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90 Day Fiancé Season 12 Episode 8 “Love Is a Work in Progress” Part 1 · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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Speaker 1: Hey, fun time, peeps. My name is Chris Farah. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to Vanity Farah, where today we're talking ninety day Fiance.
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Speaker 1: It's season twelve, it's episode eight. Love is a work
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Speaker 1: in progress. Okay, I mean yeah, that's true. Life is
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Speaker 1: a work in progress. This episode was interesting for sure,
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Speaker 1: and it's a Katie themed episode. Lots of I'm sure
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Speaker 1: chatter about her behavior and it's warranted. It's warranted chatter.
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Speaker 1: And at the same time, some people like Paula and
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Speaker 1: Thomas really don't have a lot going for them. I
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Speaker 1: am going to make my prediction now that the only
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Speaker 1: couple that should be together is Malory and Rashid, only one,
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Speaker 1: the only one that makes sense. Okay, But we're going
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Speaker 1: to start my babes with Edward and Marissa. So obviously
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk online about Edward doing some
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Speaker 1: like Sammy Sosa style skin bleaching. The Reddit streets have
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Speaker 1: been like, have you noticed that his face is significantly
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Speaker 1: wider than the rest of his body and in a
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Speaker 1: way that indicates that there is some sort of chemical
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Speaker 1: treatment happening. And you know, I have to probably hard
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Speaker 1: agree as well as say I don't have an expertise
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Speaker 1: about talking about this kind of stuff. And there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of parts of there's a lot of cultures that
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Speaker 1: you know, super prioritize skin color in that kind of way.
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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I'm like American an Arab and
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Speaker 1: so I still come from a place where it's like
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Speaker 1: people want to be tanned, because yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 1: so it's interesting. It's just it feels very different from
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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do, you know, just to be
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Speaker 1: a little tanner and then you know, like have like
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Speaker 1: an evenness, kind of a caramelness to my skin. It
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Speaker 1: makes me look better. So it's but you know, here
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Speaker 1: we are, Edward doesn't feel that way. Edward's seemingly bleaching
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Speaker 1: his skin. He doesn't have to. In fact, he shouldn't.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know the process of skin bleaching enough
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Speaker 1: to be like if he just stopped, now, would his
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Speaker 1: skin you know, exfoliate, regenerate, and would it come back
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Speaker 1: the way it was? Does? He just like, you know,
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Speaker 1: can you do that anyway? Okay, So this was a
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Speaker 1: hard walk. Sorry, this was a hard watch. Let's bring
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Speaker 1: it up. So he feels like he has nothing to
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Speaker 1: do and he wants to be useful, and she certainly
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Speaker 1: wants him to be useful, and she's mad when he
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Speaker 1: doesn't do anything and mad when he does do something,
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Speaker 1: and so he's like, I gotta do things, okay. And
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Speaker 1: then he's like, well, since I can't make any money,
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to try and do things around her
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Speaker 1: house that she would normally pay for, and I'll get
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Speaker 1: it done. And we're like, oh, okay, you know, and
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Speaker 1: he seemingly knows his way around a hammer and some nails.
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Speaker 1: We're like, oh, okay, cool. And he is fixing the
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Speaker 1: fence and he says that the person that previously fixed
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Speaker 1: the fence was an imbecile, and we're like, oh okay, Edward, good,
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Speaker 1: you have like wherewithal about fixing fences. You can like
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Speaker 1: see what's good work and what's not good work. We're like,
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Speaker 1: oh great, this is this is hopefully a good thing.
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Speaker 1: So he does fix it, and then he brings her out,
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Speaker 1: and then he fixed it biden by making it so
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Speaker 1: you can't open the fence, which is not fixing it.
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Speaker 1: And we're assuming that he would know that this very bossy,
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Speaker 1: particular woman that he is fucking would want something done
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Speaker 1: a certain way. We can pick that up, and we're like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is your valiant effort to do that. Marissa looks
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Speaker 1: at it asks him why I won't be able to
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Speaker 1: be open. He says, that's how he fixed it. She
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Speaker 1: is unimpressed by that answer, and she also is upset
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Speaker 1: because she keeps giving him excuses like what if the
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Speaker 1: gardeners need to come in through that? What if this
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Speaker 1: needs to happen, He's like, just come through the airway.
