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Kyra Machida on Humiliation Ritual, J-Pop Training & Her Alter Ego | Delulu with Ryan Lu #307 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  I like started dancing and I did my splits.
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  Left Titty was a little bit out but like nobody talks about it.
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  That's the right city to have. But like.
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  Yeah. Low key, that's humiliation
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  ritual. This is all alleged.
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  Yeah, this is actually on. Wait, what's that file?
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  Oh, wait, not like that. Cut that off, but I'm not part
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  of that. Every professional in the room,
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  just immediately. Be I know.
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  Hi, Besties and welcome back to Delulu.
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  Today's guestie is AJ Pop trained western crossover pop
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  artist who is taking over the world.
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  Please welcome Kyra Machida. Hi, Kyra.
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  It's it's. You.
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  Said her right this time. Kira, Kira.
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  Machida. Machida, Yeah.
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  Kyra Machida. It's Kira.
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  Kira Machida. Wait, can we phonically go Kira
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  Kira? Like Machida?
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  Like Cheetah? Machida yeah, like Cheetah.
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  Like Cheetah and also K pop. No, K Pop.
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  It's. Oh, it's J Pop and.
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  Liam, that's boss and J Pop. OK, so.
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  J Pop song but. K Pop trained, Yeah, maybe just
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  say K. Pop.
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  Maybe do you just want to like introduce yourself then like
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  Kira Machida? Have you ever thought about
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  changing your stage name? Because I feel like it's kind of
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  hard to say. Is that racist?
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  I'm. Asian.
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  I was thinking like Georgina. Georgina, that's way easier.
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  Why don't you just try that? Should I like go change right
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  now? Let me just I'll be right back.
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  I'm going to go change. Wait, listen, guys.
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  OK, OK. Whenever you're ready.
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  Hi. Today's guest seat is Georgina
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  Machida. Thank you so much for joining
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  us. Thank you.
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  What the hell? That's good.
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  We need to use that. OK, Yeah.
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  Use that, because that was acting.
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  Wait, where's my award? Where's the Oscars?
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  I'm waiting. We need to.
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  OK, Charlie, pitch this episode to the Oscar committee.
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  Yeah, we're getting nominated. I'm waiting, I already have my
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  dress. Or an Emmy?
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  Do you? What are you gonna wear?
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  What are you? Wearing Naked Love.
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  Yeah, it's. Giving pop star just lace on my.
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  Love that, don't even do that. Nothing.
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  Nothing. Yeah, got to commit.
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  Exactly. What would Georgina do?
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  Georgina. What would Georgina do?
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  No. Georgina would show up naked.
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  She would for sure. So you got to commit.
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  But like, she'll have like a pen.
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  Oh yes, to show that she's an ally and supporting and woke,
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  yes. OK, but like on her hair?
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  Right. But it has to be like, kind of
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  small, yeah. Small, still subtle, but like
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  you. Could see how you care.
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  Exactly. OK, Georgina totally gets it.
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  She is welcome in Hollywood. Absolutely.
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  But OK, Kira, hi. Hi.
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  I'm so excited to get to know you.
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  We were literally gabbing so much prior to this.
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  Yeah, and honestly, controversial because I'm
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  supposed to be on vocal rest, but you've been gagging me so
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  I've been like, good. Keep talking, I like it gagged.
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  Yeah. Do some runs, Mariah.
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  Be afraid. She's scared she hasn't been
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  active in a minute because of me, but I don't want to get into
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  that. No, she's coming back during
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  winter time. She has to.
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  Oh, my God, I'm not doing nothing during the winter time
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  because of her. So you know what we know?
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  We know our seasons. Yeah.
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  Where is what is your season, would you say?
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  For your amazing for you? Oh.
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  My God, my season. Well, I'm an Aries first of all,
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  so springtime is usually mine. Like fiery hot, Yeah, hot
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  headed. I could only.
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  See that? But I like winter.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  I like wearing like the black button to the top.
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  I. Got that?
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  You have that dichotomy in your music too 'cause I feel like
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  your music feels bombastic, confident, like really like
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  maximal pop, right? But then also I think lyrically
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  it gets like vulnerable. It's also like talking about
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  real things, you know what I mean?
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  Like especially title track Bond.
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  We'll get into it, but I really do want to get into title track.
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  You already know, period. Well, I know so much about you
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  from researching you, but I want to get to know you so much more.
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  And I want to get to know new things I haven't heard yet.
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  But for the besties who don't know yet, tell us everything
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  about you, where you came from, how you ended up here, the
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  musical journey. I am from Japan, the countryside
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  like literally bum fuck nowhere. It takes about like 30 minutes
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  to get to the closest grocery store really.
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  And I was the. Like, far from Tokyo.
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  Yeah, it's like. 4 hours from Tokyo.
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  Got it. OK, so countryside.
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  Country, Countryside. Countryside.
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  And so like, there's like my in my town, I was the only mixed
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  person really. Yeah.
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  So you felt like you kind of like stood out.
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  You didn't necessarily fit. In OH.
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  Absolutely. I mean like.
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  You're also Italian, right? Yeah, well, like my dad's
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  Italian, Japanese and my mom is like Turkish, Filipino.
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  So it's like. Got.
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  It I'm like everything. You are.
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  Yeah, so like being like, not full Japanese was like a little
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  bit crazy in the countryside. I was literally like treated
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  like an alien. Like everybody called me alien,
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  really. Like, were you mad about that?
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  I was a little bit, but then I was like low key.
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  I'm not even gonna say this because you're, you know,
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  podcast called delulu, but TT I was low key, like delusional,
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  really like delulu. I was like.
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  You had to be delulu. They they're giving me
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  attention. Because you're a superstar.
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  Yeah, that's how I would take it.
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  That's how. I would take it.
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  No, but I was actually like delusional, right?
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  With everything you have to be. And like I would show up to
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  school with like the most outrageous outfit and like my
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  mom also like she'd be like wear Lori's jeans.
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  I was like, what? Like 7MM?
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  Hmm, Lori. She was a *.
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  She knew it, but she was also a *.
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  Right. Your mom was a singer too.
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  She was but like it was more for fun but like she knew how to
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  fucking sing the house down. Like and literally she looked
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  amazing. She's remodeling too.
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  She had long legs, curly big curly hair.
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  She was a star and I think that's where I get my attitude
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  from. Oh wait, what's her sign?
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  What is February? Pisces.
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  I think so. February 7th.
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  Birthday, February 7th. Pisces, right?
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  Yeah. Wait, that's Charlie's birthday,
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  Aquarius, and his birthday's the 8th.
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  Oh my God, next to my mom. So you're basically my mom?
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  Pretty much he's he's essentially my mom.
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  Everybody's mom. Pretty much he he'd be on top of
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  it, but OK. Yeah.
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  An Aquarius. Yeah.
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  Oh, interesting. OK, OK.
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  Are you close to your mom? Pretty close, I'd say, yeah.
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  Like a big inspiration for you when it comes to like music
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  because they were playing music in the house.
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  Oh my God. I mean, she was a big Madonna
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  fan. Oh really?
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  So I grew up listening to music and also like the Carpenters.
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  So she loved all those like, you know, iconic people.
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  And I just grew up around it. And it's funny because, like, my
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  mom's super religious, but then also she'd be the type to be
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  like, why are you wearing that long ass skirt?
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  Make it short. Oh my God, how funny.
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  Yeah, like, literally when I was a kid, like I would pose like
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  this and she'd be like, no, like, pose like this.
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  She was like you need to give cunt.
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  Right now, yeah, like cunt right now, like start early and like
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  she just like trained me. I think it all started from that
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  too. I wish my mom made me do cunt
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  stuff but whatever, we learn. You're a cunt and you like
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  created that on your own and I could tell.
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  Thank you Today's. Look is gay cowboy.
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  Thanks guys. The entire studio audience
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  erupted. You just can't hear it cuz the
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  mics are over here. But anyway, anyways thank you so
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  much. OK, so you had cunt training
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  pretty early on. I did you.
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  Told a story about how you wear stripper heels when you're 8.
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  Yes, I got my first gift from my sister's friend.
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  And I didn't know what it was, but I was like, I'm obsessed
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  with it. And also like that time I
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  started doing jazz dance and I was like, what if I do jazz
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  dance with heels and basically heel dance, Right?
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  And yeah. And I just like, started
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  strutting around the house to Madonna.
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  Oh, my God. And also this like pop queen
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  that I also grew up listening to, her name is Amurona Mie.
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  She deleted all of her music. Like I'm not even kidding why?
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  She said she's done. She's just done.
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  Yeah, I kind of got that. You know, she's like she's been
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  running that thing for like the longest time and she's like, I
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  served the country is. She a Japanese artist?
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  Yeah. She is, but heavily like I think
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  like her music is also like kind of very Western.
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  So like, it really felt home to her and she was also mixed and I
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  just like saw myself in her. You resonated, yeah.
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  Yeah, and so I was like, okay, period.
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  And so I was listening to her music, Madonnas music and all
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  these other artists, and it's been like my routine in the
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  morning, like literally every day.
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  Oh, my God. Neighbors kind of sick of me.
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  Oh, whatever. Look, they're about to get so
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  much more sick of you. Yeah.
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  They're gonna see you. Everybody went to sleep at 5:00
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  PM there. Really.
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  Why? Countryside type shit.
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  Countryside. Old people.
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  Really. Countryside.
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  Type shit. Is that not the type of shit?
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  No, because he laughed. Because he taught me that.
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  No, it's like literally that. Countryside.
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  Yeah, that's why you're giving country.
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  Oh. My God, cunt tree cunt tree tea.
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  OK, Clock I, That's why I wore this today for you.
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  I knew that. Yeah, I researched.
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  I was in your closet. You and me both, girl.
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  But now we're here. OK, love.
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  Wait, was this the artist that you saw the concert for?
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  Yes, actually. Research Boots, by the way, tell
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  us about this. So basically it was my 8th
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  birthday and I had no idea. I mean, like, I always loved
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  music, but I think, like, you know, it was my first time
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  actually seeing it live. And I was just like, so
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  confused. And I go to the concert, she
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  comes out with like, this big carousel and it's like, weird,
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  like flute, like music. And I was like, am I in
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  Disneyland? What's going on?
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  See. And yeah, I started watching her
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  and like, you know, I don't know if you know, but like, Japanese
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  people are so conservative. I didn't know like sweet, like
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  Trump, he's a conservative or like what?
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  No, they just like to keep everything to themselves, like
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  everything is a burden to other people, so.
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  It's like reserved. Very reserved and like
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  conservative in terms of like the outfits and how you talk and
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  how you are. Like demure and stuff.
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  Very demure. Totally.
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  So no type. Shit.
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  No type shit. No type shit, but you were type
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  shit. I was type shit.
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  Got you. OK, go on.
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  Yeah, And I, like, I got there and for some reason, like I
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  started seeing these Japanese people that never talk, started
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  getting on top of the chair and be like, Oh my God, yes.
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  And I was like, you're getting down.
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  Oh my God, it was different for you.
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  It was different. I was like.
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  The first time you're exposed. To that, yeah.
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  And that was my first time seeing like, oh wait, my people
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  are like having fun. Yeah, that's cool.
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  And like, and she was controlling the crowd and she
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  was dancing her ass off and she knows how to sing.
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  And I was like, I want to get on that and I want to do that.
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  I want to control and run the country.
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  Oh yeah, you are. You're the Empress of Japan.
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  I run this world. Period.
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  We love blonde world. Blonde world.
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  We'll get into it. So OK, so then you see her
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  performing and then you're kind of like, oh, this is new, this
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  is different. And you were like, I can do
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  this. Yeah.
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  Literally. Oh my gosh.
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  Yeah, and I like after the concert, I immediately told my
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  mom, before you go home, let's go to the nearest convenience
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  store. And like I had all of her songs
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  lyric printed out. Of the.
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  Day I was like immediately I was like captivated and I was.
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  Like, oh, upside down. And I printed everything I got
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  like this binders that like put hearts and like my and her photo
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  next to me. What you're manifesting I was OK
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  because you're a little witchy. I would.
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  I am. I am still witchy.
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  OK, tell us about the witchiness.
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  What's witchy? OK, we're talking about it.
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  You do like your little Azalea banks.
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  You're dancing with your little swords.
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  Yeah, you have the chickens in the closet.
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  You. Have my chickens my.
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  With us, yes, OK. Well.
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  It well it's my mom's background.
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  OK so like she's Loki high key which like she's done some sorry
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  mom, she casted some spells to people before.
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  Yes. That ended up coming to her door
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  being like please stop the spell.
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  Wait, I need to hit your mom up. I got a list for her.
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  No. Yeah.
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  I got a list for her, but OK T yeah.
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  And like she's like, don't do any of that.
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  Like just be a good person. And I'm just like, I'm totally
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  not going to listen to you. I'm like study.
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  You're like, hello. But like I've always been
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  spiritual, but I feel like I feel everything in advance.
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  I'm always like 2 steps ahead. Oh, yeah.
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  And like, I'm not even kidding. This sounds crazy.
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  I've prevented like 2 like. No.
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  I stopped it. Really.
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  Two of them. Oh my God, you're like saving
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  lives. I did I Loki.
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  I'm like superhero. No, you jet as are.
