Latest / Do You F*cking Mind? / 444. Tips on Light Therapy, Introversion & Productive Morning Routines (Headnoise)
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- 1:26Speaker 3: Hi, alexis big fan, longtime listener. I've just been listening
- 1:33Speaker 3: to your episode about how to harness cortisol for energy,
- 1:38Speaker 3: and you talk a lot about the importance of exposing
- 1:41Speaker 3: yourself to sunlight as soon as you can after you
- 1:44Speaker 3: wake up in order to get that spiking cortisol, which
- 1:47Speaker 3: is great in theory. However, I live in Scotland where
- 1:51Speaker 3: we don't get a lot of sunlight. Even in the
- 1:54Speaker 3: height of summer. It's more often than not cloudy and
- 1:59Speaker 3: gray and measurable. It's not very often that we get
- 2:05Speaker 3: sort of dinate suddenly.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Here.
- 2:09Speaker 3: So I was wondering if you had any ideas either
- 2:15Speaker 3: sort of artifacial sources of that same sort of light
- 2:20Speaker 3: that give the same effects, or alternative methods to get
- 2:25Speaker 3: that spaking cortisol. So yeah, if you've got any advice,
- 2:29Speaker 3: that would be great.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Thank you. Fucket an epic question. This is a really, really,
- 2:33Speaker 2: really good question because I've got a great answer for you.
- 2:36Speaker 1: So I think I'm pretty sure I've done an episode
- 2:40Speaker 1: where it's not the title of the episode though, so
- 2:43Speaker 1: I'm trying to think how I could find this so
- 2:44Speaker 1: I could reference it to you.
- 2:45Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll just talk about it now. Basically, very much.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Like you said, the importance of sunlight in the morning
- 2:54Speaker 1: is extremely important for the quartsol's spike, but also to
- 2:58Speaker 1: regulate your cicadi in rhythm. So we know the science
- 3:02Speaker 1: shows that regulated cicadian rhythm, the quarters of spike in
- 3:04Speaker 1: the morning thanks to this strong the largest source of
- 3:07Speaker 1: blue light you're ever going to get, which is from
- 3:09Speaker 1: the sun. Thanks to all of that helps with mood regulation,
- 3:14Speaker 1: you know, lowering rates of depression, helps with focus attention,
- 3:18Speaker 1: all of that to the extent that exactly like you
- 3:21Speaker 1: just mentioned, in countries where either the sunlight is really low,
- 3:25Speaker 1: especially in the winter months, or there are some countries
- 3:28Speaker 1: where the sun really isn't coming up at all, and
- 3:31Speaker 1: even if it does come up, it's extremely gloomy, it's
- 3:33Speaker 1: not bright enough. These people, like many individuals, report having
- 3:37Speaker 1: something called seasonal effective disorder, which is actually like seasonal depression.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Basically that goes away when the summer rolls around.
- 3:46Speaker 1: And then there's certain countries like you just said, where
- 3:48Speaker 1: even in the summer it's often going to be quite gloomy.
- 3:51Speaker 1: So what do they do in these situations, Because we
- 3:53Speaker 1: actually see a dip in people's moods and a spike
- 3:56Speaker 1: in depression when there is not significant source of sun
- 4:00Speaker 1: light and when you aren't able to kind of really
- 4:04Speaker 1: set your cicadian rhythm, a really healthy cicadian rhythm also
- 4:08Speaker 1: helps with your mood. There is something you can do
- 4:11Speaker 1: for that, and it is called light therapy. Now, there's
- 4:16Speaker 1: many different ways of doing it. So if you're like, oh,
- 4:18Speaker 1: I just want to expose myself to light, I'm sure
- 4:20Speaker 1: that you could get cheaper sources of this, but you
- 4:23Speaker 1: want to get it's like a light box. Now for
- 4:26Speaker 1: people that have seasonal effective disorder, they're exposing themselves to
- 4:29Speaker 1: a very strong source of blue light, kind of like
- 4:32Speaker 1: they're sitting not their whole body, but like their face
- 4:35Speaker 1: and in kind of this very strong light box where
- 4:38Speaker 1: it's filtering in a lot of blue light. And they
- 4:41Speaker 1: do this early in the morning or when they wake up,
- 4:44Speaker 1: and it kind of starts to wake up all the
- 4:47Speaker 1: centers and all those like, you know, all the neurochemicals
- 4:50Speaker 1: and neurotransmitters, that cascade of events that occurs in the
- 4:53Speaker 1: brain when you're exposed to sunlight in the morning. It's
- 4:55Speaker 1: mimicking that through this light exposure therapy. Now you might
- 5:00Speaker 1: want to go all the way and do something like that.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I actually don't know what the cost of these light
- 5:04Speaker 1: boxes are, but as long as you can find a
- 5:06Speaker 1: very strong source of a blue light that is going
- 5:12Speaker 1: to give you a similar effect, I'm going to link
- 5:15Speaker 1: in this episode some potential, you know, ideas for what
- 5:19Speaker 1: you could do, just in the show notes of this episode,
- 5:21Speaker 1: some potential ideas of what that light box therapy.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Even looks like.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I'm sure there's different pricing points, but one hundred percent
- 5:29Speaker 1: it exists. It is very much used in countries where
- 5:32Speaker 1: seasonal effective disorder goes up in those winter months. But again,
- 5:36Speaker 1: if you're living in a country where you're just not
- 5:37Speaker 1: getting consistent, adequate, significant sunlight in the mornings, this is
- 5:42Speaker 1: a great, great method and it mimics what the sun does.
