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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Don Tolzmann, Oktoberfest, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 505.
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  Speaker 2: The 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday. There it is. Woo-hoo,
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  Speaker 2: it must be Friday. Or it's a confirmation it's Friday.
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  Speaker 2: The way you want to look at it, it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm extraordinarily happy about it, as I typically am.
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  Speaker 2: Love me my Fridays. Because Tech Friday with Dave Hatter,
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  Speaker 2: there's one reason to love a Friday. Coming up every
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  Speaker 2: Friday at 6.30. And we'll hear from Dave Hatter today about, well,
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  Speaker 2: some good news apparently for iPhone users. The headline, I
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  Speaker 2: changed these iPhone call settings and spam callers barely reach
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  Speaker 2: me anymore. Yeah, I wish I had that feature. Although
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  Speaker 2: going back to early voting taking place beginning on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: I was at an engagement last night for Leah Denkelocher.
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  Speaker 2: Vote Leah Denkelocher for judge. We need to elect her
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  Speaker 2: to the bench, put her there permanently because we need
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  Speaker 2: better judges in Hamilton County. But I did bring up
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  Speaker 2: the point that was made the other day. If you vote,
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  Speaker 2: get your vote in. Don't wait. Cast it. You'll quit
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  Speaker 2: getting mailers, and you'll quit getting inundated by, well, politically
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  Speaker 2: related texts and cell phone calls. Apparently, they know who
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  Speaker 2: you are, and they know whether you vote. Creepy, Orwellian, perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: but at least you know that they know, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a benefit to you to vote early. Get it out
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  Speaker 2: of the way. Don't sit on your hands. That was
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  Speaker 2: the message last night, too. I mean, this is a
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  Speaker 2: message everyone needs to get out. You've got to tell
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  Speaker 2: your friends to vote. You've got to tell your friends
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  Speaker 2: to tell their friends to vote. So important. And the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing, Drew Pappas, former Anderson Township trustee, called up
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  Speaker 2: the other day and pointed this out. And I even
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  Speaker 2: used it as an example last night when I was
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  Speaker 2: talking for Leah Dengelacher. Five people, 5,000 people, voted in
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  Speaker 2: the prior election and didn't show up in the subsequent election,
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  Speaker 2: which is why the trustees in Anderson Township are all
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  Speaker 2: Democrats now. You give a Lexi Lawson to what you've
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  Speaker 2: got now? How in God's name did that happen in
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  Speaker 2: Anderson Township? People didn't go vote. And by all accounts,
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  Speaker 2: Anderson Township, not as blue as one might perceive it
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  Speaker 2: to be based upon the political makeup over there. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so get out and vote, and then you won't be
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  Speaker 2: inundated with this, even if you don't have one of
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  Speaker 2: these iPhones that allow you to prevent spam from coming in. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I went down that cul-de-sac. Anyway, America's driver's license breach
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  Speaker 2: is a national security disaster. You may recall the gazillions,
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  Speaker 2: 153 million specifically driver's licenses from the United States and Canada.
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  Speaker 2: All those were stolen. Huge breach. And apparently broader implications
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  Speaker 2: than you or I are familiar with. That's why we
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  Speaker 2: have Dave Hatter to talk about them. And then third topic,
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  Speaker 2: recent water utility attacks offering a blueprint for resilience. So
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  Speaker 2: learning from, well, prior mistakes, prior attacks. That's what you
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  Speaker 2: got to do. So hopefully, and maybe they're all listening
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  Speaker 2: to Dave Hatter and taking steps to improve security. Don Tolzman.
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  Speaker 2: Herr Toltzman, our German, well, the region's top German expert.
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  Speaker 2: Herr Toltzman has two new books out. The first, Description
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  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati and Other Ohio Settlements, subtitled The Travel Report
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  Speaker 2: of Johann Heckewalder from 1792. And the second one, The
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  Speaker 2: First Mayor of Cincinnati, George Katzenberger's Biography of Major David Ziegler.
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  Speaker 2: All right. It may be obscure to a certain degree,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll hear from Eric Toltzman at 7.30 on that.
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  Speaker 2: Donna Schwaben, speaking of things German, back-to-back. Joe Strecker, also German.
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  Speaker 2: Donna Schwaben, Oktoberfest is this weekend, and I love the
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  Speaker 2: words in-studio. Whenever I see a guest or something we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about here on the 55 KRC Morning Shows in-studio,
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  Speaker 2: I put a big smile on my face, most notably
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  Speaker 2: when it's an Oktoberfest or a German-related event. They usually
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  Speaker 2: come with, yes, food and beverages. And a really positive attitude.
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  Speaker 2: What a better day of the week could there be
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  Speaker 2: than Friday to talk to the Oktoberfest folks. So Donna Schwaben,
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  Speaker 2: Oktoberfest is taking place this weekend, so you've got something
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  Speaker 2: fun to do. Jack Windsor from the Ohio Press Network.
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  Speaker 2: The story of Ismail Mohamed, he brought that to our attention,
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  Speaker 2: as he has in the OhioPressNetwork.com website. We'll hear some
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  Speaker 2: new developments in that particular issue. What's going on at
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  Speaker 2: Garver Farms in Butler County? I don't know. Jack's going
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  Speaker 2: to tell us all about it. Plus, the latest polling data. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: there's that word again.
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  Speaker 3: Poll.
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  Speaker 2: Do we believe them or not? Anyhow, that's the lineup
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  Speaker 2: for this morning. I love hearing from you, so if
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  Speaker 2: you've got a comment, a thought, an idea, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 2: Go with pound 550 on your AT & T phones. Well,
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  Speaker 2: 20-year homicide low. We've got an issue with crime in
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  Speaker 2: the downtown Cincinnati area, but The homicide rates, the number
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  Speaker 2: of people that actually died, is at a historic low.
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  Speaker 2: Enquirer's Cameron Knight reporting on this. Don't believe your eyes. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: you can believe your ears. Shot spotter does hear the
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  Speaker 2: gunshots that everyone in the neighborhoods have been hearing. So
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  Speaker 2: much so, it's like how often does the train go by?
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  Speaker 2: So often you don't even notice. People shoot guns all
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  Speaker 2: the time. And occasionally they hit somebody. 40 homicides so
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  Speaker 2: far this year. It's apparently a record, well, at least
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  Speaker 2: since 2006. So they go back 20 years. Only 2012
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  Speaker 2: recorded fewer homicides through September 22nd with 36. So what
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  Speaker 2: ends up being the total for the year? It could
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  Speaker 2: be the lowest homicide rate in the last 20 years
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  Speaker 2: for the entire year. As of right now, it's on
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  Speaker 2: pace for that. And good. Interim Police Chief Adam Henney. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and by the way, there's another report. I believe it's from,
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  Speaker 2: is it the Inquirer? Channel 12, Local 12, headline, Cincinnati
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  Speaker 2: has not started the process to find a permanent police chief.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Cheryl Long comes off as an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and draw your own conclusions about Cheryl Long.
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  Speaker 2: But you recall she did fire police chief Fiji. Fiji
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  Speaker 2: is waiting for her administrative, well, they appealed the dismissal
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  Speaker 2: through an administrative process. That's going to take place and
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  Speaker 2: be resolved at least by November. And if they dismiss that,
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  Speaker 2: then she's going to go ahead and file suit for
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  Speaker 2: wrongful termination. So that's all hanging fire. She wants her
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  Speaker 2: job back, which probably explains why the city of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 2: has not engaged in a search for a new police
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  Speaker 2: chief and why Adam Henney is still interim. But back
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  Speaker 2: over to Adam Henney's comment about the average or 20-year low.
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  Speaker 2: He said the three-year average for homicide is down nearly 24%. Fine,
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  Speaker 2: that's good. Shootings, fatal and non-fatal, are similar to last year,
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  Speaker 2: which apparently was also a historic low, shooting still 19%
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  Speaker 2: in 2025 and down 41% since the peak of 2020.
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  Speaker 2: Forty homicides that we know so far this year, 20
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  Speaker 2: different neighborhoods, apparently four in Middlevale and Northside. City's homicide
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  Speaker 2: statistic includes deaths that may be classified as murder, but
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  Speaker 2: also includes self-defense killings and police shootings. Does not include
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  Speaker 2: motor vehicle deaths, even if a person is found to
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  Speaker 2: be at fault. There's your qualifying, well, your parameters there.
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  Speaker 2: So there have been no shootings or no homicides in
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  Speaker 2: Over the Rhine this year. Last year, there were nine,
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  Speaker 2: more than any neighborhood in the city. They do concentrate
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  Speaker 2: a lot of police activity in Over the Rhine, if
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  Speaker 2: you haven't noticed. Central Business District in Over the Rhine.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see here. Now, no killings in Over the Rhine, but...
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  Speaker 2: Reporting says they continue to experience gun violence. And this
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  Speaker 2: is where I go back to ShotSpotter, 14 non-fatal shootings.
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  Speaker 2: And then they turn over to, hmm, why is it
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  Speaker 2: that there are fewer murders, fewer people dying? Well, they
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  Speaker 2: give credit, of course, logically so, improve medical care, on-site
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  Speaker 2: medical care, emergency trauma care, right where the victim's laying
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. Then they take them up to UC
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  Speaker 2: Medical Center, which is the area's only trauma center, where
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  Speaker 2: they get good medical care and they stay alive so
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  Speaker 2: they're not reported as a death. Just someone who got
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  Speaker 2: hit with a bullet. All firefighters get extensive medical training.
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  Speaker 2: They interviewed the president, Ken Kober, police union president. We've
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  Speaker 2: had him on the program a bunch of times. People
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  Speaker 2: are getting better care. They get to the hospital. Police
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  Speaker 2: are carrying tourniquets, administering first aid on the site. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of props to UC Medical Center. Penny gave credit
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  Speaker 2: to the increased walking patrols, which he said are up 250%
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  Speaker 2: over last year. Wait a second. There we go back
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  Speaker 2: again to the reality. More police, less crime. More police.
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  Speaker 2: How does Iris Rowley feel about that? 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound
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  Speaker 2: 550 on AT & T phones. Sounds like a good
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  Speaker 2: concept to me. More to talk about coming up and
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  Speaker 2: Stack is Stupid at 540. Bottom of the hour, we'll
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  Speaker 2: hear phone calls and local stories. Be right back. 55KRC.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Whitney Allen.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Donald J.
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  Speaker 1: Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And I approve this message.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Don.
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  Speaker 1: 519.
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  Speaker 7: Let me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: I heard Motorhead on the radio the other day, Joe Strecker.
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  Speaker 2: I immediately thought of you. Isn't that nice? I connect
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  Speaker 2: Motorhead with you, Joe. Isn't that a pleasant thought? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if Chris Cross came on some song from
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  Speaker 2: just a general question? I saw this article from the
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Exchange about the cost of college in the greater
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati area. You've got several options, right? I went to
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  Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati. I got two degrees there. I'm 61
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  Speaker 2: years old. I can retire. I'm happy with the education
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  Speaker 2: I got there. I don't believe my life is... struggled.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't suffered from going to University of Cincinnati. I
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  Speaker 2: got hired by a very large litigation firm in Chicago
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  Speaker 2: that didn't seem to really care that it was University
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  Speaker 2: of Cincinnati or Harvard Law, Harvard undergrad, right? Harvard Law School, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You're learning from basically the same materials. And I think
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  Speaker 2: about like, for example, a mathematics, something related to mathematics,
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  Speaker 2: something that is you know, purely scientifically driven, there is
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  Speaker 2: no wrong answer to the question two plus two is four.
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  Speaker 2: And I assume physics and engineering and all that is
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  Speaker 2: very concrete. So it's not as though a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're not dealing with philosophy where you might have a more,
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  Speaker 2: you know, intellectually driven professor, a higher level of some
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  Speaker 2: intellect or whatever. But if you're dealing with something non-concrete,
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  Speaker 2: I can imagine that might matter. But If you're in
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  Speaker 2: an engineering classroom at the University of Cincinnati or, by contrast,
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  Speaker 2: at Xavier University, is there really truly any difference? And
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember specifically what my parents paid to get
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  Speaker 2: me through University of Cincinnati, but they did not argue
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  Speaker 2: with me when I said I wanted to go there.
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  Speaker 2: I had a lot of friends going there. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: someplace where I at least had some connection and familiarity
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  Speaker 2: other than being tossed onto some campus out of town
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  Speaker 2: where you don't know anyone, you've got to start all over,
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  Speaker 2: the concerns and the anxieties that the young person naturally
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  Speaker 2: would have in that. So it was perfectly acceptable to me.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have to go on trips. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: go visit universities. We're going to go to blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: Out-of-state tuition was not an issue for my mom and dad.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously a lot more expensive. University of Cincinnati tuition ranges
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  Speaker 2: from $ 7, 160 to $ 14, 824 per year. It depends on whether
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  Speaker 2: you're at a regional campus or you're at the main campus.
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  Speaker 2: So for the 26, 27 academic year, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a Northern Kentucky University for $ 11, 700. Or, and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: having a go at Xavier University private school. It is $ 54, 000.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 8: Why?
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  Speaker 2: What do you get? That's what I want to know.
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  Speaker 2: What are you getting? Parents out there sending your kids
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  Speaker 2: through college, what did you decide? What was the benefit
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  Speaker 2: of going to a college that is three times or
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  Speaker 2: so more expensive than the other options that are available
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  Speaker 2: out there? I personally don't know because I went through
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  Speaker 2: the cheaper option, two degrees from University of Cincinnati, and
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  Speaker 2: law school is actually comparatively affordable. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it costs to go to law school at UC now,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what. It's a lot cheaper than
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  Speaker 2: going to one of the Ivy Leagues, and are you
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  Speaker 2: getting a better education from Ivy League, or are we
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  Speaker 2: all dealing with the realities of marketing? How is it
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  Speaker 2: the word Harvard became this, you know, angels from on
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  Speaker 2: high in a chorus when you mention it? I don't
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  Speaker 2: buy into that for a minute anymore. It's a bunch of,
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  Speaker 2: it's a woke, left-wing, ideologically dominated school. You read about
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  Speaker 2: it all the time. I don't know if the engineering
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  Speaker 2: department is woke or not, but is there a difference?