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  Wait, you. You really are.
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  I was like dead asses. Might not be the one for that.
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  You're out here saving lives. I did like I save people with
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  music and I actually physically save people.
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  Go off, girl. Oh my gosh, that is so good.
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  That's what I want to do, I think.
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  Yeah, but like, we'll see. No, you will.
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  OK, well, you might be, you just don't know.
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  OK, we'll see. We'll see.
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  But you're doing it though. You've already done it.
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  You did it. You've done it.
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  You're doing. It and it was really fun.
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  I mean not fun that I had to witness.
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  That I mean OK, but now it's fun.
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  Now it's fun. No, it's fun.
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  It's fun. Your resume is expensive.
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  Exactly. OK.
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  But yeah, I have that witchy background and I feel like I
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  have my little ritual coming up, you know?
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  Oh really? Like a humiliation ritual.
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  Kind of that too, yeah. Like everything I do is like to
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  purposefully like humiliate myself in a way which gives me
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  like this little edge. I.
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  Completely agree from the edge. I feel the same way.
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  I think the entertainment industry is just a humiliation
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  ritual. Like no, it truly is high key.
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  No, it truly is like living is humiliation ritual existing is.
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  Feeling things. Feeling things.
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  Like breathing, all of it's humiliating.
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  This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing.
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  I'm embarrassed right now. I'm embarrassed, right?
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  I'm like turning red. I'm so embarrassed.
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  Yeah. Like, Oh my God.
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  And when I didn't want to tell you this, but when we met
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  earlier today, when you came to set you who mispronounced my
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  name, but it's OK. How did you say it?
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  You were like Rihanna. I was like, it's Ryan.
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  Wait. Yeah, you're not Rihanna.
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  I am, but it's pronounced Ryan. That's what I said.
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  I got it. Rihanna.
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  I mean like you did. Yeah, wait.
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  Yeah, S&M was me. I knew that.
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  That's why you looked familiar. That's where I know you're from.
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  Yeah. Oh my God, I'm obsessed with
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  that. Thank you.
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  Big hit in the 20 tens. Oh my God, thanks.
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  Are you having a comeback, Queen?
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  Well, I don't know, it's been a while since I gone to Stew Stew,
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  but. But you gave birth.
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  I did. I did that.
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  Mommy had the kids, did the whole thing, you know what I
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  mean? So now we're just settling in.
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  This is a better gig for me. Can see the kids, you know?
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  Well, I'm honored. Thank you, Rianne.
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  I mean. Yeah, of course.
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  Ryan Ryanne. Yeah, yeah.
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  But yeah, thank you. Thank you for remembering that.
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  Of course, that was such a time. That was such a time, but now
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  you're taking over. I'm thinking over sorry you are
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  I. Don't want to compete with you?
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  Good. Yeah, because I'm going to put a
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  spell on you. Girl I'm scared, I'm literally
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  shaking right now. I'm quaking.
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  Shaking your boots. Oh, I wish you were wearing.
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  Boots. Shaking your boots.
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  You can shake for me. Shake, shake, shake.
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  I'm shaking my boots, girl. OK, well, I want to ask, I heard
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  you have a ghost story. You have ghost stories?
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  What you got for me? OK, OK, there's so many.
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  Wait, I get actually really scared.
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  Give me a good one, how react? I mean like there's like
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  multiple that like interactive like we have a ghost like like
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  back home. So you believe in ghosts?
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  Oh, absolutely. They.
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  Exist but like, they're like, they're my friends.
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  Oh, that's good. I have one.
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  There's like this child that's been falling me since I was like
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  first grade. Yeah, scary till this day.
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  Really came to LA with you. Yeah, like he he flew first
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  class though. Oh.
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  My God, he's like demure. He's a Nappa ghost.
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  He's a Nappa ghost, OK? Lucky I have a name for him, but
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  like the first time I've like encountered with him was like I
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  was coming home from my school and it my my neighbor has a
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  little bit of like a hoarder, but Oh my God, me too.
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  There's like this garage thing out there.
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  You know, they have outside and it's like a little bit open and
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  just like a boy inside the garage and this like garage is
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  like super like tiny. So you have to be really, really
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  skinny to fit OT. And so it was like this child,
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  but his skin was like so pale that I didn't know what it was
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  and I like got close. The more I get close he just
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  like starts like. You're investigating the child?
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  Yeah, I was. Wait, when was this?
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  Like how old are you? I was like literally like 70.
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  Scary. OK, keep going.
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  And like, the closer I get, he starts to like smile a little
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  bit more. And that's when I like freaked
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  out. I ran inside and I was like, mom
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  was screaming. I was like, mom let me, let me.
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  And then I never saw him since. And then I think, Fast forward,
• 16:36
  I was what, like in high school, I come home and I go back home
• 16:42
  and there's no one at home. And usually, like, everyone's at
• 16:44
  work. So yeah.
• 16:45
  And I, I do my usual routine. I turn on the karaoke at home
• 16:49
  and I just like, sing well. Yeah, it's duh.
• 16:50
  You have to loop in your blood. Yeah, exactly.
• 16:52
  Exactly. And so I turn it on and my
• 16:55
  neighbors are just like, they know the sound, like Oh my God,
• 16:57
  here we go again. And then I turn and just like
• 16:59
  the kid is sitting on the ground.
• 17:01
  Not on the couch, on the ground. Like watching?
• 17:03
  Like, yeah, just like sitting down watching.
• 17:05
  He's a fan. He's an OG fan.
• 17:06
  No, he knew. He knew that I was going to be a
• 17:09
  pop *. I mean, duh, everyone knew.
• 17:10
  Everyone, everyone knew. Oh my gosh, he gets free concert
• 17:14
  tickets for life. I mean, obviously.
• 17:15
  I should be charging him. For Afterlife but TTTT.
• 17:18
  Yeah, he's been with me for the longest time, but other than
• 17:20
  that, my aunt. But.
• 17:21
  What do you do when you see him? No, I like literally get scared.
• 17:24
  I like run out, yes. Like he's just, he's just like
• 17:27
  smiling all the time. Bitch, I'm scared you brought
• 17:29
  him to set. Wait.
• 17:31
  Shut. Up this.
• 17:32
  Shut up. Oh my God.
• 17:34
  I feel like show's over, everyone, get up.
• 17:37
  We're calling next. I do not play.
• 17:40
  But I'm religious, so like he knows that I'm.
• 17:42
  Not OK. Same we we all saw and heard it.
• 17:46
  Yeah. OK, we're good.
• 17:48
  Yeah. OK, T that's a good one.
• 17:50
  Yeah, but that's not like, fun. He's like a protector.
• 17:53
  I that's how I see it. I feel like not malicious.
• 17:55
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think ghosts are just like
• 17:58
  confused a little bit and they want something to hang on to.
• 18:01
  And I'm a great person to hang on to because I'm fun and I'm
• 18:03
  crazy. You're fun.
• 18:04
  You're doing everything. Right.
• 18:06
  Absolutely. Wait, going back to your
• 18:08
  childhood, so you know how you're saying, like in Japan,
• 18:10
  everyone's conservative, more reserved.
• 18:12
  Did you feel like you were like that too?
• 18:14
  Like growing? Up.
• 18:14
  I mean, to a certain extent maybe, but then like, I had my
• 18:19
  own little world for sure. I mean, like, I was really,
• 18:22
  really weird. Like really really weird.
• 18:25
  Me too. And it's just like all the kids
• 18:27
  were just like, not understanding also, like, I look
• 18:29
  different compared to them too. And so.
• 18:32
  But everything I did was just like, out of just exploring
• 18:36
  myself. But I didn't see what was wrong
• 18:38
  with that. And I was like, having fun.
• 18:39
  Yeah. Yeah, also, you were a kid.
• 18:41
  Yeah, I was a kid. Like, what do you expect a kid
• 18:43
  to do? Literally, I showed up to like,
• 18:45
  Oh my God, this is kind of like, crazy.
• 18:46
  But in the countryside we're not really aware of like anything
• 18:50
  that's happening. In the Western.
• 18:52
  Side, you know, except really, music.
• 18:53
  My mom was tuned in because Madonna.
• 18:55
  Madonna I. Mean.
• 18:57
  I mean, I ignore that but. Global Icon.
• 18:59
  Yeah. But other than that, outside
• 19:01
  that, like we had no clue of anything at all.
• 19:04
  Like we didn't know who the presidents were and all that
• 19:06
  stuff. That's kind of nice.
• 19:08
  Like we have no idea, especially in the countryside.
• 19:10
  People like dream about disconnecting like that, you
• 19:12
  know, but you know when you're in it, I feel like I would want.
• 19:14
  I was so sheltered growing up, like extremely sheltered, like I
• 19:17
  knew nothing about pop music or anything or pop culture.
• 19:20
  So sheltered, so crazy sheltered.
• 19:22
  So when I started like discovering and I was like,
• 19:24
  what? I'm a what did you?
• 19:25
  Discover like. At what age?
• 19:26
  I would say 19. Wow, genuinely, like I just
• 19:30
  didn't. Well, OK, 14 I would say.
• 19:32
  Like I would say like when I went to high school and then
• 19:34
  people were like talking about Lady Gaga and shit and I was
• 19:36
  like, OK. But then when I was like 19, I
• 19:38
  like, really left my house and I was like, wait, I live like, I
• 19:42
  love this. This is my purpose.
• 19:43
  This is it. Yes.
• 19:44
  And this is what I wanna do, too.
• 19:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:46
  Did you ever have that moment where you were like, I wanna do
• 19:48
  this too, I wanna entertain like you're seeing Madonna.
• 19:50
  You have the carpenters in your house.
• 19:51
  I think I've always, I knew that's what I wanted to do.
• 19:53
  But I think like that moment of going to the concert was the one
• 19:56
  where I was like, oh, like this is my purpose.
• 19:59
  Like I knew that. But like this is like then you
• 20:02
  know a clear evidence. So then from seeing that concert
• 20:05
  being 8 years old going to eventually signing with a label
• 20:08
  isn't is it in Japan? Yeah, it was in Japan.
• 20:11
  I was visiting my sister out here now, like, because she also
• 20:13
  did music. She was a writer, and she was
• 20:15
  getting into sessions. And then I got scouted.
• 20:18
  And they were like, oh, do you want to go to Japan?
• 20:19
  And I'm like, I'm actually from there.
• 20:21
  Yeah. And so, like, when I got back
• 20:23
  home, my parents had no idea what was happening.
• 20:25
  I was just like, oh, apparently I'm going to have like.
• 20:27
  You're like, my life just changed, but yeah.
• 20:29
  It's. Changed like.
• 20:30
  I'm never going to talk to you guys, just kidding, but I.
• 20:33
  Got that girl? Yeah, like I had a couple of
• 20:36
  meetings and I signed with the label Japan and I had like a
• 20:40
  trial session thingy where for like 2 months I had to go back
• 20:47
  and forth from my town all the way to Tokyo every single day.
• 20:51
  And I like started doing a little training.
• 20:53
  Yeah, it was kind of, I thought that was it.
• 20:54
  I was like, Oh my God, like, here we go.
• 20:56
  Yeah, we're getting it going. Yeah, but that was just.
• 20:58
  To try. I was 14 so I moved out.
• 21:00
  You're so young. Yeah.
• 21:01
  I moved out on my own when I was 14.
• 21:03
  Oh shit, that's the pop star life though you honestly have
• 21:06
  to. Just do it.
• 21:07
  You have to do. It like don't think about it,
• 21:09
  don't be scared because like once you're scared like why are
• 21:11
  you doing it A. 100%, you know, you got to be delulu about it,
• 21:15
  yeah. You have to be delulu about it.
• 21:16
  You have to have like tunnel vision and stuff.
• 21:18
  But like, yeah. And I was just like, OK, I'm
• 21:20
  going to go. And so I took the train that was
• 21:23
  like a four hour ride every single day.
• 21:25
  Really. How early would you get up for
• 21:26
  it? So like the train left at like
• 21:29
  6:00 AM and then I come home around like like 11-12.
• 21:34
  You were so about that life. I was and I was like a kid.
• 21:38
  That is so. Crazy.
• 21:39
  Yeah. And I was like.
• 21:40
  That's so much. But I was just like enjoying it.
• 21:42
  I was like, Oh my God, this is the ride.
• 21:44
  This is like the thing. Oh my God, yes.
• 21:45
  And turns out that was just a trial, OK.
• 21:49
  And so. So what does that mean?
• 21:50
  What happens? After that, I was like, OK, so
• 21:52
  we're gonna start recording. They just wouldn't let me
• 21:54
  record. It was just like, really dance,
• 21:56
  dance, dance, dance. Wait, so they're training you
• 21:58
  but they wouldn't let you? Like make.
• 21:59
  No, no, no, no, no. It's just like, I think we all
• 22:02
  started from, like, the basics of it all, which I thought that
• 22:04
  was it. I was like, OK, this is easy.
• 22:06
  Yeah. And until they were like, OK,
• 22:08
  we're going to fly you to Korea. You're going to live there for
• 22:10
  like a year and a half, like on your own.
• 22:12
  You have one week to learn how to speak and write and read in
• 22:15
  Korean. No way.
• 22:16
  How was your like K pop trained? Yeah.