- 5:46Speaker 1: It is a nice strong hit of flight to the
- 5:47Speaker 1: brain and it has that same kind of carry on
- 5:53Speaker 1: effect on the brain, on your circadian clock, on your mood.
- 5:57Speaker 1: They found that people that do this light therapy that
- 6:00Speaker 1: seasonal effective disorder, it actually significantly reduces the symptoms of
- 6:04Speaker 1: their seasonal effective disorder of that depression.
- 6:07Speaker 2: So please give it a go.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I'd love for you to try that out and then
- 6:13Speaker 1: report back to me and see if you found a difference.
- 6:15Speaker 1: At the very least, you should find that it definitely
- 6:18Speaker 1: helps you wake up more. I even find that even
- 6:21Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously we're very spoilt with a lot
- 6:24Speaker 1: of sun in Australia, so I cannot complain. But even
- 6:26Speaker 1: in winter, and especially with daylight savings and things like that,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know, the sun isn't as bright as early in
- 6:33Speaker 1: the morning. And I find that when I go up
- 6:37Speaker 1: to Queensland, which is a state that's north of where
- 6:40Speaker 1: I live. For those of you that aren't from Australia,
- 6:42Speaker 1: the sun rises a whole lot earlier because they don't
- 6:44Speaker 1: have daylight savings. And I am bouncing out of bed
- 6:46Speaker 1: at five point thirty in the morning because there's bright
- 6:47Speaker 1: sun coming in through the windows versus when it's darker
- 6:51Speaker 1: and gloomier in Sydney in winter until a little bit
- 6:53Speaker 1: later in the morning, and I struggled to wake up.
- 6:55Speaker 1: So I think it's very the sun plays such a
- 6:58Speaker 1: huge role in that energy and you know, intensity of
- 7:01Speaker 1: how you can wake up in the morning and feel
- 7:02Speaker 1: really good and you know alert, So great question give
- 7:06Speaker 1: that a go. I would love to hear if this
- 7:08Speaker 1: helps you. And also another thing that you can get,
- 7:12Speaker 1: which is separate to this therapy, is an alarm clock
- 7:16Speaker 1: which mimics a sunrise. I don't know if you've seen this,
- 7:19Speaker 1: but at the very least it helps bring.
- 7:21Speaker 2: In like really bright amounts of light into your bedroom.
- 7:24Speaker 1: So at least it helps you wake up, because waking
- 7:26Speaker 1: up in a dark room is always going to be
- 7:28Speaker 1: harder than waking up in a weldit room.
- 7:30Speaker 2: So it's like.
- 7:30Speaker 1: This this alarm clock that you set, say you want
- 7:32Speaker 1: to wake up at let's say, fucking six thirty. This thing,
- 7:36Speaker 1: it's like this little glowing light that mimics a sunrise,
- 7:39Speaker 1: and it starts to kind of turn on from maybe
- 7:41Speaker 1: like a six fifteen, and then by the time it's
- 7:43Speaker 1: six thirty, it is really brightly lighting up your room.
