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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're list Saints kf I am six forty the bill
- 0:03Speaker 1: handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio app, and welcome
- 0:08Speaker 1: back as we now start.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I've ever said that, by the way, introducing the seven
- 0:14Speaker 2: o'clock hour, I don't think I just dive right into
- 0:17Speaker 2: the seven o'clock hour. Very weird. I know Neil's going
- 0:20Speaker 2: huh and giving me the look. That's true, that's true.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time. I'm trying to
- 0:25Speaker 2: keep things fresh, you know, especially Saturday. Can imagine Saturday
- 0:30Speaker 2: the Legal Advice Show? Are you ready for this? I've
- 0:33Speaker 2: been doing longer than you've been around. Nineteen eighty five
- 0:37Speaker 2: was my first broadcast, and I'm trying to do something
- 0:40Speaker 2: I've never done before. Also for the first time is
- 0:42Speaker 2: actually give a good legal advice. I don't know how
- 0:46Speaker 2: to do that.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, I hadn't even graduated from high school yet
- 0:51Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty five.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I know, I know it's and you're no youngster. I
- 0:56Speaker 2: know it's pretty sureory not indeed long is Yeah, it's
- 1:01Speaker 2: just absolutely just striking, and no one understands I've been
- 1:05Speaker 2: around for that long. I don't either. Okay, Now something
- 1:09Speaker 2: is going on with the World Cup. I'm actually paying
- 1:11Speaker 2: attention to soccer for the first time football and I
- 1:16Speaker 2: saw this happen. And this was a suspension, a red
- 1:21Speaker 2: card against US player follerin' Balagun. And he, well, he
- 1:27Speaker 2: was the best. He is the best striker. That's his
- 1:30Speaker 2: position on the American team. So he was given a
- 1:34Speaker 2: red card. It's a suspension. And the way it works
- 1:37Speaker 2: is you're thrown out of the game, I believe, and
- 1:40Speaker 2: then the next game you're not allowed to play. And
- 1:44Speaker 2: it was controversial to begin with. Most people looking at
- 1:48Speaker 2: this game did not think he deserved a red card
- 1:51Speaker 2: at all, and so some people were upset. A lot
- 1:55Speaker 2: of people were upset, and included in that is the president. Now,
- 2:00Speaker 2: the president does have a way of inserting himself into
- 2:05Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff, and he did this one again.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Although you know, this is not a horrible invasion of
- 2:13Speaker 2: anybody's privacy or a world threatening situation. And this is
- 2:18Speaker 2: not tariffs, this is not a war in Iran, this
- 2:21Speaker 2: is not holding back and stopping green energy, none of that.
- 2:26Speaker 2: This is he calls up and goes, hey, let's undo
- 2:30Speaker 2: that suspension. You know, Ballagun should play the next round.
- 2:36Speaker 2: And so who was upset about it particularly, Well, a
- 2:40Speaker 2: lot of people in the world of soccer were not
- 2:42Speaker 2: happy with the red card itself. A lot of people
- 2:45Speaker 2: were America is not the most beloved country right now.
- 2:49Speaker 2: So I'll tell you a group of people that were
- 2:50Speaker 2: pretty upset, and that's inside the White House. The game
- 2:56Speaker 2: was marred by this controversial red card, and that meant
- 3:01Speaker 2: the automatic suspension for the next match, as I said,
- 3:04Speaker 2: And that's when senior Trump administration officials came up with
- 3:08Speaker 2: a plan that in the ninety six year history of
- 3:11Speaker 2: the World Cup pretty controversial. Now, FIFA, the body that
- 3:16Speaker 2: oversees the World Cup, protects its role as the final
- 3:20Speaker 2: arbiter of what happens on the field, on the pitch,
- 3:24Speaker 2: they call it. The White House said, now we're going
- 3:29Speaker 2: to change that around. So the President calls the FIFA president,
- 3:33Speaker 2: Gianni Infantino, who happens to be a friend of his,
- 3:37Speaker 2: who happens to show up at a lot of White
- 3:38Speaker 2: House events, for example, UFC fights. He showed up at
- 3:42Speaker 2: even a couple of international peace attempts, and so Commerce
- 3:48Speaker 2: Secretary Howard Lutnick Andrew Giuliani. I didn't know this. He
- 3:52Speaker 2: is the director of the White House's World Cup Tax
- 3:55Speaker 2: Task Force, and that name sounds familiar. He is the
- 3:58Speaker 2: son of Rudolph Giuliani, and he demanded an executive executive intervention.