• 22:19
  Like. Literally like the whole K pop
• 22:21
  thing. So I like, I was still 14 and
• 22:26
  when I first went to Korea, I was just having fun, you know,
• 22:29
  getting to know the city. It's beautiful.
• 22:31
  People are nice or it's fun. Food is amazing.
• 22:34
  Is it? Super different from like
• 22:35
  countryside Japan. Oh, absolutely.
• 22:36
  I mean, like, I see a little bit of like similarities in terms of
• 22:39
  like the city in Tokyo, but also it's like completely like
• 22:43
  different. Was it like a big culture shock
• 22:45
  for you? No, it's like same thing but
• 22:47
  different font. Got it.
• 22:48
  So you're like, I know what I'm expecting.
• 22:50
  Here I know what I'm expecting, but also like their mannerisms
• 22:54
  different, the way they carry them, how you know everything is
• 22:57
  like a little bit. Different.
• 22:58
  Wait, do you speak Korean? A.
• 23:00
  Little bit, yeah. Got it.
• 23:00
  Because they were training you. Yeah, because I remember you.
• 23:02
  I was watching your blonde ambition doc you and you said
• 23:05
  you had like 4 hours of Korean every day.
• 23:07
  Yeah, I did. Like they literally gave me one
• 23:10
  week to learn. So I had to like get that down
• 23:13
  and a good thing my frontal lobe was like not fully developed yet
• 23:16
  or else I would have been. You're fucked.
• 23:19
  Yeah, that. Wouldn't have happened, right?
• 23:21
  Don't teach me Korean. Yeah.
• 23:23
  I was like, I wouldn't know. But yeah, I learned how to speak
• 23:25
  and write and read in like one week and which was tough, but it
• 23:30
  also gave me like, the advantage to also communicate with the
• 23:33
  girls. Like I was being trained solo
• 23:35
  and solo only but except for dance I was with other girls and
• 23:41
  they like debuted and. Yeah, they did.
• 23:44
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 23:44
  Like black, pink. Kind of like that.
• 23:47
  You just say it was black pink. Oh my God, that's so cool you
• 23:50
  turned to black Pink. Yeah, actually they were my
• 23:52
  sisters. Oh my God, you were gonna be the
• 23:54
  5th member. Yeah, I was, but I was like, I
• 23:56
  gotta go. I got it.
• 23:57
  I got it. You're like, no, I'm gonna do
• 23:59
  not for me. I got it.
• 24:00
  Yeah, I got it. Good.
• 24:01
  For you, but I think I'm in a different shade.
• 24:04
  And look at you. Yeah, I'm in a hotter pink.
• 24:07
  You're in a hotter pink. You're in a blonde, if you will.
• 24:11
  OK. He's sick.
• 24:11
  So you're doing this rigorous training.
• 24:13
  Yeah. So you said in this, the Blonde
• 24:15
  Ambition documentary that we were talking about, you learn
• 24:17
  Korean for a few hours. You go to the gym, you have a
• 24:19
  little lunch, then you have dance, then you have a vocal
• 24:20
  lesson, then you do a session. And you would have a day off
• 24:22
  every two months. Yes.
• 24:24
  Oh girl, you know everything. I took notes.
• 24:26
  I took no. Shit, were you part of my team?
• 24:29
  I might as well have been. I would have worked you a little
• 24:32
  harder. Not going to lie.
• 24:32
  Actually, that's such a lie. I'm being worked really hard
• 24:35
  right now. Oh, yeah.
• 24:36
  Because I'm like, wait, this is my schedule.
• 24:39
  Yeah, that's your schedule. Like this is my schedule girl.
• 24:42
  I'm I'm you. So I'm a Rihanna.
• 24:44
  You are. I love SNL.
• 24:45
  Wait, and then you're Georgina. I'm Georgina.
• 24:48
  Wait, Yeah, you didn't see me at the Emmys with the little pin
• 24:50
  maybe. No, I saw that.
• 24:51
  I saw that. Yeah, it was.
• 24:52
  It was a moment. I was gonna like tackle you and
• 24:54
  like, put like powder. Oh, tea flower bomb.
• 24:57
  Oh, tea. Wait, that's good press.
• 25:00
  Yeah, I know. Let's do it next time.
• 25:01
  We used to do it. OK, wait, what's the next award
• 25:03
  show? We're doing the Academy Awards,
• 25:05
  right? Yeah, let's just do that.
• 25:06
  OK, I'll text. You we should show up in the
• 25:08
  same pin. Oh yeah.
• 25:09
  Yeah. I'll have it.
• 25:11
  And we'll like, we'll do the Spider Man thing, yes.
• 25:13
  And then we'll just Duke it out. OK, got it.
• 25:15
  That's amazing. OK, best Georgina wins.
• 25:17
  OK clock. OK T Well, I'm living that life
• 25:20
  right now. It's exhausting.
• 25:22
  It's exhausting. It's so tiring.
• 25:23
  What's your schedule like now compared to?
• 25:25
  That that's fun. You have a better attitude than
• 25:27
  me. I will listen.
• 25:28
  Literally my PA was talking to us about this earlier.
• 25:31
  I will do everything. I just need to complain.
• 25:34
  I just need to complain. OK for me I feel like once I
• 25:39
  complain that I'm losing to myself like I'm like the best
• 25:42
  enemy is myself and myself only and if I'm like weak and pussy
• 25:46
  to myself then I. Don't want them pussy.
• 25:49
  Should I stop complaining? You should.
• 25:51
  No, but like you can, but like right about OK, turn it into a
• 25:54
  song. I will.
• 25:56
  And then that's where you're like trauma dump everything.
• 25:58
  Oh, that's where it's gonna go. But like the.
• 26:00
  Channel it's so fun like making such pop songs and like the song
• 26:04
  is like literally like yeah ending.
• 26:07
  Myself. Oh, tea.
• 26:07
  That's what I like about pop music.
• 26:09
  I love pop music with substance. Yeah, like, like the dark
• 26:11
  undertone to it. Like that's my favorite.
• 26:13
  Part me too. I like a really bright, like
• 26:16
  production, Yeah. And I like a dark lyric.
• 26:18
  Exactly. And I feel that I see that a lot
• 26:20
  with you too. And it's more like edgier, too.
• 26:22
  And you get to know the person doing how they deal with
• 26:24
  problems. And like, I am such an avoidant
• 26:26
  person. Really.
• 26:27
  Extremely. Yeah.
• 26:28
  Like that's what I love about myself.
• 26:30
  Oh my God, really? I felt so confrontational.
• 26:33
  Really. Yeah, well, like I'm avoiding in
• 26:35
  a sense, like only to myself. Got it.
• 26:37
  So like if I feel some type of weight and I'm about to cry, I'm
• 26:39
  like, no, really. Yeah, I keep that stuff to my
• 26:43
  you want. To repress that.
• 26:44
  Yeah. Oh, you should feel it.
• 26:46
  But like, I feel it when I go to the studio.
• 26:48
  Got it. That's when I like, let it all
• 26:50
  out because I'm like, saving it. Yeah, that's my therapy.
• 26:52
  That's why I don't believe in therapy.
• 26:53
  I mean, you don't because I am my own therapist.
• 26:56
  Exactly, therapy is the music. No, literally 100%.
• 26:59
  I can't do anything without music.
• 27:01
  Like I cannot wash my face without music.
• 27:04
  I completely understand that. Yeah.
• 27:05
  Wait, OK, question about that then.
• 27:07
  So you come out to LA, you do the J Japan label, you come out
• 27:11
  to LA. Yeah, you're doing Tik Toks now.
• 27:14
  So then you take a little break for music.
• 27:16
  Yeah, I did. I mean, like it was also like
• 27:19
  that time of like 2020 COVID. Oh yeah.
• 27:21
  You know. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:22
  And I did some like covers and stuff, but I'm such a visual
• 27:27
  person. Even when I like write songs,
• 27:29
  like it's always like me too. Not to be Cynthia, but I see
• 27:34
  like colours and stuff and like, you know.
• 27:36
  That's so funny. But.
• 27:39
  What colour is this? Pink.
• 27:42
  Yeah. But you know Queen, I love her.
• 27:46
  Queen an icon. Queen, Queen, queen.
• 27:49
  No, but I'm not a colour like that.
• 27:51
  I see. Like the music video.
• 27:54
  Yeah, me. Too I'm visual too.
• 27:56
  Extremely and so like with that being said, like I've always
• 28:00
  loved editing videos too. Like, I remember when I was a
• 28:02
  kid, I used to make like, I don't know if you did this, but
• 28:04
  like, you know, like a iMovie, you could make trailers.
• 28:07
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:07
  Yeah. Like I did that.
• 28:08
  I do like force. Yes.
• 28:10
  I forced my cousin. You're just creative.
• 28:12
  I was creative and I knew I wanted.
• 28:14
  I was like, OK. I just want to be in control.
• 28:16
  Oh, sane. And like, yeah, very Aries of
• 28:18
  you. Yeah, and I just like did that
• 28:19
  and forced my cousin I we made like horror movies.
• 28:22
  Oh, cute Bollywood trailer. Bollywood girl.
• 28:25
  Damn you, international. Yeah, you out here, I'm tapping
• 28:28
  into everything. You are.
• 28:29
  You're appealing to every market.
• 28:31
  Yeah, you. Love them.
• 28:33
  You can do an Afrobeat song. Exactly love next EP.
• 28:35
  Next EP when we'll talk about that, we'll talk about that.
• 28:39
  So you're doing Tik Toks now? Yeah, I'm doing Tik Toks now.
• 28:41
  I mean like, not now. Well.
• 28:43
  Not now you're doing tik toks then, Ben.
• 28:45
  Ben still is a little bit, but like, yeah.
• 28:48
  And I had a great time doing it too.
• 28:49
  But I started like getting away from music and I was like, wait,
• 28:53
  like it's, it's fulfilling in a way that I get to like express
• 28:56
  and like, you know, make videos like aesthetically pleasing and
• 28:59
  it's like fun and all, but it's just like it.
• 29:01
  Was never Yeah, it wasn't what you.
• 29:04
  It wasn't fulfilling from me and like I got a lot of traction off
• 29:07
  of that. Like people loved it and some
• 29:08
  people know me from that, but like that's not me.
• 29:13
  Like, they weren't getting to know the person that I wanted
• 29:15
  them to see me as. And so, like, like, as much as I
• 29:18
  enjoyed it, as much as I met a lot of people, it was just like,
• 29:21
  wait, you don't know my lure? Yeah, totally.
• 29:23
  And like, that's my fault for not showing it to you.
• 29:25
  But like, now I'm gonna go back to myself real quick.
• 29:29
  Yeah, exactly. And I'm gonna stay there.
• 29:30
  Like refining yourself too cuz I think I jumped ahead though.
• 29:33
  Like what happened with the label in Japan and everything
• 29:36
  you're doing cuz? And how did you end up in LA?
• 29:39
  Well, the training was like a little bit crazy for me in a
• 29:42
  good way. And I've learned so much and
• 29:44
  like so thankful for everything. But it's just like, I think
• 29:47
  musically it was going a different route, you know?
• 29:50
  And also like, I had a moment where I, not going to lie, like
• 29:54
  I revelled a little bit. Yes, T very areas of you.
• 29:57
  You know, like I would, it would be like, we need you for this
• 30:00
  time, for this important session.
• 30:03
  And I ditch and like go to the club.
• 30:05
  Oh my God. And I was like 1617, what am I
• 30:07
  doing? Yeah, but I.
• 30:09
  Didn't want to do that. No, I think I wanted to.
• 30:12
  Like, I felt like I, they literally gave me a lobotomy.
• 30:16
  That's what I felt like. And I was like, wait.
• 30:19
  And I've never been around kids my age that time too.
• 30:21
  So like 14 to 18, I was only around men in suits and men in
• 30:25
  suits only. And so with that being said,
• 30:28
  when they told me, OK, go to high school just for the looks
• 30:30
  of it, I was like, but I actually want to go and see
• 30:34
  like, what kids my age are doing.
• 30:36
  Yeah. Because you don't have like a
• 30:37
  frame of reference. Yeah, like nothing at all.
• 30:39
  So like, and then I started making friends and then, you
• 30:43
  know, every teenager they started going clubbing and all
• 30:46
  that. And so that's why I also
• 30:47
  discovered like the underground scene in Tokyo, which a lot of
• 30:50
  my music get inspired from, like, you know, I could totally
• 30:55
  production wise. I could totally hear that.
• 30:57
  And it's just like, that's where I felt like so good about myself
• 31:00
  and also like, also, why the fuck not like bring that
• 31:04
  training to the club A. 100%. I was like dancing my ass off in
• 31:08
  the middle of a dance floor. Like I.
• 31:09
  Mean you were trained. For it I was trained.
• 31:10
  For it you were trained. For it you got to do.
• 31:12
  It you had to perform, yeah. Exactly.
• 31:15
  I had to provide that. I'm like, I'm a performer and
• 31:18
  people need to see this. And so I poured it all out in
• 31:21
  there. I mean, like I did, you know,
• 31:23
  with the training. But I was like, I've always been
• 31:26
  like, kept in. And so I was like, people need
• 31:29
  to see me. And so I was like, spread my
• 31:31
  wings. Oh, yeah, at the dance floor,
• 31:34
  100% outside. You got to do it.