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  Speaker 2: Mount St. Joe University, $ 39, 750 a year. $ 54, 530 at Xavier University. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: just a thought exercise. If you can answer the question,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you can defend Xavier University and its high tuition
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  Speaker 2: costs and the value that you get from that education
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  Speaker 2: versus what I would argue is a comparable education in
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  Speaker 2: another university. I'd love to know the answer to that
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  Speaker 2: question because I've been sort of pondering it for quite
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  Speaker 2: a few years now. And guess what? The Department of Education,
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  Speaker 2: stepping up to the plate. Secretary of Education Linda McMahon
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  Speaker 2: sent a letter that she posted just the other day
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  Speaker 2: issued to teachers and education leaders across this land. Students
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  Speaker 2: should be able to compare the true history of socialism's
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  Speaker 2: violent ideology, pervasive atrocities, and spectacular failures with the contrasting
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  Speaker 2: success of the constitutional republic designed by America's founders. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: someone is speaking out. Our children need to understand the
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  Speaker 2: reason why the United States is so economically powerful, so
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  Speaker 2: has been the most economically powerful nation the world has
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, the most successful nation, the nation that has
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  Speaker 2: allowed more people to thrive, live, and prosper, to go
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  Speaker 2: on and do great things without being constrained by a
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  Speaker 2: government that oppresses people. Compared to socialism and communism, this
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  Speaker 2: is the best that's out there. Good. Students who understand
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  Speaker 2: the history of socialism and communism know that collectivism, centralized
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  Speaker 2: economic planning, political coercion, and suppression of dissent lead to
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  Speaker 2: untold human suffering, like the 65 million deaths in China
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  Speaker 2: and 20 million deaths in what was the former Soviet Union,
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  Speaker 2: to name a couple of oppressive, murderous regimes. Khmer Rouge
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  Speaker 2: isn't mentioned here in the letter, to the best of
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  Speaker 2: my knowledge. But isn't it a sad state of affairs,
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  Speaker 2: as I reflect on education generally, that that concept, the
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  Speaker 2: concept of communism bad, capitalism comparatively better by a long shot,
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  Speaker 2: has not been discussed in the nation's schools in such
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  Speaker 2: a long time that she's got to send a letter
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  Speaker 2: out to educators pointing this fact out? It's 73 degrees
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  Speaker 2: right now, 55K or CD talk stations.
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  Speaker 8: Don't vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Tom. Not on the phone, though.
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  Speaker 4: 513-749-5500.
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  Speaker 2: 800-823-TALK. Or pound 550 on the 823 phone. Outstanding conversation
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  Speaker 2: with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff yesterday, of course, of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: that attempted hijacking of a plane and the heroism that
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was displayed. Lots of swirling questions still about that. Were
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians responsible for that? Probably. Eric Conroy for Congress.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the program yesterday. Congressman Warren Davidson as well.
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  Speaker 2: Outstanding show yesterday. And as always, thanks to Joe Strecker
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  Speaker 2: for being the producer of the program and lining guests up. Ah,
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  Speaker 2: what do we got going on here?
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  Speaker 9: Local stories.
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  Speaker 2: A few juveniles arrested after a fight involving a BB
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  Speaker 2: gun happened in Northern Kentucky Park on Wednesday night near
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  Speaker 2: Dayton Independent High School. Dayton Independent School leaders and police
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  Speaker 2: responded to Gil Lynn Park 8.30 p.m. after five juveniles
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  Speaker 2: were involved in this altercation. Juvenile who does not attend
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  Speaker 2: Dayton schools or live in the community was found in
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  Speaker 2: possession of a BB gun. Three were arrested. Not clear
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  Speaker 2: what charges they're facing. Let us see here. Dayton Independent
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  Speaker 2: Schools Superintendent Rick Wolf sent a letter to the families.
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  Speaker 2: Our district will continue to work closely with law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: and our community partners to help maintain a safe environment
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  Speaker 2: with our students. Approved by legal. We also encourage our
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  Speaker 2: families to speak with their children about making safe choices.
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  Speaker 2: avoiding potentially dangerous situations, and immediately reporting concerns of a
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  Speaker 2: trusted adult. Well, if only parents would do that. Dayton
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  Speaker 2: Police Department said the report would not be available for
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  Speaker 2: several days, so we will keep our popcorn out and
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  Speaker 2: figure that one out. Oh, and I saw this the
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  Speaker 2: other day, and I just, completely unrelated, but out in California,
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  Speaker 2: legislation introduced by Kevin Mullen, Democrat, of course, is seeking
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  Speaker 2: to classify BB guns as as firearms and subject to
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  Speaker 2: the federally licensed firearm dealer background checks. BB guns. Gun bad.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: What do we got here? Former reality TV star guilty
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  Speaker 2: of rape, gross sexual imposition, endangering children. This after a
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  Speaker 2: bench trial in Warren County. Judge Robert Peeler handed down
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a verdict against Tony McAllister, finding him guilty of one
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  Speaker 2: count of rape, three counts of gross sexual imposition, two
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  Speaker 2: counts of endangering children. According to court documents, He was
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  Speaker 2: not guilty on three counts of rape, two counts of
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  Speaker 2: gross sexual imposition, one count of endangering children, one count
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  Speaker 2: of corrupting another with drugs. That after McCulloch's decision to
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  Speaker 2: plead guilty earlier this week to 17 other charges. 13
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  Speaker 2: counts of pandering sexually oriented material involving a minor, four
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  Speaker 2: counts of sexual conduct with an animal. Yep, it's that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: I know. Prosecutors said authorities found evidence McAllister and his
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  Speaker 2: former partner Erica Grove drugged and raped a child. Grove
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  Speaker 2: convicted last week of gross sexual imposition endangering children, according
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to court documents. Thousands of graphic text messages exchanged between
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Grove and McAllister. Prosecutors argue those texts documented the actual abuse.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Defense claimed that the messages were fantasy.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Joe.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, they were just kidding around. Thousands of them. Whatever.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Liam. Sentenced, expected to be sentenced November 10th.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Apparently he was on a reality show. Who's first out
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of the gate here, Joe Strecker? Jeremy, thanks for calling
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: this morning. Very happy Friday to you.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Happy Friday to you, sir. Good morning.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Morning.
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  Speaker 10: Just going back to a conversation you had yesterday with
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: a caller about concealed carry and the businesses downtown that say, oh,
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: don't bring your concealed carry here.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: You know, I always like to think that it's only
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: illegal if you get caught. How many of us speed
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: on the highway?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Nobody. I never go faster than the speed limit, Jeremy.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: But I guarantee you that business is going to be
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: thankful that if something happens in their business and the
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: concealed carry person is concealing like he's supposed to or
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: she is supposed to, that... They're going to be thankful
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: that they had it and didn't follow the sign that
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: they posted because of whatever they feel about concealed carries.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: My very point, Jeremy. Yes, absolutely. That's what I said
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: when I lived in Oak Park, first city in the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: United States, if I recall correctly, that banned handguns. I
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: had one in the house. And my point being, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: will suffer whatever consequence the law wants to hand down
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to me if I'm successfully able to fend off grievous
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: bodily harm or death. whether it's toward my wife, my children,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: or myself. I don't care what the law says. I'm
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: going to defend myself.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: I'm going to protect mine and ours.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yep. That's right. You go in eyes wide open. You
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: can choose to break the law. People do it every
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: single day, and I'm not recommending it. As an attorney,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I don't recommend people break the law. But you have
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: freedom of choice. I didn't see the sign. You may
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: try to argue. I don't know. But yeah, the store
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: owner will be very happy if you save that person's life.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: You'll be very happy if you save your own life
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: or the life of some other citizen who's not prepared
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to deal with the challenge. So I don't understand why
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: any business owner would make that decision for someone else.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: The business owner is not going to be held responsible
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: for someone else's gun use. And I don't know how
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: they can think that that provides a greater measure of
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: safety than someone with a firearm who at least knows
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: how to use it. And I'll make a point about
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: going out to the range. If you own a firearm
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and it's there for your personal protection... Dear God, go
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to the range and learn how to use it. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: say that to people who want to use it for
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: positive reasons, and I view self-defense as a positive reason
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to own one. Not for gangbangers that are going around
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: squeezing off random rounds. Those are the people who I
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: never want to see at a range, and maybe that's why,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: in spite of all the gunfire that's recorded and that
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: people know about in downtown Cincinnati, the homicide rate is
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: at the lowest level it's been in 20 years because
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: they don't know how to hit the target they're shooting.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: They hold their guns sideways or something. Bottom line is,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Keep them out of the range, you go to the range,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and everyone's going to be better for it. 535 right now, 55Kerson. Thanks, Jeremy.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: On a Friday tear. I got Joyce and I got
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Bobby on the line. Folks, hang on a second. Got
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: to take a break. Be right back.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: 55KR.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Talk station.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Can you play John the Fisherman?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's Friday. We do that at this time. 540,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: specifically 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. 950 on AT & T phones. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: do have several callers online. Going to get to those.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I do have two stack of stupid stories on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: heels of my comments there about guns. Philadelphia. I think
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it was the responsible use of a gun, assuming she
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: didn't know who she shot. Philadelphia woman shot and killed
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: an intruder. Happened at 5 o'clock in the morning on
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: a Wednesday. Broke into her home. Right through her apartment window.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: 5 o'clock in the morning. She heard the sound of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a breaking glass, got her attention, armed herself, and shot
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the intruder in the head. He died at the scene.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: According to the police department, it appears the individual broke
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the window, was able to reach in and open the door,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and then entered the woman's apartment, and that's when the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: shot or shots were fired. He was masked. It turned
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: out it was her ex-boyfriend. That's why it's in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: stack as stupid. ex-boyfriend. She's not your girlfriend anymore, you idiot.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: What are you doing breaking into her house? And then
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the spectrum, young woman apparently
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: lost her mind in an Indianapolis children's store, pulled out
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: a firearm and pointed it at workers because they said
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: her toddler could not play inside. Once upon a child,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Tamiya Statton, who's 21, trying to sell her children's clothes there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It's a, you know, sort of, you sell your own
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: old stuff there. Kid was running around in a small
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: toy car. The workers said to mom that the kids
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: can't play inside. It violates the store policy. This isn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: a playground. It's a clothing store. So she pulled out
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a gun. There you go. Don't, don't, don't do that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Let's see what Joyce's first. Joyce, thanks for holding on
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the phone. Welcome to the program.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, Brian.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: How you doing?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Doing well. I hope you can say the same.
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: Oh, I'm doing all right. So my husband and I
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: were talking about Amy Acton refusing to debate Vivek, which
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: to me right off the bat is a disqualifier.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 25:14
  Speaker 11: And I was listening to Christopher when he had his
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: event the other day. And, you know, I didn't agree
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: with his reasoning. I think that her people know she's
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: too stupid to debate. So they know that she cannot
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: hold her own against me.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Joyce, of course, they just can't say that part out loud.
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm sorry.
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: Go ahead.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm just laughing. We all know she's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a coward and she's not capable of debating Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: What is she going to possibly say in response to him?
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, so George.
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: And I, my husband and I, we were we were talking.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: I don't know if you remember.
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: We met at listener lunch. He should invite as many
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: Democrats in this area to the to a town hall.
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: So she won't get up and debate him. So fill
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: the audience with a bunch of Democrats that hate him
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: and have them fire off questions to him. So they're
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: going to say everything that he wants to say, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: and he.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: Can he can answer the people in the in the
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: town hall.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: But Vivek is surrounded by media and press and throngs
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of people wherever he goes. He does not limit any
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: audience to any particular political stripe. And it doesn't prevent Democrats, left-wingers, socialists, communists,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: or anybody else from asking him questions. I mean, that
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: kind of concept is literally going on all the time, Joyce.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: He puts himself out in front of everybody. I mean,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: you don't need to say, hey, Democrats, show up and
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: ask Vivek Ramaswamy questions. You just say, hey, out loud,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswamy is going to be here this weekend speaking
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: at an event, and everybody can show up. Do you
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: think Democrats really, really want to ask him those questions
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: and get the answer that Vivek would give to them, Joyce?
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: No.
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: I don't know, because they dislike it. I think they
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: think they're smart enough to catch him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: That's where they're wrong. No, I think they may give
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the impression. That may be the impression they give. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I think if you really could get into their minds,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: they know damn well that they could never go in
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: front of Vivek Ramaswamy and present some meme-inspired challenge to
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: him or some accusation they've read over and over again
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: in their little left-wing echo chamber. I think they'll be
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: reluctant to do it because they're going to get an
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: answer that will burst the bubble of what's being presented
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in the meme. They don't want the truth out there,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't either.
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: And the media, well, they never cover him fairly ever anyway.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: Of course.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We all know we're plagued with left-wing media or media
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that just turns a blind eye to things that are
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: really important to, well, the greater Cincinnati area and the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: tri-state issues. I just don't think anybody wants to, Joyce,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and most notably Amy Acton doesn't want to, clearly. She
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: is expressing or showing a great level of cowardice Yeah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: her folks, her staff knows that she's not capable. Much
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: in the same way I suggest the Democrats know that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: they could not handle asking Vivek those questions and getting
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the response that they don't want to hear. In other words,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the truth. 545 right now, 55 KRC station. 550. 55
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: KRC talk station. And go over to the phones.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: 513-729-5500.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: 800-823-TALK. 550 on AT & T phones. Start with Tony. Tony,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: welcome to the program. Happy Friday to you. Thanks for calling.
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: Hey, good morning. I just want to let you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: I come from the same Schlitowitz bloodline that Joe comes from.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: And I just lost my dad.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. I'm sorry.
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: But 98 years old.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: I just want to let you guys know that his
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: nuggets of wisdom. I guess the first one is you
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: do not want to know a world without the United
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: States in it. Because, you know, this this thing that
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: these people are voting for or they think is a
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: good idea. My dad has just recently been telling me
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: they have no idea what they're doing to themselves. So
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: the last— I mean, I got to spend some great quality
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: time with him. His main concern at the end of
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: his life was what happened to those ethnic Germans after
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: the war in Central Europe. The day my father told
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: me about my great-grandmother and how she got stuck behind
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: the Iron Curtain— With no family.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, my God.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: That was the day I told myself I have nothing
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: to complain about ever because it would only dishonor her.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: So now that I lost my father, it's interesting. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: people say if there's anything you need, let me know.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: I got raised by people who taught me that those
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: things that I need, they were on me. The roof
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: over my head, the food in my refrigerator, the bed
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: that I sleep in, that's not given to you by anybody.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: That's your responsibility. You know, those things that you want,
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: and then you work hard beyond your needs so that
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: maybe you can have things that you want. But, boy,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: don't take this lightly. I mean, I tried to do
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: this a little while ago, but I'm doing pretty good.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: I just wanted to pass that on because, I mean,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: the brutality of what could be coming and all, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: don't want to know that. This life we have is
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: not normal and do not take it for granted because
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: this could end just like them. My dad always said,
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: We got out early enough, and it was only a
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: matter of a month.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Or two if you were lucky.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: If you were lucky.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: But those who got out with the clothes on their back,
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: and that was all. That was it. My dad said
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: we were the lucky ones. Those that got stuck behind
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: the Iron Curtain, he was more concerned about them. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: then also, they got here. They prospered. But there was
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: absolutely nothing to do. My father could not send his
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: grandmother a care package or some money to make her
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: life better. And I think that bothered him more than anything.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I imagine.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: So I just wanted to pass that on.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You're a good man for passing along. That is a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: lesson you are lucky to have learned. We grew up, obviously,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: in very different circumstances, but The same message I got
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: from my parents growing up. That's why I've regularly stated
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: along those lines, you know, you have an obligation to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: society to put the roof over your head, to clothe
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: yourself and feed yourself. Minimalist obligation. That is your responsibility.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Anything that goes along extra from that is just a
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: bounty for everyone. And this is the one country where
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you have the best possible opportunity to, well, to meet
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: your mandatory minimum goals, but do so much more. And
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: look at the people who never had that opportunity. What
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a valuable lesson. Obviously, the emotion is heavy in your voice,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and I certainly understand. But you were a lucky man
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: for having known him. We're lucky to have had him
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: for 98 years. And I sure hope that he wasn't
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: dealing with, well, serious struggles toward the end there, as
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: my father was. It's a heartbreaking reality. But, boy, you
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: came out a better person for having had him in
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: your life. Thank you very much for passing that along, sir.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And rest his soul. Prayers and thoughts for you and
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: your family. Bobby, welcome to the show. Happy Friday to you, sir.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: Well, happy Friday, my friend. Faith, flag, family, and you
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: know the rest.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Talking about firearms early in the program, Bobby.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: What's on your mind today?
