- 3:13Speaker 5: and for a lot of it, you can just kind
- 3:16Speaker 5: of clue in and out and it's all relatively the same.
- 3:19Speaker 5: But I've seen I've seen Twin Peaks a few times.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Okay, so then what have you been watching recently? Anything good? Anything?
- 3:29Speaker 5: So just continuing cranking out on Silo because season three
- 3:35Speaker 5: is still airing. They're in production of season four. Ted Lasso,
- 3:42Speaker 5: didn't they just first episode just came out. Yeah, it
- 3:45Speaker 5: was real interesting. Let me go through my diary real quick,
- 3:52Speaker 5: because I know for sure I've seen some things. I
- 3:55Speaker 5: watched Iron Lung, so that was that was fun. It
- 4:00Speaker 5: was It was a little too long, definitely a little
- 4:04Speaker 5: too long, but I liked what they did with it.
- 4:07Speaker 5: I thought it was a crazy idea for a bottle movie, right,
- 4:14Speaker 5: very crazy that some fucking guy on YouTube was able
- 4:21Speaker 5: to not only gather the people to write a cohesive
- 4:26Speaker 5: enough script to make a two hour movie out of
- 4:31Speaker 5: a indie video game, but also that he was able
- 4:36Speaker 5: to act better than most of the people coming out
- 4:39Speaker 5: of Hollywood right now, it's it's kind of an insult
- 4:45Speaker 5: to the industry because now we're like, all right, don't
- 4:50Speaker 5: get wrong I love Robert Pattinson, but he's in what
- 4:52Speaker 5: like six movies this year. How do we have five
- 4:55Speaker 5: people that are acting in Hollywood and you've got all
- 4:59Speaker 5: these people on yout Tube that could just be crushing
- 5:02Speaker 5: shit with brand new ideas.
- 5:04Speaker 4: I mean, even Obsession Cooper Tomlinson. I know they've done
- 5:08Speaker 4: a lot of content before and stuff like that, but
- 5:11Speaker 4: so is market Plier. Cooper Tomlinson is a fantastic actor,
- 5:15Speaker 4: and even so was Curry Barker. Like Curry Barker is
- 5:17Speaker 4: also excellent as well, and you're of dead on right.
- 5:21Speaker 4: I mean, Mark Player was legitimately fantastic in Iron Lung.
- 5:26Speaker 5: I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I texted you at some
- 5:28Speaker 5: point like, why can we not get market Plier acting
- 5:31Speaker 5: in other movies? He was really good. He was very
- 5:36Speaker 5: and to be essentially the only person acting on screen
- 5:41Speaker 5: outside of maybe two minutes of when he resurfaces for
- 5:46Speaker 5: the first time. And I watched, so I gave Iron
- 5:51Speaker 5: Long a three out of five. The other reason it
- 5:53Speaker 5: didn't score any higher was because again it for absolutely
- 5:57Speaker 5: no reason did it need to be two hours two hours?
- 6:00Speaker 1: Was?
- 6:01Speaker 5: It was like two hours and five minutes.
- 6:02Speaker 4: I agree, But like I was never bored. I was surprised.
- 6:06Speaker 5: No, I was never bored at all. Like I totally
- 6:10Speaker 5: get all right, you built the NACMO, so you're gonna
- 6:13Speaker 5: get all your time out of the NACMO to make
- 6:16Speaker 5: this movie happen. But at the same time, like cut
- 6:20Speaker 5: out like two of the sub shots, like just these long, lingering,
- 6:25Speaker 5: like quote unquote hallway shots, but it's just like the
- 6:30Speaker 5: back of Mark's head or he's just wandering around in
- 6:35Speaker 5: this ten foot little hallway. But other than that, I mean,
- 6:40Speaker 5: good movie. Go see it. It's it's real good. It's
- 6:43Speaker 5: four ninety nine on YouTube, and I'm pretty sure that
- 6:47Speaker 5: that rental just goes straight to Mark, so I'll watch it.
- 6:51Speaker 5: I know he he gave all his cast in crew
- 6:57Speaker 5: people fucking bonuses when it did so well, so yeah,
- 7:00Speaker 5: go go fucking support this guy. And then I have
- 7:04Speaker 5: also seen The Long Walk, which I know I'm the
- 7:07Speaker 5: latest fuck getting too. But oh man, that was a
- 7:11Speaker 5: good fucking movie. Like I went into it thinking, all right,
- 7:15Speaker 5: it's it's gonna be a Stephen King adaptation like it
- 7:19Speaker 5: at Max caps out at like a three point five, right,
- 7:24Speaker 5: like it can't it can't be that great. And in
- 7:27Speaker 5: the first, you know, twenty twenty five minutes, I'm like,
- 7:31Speaker 5: all right, my my theory is being proven. It's it's
- 7:34Speaker 5: just a it's just a really alright Stephen King King adaptation. Yeah,
- 7:39Speaker 5: and then fucking Cooper Hoffman and Michael Johnson just steal
- 7:46Speaker 5: my fucking heart and become my best friends. Like I
- 7:53Speaker 5: it is, it is almost never where I go. I
- 7:57Speaker 5: love every sing character of this movie. I love the villains,
- 8:03Speaker 5: I love the antagonists. I love the main characters. I
- 8:08Speaker 5: love the side characters. Every single person is equally as
- 8:14Speaker 5: important as everyone else in this movie. And I was
- 8:18Speaker 5: blown away. Now. It didn't get a five out of
- 8:22Speaker 5: five because there were some things where I was like,
- 8:24Speaker 5: all right, you could have done this slightly different, or
- 8:27Speaker 5: you could have been a little less heavy handed on this, right,
- 8:31Speaker 5: But I still gave it. I still gave it a
- 8:33Speaker 5: four out of five because it was It was a
- 8:36Speaker 5: wonderfully told story. I was also wildly distracted at how
- 8:43Speaker 5: much uh Cooper Hoffman looks and sounds and has the
- 8:49Speaker 5: mannerisms of his deceased father. And I'm like, all right, yeah,
- 8:54Speaker 5: you you are not even trying to be a different person.
- 8:56Speaker 5: You are just riding that Philip Seymour train and it's
- 9:03Speaker 5: gonna work out for him amazingly.
- 9:06Speaker 4: Yeah. Mark Hamill as the I didn't recognize that. I
- 9:10Speaker 4: didn't even recognize him at first. As the guy on
- 9:13Speaker 4: the back of the jeep yelling or yelling at everybody.
- 9:16Speaker 4: I was like, is that yes? Yeah?
- 9:18Speaker 5: Him as the major blew me away? Yeah, because you
- 9:22Speaker 5: reveal his face and your leg and he only ever
- 9:24Speaker 5: has those Aviator sunglasses on. Yeah, And I'm like, Wow,
- 9:28Speaker 5: I don't know who this guy is, but he's fucking menacing.
- 9:32Speaker 5: This is so weird. And then as it keeps going,
- 9:34Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I kind of recognize this actor's
- 9:37Speaker 5: voice and he kind of looks like Michael Ironside, but
- 9:42Speaker 5: I know it's not. I'm just I'm just gonna let
- 9:45Speaker 5: like I was. I was so locked in on this
- 9:48Speaker 5: movie that I was like, I'm not even gonna bother
- 9:52Speaker 5: looking it up because it who he is as an
- 9:55Speaker 5: actor doesn't really matter as much to his uh performance
- 10:00Speaker 5: of what's going on. And then at one point he's
- 10:03Speaker 5: yelling as the truck's going by, and he's he hits
- 10:07Speaker 5: a certain note and I'm like, that's the Batman's joker.
- 10:10Speaker 5: For the animated series. What is going on? Is that
- 10:13Speaker 5: fucking Mark Hamill? And then I paused the movie and
- 10:17Speaker 5: I pulled it up and I was like, that's about
- 10:18Speaker 5: the fucking Mark Hamill. Oh my god, yep, yeap.
- 10:22Speaker 4: It took me a while to realize that as well.
- 10:24Speaker 4: But well, so what did you end up giving that one?
- 10:27Speaker 5: I gave it a four out of five.
- 10:28Speaker 4: I think that's what I gave it to is silid
- 10:31Speaker 4: fucking movie for literally walking down a road for ninety
- 10:35Speaker 4: percent of I mean all of the movie. I mean
- 10:38Speaker 4: the ending they're in a town, but you know whatever.
- 10:41Speaker 5: But yeah, my thing about it, And after doing some research,
- 10:47Speaker 5: I realized they stayed really close to the book in
- 10:52Speaker 5: this aspect. You know me, if you're gonna tell me
- 10:56Speaker 5: that we're doing something because of something else, you have
- 10:59Speaker 5: to explain the something else. You can't just be like, oh,
- 11:03Speaker 5: the war and then move the fuck on, like dog,
- 11:07Speaker 5: what what? And then doing research it's like, oh, it
- 11:10Speaker 5: was analogous for the Vietnam War and blah blah blah,
- 11:14Speaker 5: and you know that because that's when Stephen King was
- 11:16Speaker 5: writing it. And I was like, all right, cool, but like,
- 11:19Speaker 5: tell us, like even if it's not in the book.
- 11:22Speaker 4: Embellish something yet.
- 11:25Speaker 5: Like otherwise it's just like, oh, yeah, every boy in
- 11:28Speaker 5: the country signs up when they turn eighteen, so it's like, oh,
- 11:31Speaker 5: it's analogous to the Draft, but it's not because you
- 11:35Speaker 5: do actually have the choice. I don't know it was.
- 11:39Speaker 5: There were there were a few things in it that
- 11:41Speaker 5: really really bothered me, but they got outweighed by the
- 11:46Speaker 5: casting crew just fucking ripping. Like even even the uh
- 11:53Speaker 5: what's his face? Uh, the little Asian guy Hank's name Hank. Yeah,
- 11:59Speaker 5: even him like human and his fucking naked ladies thing.
- 12:02Speaker 5: I was like, this is fucking hilarious. This is the
- 12:05Speaker 5: best side character.
- 12:08Speaker 4: Let me see Yeah, Hank Hank Olsen. Yeah. And then
- 12:11Speaker 4: David Johnson. I'm so excited because.
- 12:14Speaker 5: David Johnson, not Michael Johnson.
- 12:16Speaker 4: I thought you said David. Did you say I thought
- 12:18Speaker 4: you said David.
- 12:19Speaker 5: I said Michael. I said Michael.
- 12:20Speaker 4: Well, he's gonna be in Black Panther three as to Challa,
- 12:25Speaker 4: which is fucking awesome. So I love that for him
- 12:28Speaker 4: because he was in Romulus and then The Long Walk.
- 12:31Speaker 5: And they should have with when when when it's when
- 12:35Speaker 5: it's u when it's a person like Chadwick Boseman, And
- 12:38Speaker 5: how amazing of like a person an actor that he was.
- 12:44Speaker 5: Challa is now dead, bringing a new character, retcon some
- 12:47Speaker 5: ship you don't get to have, you don't get to play.
