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- 0:00what's up everybody welcome to fanatically speaking
- 0:01i'm kent i'm log off i'm the log off legend and
- 0:04uh we're here to say everything that every fan
- 0:07is thinking but louder and probably a little
- 0:09crazier get ready this is fanatically speaking
- 0:12with kent and log off you know what's funny like
- 0:15i don't hate i don't i'm not a social media hater
- 0:18i'm a social media You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 0:23Like, I don't want people to think that I get
- 0:25on the internet and start hating people on social
- 0:27media. That's not what I do. The first half was
- 0:29absolutely horrible. You know, just inept offense,
- 0:35inept defense, special teams, you name it. I'm
- 0:38going to turn into Oprah. Why were you so angry?
- 0:43He sucks this season. This game, whatever. Whatever's
- 0:47going on, right? And the very next pitch, guess
- 0:49what they do? They double. Homer. And he's like,
- 0:52told you, Dad. Why are you always knocking down
- 0:54people? Listen, you got the highs and the lows.
- 0:57Yeah, so I knew that. You need the highs and
- 0:59the lows. So I do that, yeah. I'm trying to be
- 1:03the voice of reason here. I am what I am. What's
- 1:19up, everybody? Welcome to Fanatically Speaking.
- 1:21I'm Kent, co -host, promoter. I am Log Off, the
- 1:25Log Off legend, the hater of social media. I
- 1:27am the co -host and producer of the show. Once
- 1:29again, we are just a couple of fans making a
- 1:33podcast for fans, by fans, mainly about sports.
- 1:37And today's topic is we're going to get into
- 1:40the NFL again. Again. But a lot of topics. Again,
- 1:47it's going on. I mean, the NFL season is going
- 1:49on. But there's a lot of topics here about midseason,
- 1:52just about. So just kind of hit that midseason
- 1:55point and have some, like, you know, who's real,
- 2:01who's not real predictions from this point and
- 2:03other storylines going on in the NFL. Yeah, like
- 2:07a midseason review. if you will. I think that's
- 2:11how we have it worded. So yeah, just kind of
- 2:14going over the teams, looking at the tops of
- 2:15the division. I kind of wanted to let you start
- 2:18off because like my position on this is a little
- 2:22awkward. So I'm just kind of curious, just, just
- 2:25kind of what you got on this. I'll go ahead and
- 2:27let you cook. All right. Yeah. So, so as a, just
- 2:31looking at the teams right now, I'm just going
- 2:33to go by surprises. Obviously the Indianapolis
- 2:36Colts is a big one. You know, I don't think anybody
- 2:38had that on their bingo card. Daniel Jones performing
- 2:42very well. The Colts, the top team right now,
- 2:45or one of the, you know, in AFC. Yeah, I don't
- 2:50think we expected that. Texans are kind of middle
- 2:52of the road, up and down, but they're not showing
- 2:55me anything, even though I had high hopes for
- 2:58them this season. Let's see. The Dolphins are
- 3:01a train wreck. The Titans are trash. The Jets
- 3:04are trash. Even their owner thinks so. Well,
- 3:06at least the owner, Woody Johnson, thinks their
- 3:08quarterback is trash. Let's see. NFC, again,
- 3:14we go back to these quarterbacks performing well,
- 3:16who we probably gave up on. So the 49ers, a lot
- 3:20of injuries on that team, but yet still holding
- 3:23their own at this point. And at quarterback,
- 3:26Mack Jones. in place of Brock Purdy, has played
- 3:30really well, which is surprising. Sam Darnold
- 3:34in Seattle playing well. I still don't have hope
- 3:36for him in the playoffs, but again, that team
- 3:39is put together pretty well. A newer head coach.
- 3:42Let's see. The Panthers being over, you know,
- 3:45just being over 500 any point in the season.
- 3:48Let's see. The Saints, you know, of all the teams
- 3:51that are bad in the NFL or have bad records,
- 3:54the Saints. I feel like are in every game. No
- 3:59matter what the score, they try hard, they play
- 4:01hard. Maybe it's because Kellen Moore won a Super
- 4:05Bowl with the Eagles. I don't know. But I feel
- 4:07like they're doing a pretty good job, and I don't
- 4:10think a lot was expected of them. They got rid
- 4:13of Derek Carr and made him retire, even though
- 4:15he's not really retired apparently. They're in
- 4:18every game. I feel about watching them play or
- 4:20seeing their game than, you know, watching the
- 4:23Arizona blow leads or, you know, coaches pushing
- 4:27players, things like that. You know what I mean?
- 4:30Outside of injuries, you know, some teams are
- 4:33just not good. And that's like the Dolphins,
- 4:35the Jets, the Titans. The Browns are never going
- 4:39to be, you know, they're never good. They don't,
- 4:41again, they couldn't make up their mind on quarterback.
- 4:43The Raiders are not good. I won't do predictions
- 4:45yet. On from this point forward now, you know,
- 4:48we can change our picks for the Super Bowl. And
- 4:50obviously, I said I'm going to have to change
- 4:52my pick. You know, I was trying to go with the
- 4:55Texans. And that's going to change. And we can
- 4:58change it because we are going to change it based
- 5:00on where we're at right now in the seat. And
- 5:02from this point, but just as a review, I think
- 5:06I said, I just want to point out, I think quarterbacks,
- 5:09we gave up on our playing well. And quarterbacks
- 5:13who are getting paid big money. Some of them
- 5:15are not. That's fair. To you, Logoff. Yeah, I
- 5:21think all of that's fair. So just off the top
- 5:27of your head, you kind of went through both conferences.
- 5:30How many teams do you trust? How many teams do
- 5:35I trust? Hold on. Here's the thing. But I want
- 5:40to, but I'm holding your feet to the fire on
- 5:42this. I want a definite yes or no. The teams
- 5:46that I'm – I got you. No caveats. So the teams
- 5:49that you name, I trust them to advance in the
- 5:53playoffs. Go. You mean name teams? I need teams.
- 5:57Yeah, give me the names of teams that you trust
- 5:59moving forward for the rest of the season into
- 6:02the playoffs. Okay. So I just want to put this
- 6:06out there. In a previous episode when we talked
- 6:09about the NFL, I think – I had less teams, I
- 6:13believe, in the NFC that I believed in. I think
- 6:17I believe in more now. And then the AFC, I probably
- 6:22believe in less teams. It's like a flip -flop.
- 6:25So let's go. Okay. A team I believe in, again,
- 6:30I think this hasn't changed, the Kansas City
- 6:32Chiefs. Okay. Who else? The other team I believe
- 6:36in are the Buffalo Bills. Who else? I just mentioned
- 6:41them. I am now a believer in the Indianapolis
- 6:45Colts. Okay. Call me crazy. Call me crazy. I'm
- 6:48not calling you anything. Those are the only.
- 6:50So that's in the AFC. I really, I'm not finished
- 6:54though. Okay. Okay. That I believe can actually.
- 7:01Are we saying, like, believe we can go to the
- 7:03Super Bowl? You are wording this up. My question
- 7:05was specific and direct. My question was, give
- 7:10me the teams that you trust. Hold on. Give me
- 7:13the teams that you trust going forward the remaining
- 7:16of the season and into the playoffs. Okay, I'm
- 7:22going to take that as these are teams that can
- 7:24go to the Super Bowl. So those are my three in
- 7:26the AFC. Colts, Chiefs, Buffalo Bills. Okay,
- 7:29who do you have in the NFC? The good old Philadelphia
- 7:33Eagles. As mad as I get, as frustrated as I get,
- 7:37I do not give up, and I don't stop believing.