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: We can talk about firearms. We can talk about the
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: fuel issue.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you do either way. You've got a minute to
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: do it, Bobby.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: The fuel issue. People don't realize in the state of Ohio,
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Ashland Oil, now Marathon, always referred to it as the
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: dumping ground. The dumping ground is because they do not
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: check octane levels and they do not check for contaminants
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: in the state of Ohio. It's been that way for
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: a long time. I could tell you why, but Ohio
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: is the only state in the nation, except for Nebraska,
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: that does not check their octane levels or the contaminants
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: in the fuel.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Well, where is our gasoline coming from? Is it manufactured
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: here in the state of Ohio or are we receiving
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: it from elsewhere?
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Receive it from Ashland Oil. It's refined over at Ashland,
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: up in Minneapolis, and in.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Canton, Ohio.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Are other people, Bobby, are other states buying that gasoline
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that's refined there?
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, then they are doing it. Somebody out there
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is testing. If we're the only state that doesn't, that
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: means all the other ones are. And I suppose word
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: might have gotten out if the octane levels are, well,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: you're being lied to about them. As you said that,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, I pay premium prices for premium gas
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: in order to get the premium octane level my car
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: apparently requires. I got to trust them with what they're doing,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and the fact that the gasoline is going out and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: far and beyond the Ohio borders suggests to me that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: at least somebody's checking the level. Not familiar with the issue, Bobby,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: but again, it's going out into the world. We'll just
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: have to rely on that, and you can ask yourself
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: why we wouldn't check it here. Thank you, Bobby. Have
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: a wonderful weekend. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. You can call. We've got
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: plenty to talk about. Maybe some of the stupid stories
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we can carry over to the 6 o'clock hour, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: don't go away. Tech Friday with Dave Hatter coming up
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: at 6.30. It's been going on for a long time.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: It's 606 at 55 KRCD Talk Station. It is Friday.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I know stating the obvious, I dearly love a Friday.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Starting with somebody in the hallway, you doing anything this weekend? No,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I don't have any plans. Oh, that's great, isn't it? Yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: some of the best weekends start with I don't have
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: anything to do. So even if really just kind of
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: lay around and relax and enjoy company of my wife,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that would be A-OK. But the promise of the weekend
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: is why I'm always happy on a Friday. Brian Thomas
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: right here, Joe Strecker, where he belongs in the executive
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: producer booth. Phone call, phone calls, always welcome. I got
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Jeff on the line. You can call too, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Real quick here, Jeff, hold on. Tech Friday coming up
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: with Dave Hatter. Apparently an iPhone's a good thing to have.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: There's some settings that allow you to get rid of
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: spam callers. Yay. Don Toltzman, our German expert, joins the
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: program at 730 to talk about his latest two books.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Then get fired up for 805 Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: this weekend. They will be in studio, so we're going
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to have some Gemütlichkeit, little advanced Gemütlichkeit as we approach
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest. Jack Windsor from the Hound Press
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Network still riding Ismail Mohamed on that problem. Got a
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: little problem with his house and some real estate. What's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: going on with the Garver Farms in Butler County? Don't know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That's why we have Jack, and then we'll get the
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: latest polling data. Maybe Jack's got some polls we can
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: hang our hat on. Anyway, let's see what Jeff's got
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: before we move on. Jeff, thanks for calling this morning,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and happy Friday to you.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Right back at you, old bud. I got good news
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: for you. Hopefully this will cheer you and your listeners up.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Keeneland is open today.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: No kidding.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Keeneland's open today, and the card today and tomorrow
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: is smoking hot.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: If you're a horse guy. If you're a horse, I
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: was just going to say what makes you say that.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: There's grade one races. There's races that will get you
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: into the Breeders' Cup. It's like everything else. Follow the money.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: There's nothing really romantic about thoroughbred horse racing. It's a business.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: It is certainly a business and a really expensive one
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: for everything I've heard, Jeff.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I have a good friend that's been successful beyond most
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: people's imagination. Look me in the eye and say, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: got to get out of this business. I can't compete
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: with the big boys. I'm thinking to myself, hey, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: know what? I'm thank God for 50 cent trifectas.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: There you go. Oh, you at least get to join.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: They're the ones that have to spend all the money
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: training the horses, paying trainers, paying for the stalls and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the food and the maintenance and the veterinary bills and
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: travel and got to go all over the place with
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: those horses. Outrageously expensive. And for every, I guess, successful
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: horse owner, there are thousands probably of others who are
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: just in the hole as a consequence.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: It's like finding the pin in the haystack. Yeah. Okay?
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: It's like finding the pin in the haystack. But I
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: tell you what, when you get to Keeneland, it's different.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: It's so much different now than... It used to be
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: you could just go down there, walk around and stuff.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Now people go there to be seen, especially on this weekend.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: There's going to be 5,000 little college girls down there
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: looking for somebody that's rich.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Well, finally, you put something there that we can all
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: hang our hat on, at least from my perspective, Jeff. Yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I don't really care so much about horse racing, but
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's compelling what you just said right there, Paulette. Don't worry,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not going.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, buddy. When you get to my
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: age and stuff, I can't get down there anymore anyway.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: But you know you're getting old when you're seeing all
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: these little UK kids in their dresses, and you have
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: gone from the point of, well, that's a pretty little
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: girl to, get out of my way, okay? I'm trying
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: to spend... $ 3 on this horse race. This is big
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: business here, kiddo.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You're obviously older than I am, Jeff. I hope to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: never reach that day where I don't care anymore. This
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is a beautiful thing about getting older, Jeff, from my perspective. Yes,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I'll say this out loud, and I've said it in
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: front of my wife, and this is something my father
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: conveyed to me. The older you get, the bigger your
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: strike zone. Process that. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: T phones. Something important you want to talk about?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Joe, can I do a stack of stupid stories that
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't do any in the last hour? Do you
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: want me to get on to something more important? Well,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: it's Friday. Okay, I got a green light from Joe.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Those who are just tuning in and never listen to
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the 5 o'clock hour on Fridays, this is the kind
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: of thing we do at 540 and after if phone
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: calls don't come in here on the morning show. Like
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: this guy. Florida.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: As is tradition.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Amen. Lee County deputies arrested a 58-year-old guy earlier this week.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Got him in a Love's travel shop. right off I-75
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: in North Fort Myers. He's accused of recording people in
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the men's bathroom. Lee County Sheriff's Office deputies found dozens
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of videos on David Floyd's phone showing him naked sitting
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: inside a restroom stall. According to the police, videos showed
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Floyd holding his phone underneath and over the stall portion
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: recording individuals in the neighboring stall.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: What?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it gets a little bit worse here. We
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: go off the rails. Several other videos found on his
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: phone depicting similar content. According to the sheriff's office, they
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: found methamphetamine, sex toys, and a mask with holes cut
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: into it, and a glass pipe in Floyd's possession. Interesting
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: assortment of things to take into a men's restroom stall,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: isn't it, Joe? Lord arrested facing charges of digital voyeurism,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: possession of a controlled substance, and tampering with evidence. Investigators
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: say the dozens of videos showed Floyd, and go ahead,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: use your imagination, what do you think this means? Showed
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Floyd appeared to be getting sexual gratification from recording others.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: What would lead them to that conclusion?
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: There's no flag for us.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: Hey, man, Joe.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Sheriff's office showed Floyd has been arrested 10 times since
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: 1995 with charges including DUI and drug-related offenses. What else
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: we got? Carson City, Nevada, 40-year-old Carson City man arrested
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: at 8 p.m. Deputies dispatched to an adult store on
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Airport Road after receiving eight calls about a completely naked
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: man walking down the road. They got there. They made
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: contact with a man who was wrapped in a towel.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Speaking with Carson City Fire Department, deputies advised that the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: towel had been provided by employees of the store. Man
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: told deputies, Joe, would you borrow a towel from an
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: adult store? Man told deputies he'd walked in there from
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: his residence and couldn't remember much. His words, deputies stated
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: that he appeared to be under the influence. Deputies asked
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: him if he'd taken anything. He told them he had, quote,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: smoked meth earlier today, but couldn't remember anything else. Not shocking.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Taken into custody for disorderly conduct and taken to the
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Carson City Jail. Oh, look, must be Friday. Man accused
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: of breaking into University of Oklahoma students' apartment while naked
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: in court earlier this week. According to Reagan Wilson, who
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: was a resident of the Callaway House Apartments, if you
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: look at the video, he tries this door, takes two
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: steps to us, makes eye contact with the camera, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: then goes to the next room, keeps eye contact with
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the camera. When he goes to the next room, apparently
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: he's been doing this up and down the hallways. Police
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: said the man walked into three different units at the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Callaway House apartment. Suspect caught on camera because of similar
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: incidents a week before. Lily Smith, the resident, we installed
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the camera a week ago. Yes, that's what happens. Police
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: have not yet confirmed whether the break-ins are related because
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: they've had other break-ins. One of the residents whose apartment
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: was broken into declined to comment on camera because of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: safety concerns she had, but they had no idea that
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: he had gone into their apartment. They woke up two
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: police officers inside their home. Wow. Assuming these people are adults,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: probably could own a firearm. And a guy like that
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: breaking into somebody's residence stands a good risk of getting shot.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We go to Evansville, Indiana. Evansville man charged with public nudity.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Woman found him standing naked outside of her house. According
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: to the affidavit, 2 o'clock in the morning Wednesday, officers
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: showed up at the Harding Avenue home after a woman
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: reported this naked guy was standing outside of her house.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Woman told officers she was sitting on her porch, and
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: she started hearing noises. She thought she heard an animal
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: underneath her porch, but a man with his pants around
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: his ankles popped up out of nowhere. Woman told officers.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: What?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Woman told officers he asked for a cigarette before walking away.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Does that cigarette timing suggest something to Joe since he
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: was naked and had pants around his ankles? Oh, it's Friday.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Officers found him at the intersection of Haven Drive and Enloe.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Officers identified him as 31-year-old Elijah Akpan. They suspected he
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: was drunk, but upon being administered a breathalyzer test, came
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: up with triple zeros. Officer asked whether he had any narcotics.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: He told him he didn't use drugs. Officers say when
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: they spoke with him, he slurred words, had his shirt
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: halfway off, and rolled around in the grass. They took
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: him into custody. A test revealed he had, you want
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: to guess? Methamphetamine. Joe Strecker, you win the prize this morning.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Gold Star coming your way. He's held in the Vandenberg
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: County Jail, charged with public nudity and public intoxication. 616,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: 55KRC Detox Station. Maybe you can reach me. Detox Station. 621,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: 55KRC Detox Station. Tech Friday with Dave Hedder coming up
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: in the next segment. Always look forward to that, David.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: And interesting connection of the dots here this morning.
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Now, what have I been saying forever? The climate alarmists
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: can't point to nuclear reactors and be angry over them.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: They don't produce any carbon dioxide. They don't produce any
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: pollutants except for the nuclear waste in modern small modular reactors.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Virtually no waste, if any, at all. It is the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: ultimate answer to our power demand needs. Along comes AI. Massive,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: massive power demand on a grid that can barely handle it. Obviously,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: people are upset about the price, and they're worried about
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: where we're going to get our energy. Enter the small
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: modular reactor. And an interesting bipartisan Senate deal. First, let's
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: start with the Volar Atomics. That's a company. It's a
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: nuclear startup company that makes small modular reactors. They applied
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: to the Bureau of Land Management for a project they
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: call Project Beehive. 9,500 acres of underscore federal land close
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to Price, Utah. The plan says 456 small modular reactors.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Data Center Campus Nuclear Fuel Fabrication Plant on-site waste storage.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: This was just broke, an NPR broke this story earlier
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: in the week. The reactors would produce roughly 9.6 gigawatts
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: of electricity. Now that may mean nothing to you. When
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I first read it, it means nothing to me, but
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the entire state of Utah averages about 4 gigawatts of
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: power demand, the entire state. So one private company with
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a private campus now on public land, there's a reason
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: for that, would generate more than double the power the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: state it sits in. Non-nuclear construction apparently could begin by
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the end of this year. The first reactors, according to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the plan, online 2028. Now, it's pointed out that this
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: company has never operated a commercial reactor. The test unit
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: did produce its first electricity earlier this year, and there's
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other companies manufacturing these prototype small
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: modular reactors. So it's a slew of potential competition. But
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: They needed to get the reactor out of California to
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: this Utah facility. What did it do? It flew it
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: on a United States Air Force C-17. Enter the government
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: working with this company. Utah and four other states have
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: sued the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to carve out faster licensing
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: paths for this type of project. The White House last
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: year signed four executive orders. Ordering the Nuclear Regulatory Commission,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: to speed up approvals and directing the government to quadruple U.S.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: nuclear energy capacity by 2050. Earlier this week, before this
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: beehive filing surfaced, President Trump all gathered with the heads
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: of the AI industry, and what did Donald Trump say?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Whoever wins AI wins. This is an important battle we're
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: fighting here. And it's true. Now, who wants to stand
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in the way of artificial intelligence? Bernie Sanders. He wants
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to lay down drop his pants to the Chinese Communist
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Party and lose the race, maybe intentionally. Maybe. But this
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: satisfies all of our power needs. If we do it,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: we're the only country in the world that really could
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: achieve this unbelievable goal, and the only country in the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: world that is standing in the way from it is
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: ourselves with our regulatory structure. Move out of the way,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: open the federal lands, allow this kind of project to
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: move forward with federal approval, so you don't have to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: worry about acquiring private land to get it done, and
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: no NIMBY lawsuits available when you have federal lands on this.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Problem may be solved.
