Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI TECH SCROLL: Meta moderation & DEI changes, U.S. TikTok ban update + TikTok users migrating to RedNote app
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- 0:00Hey everyone, and welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
- 0:03culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
- 0:05media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
- 0:09through Thursday. My name is Annabelle, and I'm
- 0:11the deputy editor of youth digital media brand Centennial
- 0:14World, and I am now your Mini Scroll host every Wednesday.
- 0:18So as you can obviously hear or see, I am not Lauren.
- 0:22This year Lauren has decided to take a step back from Mini
- 0:25Scroll just one day a week to kind of lessen her workload and
- 0:29also manage her work flow better.
- 0:30Because as much as we all love Mini Scroll, Lauren pretty much
- 0:34does everything herself and it is a lot of work to find
- 0:37stories, record, edit, and upload an episode each day.
- 0:40With that being said, I am now jumping on the pod every
- 0:43Wednesday to keep the daily content coming but also keep
- 0:47Lauren's mental health in check. If I sound familiar, I have been
- 0:50on the podcast before. If you listen to the final
- 0:52Infinite Scroll deep dive of 2024, you would have heard from
- 0:55me. But if you didn't get around to
- 0:56listening to it, you definitely should.
- 0:59But I also thought I would introduce myself a little bit
- 1:01here. For context, I was brought on to
- 1:03Centennial as an intern in 2021 while I was still in uni, and
- 1:07Lauren has been kind enough to keep me around since then.
- 1:11A lot of the work that I do now is around the infinite scroll
- 1:14deep dive episodes that come out every week, so I spend most of
- 1:18my time preparing, researching, and scripting those episodes.
- 1:21So if you like those, please send your support because we
- 1:25just need the reassurance sometimes.
- 1:26Aside from that, I also write Centennial's weekly Sub Stack
- 1:29new newsletter, which is also called Infinite Scroll.
- 1:32It covers the five biggest think pieces on the Internet each
- 1:34week. And I know a lot of you aren't
- 1:36subscribed, so if that sounds like you would be up your alley,
- 1:39please go subscribe. It would be much appreciated by
- 1:42me. Thank you in advance.
- 1:45As far as Internet culture goes, I have always been seriously
- 1:48invested in pop culture and the digital space.
- 1:50I think it's a really important area to take seriously because I
- 1:53feel like you can tell a lot about the general mood of
- 1:55society based on the content that is trending and the content
- 1:57that's popular. Even though this area is kind of
- 2:00seen stereotypically as an unimportant and frivolous
- 2:03interest, I think we need to treat it and analyze it with the
- 2:06gravity it deserves. So I'm definitely happy to be
- 2:08contributing to this through many every week on my episodes.
- 2:11We did think we would mix things up a bit.
- 2:13We will be keeping the structure that you guys have all come to
- 2:15love over the past year. But since we got such positive
- 2:18feedback last year, whenever we covered specific trends, we
- 2:21thought that my episode would focus a little bit more on the
- 2:23techie side of things and maybe a bit more industry and trend
- 2:26based stuff. I'm not opposed to venturing
- 2:28into political territory, Tory, if that is interesting to you
- 2:31guys, definitely let us know because the crossover between
- 2:34politics and pop culture is probably one of my favorite
- 2:36things. So I would definitely be down.
- 2:38Now that that is all out of the way, I am super excited to be
- 2:41here, but please bear with me as I'm getting used to the front of
- 2:44camera and on the mic experience.
- 2:46This isn't something that I've done before, but I'm really
- 2:49excited and I know I have big shoes to fill, so I hope I can
- 2:52do Lauren justice with all that. I do have a couple of stories to
- 2:56share, some of which that happened over our break, so
- 2:59let's just get in into it. The first story is that Mehta is
- 3:02making changes to its moderation process.
- 3:04So last week, Mark Zuckerberg took to social media to share
- 3:07some updates to Mehta's moderation policies.
- 3:09In a video posted to Instagram, Zuckerberg shared why he got
- 3:12into social media, what it means to him, and how he plans to move
- 3:15forward in a new political environment in the US.
- 3:17He began the video by saying that he started building social
- 3:20media platforms in order to give people a voice.
- 3:23But with the increasingly complex systems that have been
- 3:25put into place to moderate dangerous content, Zuckerberg
- 3:28claims that things have been taken too far.
- 3:30There's been widespread debate about potential harms from
- 3:33online content. Governments and legacy media
- 3:36have pushed to censor more and more.
- 3:38A lot of this is clearly political, but there's also a
- 3:41lot of legitimately bad stuff out there.
- 3:43Drugs, terrorism, Child Exploitation.
- 3:46These are things that we take very seriously, and I want to
- 3:48make sure that we handle responsibly.
- 3:50So we built a lot of complex systems to moderate content.
- 3:54But the problem with complex systems is they make mistakes.