- 7:39I'd say the Buccaneers. Losing Mike Evans is
- 7:42going to affect them unless they make a deal.
- 7:45Tragic injury, man. I feel so bad for that dude.
- 7:47Yeah, yeah. I believe in the Eagles. I believe
- 7:51in the Detroit Lions. I believe in the Los Angeles
- 7:55Rams. Okay. Is that where it stops for you? And
- 8:00I thought I had more, and I know the Packers
- 8:02are up there, but I just don't believe in them.
- 8:06Okay, cool. All right, so I'm going to do a quick
- 8:09recap. So you got the Rams. So that's three in
- 8:12each. So you got the Rams, the Eagles. The Lions.
- 8:16And the Lions and the NFC and the AFC. You got
- 8:19the Chiefs. You got the Bills, the Indianapolis
- 8:22Colts. And the Colts. Okay. So that's six teams.
- 8:25All right. All right. I'll go. I don't trust
- 8:29none of these motherfuckers. Not any of these
- 8:33teams. All of these teams have had games where
- 8:37they have just showed us their ass, where they've
- 8:40made dumb mistakes. They've had bonehead turnovers,
- 8:44coaching gaffes, you know, calling timeout, not
- 8:47calling timeout, no special teams issue. Like
- 8:50just want all of the teams across the league.
- 8:53I don't trust anybody as far as I can throw them.
- 8:57And so it's easy to kind of crap on the bad team,
- 9:01but it's so many. And I'll have to look to see
- 9:04historically what this looks like. There are
- 9:07so many teams right now that are above 500 that
- 9:10it might be a record. Because there's a lot of
- 9:12teams that have winning records right now. So
- 9:15we've got Eagles, Packers, Lions, Bears, Bucks,
- 9:20Panthers, which you mentioned, 49ers, Seahawks,
- 9:23and the Rams. All in the same team with an identical
- 9:26record. Yeah, nine teams in the NFC above 500.
- 9:32Above 500. Right now. Eight teams in the AFC.
- 9:36Like, that's insane. And if I'm not mistaken,
- 9:40I can go through all of them. I could find the
- 9:43atrocious losses where they've lost games where
- 9:46it's like, the hell are you doing? I thought
- 9:48you guys, like the Bills? I thought you guys
- 9:50were ballers. Like, how the hell do you lose
- 9:53to the Falcons? What are you doing? You know,
- 9:56how do you lose to the Patriots? Huh? What? So,
- 9:59you know, and I'm going to key in on the Bills
- 10:03because I made the proclamation. Early, two weeks
- 10:06in, that Josh Allen was the best quarterback
- 10:08in the league. And I'm not backing away from
- 10:12that. You can't put up 20 points on the Patriots
- 10:16within your own division. You can't put up only
- 10:19a sad 14 points at the Falcons. Everybody wins
- 10:25in Georgia. You can't go in there and get a win,
- 10:28Josh Allen. You know, so they're just one example.
- 10:32Obviously, the Chiefs have had their woes. They
- 10:34lost a lot of games or, you know, lost their
- 10:35games early in the season. They seem to have
- 10:37found their momentum. I still don't trust them
- 10:39either. OK, yeah, I know. I know they had some
- 10:42key players come back. You know, Kelsey didn't
- 10:44blow any games for him. But just looking at it,
- 10:47it's an absolute coin flip amongst all this.
- 10:50I thought the commanders were good. Lost to the
- 10:53Cowboys. I thought the Cowboys were terrible.
- 10:55They win one big game and now everybody wants
- 10:58to give Dak Prescott an MVP. So, you know, so,
- 11:02so I'm just like, everything is so unpredictable.
- 11:05You know, you talked about the Packers. I mean,
- 11:07they got a tie on their record. Like to the Cowboys.
- 11:11Yeah. To the Cowboys. Like I could do this all,
- 11:13which is going to come back to hurt them as the
- 11:14season rounds out. Like that, that tie is going
- 11:16to hurt, but I'll give you. I'm sorry. I'm going
- 11:20to give you two teams who – I'll give you a few
- 11:24teams, actually, where their losses aren't that
- 11:27bad. One of them are the Colts. They have one
- 11:31loss at the moment, and they lost by a touchdown
- 11:33to the Los Angeles Rams in L .A. Okay. The Rams
- 11:39have two losses. One is to Philadelphia, where
- 11:42they blew a 27 -6 lead, and the Eagles won off
- 11:46of blocked field goals. And then they lost to
- 11:48the 49ers because they decided to go for it on
- 11:51fourth down instead of kicking a field goal.
- 11:53You could look at that many ways, but that was
- 11:57one of those Thursday night games, division games
- 11:59where the Rams lose to Mac Jones. And I believe
- 12:01they were like an eight and a half, nine and
- 12:03a half favorite in that game. So maybe you look
- 12:05at that as a bad loss. Packers, you mentioned
- 12:08their loss was to the, they had a loss to the
- 12:11Browns and a tie to the Cowboys. That's why I
- 12:14said I don't believe in the Packers and they
- 12:16barely beat the Cardinals. with Jacoby Brissett
- 12:18as the quarterback. He's doing backup quarterback
- 12:20commercials. Great commercials, by the way. Yeah,
- 12:24and it takes a lot. I mean, they probably pay,
- 12:26but, you know, seeing like Jacoby Brissett and
- 12:28Mitchell Trubisky who are still in the league,
- 12:30and they're just like, you know what? I'm a backup
- 12:32quarterback, and I'm going to get paid for it
- 12:34on the field and off the field. No, and listen,
- 12:37there's a market there for them. It's kind of
- 12:39a sweet spot. Yes. You know, because... This
- 12:44is a conversation for another day. But I think
- 12:46it's a huge detriment that the best quarterbacks
- 12:49in the league, to me, don't really have that
- 12:51much of an appeal. Like, other than being famous.
- 12:54Like, Mahomes, I don't want to buy anything Mahomes
- 12:56is endorsing. Josh Allen, I mean, his personality
- 13:00is just kind of stale. I mean, I haven't seen
- 13:02Lamar Jackson in a commercial yet. I haven't
- 13:05either. But these backup guys got charisma. Them
- 13:09Cowboys got commercials, though, I tell you.
- 13:11Of course they do. America's team. So I'm going
- 13:15to key in, and like I said, I don't want to beat
- 13:17a dead horse about saying I'm not trusting anybody.
- 13:20It makes sense, though. I'm going to spin the
- 13:23wheel, and I'm going to have it land on a team,
- 13:24and then I'm just going to dissect this particular
- 13:27team lands on the Colts. Okay? So you're saying,
- 13:32oh, okay, yeah, the Colts, they only got one
- 13:34loss. They got one team. Hold on. OK, to a good
- 13:38team that only scored 27. They lost 27 to 20.
- 13:42Yeah. Daniel Jones turned back into a pumpkin
- 13:45in that game. All right. 24 for 33. Not bad.
- 13:49262 yards. Cool. Some of that was probably in
- 13:51garbage time, just racking up stats. But he had
- 13:54one touchdown, two picks. Yeah. He's absolutely
- 13:57capable of doing that again. For sure. So that's
- 13:59what I mean. Like, I just don't like I just don't
- 14:01trust him. The team is great around him, but
- 14:03that's who everybody's looking at. Mr. Indiana
- 14:06Jones. I may regret saying I believe in them,
- 14:08but there's just something about the team. I
- 14:10don't know. Okay, look. Like I said, it's not
- 14:12a bad pick. They're formidable. They are a formidable
- 14:17team. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. You go ahead.