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: Hmm.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: But the government can work, and the overall challenge we
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: got here is the fuel. So we barely produce any
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: of the uranium that's needed to be enriched to power
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: these small modular reactors. We imported a bulk of that
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: from Russia, supplied a large share of this uranium until
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Congress banned the imports from Russia. Domestic enrichment capacity, just
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: a mere fraction of what this size program needs by
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: all accounts. So it's suggested that the skids need to
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: be greased. Government needs to get involved in the enrichment
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: so we have enough fuel to satisfy our demands. And
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: that can be accomplished as well. And here's the other
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: corollary on this. Connect the dots. Is this related? bipartisan
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Senate deal reached Wednesday of this week, reform laws permitting
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: large energy and infrastructure projects. It's called the Bipartisan American
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Affordability and Jobs Act. It would accelerate federal approvals for
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: projects like data centers, wind and solar farms, I don't
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: know why that's in there, but it does, gas pipelines,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: and require environmental reviews and have quicker deadlines. They must
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: complete major reviews within one or two years, so speeding
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: up the regulatory process and approving these things. Also, limiting
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: court challenges, making it harder to overturn permits that have
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: already been issued. This is bipartisan support. This will allow
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: something like this Project Beehive to move forward. They're getting
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: out of the way. That's good. Bipartisan. So it seems
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: that the majority, at least if this Senate bill is
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: ultimately signed into law down the road, they promise they're
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: going to pass this thing when they get back from
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the recess. But maybe they've woken up to the reality
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: that we do need to win. In order to win
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: this AI race, because the Chinese are going to do
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: it if we don't, we need more power. There's no
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: reason to stand in the way of this type of
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: project getting done or anybody else for having a small
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: modular reactor because it seems to satisfy the concerns, the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: demand challenges that we have to overcome today. and this
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: whole nonsense that we need to keep carbon dioxide out
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: of the world. So if you believe that crap, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: you can, welcome to the solution. Abundant power and no
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: climate change that goes along with it. Hmm, maybe they've
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: woken up. Now just remember, going back to the idea
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that the socialists of this world hate the United States' success,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: this will guarantee massive more success, allow us to win
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the AI race, and maintain the high status that we
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: have maintained for how long? Versus the rest of the world,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: our economic might and achievement? Yeah. 6.20, the talk station.
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• 51:11
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• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Happy to be here. Thank you. And you came to
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: peddle iPhones today, I guess.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: Not necessarily.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Well, to speak my curiosity, I don't have an iPhone,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: but it makes me feel like I want one because
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I guess you can, well, make a setting to stop spam.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: You might be able to do this on an Android.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I haven't had an Android for a long time because
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: they come from Google. So I don't use them. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: generally speaking, Brian, Apple tends to be a lot more
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: privacy friendly than most of these other tech companies. But
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: all of that said, So regardless of what type of
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: phone you have, there's really three things you can do.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: First off, I suggest people add themselves to the do
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: not call registry. Now, that's not going to stop bad guys.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: But it will stop legitimate companies, right? Go to the
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: FTC's do not call registry. Put your phone number on it.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: That will stop legitimate sales calls, right? Legitimate companies will
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: adhere to that. Illegitimate companies will not. If you go
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: to the FTC's website, by the way, they've got a
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: lot of good resources out there on this, and they
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: focus in on three things to try to stop the
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: bad guys, the bad spam, the people that aren't going
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: to adhere to the don't call registry. First thing you
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: can do is start with your cellular carrier. All the
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: big players all have various things you can do. Now,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: they call them different things. They work a little differently.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Some are free. Some you might have to pay for.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: But I have an Apple phone on Verizon, so I
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: can go to Verizon and I can see what options
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I have to try to get Verizon to stop these
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: kinds of spam calls and texts. And I'll come back
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to why this is all happening. But start with your
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: carrier and then on your phone, see what sort of
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: options you might have on the phone itself to try
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: to stop this. So Apple does provide some pretty good capabilities.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I've been using this for a long time.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: Is it foolproof?
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: No.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: But it does, at least for me, significantly reduce the
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: amount of spammy stuff that I get. On an Apple phone,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: go into the settings, go to apps, go to phone, right? Settings, apps, phone.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: And then from there, you hit the spam switch, turn
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: that on, and then you have some options about, well,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: what do you want to do? And basically, you can
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: say screen unknown callers. And then there are three options.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Don't ever screen unknown callers, which is by generally the
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: default setting and you don't want that. Ask for a
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: reason for calling. So it will literally tell your caller, hey,
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: why are you calling this person? They have to essentially
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: leave a message or just silence those calls and they
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: just go off into oblivion. It'll show up in your
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: recent calls list. Now, if you turn on silence and
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: that's how I have mine, you do have to check
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: that occasionally because you'll get legitimate calls from people that
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: aren't in your contacts list and you'll never know if
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: you don't check it. And then the third thing you
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: could do, Brian, is buy an app. There are apps
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: out there like RoboKiller. These things cost money. So this
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: is the typical defense in depth I talk about with
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: you all the time. One layer is the carrier. One
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: layer is whatever the phone itself may or may not
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: be capable of. And then the third layer would be
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: you buying an app at your own expense, possibly a
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: free app. But remember, if it's free, you're paying with money,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: not data, that altogether will try to reduce the amount
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: of spam. And the reason this happens is because the
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: phone system is old. And as a result, there's no
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: way to authenticate a phone number. It is trivially easy.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Any one of your listeners within 10 minutes can go
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: find a website that will allow them to type in
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: a phone number and make a call from that number
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: or send a text from that number. You cannot. You
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: cannot look at the phone number on your screen and
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: know that it's legitimate. And of course, the bad guys
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: will make calls that appear to be coming from local
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: area codes. So my general advice is never answer a
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: call from anyone from any number that you don't recognize.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: And if you have an Apple phone, turn these settings on.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Even if you don't have an Apple phone, see what
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: you can do on an Android, check with your carrier,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: consider an app like RoboKiller, and you can significantly reduce
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: the amount of this garbage.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: And you can reduce the amount of political ads in
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: your mailbox by just going out and voting, because once
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: you vote, they stop targeting you. So there's another fun
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: fact to get people to get out to vote beginning
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Dave Hatter, don't go away. We've got more
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to talk about, including this huge drive station. It's 640-65-KRCD
• 55:28
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• 55:32
  Speaker 2: out with all your business needs and, of course, sponsoring
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: the segment, Dave Hatter does. And, you know, while you
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: were talking, the last thing I went over to the
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Do Not Call Registry, I completed the whole process in
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: less than a minute, Dave. It's really simple to do.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I thought I had already put my phone on that registry,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: so I don't know if it'll tell you you've already
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: registered if you try to do it again, but either
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: my recollection was failed or you can just go ahead
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: and try again if you think you're not on there.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: It's easy to do.
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: It is easy to do.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: It takes a few seconds, as you see. And again,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: there are some good tips for this sort of thing
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: from the FTC at their website.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Excellent. Moving on, we heard about this before. I think
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: you brought up one of the prior interest IT segments here,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: that huge driver's license data breach. All of the information
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and high-res photographs were on this database, in spite of
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: the fact I don't think they were supposed to be,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: but those were all stolen, 153 million of them. Dave,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: what does this mean for us?
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is bad.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: So one of the reasons we ran out of time
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: in the last segment that you get all these spam
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: calls and you get all the spam emails and the
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: constant barrage of cybercrime is because your data is everywhere now.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks to our extremely interconnected world, these so-called smart devices
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: that everyone has that's sucking up all kinds of information,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: your data is everywhere, Brian. So it makes it easy
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: for bad guys to know how to reach you, to
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: send you these spam calls and texts and emails and
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: so forth. But this is much worse than just the standard, oh, hey,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: you know, they've got my email address. And this is
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: one of the reasons why you may recall, I'm pretty
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: sure we talked about this around two years ago. It
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: came out that various large chains were now wanting to
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: scan your driver's license to buy liquor, right?
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Kroger was doing that. They quit doing it because people
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: were all pissed off about it, Dave.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I told people at the time, there is no
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: way I'm going to let some store scan my driver's
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: license to buy a beer or something. I'll go to
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: a different place because I don't know what's happening with
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: that data once it goes through that scanner. First off,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: anyone can look at my ID and look at me
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: and see that clearly I'm old enough to buy alcohol.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: there's literally no legitimate reason, in my opinion, to need
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: to scan your driver's license. And your driver's license contains
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: very sensitive information. You can't just get a new driver's license.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can get a new driver's license, but
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: it's not like you just get one online. You've got
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: to go through a whole process. There's a number on there.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: That number's tied to things. They get your height. They
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: get your weight. They get your eye color. They get
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: other sensitive information that can't just be easily replaced. Like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I can't get a new height. You can't get a
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: new eye color.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I keep waiting. I keep waiting to grow an extra
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: couple inches so I can be six feet tall.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I can't get a new face.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I wish I could.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I'd order, you know, or Mel Gibson today.
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I can't I can't do that. So when when you're
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: handing over your driver's license willy nilly. Now, I get
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: there are some instances where you must you're legally required
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: to provide identity. I get that. OK, but for purchasing
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: something in a store, absolutely insane. This article points out,
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, this was originally broken by Krebs on Security,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: which is a well-known website for this thing. He found
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: himself in this breach and believes that it was him
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: renting a car. I think he said Hertz. I don't
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: remember for sure. And it's not in this particular story
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: we're talking about today. And again, I'll post these links.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: But we built a society where your data is being
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: collected at all the time, all the time. Your identity
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: is needed for things that, in my opinion, aren't. aren't
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: really necessary. And as a result, now it's becoming a vast.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: and valuable target for the bad guys. Because if I
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: can steal this information, I can use it to impersonate
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: you to conduct fraud in your name, or maybe even worse,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: I can use it to convince you that I am
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: some legitimate authority, some legitimate place you've done business with,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: and fool you into allowing me to hack you, steal
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: your money or whatever, because I have information it seems
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: that only the legitimate agency would have. So in this case,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: it's 153 million driver's licenses. I know the FBI is
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: looking into this. The finger so far has been pointed
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: at ID scan, a third party verification service. So you
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: run your driver's license through that scanner. The data gets
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: sent to them and they say, yeah, this is that
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: legitimate person. And again, going back to my concern about
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: letting someone just scan my driver's license, I don't know.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: How long they store that, I don't know where it goes.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know what they do with it. I don't
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: know what their terms of service say. So yeah, right
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: off the bat, I said, there is no way I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: will do this. Again, if I'm required by law to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: do it, so be it. But I'm not, and I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: encourage every one of your listeners, do not give your
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: driver's license to just some random person to scan or
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: passport or anything like that. Because once it's out there,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: and now 153 million are, they say roughly 63%. of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: every single driver's license in the United States, it's out there.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: What are you going to do?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Dave, I have a quick question for you. Got to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: know this. Is there a database that we can scan
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to find out whether ours is part of this breach?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: As far as I know, I have not been able
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: to find one yet. I looked into that and so
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: far I have not seen that. That would be very helpful.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Kind of like the Have I Been Pwned service by
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Troy Hunt, where you can see if you're Using your
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: email address, you can see if your information is on
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: the dark web. If and when I find this, I'll
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: definitely let you know. We can talk about it here
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: again because it would be helpful to know. The last
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: point for our time, Brian, because of this, and because
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: as far as I know, there currently is no way
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: to know if your driver's license is in there. Every
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: single one listening to us today should go, okay, I'm
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: not ever going to hand my driver's license out again
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: unless I'm required to by law. And then secondarily, up
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: your skepticism. Be aware that this sort of data is everywhere.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: And if your driver's license is out there, you know,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: you could get a call from someone claiming to be
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: the Hamilton County Sheriff or the Kenton County Sheriff or
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: whatever and claiming, you know, you've done something. They've got
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: this information. They're reading it off to you. They've gone
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: to the Hamilton County Sheriff's website and looked up Deputy
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: Doakes and they claim to be Deputy Doakes and they say,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: go to this page. I'm this person. These people are
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: smart and devious, and the more information that's out there,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: the easier it is for them to fool you. You
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: need to be skeptical.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: Trust nothing.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Hang up on a call like that. If you call
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office directly, more skepticism, less Internet
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: of Things devices, less putting your data out there, Brian.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Or just ignore them outright and don't follow up because
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: they're not going to come to arrest you. And if
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: they do, that means they've got probable cause and a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: reason to do so, and then you would probably know
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: it if you'd done something wrong. Anyway. Talk Station. 651,
• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: more segment here. And, of course, interestit.com is where you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: find Dave and the crew for your business needs. And
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: linkedin.com to find Dave Hatter and the resources he talks about,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: like this one. We had a recent water utility attack,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: but apparently they've learned something from it. Have I got
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: that right, Dave?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: The good news, Brian, is there are tons of resources
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: out there available for businesses, utilities, small local governments. to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: harden their defenses and become more resilient. I'll come back
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: to that in a minute. You mentioned the water attack. So,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: you know, we saw a few months ago and, you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: I've been warning about this forever, Brian, critical infrastructure.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Can't live long without water. Electricity makes water possible. The
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: telecom system, now it was interconnected, everything. You know, we
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: have got to focus and I share information.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: About this on all.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: I've talked about this till I'm.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: Blue in the face.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: It is extremely urgent that we focus on addressing our
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: critical infrastructure. And now we're seeing the real world impacts.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Over 100 water plants in 12 states were recently attacked.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: It's been linked to the Iranians. Who knows for sure,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: because if you're good, you're going to make it look
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: like someone else did it. But they were able to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: get into many of these places. One of them was
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: shut down for a period of time. It's super critical
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: that across the 16 critical infrastructure sectors that the FBI
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: has identified that we focus on these things. So the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Center for Internet Security, Think of it like a chamber
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: of commerce for cybersecurity nerds like me. We pay to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: belong to this thing to be able to use their
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: resources commercially. They have incredible resources. The state of Ohio
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: last year, we talked about this, passed a law. Again,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: kudos to Ohio for tending to lead in this space.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: Ohio revised Code 9.64 that, amongst other things, requires any
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: political subdivision, any taxing authority in Ohio to have a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: cybersecurity program. And they actually reference the Center for Internet
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Security Critical Controls, one of the things CIS provides, as
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: a baseline, a framework for you to build your cybersecurity
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: program around. And other states have done this as well.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: So my point is Center for Internet Security is a well-known,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: well-respected organization. It's been around for decades. And even states
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: like Ohio recognize the quality of the information they're putting
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: out there, the tools and so forth. So CIS recently
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: put out this article. And one of the things we