- 3:57Even if they accidentally censor just 1% of posts, that's
- 4:01millions of people. And we've reached a point where
- 4:04it's just too many mistakes and too much censorship.
- 4:07So he did share a couple of the changes that Meta is
- 4:10introducing. I took this from a threads post
- 4:13so I'll just read it to you now. The first change is that Meta
- 4:16will be replacing fact checkers with community notes starting in
- 4:19the US, and this is obviously following the approach of X.
- 4:22The next change is that Meta will be simplifying content
- 4:25policies and remove restrictions on topics like immigration and
- 4:28gender that are quote out of touch with mainstream discourse.
- 4:31The next change is that the company will be changing how
- 4:34they enforce policies to remove the vast majority of censorship
- 4:37mistakes by focusing filters on tackling illegal and high
- 4:40severity violations. Next Meta will be bringing back
- 4:43civic content. Over the past few years, there's
- 4:45been a lot of discourse around Meta scaling back its political
- 4:49content, specifically around Threads.
- 4:51The next one is that Meta will be moving their trust and safety
- 4:54and content moderation teams out of California and our US Content
- 4:58review to Texas quote. This will help remove the
- 5:00concern that biased employees are overly censoring content.
- 5:03Interestingly, Mehta's choice to relocate its content moderation
- 5:07team to Texas actually comes off the heel of Elon Musk moving X's
- 5:10team to the state. It is worth noting that his move
- 5:12was partially due to laws passed by California, in particular one
- 5:16that prevented schools from forcing staff to tell anyone,
- 5:19including parents, information about a child's gender identity.
- 5:22These changes are quite interesting because obviously
- 5:25freedom of expression is definitely a huge issue on
- 5:28social media. I'm sure we've all seen cases
- 5:30where certain topics tend to get suppressed online.
- 5:32Even though that might be the case, moderation is really
- 5:35important, especially when you have adults sharing spaces with
- 5:38children. Honestly, this tends to fall on
- 5:40the platform because the legal system is super behind the
- 5:43digital space and government agencies often move slowly, so
- 5:47it makes sense that the platform themselves have to institute
- 5:49these moderation policies. These changes are obviously
- 5:52super timely given that the US is about to enter a second Trump
- 5:55presidency. During his first term, there was
- 5:57quite a big focus on censorship and free speech in the digital
- 6:00world, even if that did mean protecting hate speech.
- 6:03I mean, Trump even made his own social media platform and I
- 6:06think signed an executive order about preventing online
- 6:09censorship from memory. But it feels like Meta's changes
- 6:12are all about aligning with the current political zeitgeist in
- 6:15the US, Whether they're opportunistic or the genuine
- 6:18beliefs of the company, I think it's too early to tell.
- 6:21But either way, with Meta following in the footsteps of X
- 6:24in terms of moderation, which has become a bit of a haven for
- 6:27discriminatory rhetoric, I'm not sure these changes are a good
- 6:31sign for where things are heading, to be honest.
- 6:33In other news coming out of Meta this week, news broke that the
- 6:36company is scaling back its DEI, which is diversity, equity,
- 6:39inclusion policies from what I could find.
- 6:42This story was first reported by Axios after they obtained a memo
- 6:46written by Janelle GAIL, the vice president of human
- 6:48resources. The memo noted the changing
- 6:50legal and policy landscape in the United States around
- 6:53diversity, equity and inclusion, essentially noting that Meta is
- 6:56following suit. Over the past few years, DEI has
- 6:59really become a hot button issue, especially in the US.
- 7:02What has typically been used as schemes to ensure that
- 7:04minorities and marginalised groups have the same
- 7:07opportunities as others has kind of become perceived by many as
- 7:10favouring certain groups over others in the hiring process and
- 7:13also in the workplace more generally.
- 7:16Now, every DEI initiative is run differently, but the overall
- 7:19goal is to make companies and leaders examine the way their
- 7:23company treats or serves marginalised groups.
- 7:25Even though Meta is scaling back on these practices, The memo
- 7:28also said that they will quote continue to source candidates
- 7:31from different background. But with that, obviously the
- 7:34process is changing where the company will focus on quote,
- 7:37fair and consistent practices that mitigate bias for all.
- 7:40And I really hope that is the case.
- 7:42Now what we have all been waiting for, we can't talk about
- 7:44anything tech without talking about the TikTok ban in the US
- 7:47first. I'll start with a little bit of
- 7:49context in case you have missed it.
- 7:51TikTok is facing a nationwide ban in the United States after a
- 7:54bill was signed into law in April last year, which
- 7:57essentially requires fired Byte Dance, Tik Tok's Chinese owned
- 7:59parent company, to divest from the platform or face a ban.
- 8:03The deadline for the sale is January 19.
- 8:05So we are really getting close to that.
- 8:07And it is also just one day before President Biden's term
- 8:10ends. We did touch on this in our
- 8:12final Infinite Scroll episode last year.