- 7:45Speaker 1: So that's another option that you could try as well.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Amazing. Thank you for your question, great, great question, sense
- 7:59Speaker 2: sense All right, next question.
- 8:03Speaker 4: Hi Alexa. This lover of the pod and I'm currently
- 8:07Speaker 4: listening to your new book, which is incredible, loved it
- 8:10Speaker 4: so far. Right now, I'm listening to I think it's
- 8:14Speaker 4: Module two, Chapter two, where you're talking about how we
- 8:17Speaker 4: kind of just like predispose ourselves to create his own
- 8:21Speaker 4: image of ourselves and what we're capable of, and hold
- 8:25Speaker 4: us back from the things maybe we want to do
- 8:27Speaker 4: because we feel that that's who we are. And that's
- 8:31Speaker 4: just kind of something that I've been struggling with lately
- 8:33Speaker 4: in terms of I feel like I'm quite an introverted person,
- 8:39Speaker 4: Like I can be extraded what I need to be,
- 8:40Speaker 4: but more so introverted and like struggle sometimes to come
- 8:45Speaker 4: out of my shelds, especially around people I don't know
- 8:47Speaker 4: too well, And I'd love to know maybe your tips
- 8:53Speaker 4: on how to break out of that, because I'm sure
- 8:58Speaker 4: for many other people as well, it can just be
- 9:00Speaker 4: this real, like gruppling anxiety of oh my god, Like
- 9:05Speaker 4: I know, I could just speak up right now in
- 9:07Speaker 4: this group discussion, but my body's physically like not letting
- 9:12Speaker 4: me do it. Yeah, I'd love to hear your advice, because, yeah,
- 9:18Speaker 4: I'm always wanting to speak out and give my thoughts
- 9:21Speaker 4: sometimes in those group discussions with people I may not
- 9:24Speaker 4: know as well, but just really struggle to.
- 9:28Speaker 2: And it's definitely a mindset thing. But I'd love to
- 9:31Speaker 2: know some tips awesome question. Love it.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So firstly, this so I think that one
- 9:42Speaker 1: of the modules that she's referring to as well, for
- 9:43Speaker 1: those of you that haven't listened to the audiobook or
- 9:45Speaker 1: read the book How To Chest Change, But this, yeah,
- 9:49Speaker 1: it has to do with like our identity and what
- 9:51Speaker 1: we really identify with, and sometimes we end up kind
- 9:54Speaker 1: of blocking ourselves or cock blocking ourselves from new things
- 9:57Speaker 1: that we could bring into our identity that would really
- 10:00Speaker 1: serve us, like personality traits as an example, or a
- 10:03Speaker 1: belief structure that would really serve us, but we so
- 10:07Speaker 1: heavily identify with old beliefs that then we find it
- 10:11Speaker 1: hard to try something new or to behave in a
- 10:13Speaker 1: new way, or to like you said, to speak up
- 10:16Speaker 1: in front of a group of people or whatever. So
- 10:18Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were an introvert, and I think
- 10:23Speaker 1: a lot of people think if I'm going to label
- 10:25Speaker 1: myself as an introvert, then that comes with all these
- 10:28Speaker 1: other things that an introvert is. But I want you
- 10:31Speaker 1: to say, like, get really clear on what an introvert
- 10:35Speaker 1: means to you, because an introvert, you can still be
- 10:39Speaker 1: the introvert but not be shy. I think A lot
- 10:41Speaker 1: of people think an introvert is shy, timid, reserved, can't
- 10:45Speaker 1: speak up for themselves with their mind.
- 10:47Speaker 2: But that's not the case at all.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Some of the boldest people that I know, who are
- 10:52Speaker 1: the most comfortable in their own skin, who have no
- 10:55Speaker 1: qualms in speaking their mind in a respectful manner, are introvert. Okay,
- 11:00Speaker 1: So firstly say that get clear on what an introvert
- 11:04Speaker 1: is in a way that makes you feel empowered. So
- 11:07Speaker 1: a good way of looking at introvert versus extravert. A
- 11:10Speaker 1: good way that I like to describe it as is
- 11:14Speaker 1: introverts have their batteries charged when they are more alone,
- 11:20Speaker 1: or when it's a one on one conversation, or more
- 11:22Speaker 1: so in solitude, and that like less social stimulation. That's
- 11:26Speaker 1: when their battery is charged. And when they go out
- 11:28Speaker 1: for social events. It has nothing to do with liking
- 11:30Speaker 1: it or not liking it. They might quite enjoy it,
- 11:33Speaker 1: but it's draining for them, it's exhausting. So it's it's
- 11:37Speaker 1: they can do it, but to an extent, and then
- 11:39Speaker 1: they're like, I've fucking reached my fucking limit.
