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Tova Noel And The Transcript From Her Congressional Testimony (Part 11) (6/24/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up where
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  we left off with tovin oh Well and her discussion
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  with Congress. Question Okay, who found mister Epstein in his cell?
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  Answer Thomas. Question Thomas, can you walk us through step
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  by step the events unfolding of discovering mister Epstein in
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  the cell? Answer? The breakfast came up, it was time
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  to feed breakfast. Thomas said that he'll do it, because
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  you know he was sleeping all night. I opened the grill.
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  Epstein is the first cell, so we started there. Thomas,
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  I'm standing out on the grill. Thomas goes in the
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  cell block, knocks on the door, doesn't get an answer
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  because he would have to come to the door to
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  receive the tray. He knocks again, He doesn't get an answer.
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  He opens the door. When he opens the door, he yelled,
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  passed me a cutter. So I hit my body alarm
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  and I go back down the stairs to go look
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  for a cutter. When you hit the body alarm, the
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  whole building's coming. Everybody's coming. When I went back up
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  to the stairs, he had already ripped because you hear
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  ripping and he was doing CPR. Question Officer Thomas was
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  doing CPR. Answer correct question on mister Epstein. Answer correct
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  question is that standard protocol? Answer no question. Why do
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  you think he started administering CPR? Answer? The standard protocol
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  is he's not supposed to open the door? Question so
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  he decided to open the door? Answer correct question. Did
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  he see mister Epstein? What did he see when he
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  looked in? Answer? Oh, I don't know. We never spoke
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  about the incident or after the incident, so I don't
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  know what he's seen, and from where I'm standing, I
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  can't see. Question at what point did you join him
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  after he hit the body alarm or before then? Answer?
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  After I hit the body alarm, I go downstairs to
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  look for the cutter, and then I came back upstairs,
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  and I could see like his feet, because by this
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  time he has him on the floor. I could see
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  his feet, but I'm still outside the grill. Foy whose feet?
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  Noel Epstein feet? Question Epstein feet on the ground. Answer
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  correct question. Did you ever go into the cell? Answer
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  no question? Did you stand outside and wait for help?
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  Answer yeah, and help came really fast? Question how fast
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  would you say, answer like five minutes. Question okay, and
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  his officer Thomas standing in the cell at that point. Answer,
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  he's on the floor with him doing CPR. Question the
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  entire five minutes answer correct. Question did mister Epstein respond
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  to the CPR at all? Answer? I don't know. Question
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  by mister Grant, You said that help derived in about
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  five minutes. Do you know who came as part of
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  the help, Noel, I don't remember everybody but Lieutenant Jean
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  and the whole bunch of other people, But I can't
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  remember exactly who Grant. Approximately how many people came, Noel?
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  Maybe like five Grant? Thank you. Now back to Miss
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  fire Bend. Question at no point during those events transpiring,
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  did you see inside the cell? Answer yeah, no question okay,
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  So just to be clear, you didn't see anything inside
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  that cell that could have been out of place. Answer
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  no question, No betting or linens. Answer no question. Did
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  you ever see mister Epstein's body? Answer when they were
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  bringing them out on the stretcher? Question how soon after
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  help arrived were they bringing him out on the stretcher?
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  Answer maybe ten minutes. Question you said he was doing CPR.
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  If either one of you discovers an inmate that requires
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  medical attention. Was there any specific procedure that you had
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  to follow? Answer as far as the shoe goes, I
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  know that you're not supposed to enter a cell alone.
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  You're supposed to like call for help and wait for
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  help and then you can start administering. But as far
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  as that, I don't know. Question do you know why
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  the procedure is that way? Answer no, I do not know. Question.
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  And you said you never spoke to mister Thomas afterward?
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  Answer no, question, so you don't know why he would
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  have gone in by himself. Answer correct. Question. After mister
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  Epstein's body was removed from the cell, well, he was
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  pronounced dead at six thirty nine am in the morning.
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  Did you what did you do after that? Answer? Next,
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  I was in the shoe for a while because everybody
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  was gone, and I was calling to ask where's my relief?
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  Because remember by this time, now it's time for me
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  to leave. Question sure answer. Psychologists came upstairs and asked,
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  did I need to speak to anyone? I said no,
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  I went downstairs after I don't remember who relieved me
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  to be honest, and then I went downstairs and the
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  lieutenant asked me what happened? But I spoke to my
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  union rep and they told me not to say anything,
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  and I left. Question who is your union rep? Answer?
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  I can't even think of his name, and I see
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  him in front of me. I can he works in
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  R and D. I'm having a blank foy tyrone? Noel?
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  Uh huh? Question that's okay. Was your union rep at
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  MCC when you were talking to him about this? Answer? Yes?
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  Question and why would he say not to talk about it? Answer?
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  I don't. I guess because the lieutenant was asking me,
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  and that's not like protocol. If you want to question
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  me like the union rep should be there. Question did
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  you leave your shift at the normal time at eight
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  am in the morning? Answer? I think it was after
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  eight am because there was not a lot going on,
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  because because there was a lot going on. Question how
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  long after eight do you think? Answer? Maybe a half
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  an hour? Question okay, were you ever told anything before
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  you were before you left? Answer? No? Question Was that
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  your last ever shift at MCC? Answer correct? Question How
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  soon after your last shift? So August tenth? Did you
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  answer questions in an interview by MCC about what happened
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  that day? Mister Foy, that was even after the OIG, right, Noel,
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  I'm thinking so it was more than two years, Noel. Yeah,
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  it was a long time ago for sure fire Bend
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  about how long if you had to guess estimate, mister Foy,
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  I'd say more than two years, because it was after OIG. Noel,
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  like about two years, Foy, more than two years, faire
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  Bend question. I know we discussed whether or that Officer
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  Thomas was sleeping while on midnight to eight am shift.