- 12:50Speaker 5: To Challa, Well, that that character is now dead.
- 12:55Speaker 4: Well he's just black panther. I don't think he's taken.
- 12:57Speaker 4: I don't think he's I don't think he's taking over
- 12:59Speaker 4: as fuck up.
- 13:01Speaker 5: Yeah, because yeah, because I was about to say, if
- 13:03Speaker 5: they if they retcon him into a different actor. No,
- 13:06Speaker 5: I'm already I'm already pretty much boycotting Marvel movies. But
- 13:09Speaker 5: I will see I will seriously boycott if that's the case.
- 13:13Speaker 4: It says to it says to Challa's son, To'challa comes
- 13:16Speaker 4: of age with eyes on the crown of Wakanda. So
- 13:18Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's the kind of spoiler.
- 13:22Speaker 5: So we're getting a junior without the junior.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, it's not to Chella Junior anyways. Anything
- 13:28Speaker 4: else worth mentioning?
- 13:30Speaker 5: No, not really.
- 13:31Speaker 4: Yeah, long walks standing strong at a three point five
- 13:34Speaker 4: out of five one letterbox. I also gave it a four.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Some things I watched recently, let's see here. I know
- 13:41Speaker 4: I talked about Stocker Jane. I watched a movie called
- 13:45Speaker 4: Summoning Sylvia, which was hilarious. It was a gay bachelor
- 13:49Speaker 4: party gone spooky where they summon Sylvia and that's all
- 13:53Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it. It's fucking hilarious. Uh let's see.
- 13:56Speaker 4: I watched never Be's Incorporated from two thousand and seven,
- 13:58Speaker 4: cent over by Avy Entertainment. Summoning Sylvia was also sent
- 14:02Speaker 4: over by them. Neither Me's Incorporated is a vampire movie
- 14:05Speaker 4: set in office, and it's very much like bloodsucking bastards,
- 14:09Speaker 4: but not at the same time. The only thing they
- 14:11Speaker 4: have in common together is vampire's in a corporate office,
- 14:16Speaker 4: and fucking Steve Burns is in this. If you don't
- 14:19Speaker 4: know who Steve Burns is, he played Steve on Blues
- 14:23Speaker 4: Clues and that's hilarious because this came out in two
- 14:25Speaker 4: thousand and seven and Blues Clues. He left Blues Clues
- 14:29Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven, so that's absolutely hilarious to me.
- 14:34Speaker 4: My culte movie challenge was, let's see, Oh, American International
- 14:39Speaker 4: Pictures Week. Holy shit. They literally had so many movies
- 14:42Speaker 4: to choose from, and I chose to mention thirteen because
- 14:46Speaker 4: it was Francis Ford Coppola's first movie he'd ever done,
- 14:51Speaker 4: and I'm not the biggest Coppola guy. I don't think
- 14:53Speaker 4: Bromsager's Dracula is great. The original Godfather is great on
- 14:57Speaker 4: a technical level, but it does not interest me in
- 15:00Speaker 4: the slightest. I still gave that a four, though, and
- 15:02Speaker 4: this one was just another disappointment from Coppola. It's literally
- 15:06Speaker 4: a Psycho ripoff, and Roger Korman is involved, and he
- 15:10Speaker 4: is known to do things like that where he takes
- 15:13Speaker 4: a movie, rips it off and does like a B
- 15:16Speaker 4: moot like version of it, which is fine, but there's
- 15:19Speaker 4: no Corman quality to this movie. It just feels derivative
- 15:22Speaker 4: of Psycho. And if you're gonna take Psycho and make
- 15:25Speaker 4: a B version of it, do better. So two and
- 15:28Speaker 4: a half you don't like, you don't like Apocalypse now, see,
- 15:31Speaker 4: I haven't seen that, But everything I've everything, Really, I
- 15:34Speaker 4: haven't seen that one, which I guess I wanted to
- 15:38Speaker 4: start at the beginning and work through his career because
- 15:41Speaker 4: mostly Godfather too, I did actually enjoy, But like the
- 15:45Speaker 4: first Gonfrather, I'm like, it is great on a technical level,
- 15:48Speaker 4: Everything about this movie looks great. The acting is great.
- 15:51Speaker 4: I am just I don't give a shit about what's happening,
- 15:54Speaker 4: Like I don't.
- 15:57Speaker 5: A loud ass fucking Trump's saxophone.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna go through his somography and just
- 16:04Speaker 4: but like I just, I don't get the hype around him.
- 16:07Speaker 4: I feel like he made The Godfather. It was one
- 16:10Speaker 4: of the you know, everyone, it's revered as one of
- 16:12Speaker 4: the greatest movies ever, and then after that, everything he
- 16:16Speaker 4: did was just gas the fuck up because of who
- 16:18Speaker 4: he was. You can read my whole review if you want.
- 16:21Speaker 4: I watched a new movie for this year, a screener
- 16:23Speaker 4: Sonumber by Pixel Media for Big Baby, and it is
- 16:26Speaker 4: a movie where a filmmaker is writing a new screenplay
- 16:33Speaker 4: and basically he can't tell what's real and what's not
- 16:36Speaker 4: real anymore, and the the reality and fiction start blending
- 16:41Speaker 4: together and it's it's really good. And I told my
- 16:44Speaker 4: wife halfway through. I was like, Okay, it's either gonna
- 16:47Speaker 4: get too convoluted and we don't know what's real and
- 16:50Speaker 4: what's not, or it's going to explain everything perfectly and
- 16:55Speaker 4: ramp up toward a ending that makes sense. And it
- 16:59Speaker 4: was the first thing. It just it got a little
- 17:01Speaker 4: too convoluted and I wasn't sure what was going on.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Gabby felt the same way. We both gave it a
- 17:05Speaker 4: three out of five. Good movie, good idea, just didn't
- 17:09Speaker 4: really nail the stick the landing.
- 17:11Speaker 2: There.
- 17:12Speaker 4: Watch Late Phases finally, because Late Phases was supposed to
- 17:15Speaker 4: be on last month for uh Werewolf month. Late Late
- 17:19Speaker 4: Faces was fucking awesome. Go check it out. Four out
- 17:23Speaker 4: of five. And then I watched all the Super Troopers
- 17:26Speaker 4: movies because I saw Super Troopers three yesterday. Every single
- 17:29Speaker 4: one of those movies has a four star from me.
- 17:31Speaker 4: They are just hilarious. And then I watched Project cail
- 17:34Speaker 4: Mary finally, and my review for that one is here.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I am crying over a fucking space rock. That movie
- 17:41Speaker 4: was beautiful.
- 17:43Speaker 5: It is literally did you ever watch Spaceman? Did I
- 17:47Speaker 5: make you watch that? The Woman Sailor and Paul Danel.
- 17:49Speaker 4: No, And I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna put it
- 17:51Speaker 4: on my list, write the fuck down because I because
- 17:54Speaker 4: every time you mentioned it, I want to go watch it,
- 17:56Speaker 4: and then and then I then I fucking forget to
- 17:58Speaker 4: watch it.
- 17:59Speaker 5: I got like halfway through Project hail Mary, and I'm like,
- 18:03Speaker 5: this is just a higher budget Spaceman ripoff. Like I like,
- 18:08Speaker 5: they both come from books. The Spaceman book came out
- 18:11Speaker 5: like a year or two before the project Hail Mary book,
- 18:15Speaker 5: so I'm like, this is it's the same movie, except
- 18:20Speaker 5: because it had Ryan Gosling in it, it got way
- 18:23Speaker 5: more attention. And let me tell you, spooky cosmic spider
- 18:28Speaker 5: Paul Dano is better than Rocky the Puppet because he's
- 18:32Speaker 5: got human teeth and it's upsetting.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Well, and I this was straight to Netflix too, This
- 18:37Speaker 4: didn't even go to theaters.
- 18:39Speaker 5: So yeah, uh, that's that's the other reason.
- 18:42Speaker 4: But people also like ninety percent of Hail Mary. All
- 18:46Speaker 4: all the interior shots of the spaceship were all practical.
- 18:49Speaker 4: The alien like the rock was practical. So I don't know,
- 18:52Speaker 4: but it was a beautiful movie. But now I put
- 18:54Speaker 4: that on my last and I'm gonna literally go watch
- 18:56Speaker 4: that today because I keep meaning to and then I've forgotten.
- 19:00Speaker 4: That's all I've got, So let's move on to the
- 19:02Speaker 4: body count. All right. This is the Bay from twenty twelve,
- 19:10Speaker 4: released on November second of that year in the US
- 19:14Speaker 4: rated R for disturbing violent content. Bloody images in language,
- 19:18Speaker 4: no sex and nudity, but there is severe violence and gore,
- 19:21Speaker 4: severe profanity, no alcohol, drugs and smoking, and severe frightening
- 19:25Speaker 4: and intense scenes coming in at an hour and twenty
- 19:27Speaker 4: five minutes unless you watch it on two B, where
- 19:29Speaker 4: apparently you get twenty two ads and it's about two hours.
- 19:32Speaker 4: So that's really weird. Sorry about that, Corey.
- 19:36Speaker 5: Well it's only two It's only a two hour experience
- 19:40Speaker 5: because the twenty two ads ad like thirty minutes worth.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fucking ad. That's crazy too. B is very strange,
- 19:50Speaker 4: but anyway, we'll talk about that later. Listen as a
- 19:53Speaker 4: horror sci fi thriller directed by Barry Levinson, who also
- 19:57Speaker 4: directed Good Morning Vietnam, Rain and Envy with Jack Black
- 20:02Speaker 4: and somebody Else. Written by Barry Levinson who also wrote
- 20:06Speaker 4: Toys and Man of the Year to Robin Williams movies,
- 20:09Speaker 4: and also written by Michael Wallack. This is his only
- 20:12Speaker 4: writing credit. Composed by Marcelo Zarvos, who also composed Rock
- 20:16Speaker 4: the Kasba, The Equalizer three and K Pop Demon Hunters.
- 20:20Speaker 4: Cinematography by Josh Nussbaum. He only has seven credits, and
- 20:23Speaker 4: this is the only movie he did, edited by Aaron Yanes.