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: do for businesses, Brian, is we can come in and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: I usually lead these myself. We'll do a security assessment
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: of your organization based on the Center for Internet Security Framework.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: So this isn't Dave Hatter's opinion. This isn't InTrust's opinion.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: This isn't Microsoft's opinion. This is a third-party organization with
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: thousands of people like me involved in it who have
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: come up with these guidelines, frameworks, and so forth.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: It's like a medical standard of care.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, or it's like a financial audit using– Like if
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: you're a city, you get audited, right? So, again, this
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: is something we can do for businesses. There are plenty
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: of other people that can do this. But I encourage
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: anyone that owns a business, is an executive in a business,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: you should be looking at some kind of security assessment
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: on a regular basis, especially because AI is accelerating the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: attacks and making it easier for less sophisticated criminals to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: pull these things off. And a framework like the Center
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: for Internet Security Critical Controls.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Is the way to go.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan. So they came out and said, okay,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: in light of these recent attacks, five things that utilities
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: in particular in the wastewater and water treatment space should
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: be doing. But this is good advice for any organization.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Any organization should be doing these five things. And CIS
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: has always focused on visibility. How can you protect something
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: if you don't know you have it? How can you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: understand the risk something creates if you don't know you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: have it? You've got to have an inventory, hardware, software, users, data.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: You've got to have an inventory of this stuff. That's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: the first point they make in here. And it's hammered
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: throughout this control framework I just mentioned. They mentioned connectivity
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: creates opportunity and risk. Yeah, it's great that now everything
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: is connected to the internet and you can get to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: it remotely and work from home and all this stuff.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: But if you can get to it from the internet,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: so can the bad guys. 10 years ago, the controllers
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: that controlled the water, probably weren't accessible to the internet. Most,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: like me, would argue they still shouldn't be. But anything
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: that is visible to the outside world is at risk
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: to your organization. They mentioned resilience. Yeah, you have to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: defend against these kinds of attacks, and there are ways
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: to do it. But we've crossed the Rubicon where now
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: you can just assume if you have a firewall, you're good.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: They're coming at you in every angle. You've got to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: focus on resilience. What happens when the system does go
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: down for whatever reason? Tornado, earthquake, doesn't have to be
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: a cyber attack. These are critical systems that we rely
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: on and in some cases create an existential threat when
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: they go down. They mentioned third-party risk. Everything's connected to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: the internet now, connected to the cloud, third-party vendors. Third-party
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: risk is a huge problem in cybersecurity now. And then
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: their last point, and then we'll be out of time.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: This is not a business issue, especially in the critical infrastructure.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: It's a public service issue. It's a safety issue. It's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: a societal issue. When the water plant goes down and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: is out for days, then what? If the grid goes
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: down and is out for months, then what? We've got
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: to get serious about this. Organizations like CS have these
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: great resources out there. Anyone that's listening to me, you
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: got questions, I'm happy to talk about this, point you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: in the right direction. The Center for Internet Security Critical
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: Control is super, super valuable.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: And this is something that you do for businesses in
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the world performing this analysis. It's 7.06. Here at 55KRC,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Brian Thomas, that's my name, host of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: this morning's show. And I got executive producer Joe Strecker
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: lining up guests and Taking a week off next week,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: much to my chagrin. I always get really concerned and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: nervous when Joe's not in there. We've got good people
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: around here to cover for him, but they are in
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: no way, shape, or form Joe Strecker. But he did
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: provide me in advance some of the rundowns for next week,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: so I'm really happy that Leah Dankalaker is going to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: be back on the program. I had her fundraiser last night,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: and I was honored to be a speaker at that fundraiser.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Got some good people there. And she, of course, is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: a worthy vote. We got, oh, who was it that's
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: coming on next week? Magistrate Lucan? Did I read that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: she's going to be in studio, Joe? Was that accurate?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Ah, burst my bubble. Anyway, great guests lined up for
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: next week. See Joe doing his job, making sure everything's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: taken care of before he leaves. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: on AT & T phones. I was talking about this
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: amazing development earlier in the program, this new project that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: there's been an application of the Bureau of Land Management for,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: for 456 small modular reactors, Project Beehive, on federal land
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: in Utah. And, of course, that would meet the demand
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: needs we have for electricity to run AI, the massive
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: wealthy AI inventors and controllers met with Trump earlier in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: this week. Trump says, listen, we are moving forward. We're
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: not going to put the brakes on. That's what Bernie
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Sanders wants. This is a global race for artificial intelligence.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Somebody's got to win it, and damn it, we're going
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: to do it. What do you need for that? Lots
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: of electricity. Timing couldn't be more interesting because they also
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: unveiled Wednesday, I believe, that the Senate has reached a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: bipartisan deal to reform permitting laws for large energy infrastructure. Now, again, bipartisan.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: It does mention wind and solar farms, but it also
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: talks about approvals for projects like data centers, extra gas pipelines,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: removing impediments in the regulatory scheme, demanding or insisting that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: the major reviews are done within one or two years
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: so you don't get a drug on, on, and on,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: and on, making it harder to overturn issue permits. I thought, well,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. This is an across-the-board agreement, as it's been
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: presented in the reporting. Across-the-board agreement, Republicans, Democrats... greasing the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: skids to allow quicker production of electricity. That's good. Obviously,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: it's needed. So I'm cautiously optimistic about that. And then
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: the discussion I had with Judge Ed Napolitano on one
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: of the cases that the Supreme Court's going to be
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: taking up, it's Suncor Energy versus Boulder County. This is
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: the one Alito recused himself from, which means you could
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: be set up for a 4-4 decision. If it goes
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: 4-4 or the lower court is upheld, then we are
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: screwed as a country. And it will be the biggest
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: win the leftists have ever achieved. Supreme Court returns, and
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I rely on William Bargain standing on the shoulders of
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: a giant. He was U.S. Attorney General for a whole
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: bunch of years. He was a lawyer at a big
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: law firm. Anyway, he points this out. One of the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: extra arguments that need be made, because they submitted an
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: amicus brief, in Suncor Energy versus Boulder, Colorado, in support
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: of Suncor Energy's position. So he writes, when the Supreme
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Court returns for its new term on Monday, the first
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: case it's going to hear is Suncor Energy, which asks
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: whether state and local governments can use state tort laws
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: to impose liability on American companies for the effects of
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: global climate change. Not the first one to try this.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: Boulder County, the city of Boulder, sued Suncor and ExxonMobil
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: in a Colorado court. They said the community has been
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: harmed by global climate change. Seeking damage for local harms,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: liability would not be based on the company's actions in Colorado,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: but on the extent its worldwide production and sale of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: fuels are found to have contributed to greenhouse gases in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the global atmosphere. This is a global problem. That's the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: point he's making here. It gets better as the article
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: goes on, though. Anyway, trial would give local juries the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: authority to determine what share of global climate change each
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: American company should be held responsible for. You're on that jury.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: How are you going to... Anyway, this is frustrating to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: me as a litigation attorney. I think this should have
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: been thrown out the minute it landed as a complaint. Anyway,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: part of the wave, such litigation by far left-leaning states
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: and localities that aim to bankrupt fossil fuel companies. And
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I'm arguing right now, and I'm making the point, they
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: want to bankrupt the fossil fuel companies, not because they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: really believe that they're killing the planet. They want to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: bankrupt them because it gives us the energy we need
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: that fuels capitalism. And consumption. They hate consumption. They want
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: the level playing field with all of us to have
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: pretty much nothing. Anyway, defendants have several strong constitutional arguments.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: These have all been advanced in the briefing before the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court. Our federal structure doesn't permit one state to
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: regulate inherently interstate matters. Extraterritoriality principles prevent a state from
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: applying its own law to impose liability for activities on
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: other states or countries. And the Clean Air Act assigns
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: primarily responsibility for regulating emissions to the Environmental Protection Agency
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: while preserving only limited state authority over in-state resources. And
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: that's one of the things that Napolitano was leaning on. Listen,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: this is a federal regulated issue. States can't come in
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: and independently regulate something that covers the entire country. But,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: he writes, one fundamental defect in Boulder's case hasn't received
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: as much attention as it deserves. It intrudes directly into
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: foreign policy. an area the Constitution commits only to the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: federal government. Boulder's complaint makes that plain. The claims are
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: based on the global phenomenon of climate change and the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: atmospheric accumulation of greenhouse gases from every single carbon source
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: around the world. Thus, the lawsuit takes the position not
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: merely on local environmental harms, but on how responsibility for
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: an international problem should be allocated among American companies, foreign companies,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: and foreign nations. That is definitionally foreign policy. From the beginning,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the Constitution was designed to ensure the United States would
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: speak with one voice in its dealings around the world.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: States can't conduct their own foreign relations or establish competing
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: national policies toward other countries. Supreme Courts repeatedly enforce that principle.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Reason is practical as well as constitutional. International problems require
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: national bargaining. Federal government must be able to decide what
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: obligations the United States is going to accept, what concessions
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: it's going to seek from other countries. how responsibility will
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: be apportioned, and what combination of diplomacy, regulation, and economic
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: policy best serves the national interest. Those judgments often involve
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: trade-offs extending far beyond the subject of any single lawsuit
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: or regional interest. No city, council, or state court can
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: make those choices for the country as a whole. And
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: he writes, climate policy is a textbook example. Presidents of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: both parties have treated the greenhouse gas emissions as a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: global problem and must be handled on the international stage.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: the only arena where these matters can be realistically and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: equitably handled. Different administrations have chosen different policies, but they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: have agreed that meaningful climate policy necessarily involves other sovereign nations.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Boulder's suit cuts across that national function. It asks a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: state court to impose potentially enormous liability on selected American
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: energy companies for their alleged contributions to a worldwide phenomenon.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: And I think selected is an important word in there.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: How did they just handpick a handful of greenhouse gas
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: emitters and choose them? Anyway, yet the overwhelming share of
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: the conduct at issue lies beyond not only Colorado's boulders,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: but America's. It's precisely the kind of judgment the Constitution
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: does not permit hundreds of state and local governments to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: make independently. Supreme Court's foreign affairs cases already of record
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: provide a straightforward rule. Where a state intrudes on foreign
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: policy without a serious claim to be exercising a traditional responsibility,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: the Constitution plainly requires preemption. That's a great argument. Boulder
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: can't plausibly claim a traditional state or local role in
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: regulating worldwide greenhouse gas emissions. States have authority over local
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: environmental matters, but not over the global climate issue. conflict
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: with foreign policy is obvious for decades presidents and congress
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: have pursued climate policy through federal statutes diplomacy and international
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: agreements those policies reflect difficult balancing of environmental interest economic
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: growth national security and relations with other countries a state
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: law liability regime that imposes its own cost on american
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: companies for global emissions would necessarily alter the national balance
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: And get a load of this, the problem would multiply
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: if Boulder's theory were accepted. And this is the real
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: problem we've got with the potential 4-4 split on the court.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Dozens of state and municipalities could impose different standards, different
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: measures of liability, different judgments about responsibility for the same
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: global emissions. Can you imagine what Cincinnati City Council would do?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Filing its own lawsuit? Maybe the city of Dayton? Columbus?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: It would be overwhelming.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: American energy companies could face massive cumulative liability estimated by
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: plaintiff-aligned experts in the trillions of dollars under a patchwork
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: of local rules with the principal foreign sources of emission
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: remaining outside of American court reach. What about the Chinese emissions?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Think about that. From an evidentiary standpoint, Chinese obviously belching
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: out carbon into the atmosphere and coal and pollutants and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: all that. How do you figure out how much China
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: has emitted with their multitude of coal-fired plants and gas
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: plants and everything else versus what you're going to assign
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: responsibility for for the evil oil companies? It's bat crap insane.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: And then every single business in the world, every little entity,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: every single house is producing carbon and greenhouse gas emissions itself.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Everywhere you turn, this is happening. I'm looking at a
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: computer monitor. It produces sort of greenhouse gases. The effect,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: it's got electricity being used and heat generated from it. Anyway,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: he concludes, what everyone thinks about climate change or the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: proper regulation of fossil fuels the constitution assigns a responsibility
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: for the nation's dealings with the rest of the world
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: to the federal government the basic principle is older than
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: modern climate debate america doesn't conduct foreign policy through state
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: courthouses Suncor gives the Supreme Court an opportunity to reaffirm
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: that principle. Foreign policy is a job for U.S. government
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and not Boulder. And honestly, folks, as I read this argument,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: and I understand all the complexities that go along with it,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: this foreign policy argument, I think, is legitimately something that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: even the liberal justices on the court could wrap their
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: head around. And they certainly are going to have to
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: appreciate the complicated reality if they allow individual municipalities and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: states to sue the fuel companies, then we're basically going
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: to run them completely out of business. 718-55KRC, the talk station. Oh, look,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: carbon producers. See, the talk station. And it's 722-55KRC, the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: talk station. Good morning, Eric. Charmed in with an instant message.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I think you almost said it correctly. Greenhouse asses. No,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: that would have been referring to the people peddling that nonsense. No,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: I was referring to the greenhouse gases that he references
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: in the article and foreign policy critically important in that discussion. Anyway,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: since I just did a 22-3 firearm commercial, love those
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: folks out there. Good morning, Wendy and Jeff and the crew.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Earlier this week, the Department of Justice amended its complaint
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: against San Jose, California's concealed carry license fee. They're having
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: another go. They amended the complaint to include a constitutional
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: challenge to their liability insurance requirement for gun owners. Welcome
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: to the left-wing nonsense of San Jose, California. Now, the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: initial complaint was looking at the presumptively unconstitutional concealed carry
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: license fee of $ 1, 600. Prohibitively expensive for the vast majority
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: of people who, without paying a fee, get to enjoy
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: their Second Amendment rights to be free, right to bear arms.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: That's out. Bruin would throw that one out. When our
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: founding fathers signed on to the Constitution and put the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Second Amendment in there, Did they have to pay a
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: $ 1, 600 fee to get their musket? Right, no. Anyway, the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: amended complaint has a go at San Jose's liability insurance
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: requirement for gun owners. The Gun Harm Reduction Ordinance requires
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: firearm owners to obtain and maintain liability insurance and pay
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: an annual gun harm reduction fee. So for all the
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: responsible firearm owners who can come up with $ 1, 600, buy
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: a firearm, and get an insurance policy, you're also going
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: to have to pay for the harm done by firearms
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: by other irresponsible gun owners? Right. Oh, and parenthetically, did
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: the founding fathers have to get an insurance policy to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: own a firearm? Right, no. Is this a gift to
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: insurance companies? Yes, it is. Unbelievable. I like to see
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: the memos back and forth between the lobbyists and the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: officials in San Jose. Yeah, you need to make a
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: buying insurance policy. Like, the lover has to pay out
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: a claim for that. Because responsible gun owners are, from
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: an actuarial standpoint, really, really, really unlikely to create a
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: liability situation where the insurance companies have to pay for it. Uh-huh.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: They're not going to pay for intentional harm done by guns.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: I guarantee that's an exclusion in the policy. If you
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: go out and you shoot someone, you got one of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: these policies. I'm sorry, claim denied. 725, 55KRC, the talk station. 729, 55KRC,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: the talk station. Good chunk of the show dedicated to
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: German history. We start with Herr Toltzman. Don Heinrich Toltzman,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: our resident German expert, with a couple of new books
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: he's got on German heritage and history as it's related
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: to the city of Cincinnati. And then after the top
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: of the hour news, Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest folks are
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: in the studio to talk some Genusslichkeit and give us
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: the info about the Oktoberfest this weekend. Herr Toltzman, welcome
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: back to the 55KRC Morning Show. It's always a pleasure
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: to have you on the program.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: Well, guten Morgen. It's good to talk to you. And