- 4:06Speaker 2: So Lutnick and Giuliani organized a bunch of phone calls
- 4:09Speaker 2: with Trump. And this, according to people in knowledge, and
- 4:12Speaker 2: the suspension, they argued, wasn't merely undeserved. It threatened to
- 4:16Speaker 2: undermine the US team's chances when Americans took on Belgium
- 4:22Speaker 2: and Trump, who actually was instrumental in bringing the World
- 4:25Speaker 2: Cup to the US, because it's to call a fiefa
- 4:28Speaker 2: and remember, he has a lot of interviews, he has
- 4:31Speaker 2: a lot of say in the way the World Cup runs,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and he has viewed the success of the World Cup
- 4:39Speaker 2: coming to America as a matter of personal frid Now,
- 4:42Speaker 2: he didn't want the ejection to shadow the tournament, which
- 4:46Speaker 2: it really has, and so he instructed his team find
- 4:50Speaker 2: a way to lift the suspension. So they got a
- 4:55Speaker 2: bunch of Trump Oligine lawyers to mount a legal challenge
- 4:59Speaker 2: of the suspendion, which, by the way, they can't. FIFA
- 5:04Speaker 2: is a private organization. It made the decision or upheld
- 5:09Speaker 2: the decision of its referee. Well, it's final. They said,
- 5:15Speaker 2: it's final. We can't do anything about it. Okay, twenty
- 5:18Speaker 2: four hours after the game, guess what, Trump picks up
- 5:23Speaker 2: a phone call to the one person he knows who
- 5:27Speaker 2: could undo all that, and he went ahead and courted
- 5:31Speaker 2: the president of FIFA and got the president to turn
- 5:35Speaker 2: over or change his mind. Wow, that is the issue,
- 5:41Speaker 2: because that has it may have happened once in the
- 5:44Speaker 2: history of the modern Federation of Soccer. FIFA declined to
- 5:49Speaker 2: comment on the White House's influence and insisted that its
- 5:52Speaker 2: disciplinary committee was an independent body, that the President Infantino
- 5:57Speaker 2: has nothing to do with it. Except there is article
- 6:02Speaker 2: twenty seven of the FIVA constitution, if you will, it's
- 6:07Speaker 2: charter that allows the overturning of a decision, which is
- 6:12Speaker 2: almost never used, maybe once twice in the history ninety
- 6:16Speaker 2: six years. And so here again is the accusation that
- 6:22Speaker 2: the president is putting his nose into things he should not,
- 6:26Speaker 2: and I agree that he shouldn't. Accept this one. He
- 6:31Speaker 2: was right. Now, whether him inserting himself was right or
- 6:35Speaker 2: not is a different issue, but he was right. The
- 6:37Speaker 2: red card was a crock. And so the world of
- 6:40Speaker 2: soccer is aghast. Okay, so much for that. Not a
- 6:47Speaker 2: huge story, which is kind of interesting. Another story coming up. Oh,
- 6:51Speaker 2: this one's fun. I don't know if you've been to
- 6:54Speaker 2: Newport Beach, for example, you can't even see the sand.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I'll explain when we come back.
- 7:00Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 7:04Speaker 4: six forty.
- 7:05Speaker 2: As we're diving into the heat of summer and a
- 7:10Speaker 2: couple of things about summer that I'm going to share
- 7:14Speaker 2: with you. One of them is going to the beach. Now.
- 7:18Speaker 2: I don't know if you are a beach goer, I
- 7:21Speaker 2: am not. If I want to get sand in my
- 7:25Speaker 2: butt crack, I'm just better off going to the hardware store,
- 7:30Speaker 2: getting some sandpaper and just rubbing the top of my butt.
- 7:34Speaker 2: It's why not. It's about the same. So a quick
- 7:38Speaker 2: question round the room. Amy beachgoer s no, okay, I'm
- 7:46Speaker 2: not in general, Will beachgoer. Will is not listening Will beachgoer,
- 7:54Speaker 2: He's still no, he's not. I have actually seen pictures
- 7:58Speaker 2: of Will on the beach with people poking him at
- 8:00Speaker 2: six ohkay and beach yes, I love the beach. Oh
- 8:06Speaker 2: good for you. Tony's not there, and Neil is not
- 8:09Speaker 2: there they will both run off during the show. Oh
- 8:12Speaker 2: there's Neil beach goer. Neil, what was that beach goer?