- 20:27Speaker 4: He also edited Europa Report and Rock the Kasba, starring
- 20:31Speaker 4: Nanci Aluca as Jacqueline literally the only movie she's ever done,
- 20:35Speaker 4: very strange. Christopher Denham as Sam. He was also an
- 20:39Speaker 4: Argo as Mark Lezek, Stephen Conkin as Doctor Abrams. He
- 20:43Speaker 4: was in nineteen episodes of The Handmaiden's Tale as Commander
- 20:46Speaker 4: Warren Putnam. We have Frank Dial as Mayor Stockton. He
- 20:50Speaker 4: was in eleven episodes of Something called Manifest as Captain
- 20:53Speaker 4: Bill Dally. We have Heather Donna Hugh not Heather Donahue
- 20:58Speaker 4: as Donna. She was in Sick two episodes of Something
- 21:01Speaker 4: called You're the Worst as Lindsey Gillian christ and Connelly
- 21:05Speaker 4: a Stephanie. She was in The Cabin in the Woods
- 21:07Speaker 4: as Dana, and Will Rogers as Alex. Who was in
- 21:09Speaker 4: two episodes of Dexter Resurrection as Merk. Estimated budget of
- 21:14Speaker 4: NA only grossing one point six million. Filmed in Georgetown,
- 21:18Speaker 4: South Carolina. You can watch us on Pluto and tub
- 21:21Speaker 4: Maybe Pluto's a better way to do it this time
- 21:23Speaker 4: instead of two by who the fuck knows movies that
- 21:26Speaker 4: came out are on the same time. The Hobbit, An
- 21:28Speaker 4: Unexpected Journey, Skyfall, Wreck at Ralph, Flight Lincoln, The Twilight Saga,
- 21:35Speaker 4: Breaking Don Part two, Paranormal Activity four, The Man with
- 21:39Speaker 4: the Iron Fists? Would You Rather? And Silent Night? IMDb summary.
- 21:44Speaker 4: Chaos breaks out in a small Maryland town after an
- 21:47Speaker 4: ecological disaster occurs. Let's go into the autopsy, all right, Corey,
- 21:54Speaker 4: so much like Dead Stream, you forgot that you watch this.
- 21:59Speaker 5: Not only did I forget that I watched this. I
- 22:02Speaker 5: was only reminded that I watched this when I went
- 22:06Speaker 5: to log it and I saw it already had a rating.
- 22:09Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, wow.
- 22:11Speaker 5: Did I accidentally like hit a rating as I was
- 22:14Speaker 5: pulling this up, Like, there's no way that I already
- 22:17Speaker 5: rated this? And then I scrolled all the way to
- 22:20Speaker 5: the bottom of my letterbox and went up year by
- 22:24Speaker 5: year to figure out when the fuck I watched it.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Apparently in twenty twenty two, So four years ago. I
- 22:31Speaker 5: watched this movie. Absolutely zero recognition or remembrance of this.
- 22:37Speaker 5: For all intents and purposes, this is the first time
- 22:40Speaker 5: I've watched this movie.
- 22:41Speaker 4: Yeah, i'mlike Dead's Stream, where you started remembering that you
- 22:44Speaker 4: would watched it. I don't know, and we had this conversation.
- 22:47Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to you in twenty twenty two, but.
- 22:51Speaker 5: Anyways, just straight up men in black neuralize for real,
- 22:55Speaker 5: like that's the That's the only thing that I can
- 22:57Speaker 5: because now that I'm thinking about it, I through that
- 23:01Speaker 5: twenty twenty two sectional letterbox. I remember any of these movies.
- 23:05Speaker 5: So let me let me give you. Let me give
- 23:07Speaker 5: you a couple of things that I watched in.
- 23:12Speaker 4: No memory place.
- 23:15Speaker 5: How did I get here?
- 23:17Speaker 4: Right?
- 23:18Speaker 5: So I remember exactly two movies from the September to
- 23:27Speaker 5: October watching Okay, so from September to October, I watched
- 23:32Speaker 5: Rubber War Games the Northmen, which I remember watching the
- 23:38Speaker 5: Northmen and I remember watching Rubber.
- 23:39Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely covered that on the podcast.
- 23:43Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bay, Dark Skies, Mockingbird, and Spell. Okay, I
- 23:51Speaker 5: don't I don't know what Mockingbird or Spell are either.
- 23:55Speaker 4: I think I think what happened is you've definitely got
- 23:58Speaker 4: abducted by aliens after watching Dark Skies and your memory
- 24:02Speaker 4: was just wiped. That's the only explanation I can come
- 24:05Speaker 4: up with.
- 24:05Speaker 5: It's it's that or I got taken over by the zombies.
- 24:09Speaker 5: From one cut of The Dead that I watched in November.
- 24:13Speaker 4: So overall thoughts for the bay, what do we got?
- 24:17Speaker 4: What do we got?
- 24:19Speaker 5: This movie is wonderfully confused by itself. It never knows
- 24:24Speaker 5: what direction it wants to go in, and sometimes it
- 24:29Speaker 5: accidentally itself into a good point, and then the rest
- 24:34Speaker 5: of the time it's just kind of wandering around lost.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, uh okay, So there's no idea what I'm
- 24:47Speaker 4: about to say about this movie. Nope, I love it.
- 24:49Speaker 4: That's a great yeah, because like I I do really
- 24:53Speaker 4: enjoy this movie. There are you know, it's not perfect,
- 24:57Speaker 4: of course, you know, very few movies I to be,
- 25:01Speaker 4: you know, devoid of flaw. But I just enjoy how
- 25:05Speaker 4: the story is told and the fact that you have
- 25:08Speaker 4: no like, like people that watch this for the podcast
- 25:11Speaker 4: are gonna be like, where's the animal attack? What? Like?
- 25:14Speaker 4: What do you how is this animal related? And then
- 25:16Speaker 4: the reveal is that it's some sort of an animal.
- 25:20Speaker 5: By the way, I do want to say that I
- 25:22Speaker 5: technically called it because they they used one of the
- 25:26Speaker 5: words from what I said. Okay, they just added an
- 25:30Speaker 5: additional piece that made it a different creature. But I
- 25:34Speaker 5: was fifty percent correct on what I said the monster
- 25:39Speaker 5: was going to be. Now, I don't know if I
- 25:42Speaker 5: lose credit since I had technically seen it already. Maybe
- 25:45Speaker 5: my subconscious was trying to tell me something. But it
- 25:49Speaker 5: was just back to I did I know the answer?
- 25:53Speaker 5: Lend me out?
- 25:57Speaker 4: What is So? What did you call it?
- 25:58Speaker 5: I said, what is it to be? Like some type
- 26:00Speaker 5: of killer crab or something?
- 26:03Speaker 4: Killer crabs from underwater? So crab battle crab? So yeah,
- 26:09Speaker 4: they are isopods and in this movie, and yeah, no.
- 26:13Speaker 5: One prestatious isopods.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Yeah, and no one sees that coming technically. I mean, yeah,
- 26:17Speaker 4: I guess you could call it a bug. But it's
- 26:19Speaker 4: a fucking animal whatever. Uh, it's it's a genetically mutated
- 26:25Speaker 4: animal from hormones and the chicken shit that are being
- 26:28Speaker 4: dumped into Chestapeake Bay. So it it counts, but it's
- 26:32Speaker 4: gonna throw a lot of people off who hadn't seen
- 26:34Speaker 4: the bay. So we have to start. Let's just start
- 26:37Speaker 4: with where it opens, because it starts in a way
- 26:42Speaker 4: that makes sense.
- 26:44Speaker 3: It was.
- 26:44Speaker 4: It did immediately give me anxiety, though, because you have
- 26:47Speaker 4: all of these overlapping news stories and it got so loud.
- 26:50Speaker 4: I was like, I was like oh god stop, but
- 26:53Speaker 4: it may.
- 26:54Speaker 5: See and I so I love that ship. One of
- 26:57Speaker 5: the one of the reasons that I enjoyed this movie
- 27:00Speaker 5: for what it was is I love like and it's
- 27:05Speaker 5: not even mockumentary. It's like fake news coverage, Like it
- 27:11Speaker 5: transcends one level above mockumentary because documentary you get a
- 27:16Speaker 5: lot of like the interview style and this and that
- 27:19Speaker 5: and the other. Where instead this is much more like
- 27:23Speaker 5: a compilation of clips to prove a point. Anytime it
- 27:30Speaker 5: was like the news coverage or the nine one one
- 27:33Speaker 5: calls or the police video, I was like, this is
- 27:38Speaker 5: what makes the movie work for me. It was every
- 27:42Speaker 5: fucking time Donna was on camera and I was like,
- 27:45Speaker 5: it's weak.
- 27:46Speaker 4: It's well years holes when she was commented like like
- 27:52Speaker 4: her and in the presence commenting on it or her
- 27:55Speaker 4: reporting on it. Yes, oh you didn't like something. I'm
- 28:00Speaker 4: a fan of her, whatsoever.
- 28:01Speaker 5: No, Donna Thompson. Donna Thompson is the weakest part of
- 28:06Speaker 5: this movie.
- 28:06Speaker 4: Interesting, okay, see because I'm my issue with Gady kind
- 28:12Speaker 4: of pointed it out last night because until she said something,
- 28:15Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it. But there there are moments
- 28:17Speaker 4: where we see something on screen and then she'll kind
- 28:20Speaker 4: of reiterate what just happened or be like and then
- 28:23Speaker 4: you know they had no idea what terrors were awaiting them,
- 28:26Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is redundant, like we know terrible
- 28:29Speaker 4: things are happening.
- 28:31Speaker 5: So it felt to me, it felt like I'm gonna
- 28:37Speaker 5: try and be Jennifer Carpenter from Quarantine, except I'm nowhere
- 28:44Speaker 5: near as talented or good looking, and it's it's gonna
- 28:47Speaker 5: it's gonna fall about ten feet short of where I'm
- 28:51Speaker 5: trying to get it too.
- 28:52Speaker 4: And that's exactly why I said it's the bastard child
- 28:55Speaker 4: of Quarantine and Jaws, because it's essentially a combination of quarantine.
- 28:59Speaker 4: You have of this pretty I don't. I don't know
- 29:02Speaker 4: how established Jennifer Carpenter was as a reporter in Quarantine,
- 29:07Speaker 4: but I know that they were going out to report
- 29:10Speaker 4: on something and then oh shit, chaos ensus and then
- 29:13Speaker 4: it's basically Jaws because you have the fucking mayor like
- 29:15Speaker 4: go everything's fine, you know, the water's good, everybody go
- 29:18Speaker 4: fourth of July. Uh so yes, and I will. God,
- 29:22Speaker 4: I don't know why she didn't like. I think the
- 29:25Speaker 4: issue was that fucking haircut on her while she's reporting
- 29:29Speaker 4: is a crime against humanity if she would have had
- 29:31Speaker 4: the hair she had when she was, you know, talking.
- 29:35Speaker 5: About she she she's trying trying to pull off a
- 29:38Speaker 5: young an or a mid thirties and hathaway and it
- 29:43Speaker 5: just wasn't work. It see, and I and I got
- 29:45Speaker 5: it looked like she was wearing a fucking wig, Like
- 29:49Speaker 5: she put on a bald cap and then put on
- 29:50Speaker 5: a wig.
- 29:51Speaker 4: Yeah, and I totally got. I know they've transitioned to
- 29:55Speaker 4: Elliott Page, but I saw her. I was like, all
- 29:58Speaker 4: I'm seeing is Ellen Page with uh or not? Is
- 30:01Speaker 4: that the haircut she had in Juno? Am I thinking
- 30:03Speaker 4: of someone else? I'm thinking of someone.