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: I'd like to begin by thanking Joe Strecker. who is
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: a Dona Schwab for getting me scheduled. It's always good
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: to talk to him.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: He's going to be out at the Dona Schwab Oktoberfest
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: on the weekend, and I and my wife will be
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: there tomorrow. We've been longtime members of the Dona Schwab Society,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: and our granddaughter will be there on Sunday because in
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: the clubhouse they also sell– Gently used German folk clothing, dirndls, lederhosen,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: and so on. So our whole family will be there.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: And tomorrow they have the grand parade opening ceremony. And
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: one thing I would like to mention before I talk
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: about my books, too, is also... Dona Schwaben sausage is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: available at Dona Schwaben. It's the only place, festival, you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: can buy it, and it's made according to a special recipe,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: and I'm sure your guests will talk more about it.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: If they're out there, wait a second, Herr Toltzman, hold on.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: If they're out there, and they're listening right now, and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: they're not bringing some of that with them, it's time
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: to turn around, go back to where the sausage is,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: grab some, and bring it into the studio, although I've
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Having a good authority, they're bringing that with them because
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: they know how much I love it. You are right, man,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad you brought that up. That right there
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: is reason enough to go to the Donner Schwab and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Oktoberfest this weekend.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: You can only get it there, and it's homemade.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: It's an old country recipe. I mean, it's ten times
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: better than regular, in my view, Brats and Mets. Homemade
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: Donner Schwab and sausage.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not to negate the goodness of a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: traditional Brater Met, which I love, but no, this is
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: a completely different realm. I mean, it's... It's great.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: And, of course, great brew. But, again, one thing I'd
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: like to mention, too, you can get German clothing there, too,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: if you don't have a pair of lederhosen or dendel.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, as a matter of fact, I donated a
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: German suit. So, I mean, it's just a great event
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: all the way around and in a beautiful location and park.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: Very nice.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: What is a, definitionally speaking, what is a German suit,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Herr Toltzmann?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's a traditional folk clothing, and it has different tailoring,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: a different collar and lapels, and just overall different tailoring
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: and design that identifies it. And according to region, because
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: Germany is very regional, so it's a Bavarian style.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: And just like lederhosen are Bavarian.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a question for you, and I suppose
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: German suit as opposed to one from Savile Row. But
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: in terms of lederhosen, there are a whole bunch of
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: different types of leather pants out there, depending on region, correct?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: That is true. I mean, there are lederhosen that are short.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: There are some that come down to the knees, and
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: then some that go over the knees. There are kniebundhosen.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: So there are various types and varieties. And it's... Basically
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: a Bavarian style, but for the different regions and towns
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: and so on and villages, you can detect where the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: origin might be for folk clothing.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. Because I have one pair of lederhosen that I
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: had given to me, and I wore them one time,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: and a guy walked up to me with the three-quarter
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: length of the over-the-knee length. He said, you got the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: wrong lederhosen on for this October festival. I'm like, what, what? Hey, man,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: you're looking at a guy who doesn't have any German
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: heritage in him. I just love hanging out with these
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: German folks because they're a riot. Good party. Oh, and
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: I will, a prop to Don Holtzman, I can just
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: say out loud, you know, who looks really hot in
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: a dirndl? My wife.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I remember it. And I hope you get out
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: this weekend, too. And, you know, the full clothing, it's
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: just very interesting. It just reflects the German heritage. And
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: Dona Schwaben, too, the men usually wear a dark black
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: vest and black pants. It's folk clothing that goes back, actually,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: to the 18th century. The dirndls reflect Dona Schwaben colors
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: in their dress, so they are distinct. And they're a
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: very important part of the German heritage, and they bring
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: a lot of enthusiasm to the community. And so, you know,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: My wife and I will be glad to be there,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: and our granddaughter and family will be out there on Sunday. Brian,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: we hope to see you. And I talked to Harry Strecker.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: He said he's coming out tomorrow, so we hope to
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: see him. His family is Donut Schwaben, too.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. I don't think we have anything going on
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: this weekend, so the likelihood of me being there is
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: pretty damn strong, Don, I have to tell you that,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: because you've already got me thinking about these sausages and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: beer and women in dirndl's. Don Holtzman, don't go away.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about your books coming up next. It's 735
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: right now, 55 KRC Detox Station. Foreign Exchange, get your
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: car up to Westchester. Foreign Exchange, Westchester KRC Detox Station.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas with what I like to call our resident
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: German expert. He doesn't live here, but he is Herod
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Don Heinrich Toltzman. He is an author of books, and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: we've got a couple of new ones to talk about. First,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: let's start with the first description of Cincinnati and other
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: Ohio settlements, the subheadings. the travel report of Johann Heckenwalder
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: from 1792. We're going way back on this one. Plus,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: it has an introduction by H.A. Radiman, who is someone
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: of note. Maybe you should explain, before we dive in,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: some of the details on the first description of Cincinnati.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Who is H.A. Radiman, and why is he important to
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: this book, Eric Toltzman?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: He was a German-American historian here who wrote and published
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: many books. He edited a journal called The German Pioneer,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: and he was head of a German insurance company, and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: the building that housed his company is on Walnut Street
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: and over the Rhine. It's called the Germania Building. So
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: he was a very prolific author, and he found and
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: translated a report that was written by Johan Heckevelder. He
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: was a German-Moravian missionary, and he traveled down the Ohio
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: River in 1792. And, of course, Fort Washington had been
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: opened in 1790, so it was a relatively new area
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: coming here on the frontier. And Rotterman found that out
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: a German report. It was published in Germany. He translated,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: but it was never published. And then in doing my research,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: and I'm always working on looking up materials that highlight
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: the German dimension of our area, and I always stress
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: that if you don't understand the German heritage, you don't
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: really understand our area, because it's just, you find it
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: everywhere you go. A good example are all of our
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: Oktoberfest celebrations. But in any event, this report was published
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: in Germany. It was a positive report, and it was
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: read widely in Germany. And so people always ask me, well,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: why do people come here? Well, one of the reasons
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: they came early on in the 1800s was because of
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: this report, which describes what it was like here. Now,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: it does describe the conditions then. It was a rugged
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: time period at that time. There was danger from uh,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: from the Indians at the time. As a matter of fact,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: the opening sentence describes somebody getting scalped, uh, outside of
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: the fort and how, and how muskets were fired. But the, uh,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: Indian just proceeded with scalping. So, and also describes, you know,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: coming down the Ohio river, that was a dangerous thing
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: at that time because around every bend of the corner,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: you might get attacked. And, um, So, Heckewelder describes those conditions.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, that you had to be very careful, but
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 6: he does describe the beautiful landscape, all the game. Even
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: at that time, there were still bears in the area. But,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, there was a lot of game here, and
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: there was land that was available. And, of course, in
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: the old country, farms were relatively small, 30, 40 acres.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: But here you could acquire a great deal of land.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting that he describes the early settlement. At
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: that time, there were about 900 people here in the
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: early settlement. There was about 200 men at.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 7: The fort.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: And he describes all the settlers that were coming here.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: And there were pioneers that were coming from the east.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: And there were also, he describes the good and the
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: bad and the ugly, because at that time, If you
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: got into trouble or did something that wasn't right, what
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: people did in those days, they could always say they
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: could escape to the frontier, come out west, come out like,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: for example, Fort Washington in Cincinnati, and you could reinvent yourself.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: So that happened a lot, but there were a lot
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: of pioneers that came out here and they acquired land
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: and helped build the area and the location here. along
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: the Ohio River, it reminded them of the Rhine. They
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: felt right at home. They even called this area the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: American Rhineland. Again, this was so important, too, for describing
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: the area and being the very first description. It'll let
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: you know what it was like when pioneers came here,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: what it was like, how dangerous it was. You wouldn't
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: want to wander far from the fort. For example, from
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: Fort Washington on the riverfront, if you wandered up around
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: where you see is located, well.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: You'd be killed.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: You could be killed.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you know who else wrote about this? Maybe a
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: good companion book is the one by Peter Bronson, Promised Land,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: How the Midwest Was Won. I am talking about that.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I read that book. Oh, my God. If you walked
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: out of the fort, typically there were Native Americans lurking
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: in the woods that would do anything they could to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: either kidnap you or kill you.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: That's very true. Pete Bronson, he's a good friend of mine.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned that because he describes what kind
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: of things could happen to you if you got captured.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: And there are things that you couldn't even go into
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: detail because they were so gruesome.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: What was happening then, too, relates to my other book
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: about the first mayor of Cincinnati, David Sigler, when he
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: came here. When Cincinnati was formed, this was after the
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: American Revolution, but it's not generally well known that although
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: England lost the war, the Revolutionary War, nothing changed. in
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: the Northwest Territory. And I mean by nothing changed. Britain
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: kept its fort, Fort Detroit. They had trappers and traders,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: honeycombs throughout Ohio. And they supplied food, weapons, clothing to
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: the Indians and encouraged them to to attack these settlers. Now,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: we could have had a peaceable frontier, but the British
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: fomented these problems because they did not accept that they
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: had lost the Revolutionary War, and also they valued the
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: fur trade, which was very important at that time. And
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: all of these things, they eventually percolated over uh, into
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: the war of 1812, which is really called the second
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: American revolution because Brit, uh, Britain did not accept the defeat.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: Well, can I draw a modern day parallel Don? Uh,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the native Americans were sort of, I guess, proxy terrorist
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: organizations for the British. They got them to kill. They
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: got them to kill settlers.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: They, they were. And, uh, you know, I often think
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: that maybe the frontier story could have been peaceable, uh,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: if there had been a different case and scenario of
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: the British involvement. And it wasn't until the War of 1812,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: and of course that goes into another topic, but the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: British even occupied Washington, D.C., and burnt it. I mean,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: so they finally had to admit defeat, but in the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: time period we're talking about, 1790s, It was a rugged area,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: and also Peter Bronson, who you mentioned, he did describe
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: that area. This other book that is on the first
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: mayor of Cincinnati, and I don't know how widely that's known,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: but the first mayor was a German immigrant. He came
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: here at age 27 in 1775, and– He had served
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: in the Prussian army, which at that time was the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: best army actually in Europe. And he, like many soldiers,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 6: they were excited about the American Revolution and all the
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: freedoms and liberties. And he wanted to come to the
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: new world, just like Baron von Steuben did. The Continental Army,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: which was the American Army, counted on these soldiers so
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: much because they had military experience. They had studied at
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: military academies. And so when he came here in 1775,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 6: things were just percolating and getting into— boiling over into the Revolution.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: And he joined a Pennsylvania regiment and— He was at
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 6: Valley Forge with Baron von Steuben and George Washington.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: And the.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 6: Book tells about the first mayor. It's his biography and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: his experiences in the Prussian army and when he first
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: came here and what it was like. And also at
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 6: the end of the revolution, the Continental Army was disbanded.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 6: But that is when the U.S. Army was created. And
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: that's what David Siegler, he joined the U.S. Army. And
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: the major reason it was formed at that time was
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: to protect the settlers and pioneers of on the frontier
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: in Ohio. That's why it was formed, because they had
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: to protect it, and along the Ohio River, beginning in Marietta,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: you had forts, and the fort in our area, Fort Washington,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: was built and opened in 1790, and to protect the people.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: And so he was involved with that with all the soldiers.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: And when he came here, there was one company in
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: his regiment that was Pennsylvania Germans. And what was important
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: about the soldiers at the fort, well, after their tour
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: of duty, they didn't go back to Pennsylvania. They stayed
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: here and lived here. And Siegler, he opened a— a
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: story here. And then he was so widely respected, he
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: was elected the first mayor of the town. And later on,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: President Jefferson appointed him as the Marshal of Ohio and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: an adjutant general. And over the Rhine, there is a
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: Ziegler Park that honors him. Also in Memorial Hall, which
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: is a great place to visit if you want to
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: see a lot of memorials to soldiers from our area.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: It was founded to salute soldiers in Hamilton County.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: That's a great facility. Well, we're out of time here.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: The first description of Cincinnati and other Ohio settlements, a
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: travel report of Johann Heckewelder and the first mayor of Cincinnati,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: George Katzenberg's biography of Major David Ziegler, both edited by
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Don Heinrich Toltzman. Appreciate you being on the program. Appreciate
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: you documenting Cincinnati's history and its connection with the German heritage.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: I know my German heritage friends would be very interested
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: in reading it. And not so esoteric, others and fans
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: of history will not also enjoy reading it. So, Heinrich Toltzman,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: see you at the Oktoberfest this weekend. Thanks for your
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: time this morning, and thanks for watching. Continuing a theme
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: here on the 55KRC Morning Show this gorgeous Friday. It
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: is that time of year. It's Oktoberfest season, generally speaking,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: but we've got a great one going on this weekend.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: It's the Don and Schwabin Oktoberfest 2026. And the Don
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: and Schwabin folks are in the studio to talk about this.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: And thank God, Harry Toltzman mentioned the sausages. You're going
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: to be able to enjoy the Don and Schwabin event.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: And I said, if you guys haven't brought any sausages,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: turn around, go back and get some. Lo and behold,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: as has been tradition for multiple years in a row,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: a huge tray of these wonderful sausages. Welcome. It is
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: always a pleasure to enjoy some early community kite before
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: we get to the Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest. Good to
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: have you in the studio. And thanks again for bringing
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: the wonderful food and beverages, which we're not allowed to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: eat or drink in the studio, right? You guys know
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: the rules.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: Give me that bottle, would you?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. The longer I work here and
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: the closer I get to retirement, the less I care.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: Anyhow.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: We're going to do the whys, the whens, and the wheres.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: And let us start by beginning that I always regularly
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: acknowledge that I don't think I have any German in me.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: That's okay. You're still invited. Not presently right now, of course.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: No phrasing button from Strecker. But genetically speaking, my mom
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: did one of the genetic tests, and she didn't have
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: any German there. That makes perfect sense considering her heritage
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: goes all the way back. She's the daughter of the
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: American Revolution in England. but never had dads tested. I
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: always suspected I had some Germany in me, but the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: important point is you guys aren't, you know, complaining about
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: cultural appropriation when you have an octoberfest.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody is german this weekend everyone is german.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: You're like an irish put your cultural appropriation.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 12: Crap down that's right that's right say something like that
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 12: oh gosh.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: But it's a great opportunity for fun and games um
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: and i guess did you Anybody know the story of
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: the original Oktoberfest? Or this just goes back to the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: fall tradition in Germany? Is it a harvest celebration?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 12: I would assume probably something like that. But to tell
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 12: you the truth, I don't know.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 12: It's been going on forever.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: So long.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 12: For so long.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: And you have multiple German groups in and around greater Cincinnati.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 11: Correct, yes.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Of course, Herr Toltzman talked about our history. We're steeped
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: in it. But everybody supports everybody else's festival.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, our club, the Dona Schwaben, we have
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: dance groups, and we perform at the other clubs, like
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Colby and Germania. We perform at their Oktoberfest, their festivals.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: They come to ours. It's definitely, like, we all support
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: each other.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: It's a nice thing to see and hold. And do
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: you have a parade with everybody's banners?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: So that's actually on Saturday. So everything kicks off tonight.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: The festivities start around 5.30 p.m.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: Tonight.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: And then Saturday— It's from 1 p.m. to 11, and