- 11:41Speaker 2: I'm out of here.
- 11:41Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that they're shy tim it can't whatever.
- 11:44Speaker 1: So you could say to yourself, I'm an introvert. I
- 11:47Speaker 1: can do big social gatherings to an extent, and I
- 11:50Speaker 1: can really kind of maximize my time there and my
- 11:53Speaker 1: experience that it's going to be great. But I know
- 11:55Speaker 1: that ultimately, if I want to have my batteries recharged,
- 11:57Speaker 1: it's going to be in the more one on one
- 11:59Speaker 1: interactions or I really like my solitude. An extrovert, on
- 12:03Speaker 1: the other hand, it gets their batteries charged through social interactions,
- 12:07Speaker 1: through big group settings, through going out, being out and
- 12:09Speaker 1: abad in public with people, and they thrive of that, okay,
- 12:13Speaker 1: And then if they spend too much time alone, they
- 12:15Speaker 1: feel depleted.
- 12:16Speaker 2: I think that I'm an ambivert because.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I need both. I absolutely need my alone time. I
- 12:21Speaker 1: will die if I don't have like that mellow alone time.
- 12:25Speaker 1: But then I love the social side. So putting all
- 12:28Speaker 1: of that aside, reframe how you look at being an
- 12:31Speaker 1: introver at number one, because then it'll give you a
- 12:32Speaker 1: lot more power. You can sit in that power being
- 12:35Speaker 1: like I'm a very empowered introvert, okay, And then from there,
- 12:40Speaker 1: when you want to speak up in a group, you
- 12:43Speaker 1: want to think of like a lodder structure of what's
- 12:46Speaker 1: going to make me feel comfortable, and then I'm going
- 12:49Speaker 1: to try that behavior, and then once I get used
- 12:51Speaker 1: to that behavior, what can make me feel comfortable again.
- 12:53Speaker 1: So one thing that people do that a people pleases
- 12:56Speaker 1: or that get uncomfortable is that they will agree with
- 12:59Speaker 1: things that they don't necessarily really agree with, but they
- 13:02Speaker 1: will just be like, oh, yep, yep, nodding, And that's
- 13:05Speaker 1: the first step that you're like, well, I wish I
- 13:06Speaker 1: didn't do that because it's actually not the truth, and
- 13:08Speaker 1: I struggle. So the first step would be just don't agree.
- 13:12Speaker 1: You could say that's an interesting perspective, tell me more
- 13:15Speaker 1: about your perspective. No point are you agreeing, But you're
- 13:17Speaker 1: also not blatantly disagreeing, so you don't have that like, well,
- 13:20Speaker 1: I can't just straight up disagree or I can't straight
- 13:22Speaker 1: up Once you feel comfortable with that, then you can
- 13:26Speaker 1: start to say, that's interesting that you think that way
- 13:29Speaker 1: because I always.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Looked at it from this perspective.
- 13:32Speaker 1: That's when you can start to if you feel comfortable,
- 13:34Speaker 1: share it from your perspective, you know, So it's not
- 13:36Speaker 1: an attack of like I need to stop you right there.
- 13:39Speaker 2: This is what I'm gonna say.
- 13:41Speaker 1: You know, even even if you completely disagree with someone
- 13:44Speaker 1: or you want to speak your mind or your water whatever,
- 13:46Speaker 1: there's always really, you know, seamless ways that you can
- 13:51Speaker 1: do it that feel comfortable to you. But I would
- 13:54Speaker 1: recommend that you start, you know, with step one. Then
- 13:58Speaker 1: once that feels second edged, you then bring in step two,
- 14:01Speaker 1: then step three, then step four. Then you become really
- 14:03Speaker 1: good at debating absolute strangers in a very respectful way,
- 14:05Speaker 1: and you can have a lot of fucking fun if
- 14:07Speaker 1: the other person who is good at debating as well.