- 30:05Speaker 5: You're no, you're thinking of the hair You're thinking of
- 30:07Speaker 5: the haircut they had in the final season of Umbrella Academy.
- 30:12Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it was, or maybe I'm thinking the
- 30:14Speaker 4: haircut that Elliott Page has. Now I'm like, I'm like,
- 30:16Speaker 4: I don't know what that haircut is, but it is
- 30:18Speaker 4: not working on you, fucking Donna. The other hair you
- 30:22Speaker 4: had is work.
- 30:23Speaker 5: Is so I affectionately refer to it as the lego
- 30:28Speaker 5: minifig hair. Yeah, that's what it looks like it's exactly
- 30:32Speaker 5: what it looks like. It just it just sticks on.
- 30:35Speaker 5: You can spin it around backwards if you want them
- 30:38Speaker 5: to have bangs.
- 30:39Speaker 4: Okay. So not a fan of Donna at all throughout
- 30:42Speaker 4: the movie, and that is a major thing to have
- 30:45Speaker 4: an issue with because she is literally the driving force
- 30:48Speaker 4: of both there. Like you've got two narratives, her retrospective
- 30:52Speaker 4: on it and her reporting on it.
- 30:55Speaker 5: Damn, that's a sh like this. This will tell you
- 30:58Speaker 5: I liked the more than I liked Donna.
- 31:05Speaker 4: Well, and you know, I do wonder how much the
- 31:08Speaker 4: mayor actually knew, Like he was definitely culpable in some
- 31:12Speaker 4: of the events because I'm but like, how much did
- 31:15Speaker 4: he genuinely know? Because by the end of the movie
- 31:18Speaker 4: you find out.
- 31:19Speaker 5: Well, he knows, he knows a fair bit because it's
- 31:22Speaker 5: his chickens. He he was the owner of the of
- 31:27Speaker 5: the of the chicken thing before he became mayor.
- 31:31Speaker 4: Okay, so then he knows at least that much. Okay,
- 31:35Speaker 4: because yeah, by the end of the movie, so he.
- 31:37Speaker 5: He knows that even before this has happened, he has
- 31:41Speaker 5: poisoned the water supply with chicken shit and steroids.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Okay, So he knows at least that much, so he
- 31:47Speaker 4: is definitely culpable in it. Uh. And we'll get to
- 31:51Speaker 4: how it all devolves. But going back to that beginning,
- 31:54Speaker 4: I do love the newscaster kind of intro. Everyone's reporting
- 31:57Speaker 4: on all these dead fish, these dead birds, blah blah
- 31:59Speaker 4: blah blah, and then we get text on screen. Fuck yah,
- 32:02Speaker 4: let's go. It says those events were covered by the media.
- 32:04Speaker 4: The following story was never made public. Fucking I'm in.
- 32:09Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm ready for all of this. Great intro
- 32:12Speaker 4: for me, because it also changes the context of what
- 32:15Speaker 4: we're about to watch. We're not watching like the official version.
- 32:18Speaker 4: We're watching the footage that was buried because we as
- 32:22Speaker 4: we find out throughout the movie, this whole thing was
- 32:25Speaker 4: like basically a kind of a government not conspiracy, but
- 32:29Speaker 4: a government cover up. I would because it had nothing
- 32:32Speaker 4: to do with the government itself. It was the mayor
- 32:34Speaker 4: and his chickens. But there was so many things that
- 32:37Speaker 4: happened on a governmental level that failed. Like they got
- 32:41Speaker 4: the information to what was it that the divers popped up,
- 32:46Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, it's just bull sharks. So they
- 32:48Speaker 4: sent that to Homeland Security, who was like, that's not
- 32:50Speaker 4: bull sharks, and then they send it to the Coast Guard.
- 32:52Speaker 4: He was like, well, this doesn't make sense. So it
- 32:54Speaker 4: goes back to Homeland Security, who send it to FEMA.
- 32:57Speaker 4: FEMA never responds, and then so.
- 32:59Speaker 5: Then they said it to the EPA, and the EPA
- 33:02Speaker 5: doesn't do anything. So then it finally trickles back down
- 33:05Speaker 5: to the CDC, who surprisingly have already been working on
- 33:08Speaker 5: it because the main doctor from the hospital has been
- 33:12Speaker 5: in contact with the CDC since this all started.
- 33:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it took it.
- 33:17Speaker 5: It's a it's a weird like chain link or a boris,
- 33:21Speaker 5: like the snake is eating its own tail, but it
- 33:24Speaker 5: also doesn't know it's eating its own tail until it's
- 33:28Speaker 5: already eaten part of its own tail.
- 33:29Speaker 4: Yeah, because the information of all of this, because the
- 33:33Speaker 4: medical examiner said it it seemed, you know, it was
- 33:35Speaker 4: like it was not bull sharks. It seemed to be
- 33:37Speaker 4: some sort of parasitic organism. And the CDC is like,
- 33:41Speaker 4: why did it take sixteen fucking days to get to us.
- 33:45Speaker 4: So they find out pretty much by the time, the
- 33:48Speaker 4: town is all dead, which is crazy. So I love
- 33:51Speaker 4: that part of the story, and that's what I think works.
- 33:53Speaker 4: So well is how it kind of builds that mystery
- 33:56Speaker 4: of what's going on. It gives you little pieces over
- 33:59Speaker 4: time you realize that, oh, it was a fuck up
- 34:02Speaker 4: on a whole other level of miscommunication. So it's just
- 34:07Speaker 4: crazy that the government failed at so many levels. And
- 34:10Speaker 4: I think that's what's so scary about this movie is
- 34:12Speaker 4: because like, man, this just feels like it could really happen.
- 34:16Speaker 4: I mean, look at COVID. Look how quickly that got
- 34:18Speaker 4: out of our hands. Yeah, so something accept it.
- 34:22Speaker 5: I will say the good thing, like I have enough
- 34:28Speaker 5: faith in the human race as a whole that as
- 34:33Speaker 5: soon as like one or two people started showing symptoms
- 34:37Speaker 5: of these giant fuck ass water cockroach is essentially popping
- 34:45Speaker 5: out of people's bodies, like humanity would put the kibosh
- 34:48Speaker 5: on itself to be like, all right, this is very
- 34:51Speaker 5: clearly happening because water, let's just all get the fuck
- 34:55Speaker 5: out of here. Like the amount of individuals with absolutely
- 35:00Speaker 5: no survival skills just walking through town wailing, and like
- 35:05Speaker 5: the one woman in the beginning, she's got this terrible ration,
- 35:07Speaker 5: She's like, where's my husband, Where's my husband? It's like
- 35:10Speaker 5: I don't know a single person and I've met a
- 35:12Speaker 5: lot of people in my life. You've met a lot
- 35:14Speaker 5: of people in your life. If you all of the
- 35:18Speaker 5: sudden develop like what I can only describe as acid
- 35:23Speaker 5: level rash birds out of nowhere? What person do you
- 35:29Speaker 5: know that's going to wander into a crowd of people
- 35:32Speaker 5: and ask them where where your husband is?
- 35:36Speaker 3: Right?
- 35:36Speaker 5: Not a single person? Yeah, Like most people, if anything,
- 35:39Speaker 5: are just gonna drop down on the ground and wail
- 35:42Speaker 5: in one spot. Like everybody knows. If you're in trouble,
- 35:47Speaker 5: you fucking stay where you're at so people can come
- 35:50Speaker 5: find you. You don't leave and get lost.
- 35:54Speaker 4: Yeah, Because she leaves and wanders through town, and of
- 35:56Speaker 4: course everyone seeing that starts running away from her because
- 36:00Speaker 4: that's fucking scary. I would also be running away from
- 36:03Speaker 4: a woman who who's covered in rashes yelling for her husband. Uh,
- 36:08Speaker 4: why did you lose your husband? Why were why weren't
- 36:10Speaker 4: you right next to him? Lady? What are you doing?
- 36:13Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it's fucking horrifying. And the thing about
- 36:17Speaker 4: this movie too, is you know there are sometimes in
- 36:19Speaker 4: found like you know, it's hard, it's hard to classify
- 36:22Speaker 4: this one. I guess this would be considered like faux
- 36:26Speaker 4: news movie out whatever you want to call it.
- 36:28Speaker 5: But it actually I would I would classify this like
- 36:31Speaker 5: very strongly in the mockumentary category.
- 36:34Speaker 4: Yeah, just because.
- 36:35Speaker 5: Of the interview style that they're doing.
- 36:39Speaker 4: Yeah, because the you know, the camera has a reason
- 36:42Speaker 4: to be there, the report. You know, the reporter is
- 36:44Speaker 4: reporting on things live. Uh, They're gonna keep that camera
- 36:48Speaker 4: rolling to get as much footage as you can, just
- 36:50Speaker 4: like Quarantine where she's like, don't ever stop rolling. She
- 36:54Speaker 4: just keep rolling. Shoot everything. That's essentially what we have here.
- 36:57Speaker 4: And then there are I do feel like the cameras
- 37:02Speaker 4: bounce around a lot, and I get it, they're using
- 37:03Speaker 4: cop car footage, they're using security cameras, people's iPhones, people's camcorders,
- 37:09Speaker 4: but like the jump around of all the different qualities
- 37:12Speaker 4: and aspect ratios, I was like, this is a little much.
- 37:16Speaker 4: It's totally makes sense with the narrative, and I'm not
- 37:19Speaker 4: disputing that, but I was like, like the dipping quality
- 37:22Speaker 4: between all of this stuff wasn't really fully working for me.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Though it did make sense, you know, like I get
- 37:28Speaker 4: why we're doing this.
- 37:30Speaker 5: And see for me, like I spend a lot of
- 37:33Speaker 5: years in that Golden Age of YouTube watching like absolute
- 37:39Speaker 5: crack pot conspiracy theory videos. So this reminded me a
- 37:44Speaker 5: whole lot of like, hey, let's make nine to eleven
- 37:49Speaker 5: about the Jews type of conspiracy theory videos, Like you're
- 37:53Speaker 5: gonna have one section that's like ultra good like processed quality,
- 37:59Speaker 5: and they're gonna show you like toaster footage from a
- 38:03Speaker 5: bank in two thousand and two, Like that's that's very
- 38:06Speaker 5: much what it felt like. So for me, I was like,
- 38:08Speaker 5: all right for this, I am along for the ride,
- 38:10Speaker 5: okay like that, Like, I really liked how they did
- 38:14Speaker 5: the super choppy security cam video at the end in
- 38:21Speaker 5: the antique store with uh, mister and missus what's their
- 38:26Speaker 5: face and the baby, But because of the audio recording
- 38:31Speaker 5: from the main guys camera, you get good audio with
- 38:37Speaker 5: bad video, and it's it is really cool. But on
- 38:41Speaker 5: the subject of bad quality video, my biggest pet peeve
- 38:46Speaker 5: and the and the reason I gave this a full
- 38:50Speaker 5: half point less Oh shit, the mother fucking editing in this. Yeah,
- 38:57Speaker 5: I I I stopped counting at about twenty five camera
- 39:04Speaker 5: glitches where it's like something's happening and you get like
- 39:09Speaker 5: a literal one frame cut of like the previous scenes
- 39:14Speaker 5: camera stuff, or there's one part where uh Donna's talking
- 39:20Speaker 5: and you'll get this like little rectangle cut in of
- 39:24Speaker 5: the previous text on screen, and it's like like it
- 39:29Speaker 5: like camera glitching shit, and I'm like this is bad,
- 39:34Speaker 5: Like this is this is this is poor quality? Like
- 39:38Speaker 5: for no reason should this skype call have information card
- 39:46Speaker 5: cutting into it? Like that doesn't make any sense. The
- 39:50Speaker 5: reason the the reason these camera cuts work is because
- 39:55Speaker 5: somebody is walking into something supernatural like ghosts, demons, electromagnetic fields.