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: the parade's around 4. So the parade, everyone will march around.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: We have people from other clubs, and they're carrying their flags.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: And that's when our Grand Marshal, Jennifer Ketchmark, she's going
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: to tap the official keg and start us off.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: I was honored to be a Grand Marshal. It's fun.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: It's fun, yeah.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: You've got to hit the tap just right.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: And you can't be scared. Yeah, I did it last
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: year at the Hofbrauhaus. Not at the parade, but I
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: did it at the Hofbrauhaus in– It was pretty scary.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, I'm afraid I'm going to
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: mess it up, but it's fun.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Performance anxiety.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, a little bit.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: A little bit. Now, do you have the beer races
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: and the games and the Stein races and things like
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: that going on this weekend?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: We have a whole tent that has games of all kinds,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: and we have And then you can, I don't know
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: exactly what games are being. There is a Stein.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: Like holding. That's the one.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: You have to hold it out.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 12: And the log sawing contest goes on on Saturday evening.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 12: And men and women are invited to come.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: So it's not just for the guys. The saw with
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: the handle on both sides.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: We also do that in one of our dances. So yeah,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: the shoe thoughtless. Well, it's, it's, it's a pretty fun
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: dance and the girls get to saw and then the
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: boys are Hitting the axe on the wood. So it's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: pretty crazy.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: It's fun.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: You know, Trekker's kids, when they were a lot younger,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: were in the little kids' Donald Schwab and dance group.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when you see those.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Kids, it's so cute.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 7: It's amazing.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: It's from, they start dancing around four years old. Yeah.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: And you keep, there's groups up until your hips don't
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: work anymore, and yet you can dance until... Dance until
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: you can't. I know that.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I was mentioning when Toltzman was on earlier, he talked
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: about the dirndls and the clothing that you can buy
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: at the Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest. I said a lot ago,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: you know who looks really hot in a dirndl? My wife.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking about that in the context. I
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: know it's the same guy every year, but she always
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: ends up getting captured. I'll use that term. I know
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: it's pejorative, or at least it sounds that way. Someone
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: ends up, you know, she gets their attention, some elderly
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: German guy who wants to dance with her. So she
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: loves it. She dances with everything like that. It's awesome.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: You've got to beware.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 12: If you've got a dirndl, someone might bring you to dance.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: Someone's going to dance with you.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the point.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Same with if you've got lederhosen on. Someone's going to
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: grab you and dance. We're going to pull you in.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Nobody did that to me. Maybe it's me. Okay.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: If I see you out.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: There, I'll grab you. We're going to pull you on
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: that floor.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I have a body that's not ready for lederhosen.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: You don't want to go down that road, Thomas.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: I was saying, what type of lederhosen are affiliated with
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: the Donner Schwaben? Because I have the short ones above
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: the knee. And one year, because I go to multiple Oktoberfests,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of them. And I was wearing them,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: and a guy with the ones that go over the
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: knee said, you got the wrong lederhosen on for this event.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, it's a regional thing in Germany.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and truthfully, for the Donner Schwaben people, honestly, Schuhplattlerin
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: and the lederhosen aren't. like our traditional garb. It's Bavarian.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: It's Bavarian.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: The black pants and the hat and the vest.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: That's more of our traditional outfits that we wear. And
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: like the, we have like Trachten, which are sort of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: like dirndls. They're just more like, I guess traditional is
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: like the right word there. So like the dirndls and
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: stuff is more like leisure, leisure wear. And the lederhosen
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: are more Bavarian. And then the black and whites with
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: like the vest over top, that's more of like our
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Dona Schwaben traditional. For the men. For the men.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: It's optional, though.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing is, like, if you come in lederhosen,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: we're not turning you away. We have a Schupatler group
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: that dances with the lederhosen on. And so we've kind of, like,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: it's like a melting pot of all of different cultures
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: kind of, like, coming together. So that's what's so special
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Lederhosen of all types are welcome.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: It's just that they were being, you know, sort of
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: reminding me that, you know, I think it was a
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: half-joking gesture because I wasn't the only one there.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: That had those kind of lederhosen.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: But it's an opportunity to wear them because how many
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: times throughout the year are you wearing your lederhosen?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, Oktoberfest season, pretty much.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were like Daisy Dukes. Oh, no, they weren't
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: that short. And you would never catch me wearing anything
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: like that from a man's clothing perspective because my wife
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: jokingly refers to my butt as a preemie butt. I
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: have no butt. I have legs that go directly into
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: a torso. That is so funny.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 11: I love that.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Quite revealing here in the morning.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it has to be.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: All right, so there's going to be beer. I'm looking
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: at a list of beers. Oh, and folks, if you're
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: on Facebook, you can go to Cincinnati Donau Schwaben Oktoberfest.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: D-O-N-A-U Schwaben. S-C-H-W-A-B-E-N. Donau Schwaben Oktoberfest. You have multiple beers
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: that are going.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: To be at this event. Over 35 imported beers.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: 35?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: 35. 35.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: There's some domestic if you like it a little bit easier,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: but I tend to go for the different ones, the
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: imported ones.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say when in Rome, but
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: when in Germany.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: As the Germans do.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have some really good ones here. Some of them.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of before. Yeah, there's... Schiegel Goldbrau. That's
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: a new one for me. That is a new one.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 12: I've not even tried that one.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: There's a couple that I think we're going to have
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: to do. We're going to have to go and do
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: a little tasting.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: I love that. Sign me up wherever that happens to
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: be taking place. And you brought the grapefruit beer in
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: with you this year, too, like you always do.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: That's always a classic.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: Is that a... The whole thing, citrus fruit, grapefruit... Not
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: something that's grown in Germany, to the best of my knowledge.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: How in God's name did a grapefruit-flavored infused beer or
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: beverage end up becoming synonymous with German?
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 12: I want to say it started more with, like, they
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 12: would add, like, lemon to their beer.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like lemonade.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 12: Like, it'd get a little citrusy flavor to it.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: Kind of like Corona with lime. Right.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 12: I want to say the grapefruit kind.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Of was more Americanized.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 12: But they would add, like, sprites or, like, citrusy flavors.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 12: drinks to their beer okay yes i think to make
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 12: it more refreshing after they've been working okay.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: It's just an extension of something we're doing anyway yes
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: yes not with grapefruit though correct yeah i.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Think the grapefruit grapefruit was more like we americanized it
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit but yeah we sure do.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: It's eight coming up at 8 15 we're going to
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: continue with donna schwab and october fest folks in studio
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: we have oh wait a minute somebody just said my
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: butt's perfect facebook instant message Rebecca, you are too damn kind.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I love you, too. Thank you. Coming back,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about some of the events with the music.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit more about what's
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: going to be out there and why it's a great
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: idea to get out to the Adonis Robin Octoberfest. Don't
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: go away. I'll be right back. 55KRC. The Etox Station. 819.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: The 55KRC Etox Station. Is Thomas eating?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Of course not.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: I would never do that in the studio. Here, hold on.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: I had to wash that down. Anyhow, if I were eating,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: that was a theoretical wash down of Donna's Robin Sausage.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: Is that what it's called? Donna's Robin Sausage?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's our own homemade. It's our very own recipe. Okay.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of Blazing Saddles, you know, 15's my
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: limit on schnitzel and grubbin'. I just ate three Donna
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Schrauben sausages in the last 10 minutes.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: Right, right, yes.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: I got 12 more to go.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: There you go, yeah. You still have more.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Donna Schrauben Oktoberfest on Facebook, and they have their
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: own website, too. It's Cincinnati with a Y, Donna, D-O-N-A-U
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: dot com. Joe's going to put those links up to
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: the 55 KRC Morning Show website, so you know where
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: to go and when to be there. When does it start?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: Starts tonight at 5.30 p.m. And it ends around 11 tonight.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: That's a Horain Township's idea.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: Sound ordinance.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: They have a sound ordinance, so we have to end
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: at 11.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: There's somebody out there bursting somebody's car.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: And then it goes on Saturday from 1 p.m. to
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: 11 p.m. And then Sunday is 12 to 8, but
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: we also have the car show on Sunday.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, no kidding.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Which is from 10 to 3, and registration's $ 20. And
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: awards are at 3 o'clock for that on Sunday.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: Bet you like German cars there.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: I think, like, it's just a whole lot of everything. Honestly, yeah.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: We see so many different kinds of cars.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: Newer, older.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really pretty cool.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: So really, if someone has a subjective opinion in their
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: head that their car should be at a car show,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: then you will welcome them. Absolutely.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: So that's something that we've started doing. But yeah, it's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: our 34th annual Oktoberfest at Donutsch Robin.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Now, there's a history behind how it ended up. You
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: and other German clubs, as I've come to understand, were
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: the ones responsible for the original downtown Cincinnati Oktoberfest?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, we were.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all kind of helped organize it, start it,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: and then we kind of all branched off and started
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: our own at our own club. So it kind of,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: we're carrying on traditions from all around and we still
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: dance down at the downtown Oktoberfest as well.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you do. I guess what happened to
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: become a little more homogenized and not German enough? I mean,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: you really focus on the German.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Heritage and culture. We keep it very, very much authentic
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: to our own people and I know Colpin and Germania
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: try to do the same thing. And so it kind
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: of just became more so like a little bit, again,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: like we said, Americanized, you know, everyone kind of. Now you're,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: you know, selling things that maybe aren't as authentic. And
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: so we kind of try to keep it pretty authentic
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: at our club, too.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: With the exception of Schofholfer Hefeweizen beer grapefruit flavor. That
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: would be an Americanized beer.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: Definitely an Americanized beer.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: We throw some Americanized stuff in there, you know. But, yeah,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: we try to keep it pretty authentic. Yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Why drink beer if you drink Miller Lite?
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 7: I know. I'm just saying.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: What's the point?
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 12: I'm just saying.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: Quantity. No, no, no.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 8: Don't even say that because the Schofer-Holfer hefeweizen beer comes
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 8: in at a raging alcohol by volume content of 2.5.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: So it's basically water.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Basically juice. It's grapefruit juice.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: With a little kick.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: It's going to be all weekend. It is going to
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: be all weekend. It's a $ 5 admission.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: Pays yourself.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: And kids under 12 get in for free.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Love that.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. We also have a whole kids area. So
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: bring your kids out. There's games. There's a whole little playground.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: So don't be afraid if you have little kids. Bring
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: them out.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: No, they'll love it.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: They'll love it.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: It's so fun.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Now, in terms of music.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: We have our very own Alpinechos.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: So they'll be performing all weekend. And we have some
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: German bands, some bands coming from Germany. And we also
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: have bands coming from other places in the States that
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: are coming down to perform just for us, like friends
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: and our other friends.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Joe Strucker just wants me to ask you, is Rammstein
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: coming to perform? The answer is no.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. He's in there cracking up. Would
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: you say a heavy.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: Metal band there, Jo?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: Just a little heavy. Yeah, you might want to check
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: them out.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. Maybe they'll play a German cover or something.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: That's the kind of German cover you're really thinking about.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 12: We do have our own very, the Verheim Musikhund.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: Is that how you say it? Verheim Musikhund, yeah. A
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: lot of them are members, and so they'll be performing
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: inside as well.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: All three of the German clubs.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: It's a really big band. Yes, like Germania, Kolpin, and
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: then our own club. Oh, good. Yeah, so they come
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: and they'll do some songs as well. Yeah, we have
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of, and then entertainment-wise as well, we have
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: all of our dance groups will be performing all weekend.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: We have like our Kleine Kinder group. We have our,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: I guess they sort of dance with like the middle group.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: And then we have our Jugend group. the Shoe Plotlers,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: and then we also have our Trachten group that'll be
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: performing as well.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 12: The Enzian dancers do perform also.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful, yeah.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: So they'll be performing too over the weekend.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I know everyone is really thankful for the German
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: heritage we have in Cincinnati. At least they should be,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: and that's why we love having Herr Toltzman on to
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: just remind people about how steep we are in German heritage,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: and of course, All the German clubs remind us of that.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: And I really appreciate your focus on the heritage and
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: keeping these young people involved and reminding them of where
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: they came from. And I think it's just really important.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, my grandma and grandpa, they're both immigrants
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: from Austria and Germany. And so we really like, it's
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: important to me and my family to be a part
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: of it. And also, even if you're not a family
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: member of an immigrant, they come and they celebrate and
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: they dance with us. And then it's still keeping our heritage.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: like heritage alive because it's being spread to other people
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: who maybe wouldn't have heard of it before. So it's
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: definitely really amazing. And it's something that's really important to us.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: I'm glad it is. And I'm glad you're having the Oktoberfest.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: It's always a terrific time. So get there tonight, tomorrow
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: or Sunday, the information on my blog page, 55 care seat.com,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: or you can go to the Facebook website for Cincinnati
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: Donna Schwab and Oktoberfest or the Donna Schwab and website.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe you want to join the club and enjoy these
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: fun and games all year long. Cincy Donnell.com. It's all
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: right there, 55KRC. iheart. com on the website. Thank you, Joe Strack,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: for adding it. Might want to put a link to
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: where we get some shlivovets, too, while we're at it.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in. Thank you for the sausage.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: Thanks for having us.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, and I'll see you guys over the weekend.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to my wife about which day, but you'll
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: see me out there.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: 826.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: You know who you got to care from next? Jack
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: Windsor from the Howell Press Network. Got new developments in
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: that Ishmael Muhammad house thing. He's the talk station. Just
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: shy of 831 here, 55 KRC Detox Station. Good time
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: to be tuned into the 55 KRC Morning Show. And
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: a good website you should follow and bookmark, theohiopressnetwork.com. My guest,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: Jack Windsor, posts things over there. He closely follows a
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: lot of shenanigans, as I like to call it, going
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: on in the state of Ohio, generally speaking, and even
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: issues on national attention. Jack Windsor, good to see you
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: this morning. I'm glad I got you on Zoom, and
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining the 55 KRC Morning Show. Brian.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: I just say good to be here. Thanks for choosing me.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: Good to see you. And Joe, I apologize. My voice
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: is a little worn out today. I attended my first
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns game in probably several years last night. So
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: late night and a lot of vocal cords strained.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: I bet. Well, I just want to quickly interject some
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: sort of derogatory comment about $ 600 million of taxpayer money
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: going into the coffers of the Cleveland Browns privately owned
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: sports franchise. But we'll just let that one go. We
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: have the same problem here, as you well know, Jack.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 2: I just am absolutely against that concept. I find it offensive.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: Me too.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Pay for your own damn stadiums. Anyway, Jack Windsor, you
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: didn't call to talk about that. New developments. You're following
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: this Ismail Mohamed case, and he has some new developments.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Reset and remind my listeners, in the thumbnail sketch, what
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: got us to this point?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so there are so many moving pieces here. I
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: will go as far into the weeds on this as
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 5: you want because I promise you we're covering this at
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: a depth and breadth that no other outlet in the
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 5: country is.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: True.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 5: Columbus State Representative Ishmael Muhammad, he's an attorney, and he
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: told the elections board under oath that he signed his mortgage,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 5: his tax break form, and his ethics disclosure without reading
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: any of them. And the next morning.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: Isn't that unethical?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 5: Well, You would think it's an attorney, right?