• 31:36
  You had to do it. I mean, especially if they're
• 31:38
  training you and like you felt like they weren't even, like you
• 31:40
  weren't even getting to the output anyways, yeah.
• 31:42
  You know what I mean? We were preparing for it, but.
• 31:44
  Did you ever get there? Nothing came out.
• 31:47
  We had like stuff ready, like literally, and right before it
• 31:49
  was right, I like left. But before that, I was on tour
• 31:52
  with their artists over there, which it was amazing.
• 31:55
  And I was like, I think you're. The background singer.
• 31:57
  Yeah, that's right. And I was like my when I was 17,
• 32:01
  I was like, Oh my God, this is so cool.
• 32:02
  Like I get to sing and like also know how it feels to be on top,
• 32:06
  like you're on stage and like, you know, see the crowd and how
• 32:09
  it moves and everything. So I learned so much about just
• 32:12
  like the whole. It's just a big learning
• 32:13
  experience for. You it was.
• 32:15
  Yeah, especially being so young too.
• 32:17
  Yeah, but I felt like I had like this like secret identity that I
• 32:21
  kept it on my label and I enjoyed that.
• 32:23
  Like I, I was like Hannah Montana.
• 32:25
  Like I literally say. You're like Hannah Montana.
• 32:27
  I. Was.
• 32:28
  That's so cool, though. Yeah.
• 32:29
  Oh, they should have a movie like that.
• 32:31
  OK. We'll find it.
• 32:32
  No. Oh, me.
• 32:33
  Cast me. Yes, yes.
• 32:35
  I mean, I was actually going to play you.
• 32:37
  Oh wait, do it with blonde hair. Yeah.
• 32:43
  Hey, guys. We'll understand in 2027.
• 32:45
  Yeah, we'll, we'll come. Back to it.
• 32:47
  Love it, love it. OK.
• 32:48
  I'm going to play you, OK. OK, cool, cool.
• 32:50
  Cool, got your blessing. It'll be your biopic.
• 32:52
  Yeah. Your boots.
• 32:54
  Slap heels always boots. Yeah, I'm black bunned up.
• 32:57
  Lace titties a little bout. Little titty titty.
• 33:01
  Yeah, little titty. A little titty.
• 33:03
  Little pin. Yeah, little pin.
• 33:05
  I got it. I got you.
• 33:07
  I could be you. Yeah, I pre like I'm pretty much
• 33:09
  real but Oh my God I literally feel like I'm you.
• 33:12
  You are me. I was researching you and I was
• 33:14
  telling, I think Charlie this morning.
• 33:16
  I was like, I told Brett I was like, she is too similar to me.
• 33:19
  Is this a conflict of interest? Really.
• 33:22
  Literally the vaccine person. No, we are.
• 33:24
  We are. You're crazy.
• 33:25
  I'm crazy. And Ashley Blonde, we're Asian,
• 33:28
  we're pop stars. Yeah.
• 33:29
  I was like. Why?
• 33:30
  Don't you 2 teddy bears like I'm holding this?
• 33:32
  We're literally pretty much in the exact same outfit but like
• 33:34
  opposite. You're interviewing yourself
• 33:35
  right now. I hope you.
• 33:36
  Feel like I am. Yeah, this is so.
• 33:38
  Fun for me. Finally I was telling everyone I
• 33:41
  was like I should be the one getting interviewed why I doing
• 33:44
  this but. We can switch position later on.
• 33:47
  We should. Oh my God, yes, I love averse
• 33:49
  situation. Good.
• 33:51
  Well anyways, so OK, so now you're out in LA and then you
• 33:54
  end up signing with Sound Factory.
• 33:56
  So you tell the story in your docu, you were saying that you
• 33:59
  got Adm, but you didn't notice it for like a year.
• 34:02
  Oh. Oh, he's oh attitude no, like,
• 34:06
  Oh, my manager's sassy. OT he's.
• 34:08
  Just like me, Mac. Otude.
• 34:10
  Yeah, he's an Aries. Makitude.
• 34:12
  Oh, I love that makitude, you. Should trademark Mac attack
• 34:14
  Makitude? Oh, you're like spitting bars?
• 34:17
  I am girl. We're in a session right now.
• 34:20
  Who's the? Producer Charlie, do you want to
• 34:22
  produce? Charlie, produce for us, please.
• 34:26
  Anyways, yeah, I didn't see the yeah, Mac's the one the DNA, but
• 34:29
  I didn't see it for a year. No, I didn't see it.
• 34:34
  The. Obligation is crazy.
• 34:35
  Her manager said that she saw it and ignored it.
• 34:38
  Y'all. No, my red receipt was off so I
• 34:44
  did not see it. Wait, how did you find it
• 34:46
  eventually? OK, so during that time I was in
• 34:50
  my influenza era and I was just like, didn't I feel like I it
• 34:53
  was a different kind of crowd and so I didn't really look at
• 34:55
  my DM it. Completely is a different kind
• 34:57
  of crowd. Absolutely.
• 34:58
  I'm so way happier right now. Really just like my home and
• 35:02
  like people, like my stands and everything.
• 35:04
  My fans are like, amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's a different
• 35:06
  world. It's my girls in my period.
• 35:08
  Exactly. So, but yeah, it was just like a
• 35:11
  different crowd. So I was like, no, never looked
• 35:13
  at it. And then I saw one and I was
• 35:16
  like, wait, is this a scam? Lt.
• 35:18
  But like he also emailed me other than yeah, like and I was
• 35:21
  like. A year prior to.
• 35:23
  I think so. Was it?
• 35:25
  I'm not too sure. He was patient, he was.
• 35:27
  I would have given up. Me too.
• 35:29
  Honestly, I'm so impatient. I'm like, fuck this bitch.
• 35:32
  I'm a go like this bitch. Who is she 100%?
• 35:35
  But no, he was very patient. OK, T and so yeah.
• 35:39
  And then I like responded. I was like, I hope this is not
• 35:41
  too late, like a year later. Yeah TTT.
• 35:44
  I was like, oh, hey, hey, hey, how?
• 35:46
  Are you doing? Yeah, literally.
• 35:50
  And I was like, I'm going to show up.
• 35:52
  And so like I got to the studio and I had meeting with him and
• 35:55
  like the team and I like we clicked immediately.
• 35:58
  I was a little bit skeptical at the same time.
• 36:00
  Like I was a little bit scared though, you know, I'm just a
• 36:03
  girl and just. Like.
• 36:05
  I was also getting to know LA, you know, like I've obviously
• 36:10
  like went out, but like also it was kind of close to COVID era,
• 36:16
  I think. So I was just like.
• 36:18
  In your influencer era was when this happened, yeah.
• 36:20
  Got it. And so, yeah, I was a little bit
• 36:23
  nervous and I just like, didn't know, but I just knew that I had
• 36:25
  to just like, trust it, you know?
• 36:27
  I mean, I like risks. Like I enjoy the risks.
• 36:29
  I get that. Like that's where I live.
• 36:31
  Like literally, yeah. And yeah.
• 36:34
  And I just like, got right into it.
• 36:36
  And I like, we started off with like having sessions like couple
• 36:39
  times like a month, but I felt like I was such on a different
• 36:44
  like zone and just like completely different from where
• 36:47
  I am right now. Yeah.
• 36:48
  But yeah, I was just like finding the sound.
• 36:50
  Like I thought I knew my sound. Yeah.
• 36:53
  Until like I look at it now, I'm like, OK, that was like a little
• 36:57
  bit. Everyone tells me this.
• 36:59
  They're always like, you're finding your sound.
• 37:01
  I'm like, this is my sound though, so I'm like I don't
• 37:03
  know. Yeah.
• 37:04
  Well, The thing is like, well, at least for me, Bill, I thought
• 37:08
  that was my sound. Yeah.
• 37:09
  And I what was it? It's.
• 37:10
  Like what kind of music was it? Like R&B?
• 37:15
  Yeah, summer. Walker.
• 37:17
  Summer Walker. Really.
• 37:18
  Yeah, I could see that. Kidding.
• 37:19
  I feel like you bring some of that to your music now though.
• 37:22
  I. Think I think it's because I
• 37:24
  just love being like this sultry, like sexy, like
• 37:26
  mysterious, yes siren. And I was like, wait, that saw
• 37:30
  me like my music should like, you know, sound like how I look.
• 37:34
  But then because I love making music where I could see yeah,
• 37:38
  you know, and it's very visual and so yeah, I thought that was
• 37:42
  it until like I tapped into like way different stuff and also
• 37:46
  like it still is me yeah, because it's like I literally
• 37:49
  like the music that I grew up listening to was like very
• 37:52
  electronic. I'm in Madonna exactly
• 37:53
  electronic. And that's like the emunah me
• 37:55
  stuff is also electronic. And I'm like, wait, why didn't I
• 37:58
  see that? Like that's me.
• 38:00
  That's your. Influences too yeah, you know
• 38:02
  what? That's reassuring to me because
• 38:03
  the music I do is the music I feel like I grew up on, which
• 38:06
  was like, yeah, Ke$ha and like Gaga and Katy Perry and like the
• 38:10
  Pop girls and myself was SNM, Rihanna, but yeah, yeah, the.
• 38:14
  Girlies, the girlies, the girlies.
• 38:15
  Yeah. And I feel like, I mean, I
• 38:17
  wouldn't say I got distracted, but I definitely loved.
• 38:20
  I think it was more like the melody choices that all these
• 38:22
  like beautiful R&B artists that that like really I got, you
• 38:27
  know, I was so captivated by. Yeah, of course.
• 38:29
  And so. Yeah.
• 38:30
  And I just like, started doing that, but like now it's
• 38:33
  completely different. So.
• 38:34
  Oh. My God.
• 38:35
  Well, I mean, you bring that to the your music now though.
• 38:37
  Yeah, Because you would describe your music as like, what would
• 38:39
  you say, right? Now I'd say I'm melody wise.
• 38:42
  I'm such a melody girl. Like when I'm in a session I
• 38:45
  will hop into like the booth and just like I'll do.
• 38:49
  Whatever your passes and. Your life I'll do my passes I'll
• 38:52
  come up with, but like it's always been so strong and like I
• 38:54
  feel like to me it's like it's me, you know, and.
• 38:59
  It's coming straight from. You too yeah it's like coming
• 39:01
  straight to me so I think like production wise I'm more
• 39:03
  electronic dance music and the melody is like this like
• 39:07
  different flowy and I think like you would love my melody choices
• 39:11
  because you're like a very dreamy and I love harmony I.
• 39:14
  Think because you have that R&B influence, especially
• 39:16
  melodically because I would describe your music as cunt pop.
• 39:18
  You know what I mean? Yeah, Punt.
• 39:21
  Pop Pulu. Yeah.
• 39:22
  You know exactly that, but also like the melodies are very like
• 39:26
  deep. They're like the.
• 39:27
  Moves. They're very.
• 39:28
  Lush, you know they flow. I love, I also grew up listening
• 39:32
  to Imogen Heap and Oh yeah, totally.
• 39:35
  Especially when I was like 12. I'm not even kidding after
• 39:38
  because I was like heavily bully growing up.
• 39:40
  Oh my God. And so like, I would go home.
• 39:43
  I would go home. I play this song.
• 39:46
  Just for now, clean. I forgot what it.
• 39:49
  Was OK, but imagine he oh, half life.
• 39:52
  There you go. Yeah, it's half life class.
• 39:54
  That was my favorite and nobody talks about that and because she
• 39:58
  became like a big trend like especially last year.
• 40:01
  Yeah, she has, because there was like a bunch of those TikTok
• 40:03
  trends. Yeah, yeah, but they don't even
• 40:05
  watch her. No, they don't know.
• 40:07
  And they're like, I'm sad but. You're going to bring respect to
• 40:09
  her name. She's like one of my.
• 40:11
  Greatest. Inspiration in terms of like
• 40:13
  harmonies and that's where I take a lot of my, I guess
• 40:16
  choices. It's just like really in, in my
• 40:18
  DNA 100%. And she has that electronic
• 40:20
  thing too. Yeah, so she's just amazing.
• 40:23
  So cool. So then when you were
• 40:24
  discovering your sound, you're doing.
• 40:26
  Like these R&B type music initially, How did you start
• 40:29
  shifting into like where you are now AMI, honestly.
• 40:33
  I think I started off with like my first single Connect was like
• 40:36
  very drum and bass heavy, but also I think it's I was also
• 40:40
  listening to drum and bass stuff that time isn't that interesting
• 40:43
  because I find like when I'm in. Sessions, it's always like when
• 40:45
  I'm listening to then it's like I want to do something like
• 40:47
  this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:49
  yeah. But.
• 40:49
  Like sometimes like see that's the thing.
• 40:51
  I don't really, I don't really listen to music really I don't
• 40:56
  same. So recently I haven't either.
• 40:58
  I really just listened to my demos exact same like not.
• 41:01
  To be like self obsessive. But it's just like, I don't
• 41:04
  know, I don't really love, especially if I'm working on an
• 41:07
  EP or like an album or something, I don't, yeah, I want
• 41:10
  to be in my moment. And like, maybe like I would
• 41:12
  listen to like the producers, like production that he worked
• 41:15
  on something and would be like, OK, that's cool.