- 8:18Speaker 3: I do like the beach, and we went a lot
- 8:20Speaker 3: as a kid, but I don't go as much as
- 8:23Speaker 3: I used to.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate the beach. I've never liked. I've never
- 8:26Speaker 2: known the beach is lovely. The beach is horrible.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Beaches to us or Santa Monica, Yeah.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I know. But to get five miles, yeah, especially along
- 8:37Speaker 2: pch and it is god awful. Oh, just a quick
- 8:42Speaker 2: story about the beach because I used to go when
- 8:45Speaker 2: I was much younger, just as I got my driver's license.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And if you went along pch And of course it'd
- 8:51Speaker 2: be this hot summer days. You see, you know, a
- 8:53Speaker 2: million a million people if you go from Santa Monica
- 8:55Speaker 2: up to Zuma, which is several miles. And that's when
- 8:59Speaker 2: k was the walk station of the world. It was
- 9:04Speaker 2: am station and as you drove up, the entire beach
- 9:10Speaker 2: was a single loudspeaker with KH playing. I mean, the
- 9:18Speaker 2: ratings they had in those days were just incredible. Okay,
- 9:22Speaker 2: So here is a story. Particularly Let's say you go
- 9:24Speaker 2: to Newport Beach and Newport beach has now a rule
- 9:30Speaker 2: that canopies you got there, you know, tense canopies, not
- 9:33Speaker 2: just umbrellas, but those ten x ten pence tents can't
- 9:38Speaker 2: be larger than six feet by six feet, and those
- 9:42Speaker 2: tents are ten feet by ten feet, and the other
- 9:45Speaker 2: thing people tend to do is connect them, so you
- 9:50Speaker 2: have thirty forty feet of structure. And they would put
- 9:58Speaker 2: all kinds of things on beach, obviously, chairs, sometimes even
- 10:03Speaker 2: couches to enjoy the beach, and people would come out
- 10:06Speaker 2: in the early morning and set those up. And a
- 10:10Speaker 2: lot of people don't like that because that ruins the beach,
- 10:13Speaker 2: I mean for a whole lot of people. And the
- 10:18Speaker 2: city is saying, no, you can't do that anymore. Especially
- 10:22Speaker 2: you know that lifeguards can't see over those things, and
- 10:25Speaker 2: anybody that puts a tent, and let's say a lifeguard
- 10:30Speaker 2: is trying to look down the beach, the tent can
- 10:32Speaker 2: get in the way and people are simply not enjoying
- 10:36Speaker 2: the tent. And whatever happened to canopies, umbrellas and those
- 10:42Speaker 2: beach chairs that you sit that are two inches off
- 10:47Speaker 2: the sand that if you don't have incredible quads, there's
- 10:49Speaker 2: no way for you to ever get up off the chair. Now,
- 10:53Speaker 2: I remember there was a time when going to the
- 10:55Speaker 2: beach was fun. I don't know if you remember. Boy,
- 10:59Speaker 2: does this date me? You now have the flip top
- 11:02Speaker 2: as you do cans where soda and beer. You open
- 11:08Speaker 2: it up by just moving the flip top and then
- 11:11Speaker 2: it opens and nothing comes out of it. It used
- 11:14Speaker 2: to be that those tops you would take offs. Yes,
- 11:20Speaker 2: the pool tabs sharp, and they'd be left on the
- 11:24Speaker 2: beach and people would just slice up their feet like crazy.
- 11:29Speaker 2: You'd see parts of the beach that were the sand
- 11:32Speaker 2: was red from people that had cut up their feet. See,
- 11:36Speaker 2: those were the days when the beach was fun.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Or would you go you'd go back to the car
- 11:41Speaker 3: with tar all over your feet.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other one. Yeah. And now added to
- 11:46Speaker 2: all this is sharks are eating people. It used to
- 11:50Speaker 2: be that a shark blite you'd have two or three
- 11:54Speaker 2: in the world per year. But now with climate chains change,
- 12:00Speaker 2: sharps sharks are moving closer to the beach and they'll
- 12:04Speaker 2: swim in two feet of water. I mean, they're not shy.