- 14:09Speaker 1: So that's what I would recommend. Number one, change your
- 14:12Speaker 1: mindset around what an introvert means to you, because you
- 14:15Speaker 1: can still be very empowered, very confident as an introvert.
- 14:18Speaker 2: And number two, ask yourself, what is.
- 14:20Speaker 1: The main behavior that I'm avoiding when I'm in these
- 14:22Speaker 1: social interactions? Is it I find that I end up
- 14:24Speaker 1: agreeing and nodding when I don't actually agree?
- 14:27Speaker 2: Is it?
- 14:27Speaker 1: Could I just say something that's relatively neutral, but I
- 14:31Speaker 1: still honor what I actually want to say and what
- 14:33Speaker 1: I actually believe when I'm in a social situation, so
- 14:35Speaker 1: I can say, you don't have to say I disagree
- 14:37Speaker 1: with you, you could say, how did you come to
- 14:40Speaker 1: that conclusion?
- 14:40Speaker 2: I'm really interested talk to me about whatever. You know, Like,
- 14:44Speaker 2: you get more out of people.
- 14:46Speaker 1: You start digging, and people love talking about themselves, so
- 14:48Speaker 1: they will start opening up to you and they're like, well,
- 14:50Speaker 1: the reason I came to to and then you can
- 14:52Speaker 1: just start asking questions. The amount of times that I
- 14:54Speaker 1: don't even have to blatantly disagree with someone, I just
- 14:57Speaker 1: ask them all these questions without.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Ever once agreeing with them.
- 15:01Speaker 1: And they by the end of it, I think they
- 15:04Speaker 1: gather that we're not on the same page, but they
- 15:06Speaker 1: also gather that I'm interested enough to know where they're
- 15:09Speaker 1: coming from. And then they probably will start asking you
- 15:12Speaker 1: about your perspective and that's where you can start to
- 15:15Speaker 1: talk about differences in perspectives and opinions and things like that. Okay,
- 15:18Speaker 1: So I think that's how I would approach it. Your
- 15:22Speaker 1: mindset around what you believe you are, because you could
- 15:25Speaker 1: be very confident into it, and also you know tactics
- 15:32Speaker 1: social tactics that will help. Also, there's an episode that's
- 15:35Speaker 1: now I'm because I'm banking so many episodes, I don't
- 15:38Speaker 1: know if this episode is about to come, or if
- 15:40Speaker 1: it's just come. But if it hasn't, it's this is
- 15:42Speaker 1: all about charisma, and I think it's coming up. I
- 15:48Speaker 1: don't know the order that I'm recording these episodes, but
- 15:50Speaker 1: it is about how charisma is learnt, and I teach you,
- 15:54Speaker 1: like the twelve main traits of how to become charismatic.
- 15:58Speaker 1: So if that episode has come out, definitely listen to it.
- 16:00Speaker 1: If it hasn't yet come out, it's going to come
- 16:02Speaker 1: out in the next couple of weeks, so listen to
- 16:05Speaker 1: the episode because it will also help you with these
- 16:07Speaker 1: specific social settings where you are having conversations with people
- 16:11Speaker 1: that you absolutely don't know, where I teach you how
- 16:13Speaker 1: to become more charismatic, irrespective if you're an introvert.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Or if you're an extrovert. So thank you so much
- 16:19Speaker 2: for that question. I loved it. Next final one.
- 16:25Speaker 5: Hi, Alexis, I heard a quote that was like, your
- 16:29Speaker 5: first hit of dopamine in the morning is the source
- 16:32Speaker 5: of dopamine that you were craved throughout the rest of
- 16:34Speaker 5: the day. I was wondering if you could talk more
- 16:37Speaker 5: about that and morning routines in general. I would love
- 16:41Speaker 5: a whole episode on morning routines.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.
- 16:45Speaker 5: I love the podcast.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sending in that question. Okay,
- 16:49Speaker 1: that's a really it's interesting question. I don't know if
- 16:52Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with it, but I get
- 16:55Speaker 1: a kind of get where where it's stemming from.
- 16:57Speaker 2: So I'll elaborate in a second.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Also, I really do I need to do an entire
- 17:00Speaker 1: episode on morning routines, So I will definitely write that
- 17:03Speaker 1: down because I'd like to do one on like various
- 17:06Speaker 1: different kinds of morning routines that work for different people,
- 17:09Speaker 1: because I've shared my specific one, which is probably going to.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Change very soon because I'm gonna have fucking children.