- 14:23I was just saying they're just one of the teams
- 14:25that I got in the six that I picked to say I
- 14:28believe in these six. Okay. All right. No. And
- 14:31that's fair. I mean, and maybe that's you kind
- 14:34of taken. I don't know. Maybe taken, you know,
- 14:37a shot in the dark. Right. You know, just taking
- 14:40a swing. Yeah. You know, so but I know that,
- 14:45you know, Daniel Jones doesn't have a lot of
- 14:49postseason success. He's played in two games
- 14:51and he wasn't great in either of those games.
- 14:56Like like his combined stats for both of those
- 14:58games. should be the or the equivalent of one
- 15:01good game by a good quarterback so i just don't
- 15:04i don't trust that guy you know it's good for
- 15:07good for them good for them and good for him
- 15:09because he'll get a contract because of this
- 15:10year again he's definitely in that batch of you
- 15:13know guys we gave up on but they've got a they're
- 15:17gonna have to win in the playoffs to prove us
- 15:19wrong um and it's a sam darnold mac jones daniel
- 15:23jones correct yeah i'll give you that going to
- 15:34shift to uh the next topic on the nfl at the
- 15:38moment i think we we we had planned to talk about
- 15:41this before but we said we're going to wait so
- 15:43now is a pretty good time and that's coaches
- 15:46on the hot seat so so we're going to talk about
- 15:48some injured egos here maybe and uh you know
- 15:52we talked about the teams at the bottom and we
- 15:54talked about the blame game We've seen one head
- 15:57coach already be fired this year, and that's
- 15:58the Titans with Brian Callahan. Yes. So I'm going
- 16:02to throw a wrench in this really quick because
- 16:05I just want to ask what your position on this
- 16:08is. A simple yes or no will do. Do you believe
- 16:14in firing a head coach mid? I think sometimes,
- 16:19yeah. I mean, I think you can just tell. Especially
- 16:24if you're halfway through the season. And you
- 16:28got to go off the previous season or seasons.
- 16:31And you got to see something in the team, especially
- 16:34the way the team is built. Now, I don't agree
- 16:36so much with, you know, when the Panthers fired
- 16:39Frank Wright, what, 10, 11 games in the season,
- 16:42his first year. I think you got to give the guy
- 16:45a season, right? And then based off of that,
- 16:48maybe. But there's a lot of things that go into
- 16:52it. And I've seen a lot of stuff and read a lot
- 16:55of stuff about this, the way teams operate. And
- 16:59it's about when, you know, you have a coach in
- 17:01place, kind of like the Titans. They had Callahan
- 17:03already. They draft Cam Ward. Then it doesn't
- 17:06work, right? And it's like he had already had
- 17:10a season with, like, Will Levis. So now it's
- 17:12like, okay, you're still our guy, and we got
- 17:15the top pick, and we, you know what I mean? But
- 17:17now Cam Ward, you fire Callahan, and now Cam
- 17:20Ward's got to start over with somebody else eventually.
- 17:23You know what I mean? So it's Bryce Young, you
- 17:25know, the Panthers, they fired Frank Wright.
- 17:27Now Bryce Young's stuck with an interim and then
- 17:29he gets Canales. So it adds to it. You know what
- 17:32I mean? Does that make sense? No, it makes sense.
- 17:35It depends on the situation. You know what I
- 17:37mean? And I'll give you the example I think we
- 17:39all agree on. If you're watching the Miami Dolphins
- 17:41play football and you're watching the team that
- 17:45they have and the success that they've had maybe
- 17:48a few years ago and it's kind of gone downhill.
- 17:52into that you know they're getting blown out
- 17:54by the cleveland browns and ricky dylan gabriel
- 17:56so mike mcdaniel is the one that would answer
- 18:00that question that i say yes sometimes i think
- 18:02coaches got to go in the middle of the season
- 18:04just go ahead get it over with that okay so i
- 18:08can't argue that i can't argue that but i'm going
- 18:13to try okay and so the company that i work for
- 18:17the ceo literally has an acronym that he's quite
- 18:21often and i love it the acronym is o y s and
- 18:26he says it to everybody on the floor we're having
- 18:28meetings it stands for own your shit yeah own
- 18:33your shit i think that when a head coach makes
- 18:37a i think when a head coach sinks the way someone
- 18:42we talk about mike mcdaniels we could we can
- 18:44use him as the example here let him ride this
- 18:47out this was of his doing he helped build the
- 18:50roster Tua has had great years playing up under
- 18:53Mike McDaniel. Yeah. You know, the Tyreek Hill
- 18:56thing kind of fizzled out last year. We saw the
- 18:58stuff that he was doing this year, and then ultimately
- 19:00he got hurt. Yeah. You know, but still got Jalen
- 19:03Waddell on that team, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
- 19:06they still got a team. Yeah. They got a pretty
- 19:09good defense. You have a professional football
- 19:12team. Like like these NFL head coaches make a
- 19:15lot of money. I don't I think I think this is
- 19:18kind of a perfect storm of of three parts. Impatient
- 19:23ownership, angry fan base and poor production
- 19:29on the field. So it's kind of a perfect storm
- 19:32of everything where, like you mentioned, like
- 19:36with the Panthers, I mean, temporal fire anybody,
- 19:39man. Tepper will get anybody out of here. He'll
- 19:41fire anybody in a heartbeat, and he doesn't care
- 19:43because he's got a ton of money. He'll pay you
- 19:46$50 million to leave so you don't have to look
- 19:48at you. That's nothing to him. He has paid up
- 19:50to four coaches at one time. There you go. Yeah,
- 19:53and it doesn't matter to him. And coaches, their
- 19:55salaries and everything aren't as regulated as
- 19:57players, so there's no cap. He could pay $100
- 19:59million in coaches' salaries, and it doesn't
- 20:02matter to him. He's worth billions. So that's
- 20:05one side of it. Angry fan base. Like you, when
- 20:09you see the fan base kind of turn on a quarterback,
- 20:12you know, we kind of saw it happen with Russell
- 20:14Wilson where the fan base was like, yeah, let's
- 20:16get this guy out of here. Yeah. You know, so
- 20:18those types of things are going to happen. But
- 20:21I personally, I would like to see these coaches
- 20:23just stick it out and finish your year. If you
- 20:26stink all year too bad, you're, you're running
- 20:29the show. You can't get all the credit when your
- 20:31team is great. And then when your team starts
- 20:33failing and losing and it's embarrassing, you
- 20:36know, the. Mike McDaniel, his whole energy shifts.
- 20:40Those press conferences, with his shades on and
- 20:43his hoodies. Oh, yeah. You know, and his long
- 20:46-winded answers and stuff. And, you know, and
- 20:49his. Listen, I think you should make that guy
- 20:52earn every dime, dude. You catch every flight.
- 20:55You go to every practice. And you know what?
- 20:58By the way, you still scout for next year, even
- 21:00though you know you ain't going to be here. Yeah.
- 21:02You know, hey, you know, look, the trade deadline.