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Speaker 1: It's decidedly a different point of view on how to
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Speaker 1: do things. It's like, you have to be taught to
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Speaker 1: do something well, and you have to want to do
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Speaker 1: something well, and you want to be able to be
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Speaker 1: on the same wavelength of what But it looks like
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Speaker 1: to accomplish something that you know truly benefits all Because
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Speaker 1: I would hazard that he worked this whole time to
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Speaker 1: fix this gate when he didn't fix it, So like,
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Speaker 1: why did he even put that much effort into something
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't going to be fixed? Because if he
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Speaker 1: was like, look, I tried to fix it and then
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Speaker 1: I realized I can't because your wood's dilapidated or this
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Speaker 1: or that, Like it would have been better for him
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Speaker 1: to tell her why it was too difficult, as opposed
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Speaker 1: to saying the last person that fixed it was an imbecile,
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Speaker 1: and then you say you fixed it, but you didn't
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Speaker 1: fix it. So then they go to the other fence
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Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, well what'd you do here? And
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Speaker 1: he really just got border would or whatnot, like a
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Speaker 1: banister that she didn't need to use or I guess
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Speaker 1: was extra, and he just slapped it across the front
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Speaker 1: of the fence haphazardly. And as much as I'm on
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Speaker 1: his side, you know, with how mean she is and
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Speaker 1: how like controlling she is, when I saw his workmanship,
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, Edward, No that's not good enough. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not good enough. I feel bad
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Speaker 1: to say that, and like maybe we just have to, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, reshape some viewpoints. But if you say you're
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Speaker 1: going to do something and it looks that shoddy, and
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Speaker 1: you know it does, then you have to be honest
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Speaker 1: about it, because I don't know if I can trust
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Speaker 1: you for other things. Yeah, it's definitely a missmash of
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Speaker 1: different woods. It definitely doesn't look good. And at the
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Speaker 1: same time, I would need to know what work he's
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Speaker 1: done before, because we only know Edward as someone who
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Speaker 1: is like a vivacious activities like you know, sorry, activities
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Speaker 1: host at like a hotel or something. I mean to me,
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Speaker 1: this person has to like, you know, should get like
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Speaker 1: a karaoke job or something like that. He has to
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Speaker 1: be someone having, you know, a good time and also
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Speaker 1: making sure other people have a good time around him.
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Speaker 1: But Marissa is unimpressed, like I said, and she's upset
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Speaker 1: by this, and we like know she's going to be
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Speaker 1: And I don't quite understand how Edward thought that this
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Speaker 1: was going to be okay. Knowing this kind of woman.
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Speaker 1: He says that she's a lot different in America than
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Speaker 1: she was in the dr And it's like, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: guys were staying in the lap of luxury, and if
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Speaker 1: she wanted to complain, she could to someone she was paying,
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Speaker 1: and then you just got to be there while she complained,
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Speaker 1: you know, like it was never about you, It was
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Speaker 1: about whatever her eggs that morning. She of course keeps
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Speaker 1: saying that she is wondering whether she's taking on another
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Speaker 1: child in this life, that she wants him to be
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Speaker 1: like a strong man, that she wants him to be
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Speaker 1: self sufficient, and you know, I understand where she's coming from.
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Speaker 1: But I wonder what it was like when she was
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Speaker 1: with him outside of the resort, because assumingly she went
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Speaker 1: to the dr and then spent some time like away
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Speaker 1: from the resort, like in his daily life. And what
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Speaker 1: did she see there that made her think that this
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Speaker 1: was a possibility for him. Was he holding down, you know,
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Speaker 1: like his mom's household in such a way that she
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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this person knows how to take care
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Speaker 1: of people and himself. I don't know. Oh, she is like,
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Speaker 1: this fence looks trashy and the neighbors are going to
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Speaker 1: think that I'm poor. And he's like, who cares? They
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Speaker 1: don't pay the bills, And she's like, right, I do,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you right now, you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to pay another bill, and the bill is going to
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Speaker 1: be for a fence person to come fix all this. Also,
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Speaker 1: can you please pay a bill at like a pottery
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Speaker 1: barn for some serve wear? Marissa is very interesting. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I whether she just believed him that he was going
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Speaker 1: to go outside with like one makita and one hammer
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Speaker 1: and get all this done, you know, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: or if she knew that he was going to do
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Speaker 1: a shitty job, a shoddy job, and was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's put this on TV. She is right though, that
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Speaker 1: it doesn't look good and that if this was my home,
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Speaker 1: I also would be like, no, no, We're going to
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Speaker 1: have to find you something else you can do around
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Speaker 1: the home. Listen, he wants to cook, he wants to
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Speaker 1: and I feel like, maybe just let him cook, like gorilla,
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Speaker 1: let him cook. You know, he also wants to take
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Speaker 1: care of the kids and be around the kids. But like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that she really wants him to have a
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Speaker 1: skill or trade that makes him feel confident that he
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Speaker 1: can like do, and or for him to know what's
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Speaker 1: in her mind at all times and what she expects,
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Speaker 1: because I'm assuming that she knows that there might not
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Speaker 1: be extra wood that perfectly matches her fence in her garage.