- 12:09Speaker 2: And people get eaten. And that's another thing. Why would
- 12:13Speaker 2: you go to the beach to have your foot eaten.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Aren't you better off? Aren't you better off? Just July fourth?
- 12:22Speaker 2: Having your hand blown off?
- 12:24Speaker 3: I think they're still pretty rare.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Sure you'd be surprised. You would be surprised, Amy, I
- 12:30Speaker 2: don't know if you've been reporting, you've remember how many
- 12:33Speaker 2: shark attacks the last month where people have been bitten,
- 12:38Speaker 2: particularly in southern California. In southern California, it's very rare.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Stop it. How many around the country. Okay, let's go
- 12:46Speaker 2: to Florida. Okay, let's go to the Gulf Coast or
- 12:49Speaker 2: the Atlantic Ocean. How many? Well, there have been zero
- 12:55Speaker 2: in southern California. And let's see in Florida. You're not
- 12:59Speaker 2: helping me at all.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, what about climate change?
- 13:05Speaker 2: Amy?
- 13:06Speaker 3: There have been two confirmed shark attacks in Florida in
- 13:09Speaker 3: the past month.
- 13:11Speaker 2: And one hundred gators. Yeah, the gators. That's it. Gators.
- 13:16Speaker 2: You go to the beach and it's gators that'll kill you.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Or you go to the beach and sunburn will hit
- 13:24Speaker 2: you. You will get a sunburn and you will develop melanoma
- 13:29Speaker 2: and you will die.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Okayish, don't forget about the Portuguese man of war.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Those will bite you, and they they'll sting you and
- 13:40Speaker 2: you will die. And what about the sting rays and
- 13:43Speaker 2: the stingrays. Now we go back to going to the
- 13:47Speaker 2: hardware store. No stingrays, no sharks, right, certainly no jellyfish.
- 13:56Speaker 2: But you still want the sand in the crack of
- 13:59Speaker 2: your butt. Okay, we're done with that. The Smithsonian another
- 14:04Speaker 2: one where the White House is intervening big time, and
- 14:09Speaker 2: this is an issue of political either correctness or not.
- 14:12Speaker 2: I'll share that story with you on a Monday, July sixth.
- 14:17Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 14:21Speaker 4: six forty as well.
- 14:23Speaker 2: The rest of the country is in this horrific weather
- 14:27Speaker 2: pattern between heat spells that forty people died, well, the floods,
- 14:33Speaker 2: the rains and then the heat spells. I mean, it
- 14:35Speaker 2: has not been pleasant. Why do we all live in
- 14:37Speaker 2: southern California. It has been delightful here weatherwise, and we
- 14:42Speaker 2: really like the traffic and we really enjoy the taxes
- 14:47Speaker 2: and the housing issue. Okay, maybe there's some issues here
- 14:50Speaker 2: in Southern California, but not the weather. Now, history, I
- 14:54Speaker 2: want to explain something about history for a moment. History
- 14:59Speaker 2: is very the way a country looks at history, and
- 15:04Speaker 2: usually history is described as duell. It's put into a
- 15:10Speaker 2: description with the winning side. You know, for example, the
- 15:16Speaker 2: Founding Fathers were either traders or they were freedom fighters
- 15:22Speaker 2: and they created a country. Which side would you like
- 15:25Speaker 2: to look at? Both are legitimate, but since we won,
- 15:31Speaker 2: the Founding fathers are heroes. By the way, there have
- 15:34Speaker 2: never been heroes in England. I mean, they appreciate the
- 15:38Speaker 2: Founding Fathers now, but believe me, they don't celebrate July fourth.
- 15:42Speaker 2: They don't put up statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson.
- 15:47Speaker 2: They just don't do that. And so there's two ways
- 15:50Speaker 2: of looking at American history across the board. The big
- 15:55Speaker 2: original sin of America is slavery. I mean, that's the beginning,
- 15:59Speaker 2: in the end of them, the ultimate sin of America.