- 21:05Make some moves. Try something. Damn it. Like
- 21:07you still got a job. And even if they get fired,
- 21:10they're getting paid. So the least they could
- 21:12do is still act like they try. Act like they
- 21:14care. Yeah. I mean, I know. Well, you make a
- 21:18great argument. But but I can't and I can't,
- 21:22you know, say that that's a bad take. I mean,
- 21:24that makes sense. Right. And that's a good to
- 21:26argue the other side. That's a great take. I
- 21:29just want to point I saw this this week. So I
- 21:31have to mention it since we're just talking about
- 21:32the Dolphins at the moment. Here's who has been
- 21:35on the Dolphins coaching staff at some point
- 21:38and they let them walk. Two of them have been
- 21:40the interim head coach for the Miami Dolphins.
- 21:43First is Ben Johnson, current head coach of the
- 21:46Chicago Bears. Dan Quinn, current coach of the
- 21:52Washington Commanders. The next two were at one
- 21:55point interim head coaches in Miami. Todd Bowles,
- 21:58current Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach. And
- 22:00Dan Campbell. And Dan Campbell in Detroit. Yes.
- 22:03Now, hold on, now, hold on. Now, when Dan Campbell,
- 22:06the Dan Campbell one is interesting. He was incredibly
- 22:08green. He was talking about biting kneecaps off
- 22:12and shit in the press conferences and stuff.
- 22:14Like, he was a crazy person. It was very, very
- 22:17early for him. And maybe if he would have stuck
- 22:22around, I think that, you know, okay, I'll put
- 22:25it like this. Let's just say that if you put...
- 22:29if you put dan campbell in a room and mike mcdaniel
- 22:32in a room mike mcdaniel is the guy that you expect
- 22:35to fix your internet connection and dan campbell
- 22:38is the guy who's going to install your new toilet
- 22:40so yeah they are totally different at different
- 22:43ends of the spectrum yeah you know but but i
- 22:47mean no they had them in house but keep it but
- 22:49that that kind of lends to my point they let
- 22:51them go really early yeah i mean two were interims
- 22:56They just said, hey, you did a great job. At
- 22:59the time, I mean, I didn't get into much detail
- 23:01there, but, you know. But, yeah, I mean, and
- 23:06it's a combination, right? Like you said, you're
- 23:09going to get the blame when you're losing. All
- 23:12the praise and the credit when you're winning.
- 23:13Yeah, but it also depends on your quarterback.
- 23:17Your team. But I feel like the Dolphins have
- 23:19a good team, but they made the decision to pay
- 23:21two. Hold on. I'm not giving you that. Mike McDaniels
- 23:27was an offensive genius. Remember? Oh, yeah.
- 23:30He's going to scheme his way to a chip. So that's
- 23:34what I mean. So what happened? What went wrong?
- 23:38Is your team just bad? Do you just not have the
- 23:41talent? You know, they want to talk about culture
- 23:43and accountability and all of this kind of stuff.
- 23:46But, like, at the end of the day, you're not
- 23:47winning games. They've been close in some games.
- 23:50Some games they've got the doors blown off. But,
- 23:52you know, go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. No,
- 23:55I was just saying, like, what I look at is like
- 23:57I talked about before. Is the team putting in
- 24:00effort? And what kind of roster do you have?
- 24:03So with, like, the Dolphins, and I'm going to
- 24:05get into a few of these things. It might be Daniel.
- 24:07It just looks like he's lost the team, right?
- 24:10They look like they're not trying. He doesn't
- 24:13look like he's trying. He looks frustrated. He
- 24:16looks disconnected from the team. You got Tua
- 24:20making press conferences, and then he apologizes
- 24:23for saying things in the press conference about
- 24:25the team. It's a mess in Miami. And again, I
- 24:28point out the Saints. Kellen Moore, first year.
- 24:30Not a great record, but they play hard. And they're
- 24:33in games. And that's all you can ask for. And
- 24:35also with Spencer Rattler as your quarterback.
- 24:38The Jets, Aaron Glenn doesn't seem to be making
- 24:41really good decisions coaching and things like
- 24:43that. He's supposed to know defense and the same
- 24:46defense that Robert Sala had playing great. Aaron
- 24:49Glenn, they don't play so great. They also, again,
- 24:52I brought up Woody Johnson. He don't want to
- 24:54blame Aaron Glenn, but he's going to blame Justin
- 24:56Fields. Quarterback play has to do with their
- 24:58problems, but they're just not a good football
- 25:01team and they don't look like a well -coached
- 25:03football team. Not that Aaron Glenn should lose
- 25:06his job. I'm just saying he's going to have to
- 25:09improve next year if he's still there, just like
- 25:12Callahan got it in Tennessee. Was it showing
- 25:15improvement, making really bonehead decisions
- 25:17coaching? It's different being the guy, right?
- 25:22It's not like being a coordinator. Not everybody's
- 25:25made to be a head coach. And while that's fair,
- 25:30while all of that is fair, at the end of the
- 25:33day – Jonathan Gannon. you can't lose and push
- 25:35players right yeah but but you're but you are
- 25:38the you're you got the job already you're the
- 25:42person that's responsible it all falls on you
- 25:45ceo go out there and do your job man like even
- 25:49if you're losing go out there and lose with some
- 25:51grace go out there and lose with some class and
- 25:53you know hey maybe you don't make it back the
- 25:55next season that's fine But I just don't like
- 25:57guys being bailed out. Now, there is an upside
- 26:00because interim coaches get a chance to. But,
- 26:02you know, you mentioned interim coaches get a
- 26:04chance to coach when someone gets let go. But
- 26:09the downside to that is we know that that interim
- 26:12coach is gone after the end of that year anyway.
- 26:14So he gets, you know, it's five, six games or
- 26:17whatever. Most of the time. Most of the time.
- 26:19I mean, it's very rare. If like if I was an interim
- 26:22coach, I'd be like, y 'all have to sign me for
- 26:24this. And for the rest of this season, the next
- 26:25season, just sign me to a deal. If you want me,
- 26:28give me the job and actually give me an opportunity
- 26:31to build a resume. So but other than that, let
- 26:34let Mike McDaniel wear all these losses on his
- 26:38record. Don't put them on me. Don't give me a
- 26:41bad team to inherit. I'm going to I'm going to
- 26:44do this real quick. Let's just do this right.
- 26:46Every year coaches get fired. At least a handful.
- 26:50So let's just, what five teams do we think are
- 26:55going to fire their head coach? And we'll count
- 26:57the Titans as one of that five that already happened.
- 26:59So we just need four more teams who we believe
- 27:02at the end of the year will make a coaching change.
- 27:04Okay. Okay. Mike McDaniel with a bullet. Yeah.
- 27:10So three more left. I'm going to say Jonathan
- 27:15Gannon. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. I'm thinking.
- 27:20I'll agree. Jonathan Gannon, that's two. I am
- 27:24going – and it's going to hurt, man, because
- 27:27I really like him, and I think he's got a shot
- 27:31to be a good coach. Aaron Glenn is gone for the
- 27:35Jets. It's over for him, man. And I really want
- 27:39to see that do -do well, man. But, yeah, it's
- 27:41a wrap for him. That's three. I got another one
- 27:45that – I got a fourth one. I'm curious. So we've
- 27:49already got four already, so this will technically
- 27:52be the fifth one. We need one more, and I'm trying
- 27:55to choose between the Giants and Brian Dayball
- 27:58and the Raiders and Pete Carroll. Wow. Okay,
- 28:02mine is another one, but go ahead. I'll hear
- 28:05yours. Yeah, I think they say Dayball's safe,
- 28:09but they've made the switch to Dart. They have
- 28:11Scadabo. They had a little energy. As of this
- 28:15podcast, they've coming off blowing a, well,
- 28:18not just blowing a lead, but giving up 32 points
- 28:21in the fourth quarter, or 33 points, I'm sorry,
- 28:23to the Denver Broncos to blow a lead. He can't
- 28:28keep losing like that. I know they beat Philadelphia,
- 28:31and I know bad audio saved everybody from my
- 28:35rant. And then Pete Carroll, I mean, he's 74.