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Speaker 1: So where does she think that he was going to
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Speaker 1: get the extra wood? Like from like, because it doesn't
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Speaker 1: feel like she took him to home depot for this job.
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Speaker 1: It seemingly seems like she should have, like she if
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Speaker 1: she had taken to home depot and then just being
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Speaker 1: like here by this would so that you know, you
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Speaker 1: can all the fence could be the exact same or
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Speaker 1: you know, patched in some way that would have been better.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if she was just testing him to
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Speaker 1: see if he can get this done to her liking,
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Speaker 1: and then he failed that test. He's like, she's always
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Speaker 1: cutting me down. I'm like, well, yes, but about the fence,
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Speaker 1: she's right, and now she has to cut down the
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Speaker 1: whole fence. After she sees the fence, she's like, and
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Speaker 1: can you clean this up? And there's like a big,
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Speaker 1: like dirty black wicker table and chair set. I want
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Speaker 1: to be like, where did that come from? And why
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Speaker 1: does he have to clean that up? Yeah, he feels
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Speaker 1: like he is just trying to, you know, appease her
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Speaker 1: in whatever way possible, and it like is a knowing
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Speaker 1: for him because he can't even have loud face times
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Speaker 1: with his family anymore, and that brings his spirits up.
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Speaker 1: So the next shot is that they're driving to New
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Speaker 1: York because she has to go back to work. We're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: you know, and when you're your two day a week job,
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Speaker 1: you know when or why she got fired? I'm not
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Speaker 1: quite sure. Okay, but it's good news because she's eating
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Speaker 1: a gram cracker and Graham crackers are great, and he's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't want a gram cracker. Those are stupid. She's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: but they're good. And so then he has a gram
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Speaker 1: cracker and he's like, yeah, you know what, You're right,
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Speaker 1: Graham Crackers are great, really great crackers. I enjoy them.
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Speaker 1: They're almost like American digestives. Okay, he's going to be
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Speaker 1: in New York all by himself, and he is excited.
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Speaker 1: In fact, he keeps saying that he's going to be free,
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Speaker 1: which is an interesting word to say because it's like
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Speaker 1: if I was going to go to a major, beautiful
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Speaker 1: city for the first time that I've always wanted to
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Speaker 1: be in, my first thought was, oh, I'll be free here.
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Speaker 1: My first thought would be like, oh, I can't wait
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Speaker 1: to explore or see this or whatnot. But like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: his first and foremost is that he gets to be
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Speaker 1: free from her, from her like judgment, whatnot. And then
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Speaker 1: what happened was he doesn't have credit cards, like we know,
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Speaker 1: because he's not an American citizen, Like, you know, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't why would he have, you know, I'm a full
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Speaker 1: on like Chase Sapphire. But this is a weird conversation
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Speaker 1: where she's like, okay, well, then how are you gonna
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Speaker 1: get around? He's like, I have a couple hundred dollars bills,
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Speaker 1: but he left them at the house. So she's like, okay, well,
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Speaker 1: how are you going to pay for things in New
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Speaker 1: York then? And we're just supposed to believe that he
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Speaker 1: walks around as an adult male without any sort of
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Speaker 1: wallet accouterments. He says he doesn't have a wallet, which
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Speaker 1: is like, okay, funny, you don't have a wallet, but
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Speaker 1: do you have the things that are in a wallet? Cash?
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Speaker 1: He's credit card and I'm sorry, idea of some kind
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Speaker 1: or like paperwork passport he should be, you know, god
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Speaker 1: bless having some sort of passport around him and or
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Speaker 1: like a photo slash copy of a passport. He doesn't, though,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have his cash on him, and that gives
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Speaker 1: her pause, and it, unfortunately also gives me pause because
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Speaker 1: he is an older gentleman. This is not like a
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Speaker 1: twenty three year old. This is someone who walks around
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Speaker 1: all the time. And maybe he's like, I don't need
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Speaker 1: cash where I am most of the time, but we
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Speaker 1: have to assume that he has the wherewithal to know
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Speaker 1: that in New York City, you need stuff? Was he
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Speaker 1: just not gonna eat all day? Did he expect her
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Speaker 1: to give him like a twenty? Like? Is he like
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Speaker 1: Alison da Shay, like I'm gonna get ten dollars or
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Speaker 1: the Biscuits or my family? She says, they live very
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Speaker 1: different lifestyles. We know, but we thought you already understood this.