- 40:03Speaker 5: Those things fuck with cameras. You know what doesn't fuck
- 40:06Speaker 5: with cameras. Bugs. Bugs don't fuck with cameras. They don't
- 40:11Speaker 5: have thumbs, they don't have pads of fingers. They can't
- 40:15Speaker 5: fuck with a camera. Why is why are these camera
- 40:19Speaker 5: shots being gunked together in glitch edits when there is
- 40:25Speaker 5: absolutely zero reason for them to be, especially if these
- 40:30Speaker 5: were all recordings that had been previously confiscated by the government.
- 40:36Speaker 5: The one thing the government will do they may not
- 40:39Speaker 5: file it away correctly, but they will file it away
- 40:42Speaker 5: as its original thing. It's not gonna be like decompiled
- 40:48Speaker 5: and fucking a malformed file. I can't think of the
- 40:51Speaker 5: right word corrupted, it wouldn't be a corrupted file.
- 40:55Speaker 4: Well, even if it was corrupted. Uh, the CD that's
- 41:00Speaker 4: so weird. I did not notice that. And I'm also
- 41:04Speaker 4: taking notes the whole time, so sometimes I might look
- 41:06Speaker 4: down at the exact moment that this is happening. But
- 41:10Speaker 4: I never noticed the editing doing that. That's so strange.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Now I have to, like, I'll just have to like
- 41:16Speaker 4: skip to a scene or something and see if I can.
- 41:18Speaker 5: Yeah. No, and once once you notice it and you
- 41:22Speaker 5: watch for like fifteen more minutes, you're gonna be like,
- 41:25Speaker 5: oh no.
- 41:26Speaker 4: You can't like it.
- 41:27Speaker 5: I didn't, like until my brain had registered it. I
- 41:31Speaker 5: was like, all right, and then I started counting, So like,
- 41:34Speaker 5: it happened a few times before I realized it was happening,
- 41:38Speaker 5: and then it happened enough times you are like, oh,
- 41:40Speaker 5: let me start counting this, right, So the twenty five
- 41:43Speaker 5: that I counted, there's probably way more.
- 41:46Speaker 4: Oh my god, Okay, oh man, yikes. Yeah, I didn't realize.
- 41:51Speaker 4: I didn't notice that at all. Wow. All right, So
- 41:54Speaker 4: that's something I'll have to pay attention to on my
- 41:56Speaker 4: next watch. And this is one of the re This
- 41:58Speaker 4: is one of the things that you always bring to
- 42:00Speaker 4: the table ship that I always I always mess uh so,
- 42:06Speaker 4: and and there is a lot going on speaking of
- 42:07Speaker 4: like all the different camera angles and stuff like that.
- 42:09Speaker 4: You have essentially, oh man, I mean, I'd say you
- 42:13Speaker 4: have four main storylines because you have the scientists that
- 42:19Speaker 4: were all that stuff was recorded six weeks prior doing
- 42:22Speaker 4: all of their investigation. You have Donna in the present
- 42:27Speaker 4: recounting everything. Then you have Donna in the past interviewing everybody.
- 42:32Speaker 4: And then you have the CDC's title. So you have
- 42:35Speaker 4: like four timelines kind of going.
- 42:37Speaker 5: Then you have a Stephanie and her husband and oh, yeah,
- 42:42Speaker 5: you've got five. Another thing. Yeah, you're you're a parent
- 42:47Speaker 5: of a of a small human. Yes, when when your
- 42:52Speaker 5: human was at its smallest, would you have taken that
- 42:56Speaker 5: human on a seven hour personal boat ride?
- 43:01Speaker 4: Was it seven? I thought it was two?
- 43:03Speaker 5: No, they said estimated travel times seven hours in the
- 43:07Speaker 5: in the in the text card.
- 43:10Speaker 4: Oh my, uh, I mean at that age, they don't
- 43:14Speaker 4: they're just kind of a potato. They just they're just there. Uh,
- 43:17Speaker 4: they'll probably sleep most of the time. But that is
- 43:19Speaker 4: a lot of sun exposure. So as long as there
- 43:21Speaker 4: was placed, as long as there was shade and it
- 43:24Speaker 4: wasn't balls hot. Uh and baby probably.
- 43:29Speaker 5: My thing is like I don't know when the last
- 43:32Speaker 5: time you were on a boat was so long ago.
- 43:36Speaker 5: Boats are loud, like that is that is severe hearing
- 43:39Speaker 5: damage for a for an infant?
- 43:41Speaker 4: Yeah that is. Uh yeah, boats are pretty fucking loud.
- 43:46Speaker 4: So I mean, no, I probably wouldn't take Mike. And
- 43:49Speaker 4: that kid too, is just sitting there in his life
- 43:51Speaker 4: vest just like fuck, I'm here, like this sucks kid
- 43:54Speaker 4: to not.
- 43:54Speaker 5: Yeah, the life vest is bigger than the baby. Yeah,
- 43:59Speaker 5: they don't baby life fests because babies aren't supposed to
- 44:03Speaker 5: be on the water.
- 44:04Speaker 4: Yeah, not out in that water, that's for fucking sure.
- 44:07Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so I no, probably wouldn't do that. I
- 44:10Speaker 4: mean we the farthest we've taken her in the car
- 44:14Speaker 4: is like two two three, two or three hours and
- 44:17Speaker 4: she does fine there.
- 44:18Speaker 5: Well, and see that's a that but that's what I'm saying.
- 44:21Speaker 4: That's a car card.
- 44:22Speaker 5: That's like, that's like enclosed. There's climate controls. Yeah, there's
- 44:27Speaker 5: like seat belts and air bags, and if you for
- 44:33Speaker 5: some reason fall out of a car, there's the ground
- 44:37Speaker 5: you don't sink into concrete.
- 44:39Speaker 4: It's true, yeah, I probably wouldn't be uh taking my
- 44:43Speaker 4: kid on a boat ride that fucking long. Uh, that's
- 44:46Speaker 4: that's for goddamn sure. So, yeah, you have a lot
- 44:50Speaker 4: of timelines going on. I don't feel like it's ever
- 44:53Speaker 4: necessarily confusing. I feel like they do a good job
- 44:57Speaker 4: keeping everything separate at the same time. Oh shit, you're right,
- 45:03Speaker 4: I'm just having a playing down here. This is so weird.
- 45:07Speaker 4: There's a weird cut here ready, yeah, boat?
- 45:10Speaker 5: Yeah, what the fuck? And it does that through the
- 45:14Speaker 5: entire fucking movie.
- 45:17Speaker 4: That's so weird. That's so weird. It's it was too science,
- 45:22Speaker 4: the two scientists on their boat and all of a sudden,
- 45:24Speaker 4: random boat what Okay, that's weird.
- 45:27Speaker 5: Yes, and it's it's all that cuts from either the
- 45:32Speaker 5: previous scene or a scene from the future. And and
- 45:37Speaker 5: for no reason should it do this, because it's it's
- 45:41Speaker 5: built into the screen like it's like it's a camera glitch,
- 45:46Speaker 5: like it's an editing glitch due to something when in fact,
- 45:51Speaker 5: like this is just super poor editing. This is some
- 45:56Speaker 5: of the worst editing I've ever seen.
- 45:58Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, And I guess I first, you know,
- 46:02Speaker 4: I'm not really paying attention to it because there's so
- 46:04Speaker 4: many different camera angles, so many different storylines. I'm already
- 46:08Speaker 4: just trying to focus on that, so noticing the editing
- 46:12Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't even on my radar. I'm just trying
- 46:15Speaker 4: to keep up with the sixteen storylines that are happening here.
- 46:17Speaker 4: But like I said, it doesn't really feel like it's
- 46:20Speaker 4: it's hard to follow, but there's a lot of moving
- 46:23Speaker 4: pieces with this story, and there is a lot to
- 46:25Speaker 4: keep up with, especially because it's only an hour and
- 46:27Speaker 4: twenty six minutes. It's a very short movie that they
- 46:29Speaker 4: cram a lot of stuff into it is it is very.
- 46:33Speaker 5: Uh, pulp fiction y in the sense that, like all
- 46:37Speaker 5: these storylines eventually converge onto the final evening of July fourth.
- 46:43Speaker 4: That's true.
- 46:45Speaker 5: I do like that at least we get the everybody
- 46:51Speaker 5: ends up in essentially the same general area of things
- 46:55Speaker 5: going on.
- 46:56Speaker 4: Yeah, they for the most part, they all end up
- 46:59Speaker 4: in kind of like I would say, the central square
- 47:02Speaker 4: of town, whatever you want to call it. That's where
- 47:05Speaker 4: Donna ends up. That's where their names are with the kids,
- 47:10Speaker 4: Sam and Sorry Alex and Stephanie. Of course Sam and Jacqueline.
- 47:17Speaker 4: They those are the two scientists that died who Everyone
- 47:20Speaker 4: was like, oh, it's bull sharks, but like, no, no
- 47:22Speaker 4: bull shark attacks like that. The thing I didn't like
- 47:26Speaker 4: about their whole thing is that bro was constantly putting
- 47:30Speaker 4: her down for having an accent.
- 47:33Speaker 5: I was like, can we she's French, like she's free. Yeah,
- 47:36Speaker 5: well no, to be fair, she's French. Yeah, we're allowed
- 47:39Speaker 5: because fuck the French, they lost their own civil war.
- 47:43Speaker 3: I know.
- 47:43Speaker 4: But he just was like, like, what are you saying?
- 47:45Speaker 4: You can't understand You're like, okay, I get the bit, like,
- 47:48Speaker 4: you don't need to degrade this woman just because she
- 47:51Speaker 4: has a French accent, Like, oh my goodness.