- 28:41And I heard a good take on this was, like, they're
- 28:44rebuilding, but they're still trying to win.
- 28:48He ain't got that much time. So, you know, what
- 28:52are we doing? Like, Geno Smith is not the answer.
- 28:55I think his days are done. He turns the ball
- 28:58over more than anybody in the league. Yeah, Tom
- 29:01Brady eventually, you know, is going to get over
- 29:03there in that coaching box and tell them they
- 29:08got to make a change, man. They suck. They suck
- 29:11something awful. They're bad. I want to say Stefanski
- 29:16and Cleveland. Okay, damn it, you stole mine.
- 29:18Yeah, Stefanski, fuck out of here. He's done.
- 29:21It's over. Gone. But they don't have a solid
- 29:25quarterback. So you got to look at the GM and
- 29:29say, what are we doing? No, no, no. We paid six
- 29:32quarterbacks this year. Hold on, hold on. We're
- 29:35not going to do this where we bail them out.
- 29:38Stefanski had say. Stefanski. I mean, their quarterback
- 29:42situation, he absolutely played a part in. Okay?
- 29:45You've got – hold on, hold on. You've absolutely
- 29:48played a part in. Yeah. Think about what's taken
- 29:51place with the Cleveland Browns. Three quarterbacks,
- 29:55one of them Shadurah Sanders, who doesn't even
- 29:58play. He's not even getting reps in practice.
- 30:00The other one you just traded, and he just beat
- 30:04Aaron Rodgers on a primetime night game in front
- 30:07of everybody. You traded him within the division.
- 30:10As Mike Tomlin said, you traded him to another
- 30:14team in the division that needed a quarterback.
- 30:17That needed a quarterback. But he was your starter.
- 30:19He was your opening day starter. And you felt
- 30:22the need to trade him to another team in the
- 30:24division. And we're not even halfway through
- 30:26the season. He's played two weeks with the Bengals.
- 30:30There you go. That is the level of ineptitude
- 30:32that the Browns have. Kevin Stefanski has to
- 30:36go. And I'm going to defend Pete Carroll here.
- 30:41You say he's 73 years old? Yeah, 74. 73, 74.
- 30:4595. Okay, hold on. No, no. I'll give you all
- 30:49those numbers. He's an octogenarian. I'll give
- 30:51you that. He's an old guy. And I like Pete Carroll.
- 30:53I like Pete Carroll, too. But I'll tell you this.
- 30:55You ain't never met a more vibrant, energized
- 30:57old man ever. No. And that roster is not good.
- 31:01Exactly. And we know he's a good coach. We know
- 31:04that he can put things together. I don't think
- 31:06his age plays a role other than maybe his health
- 31:09taking a bad turn and now you're kind of stuck.
- 31:11But I don't think that's a reason to fire him.
- 31:14For me, I keep him and allow him and let him.
- 31:19build my team we know he can build a team yeah
- 31:22let him build the team but uh but Stefanski yeah
- 31:25dude you got to go and and it's kind of and and
- 31:29it kind of bothers me that we it took it to the
- 31:31last person on that list for us to get to him
- 31:34because he should have been right behind Mike
- 31:35McDaniel he's up there he is definitely up there
- 31:38yeah he's got I can't I yeah I'm not mad at that
- 31:49Let's just go to the next. We're going to go
- 31:51to another segment. I think that's good on the
- 31:53midseason review. I just want to get into a few
- 31:56things that are going on in the league as topics.
- 32:02Just hit these real quick. Taunting. Let me just
- 32:08say this. I got issues with a couple of penalties.
- 32:10I got issues with certain things going on within
- 32:14the game. And then the NFL, you know. They, every
- 32:18once in a while, it feels like they're being
- 32:20run by Adam Silver or someone of that nature.
- 32:25But a couple penalties that have been getting
- 32:28under my skin is the taunting penalty. Guys,
- 32:33grown men getting paid millions of dollars, they
- 32:36can't express that they just tackled you. I think
- 32:40it's gotten a little better since we originally
- 32:42talked about this. I don't know that that made
- 32:45it to an episode. But I know we mentioned it
- 32:48and discussed it, but I think it's gotten better.
- 32:52But it's still about as it bothers me that you
- 32:54can't tackle somebody and flex without them throwing
- 32:57a flag, a 15 yard penalty, by the way, for grown
- 33:00men playing football. And then the other one
- 33:04was, you know, the rough in the passer. You know,
- 33:07it's it's it's a hit or miss. Right. If Dak Prescott
- 33:10gets up and cries and. Touches his face. You
- 33:14know, they throw the flag. I've seen a few on
- 33:17deck this year. And the only reason I have seen
- 33:19the games for the Cowboys is because guess what?
- 33:22Every week is the game of the week on Fox. They
- 33:25they they force your eyes open with, you know,
- 33:29like bird. Like, what is it? Bird box. Bird box.
- 33:33Watch the Cowboys no matter what. But those two
- 33:36penalties bother me, even though we're going
- 33:38to get, you know. Later, we will discuss penalties
- 33:42as well. But those two right now are just the
- 33:45big ones that, you know, it's again, if your
- 33:48finger brushes the quarterback's head, they say
- 33:52you hit him in the head. I mean, I don't know,
- 33:55man. I get it if you lower your helmet into their
- 33:59helmet or something. You hit them five seconds
- 34:02after he's thrown the pass. But some of these
- 34:05penalties are just crazy, and it's a bell out.
- 34:09I'll start with the taunting. My only issue with
- 34:15the taunting is that it's insistent. The rule
- 34:18is the rule. The guys know the rules. Follow
- 34:21the rules. Don't commit a stupid penalty that
- 34:24costs your team 15 yards. It's that simple. You
- 34:27talk about these guys making a lot of money to
- 34:29play these positions. It's hard to be a defensive
- 34:32player in the league right now. I understand
- 34:33that. Okay, you made a big play, dude. You're
- 34:37going to make four or five of those big plays
- 34:38in a game. Control yourself. Especially if you
- 34:42know you're going to do it directly in front
- 34:44of a ref. They're going to call it on you. It's
- 34:47going to cost you 15 yards. And everybody on
- 34:50the sideline is going to be pissed at you. Because
- 34:51it's, you know, I understand letting the emotions
- 34:54kind of take the lead. But the taunting only
- 34:57applies. to specific things. So it's not that
- 35:00you can't go out there and kind of flex a little
- 35:03bit and show yourself, but it's specific things
- 35:08that you can't do. You can't hover and stand
- 35:10over someone. You can't put your hands on people.
- 35:13You can't put your hands in people's faces. It's
- 35:16basic decorum. And these guys know the rules.