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Speaker 1: She definitely talked about and is right that they are
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Speaker 1: different people. But I still don't know where and where
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Speaker 1: she feels like he wins Immerius's mind. What are the
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Speaker 1: heroic acts that Edward does that makes her like fall
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Speaker 1: in love with him. I'm not saying that like every
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Speaker 1: female has to look at a man and be like
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Speaker 1: he's a hero, but like, there are things when you
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Speaker 1: like someone that you feel like in dear them to you.
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Speaker 1: And it usually is like ways in which they succeed
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Speaker 1: in areas of their lives. And it can be like
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Speaker 1: when I say succeed, it can be like and how
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Speaker 1: kind and compassionate they are to people in how they
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Speaker 1: connect with people, and you know the way that they
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Speaker 1: do this one talented thing, the way they play guitar,
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Speaker 1: the way that they you know, it's like, what are
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Speaker 1: the things that he does that she looks at and like,
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Speaker 1: you know, when she's in witness of She's like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, yes he did it. He is awesome. It
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Speaker 1: can't just be having sex with her, and if it is,
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Speaker 1: that's not good enough and why wouldn't she know that? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so she's just like, I don't have bandwidth more so
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Speaker 1: than in the crazy parts of my day to be
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Speaker 1: able to take care of you as well. And he's like,
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Speaker 1: what I mean when you say that you're choosing your life.
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Speaker 1: You're a grown hoss woman. So if you don't have bandwidth,
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Speaker 1: that's on you for doing too much. And she he
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Speaker 1: does not like this answer, because in her mind, she
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Speaker 1: wants him to be like, maybe, don't worry. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to cause too much strain on you. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to step up and take this off your play and
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Speaker 1: take that off your play. You don't have to worry
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Speaker 1: about me. I know how to bring cash around and
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Speaker 1: move in this world. And that's what she wants him
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Speaker 1: to say, but what he hears is like a spoiled
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Speaker 1: brat complaining about her life that she chooses to live
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Speaker 1: every day. He's like, if you don't want this job,
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Speaker 1: let's go get some miniatures and you can manifest a
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Speaker 1: new job. Okay, it doesn't look good for them, it
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Speaker 1: truly doesn't. I mean it. Also, I think that this
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Speaker 1: is how I choose whether I like a couple. Could
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Speaker 1: I spend time with them, like over dinner, like would
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Speaker 1: I be like charmed by them in a soul setting?
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Speaker 1: And you know, with them Marissa and Edward, I truly wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to hear her talk to him or
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Speaker 1: put him down. I wouldn't want to see him roll
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Speaker 1: his eyes because he knows that she like is too much.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to see you know, him do something
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Speaker 1: he thinks he does well and in fact it's not
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Speaker 1: at least up to snuff for her. And I can
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Speaker 1: recognize that, you know what I'm saying. Whereas like you would,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I would be so happy to have a
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Speaker 1: meal with Rashid. He's so funny to me. Okay, let's
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Speaker 1: move on. Okay, Katie and Josh, so he's like outside
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Speaker 1: with her and Ryan. And Ryan has just dropped that
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Speaker 1: he talks to Katie and he's here because he knows
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Speaker 1: that she is dealing with whatever she's going to want
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Speaker 1: in her life and Josh is like, well, what we're
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Speaker 1: doing is we're going to get married, and Katie is like,
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Speaker 1: I think so, which is a bad sign. Then Katie
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Speaker 1: admits that she is the problem. She says it like
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Speaker 1: I'm the problem. He's like, well, no, I think it's
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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. We're like, okay, you know. It's like, Josh,
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Speaker 1: your problem is you don't stand up for yourself or
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Speaker 1: assert your boundaries. But it's I mean, if that's your problem,
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Speaker 1: you don't respect yourself or the way that you want
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Speaker 1: to be treated enough to demand it low key in
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Speaker 1: a relationship. He's like, Josh to Ryan's like, why are
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Speaker 1: you here? And I told you I never wanted to
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Speaker 1: see you again. And Ryan's like, well, Katie is hard
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Speaker 1: to say no to that crazy bitch. She's so funny,
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Speaker 1: she's so great, she's so charming, she's so eccentric. He
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Speaker 1: can't say no to her, especially when you're drunk, and
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Speaker 1: especially when you want to get kissed as well and more,
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Speaker 1: and you have a drunk Katie being like, man, I
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Speaker 1: can't say no, no, I say no to you. I
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Speaker 1: won't say no to her. Josh takes this moment to
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Speaker 1: blame Ryan for the Katie cheating situation. He's like, you
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Speaker 1: knew we were together and you did the things anyway.