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  Correct answer correct question? How long was he sleeping? For answer?
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  So it varies because he had went upstairs at one
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  point to ten South, So I can't really say, like
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  how long he was sleeping pretty much for like the
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  duration of the shift. But at one point he left
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  and he went upstairs to ten South, and then he
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  came back and he went back to sleep. Question Okay,
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  and Officer bon Haami on the shift before that, you said,
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  I think you said he was sleeping, is that right? Answer?
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  Correct question about how long was he sleeping? For answer?
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  So he went to sleep towards the last hour or
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  maybe the like last two hours of his shift. Question,
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  And that was around the time that you had done
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  your ten pm count answer correct question. And then we
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  mentioned the ten thirty eight in the video you were
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  walking off. Was Officer BONHAMI asleep by that time? Answer
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  he was? Question okay, And to ten thirty nine when
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  we discussed the flash of orange in the video camera,
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  he would have been asleep then as well. Answer correct question, okay,
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  Thank you. Were you at any point sleeping on your
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  shift between four pm before excuse me, on the night
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  of August ninth or the morning of August tenth? Answer
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  no question. I'd like to ask a few more questions
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  about the payments. JP Morgan Chase had reported that you
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  received a total of twelve suspicious cash deposits beginning in
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  April of twenty eighteen. These were included in the most
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  recent release of the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and there's
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  been lots of reporting about them since then. JP morgan
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  suspicious activity report in the Epstein Files included the five
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  thousand dollars cash deposit that we discussed earlier in the
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  first hour, but it also included eleven deposits from an
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  unknown sender. Cash deposits under ten thousand usually are not
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  flagged as suspicious. However, they flagged all of these deposits.
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  Are you familiar with these twelve suspicious deposits that they flagged?
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  Answer so, Chase, never inform me of anything suspicious on
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  my account. When you say unknown sender, nobody deposits money
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  in my account, I do so. I don't know who
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  or what would have been an unknown sender. Question So
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  no one else had access to your JP Morgan account?
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  Answer correct question? Just you answer me correct question. There
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  was also bank records from the DOJ that showed that
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  there were seven cash deposits totaling eleven thousand, eight hundred
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  and eighty dollars that began in December of twenty eighteen.
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  Was that also from you distributing the cash deposits? Answer
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  correct question. Okay, is your testimony today that these cash
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  deposits that were flagged by JP Morgan were sent to
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  you by yourself within your own account? Answer not sent,
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  I make the deposit question deposited? Answer uh huh question,
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  and that none of these cash deposits had anything to
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  do with Jeffrey Epstein or GALLAINN. Maxwell. Answer correct question.
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  And we discussed that during the first hour. As far
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  that you knew about mister Epstein when he was incarcerated.
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  It seems at some point you learned that he was
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  a wealthy individual. Is that right? Answer? I mean I
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  knew he was high profile. Question would it be safe
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  to assume that your co workers at MCC would have
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  known that he was a wealthy individual? Answer? I don't know.
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  Question So my question is are you aware of mister
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  Epstein paying anyone else that was employed by MCC? Answer no,
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  I'm not aware of that. Foy anyone else paying any
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  employee at MCC for anything? Noell, no Emmer. You mentioned
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  earlier that there was medication that mister Ebstein had in
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  his cell that you didn't know, or that how he
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  would have had access to it? Is that correct? Is
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  it possible that an employee at MCC may have been
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  working with mister Ebstein to bring medication to him. Answer?
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  I don't know who that would be. Question Okay, I
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  know we've mentioned this before, but for the record, were
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  there any security cameras in the shoe? Answer? Yes? Question
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  how many security cameras? Answer that I don't know how many? Question? Okay,
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  where do you know there would be? Answer on the tiers?
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  Question on the upper or lower tiers? Answer there's one
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  on the upper and I'm not sure if there is
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  one on every tier, but on the tier center. Question
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  when you were working at your station, were you able
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  to see the camera footage from that station? Answer like
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  see what the camera is? Question typically, well maybe not.
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  But were you able to see a screen that showed
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  video surveillance? Answer no? Question. Would you ever see the
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  security camera footage? Answer never? Question was that handled by
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  other people? Answer? I don't know who handled it? Question
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  MCC staff, I don't know. Question so you don't know
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  whether MCC hired outside parties to install or manage? Answer yeah,
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  I don't know how that works. Question Okay, do you
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  know how often the MCC upgraded their security camera systems?
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  Answer I don't know. Question do you know whether the
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  cameras would often fail or malfunction? Answer that I don't know.
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  Question during your time in the shu the Shoe, did
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  you ever have problems with the security cameras not working?
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  Answer no question. Did you ever know about the security
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  cameras not working? No conversations other people that you would
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  have had? Answer no question. Have you ever handled anything
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  relating to security camera footage? Answer no question. Okay, all right, folks,
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  we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode,
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  we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the
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  information that goes with this episode can be found in
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