• 41:16
  Like can we bring this? But usually I like to just like
• 41:20
  create something that's like authentic to myself.
• 41:23
  So like really like original to. You, yeah 'cause I don't want
• 41:26
  too many outside influences bleeding into my sessions
• 41:28
  either. Absolutely.
• 41:29
  Yeah, You know what I mean? Like I really wanted to be like.
• 41:30
  This is what I'm feeling this. Is what I'm thinking in this
• 41:32
  direction I want to take it. So I totally get that.
• 41:34
  I feel like growing up, we're all.
• 41:36
  Like taking a pieces of like all these amazing artists and that's
• 41:39
  enough for me. Me too.
• 41:41
  Exactly like that's enough for. Them I'm not referencing
• 41:43
  anything. In this.
• 41:44
  Decade. Yeah.
• 41:45
  Everything's like the previous decade that I grew up with, that
• 41:47
  I love and, like you said, like Madonna and like listening to
• 41:50
  that. Growing up like that shows, you
• 41:52
  know? Yeah.
• 41:53
  Because I feel like your blonde project can feel very
• 41:55
  confessions, you know, It is very confessional.
• 41:58
  Honestly, but it's also almost like I'm being a little bit like
• 42:02
  gimmicky into really. Yeah.
• 42:04
  What? You feel that way?
• 42:05
  No. No, no, no, no.
• 42:06
  Like I feel like that's a character that I.
• 42:08
  Played on that, really for the blonde project.
• 42:10
  Yeah, I'm going to. Talk about that.
• 42:11
  That's actually a question I have here.
• 42:13
  So basically I was wondering because like you said, you lived
• 42:17
  in this blonde world, you had bleached your hair, you're going
• 42:20
  out a lot, you're partying, you're like living this like a
• 42:22
  static thing. I was like, is this a character
• 42:24
  or do you feel like that's true to you?
• 42:26
  It's definitely true to me. I think like when I.
• 42:28
  First moved to LA, like tracing it back, yeah, I feel like I've
• 42:31
  explored the LA scene a little bit, but then like I was in the
• 42:34
  wrong crowd. I had to like sort through trash
• 42:36
  for like we two years all do, we all do.
• 42:39
  I think that's a universal. LA experience, Yeah.
• 42:41
  And it takes them a while. It really.
• 42:42
  Defines like the spot and I'm like, I still am honestly, but
• 42:46
  like I feel like OK, I know where I go now but yeah, I kind
• 42:50
  of like stopped going out and I became so emo.
• 42:53
  Oh yeah, Oh my God. And I, I think it's, yeah, like
• 42:57
  Sadie, but also like more so like, don't fucking talk to me
• 43:01
  like Sassy, but I'm like being sassy at home.
• 43:04
  Who am I doing that to? Monkey Claw, my cats, my 2.
• 43:07
  Cats. Right.
• 43:08
  We're right. But yeah, I was just like doing
• 43:10
  that. And I've always been like so
• 43:11
  boxed up in this like specific image, which also I think hair
• 43:16
  plays a big image into like who you are.
• 43:18
  I believe, girl, I believe that too.
• 43:20
  Anyways, go ahead. Like what you are like.
• 43:22
  Your hair color, whatever that character that you are like
• 43:25
  really represents who you are. And I had like these like 2,
• 43:28
  kind of like, I guess silver. Front.
• 43:33
  You know, moment, I know what you're talking about.
• 43:34
  Kind of like emoish and like that was fun and that was kind
• 43:38
  too. But I was so antisocial.
• 43:40
  I hated meeting people. I hated making friends.
• 43:43
  I thought having friends were lame.
• 43:44
  And I'll lay you felt this way. Yeah.
• 43:46
  So you're just. Keeping to yourself?
• 43:48
  Yeah, I was like to myself and I had.
• 43:49
  Like few friends, but I was like wooden and expand my friendship
• 43:52
  at all, like at all. Oh my God, and I felt like
• 43:55
  connect was literally about I had no one that I had to like
• 43:59
  OK, let me trace back. I need to connect back to
• 44:01
  myself. I was gonna say because I
• 44:02
  remember I saw when I was. Researching that you said
• 44:04
  Connect was about reconnecting to yourself.
• 44:07
  Oh my gosh. And so, but yeah, I was just.
• 44:10
  Like so emo. And I was like, OK, wait, was it
• 44:13
  like time for a change? It wasn't.
• 44:15
  Even that I think it just like I.
• 44:16
  Went crazy a little bit OT. We all have to.
• 44:19
  We all have to. But like my.
• 44:20
  Crazy is. Like I will disappear.
• 44:23
  That's my favorite thing to do. And my manager goes crazy.
• 44:26
  Really. He's like, where the fuck are
• 44:27
  you? I And I'm like and I'm just
• 44:30
  telling. Someone this morning I.
• 44:31
  Was like, I wish I could just like no.
• 44:32
  I will actually do that like I. Remember like one of the release
• 44:35
  for Speed I I was breaking down. I was like, Oh my God, I hate
• 44:40
  this. I hate this, I hate this.
• 44:41
  Uh huh. Like I love this song, but I
• 44:42
  hate this feeling. It's so scary.
• 44:44
  It is scary and So what? I did was like I booked.
• 44:46
  A flight to San Francisco at 5:00 AM, which the plane left at
• 44:50
  like 7 or 6. Like impulsively.
• 44:53
  Impulsively. Bitch to my cats.
• 44:54
  I was like good luck, have fun. I got like y'all got each other,
• 44:57
  y'all got each other. Mama loves.
• 44:59
  You I'll talk to you later and so see you later.
• 45:02
  No, like I booked a flight and I like flew OK, no hotel booked.
• 45:06
  What was the plan? Nothing.
• 45:08
  Get out of here. Get out of here.
• 45:09
  Get the fuck. Out right now.
• 45:11
  You didn't tell your team no, nothing, nobody.
• 45:13
  And I was just. Like I got to San Francisco.
• 45:15
  I had no place to go. And I was like, wait, OK, I'm
• 45:17
  gonna call. I don't know how to drive.
• 45:19
  So girl, I don't, I don't know which ones to break.
• 45:22
  Like I genuinely do not know. Don't ask me.
• 45:23
  No. So I was like.
• 45:25
  OK, call. My Uber, my black Uber.
• 45:29
  I was like, pop star got the car and I was in the car and that's
• 45:33
  when I booked the the hotel and he was like, let's just Uber
• 45:37
  here, girl, you're just winging it.
• 45:38
  I was just like, I'm just gonna. Book it on the way there.
• 45:40
  OK, tea. And so I got there, you know,
• 45:43
  got the room. It was nice, beautiful.
• 45:46
  And I'm like, OK, what am I gonna do?
• 45:48
  Yeah, like what now? And so I got my sketchbook.
• 45:50
  I love drawing for fun, so I got my sketchbook, biked around the
• 45:56
  city. So fun.
• 45:57
  You just really needed a moment. Yeah, I needed a moment.
• 45:59
  And I went to the park. And laid, you know, you're doing
• 46:02
  this all by yourself. I was by myself.
• 46:04
  Oh. Solo Dolo and.
• 46:05
  Solo Dolo. With headphones.
• 46:07
  On Oola and I was just like listening to bird sounds.
• 46:11
  Oh girl, you're like, I'm really.
• 46:13
  Just needing to like get back. I wasn't listening to music.
• 46:15
  No, actually I. Was listening to Carpenters.
• 46:18
  You're really taking yourself back.
• 46:20
  Suddenly up here, that one. That one and my favorite song,
• 46:23
  Me. Too.
• 46:25
  Yeah, I was listening to that. I was biking around and then I
• 46:29
  think it was like 5 PMI, like broke into a museum.
• 46:32
  Oh shit, they were closing. I pretended to be a staff.
• 46:34
  I went from the back. That's how you do it.
• 46:36
  I was like, I gotta go. I forgot.
• 46:37
  Like, you know, I. Have to close the door on this
• 46:40
  and so I broke into a museum OT saw an albino alligator girl.
• 46:45
  I was like your possible. Rebellion is so like, like
• 46:48
  they're like just breaking into museums, biking around,
• 46:52
  listening to birds. Yeah, no, it's my favorite
• 46:54
  thing. And then the.
• 46:55
  Next day I went to Alcatraz at like 7:00 AM, and then I was
• 46:59
  like, Oh my God, I'm in jail. So how long were you there for?
• 47:02
  Three days. OK, so.
• 47:03
  I went to Alcatraz in the morning.
• 47:05
  Like literally like this is with this release of speed.
• 47:08
  Yes, girl, are you running away with?
• 47:10
  Humiliation. Ritual.
• 47:11
  Then what's happening tonight? Yeah.
• 47:12
  Where are you going? We'll see.
• 47:14
  Oh, no, we'll see. Do you?
• 47:15
  Do you stress your team out? Do I?
• 47:20
  Oh yeah, Charlie, do I stress you out?
• 47:25
  You guys, He nodded. He.
• 47:27
  Was silent he goes wait everyone Mina bright.
• 47:29
  Do I stress you all out? Oh, this is them lot of nodding.
• 47:33
  Mina's chill, yeah. Mina's got my back.
• 47:36
  No, I'm easy. She's a real girl.
• 47:38
  She's a girls. Girl, she's the girl out of
• 47:39
  everyone, so she's like. But anyway, no, but yeah, I like
• 47:44
  went to Alcatraz and there. Was this like Asian lady that
• 47:47
  could like clearly look Japanese?
• 47:49
  Uh huh. And I like I think she was there
• 47:50
  for a vacation and I knew she wouldn't speak in Japanese.
• 47:53
  And I like Oh my God, I want to like scare her a little bit.
• 47:55
  OT and I like hi can. You take a photo of.
• 47:58
  Me, I want to be like Beyoncé. Do you know this photo of
• 48:01
  Beyoncé behind bars? Did you do that?
• 48:04
  I did. You had her take a picture of
• 48:06
  you doing that? Yeah.
• 48:07
  I was like, no, I was like, do you know?
• 48:08
  Beyoncé. And she's like, I don't know,
• 48:11
  Beyoncé. No way.
• 48:12
  And I was like, no, no, no, no. You gotta know Beyoncé.
• 48:14
  This is her music. I played her music.
• 48:16
  And I was like, that's Beyoncé. I want you to do it to me.
• 48:18
  I was introducing. Yeah.
• 48:19
  I was, like, doing God's work. And I was like, literally, I was
• 48:22
  like, I want you to take a photo of me, like, Beyoncé behind
• 48:24
  bars. Like, until that, you can't go
• 48:26
  back to your husband that's waiting over there.
• 48:28
  Did you show the reference photo?
• 48:29
  I did OK. Got it.
• 48:30
  And then like I. We had a little.
• 48:31
  Photo. Shoot, yeah, so we were like at
• 48:33
  on tour, right? So we were behind and she wanted
• 48:36
  to go back to her husband. So.
• 48:36
  But I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 48:38
  I gotta get my photos like Beyoncé.
• 48:41
  Thank you, Beyoncé 100% yeah, I got it right.
• 48:43
  And so period. That was like my moment.
• 48:45
  It was so much fun. Did you tell your team you left?
• 48:48
  I. Think like I called Mac I.
• 48:50
  Called my manager like the day I got there I was like, by the
• 48:53
  way, by the way, I'm in SAN. Francisco, it went dark.
• 48:56
  For like at least a day. Were you scared?
• 48:57
  I was like, I don't know. What's happening?
• 49:00
  Could I? Ever.
• 49:00
  I don't think I would ever do. That I don't.
• 49:01
  Know, I just like to complain. I like to complain, but I always
• 49:04
  show up. I won't complain and then I'll
• 49:05
  disappear. OT Yeah, OK.
• 49:08
  Got it. We oppo, we elbow.
• 49:10
  I have to complain. Yeah, but that, that's why you
• 49:12
  stay and. Like, you put in the work and
• 49:14
  like, yeah, you're a good person.
• 49:17
  Oh. T.
• 49:18
  Thank you, Tell. Me.
• 49:19
  More about that you. You got me.
• 49:23
  Yeah, you're skinny. Skinny.
• 49:24
  Hey, Skinny. Boots.
• 49:26
  Boots. Boots.
• 49:27
  Boots. Boots.
• 49:28
  OK. I love the hat you look good in.
• 49:29
  Like nude color. Thank you.
• 49:31
  Yeah, actually, I know we just met, but like I.
• 49:33
  Like this color? You look good in black.
• 49:35
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 49:36
  You're giving Vixen. I am.
• 49:38
  You eat, you eat. OK.
• 49:40
  We need to get into blonde. So you said before that you feel
• 49:43
  like you didn't find your sound until this EP.
• 49:46
  So going through the journey, you know, you start with summer
• 49:49
  Walker type esque music and then transitioning the blonde, you
• 49:52
  get into a session with Zone Madison Love.
• 49:54
  Yeah. And you make blonde.
• 49:56
  So can we talk about the tattoo track?
• 49:57
  I love this song by the way. Thank you.
• 49:59
  It's such a fun song I feel. Like it's so relatable to just
• 50:02
  like, being Asian. And like the whole concept of
• 50:04
  like, would you like me better if I was blonde?
• 50:06
  Yeah, it's like expectation. And I think like for me.