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Speaker 1: Katie's just there in the middle being like, yeah, he
20:27
Speaker 1: did the things anyway. See, like, I hate when people
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Speaker 1: seemingly blame the person that their lover cheated with instead
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Speaker 1: of their lover. Like I think it's a moot point
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Speaker 1: to even talk to Ryan. But also I feel like
20:48
Speaker 1: you see this a lot, you know, ladies doing like
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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like the Debbie getting mad
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Speaker 1: at Meadows social media co star and one post where
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Speaker 1: she's like, fuck that bitch, but you're just like, Nope,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what you should be saying to Meto. You know.
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Speaker 1: By the way, we don't have any Meto this episode,
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Speaker 1: which was devastating. I mean, I think that's what made
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Speaker 1: it not a great episode. Okay, anyway, So Katie's like,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about Ryan. We're just like
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Speaker 1: chill friends now, which is so like Generation Z or whatever.
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Speaker 1: We're just chill friends now. We're just chill friends as
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Speaker 1: supposed to fuck friends. So this talk ends with absolutely
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Speaker 1: no resolution, except now Josh and Katie are standing side
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Speaker 1: by side and she's like do you think I can
21:48
Speaker 1: make out with everyone we know? And he's like no,
21:52
Speaker 1: and she's clearly drunk and she's like, I've only had
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Speaker 1: one tequila and that's not true. And then she's like
21:57
Speaker 1: I want an espresso martini and he's like, how about
21:59
Speaker 1: walk her? And she's not happy with that answer, so
22:03
Speaker 1: she floats over to her other friends and then immediately
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Speaker 1: does like we can only be described as like a
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Speaker 1: weird full backbend to get at her friend's faces. No,
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Speaker 1: I find it. Sorry, it's oh I thought I have
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Speaker 1: a better picture. Okay, sorry. Anyway, Basically what happened was
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Speaker 1: she gets back and starts talking with Ryan, and I
22:37
Speaker 1: mean after he had his confrontation with Josh, she tries
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Speaker 1: to make out with Ryan. Ryan's like stop it, don't
22:46
Speaker 1: do it. And then Josh watches that happen, and then
22:51
Speaker 1: her other friend walks outside and is like, hey, Josh,
22:55
Speaker 1: what's your take on what's happening in there? And he
23:00
Speaker 1: asks this question we know. The producers are like, you
23:02
Speaker 1: need to go ask Josh a question because Josh has
23:04
Speaker 1: no friends, so they need someone to do this leg work,
23:07
Speaker 1: and this man's going to do it. And this is
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Speaker 1: the most produci producer led question, and the problem is
23:14
Speaker 1: you should give this guy like a little bit of
23:17
Speaker 1: a soft intro, like, hey, hey Josh, how are you man? Yeah,
23:24
Speaker 1: how's it been going? You get that table? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
23:27
Speaker 1: well you look nice. This is nice jacket. Yeah yeah.
23:31
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see, like how you're doing. Man.
23:34
Speaker 1: I know she's she's already you know, having fun in there.
23:37
Speaker 1: And then Josh is like, you saw that, and the
23:39
Speaker 1: guy's like, yeah, I saw, but what what are you thinking?
23:44
Speaker 1: You know, like that's the intro. You need to not
23:47
Speaker 1: have an abrupt Hey, Josh, what's your take on what's
23:51
Speaker 1: happening in there? What's your take? That's just so hosty. Meanwhile,
24:00
Speaker 1: her take is that she's like I am in normal mode,
24:04
Speaker 1: just kidding. I want to be in a crazy mode.
24:06
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, fully running around. This guy talks
24:11
Speaker 1: to Josh and he's like, you need to be respected
24:14
Speaker 1: and at some point you got to put your foot down.
24:15
Speaker 1: And Josh was like, well, you know, she's just so
24:19
Speaker 1: good at one in back hearts. I don't know what
24:21
Speaker 1: my problem is. It's either my timidness or it's britishness.
24:24
Speaker 1: And we're like mm m I guess I don't know
24:30
Speaker 1: if this guy. I think everyone's name is Ryan here
24:32
Speaker 1: and I wrote down I know Ryan's the other guy,
24:34
Speaker 1: and maybe this guy's name Ryan too. I think there's
24:36
Speaker 1: too many Ryan's. I forgot what this guy's name outside,
24:38
Speaker 1: But it's not the first Ryan, not the Ryan that
24:39
Speaker 1: she made out with that in Boston. But this other
24:41
Speaker 1: guy is like, Josh is not a manly man, is
24:45
Speaker 1: what he says? Yeah, that's true. And then she goes
24:51
Speaker 1: in and tries to make out with that guy and
24:53
Speaker 1: he's like nope, and he's like pushing her face. He's like, no, Katie,
24:58
Speaker 1: stop it, and she's like, what am I doing wrong?