- 16:04Speaker 2: But beyond that, another part of our history is the
- 16:07Speaker 2: way we treat immigrants all the way from Jim Crow
- 16:11Speaker 2: laws after Reconstruction, after the enslaved Americans, blacks were given
- 16:18Speaker 2: the right to vote. By the time Reconstruction happened, that
- 16:21Speaker 2: right was taken away for the most part. That q
- 16:23Speaker 2: Klis Klan got into America or became powerful. And again,
- 16:29Speaker 2: what's history. The Confederate flag. You talk to a Southerner,
- 16:32Speaker 2: the Confederate flag is a wonderful symbol. You talk to
- 16:36Speaker 2: a Northerner, not so much. Or how about putting one
- 16:40Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand Japanese Americans into concentration and tournament
- 16:45Speaker 2: camps during World War Two? A little bit of history
- 16:48Speaker 2: that's not so positive. So with that being said, the
- 16:53Speaker 2: Smithsonian Museums is being criticized, are being criticized by the
- 17:00Speaker 2: White House for extreme political activism. And this is once
- 17:05Speaker 2: again the White House going into what is heretofore an
- 17:09Speaker 2: independent organization that was traditionally there was a firewall between
- 17:15Speaker 2: the White House and the Smithsonian, as there was a
- 17:18Speaker 2: firewall between the Department of Justice, for example, and the
- 17:22Speaker 2: Smithsonian and the FED as a Smithsonian as the FED
- 17:27Speaker 2: as independent. Excuse me. So there is one hundred and
- 17:33Speaker 2: sixty two page report written by the White House Domestic
- 17:37Speaker 2: Policy Council, and what it writes is that the museum's
- 17:45Speaker 2: presentation of American history is revisionist, and it's the latest
- 17:50Speaker 2: attempt in the administration's campaign to pressure the Smithsonian into
- 17:54Speaker 2: conforming what the President has said and described as patriotic
- 17:59Speaker 2: history and once ago again, it's a question of how
- 18:04Speaker 2: Americans view their own history and where is one of
- 18:09Speaker 2: the principal views of history through museums, through the Smithsonian,
- 18:16Speaker 2: which is our national museum. So the report concludes that
- 18:20Speaker 2: the Smithsonian, twenty one museums, the National Zoo has not
- 18:24Speaker 2: met its obligation to the American people and particular blame
- 18:30Speaker 2: that really nails it as the National Museum of American History.
- 18:34Speaker 2: The report is titled Saving America's Story. How ideological capture
- 18:41Speaker 2: at the Museum Institution's National Museum of American History erases
- 18:46Speaker 2: our heritage, accuses the museum of anti white bias, minimizing
- 18:53Speaker 2: and distorting the nation's founding, and these actions have shifted
- 18:58Speaker 2: the museum's mission from straightforward historal historical education and scholarship
- 19:05Speaker 2: towards an extremely political activism that seeks to transform our
- 19:11Speaker 2: country again. How do we look at history? You can
- 19:18Speaker 2: look at it of one of two ways, through the
- 19:22Speaker 2: lens of a negative aspect of what we have done,
- 19:26Speaker 2: slavery which is a big one, the way minorities have
- 19:30Speaker 2: been treated, the way the country started, or the other
- 19:36Speaker 2: side of it, where you downplay the negatives and you
- 19:40Speaker 2: uplift the patriotic part of what, for example, the founding
- 19:46Speaker 2: fathers did. There was actually a lot of discussion about
- 19:51Speaker 2: slavery during the founding of this country, and historically, guess
- 19:58Speaker 2: what happened. The found fathers left history, left slavery in place,
- 20:04Speaker 2: and it wasn't a moral decision of any kind. It
- 20:07Speaker 2: was a political decision. They wanted the Southern States to
- 20:10Speaker 2: be part of the United States of America. Abraham Lincoln's
- 20:14Speaker 2: mess Emancimpation Proclamation was a military decision for the most part.
- 20:22Speaker 2: If you look at the historical background. Remember, he only
- 20:27Speaker 2: freed the slaves in the South, not the slave states
- 20:30Speaker 2: that were in the north, because he already had them.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Those slave states in the North were already part of
- 20:41Speaker 2: the Civil War on the north side, and he wanted
- 20:44Speaker 2: the slaves to be actually against their own country, if
- 20:49Speaker 2: you will, the Confederacy. So we can go into the
- 20:52Speaker 2: history of that. But it's the question of looking at
- 20:54Speaker 2: Neilia giving me a weird view here.