- 35:23It's an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. It's
- 35:26an equivalent. So but my only thing is, again,
- 35:30I just want it to be consistent. If you're going
- 35:32to call it, call it every time. Don't allow one
- 35:35guy to get away with it on the offensive side
- 35:37and then have and then but call it on a defensive
- 35:39guy when he gets a stop on the next. Just be
- 35:41just be consistent with it. That's all I'm asking.
- 35:44Yeah, because as you mentioned, defense, it's
- 35:47very hard to play defense. So, I mean, with the
- 35:50way they call it sometimes on these defensive
- 35:52players, I mean, offense would get it just for
- 35:55pointing first down. Right. And actually, you
- 35:59know what I mean? I mean, I'm just saying like,
- 36:01you know, Cam Newton used to have some good ones.
- 36:05A lot of guys, they have some good first down
- 36:07pointing. I think it's like, you know, I think
- 36:09that was Puka Nakua maybe. I don't know if he
- 36:12did like double guns and then pointed and they
- 36:14were like, yeah, you can't do that. But there's
- 36:18a there's a line and they know it. But lately,
- 36:21though, as watching, it seems like it's gotten
- 36:23better. established the rule um and i think maybe
- 36:30they've lightened up a little yeah and like i
- 36:32said i'm not as upset about taunting penalties
- 36:35because my thing is is these guys they know what
- 36:38it is and what i love is when they do when they
- 36:41taunt get called for it and then they're shocked
- 36:44they're pearl clutching yes it's like dude just
- 36:48you're six foot three 225 with a with three percent
- 36:52body fat and you're shocked that that ref called
- 36:55and you're grabbing the side of your head like
- 36:57oh my god i can't believe he called that you
- 36:59know what you can and can't do dude if it's in
- 37:01the heat of the moment i'll let it ride but these
- 37:04choreographed taunts that you're being upset
- 37:06better be called like it just it just accentuates
- 37:10that you know you're you might be a dumbass when
- 37:13it comes to roughing the passer though yeah i
- 37:16understand why the rule is there what i think
- 37:20to kind of regulate that penalty being called
- 37:24because it's such an impactful penalty that affects
- 37:28the game and its most important players being
- 37:30the quarterback. I think it's something that
- 37:33should be subject to more review as opposed to
- 37:37just the one call that happens live on the field
- 37:40and maybe you miss something. I think that's
- 37:43something, if they want to protect quarterbacks,
- 37:45if they want to make sure that... you know, that
- 37:48they aren't being assaulted, like you said, a
- 37:50late hit, something to that effect, then go ahead
- 37:53and treat it as such. Bring it in. Say, hey,
- 37:57I want to make sure that Patrick Mahomes doesn't
- 37:59get rocked unnecessarily. That was a dirty shot.
- 38:02Yeah, he came in a little loaded. That was a
- 38:03dirty play. Yeah, he swiped over knowing that
- 38:06the ball was gone. Hit him right in the face.
- 38:08Maybe he hits him in the eye. I just want them
- 38:11to take it more seriously. I feel like it's a
- 38:13little too willy nilly when they call stuff and
- 38:15when they don't. And unfortunately, it just happens
- 38:18to be at pivotal points in a game where the quarterback
- 38:22just really needs a call and he just happens
- 38:25to get it. Yeah. And again, recently, again,
- 38:28having to be forced to watch the Cowboys, you
- 38:30know, I just see Dak. And this is not me being
- 38:33a cowboy hater here. I mean, honest to God, it's
- 38:35any quarterback. Tom Brady used to any high,
- 38:37any big time quarterback does it once they get
- 38:40hit status. I'm sorry. You said you're not being
- 38:43a cowboy hater. Sure. Sounds like it. But go
- 38:44ahead. I mean, I say that because I was about
- 38:50to say, you know, once you reach a status, I
- 38:52didn't realize Dak had reached Brady status that
- 38:55he can just cry to the referee and they throw
- 38:57the flag. But that's where it's gotten to him.
- 39:00But yeah, that's interesting. So my universal
- 39:03challenge flag would work on roughing the passer.
- 39:07Interesting. No, it would. Yeah, it would. Yes.
- 39:10The other thing going on in games right now has
- 39:14been these ridiculously long field goals. Okay.
- 39:18And the word is that the balls are tighter, they're
- 39:21juiced, and a 60 -yard field goal now is just
- 39:26nothing. Okay, so wait. I don't know how I feel
- 39:29about it. Now, I've maybe kicked a football seven
- 39:33times in my life. When you say juiced, you simply
- 39:37mean that the balls are overinflated to the max.
- 39:41Yeah, I don't know exactly. I mean, I heard Vic
- 39:44Fangio talking about it. But it's the equivalent
- 39:47of when baseball had juiced baseballs and they
- 39:50were just flying out of the park. And this was,
- 39:53I believe. after steroids so it was like hey
- 39:57we made these guys stop taking steroids so let's
- 40:00still have home run everybody can kick a long
- 40:02field goal so it's just kind of like i don't
- 40:05know how i feel about it i know they want more
- 40:07offense which again is why the offense gets all
- 40:09the calls uh no defense gets all the penalties
- 40:12and now we've added this where you know they
- 40:15can kick you know damn near the entire football
- 40:17field for a field goal do you have but but what's
- 40:21the problem you have with that I don't know.
- 40:25That's what I'm saying. Is it real or not real?
- 40:31Like, like again, home runs and baseball is more
- 40:34exciting than I guess a 60 yard field goal, but
- 40:38we're gonna, you know, I don't know. We're just
- 40:41making kickers look like they're amazing. Not
- 40:43nothing against kickers. I just. Where does it
- 40:46stop? Where does it end? But wait. I don't know,
- 40:50man. Because it used to be like, again, I know,
- 40:54again, this is offense driven. So the defense
- 40:57makes a stop. You're like, great. There's no
- 41:00way they're going to kick this 59 -yard field
- 41:02goal here. Nope. Yeah, they are. You sound. You
- 41:06got to have a three and out on the 30 -yard line
- 41:09to hold them from a field goal now? You sound
- 41:13like. An old -ass man who... Hold on, hold on,
- 41:18hold on. Let me land a plane here. Let me land
- 41:21a plane. Yeah. You sound like an old -ass man
- 41:25wishing for the days of bird and magic and tiny
- 41:30basketball shorts and two -point set shots. Because
- 41:36this is the three -point NBA conversation all
- 41:41over again. You can't be mad at more points.
- 41:44You could say, oh, this is making these mediocre
- 41:47kickers look like they're great. Maybe they are
- 41:50that good. Because when you look at when you
- 41:54look at. OK, I think the thing with like the
- 41:5660 yard field goals was the chances of people
- 42:01making those field goals was so unlikely that
- 42:05teams wouldn't attempt them. So I'm going to
- 42:08take that same parallel and apply it. The NBA
- 42:11with the three point shot. The reason why teams
- 42:14didn't take a lot of threes was because it was
- 42:16like, hey, we'd rather get an efficient two.
- 42:19Maybe he gets fouled, go to the line, get a free
- 42:21throw, right? But when you look at how many players
- 42:25started, oh, OK, wait, I can actually take five
- 42:29threes a game. Some days I'm going to hit four
- 42:32or five. Some days I might hit one of five. But
- 42:34my average, I'm going to shoot three out of five.
- 42:37And that's a Hall of Fame type three point percent.
- 42:40OK, so. So I think what's happening now is that
- 42:43guys have proven that they can go out and kick
- 42:45them. Because that's the other thing. When Steph
- 42:47Curry came into the league and he tried to do
- 42:50his Davidson impersonation, it took a couple
- 42:52of years for him to start gunning threes. And
- 42:54then Steve Kerr was like, you know what, man?