25:02
Speaker 1: And Josh walks up and he like sees that, and
25:05
Speaker 1: she's like what I mean. This is one of the
25:12
Speaker 1: more bizarre scenes to witness, and it feels violating for
25:19
Speaker 1: us to watch it because we're either watching someone like
25:22
Speaker 1: in a psychosis or super hard dealing with OCD. But
25:26
Speaker 1: at the same time, she just keeps telling people that
25:29
Speaker 1: this is a problem, but then it keeps happening and
25:32
Speaker 1: no one seems to be able to do anything or
25:35
Speaker 1: help her through it. But also it's because she doesn't
25:39
Speaker 1: want to be helped through it. Like it doesn't seemingly
25:43
Speaker 1: seem like she wants to not be in a situation
25:49
Speaker 1: where she's drunk making out with people. It very much
25:53
Speaker 1: seems like she wants to be in a situation where
25:56
Speaker 1: she's drunk and has the like the excuse of alcohol
26:02
Speaker 1: to lessen her inhibitions and therefore make out with all
26:06
Speaker 1: the people and therefore feel the love and validation she
26:09
Speaker 1: really wants to feel. It's kind of like, and this
26:14
Speaker 1: is what's shitty about it. It's like someone on a
26:18
Speaker 1: season just being like, I'm an addict, I'm an addict,
26:21
Speaker 1: I'm an addict. And then what we keep watching is
26:24
Speaker 1: this person go score their drugs and then shoot up
26:29
Speaker 1: on camera over and over again. It's like intervention, I
26:33
Speaker 1: guess in that way. But it's a really hard watch because,
26:38
Speaker 1: you know, I think that it leads us with a
26:41
Speaker 1: bunch of questions like where is her psychologist? And does
26:47
Speaker 1: does she actually want help? Because she's cognitively, you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: able to understand her situation, but she's so defensive and
26:59
Speaker 1: she keeps putting herself in this situation and no one's
27:02
Speaker 1: helping her, and it's because they know she doesn't want
27:05
Speaker 1: help or she would get mad that like, we just
27:08
Speaker 1: keep watching it. It's so awkward. You would neither need
27:13
Speaker 1: her to just be like, you know what, I want
27:15
Speaker 1: to be single obviously, and then you can follow me
27:19
Speaker 1: on single life where I'm single and making out with
27:22
Speaker 1: all the people I want to and that's what's happening.
27:27
Speaker 1: Because I probably would watch that. I would watch it
27:30
Speaker 1: like it's only awkward for me in that she says
27:33
Speaker 1: that this is a problem and you know, and she's
27:36
Speaker 1: acknowledging it, and then she just won't fix it. But
27:38
Speaker 1: if she's like this is where I am. I'm a
27:40
Speaker 1: young girl and a guys fucking love me, and I like,
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, having fun in Portland and drinking, and this
27:45
Speaker 1: is what I want to do, it like, well, okay,
27:48
Speaker 1: because if you took away like the OCD and you
27:53
Speaker 1: took away that you were just like this girl likes
27:55
Speaker 1: getting drunk and making out with people. It's not so
28:00
Speaker 1: different from what other people are doing her age. They
28:03
Speaker 1: just don't think it's a problem. Like a lot of
28:08
Speaker 1: young kids live in cities and go out at night
28:11
Speaker 1: and like hook up with people. What makes it awkward
28:18
Speaker 1: is that she's like and I'm in a committed relationship
28:20
Speaker 1: with this dufist who really wants this relationship, and he
28:24
Speaker 1: refuses to tell me that it's that it's hurting him.