- 47:53Speaker 5: No, I honestly believe that he was saying that it
- 48:00Speaker 5: reference to her. They're they're doing these they're doing these
- 48:08Speaker 5: videos to send to the Environmental Council of Maryland. Right,
- 48:13Speaker 5: so if the Environmental Council, I don't know, if you've
- 48:16Speaker 5: ever heard of Maryland accent. It's wacky, like there's and
- 48:21Speaker 5: not you got the Maryland accent, and then you have
- 48:24Speaker 5: the Baltimore accent, which is even more asininely crazy. Yeah,
- 48:30Speaker 5: and I guarantee you most of them don't undersplit understand
- 48:35Speaker 5: a French person speaking English, that's fair, and especially because
- 48:40Speaker 5: later on she's like blah blah blah something and then
- 48:43Speaker 5: she just moves on from it, and he's like, you
- 48:46Speaker 5: you skipped pat, Like you need to explain this part more.
- 48:49Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the the forty percent dead zone. Oh how
- 48:53Speaker 5: the Chesapeake Bays is forty percent lifeless? Now? Uh? And
- 48:57Speaker 5: then she had she kind of yeah, y'all had passed that,
- 49:00Speaker 5: and he's like, no, go back, like, explain that a
- 49:02Speaker 5: little bit more.
- 49:03Speaker 4: So, Yeah, let's give him all some context here, because I.
- 49:07Speaker 5: Like, I don't I don't mind that he was bullying
- 49:09Speaker 5: the French person. I don't like French Canadians. So you know,
- 49:15Speaker 5: it's it's all all is fair in love and war.
- 49:21Speaker 4: Oh goodness, let's see here. So well, I mean, let's
- 49:25Speaker 4: I guess we'll talk about some of the stuff that.
- 49:27Speaker 4: So you didn't like Donna, you didn't like the editing
- 49:29Speaker 4: all fair to all valid points. Did you at least
- 49:33Speaker 4: appreciate and I know you said you did, like all
- 49:36Speaker 4: the different cameras like this is something all allowed? I mean,
- 49:39Speaker 4: did did the pacing work it all for?
- 49:41Speaker 3: You?
- 49:41Speaker 4: Did the kind of.
- 49:43Speaker 5: So by the end of the movie, I was thinking
- 49:48Speaker 5: very very hard about giving this movie a two point
- 49:52Speaker 5: five okay, and then I realized I was upset not
- 49:57Speaker 5: at the movie, but at the amount and the length
- 50:01Speaker 5: of the ads. And I felt disingenuous to ding the
- 50:08Speaker 5: pacing based on the company that is providing me the movie,
- 50:13Speaker 5: not the movie itself. So the pacing was a little fucked,
- 50:18Speaker 5: but that's because each ad break was between four and
- 50:25Speaker 5: six ads. The first ad break was sixth, the second
- 50:29Speaker 5: one was four, the third one was five, the fifth
- 50:33Speaker 5: one was six. So yeah, there was there was an
- 50:39Speaker 5: insane amount of ads, and it did ruin the pacing,
- 50:44Speaker 5: but that's not the movie's fault.
- 50:47Speaker 4: So we had a conversation about this at some point
- 50:50Speaker 4: recently with a movie where I was like, do you
- 50:52Speaker 4: think the ads affected your rating? And you said no
- 50:55Speaker 4: in that instance. So I find it interesting that in
- 50:57Speaker 4: this instance, I.
- 50:58Speaker 5: Think it almost think it was Godzilla Ver's Space Godzilla.
- 51:02Speaker 4: It might have been okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's
- 51:04Speaker 4: interesting that it's that it's the opposite here, because you're like,
- 51:07Speaker 4: I probably would have like enjoyed the movie more had
- 51:10Speaker 4: we not had twenty two, but that that is a
- 51:12Speaker 4: lot of ads from Toby especially for a movie from
- 51:15Speaker 4: twenty twelve that no one I've ever talked to you.
- 51:19Speaker 5: At an hour and twenty three minutes there were there
- 51:24Speaker 5: was twenty three to thirty minutes of ads. That one third, Yeah,
- 51:31Speaker 5: of this fucking movie was ads.
- 51:33Speaker 4: That's too much, that's way Yeah.
- 51:36Speaker 5: So I'm sure if they would have cut out one
- 51:41Speaker 5: ad break, Yeah, like, if they would have cut out
- 51:43Speaker 5: one section of six ads, Okay, it probably would have
- 51:47Speaker 5: been fine, but it did. It did hinder the watchability
- 51:53Speaker 5: of this ever so slightly. Yeah.
- 51:55Speaker 4: See, I bought that there is a I think there
- 51:58Speaker 4: is a Blu ray, but I about the DVD because
- 52:00Speaker 4: it was the only thing that was readily available. So
- 52:02Speaker 4: I think that's why for me, I enjoyed the pacing
- 52:04Speaker 4: because there's a lot of mystery. You get great build up,
- 52:07Speaker 4: you slowly start getting explanations over time, and then by
- 52:10Speaker 4: the end of it you realize that, like you said,
- 52:13Speaker 4: the CDC's kind of been like chasing its own tail,
- 52:16Speaker 4: and like, well, we didn't get this fucking information until
- 52:18Speaker 4: sixteen days later. That's not even our fault. So by
- 52:20Speaker 4: the time you get there and you're like, well, the
- 52:22Speaker 4: town's fucking dead. The mom and the baby survive, thank god,
- 52:25Speaker 4: because my wife was like, am I about to see
- 52:28Speaker 4: a baby die? And I was like, I cannot say
- 52:30Speaker 4: yes or no because I don't remember it's been a
- 52:32Speaker 4: while since it's been a while since I watched those.
- 52:35Speaker 4: But the mom and the baby survive, thank god.
- 52:38Speaker 5: And I really also enjoy how they ever so slightly
- 52:45Speaker 5: changed the formula of a slow burn because they set
- 52:49Speaker 5: you up like this is going to be an ultra
- 52:53Speaker 5: slow burn movie, Like you can tell by the way
- 52:57Speaker 5: they are delivering you information. We're not gonna give you
- 53:00Speaker 5: an answer until like the last twenty minutes, and then
- 53:03Speaker 5: like halfway through, they give you one bug. Yeah, one bug,
- 53:09Speaker 5: and it's like, so you've got this long fuse going,
- 53:13Speaker 5: and in the middle of this long fuse, you've got
- 53:16Speaker 5: one firecracker, and the firecracker goes off, and then the
- 53:20Speaker 5: long burn continues and you're like, wait, okay, no, it's past.
- 53:24Speaker 5: But you think, you think that you're about to be wrong,
- 53:28Speaker 5: and it's just gonna ramp up crazy and you get
- 53:31Speaker 5: the one pop and the bug skitters into the ocean
- 53:35Speaker 5: and then it's back to business as normal. I really
- 53:37Speaker 5: enjoyed that because it gave me it gave me a
- 53:40Speaker 5: little taste of what was to come, right, but it didn't.
- 53:43Speaker 5: It didn't leave me going, well, that was fucking dumb,
- 53:47Speaker 5: because it's it's so quick and so snappy with it,
- 53:50Speaker 5: like it comes out of the fish, it bites the
- 53:52Speaker 5: guy on the hand, hits the boat into the water
- 53:54Speaker 5: like it's just so quick. They don't linger on it.
- 53:58Speaker 5: They don't even replay that bit of footage again until
- 54:04Speaker 5: the very end, and it's the same like three second clip.
- 54:09Speaker 5: It's just super quick in and out. I the storytelling
- 54:15Speaker 5: pacing was really good. I can't speak for the pacing
- 54:18Speaker 5: of the actual movie, but the way they paste out
- 54:20Speaker 5: the story was good. I I enjoyed that much.
- 54:24Speaker 4: Okay, here's another one. I just saw another one. Hold on,
- 54:28Speaker 4: I just I'm telling you man, so yeah, I was.
- 54:32Speaker 4: I don't know if you so. This is this is
- 54:33Speaker 4: cop car footage, right, cop car footage? And then all
- 54:37Speaker 4: of a sudden, wait for it, what is that?
- 54:42Speaker 5: Back to back? Yeah, back to back to the sky call. Yeah.
- 54:45Speaker 5: I don't think it was so bad.
- 54:47Speaker 4: I don't think that was in my Blu ray. I
- 54:49Speaker 4: feel like I would have noticed that. I don't think
- 54:51Speaker 4: that was in the the DVD that I bought.
- 54:54Speaker 5: That is, so do we have does to be have
- 54:57Speaker 5: some kind of like corrupted cut of the movie? Like,
- 55:01Speaker 5: to me, is such garbage that the formatting of the
- 55:06Speaker 5: movie gets changed.
- 55:07Speaker 4: All right, I am, I am gonna clip this. I'm
- 55:11Speaker 4: so what is it? Forty eight forty eight minutes? I
- 55:13Speaker 4: Am going to check after this episode and see because
- 55:18Speaker 4: if that's not in my version, then they have some fucky,
- 55:21Speaker 4: weird version and then I'm just gonna suck. I'm gonna
- 55:23Speaker 4: have to send you a DVD so we can like,
- 55:26Speaker 4: what the fuck I I really would have noticed that.
- 55:29Speaker 4: There's no way I would have fucking missed that. Because
- 55:32Speaker 4: it is cop.
- 55:32Speaker 5: Car fo it happens through the entire movie. Yeah, the
- 55:37Speaker 5: entire movie. It happened, Yes, up until like up until
- 55:40Speaker 5: like the crest, like that last twenty minutes where the
- 55:43Speaker 5: footage all goes to like single action and they're just
- 55:47Speaker 5: switching between cameras. But when you get like those long
- 55:51Speaker 5: shots of Stephanie the baby, it doesn't happen nothing in
- 55:53Speaker 5: the antique store, but literally up until they get off
- 55:57Speaker 5: of the boat. Shit like that has happened the entire movie.
- 56:01Speaker 4: Yeah, the entire movie We're literally watching dash cam footage
- 56:05Speaker 4: from a cop car and then all of a sudden,
- 56:07Speaker 4: the skype session with Donna from the present quote unquote
- 56:11Speaker 4: pops up. That doesn't make any sense, so I'm I'm
- 56:13Speaker 4: leaving that on two and.
- 56:14Speaker 5: It's always for like a single frame.
- 56:17Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one frame, So that doesn't even make sense.
- 56:19Speaker 4: So that's that's.
- 56:20Speaker 5: Why I feel so vindicated now that you're seeing it
- 56:24Speaker 5: an understanding because I said this and you looked at me,
- 56:27Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, am I Am I just overreacting?
- 56:30Speaker 5: Am I being too nitpicky?
- 56:32Speaker 3: No?
- 56:32Speaker 4: And let me let me let me just say this
- 56:34Speaker 4: for everyone listening. It's not that I did not believe him.
- 56:36Speaker 4: I'm making sure I'm not fucking losing my mind because
- 56:40Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel like, I like, Corey is not
- 56:42Speaker 4: just gonna make something up. Did I just miss this?