- 8:14But since then, there have been a couple of updates, one of
- 8:17which is that the Supreme Court heard oral arguments about the
- 8:20case on January 10. And much of the reporting around
- 8:23it has characterized the Supreme Court's reception to TikTok as
- 8:26quote, UN, quote, Frosty. We definitely don't need to get
- 8:29into the nitty gritty of the hearing, but the Supreme Court
- 8:32justices heard from representatives from TikTok
- 8:34creators and, of course, the federal Justice Department.
- 8:37But I'll give you a little bit of a summary of each side's
- 8:39arguments. The company and TikTok users and
- 8:41creators are essentially arguing that the ban violates Americans
- 8:44First Amendment rights and free speech.
- 8:47Meanwhile, the Biden administration contends that the
- 8:49law is essential for national security due to bite dances
- 8:52Chinese ownership. Trump has also jumped in on the
- 8:55situation, as he so often does, and he filed a brief at the end
- 8:59of last year saying that the court should hold off on the
- 9:01decision, claiming that he could maybe broker a deal once he's in
- 9:04office. As for where it's going to go,
- 9:06many experts and journalists seem to be heading in the
- 9:08direction that the Supreme Court justices will side with the ban.
- 9:11But obviously this is all super unprecedented and no one really
- 9:15knows what's going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the
- 9:17Supreme Court kind of holds off from issuing an opinion on the
- 9:20ban itself and maybe just prolongs the whole process.
- 9:23It is kind of insane that this is all happening right before a
- 9:25new presidential administration enters the White House, but who
- 9:28knows. I am definitely keeping tabs on
- 9:31this and we will keep you updated as Mini Scroll does.
- 9:34Obviously with the concern around the ban that has left
- 9:37users and creators on TikTok spiralling, including many of
- 9:40whom aren't even based in the United States.
- 9:43I don't know about you, but over the past few days, my whole
- 9:45TikTok for you page has been filled with creators making
- 9:48videos, almost issuing eulogies for the platform and of course,
- 9:51encouraging their viewers to follow them to other platforms
- 9:54like Instagram. I think this is all super
- 9:57interesting because like we've said before, if the ban does end
- 10:00up happening, it's unlikely to affect Internet culture and how
- 10:03information is circulated online immediately.
- 10:06It will probably impact creators quicker because brands are not
- 10:09going to be willing to sink money into a platform that has
- 10:12been banned. That all being said, users are
- 10:14now talking about which app to migrate to and a few popular
- 10:17ones have started circulating. The most frequent one I have
- 10:20seen on my For You page is Red Note, which is ironically also a
- 10:23Chinese owned app. I kind of think this is
- 10:25intentional because users seem to be joining in spite of the US
- 10:29government's decisions. I've been seeing it like into
- 10:31Instagram given that it was reportedly made with a lifestyle
- 10:34focus. And honestly, every video I've
- 10:36seen of people using Red Note, they seem to be having a great
- 10:39time. Apart from Red Note, Neptune
- 10:42seems to be another popular suggestion.
- 10:43It's currently in beta, but according to videos on TikTok,
- 10:46it does seem to have a similar function to the For You page
- 10:49where there are options to toggle the algorithm that you
- 10:52see. As far as whether people will
- 10:53actually move to these apps, I'm kind of expecting users to stay
- 10:57on TikTok as long as they can, much like what we have seen with
- 11:00X and the push to move to Blue Sky.
- 11:02While there may be bursts of users moving across, it is so
- 11:06hard to cultivate the same feeling on another app.
- 11:09As for what we can expect in a post TikTok era, I think India
- 11:12is a really interesting example to look to here because they ban
- 11:15the app in 2020. Now obviously India and the US
- 11:19are completely different political and cultural
- 11:21environments, but I did see a creator on TikTok.
- 11:23I didn't write down her name, but I will insert the video talk
- 11:26about how Internet culture operates in India ever since the
- 11:29ban was instituted. And she said that YouTube and
- 11:32podcasts have become the major source of discourse and
- 11:35discussion. Nobody is making videos longer
- 11:37than like a minute, 30 seconds or two minutes Max in India.
- 11:41People aren't really even on Instagram here either.
- 11:44Everyone spends all their time on YouTube with Amazon India's
- 11:48content creator lead, and she said that they pour most of
- 11:51their money into Youtubers and podcasters.
- 11:55I wouldn't be surprised if that's what we'll see because of
- 11:58course that isn't exactly new, but that might be what makes it
- 12:00successful because it isn't foreign to us and we're used to
- 12:03it. Anyway, that is everything from
- 12:05me today. I really hope you enjoyed this
- 12:07weeks episode and you don't miss Lauren too much.
- 12:10She will be back tomorrow. I am sure I will get better at
- 12:13this, but I will see you next Wednesday.
- 12:16Thanks. Bye.