28:27
Speaker 1: That's the only annoying thing about watching the story. And
28:31
Speaker 1: I'm also like annoyed because she gets a lot of
28:34
Speaker 1: hate online and I get why. I get why, But
28:37
Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm like, she's doing herself no favors,
28:42
Speaker 1: but neither is Debbie. You know, for all of the
28:44
Speaker 1: Meto hate online, Debbie has done absolutely no favors for
28:48
Speaker 1: herself by continually allowing it. Debbie is the Josh where
28:55
Speaker 1: we just see their other uh choosing to do harm
29:01
Speaker 1: and they're like willing to put up with it. Like
29:05
Speaker 1: if Mito was just an obnoxious person that wanted to
29:08
Speaker 1: be an actor and had you know, foolish, delusional dreams,
29:12
Speaker 1: and we could just watch this person try and make
29:15
Speaker 1: it in Louisiana as opposed to La like, it would
29:18
Speaker 1: be like hilarious, right, and he'd be like prancing around
29:21
Speaker 1: and like you know, taking an acting class, and we'd
29:23
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this ridiculous person. Like it would be
29:26
Speaker 1: a little more lighthearted, except what makes it dark is
29:30
Speaker 1: that this person is using Debbie and like lying to
29:33
Speaker 1: her and this Debbie's getting so upset about it. Like
29:35
Speaker 1: that's what makes it a real toxic situation that those
29:41
Speaker 1: that are my thoughts, Those are my thoughts about that.
29:43
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. Okay, let's talk about
29:48
Speaker 1: Paula and Thomas. So she has been ordering more miniatures
29:58
Speaker 1: and he finds them to be a waste of time
30:01
Speaker 1: and a waste of cash, and she's like, they're my
30:06
Speaker 1: religion and sometimes I cry when I think about how
30:09
Speaker 1: much I love them. And he's like, oh my god.
30:11
Speaker 1: She's gotten a bunch of packages recently, and so they
30:13
Speaker 1: open one up and it's like a mini couch and
30:19
Speaker 1: she's like, I love it. He's like, how much was this?
30:22
Speaker 1: And she's like I got it on clearance, which is hilarious.
30:28
Speaker 1: It's something I would say too. She's like, I want
30:32
Speaker 1: a couch. So if you don't want me to have this,
30:36
Speaker 1: buy me a couch. It makes sense for her to
30:41
Speaker 1: want furniture, just like it makes sense for Josh to
30:45
Speaker 1: want furniture. People want to live in a space that
30:50
Speaker 1: looks and feels livable, and I don't think it's too
30:58
Speaker 1: much to ask if Tom miss can afford to get
31:01
Speaker 1: her a credit card, to just get her a fucking
31:03
Speaker 1: couch set. You can just go to living Space, as Josh,
31:08
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and get that done. Er
31:10
Speaker 1: Ashley's furniture. I mean, get a Memorial Day sale or something, Honey,
31:14
Speaker 1: go to Costco. By the way, it's so funny because
31:22
Speaker 1: he's complaining right about money to her and says that
31:24
Speaker 1: all her things that she buys are like so stupid
31:27
Speaker 1: and you know, it's not necessary. And then he at
31:29
Speaker 1: one point he sits down to three different huge ass
31:33
Speaker 1: monitors with like two different Rubik's cubes and they, you know,
31:41
Speaker 1: censor the screen so we can't see, but it's very
31:43
Speaker 1: obvious that he's playing some weird game. We're like, oh,
31:46
Speaker 1: that's what you spend your money on. Okay, He's like,
31:48
Speaker 1: it's my money. I don't know, I don't know why
31:50
Speaker 1: he's arguing with me in my head. So the good
31:53
Speaker 1: news is Paala has met two other Brazilians that live
31:56
Speaker 1: in the same building, Felix and Anderson. And Felix and
32:00
Speaker 1: Ander center are two cute gay guys that wear navy
32:03
Speaker 1: and have an apartment that they put a lot of
32:07
Speaker 1: time and energy to decorate, although it looks just kind
32:09
Speaker 1: of like the apartment that this building uses to sell
32:14
Speaker 1: other apartments. It's like a show piece apartment. All of
32:19
Speaker 1: their apartment has like modern furniture with an emphasis on shape.
32:24
Speaker 1: Some are just like planters on a square, and then
32:29
Speaker 1: there's a lot of circles happening. It's just like a shapely, geometric,
32:32
Speaker 1: modern kind of industrial looking apartment and it's not really
32:36
Speaker 1: real looking. But she, you know, goes in. She's like,
32:39
Speaker 1: I loved things that look staged. And she's like, see
32:42
Speaker 1: how you have furniture that's not what's happening in his apartment.
32:45
Speaker 1: He has nothing on the walls, there's no sconces to
32:47
Speaker 1: be had. He won't even get a rug, honey, he
32:49
Speaker 1: won't get a rug. And these two gay guys are like,
32:51
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking not, that's crazy, and you know they're right
32:55
Speaker 1: at the same time they're right, of course, It's like,
32:56
Speaker 1: I don't understand at this point why they're not like,
33:01
Speaker 1: have him pay us and will decorate for him. I
33:04
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes people just don't know how to decorate.