- 56:45Speaker 4: But it is. It is absolutely happening on two B.
- 56:48Speaker 4: I saw two times of it because I've just been
- 56:50Speaker 4: letting it play here and and I have it in
- 56:52Speaker 4: my peripheral and when I see a flash and I
- 56:54Speaker 4: look down, so yeah, I've caught two of them. That's
- 56:57Speaker 4: fucking insane. So back to the pacing back to this
- 57:02Speaker 4: fucking weird pacing. Yeah, so the pacing for me works
- 57:06Speaker 4: great because you you do get that little firecracker, and
- 57:09Speaker 4: that's a great way to explain. You get this firecracker moment.
- 57:12Speaker 4: Now you know what's going on, and now you're just
- 57:15Speaker 4: waiting for everyone else in town to like find out
- 57:19Speaker 4: what's happening as well. And like I said, going back
- 57:21Speaker 4: to what I said in the beginning, it feels so
- 57:23Speaker 4: real because the chicken run off with all of the
- 57:27Speaker 4: chemicals and the hormones is running off into the water.
- 57:30Speaker 4: So these isopods are growing at like forty to fifty
- 57:33Speaker 4: percent faster than they would and they're they're they're reproducing
- 57:37Speaker 4: much faster, and they're just attacking everyone. So it's just
- 57:41Speaker 4: this thing that, yes, it's very theatrical in a way,
- 57:43Speaker 4: but it's something that does feel so genuinely real, like
- 57:47Speaker 4: it could actually happen. That I love. I love when
- 57:50Speaker 4: movies kind of uh you know, they sit on that
- 57:53Speaker 4: line of reality and fiction, Like I could see this happening, and.
- 57:56Speaker 5: It's speaking of the reality in fiction. So it takes
- 58:00Speaker 5: place in a made up place in Maryland. Well, yeah, no,
- 58:07Speaker 5: the Chesapeake Bay is. But I'm pretty sure that Cowridge,
- 58:10Speaker 5: Maryland does not get claradge Yeah, clarage, Yeah. I think.
- 58:15Speaker 5: I think that the town it takes place in is
- 58:18Speaker 5: made up. But I drive to Maryland between once a
- 58:24Speaker 5: week in every two weeks, and the bridge that I
- 58:28Speaker 5: cross to get into Maryland, as you're coming over the
- 58:32Speaker 5: crest of the bridge, off to your kind of forward
- 58:37Speaker 5: right hand side, there is a giant desalination plant with
- 58:42Speaker 5: the big giant ball just like in that and there
- 58:46Speaker 5: is a little kind of like car park area right
- 58:51Speaker 5: next to it that when they're shooting that establishing shot
- 58:55Speaker 5: to show you the desalination plant, like the filters and
- 58:59Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. I'm like, I've seen that one,
- 59:03Speaker 5: Like I know where that is. Granted you said it
- 59:05Speaker 5: was shot in South Carolina, so I definitely have not
- 59:08Speaker 5: seen it. But it looks so close to a thing
- 59:12Speaker 5: that I pass every day going over the Potomac River,
- 59:16Speaker 5: which is like one of the mouths of the Chesapeake Bay.
- 59:20Speaker 5: It's like, ooh, I could I could literally be watching
- 59:23Speaker 5: this happen right now.
- 59:25Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean, and that's what happens in this movie.
- 59:28Speaker 4: They established the local water has been heavily polluted the
- 59:32Speaker 4: result is a horrifying acceleration of the life cycle and
- 59:36Speaker 4: aggression of the parasitic tongue eating lice, which is fucking horrifying.
- 59:41Speaker 4: So it's like, and that's what I think, and that's
- 59:43Speaker 4: what gets under my skin pun intended. It's like, we
- 59:45Speaker 4: know that industrial pollution can alter ecosystems, we know that
- 59:51Speaker 4: agricultural runoff can massively damage the environment. We know parasites exist,
- 59:57Speaker 4: and so the Bay is literally taking like real war
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: old environmental concerns and pushing them into nightmarre territory. And
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: that's why I think. For me, I'm just like, this
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: feels so real.
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: So I will agree with you to a point. Sure,
- 1:00:11Speaker 5: But on that same note I kind of had a
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: problem with So if you're gonna make a statement in
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: a movie, sure you need to pick one statement so
- 1:00:25Speaker 5: you can make that one statement really strong. Okay, but
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: first but it goes like, oh, agricultural and industrial runoff
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: bad bad. Yeah, nuclear stuff bad bad, government corruption bad bad.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: And then when you squish them all together, you just
- 1:00:44Speaker 5: kind of get a sloppy, bad sandwich instead of them
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: hammering in one point of like, if you don't agree
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: with nuclear power, make your stamps on nuclear power. Don't
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: just like go oh it's bad. Move on. Don't just
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: go oh, industrial and agriculture runoff is bad and move on.
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: Ooh government corruption like small town government corruption bad. Move
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: on like pick one true and stick with it. Because
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: it was a combination of the nuclear runoff or the
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: nuclear reactor thing and then the agricultural thing, and then
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: just kind of happenstance. Because everybody wanted to ignore it,
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: it became a soup rather than oh, this is the
- 1:01:31Speaker 5: reason why like it. The beginning of this movie felt
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: a lot like Host for me, okay, in the sense that, oh,
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: all these dead fish, all this random shit happening. But
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: the reason why Host works.
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: Is the Korean one.
- 1:01:47Speaker 5: Yeah, the bang jun Ho one.
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I was thinking the twenty twenty Host, and
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: I was like, where would the dead fish sorry continue?
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: Yeah, no, the bang jun Hoe one. Yeah, And they
- 1:01:56Speaker 5: make it very clear like, oh, this happened because of
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: nuclear radiation blah blah blah pouring down, and they stick
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: to that one thing and that's the reason with this.
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: Like chicken steroids, for some reason affect isopods, even though
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: they don't have any of the same systems in their bodies,
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: Like isopods don't really have a nervous system like that,
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: right they they they breathe through their fucking exoskeletons Like
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: it's a it's a whole different thing. It's like, you
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: can't you can't take horse heart medication for a human.
- 1:02:38Speaker 5: It doesn't work like it'll it'll funck shit up.
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: Well, I think it's the fact that I think it's
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: the fact that it was from the chicken's actual shit
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: that is what was causing. I don't think it's necessarily
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: related to because I mean, I know the hormones were involved,
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: but I think it's because it's also that pollution of
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: excrement into the water.
- 1:02:56Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, it it because they cut to
- 1:02:59Speaker 5: this guy saying this shit at least three times. It's
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: the guy that sneaks into the chicken facility and he's
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: like handling the grain and he's like, there's so much
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: super steroid and all this shit, and it they literally say,
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: the steroids, the steroids, the steroids. Because you can take
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: these chickens what would take them from six months would
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: take them six months to do, they achieve in forty
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: two days because of the steroid ridden food, so the
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: mutation starts because of nuclear energy, then gets bad because
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: of the steroids, and then becomes deadly because of the
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: produced pollution runoff. So they can't stick to a single reason.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: And it for me at least, and I know other
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: people will be like, well, yeah, it's theming like blah
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: blah blah storytelling. For me, it just makes your whole
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: point a little flimsier because you either didn't care enough
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: to make it one thing or we're not smart enough
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: to figure out how to make it one thing, so
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: you have to combine three things together to make it
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: make sense.
- 1:04:16Speaker 4: Well, and I think like you, and I think you.
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: Shouldn't have to explain it to me to make it
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: make it. If you're explaining, you're losing in this sense.
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, I mean I kind of feel like
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: they have to explain. And because it is POV like
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: we we can't really pick up on things like we
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: normally would from a traditionally shot movie because they like
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: the camera like we kind of they kind of have
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: to tell the camera at this point. For them. I mean,
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: that's how now now I'm second guessing everything. Uh, for
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: the most part that I mean This isn't that how
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: most kind of POV things work. I mean, you're you
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: experience things with them, and you get explanation through like
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: seeing what's going on. I mean they are kind of
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: ham fisting the explanation at some points, that's for sure.
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: Well yeah, so, and I'm guessing I guess what I
- 1:05:01Speaker 5: mean is they're doing a whole lot of telling and
- 1:05:06Speaker 5: not a whole lot of showing. That's fair, like they're
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: they're showing the outcome, but the the whole Oh yeah,
- 1:05:14Speaker 5: there was there was a nuclear leak X amount of
- 1:05:17Speaker 5: years ago. We thought we had this amount of time.
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: It came up through the ground faster it was what
- 1:05:24Speaker 5: it was one line of dialogue. We never see what
- 1:05:27Speaker 5: nuclear plant they're talking about. They never show us any
- 1:05:30Speaker 5: like diagrams of anything, like if you're if you're gonna
- 1:05:34Speaker 5: throw science at us, like That's why I like the
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: oceanographers because at least they were a visual stand in
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: to narrate, Hey, this is the science that we are
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: trying to explain. Yeah, I thought, And then they show
- 1:05:51Speaker 5: the chicken facility and they're like, oh, all of these
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: chickens is what's fucking with this part of the water
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: but then the nukes just just kind of throw it
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: up in the air and hope that we accept it.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: You must have missed that. Is that the scene where
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: the like the mayor or whatever's talking and he's like,
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: this is the best water I've had and drinks it.
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: Is it that scene?
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: No, it's uh, it's when again a throwaway scene. It's
- 1:06:19Speaker 5: when Homeland Security calls the CDC and saying, yeah, we
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: sent this over to FEMA. They never responded, so we're
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: sending it back.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: To you guys. Oh yeah, okay, gotch.
- 1:06:30Speaker 5: Do you want the associated report with this?
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:06:34Speaker 5: The guy guy from the CDC says, funny enough, I
- 1:06:36Speaker 5: would love.
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: To see, like, yeah, I would actually really love to
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: see that. Uh okay, yeah, so and then yeah, I
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: mean I'm on, I'm all, I do love a movie
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: that includes that government cover up, because I mean how
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: many times oh yeah.
- 1:06:51Speaker 5: A government conspiracy always always gets at least a half
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: point extra from.
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: Me because it's like, not only is this does this
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: have and but it's just like including in the movie,
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: and because the Homeland Security guy is like, you know,
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: I think we need to put this in perspective this scope,
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: like you know, it's a small town. You know, we
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: don't need to like let this out and you're like,
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: oh god, that is something that would absolutely happen. Uh,
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: you know, dude.
- 1:07:13Speaker 5: I'm seven hundred of anything is a lot of something.
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: Don't even get me started on conspiracy theories. We don't
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: even need to go down that trail. It's exactly why
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: we didn't cover the conspiracy that's all.
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: That's a whole other that's a whole other podcast series
- 1:07:28Speaker 5: that we haven't even gotten into it.
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: Yeah. So, but uh, I think final thoughts here. I
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: do love that this movie combines found footage, body horror,
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: animal attack, isopods like it. It includes a lot of stuff.