- 20:56Speaker 3: No, no i, as you were born in Brazil. Yes,
- 21:00Speaker 3: and Brazil had way more slavery than we did. All
- 21:03Speaker 3: slavery being bad, but Brazil had way more slavery than
- 21:07Speaker 3: the United States.
- 21:08Speaker 2: How do they treat it there. You know what, I
- 21:10Speaker 2: don't know they allowed slavery, didn't It wasn't it wasn't
- 21:15Speaker 2: maybe illegal until the late eighteen hundreds, I think, thirty
- 21:19Speaker 2: years after the United States got rid of slavery. Yeah. Yeah,
- 21:24Speaker 2: And when you talk about Americans and slavery, keep in
- 21:27Speaker 2: mind that most of the slaves were in the South,
- 21:30Speaker 2: and there were more slaves than people in the South.
- 21:34Speaker 2: In the North not so much. There were some in
- 21:37Speaker 2: the slave States, but those are very few. The rest
- 21:39Speaker 2: of the country, there was no slavery. Okay, I want
- 21:43Speaker 2: to take a break and come back, and now, you know,
- 21:46Speaker 2: I know those are legitimate questions, but I don't want
- 21:48Speaker 2: to get into that because that's not the topic. The
- 21:51Speaker 2: topic is what's happening at the Smithsonian and the way
- 21:55Speaker 2: we are viewing history.
- 21:57Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
- 22:01Speaker 4: AM six forty.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Some of the big stories we're looking at. House Speaker
- 22:04Speaker 2: Mike Johnson after the Court said that the president can't
- 22:09Speaker 2: move forward or Congress won't move forward with the president's
- 22:15Speaker 2: voter id legislation, and so Mike Johnson, the Speaker, said
- 22:19Speaker 2: he plans to move quickly to advance the president legislation
- 22:25Speaker 2: through what he can do reconciliation. That was after Mike
- 22:27Speaker 2: Johnson went ahead and when the President said rollover, play dead,
- 22:33Speaker 2: heal paw, give me your paw and gave him a treat.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Then it worked out where Mike Johnson said, of course
- 22:40Speaker 2: I'll do it. Okay, Back we go to what's happening
- 22:43Speaker 2: with the Smithsonian report just came out that basically reported
- 22:48Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two pages, and it is a
- 22:51Speaker 2: White House report done by White House folks, the Mestic
- 22:57Speaker 2: Policy Council that the Smithsonian, which has been long regarded
- 23:04Speaker 2: as independent of the Executive Branch, although under the power
- 23:07Speaker 2: of executive branch, has focused on American history in a
- 23:14Speaker 2: negative light, pushing slavery and the negative part the history
- 23:19Speaker 2: of the United States, and not pushing what the founding
- 23:24Speaker 2: fathers and what historians say are the positive parts of America.
- 23:31Speaker 2: For example, we were the first country in the world
- 23:33Speaker 2: to establish democracy as part of the American landscape. No
- 23:39Speaker 2: other country had done that. Government by the people, of
- 23:43Speaker 2: the people, for the people, as Lincoln said, no other
- 23:46Speaker 2: country did that. Now throughout the world, democracy is considered
- 23:50Speaker 2: a positive and despots are considered way negative. Used to
- 23:54Speaker 2: be that kings just ruled and that was part of
- 23:58Speaker 2: doing business as a country. So what the President has
- 24:03Speaker 2: done is call on Advance to overhaul the Smithsonian with
- 24:07Speaker 2: the help of Congress, and the President describing what the
- 24:11Speaker 2: Smithsonian is doing as a revisionist movement that seeks to
- 24:15Speaker 2: undermine the remarkable achievements of the United States by casting
- 24:20Speaker 2: the founding principles and historical milestones in a negative light,
- 24:25Speaker 2: effectively downplaying the argument, downplaying the exhibits that put American
- 24:32Speaker 2: a negative light. And here again, which way, what do
- 24:36Speaker 2: you concentrate on the negative or do you ignore the
- 24:41Speaker 2: positive for the most part or downplay it or the
- 24:44Speaker 2: other way around. And the President is very clear on
- 24:49Speaker 2: his view of American American history, and that is you
- 24:53Speaker 2: weigh downplay the negative and you weigh up play the positives.