33:08
Speaker 1: I also just you know, here's a thing. Money is money,
33:10
Speaker 1: and it's annoying to spend but it's funny how when
33:13
Speaker 1: you see what someone can do with a better eye
33:17
Speaker 1: than you, you might not appreciate it at first, but
33:21
Speaker 1: then as you like accustom or acclimate your eye to
33:26
Speaker 1: their design choices, you'll start to see design choices in
33:30
Speaker 1: life that other people do, and then you can, I mean,
33:33
Speaker 1: really appreciate. For instance, you may go through your life
33:38
Speaker 1: and be like, I never need a clothing stylist, not necessary.
33:42
Speaker 1: I know what I like, I know what I want
33:44
Speaker 1: to wear whatever, God bless, I have good tapes people
33:47
Speaker 1: like what I wear. But the minute, if you do
33:51
Speaker 1: ever have like someone who truly knows style and like fashion,
33:55
Speaker 1: and like who works in it in such a way
33:58
Speaker 1: actually style you and actually like consider your body shape
34:02
Speaker 1: and tailor things. It's such a radically different experience, and
34:09
Speaker 1: it takes like a month after it happens for you
34:12
Speaker 1: to or at least for me, to see in the
34:15
Speaker 1: world how this manifests, how much better you look and
34:20
Speaker 1: feel in pictures when you're wearing those garments, and how
34:24
Speaker 1: you can see how other people who are styled or
34:26
Speaker 1: styled in such a way, how it does look better.
34:29
Speaker 1: It's almost like the details you don't see, but the
34:33
Speaker 1: same thing with an apartment or a home. Like if
34:36
Speaker 1: you think, you know, like you did a good job,
34:39
Speaker 1: and then you go into a space that has had
34:41
Speaker 1: an in tailor designer, you're like, oh, wallpaper okay, and
34:47
Speaker 1: this there's so many just different aspects that can really
34:50
Speaker 1: make a place look put fucking together that you just
34:54
Speaker 1: might not be, you know, accessible, like in your mind's eye,
34:58
Speaker 1: in your eye of like see things. I can be
35:01
Speaker 1: quite blind. I'm really talking about myself. I can be
35:04
Speaker 1: quite blind and think that something is good enough or
35:07
Speaker 1: whatnot until I see a professional do it and I'm like, oh,
35:13
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's hard though. It's hard to like no
35:17
Speaker 1: when want to spend money or whatever. So then they
35:19
Speaker 1: decide to do like a little outdoorsy warzy moment and
35:22
Speaker 1: they're skating. By the way, Paul I can skateboard, and
35:26
Speaker 1: I was so happy for her. If they're like in
35:29
Speaker 1: Venice or something, it looks real beach like, you know,
35:32
Speaker 1: like palm trees. He has like roller blades on. You know,
35:35
Speaker 1: it's quintessential. I've never been able to move, I've never
35:40
Speaker 1: been able to skate. I can't imagine being able to
35:45
Speaker 1: put on roller blades and just getting to a different place.
35:51
Speaker 1: It must be so freeing. But I, yeah, my body
35:56
Speaker 1: on wheels feels like I'm about to fall and hurt
35:59
Speaker 1: mysel health, and that'd be great. He is eternally upset
36:09
Speaker 1: that she isn't more appreciative of what he's done and
36:13
Speaker 1: what he's spent. He's like, I did the entire visa process,
36:16
Speaker 1: I printed everything out, I paid for everything. I gave
36:19
Speaker 1: her this credit card. She doesn't care. She just wants furniture,
36:24
Speaker 1: and her viewpoint is I just want what I had
36:27
Speaker 1: in Brazil. And this is the crux of their segment
36:32
Speaker 1: and all of their segments. It's interesting how unwatchable they are.
36:36
Speaker 1: Like I barely can tolerate them. I mean, I would
36:40
Speaker 1: fast forward them if I wasn't doing this podcast. The
36:43
Speaker 1: only times I fast for people is when they're like
36:45
Speaker 1: truly toxic or negative. And these people are just boring.
36:48
Speaker 1: They're just boring. Yeah, I really would like just a
36:58
Speaker 1: little more fun with them. I would like a little
37:00
Speaker 1: I would enjoy someone telling me what the fuck is
37:03
Speaker 1: up with what's going to happen in their storyline or
37:07
Speaker 1: why no fiance thought they were like watchable this whole time? Okay,
37:12
Speaker 1: my loves. There ends part one of this recap, and
37:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to go on to talk about Mallory and
37:19
Speaker 1: Rasheet and I still have Aisha and Malcolm, and I
37:23
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37:26
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