- 17:15Speaker 1: But yeah, so my morning routine is going to evolve
- 17:18Speaker 1: many times over in the near future. But yes, I
- 17:21Speaker 1: need to do an episode on that. Okay, when it
- 17:24Speaker 1: comes to dopamine, the reason why I kind of agree,
- 17:28Speaker 1: but then I kind of disagree with that quote is
- 17:31Speaker 1: it's a lot more loaded than that. So when we
- 17:35Speaker 1: lean and okay, what I mean by this is if
- 17:38Speaker 1: when you wake up, the first source of dopamine is
- 17:41Speaker 1: a kind of addictive, quick hit, no effort needed dopamine,
- 17:46Speaker 1: like cheap dopamine, like checking your phone, which is the
- 17:49Speaker 1: main one for most people, you are way more likely
- 17:53Speaker 1: to seek that kind of dopamine for the rest of
- 17:56Speaker 1: the day.
- 17:56Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why.
- 17:57Speaker 1: It's not because, oh it's the first thing I did
- 18:00Speaker 1: the day, and now that sets the tone. It's because
- 18:02Speaker 1: of what happens when we go for that kind of
- 18:04Speaker 1: dopamine versus arched dopamine. So you want to look at
- 18:07Speaker 1: dopamine as kind of a spike and then a return
- 18:11Speaker 1: to baseline.
- 18:13Speaker 2: Now, when we engage in addictive behaviors that require.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Little to no effort, gambling, being on your phone, obviously,
- 18:23Speaker 1: chemical addictions are next level hits of dopamine, we get
- 18:28Speaker 1: quite a significant sharp spike because there was no effort involved,
- 18:31Speaker 1: so it's not a gradual lift of dopamine. It's bang
- 18:33Speaker 1: straight away. And then the issue is that then we
- 18:37Speaker 1: get a drop below the baseline, so the dopamin doesn't
- 18:40Speaker 1: just return to where it was before you opened.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Your social media.
- 18:44Speaker 1: It drops below that, and then there's a bit of
- 18:46Speaker 1: a wash out period before your dopamine goes kind of
- 18:48Speaker 1: back up to that baseline and then back up again.
- 18:51Speaker 1: The only way to get it back up again straight
- 18:53Speaker 1: away is to engage in yet another addictive behavior.
- 18:56Speaker 2: That is why we look.
- 18:58Speaker 1: At our phone's tourne like, then weck our phone, put
- 19:00Speaker 1: it down, and then within moments, without even realized back,
- 19:02Speaker 1: we're looking at our phone again because we.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Want that hit again.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Okay, Now, dope mean in addition to that is not
- 19:09Speaker 1: only just your like addictive chemical or you know it
- 19:12Speaker 1: don't mean, is your willingness to do something. It is
- 19:15Speaker 1: the motivation chemical. And what I mean by motivation chemical
- 19:19Speaker 1: is that we believe that when we're about to do something,
- 19:22Speaker 1: dopamine is released, not just once we've got that reward,
- 19:26Speaker 1: but in anticipation of that reward. So that's why dopamine
- 19:30Speaker 1: is your willingness to do something. So if you do
- 19:33Speaker 1: something that's going to deplete your dopamine below your baseline,
- 19:37Speaker 1: you are going to be less willing, less will power
- 19:43Speaker 1: to do other things. So that's why I agree and
- 19:46Speaker 1: I disagree with that statement. So it's real, it's true,
- 19:49Speaker 1: but it's a lot more complicated than that, if that
- 19:51Speaker 1: makes sense. So if I'm going for the quick hits
- 19:54Speaker 1: of dopamin, then I'm likely to chase those quick hits
- 19:57Speaker 1: for the rest of the day because I don't have.
- 19:59Speaker 2: The willpower anymore.
- 20:00Speaker 1: I've depleted my willingness to do other things, the harder
- 20:03Speaker 1: things that require effort.
- 20:05Speaker 2: On the flip side, if I wake up.
- 20:07Speaker 1: And I chase effort based dopamine, I go out in
- 20:11Speaker 1: the sun, I go for a run, I meditate, I
- 20:16Speaker 1: do a workout, whatever it is.
- 20:18Speaker 2: That I choose to do.