- 42:55Just do what it is you want to do. We knew that
- 42:57he was a great three -point shooter with Mark
- 42:59Jackson. But Steve Kerr was like, no, no, no,
- 43:01dude. Get across half court. Take your shot.
- 43:05Chuck it up. And now this is where, with kickers,
- 43:09you know that they have the ability. When Steph
- 43:12Curry takes a 35 footer, no one goes, oh, my
- 43:15God, Steph, that was a bad shot because we know
- 43:17he is capable of making that shot. So when it
- 43:20comes to kickers and you know that they have
- 43:21the ability to to a better than average percentage
- 43:26to kick that field goal and make it, you make
- 43:29it and then you kick the ball off and then give
- 43:32the team worse field position. You got to take
- 43:34those three points. So I don't know whether it's
- 43:36the balls. I don't know whether it's the kickers,
- 43:38but. It's not something that I'm going to frown
- 43:41upon, you know, just because it's different.
- 43:44Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like I said, I can't
- 43:48pinpoint it, but. It doesn't feel right. Hold
- 43:52on. You don't like the kickers kicking. It doesn't
- 43:54feel right to you. It doesn't. Okay. I don't
- 43:58like it. I think in the next, if this trend continues,
- 44:02because this is a trend right now. We're talking
- 44:04about this, you know, six, seven games into the
- 44:06season. Yeah. So it's a trend right now. It's
- 44:08not. It's a fad. We don't know what it's going
- 44:11to be like for the next. Let's see how you feel
- 44:12in a couple of years. Yeah. The other thing that
- 44:21got my attention, I'm going to go on another
- 44:23rant. The NFL I saw is looking to add at least
- 44:27two more international games next season. Here's
- 44:31my argument. For the fans of these teams in the
- 44:36city that they reside in. Home teams are losing
- 44:40a home game. I don't care about the money they
- 44:42make. I don't care about the teams making the
- 44:44money. It's one less home game that a team gets
- 44:48to play, right? Some of them's away games for
- 44:52other teams. And again, I do hope we get to an
- 44:5518 -game season so we can have nine and nine.
- 44:58But these international games, I get it. They
- 45:00want to go overseas. They want to spread the
- 45:04love, all these things. But the scheduling of
- 45:07it is a disruption. And I'll give you an example
- 45:10I just noticed. One team that loves to do this,
- 45:12and they do multiples every year, are the Jacksonville
- 45:15Jaguars. The London Jags? The Jaguars, before
- 45:19going overseas, they were 4 -1. They were coming
- 45:22off a Monday night win against the Kansas City
- 45:24Chiefs. They were riding high. They go overseas.
- 45:28They lose all their momentum. They've lost both
- 45:31games over there. They lost an ugly game to the
- 45:35Denver Broncos, and then they got waxed by the
- 45:37Rams. I think it was a disruption of their momentum
- 45:40that they had, right? They were here, they were
- 45:43playing great, just had a home game, beat the
- 45:45Chiefs, like I said, and then they have to go
- 45:47over there and they just lost their momentum.
- 45:49I think it's a disruption. And again, I think
- 45:52it takes away from the fans in the city of those
- 45:54teams. I get it. It's a money game. It's a business.
- 45:58NFL won't do these things. I hope they never
- 46:01put a team over there. I think they should put
- 46:03like a league over there or something. But, you
- 46:05know, putting a team over there eventually, I
- 46:07mean, think about that scheduling. I don't know,
- 46:11man. If you had to play for that team, now you've
- 46:13got to go to Europe. Hell, yeah, we've got to
- 46:15play in that division. Not the end of the world,
- 46:18but, yeah, no, I get it. We can travel now. But,
- 46:20again, the way they have to schedule around these
- 46:22things, I'm just not a big fan of it. I think
- 46:25we have way too many now. It's starting not to
- 46:28be that specialty. You know, it's different like
- 46:32when, you know, they start in Brazil or Mexico
- 46:36City, you know, that that first game of the season,
- 46:39like when you have that Thursday night game or
- 46:41something, I guess is better than the end in
- 46:44the middle of the season. Just because, you know,
- 46:48Thursday night and then you get to really then
- 46:51get a good break before your first Sunday game.
- 46:54But yeah, I'm not a fan and I'm not happy to
- 46:57hear that they're going to add more games. Okay.
- 46:58Call me old man. Call me whatever. Yeah. I'm
- 47:01going to call you old ass man. And the only thing
- 47:09that I agreed with what you said there was how
- 47:11it affects the fans. I could not care less how
- 47:16it affects teams and how they play. They know
- 47:19their schedule ahead of time. There's things
- 47:22that you're not going to be able to control.
- 47:24I mean, I can't control my own work schedule.
- 47:26Like traveling halfway across the world. I get
- 47:28it. It stinks. But the team, trust me, the teams
- 47:32that are traveling over there are doing the accommodations
- 47:34are going to be as comfortable as possible. So
- 47:36that way they put the best product on the field
- 47:38because they don't want their players to get
- 47:39hurt. That part doesn't bother me. But I'm going
- 47:42to tweak this just slight bit because you're
- 47:46putting the onus on overseas games. I'm going
- 47:50to shift this to the fans perspective that you
- 47:53alluded to. With the overseas games and local
- 47:56fans not being able to go one less game to go
- 47:59see their team locally. But I'm going to flip
- 48:01this to these double headers. I'm going to flip
- 48:04this to these multiple games that are being played
- 48:07on the same day. You know, on a Monday night
- 48:10where Monday night. Yes. Where you have a game.
- 48:14Yeah. Well, you have an opportunity to to to
- 48:17schedule. And here's the thing. And I'm just
- 48:19this is this may be the wackiest of ideas. But
- 48:23if you have an additional game that, you know,
- 48:27is going to have to be rammed late on the schedule
- 48:31on a Monday, just so that way the game is played.
- 48:34Why not move it? to a sunday and this ties into
- 48:38what you were saying about these international
- 48:40games the international games start what eight
- 48:42nine o 'clock nine thirty nine thirty so they're
- 48:45over early or late late morning early game why
- 48:50not just start that other game then yeah why
- 48:53not just tie it all together have a morning game
- 48:56late morning early afternoon game going right
- 48:59into the one o 'clock schedule like it's so easy
- 49:01and it's so simple i think a lot of this has
- 49:04to do with like the the ESPN Monday Night Football
- 49:07contractual obligations of the games. And they
- 49:10just got to kind of just get them on the schedule
- 49:12to get them played. But it makes it hard for
- 49:14fans to follow the games and to watch them. And
- 49:18it's almost as if having the doubleheader on
- 49:21Monday Night Football almost feels like they
- 49:22forgot about it. It's almost like, oh, damn.
- 49:25Oh, man, we have to play this game. Oh, yeah,
- 49:28just throw it on at 10, 1030. Yeah, so they're
- 49:31scheduling it this way. And they've been doing
- 49:35this for years where they'll open the season
- 49:36or the first few weeks and they'll have multiple
- 49:38games, like not exactly the same time, but it
- 49:41might be like a seven o 'clock and eight thirty.