• 50:09
  I mean, it was just like, honestly, like trauma dumping
• 50:11
  into like a song that's like so fun.
• 50:13
  Yeah, it's super fun. It's and that's how I am as a
• 50:15
  person as well. But I think it all came from
• 50:17
  this experience in Coachella where I bump into like a bunch
• 50:23
  of like Japanese label people. And I was like, Oh my God,
• 50:27
  period, my people. But then like, they started
• 50:29
  talking to me like this. Oh my gosh.
• 50:32
  And so I was like, oh, did. You take you back to childhood.
• 50:34
  Because, you know, you felt like you.
• 50:36
  Were different. You looked different.
• 50:37
  They treated you differently. Yeah, it was so different.
• 50:39
  And I was like, oh. My God, like why am I like Loki
• 50:42
  like scared right now, right? So uncomfortable.
• 50:44
  It was very. Uncomfortable and I didn't
• 50:46
  think. About it until like I woke up
• 50:48
  the next day and I like woke up crying because I had a bad dream
• 50:50
  about it like Oh my God, like unconsciously I was like getting
• 50:54
  triggered like I didn't know that only brought you back Yeah,
• 50:57
  it did and that. Was not your entire.
• 50:58
  Entire life growing up, yeah. And I was just like in general,
• 51:01
  like. I mean, I love the training, but
• 51:03
  like this, like, survival mode of like, Oh my God, I'm always
• 51:06
  on the edge. And like, that was fun and all,
• 51:08
  but also, like, really, really scary.
• 51:12
  Yeah. It's almost like I just needed
• 51:14
  to, like, release it. And so literally, like, the day
• 51:19
  after Coachella, I had a session with Madison Love and Zone, and
• 51:22
  I was just like, it was my first time meeting them, too.
• 51:24
  And I loved them immediately. And I like trauma dumped
• 51:27
  everything and then got your therapy.
• 51:30
  And that was my therapy and I was.
• 51:31
  Like like I need to go. Blonde.
• 51:33
  I need to like, lose myself, like I need a lobotomy to like,
• 51:36
  restart my mind or like, rewire my brain because I'm so like in
• 51:41
  this system where I can't think outside of it, you know?
• 51:46
  And so like, what can I do that's like lobotomy but I don't
• 51:51
  have to die. Yeah, totally.
• 51:52
  And that's what's the closest thing to that.
• 51:53
  Bleach, hair bleach in my brain. Yeah, exactly like.
• 51:57
  Yes. And that's where it came.
• 51:59
  And I, yeah, when I did leach my, I actually was not blonde
• 52:03
  when I made the song. And so after that I actually
• 52:07
  bleached my hair and I started like living life like without
• 52:12
  thinking about anything. I was so loose and I was just
• 52:14
  like, literally, I'm not taking anything seriously at all.
• 52:18
  Yeah. And then it feels like you said
• 52:20
  like as a mix of this. Character and also it's very you
• 52:22
  still yeah I mean like I think it's I.
• 52:24
  Thought it was a character. I think like the colourfulness
• 52:28
  of it is definitely more something about costume.
• 52:30
  Yeah. But like I hate like it's it was
• 52:33
  kind of like a costume in terms of like the colour palette and
• 52:36
  all. Yeah, but like the mindset of it
• 52:38
  was like something that I've always said, I mean, and you're
• 52:40
  an Aries like this is like nothing.
• 52:41
  Surprising. And you said it's not
• 52:43
  surprising. Yeah.
• 52:43
  Do you get along with Aries? I love Aries.
• 52:45
  My last manager was in. Aries and she it was amazing and
• 52:48
  she was so fiery amazing fighter.
• 52:50
  Well if you loved her then why did you get?
• 52:52
  Rid of her. I was about a second clock.
• 52:54
  Clock. Let's talk.
• 52:54
  About it. Clock, clock.
• 52:58
  So anyways. Anyways.
• 53:00
  But. TTDTI.
• 53:02
  Love Aries. I love Aries.
• 53:04
  Very Aries thing of you to confront, by the way.
• 53:05
  Yeah, you ride. I'm very confrontational.
• 53:07
  But not to myself. I'm super confrontational.
• 53:10
  Good me. Mad confrontational.
• 53:11
  I'm in Aries rising double Aries T.
• 53:16
  Scary T. And.
• 53:17
  Honestly, the show started. Very Aries I.
• 53:19
  Know it did. Very scary's Scary's I'm a
• 53:23
  songwriter. I could tell.
• 53:25
  T you should write a. Song Scary's Aries.
• 53:27
  Oh my God, I might fuck it. I like writing Taking 10.
• 53:30
  Percent don't. Get me started on Masters OH.
• 53:35
  My God I'm so tricky right now. You can have your 10.
• 53:39
  Because I. Learned that it's not worth
• 53:41
  fighting about SO anyways, but. You know what I think making
• 53:46
  music can. Really feel like a humiliation
• 53:48
  ritual. It is.
• 53:49
  Guess what? I had to practice that in my
• 53:50
  head humiliation for like 10 minutes before introducing this
• 53:53
  because like, oh, that's such a big word for Elmo humiliation.
• 53:57
  It's just like a big word. Humiliation.
• 53:58
  Ritual humiliation. Ritual.
• 54:00
  Yeah, let's. Talk about humiliation ritual.
• 54:03
  OK, first this is my favorite song about you.
• 54:06
  Oh, thank you. It's my favorite song.
• 54:08
  I'm not even kidding. I think it's sensual.
• 54:10
  Sensual. Sexy.
• 54:11
  Fun. Yes, and.
• 54:11
  It's like dark. It is dark.
• 54:14
  Oh. My God, let's talk about.
• 54:15
  Let's get into it. Tell us.
• 54:16
  Everything. About the song, where did it
• 54:17
  come from? So what I was?
• 54:20
  Doing in San Francisco. I'm not even kidding.
• 54:22
  Ritual. No, it was humiliation ritual.
• 54:24
  But I think like, that time was the first time I've discovered
• 54:27
  like, Oh my God, I need to humiliate myself, desensitize
• 54:30
  myself. Oh yeah, like Beyoncé thing.
• 54:33
  Yeah, like. Do shit that like.
• 54:35
  Really embarrass you like I remember like when I was there
• 54:38
  like I would I, I'm not even kidding, I'm not making this up,
• 54:41
  but like I would lay on like the sidewalk where people are
• 54:44
  crossing you. I know you.
• 54:47
  But. But.
• 54:49
  Slay but. No, but like I was.
• 54:53
  Doing that and I was like. Oh, my God.
• 54:54
  Wait. Like I'm living.
• 54:56
  Like, people are like, get the fuck?
• 54:58
  Yeah, This is the meaning of life.
• 54:59
  Like, yeah, like laying on the sidewalk.
• 55:01
  And I was like, this is fun. And I'm so humiliated, but I'm
• 55:05
  so like, I don't give a shit about anything else.
• 55:08
  And I started forgetting about the things I was so stressed out
• 55:10
  about, like, why I went to San Francisco.
• 55:13
  Oh, true. I'm like, I'm not thinking about
• 55:15
  that. Oh my God, I need to do this.
• 55:15
  More, yeah. And so from there.
• 55:18
  Yeah. I kept on doing and like I have
• 55:21
  like a thing where like every morning I would do my, you know,
• 55:25
  like cunt walk outside. Of course you have to, but I
• 55:28
  would like. Walk.
• 55:30
  While doing this. And then I like sing out loud,
• 55:34
  like really publicly, yeah. Would people see you?
• 55:37
  Yeah. Obviously.
• 55:38
  Did you care? No.
• 55:39
  Girl, I don't care. Girl, I don't give a fuck about
• 55:42
  anything at all. I love that.
• 55:44
  But like, that's the fun. Part and I'm like that's what
• 55:45
  you need. To be like, to be a pop star,
• 55:47
  Yeah. Like because like once you care
• 55:48
  about. Like how people see you, like
• 55:51
  how you look on the video, how to be, you know, that's when I
• 55:55
  like it loses like the essence of a pop star to me.
• 55:59
  I mean, like, Brittany shaved her head.
• 56:00
  She didn't give a fuck, didn't give a fuck.
• 56:02
  And that's what I loved about her.
• 56:03
  And like. Madonna, like there's so many
• 56:05
  stuff that like that was a little bit like controversial
• 56:07
  that, but she was so tunnel vision into her music and art.
• 56:10
  And I'm like, I love that, I love that and I need to do that.
• 56:13
  And I trained myself to do that. And so, like I, you're doing a
• 56:18
  humiliation ritual. I did, yeah.
• 56:20
  And so and from. There I got into the studio with
• 56:25
  Jack and Coke, the producer. Amazing.
• 56:27
  I love them so much. They're Swedish.
• 56:28
  Oh my God, yes, I get along with.
• 56:29
  They're great, by the way. I love them.
• 56:32
  Love and then Gabe. Also a writer love him.
• 56:36
  He also did kind of girl from Blonde Blonde.
• 56:38
  Yeah, yeah, I got. Into it and I.
• 56:40
  Just, like, started talking about like, this is my favorite
• 56:42
  thing to do when I'm nervous or like if I feel like I'm like
• 56:46
  slacking to just like put myself back in this like, tight corset
• 56:50
  that I love wearing. Yeah, just get back to it.
• 56:52
  Get back to it. But also.
• 56:53
  It's just like. This like I feel like people
• 56:56
  take humiliation ritual as such a negative way, but to me to
• 57:01
  surrender is power to me. Yeah, you're because like I'm
• 57:04
  owning it. So like before I give you the
• 57:06
  option to judge me, I'm judging myself already.
• 57:09
  It's a confidence thing. It is.
• 57:10
  And that's like. Powerful to.
• 57:12
  Me 100% and so like I like that, especially coming from like
• 57:16
  blonde. Title track.
• 57:17
  Yeah, like, I wish I looked different.
• 57:18
  What if I was different? Yeah, going into like from that.
• 57:21
  Into. Actually, let me take.
• 57:22
  My power back and like, I'm that bitch.
• 57:24
  Yeah, you are that bitch. Is this the first song from?
• 57:26
  This tech project, yes, that is such.
• 57:29
  I like. Seeing artists, like I like
• 57:32
  seeing an artist grow like honestly just like story wise,
• 57:34
  like like we just said with blonde being like, oh, if I was
• 57:37
  blonde, would you want me right? Versus like going into this
• 57:40
  being like, I don't care anymore.
• 57:41
  I'm doing me, I'm doing me, what's up?
• 57:43
  Absolutely. I mean like blonde is also.
• 57:45
  Has like a little bit of like sarcastic in a way.
• 57:48
  Like you're kind of like you're kind.
• 57:50
  Of like gritty about it. Yeah.
• 57:51
  I was like playing a lot. Yeah, that very, very.
• 57:54
  But humiliation is just like full on attack, but it's just
• 57:58
  like I'm in control of everything.
• 58:00
  But also like we also talked about just like the aspect of
• 58:03
  like, you know, like the thing when you give an ugly man a
• 58:07
  chance, they feel like they're on top of the world.
• 58:10
  Yes. No, I know that, yes.
• 58:11
  So. Yeah, like that's why I love.
• 58:15
  Saying. Like you're my humiliation
• 58:17
  ritual. You're nothing more than that.
• 58:19
  You stay there. I'm in control of you.
• 58:20
  Clock it. Clock it, Clock it.
• 58:22
  That's. That's the vibe.
• 58:23
  Relatable. As fuck yeah.
• 58:25
  Yeah, I got that. I just feel.
• 58:26
  So powerful, good, and I love that.
• 58:29
  I like that song so much too. It's like, really?
• 58:31
  It's just so good. Yeah, it's really good because
• 58:33
  then Charlie sent it to me and I played it and I was like, wait,
• 58:35
  I texted him. I was like, wait, this is super
• 58:37
  good. This is really good.
• 58:40
  Oh, yeah, It's so good. But it's exactly that.
• 58:43
  Because then also like the relationships, that could be so
• 58:46
  embarrassing, too. Oh, yeah.
• 58:47
  I mean, have you seen that? Article like having a boyfriend
• 58:50
  is embarrassing it's so embarrassing it's embarrassing
• 58:53
  I'm. Embarrassing.
• 58:54
  No, but like. Yeah, there's just like so many.
• 58:56
  Things I'm just like, hey, everything is embarrassing.
• 58:59
  Everything is embarrassing. Like for your own again?
• 59:01
  Fuck it. Yeah, but like when you own it,
• 59:03
  that's. Just like that is true power.
• 59:05
  No one could say shit. No one can make you feel a type
• 59:07
  of way. You're just doing it.
• 59:08
  Yeah, absolutely. A little like.
• 59:10
  That that's actually true. To Lulu it is true to Lulu.
• 59:13
  Tea and it's like also OK, another thing that I did so I
• 59:18
  know we're going to talk about like because I kind of stalked
• 59:21
  you a little bit. Did you I did give me tell me
• 59:23
  you like to talk about manifestation love and I do yes,
• 59:26
  love it and I'm like thinking about how like do I manifest
• 59:31
  Like I don't think I've ever manifested.
• 59:32
  Oh, I feel like you've been manifesting.
• 59:35
  Subtly, I feel like my way of. Manifesting is a little bit
• 59:37
  different though I think. Like I like to not manifest on
• 59:42
  purpose, you just let things happen that but also.