- 20:20Speaker 1: I'm getting this nice gradual not that gradual, by the way,
- 20:24Speaker 1: Like it's still a nice spike. It's not that slow,
- 20:26Speaker 1: but it's not an instant hit. So I get this
- 20:28Speaker 1: gradual bang releases dopamine.
- 20:31Speaker 2: It goes up. It feels really good, and.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Then it starts to taper, but it doesn't drop. It
- 20:35Speaker 1: doesn't dip below the baseline where I feel, Oh, I'm depleted,
- 20:38Speaker 1: I've got no no.
- 20:39Speaker 2: It stays relatively healthy.
- 20:41Speaker 1: So then when we get home from the workout in
- 20:44Speaker 1: the sun and whatever, the exposure to sunlight and all
- 20:47Speaker 1: of that, we're not then.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Like, oh, I don't want to do anything.
- 20:51Speaker 1: We've got more dopamine than when we had before, and
- 20:54Speaker 1: therefore we are willing to do things that require effort.
- 20:58Speaker 2: We are our willingness to do our will.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Power literally goes up because of how we have harnessed
- 21:05Speaker 1: the different kind like it's still dopein dope mean is
- 21:07Speaker 1: doping across the board, But the release rate of that
- 21:10Speaker 1: dopamine will determine how willing we are to do things
- 21:14Speaker 1: versus how willing we are to reach for the next
- 21:16Speaker 1: big hit of the next quick hit. So if you
- 21:18Speaker 1: feel that I just have no willpower in the morning,
- 21:21Speaker 1: no like desire, then look at which kind of are
- 21:25Speaker 1: you going for a cheap hit, quick instant gratification dopamine
- 21:29Speaker 1: or is it earned And that's kind of going to
- 21:32Speaker 1: really differentiate how you're going to feel moving on throughout
- 21:35Speaker 1: the day. And something that I found, at least anecdotally
- 21:39Speaker 1: for me and for a lot of listeners that have
- 21:41Speaker 1: written in and also stated the same thing. But I'm
- 21:44Speaker 1: I don't know if this studies backing it, so I
- 21:46Speaker 1: need to research it, but at least anecdotally is that
- 21:49Speaker 1: I have found that when my mornings are focused around
- 21:51Speaker 1: the slower release of dopamine, exercise, walking, all of that,
- 21:55Speaker 1: and then waiting a few hours ideally one hour, but two.
- 21:59Speaker 2: If if I can get two hours, it's even better off.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Not being on my social media, not being on my phone.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Then I find that even when I do go on
- 22:07Speaker 1: my phone, it's less a for thrill, right because I've
- 22:11Speaker 1: already feel quite fulfilled in my day. I can be
- 22:14Speaker 1: on my phone, but I'm like, yep, this is good,
- 22:16Speaker 1: it feels nice, but it's.
- 22:17Speaker 2: Much of a much I don't have to have it. Okay.
- 22:20Speaker 1: So when you start doing things that make you feel
- 22:22Speaker 1: fulfilled in the day, exercise, interacting with people, good conversations,
- 22:27Speaker 1: working on something that requires effort that matters to you.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Are you writing a book, are you writing music, are
- 22:31Speaker 1: you practicing an instrument, whatever it is, those things are
- 22:36Speaker 1: going to make you feel quite fulfilled. That then when
- 22:37Speaker 1: you do have those addictive things right in front of you,
- 22:39Speaker 1: they're just going to be less addictive.
- 22:41Speaker 2: It's kind of like a take it or leave it
- 22:42Speaker 2: kind of thing. Go listen to my Rap.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Park episode if you want more insight into that subject
- 22:47Speaker 1: that I'm about feeling more fulfilled. So that was great,
- 22:51Speaker 1: great question, And yeah, in a way, yes that statement
- 22:57Speaker 1: is true, but it's just a little bit more complicated
- 22:59Speaker 1: and deep in that. So hopefully they give you a
- 23:01Speaker 1: good explanation for what I mean. Thank you so much
- 23:04Speaker 1: for sending in your voice messages. I love the voice messages.
- 23:09Speaker 1: That is all for today's episode. As always, guys, remember
- 23:12Speaker 1: be kind to yourself, be kind.
- 23:14Speaker 2: To your brain.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Don't take shit from anyone, and especially don't take shit
- 23:18Speaker 1: from yourself.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Don't kan