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: You've got scientific, the scientific element, the CDC element. It
- 1:07:49Speaker 4: is a lot. But I don't ever think it's necessarily
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: too much. But it's you know, not a perfect movie.
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: I just I just enjoy the ride it takes me
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: on and I'm going to verify after I'm done with this,
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: And did you immediately to see if my copy has
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: all those weird cuts, because then that shows I need
- 1:08:05Speaker 4: to be paying much more attention to my films. Kind
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: of breaking my brain here, Final thoughts on the bay.
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: It, like I said, up tops it's wonderfully confused at
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: what it wants to do. Some of its routines it
- 1:08:25Speaker 5: really sticks the landing. Other times it missed the mark altogether.
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: A lot of the characters I really liked, a lot
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: of one or two of the characters really didn't care for.
- 1:08:37Speaker 5: It is a bizarrely toned movie because at the end
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: of the day, I have no idea what it's trying
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: to say. But also I don't think what it has
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: to say is all that important. It's more about the
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: ride that it takes you on at the end of
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: the day, Like, there is definitely a message to be had,
- 1:08:59Speaker 5: whether or not you care about that message is something
- 1:09:02Speaker 5: else entirely.
- 1:09:03Speaker 4: Very well said. And so that is a bay from
- 1:09:07Speaker 4: twenty twelve. Let's move on to the final cut. Here
- 1:09:11Speaker 4: got one tagline for you, panic feeds on fear Sure Trivia.
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: Director Barry Levinson was approached to do a documentary about
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: the Chesapeake Bay. He watched another documentary about the Chesapeake
- 1:09:23Speaker 4: Bay that talked about the pollution and lack of fish,
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: so there is some realism in there. He said. It
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: was a great documentary, but no, what do you will
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: care about it? And so he said he would take
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: all of the facts about the Chesapeake Bay and turn
- 1:09:33Speaker 4: it into a theatrical base piece. At one point near
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: the beginning, the CDC Doctor mentioned the last year two
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: thousand and eight, the year prior to the film's release,
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: there was a deadly fungal outbreak in Vancouver, BC, Canada.
- 1:09:47Speaker 4: New reports from February two thousand and eight indicate that
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: there indeed was an outbreak of deadly tropical fungus called
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: Cryptococcus gaddy, which normally infects Koala bears. Over the preceding
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: seven years, one hundred and seventy six people had fallen
- 1:10:01Speaker 4: ill and eight people had died from the reported outbreak.
- 1:10:04Speaker 4: And the Chesapeake Bay situated around the states of Maryland
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: and Virginia, with a primary outflow to the Atlantic Ocean.
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: It is some two hundred miles in length and at
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: its widest point is thirty miles wide, with an average
- 1:10:16Speaker 4: depth of twenty one feet and a catchment area of
- 1:10:19Speaker 4: sixty two or sixty four thousand, three hundred square miles.
- 1:10:24Speaker 4: So there you go, only one goof And I pointed
- 1:10:27Speaker 4: this out to Gabby during the movie. Because the events
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: take place in two thousand and nine and FaceTime has
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: brought up many a time in this movie, and I
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: was like, there's no fucking way that the iPhone was
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: invented in like two thousand and seven, And yes, FaceTime
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: did not debut until twenty ten. So that's the one
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: goof that I thought was funny. Rated five point seven
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: out of ten on IMDb, which equivalents to a two
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: point eighty five out of five for our purposes of
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: the Unimara Index, has a three point zero out of
- 1:10:59Speaker 4: five on Letterbock, seventy on the Tomato Meter, and a
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: forty four percent audience score. What did you wind up given?
- 1:11:05Speaker 3: This?
- 1:11:06Speaker 5: So after after about some deliberation one d five minutes
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: of thinking about this movie, after it ended like I
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: I genuinely had to sit and think about this RATINGA
- 1:11:20Speaker 5: because the ads fucked it up so bad for me
- 1:11:24Speaker 5: and then Donna did not help save it very much.
- 1:11:28Speaker 5: But the literal everything else about this movie was pretty good.
- 1:11:35Speaker 5: Like it wasn't bad. Was it like, oh my god,
- 1:11:38Speaker 5: this is fucking amazing, No, it is. It is a
- 1:11:42Speaker 5: wildly just above okay found footage. I ended up going
- 1:11:48Speaker 5: from a two point five up to a three because
- 1:11:52Speaker 5: I feel like it didn't have the amount of ads
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: that it had, it would have gotten a three in
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: the first place. Okay, boy, viewer, beware, just know that
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: with that level of ads it may feel like a
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: two point five.
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, fair enough. So that's a three from you,
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: three point five from me. That is a nightmare index
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: of a three point one out of five, which is
- 1:12:18Speaker 4: right on par with the Letterbox. I forgot to copy
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: and paste the nightmare index, so I'll get with the
- 1:12:22Speaker 4: corrections department on where it fell. Similar movies, according to IMDb,
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: we have Afflicted, Butterfly, Kisses, The Tunnel, Savage Land, and
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: Grave Encounters just five banger fucking found footage movies.
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: Also, none of them are like that except for found footage.
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
- 1:12:42Speaker 5: That's the only thing they have in common.
- 1:12:44Speaker 4: Oh wait, it gets even weirder with Letterbox, Quarantine and
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: reck sure Chernobyl Diaries, shockingly enough, is not found footage.
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: I everyone, I don't know. I don't know why everyone
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: thinks it is, because I did two. I rewatched it
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: recently and I was like, this is a found foot Anyways.
- 1:13:01Speaker 5: I Barbarian theaters. I saw that bitch in theaters, and
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: to this day you cannot tell me that it's not
- 1:13:10Speaker 5: found footage. This is the most Mandela effect ass movie ever. Yeah,
- 1:13:15Speaker 5: because I remember deeply this being found like they're they're
- 1:13:20Speaker 5: going in to record the fucking dogs yep, that are
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: are radioactive and just thriving in there. And then at
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: the very end you get this whole scene of them
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: like in the reactor, and the camera pans up and
- 1:13:32Speaker 5: it's like all the fucking Russians coming down and they're
- 1:13:35Speaker 5: just like gunning down the people and the camera falls
- 1:13:37Speaker 5: and that's the movie. How this is not found footage,
- 1:13:41Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: It's just truly like one of the like one of
- 1:13:45Speaker 4: like the only Mandela effects I believe in, because like
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: I see it pop up in the found footage group
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: and I'm like, guys, it's not found footage. I don't
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: know what to tell you. I'd like, it's not. I
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: swear to god it was. I always remember it being
- 1:13:57Speaker 4: found footage.
- 1:13:58Speaker 5: And then does it does it have POV sections.
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: I'm gonna, you know what, I'll do a weird double
- 1:14:04Speaker 4: feature of Spaceman and Chernobyl Diaries today and let you
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: know the other two movies, according to Letterbox that are
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: apparently similar are Barbarian and The Happening. Sure, let's do
- 1:14:15Speaker 4: some funny reviews and get the fuck out of.
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: Here, all right? I think I have five?
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: All right, I have a whole bunch of extra ones
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: just in case. I why don't you go first?
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: All right?
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: A two and a half star review from pro member
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: Sandworms cute little water bugs celebrate fourth of July.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: Hey they gotta have some fun too, right, Let's see,
- 1:14:40Speaker 4: I have two and a half stars from you Pick.
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: After seeing what was inside that fish, I think I'm
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: officially becoming a vegetarian.
- 1:14:53Speaker 5: A half star no heart from pro member Benjamin would
- 1:14:59Speaker 5: have thrown myself into the bay to escape this documentary.
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: Four star, no sorry, where the go? Uh? Here we go?
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: This is the Twin Peaks reference. Two stars from Brooklyn Fellas.
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: Don't drink that coffee. You'd never guess there was a
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: flesh eating isopod in that percolator.
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: Ship.
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: That's such a deep cut twine, deep cut. That's that's
- 1:15:31Speaker 5: not even like, oh what happened to Laura Palmer?
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: Like that's crazy crazy deep cut? Yeah, I know.
- 1:15:40Speaker 5: A half star from Livvy Boring af Ho.
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: Is that him?
- 1:15:49Speaker 5: Yeah? So I don't know if this person is saying,
- 1:15:55Speaker 5: oh yo, this move this more is boring as fuck hoe,
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: or if she is calling Donna a boring as fuck
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: ho like either way, I kind of agree.
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: But yeah, oh man, this is so funny. This is
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: a Elrick Kane. He's a podcaster. I follow. I didn't
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: realize I clipped one of his because we forgot to
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: talk about this this part of the movie. Three stars,
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: no Heart, major bummer, fourth of July for miscrustation. What
- 1:16:25Speaker 4: a fucking awful title, by the way, for a beauty pageant,
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: Miss Crust.
- 1:16:30Speaker 5: So it is absolutely hilarious though, because that is a
- 1:16:37Speaker 5: super small town style naming convention for sure. Like it
- 1:16:42Speaker 5: only if you've ever lived in a tiny like one
- 1:16:46Speaker 5: stoplight town, could you appreciate the level of hickeishness or
- 1:16:55Speaker 5: like tawny yokels, like that's the kind of shit that
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: actually exist.
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: It's not right, You're not wrong, all right? Did you
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: go through all yours?
- 1:17:07Speaker 5: No? I've got two more.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: Okay, I've got too more.
- 1:17:09Speaker 5: A five star and a heart from Skyer Egen twenty seven.
- 1:17:15Speaker 5: Skyer Eigen twenty seven decriminalized isopods criminalize agricultural waste.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: Dumping, five stars and a heart from Ama. My stomach
- 1:17:29Speaker 4: acid is too strong. I would have ate and digested
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: the bugs like gushers.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: Would. I would have hit them with the timone and
- 1:17:39Speaker 5: pumba just get squish them, and then a five star
- 1:17:46Speaker 5: and a heart from the most realistic part is that
- 1:17:49Speaker 5: it's set in Maryland.
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna do a I'm gonna pull a
- 1:17:54Speaker 4: Corey here and read this how I'm reading it in
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: my head. Uh, three stars from ethan radioactive isopods jacked
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: up on chicken chit and steroids, dot dot dot, and
- 1:18:05Speaker 4: all it took to kill them was chlorine.
- 1:18:08Speaker 5: You know, I almost picked that one.
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: I can just hear it like that's all in talk chlorine.
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: Question mark, question mark, question mark. All right, So that
- 1:18:20Speaker 4: is again the Bay. Go check it out, but maybe
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: not on Tuoby.
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: Do not like this is one of the times where
- 1:18:28Speaker 5: I will say do not support tob as a platform.
- 1:18:31Speaker 5: For the most part, they are a wonderful archives of
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: old shit like I've been watching Gilligan's Island on.
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: To be hell.
- 1:18:40Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's good ass time. But man, not for
- 1:18:43Speaker 5: this one. They will fuck your ass on some ads.
- 1:18:50Speaker 6: All right.
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: Well.
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