- 25:00Speaker 2: The point is you have to do both, and you
- 25:03Speaker 2: have to do it with the equality on both both
- 25:07Speaker 2: sides being equal. What does that mean though, who makes
- 25:10Speaker 2: that decision? Well, the President said, the Smithsonians made that
- 25:14Speaker 2: decision clearly, and it's pushing for the negative. And that's
- 25:19Speaker 2: what the exhibits show and those that are on the
- 25:25Speaker 2: other side are saying that the negatives are being portrayed
- 25:32Speaker 2: way too extensively and the positives are not. Do I
- 25:36Speaker 2: have that right back and forth? I don't know if
- 25:38Speaker 2: I just conflated the two, but it is important now.
- 25:42Speaker 2: The Smithsonian says it is a double hit. For example,
- 25:47Speaker 2: there is part of the Smithsonian there is the Black
- 25:52Speaker 2: Experience where it talks about slavery. It's effectively a museum
- 25:57Speaker 2: of slavery. But they're also museums of the other side,
- 26:03Speaker 2: what the Founding Fathers did. For example, there's a museum
- 26:08Speaker 2: near me called the Molten Museum. It's a small museum
- 26:12Speaker 2: m U L t O N. And it is a museum,
- 26:15Speaker 2: and their exhibit right now is about the historical significant
- 26:20Speaker 2: significance and how important the Founding Fathers and the Independent
- 26:25Speaker 2: movement is to the exclusivity of anything else. It's how
- 26:33Speaker 2: you look at history. And I think both sides are wrong.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Do I think that the President is more wrong? Yeah?
- 26:43Speaker 2: I do, because I think that the Smithsonian does give
- 26:46Speaker 2: both sides where the President wants to really downplay the
- 26:53Speaker 2: negatives of this country because he believes, and a lot
- 26:56Speaker 2: of people believe, that the United States is almost flawless.
- 27:01Speaker 2: That we are the greatest country in the world. I
- 27:03Speaker 2: don't know what that means. By the way, the greatest
- 27:05Speaker 2: country in the world, let's break that down, infant mortality,
- 27:11Speaker 2: the medical system. We're the greatest country in the world,
- 27:15Speaker 2: aren't we. How about lifespan the greatest country in the world. No,
- 27:20Speaker 2: none of that.
- 27:21Speaker 3: About opportunity and liberty, Opportunity is at the top of
- 27:24Speaker 3: the heat.
- 27:24Speaker 2: That's one of the better ones. Higher education is the
- 27:28Speaker 2: best in the world. Our top universities are the best.
- 27:33Speaker 2: How about the cost of education is horrific and a
- 27:37Speaker 2: lot of countries college is either free or it is
- 27:43Speaker 2: very low price. But not everybody goes to college. It's
- 27:46Speaker 2: a very limited group of people that go to college,
- 27:49Speaker 2: the top five percent. George Bush George W. Bush said
- 27:53Speaker 2: every American should be able to go to college. What
- 27:55Speaker 2: a croc. That's not true. There are plenty of people
- 28:00Speaker 2: that aren't college material. It's just that simple. I mean,
- 28:04Speaker 2: I went to college without being college material. I might add,
- 28:09Speaker 2: but I live in America. If I lived in England,
- 28:13Speaker 2: there'd be no chance I'd get into university.
- 28:17Speaker 3: The United States is the most immigrated to country in
- 28:22Speaker 3: the entire world.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Yes, that's the other thing. That is the other thing.
- 28:26Speaker 2: As much as we don't like minorities, in many cases
- 28:29Speaker 2: we have more immigrants that have made America what it is.
- 28:34Speaker 2: It is that is a country that we have to
- 28:37Speaker 2: look at at the best in the world. Except how
- 28:40Speaker 2: do you look at immigration? Is it a positive or
- 28:44Speaker 2: is it a negative? Again, how do you look at history? Okay, liquor,
- 28:54Speaker 2: do you know the liquor companies, the liquor producers, the purveyors,
- 28:58Speaker 2: the distributors that we Taylor's ain't doing so good? And Neil,
- 29:04Speaker 2: you are a drinker of spirits? Well not right now,
- 29:07Speaker 2: but no, I do enjoy. Yeah, I have seen you.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I have seen you drink your old fashions, many many
- 29:14Speaker 2: of them in one evening as you damn near fell
- 29:18Speaker 2: off the boat. You were so drunk. I'll come back
- 29:21Speaker 2: with that KF I am six.
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