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: If it's not unethical, it certainly is a bad look.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: Stupid?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very stupid. Monday at the Franklin County Board of Elections,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: the hearing ran nearly 10 hours. And Muhammad is a
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: Democrat representing House District 3, Columbus's North Side. His opponent
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 5: is Bernadine Kennedy-Kent. She challenged his residency. She's a former
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: Democrat state rep who beat him in 2018 in the
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 5: primary there. And she's now running on the Republican ticket.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: Muhammad testified he spends weekdays in an apartment in his district,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: weekends and holidays at his $ 587, 000 house on Heather Ridge
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: Drive in Delaware County. And he bought that house in
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 5: October 2025. Now, the board, interestingly, Brian, voted three to
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: one on Monday to let him keep his registration. And
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: how that all went down with the Board of Elections
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: chairman is an entirely separate can of worms that we
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: could spend a whole hour on. But just a couple
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: of things that Ishmael Muhammad has. He has an issue
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: because he said under oath that he made false statements
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: on a mortgage document. He said under oath that he
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 5: completed a tax form incorrectly. He said under oath that
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: he didn't list his investment property on his financial disclosure form,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: which is required of state lawmakers. He admitted all of
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 5: that under oath. I would expect that we're going to
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 5: see some additional investigations. But in addition to those things,
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 5: He still has $ 93, 000 in cash missing from his campaign
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: coffers that he can't pin down anywhere. We also have uncovered,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: he testified Monday under oath, that the investment property, that
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: the investment, I'm using air quotes, property that he has
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: in Delaware County that he intended to rent out. So
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: the question was followed up with, well, have you rented
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 5: it out? And he said, well, no, no, no, but
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: we have this plan and we could use like Airbnb, VRBO,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: was what I took from what he said. Well, we
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 5: did a little digging and unfortunately for Ishmael Muhammad, the
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 5: homeowners association where that home is located does not allow
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 5: that type of transient renting. So now he has that issue. Oh,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: and by the way, he has another LLC that I
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 5: think we've identified that is also not listed on his
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: financial disclosure form. So this guy has a truckload of issues.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 5: And as it stands right now, he's still a qualified
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: elector in his district. But I expect that we're going
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 5: to see some more on this case down the road.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I would expect it. Going back to the missing
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: 93 grand, was he asked questions about that? He said
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: that still hasn't been accounted for.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 7: So, no.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 5: And well, let me let me back up. It was
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 5: this was like 10 hours, his hearing. And so I
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 5: got through most of it. And then I had to
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 5: prepare for my radio show. And then I had to
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: go back and read reports and notes this weekend. I
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 5: plan to I know. I know I'm a partier. I'm
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 5: such a crazy guy. I'm going to actually listen to
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: the last few hours of that to make sure that
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 5: I take it all in. This is a case that
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 5: we've covered from the beginning, but I do not believe
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 5: he was asked about the $ 93, 000 as much only because
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 5: this hearing was more about his residency. Where do you live?
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 5: I do know that the Secretary of State's office is
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 5: still looking into many of his financial disclosure forms, but
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 5: I also have to report that they fined him $ 1, 200
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 5: in Tuesday, he testified on Monday. On Tuesday, it came
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: out that he was fined $ 1, 200, one, for not reporting
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 5: a loan properly, and then two, for not completing his
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: financial disclosure forms appropriately. But we're still trying to pin
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 5: down the $ 93, 000. That's another separate issue.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: Well, if the hammer to fully fall down on this
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: guy because of these obvious improprieties, what is the result
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: of that? What do you anticipate would happen to him?
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 5: Listen, I've got to be very careful here. But if
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 5: the Federal Bureau of Investigations is not looking into this
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: guy and looking into everything that we just talked about,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 5: then I think the 14th Amendment is a joke. And
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 5: I think you know where I'm going with that.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 9: This guy's a lawmaker.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: And Brian, if you and I did this, our asses
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 5: would be in prison.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 5: Let's make no joke about that. So I expect that
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: there's going to be a lot more scrutiny. At least
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 5: I hope there is.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: Is he a flight risk? Don't go away, Jack. I'm
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: just kidding.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 5: Well, you've got to take a break, but there's something
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 5: on that that I want to talk about.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. I opened a new can of worms. We'll
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: dive into it when we get back with Jack Windsor. Plus,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: we will talk about what's going on at Garver Farms
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: in Butler County. More with iopressnetwork.com's Jack Windsor. Don't go away. 55KRC. com.
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• 2:03:14
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• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: his website and listen to what he has to say
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: and follow what he is following, including I made that
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: sort of joking, at least I thought it was a
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: joking comment about Ismail Mohammed since you mentioned the feds
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: and federal investigators pursuing presumably federal crimes involved in these
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: underlying shenanigans. I joked, I said, well, is he a
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 2: flight risk? And there must've been something to that because
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 2: you apparently had some points to make on that. Jack Windsor,
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: please do.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 5: You have to be careful when you talk under oath, right?
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: Because that gets recorded and it can be used against
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 5: you later. One interesting bit of information that we uncovered
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: before the hearing that he was asked about, first of all,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 5: he was served a subpoena at his investment property. It's
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: not at his investment property, in my opinion, but that's
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 5: where he was served a subpoena. And the next day,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 5: I think it It was the next day. He changed
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 5: his address to another address in his district. So he
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 5: was asked, did you live in that first address the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: entirety up until a few days ago?
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 3: He said, well, yeah, I did.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 5: Okay. Well, subpoenaed records from American Electric Power show that
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 5: at that property he claims to live at, between January
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 5: and March of 2026, the power was out. And you go, well,
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 5: that's kind of a bad time, right? January. Well, if
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 5: you remember, Brian, it was nine degrees below zero in January.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: So apparently he lived there at nine below zero. And
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 5: the interesting part was when he was confronted with that fact,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: that set of facts at Monday's hearing, he said, oh,
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 5: I forgot. I was out of the country for a
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 5: while and then lived with my mom during that time.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 5: So technically it was my address, but I wasn't there
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 5: And so you go, oh, you were out of the country?
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 5: So to your question, is he a flight risk, we
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: kind of ask that tongue-in-cheek, but I don't know.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: Is he?
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, where'd he go? Back to Somalia? I would
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 5: say yes, he is a flight risk.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, under the circumstances, if he fled
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: to Somalia or anyplace else in the four corners of
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: the globe, it would relieve us of the obligation to
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: have to continue following up this and pursue criminal charges,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: saving the taxpayers a tremendous amount of money for what
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: seems to be an open and shut case.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 4: Jack?
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 5: I am going to shake my head and say I'm
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: stating my opinion, and I fully agree with you.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: All right. Go ahead, Ismael. Head on out. We'll just
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: call it. We'll stick a fork in it and call
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: it done. Pivoting over, what's going on at Garver Farms
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: in Butler County, Jack Windsor?
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 5: Man, we uncovered something else here, too. We didn't. It
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 5: was already percolating, right? The Garvers have farmed in Lemon
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: Township since 1926, and on March 17th, the county's Board
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 5: of Zoning Appeals voted 4-1 against in favor of the farm.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 5: There were some alleged infractions, right? And the Zoning Appeals
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 5: Board said, no, we side with the farm four to one.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: The county under the prosecutor appealed that Board of Zoning
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 5: Appeals decision. And Judge Greg Stevens in the Common Police
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 5: Court threw it out and said, the county doesn't have
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 5: standing in this matter. You can't just appeal when the
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 5: county that you represent has what you think is, you know,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 5: an adverse opinion. And well, you would think that would
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 5: be over. But on September 23rd, prosecutor Mike Moser filed again,
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 5: this time with the 12th District Court of Appeals. So
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 5: I had Elena Garver in my studio earlier this week
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 5: for about three segments, and she unpacked a lot of
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 5: information that has made me dive deep into this, similarly
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: to how I dove into the Ishmael Muhammad case. So
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 5: I'm working up an investigative report right now. And let
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 5: me just tell your listeners, I want to follow the
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 5: story where the story goes, but right now where the
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 5: story sits, I smell a rat.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 5: A big, fat, stinky rat with respect to how this
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 5: situation with Garver Farms is being handled.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: Well, do you know what Moser's problem is with Garver Farms?
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: What's the underlying zoning issue or the four-to-one decision based on?
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so... He said that they built a supermarket, basically,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 5: and that they don't have the appropriate paperwork. He compared
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 5: the family's explanation to why they don't have that to
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 5: a kid telling the teacher that the dog ate his homework.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 5: And what I've gathered is that the family went to
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 5: the powers that be and asked if they needed to
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: file paperwork or something different. And they said, well, no.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 5: And so I dug into that a little bit. I
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 5: talked to a couple of legal experts there in that area.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 5: And what they told me was there was really no
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: reason for them to file anything because they're considered agriculture.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 5: So that's kind of a open, closed, shut, whatever you
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: want to call type of case. But Mosher has said
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 5: that the public is misinformed, that he's going to file
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 5: a brief. that this is not personal, though I would
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 5: question that. We're starting to uncover some stuff there. And
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 5: he also said that it is a public safety matter.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 5: But I've asked him twice now what that specific public
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 5: safety issue is. Can you name it? Can you give
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 5: me the public records that show that that exists? And
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 5: he's not yet answered or turned over public records to
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: prove to me that that's an accurate statement.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: Well, so far, based upon what I know from you
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: just this morning on this topic, I'm with you, Jack Windsor.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: I smell a rat, too. We'll see what happens because
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 2: we'll wait to get the final analysis. We'll wait to
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: get the brief and see where he's coming from and
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: draw our conclusions after that. Jack Windsor from the Ohio
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: Press Network. Don't go away. It is 850 at 55K
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: or CD Talk Station. Happy Friday. Jack Windsor from the
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 2: Ohio Press Network. We always close out Friday's show with
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: a few segments with Jack. Interesting stuff it is. As always,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: get on and bookmark his page, OhioPressNetwork.com. You have polling
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: information we can talk about and actually believe, Jack Windsor,
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: or is this the same kind of stuff that we've
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: been reading over and over again, trying to convince Republicans that,
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: you know what, don't even bother. You're going to be completely,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: have your clock cleaned completely, so just stay home. Is
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: that really what these polls are all about, Jack, or
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: have you found something that we can actually say, you
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: know what, that looks pretty right?
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let me go right to the heart of it
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 5: instead of giving you the political answer. So a couple
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 5: of things are true. We're seeing polling similar to what
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 5: we've seen in 2018, 2022, and 2024. And if you're
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 5: a Republican, you remember in the fall, the sky's falling, right?
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 5: DeWine trailed Cordray in 18. In 22, J.D. Vance trailed
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 5: Tim Ryan. In 24, Bernie Marino trailed Sherrod Brown. And
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 5: in all of those instances, Republicans won. And so these
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 5: polls that we see traditionally are somewhere between 6% and 9% wrong,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: meaning they lean toward the Democrat. Here's the one caveat
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 5: I'm always careful about, though. If the tide does turn,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 5: this is what it would look like, right? So even
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 5: though history tells us, in this case, it looks like
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 5: Brown is up 51 to 43 over Husted. and acting
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 5: up over Ramaswamy 50 to 44, if the tide was turning,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 5: that's how they would look. But like I said, you
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 5: look back over history and you go, that's kind of
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 5: within that band where we've seen this movie before, right?
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 5: But I think what we have to really be careful
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 5: of is look at each of those candidates in each
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 5: of those races. And I'll say it this way and
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 5: then ask any questions that you want. I think the
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 5: Sherrod Brown, John Husted race is wholly different than the
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 5: Vivek Ramaswamy-Amy Acton race for a couple of reasons. Number one,
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 5: Sherrod Brown has one of the most durable brands in
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 5: Ohio politics.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: True.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 5: Love him, hate him. He gets people to turn out
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 5: and he gets a lot of votes. That puts John
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: Husted in a pickle. There are some Republicans that are
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 5: still upset with John Husted because he did not disconnect
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 5: his wagon from Mike DeWine during COVID. And then, of course,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: the Democrats down the stretch here are going to talk
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 5: a lot about House Bill 6, so on and so forth. Now,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 5: I think that in my humble opinion, John Husted's in
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 5: a tougher position than Vivek Ramaswamy for a couple of reasons.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 5: Vivek has money. He's going to spend it and he's
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 5: going to do everything that he can to make sure
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 5: that he wins that office. He also has a competitor
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 5: who has a slew of personal issues. And by the way,
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 5: we have experience with her, not as an elected official,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 5: but as an incompetent doctor who partially led Ohio's COVID response.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 5: So I look at Vivek's race And I say he's
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 5: probably in a better position. But then I also have
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 5: to caveat that with he's not a Christian. He has
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 5: a funny last name. He has brown skin. And, you know,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: in some circles in the Republican Party, that tamps down turnout.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're the ones I'm pissed off at, Jack.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: Every time I hear that, I'm like, it's 2026. You
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: got a guy that if he was a white guy
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: and he had a name like that. Jack Windsor, then
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: you'd be all over him. Oh my God, this is
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: the greatest thing. He's straight out of central casting. Okay,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: because he's named Vivek Ramaswamy because he's Hindu, that makes him.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: Jack, you'd hit a nerve with that one, man. I've
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: been hearing that from people and I just want to
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: punch him in the face metaphorically.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: No, I'm with you. I can't tell you how many
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 5: times I hear, this one really makes me mad. Oh,
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 5: he's an anchor baby and he's, you know, all the
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 5: Gripers love to complain about his ethnicity. It's gross. It's racist.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 5: I don't like it. But then once you get out
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 5: of the woods there, then he gets clobbered over the
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 5: head with, well, he's a billionaire. I look at that.
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  Speaker 5: So I want to say this explicitly. It's okay to
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 5: like Vivek Ramaswamy. It's okay to like success. Because frankly,
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 5: when I look at my kids, I want them to succeed.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 5: I don't want them to be failures. I don't want
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 5: them to be addicted to pills and alcohol. I want
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 5: them to be good human beings who are productive. So
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 5: to me, I look at this and I go, it's
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 5: a clear winner in my book. This is my opinion.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 5: But I'm not sure. Ohioans are seeing that at the
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 5: scale that you and I would like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't have to demonize the man because
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: he is so successful. Listen, first off, I know you
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: want your children to be as successful as Vivek Ramaswamy.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: Get them a good education. Let them go into free society.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: They may be able to accomplish that. But if they're
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: like me, you can measure success a different way and
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: be thankful that there's a guy like Ramaswamy employing people
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: like me in some capacity as a W-2 employee.
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  Speaker 11: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm not an entrepreneurial-minded person. But you know what?
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to put in a hard day's work. I'm
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: willing to earn an income. without having started a business.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: This is what makes the world go around. So embrace
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: Vivek Ramasamy and also be thankful that he's not going
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: to office to get rich. He's already done that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I had a conversation with him last week
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 5: and I have an event where he's going to be
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 5: featured tonight. And I said, you know, one of the
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 5: things that I want you to be prepared to answer
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 5: Vivek is why, why are you doing this? Because Brian,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 5: if I were his age and a billionaire, I quit.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 5: Go get a yacht and chill for a while.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's got to be something to this well beyond.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 5: I just want to use the state and its people
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 5: to get wealthier. I don't think it's that.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: No, he loves he loves Ohio. He loves his upbringing.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: He loves the city of Cincinnati. He's willing to give back.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: There are people like him who are driven to work
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: and prosper and do well. And he's done so well
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: for himself. He's sharing the love with everybody else. I
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: think it's awesome. Jack, I find no problem at all
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: with that man, and I just really scratch my head
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: and wonder how in God's name even a skewed pole
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: could have Amy acting ahead.