- 49:44But again, this past Monday, it was what, an
- 49:47eight and a ten o 'clock or something like a
- 49:49seven and a ten. It was crazy. I'm like, man,
- 49:52it's ten o 'clock. I mean, if it was the Eagles,
- 49:54I'd probably stay up and I'll call in sick the
- 49:56next day. But, you know. I'm not staying up watching
- 49:59the Seahawks and the Texans at 10 o 'clock at
- 50:02night. No, but you might have watched it at kickoff
- 50:05with 730. Well, yeah, if there's one game. If
- 50:08there's one game. But I think they're doing this,
- 50:11too, because they get so many duds by having
- 50:15one game on a Monday. Now, I say that, but they
- 50:18only have one game on Thursday, and we get a
- 50:20lot of duds on Thursday. So, yeah, I'm with you.
- 50:24I'm glad you brought that up. That's another
- 50:25thing. I'm not a big fan of the doubleheaders.
- 50:29It's hard enough for me to try to watch wrestling
- 50:31and football. I think there's enough time on
- 50:33Sunday to put that game on. To be able to sandwich
- 50:35it in. Well, again, this is what we've done for
- 50:38years. One game on Monday. The other game can
- 50:42go on Sunday. It's okay. We don't have to watch
- 50:44the Cowboys. We could put another team on TV.
- 50:49Hold on. But that's a counterpoint, though. Because,
- 50:53you know, if you either... You never know what
- 50:56a game's going to turn into. You never know if
- 51:00the Falcons are going to score zero against the
- 51:03Panthers. You never know if a division opponent
- 51:06in, you know, the Las Vegas Raiders is going
- 51:10to, you know, drop a goose egg while playing
- 51:12the Chiefs. It's hard to tell. So it's like,
- 51:15so what do you do? You have interesting matchups.
- 51:17Or you have big -named teams. You know, you mentioned
- 51:19the Chiefs, the Cowboys, you know, the Eagles,
- 51:22the Steelers. You just throw them on and just
- 51:25kind of cross your fingers and hope. But at the
- 51:26end of the day, that's nothing that the NFL can
- 51:28control. It's out of their control. Set your
- 51:31schedule. Make it convenient to where people
- 51:34can actually watch it and enjoy it and not looking
- 51:36at it. Those doubleheaders, man, was looked at
- 51:38as a burden. Fans, it was a burden for fans.
- 51:41It was a burden for media. They're like, damn.
- 51:45I've got to flip back and forth between these
- 51:46games. Like, you know, like, what's going on?
- 51:48So, you know. Yeah, either you're flipping or,
- 51:51like you said, they're starting it at 10 o 'clock
- 51:53at night. Way too much. Insane. The other thing
- 51:56with the – we mentioned the fans losing a home
- 51:58game, and it's only one, right? But what if you're
- 52:00a season ticket holder? It's like you're paying
- 52:02for seasons. That's a good question because my
- 52:04thing is, like, if it – I don't know how that's
- 52:07factored in. My guess is that your season tickets.
- 52:11But if I pay season. Oh, go ahead. No, no. My
- 52:13guess is that if your season tickets will be
- 52:16tickets for the games played at that stadium.
- 52:20True. But I would say. You're losing the game.
- 52:23You're losing the game. And it may be that's,
- 52:25you know, maybe they got it worked out. No big
- 52:28deal. I would still, if I was in Philadelphia,
- 52:30I would have season tickets to the Eagles and
- 52:32I wouldn't care. Okay. So that's that on that.
- 52:35But you care if one of those games was in London?
- 52:38I mean, I would, and I'd probably start doing
- 52:39some math to try to figure out how much I paid
- 52:43per game and things like that. But they're probably
- 52:47just, I think they're just charging, you're right,
- 52:49for the games that are actually being played.
- 52:50But I would have to take a look at that. All
- 53:04right, so fun random topic. What is the most
- 53:07irritating penalty in football? Okay, so. So
- 53:11not necessarily a penalty that like you don't
- 53:14like. Like we talked about taunting. It's just
- 53:16like, it's irritating. And I got one and I got
- 53:19a reason why every time it's called. It just
- 53:21irritates me that it's still done. I'm curious
- 53:25if we have the same one. So we're going to go
- 53:27with. Okay. So the question is, what is the most
- 53:30irritating penalty in football? To me, the most
- 53:34irritating penalty is holding. Oh, wow. Specifically
- 53:39on the offensive line. And it's because it's
- 53:45simple. It's because you can call it on every
- 53:47play, but you don't. It's because you can make
- 53:49an argument to justify it being called in so
- 53:53many different situations on any play. I mean,
- 53:57hell, I'll tell you like this. I know it occurs.
- 54:01Have you ever seen a holding penalty called on
- 54:04a field goal? It absolutely happens, but they
- 54:07don't call it. Yeah, rarely if ever. Rarely if
- 54:12ever. So for me, it's irritating where it's like,
- 54:15damn, that was a great run. And I'm wanting to
- 54:20make this clear. I'm not talking about... a holding
- 54:23penalty on a DB, on a receiver trying to break
- 54:27free on a route. Those are just a little too
- 54:30obvious. They call some of those as holding.
- 54:33Technically, it's more pass interference. I'm
- 54:36talking about on the line, guys jockeying for
- 54:39position to open up holes for running backs,
- 54:42for running quarterbacks, for run design plays,
- 54:46and then the ref throws a flag and you realize
- 54:49that that 27 -yard run has to come back. irritating
- 54:52as hell that is not mine mine's gonna be from
- 54:57a different angle different point of view it
- 55:00is the block in the back wow because okay i i
- 55:05don't understand why it still happens that you
- 55:09know if you're running downfield and and you're
- 55:13uh you know you're on off and and you're trying
- 55:16to the defenders in front of you how you still
- 55:21push somebody in the back when you clearly know
- 55:24you're behind them is just so irritating because
- 55:27i'm like it happens all the time like every game
- 55:31it could be the first punt first kickoff of the
- 55:34game blocking the back blocking the back i'm
- 55:36like man like you don't know yet that you can't
- 55:39push somebody in the back it's just irritating
- 55:42to me well no and and that and that kind of goes
- 55:44back to what we were talking about with the taunting
- 55:46like you like you know You got to be aware. And
- 55:51the block in the back is so obvious. It's probably
- 55:54one of the more obvious penalties in the NFL
- 55:57because every single time, whoever gets pushed
- 56:02in the back is defenseless. There's nothing they
- 56:05can do. And honestly, I think that's why it's
- 56:08more dangerous, and I'm glad that they actually
- 56:10call it. I like it as a penalty because you don't
- 56:13even give someone the opportunity to brace themselves.
- 56:16Just think about how many injuries it would be.
- 56:18They say block in the back, but imagine if you
- 56:20hit somebody. You give them a little forearm.
- 56:23You give them a shoulder. As somebody's trying
- 56:25to get in position to make a play on a ball.
- 56:29Somebody's making a play on a pass. Someone's
- 56:30making a play on a run. And you hit them from
- 56:33the back. That's a really good one. And it is
- 56:35irritating, even though I think it's needed.
- 56:39I don't understand why guys do it. That's irritating
- 56:43as hell. I'm fine with the penalty. I'm just
- 56:46like, I'm overwhelmed how many times it happens
- 56:50in a game. Gotcha. And then, and normally they
- 56:54give themselves away, right? The hands go up
- 56:56like, I didn't do it. We see, we've seen it too
- 57:01many times with great, with great players too.
- 57:03Yeah. It happens. It's about every, it's every
- 57:07game multiple times. It's irritating, but all
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