• 59:45
  I've like I. Feel like I have this like weird
• 59:48
  like tension with the universe. Oh really?
• 59:51
  That I'm like. If I.
• 59:53
  Talk about it too much. She's going to be like, I'm not
• 59:56
  going to give it to you. I used to be like that, you
• 59:58
  know, I used to be like. That I'd be like, I don't want.
• 1:00:00
  To save my plans. Because then it's going to be
• 1:00:02
  like, I'm jinxing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Kind of like that. But I have my way of different
• 1:00:07
  manifestation. OK, see what's yours, which is
• 1:00:09
  humiliation. Ritual that makes.
• 1:00:11
  Sense so like for. Example like I.
• 1:00:14
  I just recently played at Subculture, which I love so so
• 1:00:18
  so fun. And I performed my songs
• 1:00:20
  Humiliation Ritual and it was unreleased and people were
• 1:00:23
  eating it up and I was like period.
• 1:00:25
  But like tracing it back, I'm like, wait, like I know
• 1:00:28
  subculture because literally like I think like a year, was it
• 1:00:33
  the year before, maybe a year before I performed, before I met
• 1:00:39
  with the subculture people, which I love, I actually
• 1:00:43
  attended their show and. I was just like.
• 1:00:48
  Losing it, I was crazy. I like, did you like see
• 1:00:53
  yourself up there? No, I got on.
• 1:00:56
  I got on top of the stage babes bitch while someone was playing
• 1:01:00
  bitch the. Audacity.
• 1:01:03
  Don't do that. But I did last night.
• 1:01:06
  No, you should, because you know what I did?
• 1:01:08
  I like, got up on the stage. OK, here's the thing.
• 1:01:11
  The dancers were dancing. Dancers are dancing.
• 1:01:13
  He comes to me. He's like, hey, and I was like,
• 1:01:16
  get me up on the stage right now.
• 1:01:18
  And he was like, I'm sorry, baby, you can't do that.
• 1:01:20
  And I said right. And then when I said I.
• 1:01:23
  Said. You're just scared I'm going to
• 1:01:24
  outdo you. Clock it.
• 1:01:25
  And he goes whatever. And I got on top of the stage.
• 1:01:29
  I got so embarrassing. I look back to the video, I'm
• 1:01:31
  just like, Oh my God. And I, like, started dancing and
• 1:01:36
  I did my splits. Left titty was a little bit out,
• 1:01:40
  but like, nobody talks about it. That's the right titty to have.
• 1:01:43
  Like, yeah. Low key, that's humiliation.
• 1:01:46
  Ritual, but also look at me, I just performed listen, you
• 1:01:51
  manifested that you're on and that was.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah, so like I. Love, I need to like put myself
• 1:01:56
  in this uncomfortable position, being uncomfortable that's
• 1:01:59
  manifesting for me. It's that's.
• 1:02:01
  So true, the humiliation. Ritual of it all.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, that's my ritual. I'm a witch.
• 1:02:05
  You are, it goes. It all goes.
• 1:02:07
  Back yeah to the Japan countryside yeah OK here he is
• 1:02:10
  yeah I'm gonna start doing that too I just saw a show last night
• 1:02:13
  so my Co writer on my album Lily Kincaid had her first concert
• 1:02:17
  last night and she was performing loved it great show
• 1:02:19
  great artist and I was like watching her and I was like that
• 1:02:22
  should be me no, you should no, you should have I should get up
• 1:02:24
  there I'm gonna get. Up.
• 1:02:25
  I'm gonna get up. Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  I was like, yeah. And I was like, sing our song,
• 1:02:27
  girl. But yeah, any whoms?
• 1:02:29
  Any whoms? OK, next concert I'm getting up
• 1:02:30
  there. Get up.
• 1:02:31
  What if someone got up when you were doing it?
• 1:02:33
  When you were performing? Oh my God, I would love it.
• 1:02:35
  You would eat that. Please.
• 1:02:36
  OK, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it.
• 1:02:37
  Please. We're gonna do a little duet.
• 1:02:39
  I'm gonna actually. Like leave and be.
• 1:02:40
  Like, wait, we'll do blonde together.
• 1:02:43
  OK, let's do it. OK, we're gonna do it.
• 1:02:45
  Wait 2. Hair.
• 1:02:47
  TTT we'll do a blonde remix. OK, take 2 blondies, 2 blondes.
• 1:02:52
  I'm. Waiting we're.
• 1:02:53
  Gonna do it. Wait, next show.
• 1:02:55
  I'm there. Are you doing anything in LA
• 1:02:58
  soon? We'll see.
• 1:02:59
  Wait, I'm actually gonna be there.
• 1:03:01
  OK, clock clock clock. So what is next?
• 1:03:04
  Humiliation ritual is the first one after this.
• 1:03:07
  Next project is another EP. What's coming after this?
• 1:03:09
  Can I say where are we going with?
• 1:03:11
  This OK? Give us the delivery well.
• 1:03:14
  I'm working on an EP right now, so excited and been working with
• 1:03:18
  a lot of amazing European producers.
• 1:03:21
  Yes, they get pop music right. They get it.
• 1:03:24
  They do get it. And they get my.
• 1:03:26
  World and I think like sonically.
• 1:03:27
  Too. It's just like it's been
• 1:03:30
  challenging to, like, get in the studio with, like, different
• 1:03:33
  producers because like, not everybody will get that.
• 1:03:36
  Like I'm chasing after something so new, 'cause like, I, I, I
• 1:03:39
  understand, I totally understand that they have like this, you
• 1:03:43
  know, how a pop music should sound, how, yeah, an electronic
• 1:03:47
  dance music should sound. And I 100% wanna challenge that.
• 1:03:50
  And I think, like, that's exciting.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah. I really do feel.
• 1:03:53
  Like you person envelope too, I love pushing people.
• 1:03:56
  And I love challenging people and if we're not nervous and
• 1:03:59
  scared and feel like shit going home, then we didn't make a hay.
• 1:04:05
  Exactly that. And so I'm so excited to like,
• 1:04:08
  I've been doing a lot of sessions and they're so good.
• 1:04:11
  Oh my God, wait, I'm so excited. Is it?
• 1:04:13
  Gonna be similar to like humiliation ritual or like do
• 1:04:15
  you think it's gonna be still like reminiscent of blonde EPI
• 1:04:19
  mean there's like a little bit of.
• 1:04:21
  Like a natural evolution hearts. But completely.
• 1:04:24
  Different. Oh really?
• 1:04:25
  Yeah, wait, that's so exciting. I'm.
• 1:04:27
  So. So wait, are we gonna change
• 1:04:29
  your look for that? Too then.
• 1:04:31
  'Cause you know, you're so visual.
• 1:04:31
  OK, well The thing is like well. I feel like blonde was such a
• 1:04:34
  colorful, fun innocenti but also like she's self aware party
• 1:04:39
  girl. OK love, you know this one is a.
• 1:04:41
  Little bit more. Edgier I can.
• 1:04:43
  I literally hear that humiliation ritual.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah. Even like, production wise, it
• 1:04:46
  feels edgier, you know, It's like gritty, gritty.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah. And it's just like.
• 1:04:51
  It's like Caddy, which I wait, we're so exciting into this new.
• 1:04:54
  World I'm so excited OK yay and you know music videos coming.
• 1:04:58
  Out tomorrow and I'm excited for everyone to see.
• 1:05:00
  I'm for humiliation ritual. Yeah, guys, it's out.
• 1:05:03
  Right now everyone looks to watch it.
• 1:05:04
  Wait, tell me about the video because obviously I haven't seen
• 1:05:06
  it. So it's a dance video?
• 1:05:08
  Stop. Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Oh my God, you haven't seen. It.
• 1:05:10
  Oh fuck yeah, I haven't. Seen it, I'll show you after
• 1:05:12
  because guys, it's not out yet. As of filming?
• 1:05:14
  As of filming, it's not out as of you watching.
• 1:05:16
  This it is out. Yeah, everyone.
• 1:05:18
  Oh my God. So I know.
• 1:05:19
  I also love the blonde video. You love the video?
• 1:05:21
  Thank you. Fun fun, fun, fun fun.
• 1:05:23
  She's a fun one. I like the I like the blonde
• 1:05:25
  ambition doc you were. Doing you should do more of
• 1:05:26
  that. Absolutely.
• 1:05:28
  I really love getting into. The mind of an artist you know.
• 1:05:30
  I mean, that's I was excited to do this with you 'cause I was
• 1:05:32
  like, you gave so much in that. And I wanna expand.
• 1:05:35
  I wanna like, I've been so like boxed up in like the.
• 1:05:37
  Mysterious, but I'm ready to be shipped naked.
• 1:05:39
  Give it to us with the pin. Strip naked with a pen.
• 1:05:43
  Don't. Forget the pen.
• 1:05:44
  We will never forget the pen. I will always have Steven.
• 1:05:46
  Pen OK. Wait, thank you for.
• 1:05:48
  Opening up about that, of course, OK, But yeah, the music.
• 1:05:51
  Video is fun. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Dance video. Dance video.
• 1:05:54
  I feel like that's something like, even with blonde, like, I
• 1:05:56
  know like I did the training and I love dancing and that's how I
• 1:06:00
  express. Like I prefer to dance and to
• 1:06:01
  talk. We should be dancing right now.
• 1:06:04
  We're kind of dancing a little bit.
• 1:06:05
  I'd be moving. A little.
• 1:06:06
  I saw that. Yeah, you gave like a little.
• 1:06:08
  Wave, you got it. Yeah, I get it.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, you got it. But yeah, I just like, prefer to
• 1:06:12
  dance, and I'm a performer and I'm like, yeah, I need to
• 1:06:15
  showcase that. And I want people to see, yeah,
• 1:06:18
  that it's still a part of your artistry in lore, too.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, absolutely. And also like the writing
• 1:06:22
  process. Of my music too, like I'm always
• 1:06:24
  dancing in the studio Oh yeah, you have to like I'm moving
• 1:06:26
  around, you have to. And so I'm not dancing during a
• 1:06:28
  session. I'm like, we gotta.
• 1:06:29
  We gotta do something. We gotta do something else.
• 1:06:31
  We. Gotta do something else.
• 1:06:32
  Absolutely. And so I did that with the music
• 1:06:34
  video. I'm dancing my house down.
• 1:06:37
  My God girl, I'm excited naked. With pin, naked with pin, we're
• 1:06:40
  gonna have to watch to find. Out, Yeah, OK.
• 1:06:42
  To see you, I'll show you after. OK, wait, I'm.
• 1:06:44
  Excited, OK. Yay.
• 1:06:46
  OK, cunt. Love it.
• 1:06:47
  Slay. Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  And then the rest of the project.
• 1:06:48
  How far along are you with it? Like how much of it is done,
• 1:06:51
  would you say? My God, I feel like.
• 1:06:55
  No, I can't. Tell you yet?
• 1:06:56
  OK, wait, I can't tell. You yet you just you weren't be
• 1:06:58
  secretive anymore, No. Clock you OK?
• 1:07:03
  Don't tell us we like but but. But there's already like few
• 1:07:06
  songs that's like we're like, so like, this is it?
• 1:07:09
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:07:10
  I'm so excited. Which I'm really excited about.
• 1:07:11
  Wait, I'm excited too. OK, I hope.
• 1:07:13
  They're like, like in that world of humiliation ritual,
• 1:07:17
  different. They're all like kind of
• 1:07:19
  different, but like, still in that world.
• 1:07:21
  Cohesive though? Yes.
• 1:07:22
  Lovely. Absolutely.
• 1:07:23
  Oh my God. Cool.
• 1:07:24
  I. Love projects?
• 1:07:25
  Wait, are you? Thinking about like doing an
• 1:07:26
  album too, eventually. Oh absolutely.
• 1:07:28
  It's gonna be fun and. I have, like, people in mind for
• 1:07:31
  that. So wait, yeah, you've been
• 1:07:33
  working for like. Your entire life.
• 1:07:35
  I've been since 14 clocked. In clocked in, never clocked
• 1:07:38
  out, never clocked out girl I need a.
• 1:07:41
  Little vacation any whom I need a vacation, should we go to San?
• 1:07:44
  Francisco, let's go to. Paris.
• 1:07:47
  Oh my. God, OK, let's go fuck it.
• 1:07:49
  What do you know, I hate travelling.
• 1:07:50
  I hate travelling, I hate traveling.
• 1:07:51
  No problem. What?
• 1:07:52
  I hate it so much. Wait, why I don't like?
• 1:07:55
  Packing I don't like. Planning I don't like OK, I hate
• 1:07:58
  packing too, right? Like OK, literally because then.
• 1:08:02
  Passes sent me to New York in May last year and I told them I
• 1:08:06
  was like, I will literally go if you have someone like do
• 1:08:08
  literally everything for me and like literally hold my hand,
• 1:08:11
  take me to the airport, drop me off everything.
• 1:08:13
  I don't want to do nothing like I just, it's too overwhelming
• 1:08:16
  for me. When's the last time you had a
• 1:08:18
  vacation? Never.
• 1:08:19
  I would have ever had a vacation I.
• 1:08:20
  Actually want one now. I would like one now.
• 1:08:23
  I asked. Literally clock it, Charlie.
• 1:08:26
  She looked at you. I was not listening.
• 1:08:27
  I like on. Vacation.
• 1:08:29
  I asked Charlie last episode. I was like, can I please get a
• 1:08:32
  break? And he said May.
• 1:08:33
  And I was like. It's March.
• 1:08:37
  He doesn't mean that either. I'm like, I'm not getting a
• 1:08:39
  break in. May no, no you're not.
• 1:08:40
  I understand though, Pop. Star Life.
• 1:08:42
  You get it? No, literally.
• 1:08:44
  That's why I have to complain. Yeah, that's my vacation.
• 1:08:46
  That's okay, I understand. I have to give him a.
• 1:08:48
  Little bit of hell, I'll send him a voice message.
• 1:08:50
  And I'll be like, Oh my God, I know I'm being so annoying and
• 1:08:52
  like a diva right now, but I was a little tired.
• 1:08:56
  I was like not. Do this.
• 1:08:59
  And he's like. Charlie's like, no, the answer's
• 1:09:01
  always no. Yeah, it's just an N.
• 1:09:02
  O just straight straight up. No, straight up.
• 1:09:05
  This morning. I was like, do I have to do this
• 1:09:06
  to you? And he was like, I was like, can
• 1:09:08
  I cancel this? And he was like, no.
• 1:09:09
  And I was like, you didn't even let me explain why.
• 1:09:11
  He's like, I don't care. He did.
• 1:09:14
  Not care, it's OK. That's the price of
• 1:09:16
  superstardom, and I understand that.
• 1:09:19
  OK, so obviously you're a very delulu person.
• 1:09:21
  We talked about this entire show.
• 1:09:23
  But I ask every guest what is their most delulu take?
• 1:09:26
  What is like the most delusional thing you believe could be
• 1:09:29
  silly, controversial, fun? I'm serious.
• 1:09:33
  I think. That this life like you guys
• 1:09:36
  don't exist. I think all of.
• 1:09:39
  Us. Yeah, like.
• 1:09:40
  Mac don't exist you. Guys, none of this exists.
• 1:09:42
  Like I feel. Like, this is like a show.
• 1:09:46
  Yeah, where I'm like, it's like Truman Show.
• 1:09:49
  I haven't seen that. Is it white like break?
• 1:09:51
  Oh my God, are you kidding? I haven't.
• 1:09:53
  Seen anything classic? What is it?
• 1:09:56
  OK, so it's. Basically about this guy and
• 1:09:59
  nothing exists. Well, like.
• 1:10:01
  Is it? It exists, but.
• 1:10:02
  Like OK T every single one of them is actually part of the
• 1:10:04
  show. He doesn't know he's being
• 1:10:06
  documented. Oh yeah, that doesn't.
• 1:10:09
  Know. But so like there's like
• 1:10:11
  cameras, there's. Hidden.
• 1:10:12
  Cameras like everywhere, but he doesn't know and then later on
• 1:10:16
  he kind of figures it out and he tries to get out of that world
• 1:10:19
  so like he doesn't want to be in it well, like he.
• 1:10:21
  Realizes like he was actually living.
• 1:10:22
  In like this like set, I feel like I would like that you no
• 1:10:26
  watch. It I'm it's like so.
• 1:10:27
  Good, I feel like I would like living.
• 1:10:29
  That. Yeah, I love a.
• 1:10:30
  Set because like, OK, here's the thing.
• 1:10:32
  I love lights. Not going to lie, spill to be a
• 1:10:35
  pop *. Go.
• 1:10:37
  You have to be selfish. Clock.
• 1:10:39
  You have to be self obsessed, clocky on with everything that
• 1:10:42
  you love I think like nothing comes up.
• 1:10:44
  No, I agree with without self. Obsession self.
• 1:10:47
  Analyzing psychoanalysis, whatever.
• 1:10:49
  I agree. And you have to be self aware.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah, yes. You have to be self aware about
• 1:10:53
  it. And I think like when you become
• 1:10:55
  like that, you're like, wait, everything's about me.
• 1:10:58
  I'm the main character. Yes, that's.
• 1:11:00
  Literally how I feel so. That's my delusion.
• 1:11:02
  We need to. I'm right?
• 1:11:03
  There with you, yeah. And honestly, that's I already
• 1:11:06
  know this. When the music as it comes out,
• 1:11:07
  I know I'm going to be my number one Spotify artist.
• 1:11:09
  Turn the rap. You have to be.
• 1:11:11
  You have. To be your own biggest fan.
• 1:11:13
  I really only listen to my music when I was watching.
• 1:11:15
  Lily show last night. I feel so bad saying this out
• 1:11:16
  loud publicly. I love you Lily.
• 1:11:18
  Such a great show. I was like, damn, I wish that
• 1:11:20
  was me and my songs and I was like, I'm so excited.
• 1:11:24
  To leave this and. Listen to my own music in the
• 1:11:25
  car, you know? But great show.
• 1:11:27
  She's incredible. Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  I mean, it's just like. Why wouldn't you think about
• 1:11:31
  yourself? You have to.
• 1:11:32
  You should love your shit too. And I.
• 1:11:33
  Think that's why like living in Japan like.
• 1:11:35
  People are always constantly thinking about other people.
• 1:11:37
  So I was just like, so held back totally.
• 1:11:40
  And I just like exploded. I got that literally physically
• 1:11:43
  exploded. I mean, yes, you did.
• 1:11:45
  You're everywhere. You're all.
• 1:11:45
  Over us? Yeah, You have my DNA all over.
• 1:11:48
  You. I love it.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah. You have Charlie's hair in your
• 1:11:49
  closet. I do.
• 1:11:51
  Yes, she has my pelvis. 'S hair in her.
• 1:11:52
  Closet. I do.
• 1:11:53
  I'm going to. Keep my hat on.
• 1:11:57
  OK, wait, can I say something? Yeah, bitch, this has been so
• 1:12:00
  much fun. Really dead ass.
• 1:12:03
  Oh my God, can I tell you something?
• 1:12:04
  I will. Go on record and say this my.
• 1:12:06
  Favorite guest so far has been Elise.
• 1:12:08
  I did her in like October, and while we're having this one, in
• 1:12:12
  my head, I was like, this is like an Elise episode.
• 1:12:15
  It's like I'm having so much. Fun.
• 1:12:16
  I was like, wait, we're having so much fun.
• 1:12:19
  No, we're Kiki. That's Kiki.
• 1:12:21
  Because we. Were doing it before we started
• 1:12:23
  to and. Then I was like, now we're here.
• 1:12:25
  I'm like, this is fun. Like we're really.
• 1:12:26
  I knew I would like you. You're like me.
• 1:12:28
  We're literally twins. No, actually.
• 1:12:30
  Like literally exactly. No, I literally like texted.
• 1:12:32
  Charlie I was like, is it crazy? Like me.
• 1:12:34
  Oh yeah. And he's like, he might be
• 1:12:36
  crazier. And I was like, Charlie,
• 1:12:37
  nobody's crazier than what the hell I mean.
• 1:12:41
  See, I was like, nobody's crazy. I'm pretty.
• 1:12:43
  Crazy, crazy off. What's the crazy thing you've
• 1:12:46
  done? Crazy.
• 1:12:47
  Look at us cute What's the craziest thing I've done?
• 1:12:51
  What's the? Craziest thing you've done?
• 1:12:52
  I can't say. Mine legally.
• 1:12:56
  Oh I can't y'all know? What's OK?
• 1:12:59
  You're going to have to tell. Me off the off camera.
• 1:13:01
  I will tell you it's pretty crazy.
• 1:13:02
  What do you have? Oh my God, I feel like
• 1:13:04
  everything. OK, so here's.
• 1:13:06
  Do you know anything that I've done Crazy because like, OK, I
• 1:13:10
  was telling this to Mac. I feel like, I don't know what's
• 1:13:12
  crazy because like I ohh, Your frame of reference is like yeah.
• 1:13:16
  It's just like you're just living.
• 1:13:17
  I'm living. Until someone.
• 1:13:18
  Like, Oh my God, you should. Write a song.
• 1:13:19
  But I was like, wait, that's my life.
• 1:13:20
  Like that's normal. That's like the way I breathe.
• 1:13:23
  Clock every professional in the room.
• 1:13:25
  Just immediately beat out. I was like, wait, that's no, not
• 1:13:30
  that. 1:00 Not that one. I'm so anyways, yeah, I believe
• 1:13:33
  everything's about me too. Like you said, no like it's
• 1:13:35
  delusion, but it's just like. I feel like, yeah, I feel like
• 1:13:39
  God, whatever you believe in created this because I'm in it.
• 1:13:44
  And it's just like, these are my, like, disciples.
• 1:13:47
  Oh, my God. They're just characters in your
• 1:13:48
  show. Yeah.
• 1:13:49
  Like my fan, like they call. Me, like they started calling me
• 1:13:51
  literally last week. What?
• 1:13:53
  They created a name called Godra.
• 1:13:56
  Is that you? Yeah, you're Godra.
• 1:13:57
  God. Wait, yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Where's what was? Who is it?
• 1:14:02
  Goriana Glar Glar. Who's the bitch from this?
• 1:14:05
  From earlier? Your alter ego?
• 1:14:07
  George Georgina. Georgina Kind.
• 1:14:10
  Of low key and. They call themselves.
• 1:14:14
  I do. Oh, you don't care?
• 1:14:15
  She possesses me. OK, fair.
• 1:14:17
  When I dance. I get possessed.
• 1:14:19
  That's Georgina, Georgina, Georgina.
• 1:14:21
  Speaking so we see. Georgina in humiliation ritual
• 1:14:23
  video. Oh.
• 1:14:23
  You do. Oh my God, guys, we're.
• 1:14:25
  Watching. Ofs OK Kira, this was so much
• 1:14:29
  fun. Thank you.
• 1:14:30
  That was so much fun. Thank you for having.
• 1:14:31
  Me, girl, I you have to come back I.
• 1:14:33
  Will when the EP drops? I will when the prods drops.
• 1:14:37
  OK, You have to come back. So we close out every episode by
• 1:14:40
  manifesting together. Is there anything you want to
• 1:14:42
  speak into existence? I know you said that you don't
• 1:14:44
  intentionally manifest, but we're going to do it right now.
• 1:14:45
  OK. What do you want to speak into
• 1:14:46
  existence? I manifest.
• 1:14:51
  Straight into the Grammy, yes. As two artists, yeah, I'm.
• 1:14:56
  On the Grammy committee, I'll vote for you.
• 1:14:58
  Thank you. I'm on your good.
• 1:14:59
  Side you. Are spread.
• 1:15:01
  The word you are. And getting I manifest to.
• 1:15:04
  Get my license without taking the test anyways girl.
• 1:15:09
  So this has been so much fun. Thank you so much for being a
• 1:15:11
  guest. And besties, thank you so much
• 1:15:13
  for watching this episode of Delulu.
• 1:15:14
  This was your healthy dose of delulu.
• 1:15:16
  So now you can go live your true Lulu bestie Kira.
• 1:15:19
  Where can the besties find you me find?
• 1:15:23
  Me where you have to you. Have to manifest me.
• 1:15:26
  Just kidding, you can. Find me on Instagram.
• 1:15:28
  TikTok, Kira Machira everywhere and Spotify and the miliation
• 1:15:32
  ritual. Music video she's out.
• 1:15:35
  She's out on the floor on the dance floor, period.
• 1:15:38
  That's. Georgina, actually, yeah.
• 1:15:40
  Period. But guys, we're excited for the
• 1:15:42
  new music. We're going to be streaming the
• 1:15:44
  Blonde EP. She will have her moment.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah, she will have her moment. She'll have her moment until.
• 1:15:49
  The next moment. Next moment until the next
• 1:15:51
  moment. But besties, if you love this
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• 1:16:03
  personally bleach your hair for you.
• 1:16:05
  I'll be there with your doorstep.
• 1:16:07
  Do you bleach your own hair? No.
• 1:16:09
  You have something to. Do for you?
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, me too. I'm scared I will.
• 1:16:12
  I will. Fuck it up, Bleach.
• 1:16:13
  Like and burn it off. I Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  My my roommate, he tried bleaching his own hair.
• 1:16:21
  It was such a disaster. He fucked up the apartment.
• 1:16:24
  Like, yeah, so let's go to professionals.
• 1:16:27
  Yeah, let's go to never, OK? I like we don't play hair.
• 1:16:30
  Do you see this like one piece, one piece this, Yes.
• 1:16:33
  I cut it while I was drunk. New Year's Eve.
• 1:16:37
  I've done that before. And I've been.
• 1:16:38
  Dramatic. I love being.
• 1:16:40
  I love. I've got a fucking do a moment
• 1:16:41
  and then doing it and then you regret it.
• 1:16:44
  Yeah, of course. That's fun.
• 1:16:45
  It looks good though. Thank you, I like that one.
• 1:16:47
  Piece That's a story. Thank you.
• 1:16:49
  It's gonna take a really long time to, like, grow.
• 1:16:53
  We're gonna get extensions up there.
• 1:16:55
  Oh, yeah. OK, Yeah.
• 1:16:57
  She's extended. She's extended girl.
• 1:16:59
  OK. TTTT so besties.
• 1:17:03
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• 1:17:04
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